>Kubo has lost his touch
Are there any retards that think that?
>Bleach
>not losing its touch years ago
I only wish he would at least have his assistants add in some gradient backgrounds. To be quiet honest, despite the memes. His art, and character designs are still really stylish.
>>138828290
He's just too slow.
Remember the chapter where Ichigo had that beautiful arabic-looking clothing and started heading towards Soul society? That was in fall 2013.
It needs to get a second anime.
>>138828290
>All those watermarks
>kubo had a touch
?
>>138828939
>Implying Soul Society wasn't the best application of shonenshit formula, ever
>>138828436
It's never been better
I don't read it in months. Why Aizen is wearing Gurren-Lagann googles?
>>138830996
Every arc Kubo seems to be introducing a variation of Aizen.
>>138828290
>All of bleach is literally just school-yard fights of "Oh yeah well I do this!"
>Plot is literally fight small guys to fight the big bad guy every single arc
>Shamalayana tier twists
>Boring protag and mostly uninteresting characters
>Literally only interesting part about it is the magical swords
>"but the art is good!"
People are actually this retarded.
>>138828290
That happened years ago.
>>138829074
>best application of shonenshit formula
>best application
What the hell does this even mean?
>>138831866
>implying art isn't the most important part of a manga
If you want to read, read a fucking book. The truth is you don't have to attention span to do so.
>Hitsugaya cracking lame jokes
>Byakuya sarcasm
>Kepachi being Kenpachi
Best buddy cop movie 2016
>>138832654
What he is implying is that Bleach's art isn't that good, which he is right about.
>>138832768
Completely idiotic. Name one shonen with better art, aside from Jojo.
>inb4 one piss
I'm ready to laugh
>>138834610
Naruto, Fairy Tail.
>>138834610
One Punch Man, by Murata. Actually, most manga drawn by him are good and we can feel the action.
And One Piss's art is better than Bleach, this is true.
>>138834610
BNHA and OPM both have better art. One Piece too.
>>138834721
>>138834726
>One Punch meme
The author has no sense of dynamism, perspective or presentation.
He just copy pastes random 3D computer generated crap in his work doing the typical pleb mistake of thinking more details means better art.
>>138834959
Aren't you the pleb for thinking that Kubo's art is good when the fights and action in Bleach actually feel bland and lacking any substance?
>>138834721
>>138834726
>wan piss
Protip : Does your manga only look good in color?
If yes, then your manga a shit.
Oda should be drawing western comics. His lines are fucking messy and he has no sense of clarity (he used to be better at it actually).
Bleach makes perfect use of inking and black and white. This is a true manga.
>>138834610
FMA, Nanatsu no Taizai and these >>138834721 >>138834726
>>138834693
Nah I'd say Fairy tail and late Naruto have worse art than Bleach right now.
>>138834693
>Bait.jpg
>>138835054
i'm pretty sure he's talking about the art not fights
>>138834610
Hunter x Hunter;^)
>>138835191
Bleach's art only LOOKS good, it's actually not good. In any fighting shounen or action filled manga, the readers should feel the emotion during the fights, which Bleach fails to provide.
>>138835366
>muh emotions
Since when did manbabbies start thinking all fights are infused with emotions? Is this the hormones in the water?
Heck a good fighter is supposed to be cool headed and focused. Not spewing his edge and angst all over the place.
lot of fights have just become a fucking gauntlet where you're just beating up bad guys to get to the boss. It's not fun watching characters fight villains that are only fighting because "I'm so loyal to muh emperor"
At least in SS arc fights had an actual impact on the dynamic of multiple characters
also kubo's art is one of the best but he's fucking lazy and doesn't go all out
>>138828290
Kubo's dialogue writing is like, transcendentally bad. It's so bad that you almost become convinced that it's good. Like you're reading it and thinking "There's no way someone wrote this, right? Nobody wrote this dialogue and said 'yes, this is good. This is how people talk.' " But there it is, staring at you, on a blank background. And then you start to think "Yes. Yes OK. This is Fine." And that's how you read Bleach.
>>138835737
>It's not fun watching characters fight villains that are only fighting because "I'm so loyal to muh emperor"
How can you say that when the current fight is the exact opposite?
>>138835850
I'm sure at least some of the problem is mangastream. I'm not saying his dialogue is good, though, but some of it is probably lost in translation.
>>138835511
>Heck a good fighter is supposed to be cool headed and focused. Not spewing his edge and angst all over the place.
Bleach is filled with all this shit though.
>>138836060
Such as? Every time someone starts getting flashbacky and emotional he starts getting raped.
Some dick around, taunt, talk and shit but that's not emotions.
