pina was raped
>>138802917
How much ahead is the anime to the manga?
I'm going to marry Rory.
I bet that cloth is rough and dirty.
>>138803003
In manga chapter to anime conversion, about 8-12 chapters.
So why havent china or us invaded yet to take their resources.
>>138803040
Why do they even give her a cloth?
>>138803039
I don't think so m80
![[HorribleSubs] GATE - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.55_[2016.01.30_01.30.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3i8xznG.jpg "[HorribleSubs] GATE - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.55_[2016.01.30_01.30.40].jpg")
I want Kuribayashi to beat me up
>>138802972
Pina raped the door
That's doorjectification
>>138803077
So she can still feel shame when they rip it off every night.
>>138803065
Japan killed them all.
>>138802917
Welcome to my world
Picked up.
>>138803100
surely a thick layer of dried semen that is washed off with water thrown from buckets would serve the same purpose?
>>138803065
Because China can't find their way to Japan through all the smog, and President Trump squandered the entirety of the US defense budget by building a massive wall between the US and Mexico.
>>138803100
That's genius.
>>138803188
What happened to Russia
So
Do you think Pina was raped
Because let's be honest, she should have been at least once.
>>138803233
yes
>>138803077
Those cloths are something the anime does. In the manga they aren't there. On the other hand, in the manga she isn't thrown in jail.
>>138803225
Still dicking around in the Middle East? Idk
>>138803152
And she actually was raped and beated up to no end, Pina is just a pussy.
>>138803233
I guess. I mean wtf is so terrifying about that room?
>>138803233
no, that would be harming a waifu
EVERY LN AUTHOR IN THE WORLD KNOWS that when a Waifu gets harmed, sales fall through the fucking floor.
see: Sacred Blacksmith
>>138803263
The manga isn't even that far dingus
>>138803233
I know I would have.
>>138803280
It's probably more to do with the fact that she's a princess and went from having the highest political authority to that of a slave in less than a day.
>>138803060
Thanks
>>138803267
Talking about the middle east, does this mean they were right? In the GATE universe, it seems like you will get 72 virgins if you die for the good.
>>138803280
BL withdrawal. It's a terrible thing.
I don't wanna watch this show if there's no Yao.
>>138803296
But what about Berserk then?
Casca not a waifu?
>>138803274
On the plus side, the manga-ka doesn't put those slave clothes on the females, so we finally get a nice shot of that firecrotch
>>138803420
Beserk not a harem series
Why is Panache such a shit?
>>138803233
She's probably schlicked more than once to the thought of it so w/e
>>138803488
Blinded by love
Which is a shame because she was best girl
>>138803420
Well one Berserk isn't an LN.
Also the atmosphere in Berserk makes it completely obvious that horrid shit will go down to the point that if you complain about a girl getting harmed, everybody will know you're a fucking idiot
>>138803472
Sacred Blacksmith not either
>>138803488
Because she let crazy stick his dick in.
>>138803296
More examples please.
Post more sexy Piña.
>>138803280
I would imagine being imprisoned is not very fun. I'd also imagine being imprisoned while hearing the slaughter of your people is even less fun.
>>138803512
Best girls don't sell out their best friends to be tortured and/or murdered.
>>138802917
I was going to watch this series, but are girls getting just raped all the time? Do they get rescued at least?
Punished Pina when?
>>138803590
Do you want them to get rescued?
>>138803660
Yes!
>tfw you will never be held by a strong japanese soldier
>>138803590there's only a couple who ever really get raped, they're all rescued by nippon stronk
![[HorribleSubs] GATE - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.55_[2016.01.30_01.28.47].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ySAdIVX.jpg "[HorribleSubs] GATE - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.55_[2016.01.30_01.28.47].jpg")
>>138803682
Then The Bear Jap has you covered.
>>138803606
>Punished Pina when?
>Bozees, I'm already a demon
>Princess Pina-sama, you where only in that room for a few hours.
>>138803696
series sounds based
picked up
>>138803693
>You will never rescue a cute tomboy and marry her
>>138803693
The guy looks like he's in his 40s. Jesus.
As much as I would like to see JMSDF be true for the second season, it's still not confirmed.
>had to sit through an entire shitty season for some OPERATOR action
>it was barely worth it
>>138803758
And? He's a strong, dependable man.
![[HorribleSubs] GATE - 23 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.52_[2016.03.18_21.57.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tXVDAa3.jpg "[HorribleSubs] GATE - 23 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.52_[2016.03.18_21.57.45].jpg")
>>138803693
>>138803801
The Lelei arc was pretty disappointing. I wish they at least had the rest of Itami's squad there, because his harem bores me.