Ichigo has nakama power-up tho, so yeah I guess that counts.
>>138835863
I originally was going to write about why Askin was so great because he wasn't a loyal 'muh emperor' follower but it got too long. He is great and I wish the rest had more depth in their personality like him
>>138835511
look man
bleach is shit
and kubo or whatever his name is.. he is only good as an illustrator
is not a good mangaka nor a good artist
and you are shit to
>>138836308
lol, japs cant make a good story for shit
>>138836303
He's the starrk of this arc.
Last 2 arcs most underlings actually mistrusted their overlord. See Ginjo or the arrencars. Loyalty is the defining factor of the sternritters. At least it's explained by the fact that their power stems from Bach and that the guy is omnipotent too.
Japanese writers are just inferior to European/North American artist. I don't know why people take manga seriously. The great majority are terribly written like Bleach, One Piece, Boku no Hero, Tokyo Ghoul, Fairy Tail, Naruto etc.
I only read them for entertainment. Read some western comics for an actual story guys. Stop bitching about manga which is clearly made for kids and teens.
>>138836773
>I only read them for entertainment
you read western comics for enterainment too dumbass. also western comic is shit too
>>138836773
You've never read the 50c villain of the week crappy marvel chain produced comics?
You've never read the ''2 lines and we're done'' euroshit comics?
Or ''I use a computer to generate random fantasy shapes and call it a day''?
>>138836773
Meh.
You find masterpiece like Kamigami no itadaki of Jiro Taniguchi and teen things
Just like in the west you find the sandman and those shitty comics made by marvel and dc
(some of them are good, just joking around)
Seems like people got really offended by my comment. I kean, it's only the truth you overly sensitive fuckers.
Look at the people calling the shitty One Piece writer "Goda" every week. That just shows how low the standards are for manga. A person who makes a very slow, repetitive, illogical manga is referred to as a God. It's pathetic, just like you faggots getting butthurt. If One Piece was put into Marvel or DC, it would be the worst comic there. Compare that shit to Batman, The Incredible Hulk, Wolverine, etc. It's fucking shit. Raise your standards people.
>>138837767
>people calling oda a god
Where? i haven't seen this
>>138828290
Yhwach damn it OP. Too soon for me. I will miss that glorious bastard
>>138837767
>f One Piece was put into Marvel or DC, it would be the best comic there
Only if Oda is the one who writes it because the reason cape comics are shit is because of the different authors like Bendis and Slott who ruin the characters.
>>138837767
Meh again men
While OP is a product that has an ''aurea mediocritas'' feeling to it and by that i mean that
he does not enough to be a masterpiece but enough to be good consistently...
... the one you mentioned have both very good stories and really bad ones
About standards if you are a fan of comics you could find really better examples than what you cited both from american ones and european ones
A thing about batman
They really abused and ruined him
He was a really nice character that fought for justice against crazy but human enemies
and now he goes toe to toe against eldritch abominations because of his ''preparation times''
In the end, manga and comics, just like many other things are just for kids
And its alright like that
>>138837767
I've only seen "Goda" used by obvious trolls, and people criticizing the fanbase.Also nothing is more repetitive than mainstream cape comics.
Naruto was dead for a long while and it finally finished. I don't read Bleach but I know it needs to end.
>>138838030
Both Naruto and Bleach's final arcs took up more than a quarter of their series.
>>138837767
Yeah, lets compare it with Batgod, James "I am shoved in every story ever" Howlett, the recent FemThor stories.
Neither medium is high art most of the time. People read those to have fun. And more often than not sunk cost fallacy.
Bleach is mostly fun for the crazy asspulling that can be construed as having received foreshadowing years before. It is not, and never will be as good as the Soul Society arc, let alone quality writing.
But meanwhile, a Fairy Tail villain was actually defeated by the power of fanservice and people are creaming their pants.
>>138838030
Butthurt narutofag is mad that Bleach is still going and better than that dead orange ninja bitch.
>tfw Bleach is ending
>>138838239
-Ten chapters fighting Quincy-thor
-Fifteen chapters fighting Haschwald
-Thirty chapters fighting Ywach
-One chapter of closure.
>>138838239
after bleach is done i'm gonna stop watching anime and stop reading
Look here you fucking pussies... I'm talking about the original writers of the comics. I know they are written by different people. I'm talking about the ORIGINAL. And I only picked mainstream because I know you manga weeaboo fags wouldn't know any other real comic.
Look at Avatar The Last Airbender (the comic, not movie. That shit was an abomination), it was inspired by manga but it's better than the majority. Hell, even the cartoon, watch it. It actually has character development, a deep story and LOGIC. Something most manga lack.