>>138802917
DOUJINS WHEN
>tfw I'll never get to operate in fantasyland
>>138803830
>>138803801
The anime skips a ton of shit just so you know. This episode felt so rushed for a reason.
>>138803853
NOW
http://exhentai.org/g/896376/4736c498df/
http://exhentai.org/g/880857/d8f19e25d1/
>>138803039
You're not welcome here, Hardy
>>138803696
don't forget the villagers that get ambushed by bandits after the first battle at the gate. At least in the manga anyways, Rory ends up making a guy dig the raped to death women graves with his bare hands.
>>138803152
wow anime for lil kids.
>>138803726
THE SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS NEVER DIEEEEEEEEE
CAN'T WASH THIS BLOOOOOOOOOOOOD OFF OUR HAAAAAAAAAAAAANDS
>>138803911
Why is Rory such a little bitch? He did nothing wrong.
>>138803958
>Why is Rory such a little bitch?
because she's 900+ years old.
kuri
>>138804005
send it back
>>138803958
she explains it plainly to him in the manga, because he made a choice to be part of the bandits when he could have chosen to do anything else.
Sure being a farmer or trying to pick up a trade, or even begging would be really rough, but he had a choice, and he made his.
>>138803933
They teach history to lil kids. This is just another variation of history.
>>138803713
How does she feel about not getting a single kill today? She's basically Trombley from Generation Kill without the psycho tendencies.
>>138804110
I'm sure she got a couple on the way out or something.
>>138803801
LNfags, how operator does Itami get next episode?
>>138804110
Damn.
Just look how beautiful that mountain is.
>>138804110
She's going to capture herself a notRoman soldier and ride him until her bloodlust is sated.
>>138803888
Those aren't Pina getting dicked, what the fuck
>>138804147
>Boom headshot
>Boom headshot
>oh baby a triple
>JSDF runs back to salvage the situation Itami fucked up
>they don't punish him again because he consequently improved relations between the new Empire and Japan
>>138802917
wait...the fujoshit got raped?
how?
>>138804267
read the manga
>>138803888
You will never have a Castanic waifu
![[HorribleSubs] GATE - 16 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.38_[2016.03.18_22.12.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9ix60lY.jpg "[HorribleSubs] GATE - 16 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.38_[2016.03.18_22.12.42].jpg")
So isn't there supposed to be an entire subplot about a budding romance between pic related and Bunny Hitler?
>>138804303
just wait and see.
>>138804303
There is, but it looks like it's getting ignored.
>>138804303
yeah in the LN it goes into detail about a lot of relationships that otherwise are overlooked because of anime time constraints
>>138804356
Doesn't the Bozes nightcrawling relationship take up like a whole section? I want that.
>>138803756
why even bother anymore
>>138803888
sauce: http://lonefirewarrior.deviantart.com/art/Fantasy-Ops-455111156
![[Ai-dle] Lady Jewelpet - 36v2 [720p] [13EDBC78].mkv_snapshot_08.36_[2014.12.31_21.41.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/avAPuOK.jpg "[Ai-dle] Lady Jewelpet - 36v2 [720p] [13EDBC78].mkv_snapshot_08.36_[2014.12.31_21.41.41].jpg")
>>138803756
Stop it, it hurts
It hurts that Tomboys are already the best
>>138804374
yes, and she is basically already pregnant (early stage) timewise by where the anime is in the story.
>>138804264
>JSDF runs back to salvage the situation Itami fucked up
what?
>>138804339
Or maybe it's just a flashback near the end.
>>138804437
they probabaly use it as an excuse to go back and help
>>138804427
>No pregger bozes
WHY DOES THE ANIME EVEN EXIST?
>>138804437
Well when your mission was ostensibly to retrieve civilians from the Jade Palace, rather than install the pro-peace faction into power, only to have Itami suddenly go Liam Neeson in the middle of the capital to rescue the leader of the pro-peace faction, they can't really operate under that pretense anymore.
>>138804291
No I wont!
>>138804509
they already fucked it up by forgetting the most important person to peace anyways, Pina. If they were to ever get a stable regime in place, they'd need her to succeed the throne regardless, since everyone else has proven...uncooperative
>>138804574
It all works out in the end. Cooperation is only mildly needed.
>>138803233
It seems likely that the Three Noble Pricks would have done her at some point.
Doujin when.
I don't have a pic for it but,
has anyone noticed how Itami will point guns at people who have never seen guns, and they will know its SUPER deadly.
>>138804437
>>138804465
The mission was always just to retrieve the delegates and the pro peace senators as well as the refugees caught in the wildfire.
Diet orders were not to touch the figureheads.
You can imagine what Itami's doing.
Itami is a valuable asset to the JSDF.
They work overtime to bring him back.
>>138803310
He meant for imprisoned/enslaved women, genius.
>>138804509
>>138804574
>>138804660
Pina just wants to be a BL mangaka but the empire wont let her
>>138804834
anime skips a bunch of little stuff. Manga covers that subject a bit better.
Is JSDF even worth it?
Sure, it's OPERATOR at certain times, but isn't it pretty much JSDF steamrolling medieval times, breaking pretty much every military logic, and getting away with it?
How the fuck did Pina get raped anyway? She is a princess of the empire, isn't there a limit to what you can do to a fucking princess unless the god damn empire falls?
>>138805041
Zorzal initiated the Patriot Act basically, also Pina is a child of a concubine and like 9th in succession (under normal circumstance, not including political strengths).
>>138804868
manga skips a lot of the original novel too.
the attack in ginza lasted for 7 days and got 100000 plus casualties because the liberals are arguing "romans dindu nuthin". the american troops are raring to go but the liberals stopped them because they are scared of american troops on capital will be bad for elections and stuff.
so yes, it is sad that the author was labeled jingonistic hard core right wing, when the novels are more "our government sucks bad when dealing with a military situation"
>>138805041
JSDF is barely steamrolling. They are too janky to really get the job done quick enough.
>>138805154
>lasted for 7 days
Except that situation is so entirely ridiculous that it would find a better place in a satire novel.
>>138805154
>got 100000 plus casualties
What
>>138804197
Best death ever
He wants to eat her beef curtains.
>>138805154
I don't remember that particular detail. Did they cut that from the WN when they edited the LN or did I just forget?
>>138805198
>>138805198
it is believable. the police was called in first and basically got some good, but they were also forced back to the imperial palace. it was in the third day when the trebuchets got inside tokyo and started attacking the imperial palace.
>>138805231
Civilian casualties from a big invasion
>>138805231
the final numbers are 192000 jap civies dead, which are cosistent between the original novel, LN manga.
but the original novel, stated that if Japan acted faster, it would be less than 100000
>>138803726
>EVERY LN AUTHOR IN THE WORLD KNOWS that when a Waifu gets harmed, sales fall through the fucking floor.
>see: Sacred Blacksmith
days actually, Itami arrived when JSDF rescued the nobles and extracted a few days ago
>>138805421
>allowing a barbarian horde to rampage unchecked in the middle of Tokyo for a whole fucking week because muh bureaucratic inefficiency
No, that's patently ridiculous. Now I could believe that there would be 100K+ casualties in a span of several hours, seeing as Tokyo is very densely populated, and the notRomans came in with a very large force, but even the stupidest of politicians wouldn't sit on their asses while people are openly being slaughtered in the streets, even those evil librulz.
Slaughering all of the imperial soldiers felt wrong. They're no real threat and could easily be forced to surrender or subdued with non-lethal measures. Every single one of them is a son, brother, father or husband and they just shoot them and stab them in the neck. Doesn't fit the mood at all.
>>138805478
>192000 jap civies dead
>In 7 days
Is that even possible with medieval tech? That's killing 20 people in 1 min including sleeping time, and even with fucking orcs and superior imperial spear formation going around, I do not see how they can just kill pretty much everything in the area without people escaping the area or running out of people to kill.
>>138805361
who doesn't though
>>138805198
Not so much since they have the 9th article.
I`m not expert enough to explain in details.
But the govern need to approve a law for every war situation like that notRomans one.
And the law should be made in order to not go against 9th article.
Like "you can only attack in same firepower to what enemy have".
Also all jieitai shit is made under a "positive list" principle (You can do this, this and this but nothing else.)
If you watched patlabor 2 the movie you will understand how fucked up it is. (I don`t know how it was translated into english.)
>>138805593
Japan is a home to one of the craziest politicians ever. You know the girl grilled Rory, Tuka and Leilei? She is based on a real taiwanese-japanese politician who wants JSDF and JMSDF dismantled because she believes that US will come to rescue when China is knocking on Japan soil.
and that is still on the lowest end of the liberal crazy politicians.