The thing is: Western writers know what western audiences cherish in a story. They can appeal to everyone around the world as well. Japanese audience only cares about tits, waifus, and shit stories. Their standards are low. Just like you bitch asses defending it. What's looked at as deep for manga standards? Tokyo Ghoul Re? Give me a fucking break. You kids don't know shit, and that's why I have this middle finger for you bitch ass pricks.
>>138838370
You forgot fifty chapters fighting Aizen
>>138838596
Oh yes, let us talk about Superman the asshole, Batman killing people left and right and giving no fuck,Captain MarvelShazam solving everything through the power of being right.gr8 b8 m8; 8/8
>>138838596
you still trying?
>Look at Avatar The Last Airbender (the comic, not movie. That shit was an abomination), it was inspired by manga but it's better than the majority
I know Bleach is shit but your bait is prety pathetic.
>>138838816
>Bleach is shit
fite me cunt
>>138836773
>I only read them for entertainment
Pssst, here's something you need to remember:Western Comics are also read for entertainment and there's plenty of shit in the western market too
Why do you keep making these threads? Some people just don't like Bleach, and regardless of their reasons there's just no point in bitching about it.
>>138838816
Watch the show faggot.
>>138838805
Your name is fucking Kevin. Lmao. Get lost dickboy.
when bleach ends, I'll drink myself to a coma and forget it all
>can't_deal_with_it.gif
>>138838239
I will be finally done with Shonen Jump once Bleach ends, so my feelings are going to be nothing but happiness.
>>138839071
Finally someone got trigger by my name
>>138839109
>implying Bleach will end in your lifetime.
>>138839071
If I wanted to watch/read something, propose me something that's not shit, like The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa, instead of Avatar.
>>138839071
Are you a virgin?...
>>138839147
if Narudo can end bleach can
>>138839289
>Kubo dies
>never finished
Alternatively
>Bleach ends in a cliffhanger
>>138839289
But now we have Boruto. Which is going to be even worse.
Narudo will never end.Though I am done with it.
>>138839331
>>138839375
Stop talking senpai
>>138839147
It will.
Unlike Oda, Kubo must have a point in which he's going to become sick of writing the same shit.What if he regrets saying back then that Bleach had another 10 years and he's just going with his glacial pacing on purpose until those 10 years pass?
>>138839456
Oda does not have the option to stop until Japan gets sick of him. Which is to say, never ever.Oda is dead.
And Kubo is going at a glacial pace. Look at how long this arc has gone for.
Plus, the volume sales are still good enough for him to milk it fo years to come.
>>138835172
This is a shit manga
Fixed
The entire appeal of Bleach is in it's character designs at this point. Not even the "main" cast of humans though, they're incredibly bland and uninteresting.
Actively defending Kubo's storytelling and pacing is pure ignorance or delusion.
Look, I'll always have a connection with the series because it was one of the first anime/manga that I really got into when I was younger. There are panels and songs ingrained in my memory.
But Bleach is a mess and a waste of potential and it's been this way for a long time.
>>138840323
Everything you said matters because Bleach is awesome and you're wrong. Your comment is basically saying the sky is yellow. We all know it's not true so we can't take you seriously. Bleach is, in fact, a great manga that will go down in history. Saying it sucks is factually inaccurate and ignorant.
>>138840323
>>138840701
>>138840701
doesn't matter*
My B
>>138840701
5/10 trolling.
Wan Piss will go down as the new phenomenon after Dragon Ball.
Narudo might leave some traces behind. Depending on how well Burrito does.
But Bleach never will.
>>138828290
Whatever touch there was, it's been gone for years
Bleach has been bad for a long time, this last fight with yourich vs askin just shows how bad it is.
I mean, her cat form would not work against anyone besides Askin in the whole universe, kubo always asspuled powers to write himself out of a bad fight, but this is on a new level, he is not even trying to write interesting fights anymore.
Ichigo himself, the main character of the story, is not more than a husk of who he was, he is just a plot device for kubo to asspull new powers.
And now we cant even enjoy the bleach threads because the shipping faggotry is insufferable, I really wish kubo would kill Ichigo so shipper faggots would fuck off.
>>138840913
You're basically saying dogs fly. It's, once again, a factual lie that no one can take seriously.
>>138834726
memetaku detected
>>138829933
>gets dubs
>>138841426
10/10
>attacking the wan piss boogeyman because someone pointed out that Bleach isn't good
Sure is Pork Wrangler in here.
>>138841339
At most, Bleach will be peripheral history to the other Big 3 of that era. That's it.