>>138805660
Have you read some of the GATE fanfic on fanfic.net? There's several ones where like 100k+ imperial soldiers charge at Italica in some zombie rampage and they get taken out by the 'muricans
>>138805593
do you not understand politics? liberals would oppose the cure to cancer if the right tried to introduce it
>>138805684
Didn't they send 100,000 soldiers through the gate? And "casualties" doesn't mean "killed."
>>138803383
>Talking about the middle east, does this mean they were right? In the GATE universe, it seems like you will get 72 virgins if you die for the good.
In the GATE universe most gods don't actually fight each other. Ironically most of the religious wars are started by human priests and have nothing to do with their gods.
>>138803888
is this image from some game?
>>138805731
A lot of us are you know, reasonable. And more willing to change our opinion on average than "the right".
And we'd probably oppose it because someone was selling it at an extortionate, profiteering rate when really, something like that ought to be like the polio vaccine.
I want more Rory and Lelei.
>>138804842
>The mission was always just to retrieve the delegates and the pro peace senators as well as the refugees caught in the wildfire.
>Diet orders were not to touch the figureheads.
>You can imagine what Itami's doing.
This would get him court martial-ed, wouldn't it?
>>138805893
I don't think he's even been in contact with his superiors.
I stopped watching Gate S2 but if Pina gets raped I'm picking it back up.
>>138805893
>This would get him court martial-ed, wouldn't it?
Well he wasn't officially on duty, he is on resource prospecting. So he didn't disobey orders because he wasn't given any order.
>>138805478
I just checked the LN and I cannot find it. The text strongly suggests that after Itami's rescue (which happened the very same day) the worst was over.
>>138805865
>>138805865
>And we'd probably oppose it because someone was selling it at an extortionate, profiteering rate when really, something like that ought to be like the polio vaccine.
see >>138805714
Japan is home to crazy politicians. The UNICEF chief there is embezzling money on the open and admitting it and they still havent locked her up
>>138805714
But I don't see the military waiting for political approval. Invasion force in the capitol, you assume communications are compromised and deploy as fast as you can get people on base and kitted.
>>138804291
which chapter and page?
>>138805700
If an attack of that scale happened in the middle of a major city, the army (or JDF) would likely move on its own, or with permission from the Prime Minister.
Besides, the 9th article is for international disputes.
>>138805714
Also there are a lot of panda huggers/both korea hugger/idiots in japanese politicians.
Mostly on Japanese Democratic Party. (There are also an Japanese Comunist Party too.)
Like this brainless parrot one, the tin can and Noda the Pond loach.
That parrot guy is as idiot as our fucking Dilma.
>>138805122
>that feel when Based Rand killed the Patriot Act and wasn't rewarded with POTUS for his deed
I hope this country burns in Hell.
>>138803274
chapter?
>>138805865
How naive. The liberals are now the new fascists, who violently condemn anyone who doesn't share their opinions.
>>138806016
>>...My, my JSDF
>It's moving on its own~
>>138806003
>>138806016
it was treated as a major crime first so the police was called in
the police was deployed first but still overwhelmed and had to retreat to the imperial palace
>>138806125
Yes, until any news crew in a helicopter could see the sheer scale of what was going on, at which point the military would almost certainly intervene.
>>138802917
Honestly, this season should've had far more nippon strong and less dragon and piper crap.
>>138803888
Oh boy, is that fucking Anduril I see there?
>>138806186
YAMATO DAMASHII requires a budget, but I agree.
>>138805660
>doesn't fit the mood
What I find funny is that someone was calling me a warcriminal because my solution to defeating empire would involve a salvo a day of White Phosphorous in the 'rich' districts until they surrendered.
The Gaza Bank strategy
>>138805871
I pray those Light Novel translations start back up. If Episode 24 is it for the anime, then we're stuck with the manga, which I like but God it's going at a snail's pace.
>>138806296
Who's in the very back?
>>138805154
>the attack in ginza lasted for 7 days and got 100000 plus casualties because the liberals are arguing "romans dindu nuthin". the american troops are raring to go but the liberals stopped them because they are scared of american troops on capital will be bad for elections and stuff.
I read the spoilers and didn't see this anywhere.
>>138806176
i think you are applying your country's politics to Japan. Japan is home to literal crazies that got job as politicians.
they have politicians who want to dismantle JSDF and JMSDF, the have crazies embezzling money in the open.
>>138806125
A fucking invasion force 100,000 strong drops itself in the capitol and everyone considers it a police matter!? That's retarded.
Who controls the Japanese military? The US is very specific about the president being commander in chief, but I don't know how elevens do civilian control.
Was pina raped in the manga version of her imprisonment?
>>138806276
That's because you're an idiot who can't think ahead. You think there won't be a hundred rich dudes now itching to fund an insurgency because they saw their kid melt from the phosphorus?
>>138806328
By that same token, Japanese politics tend to skew much further right than American politics. And just because one MP is a retard doesn't mean that they control the entire government.
>>138805998
>checked the LN
In the manga, the imperial army gets moved down with machine pistols immediately after Itami's rescue.
It is possible that this 7 days, 200k shit was in the WN, the author is stupid enough, but I think anon just made it up.
>>138806125
>>138805154
So I went and read that part of the novel, translated of course, and you are absolutely full of shit.
Now, that's a good thought experiment, would the crazy liberals stop a military campaign if it took place in a Japanese city?
Well, considering Americans were helping Japan clean up after the Tsunami, no probably not.
>>138806350
crazy politicians, thats why.
read and research the crazy politicians in Japan, and suddenly everything make sense
>>138806358
Yes and no, primarily becausethe manga hasn't gotten that far.
>>138806358
Yes. You should read it sometime.
>>138806328
But the legislature should have jack shit in the way of operational control of the military, making that irrelevant. And there's a world of difference between fantasizing that the US will save them from future threats and reacting to an invasion in your capitol RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
>>138806435
Thank you for doing jack shit to answer the question of how civilian control of the military is structured, opting instead to repeat the same bullshit said in 5 other posts.
>>138806398
>That's because you're an idiot who can't think ahead
>You think there won't be a hundred rich dudes now itching to fund an insurgency because they saw their kid melt from the phosphorus?
Lell, but gunning down 120,000 soldiers is totally a peace offering. I'm sure none of the generals or lieutenants were anyone's son, father, or husband.
Here's what would happen: They would send their maids and servants out to put out the fire with water, it would explode and they would quickly realize that the best thing to do is to avoid it. After a month of their homes and mansions burning down, they will accept any concessions.
Think of it this way, 1000 or 2000 immolated is better than a hundred times that gunned down on the battlefield. Even if those gunned down were lowborn. And it would send a very strong message to Empire that they cannot resist.
YOU'RE an idiot if you think gunning down their entire army isn't what got the JSDF in this mess in the first place. Having a years-long drawn out stalemate with Empire is literally the worst thing they could have done and it's cost the lives of tens of thousands already.
>>138806358
The manga hasn't gotten that far yet.
I'm gonna miss GATE threads. It's been a lot of fun.
>>138806398
>You think there won't be a hundred rich dudes now itching to fund an insurgency because they saw their kid melt from the phosphorus?
It's funny because next chapter, if Anime gets that far, is literally the Empire funding a full-blown insurgency against the JSDF.
So I guess you're both idiots.
>>138806543
>Having a years-long drawn out stalemate with Empire is literally the worst thing they could have done and it's cost the lives of tens of thousands already.
Which is precisely why they're trying to go the diplomacy/regime change route.
>>138806574
It's mini-/int/ inside of /a/. Minus the flags
It's fun for a while, but after countless threads it feels tiresome. We can still have them when a new chapter of the manga comes out.
>>138806042
It's alright anon, there's always the next cycle. Both of the obvious frontrunners for each party don't seem to be very concerned about privacy, so I'm sure it'll be an even bigger issue by the next election.
>>138806631
You mean /polak/
>>138806613
>Which is precisely why they're trying to go the diplomacy/regime change route.
And they're at full-blown war with the empire now because that failed right quick, didn't it? Almost like gunning down 120,000 on the battlefield was a poor idea born from necessity to keep them out of the gate and not because it was the most strategically sound plan.
>>138806613
>Which is precisely why they're trying to go the diplomacy/regime change route.
but they're already at stalemate. they've been at that for a year before the coup d'etat.
Did anyone seriously think they would work out peace with the empire in the first place? They killed no less than 2/3rd of their army. The hawks are angry because they didn't get their sons, husbands, or fathers back. While the doves are happy because they did from the deal Pina struck.
WP probably not the best answer, but there should have at least been airstrikes from day 1.
>>138803758
Probably because he is. At least.
>>138806543
Theirs a fair amount of difference between "my son died in glorious battle over there" and "my son died screaming while his face melted off and I was powerless to do anything but watch." Numbers don't matter much, what people actually experience does. Stop being IDF tier stupid and think about how perceptions form future actions for a bit.
And Japan hasn't been through the gate for more than year, and probably not much more than half a year, at this point.
>>138806631
I disagree. There's something new in each one. This is the first one I've read where someone suggests that white phosphoring the rich quarter of the capital would have been better than what the Nips have been doing, and I'm starting to agree.
>>138806792
>And Japan hasn't been through the gate for more than year, and probably not much more than half a year, at this point.
Actually, how does the time speed difference between Japan and GATE-land work, again?
>>138806589
No, I'm aware of that. And it's proximate trigger is, of course, the attack on the capitol. The Red Light district also gets the wrong kind of fucked, as they alluded would happen at the end of this episode. Phosphus-kun is the one that doesn't get that actions have consequences.
>>138806631
Certain conversations become tiresome. I was glad when we finally moved past the bitching about the onsen episode.
>>138806792
>Theirs a fair amount of difference between "my son died in glorious battle over there" and "my son died screaming while his face melted off and I was powerless to do anything but watch." Numbers don't matter much, what people actually experience does.
You think that really matters? Either way their son is dead. And they got to watch how it happen.
If any of the senators or nobles got to watch artillery shells rain down on their helpless armies, the effect and outcome would be exactly the same. But they didn't, so they concocted this plan to keep Japan at war for as long as possible. An 'insurgency' if you will.
That's why the Gaza Bank plan was effective in the first place. No one wants that to happen to them, and it only takes a few people seeing it to understand how powerful it can be and demand peace.
It created Hezbollah, but that was probably going to happen anyway.
>And Japan hasn't been through the gate for more than year, and probably not much more than half a year, at this point.
It's been one year at least according to the manga.
>>138806543
I thought everyone said that brute force was the correct way to go about things.
I'll never get tired of modern militaries crushing fantasy ones
>>138806792
Getting mowed down at a distance without killing anyone isn't glorious battle. Not for the losers anyway.
Besides, a lot of those guys will have the more immediate issue of: "I'm going to die screaming with my face melting off if we don't stop this."
>>138806847
When the gate's closed, time passes at 1/4th speed.
When it's open, time passes normally.
>>138806847
Right now, I think they're synced up. That's why earthquakes are happening; essentially two times are stuck on each other, as opposed to two tectonic plates.
>>138806847
As long as the gate is open there is no time-speed difference.
The earthquake thing doesn't make much sense though. Earthquakes are caused by to pieces of connected rock that are under spatial stress. Stress builds up, eventually rocks slip.
But here the stress is in the time dimension, so rather than regular earthquakes, the should be sudden time-slips (compared to the other side of the Gate) which may also induce small earthquakes, who knows, but that wouldn't be the most noteworthy effect.
>>138806810
>white phosphoring the rich quarter of the capital would have been better than what the Nips have been doing
The problem with that is that as soon as word about that gets out to Earth, all of Japan's regional rivals will be screaming about how Japan is returning to its massacring ways, and unlike the Palestinians, the Chinese have enough international clout to ensure that this doesn't get swept under the rug.
>>138806877
>No, I'm aware of that
So you're aware that the thing you said 'would happen' actually DOES happen when going with the 'murder everyone' route, right?
Not saying WP is smart. But don't pretend you're any better than him when both plans are stupid and lead to the worst outcome.
>>138806935
>It created Hezbollah, but that was probably going to happen anyway.
>Your argument is correct, but I'm going to disregard it anyways.
>>138807003
>The problem with that is that as soon as word about that gets out to Earth
How? They don't even know how the layout of that world looks. They were almost compromised by a dollar-store map on the wall.
>>138807003
>all of Japan's regional rivals will be screaming about how Japan is returning to its massacring ways
I mean, it's not like they ever changed.
>>138806313
>spoiler
Probably it was on the Web Novel version or in LN version.
Because I see a lot of japanese sites saying took 7 days to defeat the notRomans.
>>138807014
Hezbollah was the direct cause of the blockade against Gaza lasting for as long as it has. It had NOTHING to do with the initial Gaza Bank strategy. It has everything to do with Israel realizing that they can basically keep them there forever without any consequences because they are "our greatest ally" and all.
So no, the argument that "WP created Hezbollah" isn't correct. The argument that the Gaza Bank plan as a whole created Hezbollah is correct.
>>138807085
>took 7 days to defeat the notRomans.
That's impressive, considering how long the war in the Middle East takes. Maybe the JSDF is really capable after all.
>>138807085
>Because I see a lot of japanese sites saying took 7 days to defeat the notRomans.
>japanese sites
This is why I think it's not credible.
>>138807071
That's the problem with massacring the Chinese. You massacre a million, then fifteen minutes later, you want to do it again.
>>138806935
>>You think that really matters? Either way their son is dead. And they got to watch how it happen.
Yes? We have this stuff called "history" that we can look at for examples, and we're pretty clear by now on how observing death and war in person or visually is different from reading about it later. I'm not going to argue what ifs about the clusterfuck that is the I/P conflict, but it should be pretty clear that Israels tactics are doing jack shit to reduce hatred and move towards an actual peace as opposed to recurring and expensive smackdowns of people living in rubble.
>>138806994
>But here the stress is in the time dimension, so rather than regular earthquakes, the should be sudden time-slips (compared to the other side of the Gate) which may also induce small earthquakes, who knows, but that wouldn't be the most noteworthy effect.
The implication is that the Gate Gods normally prevent Earthquakes, but the Time Slips was such a big deal that even gods can't prevent instability. One assumes that the Earthquakes are just a symptom and not the effect of the timeslip directly.
>>138807133
The Middle East is a very large region, with lots of open desert that can't be monitored 24/7. Tokyo is in comparison a very tiny location, so you could have very accurate reports in every location that matters.
>>138807003
And people wouldn't if they found out that Japan gunned down tens of thousand of essentially unarmed poor sods?
>>138807200
The government hides things from the people all the time. The Chinese does it all the time with their casualties.
>>138807169
>but it should be pretty clear that Israels tactics are doing jack shit to reduce hatred and move towards an actual peace as opposed to recurring and expensive smackdowns of people living in rubble.
Yes, but you can't argue that the WP solution didn't swiftly bring temporary peace to Gaza. It had their leaders crawling to Israel on their knees.
It was a terrible human rights abuse, yes, but it beat the shit out of trying to send in troops to deal with an ongoing insurgency which was already taking place at that time.
We aren't talking their other methods, like the blockades or the airstrikes. We're talking solely about the mortar strikes.
>>138806959
People back at the capitol don't know that. Everyone aside from those who have been shot at range or saw the SDF weapons demo is almost entirely in the dark about how indifferent modern war is to honor.
>>138804427
Who is the father?
>>138807200
Nobody holds the US accountable for when they freed a prisoner being held by the Panama regime. People would have if the US had started carpet bombing their cities.
>>138807200
nRIDF, please.
>>138807036
>380,000 yen
That's one hell of a dollar store.
>>138807257
But the issue here is exactly about those people who have no idea that honor is an outdated policy.
>>138807294
That's just because it was being auctioned.
>>138807153
Here. I hope you can read japanese.
I didn't read the LN raw nor Web novel(the first version) version but I believe that 7 day information came from Web novel version.
http://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E8%87%AA%E8%A1%9B%E9%9A%8A%E5%BD%BC%E3%81%AE%E5%9C%B0%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A6%E3%80%81%E6%96%AF%E3%81%8F%E6%88%A6%E3%81%88%E3%82%8A
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88_%E8%87%AA%E8%A1%9B%E9%9A%8A_%E5%BD%BC%E3%81%AE%E5%9C%B0%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A6%E3%80%81%E6%96%AF%E3%81%8F%E6%88%A6%E3%81%88%E3%82%8A
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%20%E8%87%AA%E8%A1%9B%E9%9A%8A%20%E5%BD%BC%E3%81%AE%E5%9C%B0%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A6%E3%80%81%E6%96%AF%E3%81%8F%E6%88%A6%E3%81%88%E3%82%8A
>>138807169
>Yes? We have this stuff called "history" that we can look at for examples
History shows that when dealing with Savages, shock and awe works great. Especially when dealing with pre-gunpowder societies
Do you even know why Japan became industrialized? It's because a man named Matthew C. Perry brought his fleet over to Japan, consisting entirely of steam ships.
Japan promptly looked at ships, that moved without slaves or sails, that was covered head to toe in cannons. Perry then told them that if they didn't sign his agreement, that thing would be sitting in their port for a while.
Naturally, they signed.
That's what Japan should have done initially. Gunning down their armies taught them nothing. Showing them the equivalent of a steam ship would have been something.
So yeah, history can teach a lot. Maybe you should pick up a history book every once in a while instead of mounting that high horse you have.
>>138807266____me____
>>138807200
Army A rushing Army B and getting slaughtered isn't the fault of Army B, that's just self defense (force). Just because they were armed with outclassed swords and arrows doesn't mean Army B is any less fucked if they actually get in range to use them.
Army B targeting fire on civilians absolutely is unchill.
I just realised another major reason why Japan deliberately doesn't want to take over the Gate government; for as long as they stay separate they can leave the issue of Abolitionism to Pina to work out in her own time. But if the JSDF is the real ruler then they would have no choice but to abolish slavery right away, and the political muscle required to change this would be monumental.
>>138807433
>Perry then told them that if they didn't sign his agreement, that thing would be sitting in their port for a while.
They were going to blow Japan to fucking pieces with those things if they didn't sign. Fuck Perry.
>>138807254
No, we're talking about what happens AFTER the mortar strikes. That is, perception of the conflict becoming ever more unconducive to any kind of path to peace aside from genocide.
>>138807193
>he Middle East is a very lar
They took 7 days because of political shit about JSDF.
JSDF had to wait.
>>138807476
If only real nation-building was this easy.
>>138807499
Yet, it didn't happen and no one died.
HUH
ALMOST LIKE THAT WAS THE RIGHT STRATEGY TO TAKE.
No, I guess your strategy would have involved gunning down all their ships but never actually explaining to them WHY all their ships sank so they just keep running into that brick wall until massive casualties actually did happen.
You know, the diplomatic way!
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>>138807499
See, this is why you require a game of Ninja Baseball to be played before signing any treaties.
>>138802917
>WHY WON'T ANYONE COME RAPE ME LIKE HOW THEY DO IT IN THE DOUJINS?
>>138807266
It's Akira Tomita.
>>138807541
>No, we're talking about what happens AFTER the mortar strikes. That is, perception of the conflict becoming ever more unconducive to any kind of path to peace aside from genocide.
If Israel quit going full-retard after the incident, Gaza bank would be peaceful today.
But they didn't. Gaza is entirely the fault of Israeli politicians going full-retard. Not the strategy themselves.
Can we move away from I/P politics? Because we're heading that way. This is even assuming the Empire knows how to mount a viable guerrilla campaign in the first place.
>>138807433
What's the equivalent of a steam ship for GATEverse? They did bullets, helicopters, humvees, RPGs, F16s.
>>138807499
>Fuck Perry
The only party at fault when an isolationist country falls behind is the country itself. It's not Europe's fault that China wasn't as technologically capable when they began colonizing.
>>138807543
Yeah, my point is that it took less than a week because Tokyo is an easier battlefield than the Middle East.
>>138807546
Did you skip all the parts where Zolzal acted like he could defeat the JSDF?
>>138807576
that probley was the torture, everyone knew about her rape fetish so nobody did anything
>>138807302
Exactly. So as far as they know, their cousin Bud Weiser died gloriously in battle, and imperials used to constant wars of conquest are going to be a lot more okay with that idea than ineffectually watching Bud die right in front of them screaming from the 2000 degree phosphorus melting their skull when they just had dinner an hour ago.
>>138807433
>That's what Japan should have done initially. Gunning down their armies taught them nothing. Showing them the equivalent of a steam ship would have been something.
Article 9 and War Guilt Program made miracles with japanese people's mind.
>>138807433
>Gunning down their armies taught them nothing. Showing them the equivalent of a steam ship would have been something.
Considering it took some explaining to Pina for her to realise that they aren't using magic and what they are using can't be made by even the best craftsmen in their world that idea isn't a full solution. It would take more work than just that.
>>138807499
Can't argue with results. If Japan did the same thing to Empire, they wouldn't have lost 120,000+ people.
>>138807639
Helicopters and jets seem to be the ticket.
>>138807646
>Did you skip all the parts where Zolzal acted like he could defeat the JSDF?
Yes, because the JSDF did the retarded thing and never taught the empire WHY their armies were defeated. They just gunned down a hundred thousand people and never once thought 'hey maybe this will make a backlash of some kind'.
I'm not the WP guy, but not attacking the capitol directly with their terrifying weaponry is retarded.
>>138807658
>Bud Weiser
Nah, he was a fuckhead that nobody liked. Now their uncle Sexon da Beech, that's a real stand-up fellow who ended up being a real loss to the community.
>>138807546
You say that but, years later they would come back with two bombs. Wrong strategy in the end.
>>138807433
Japan was really fucking aware of how things were going on the outside, such as China, getting creamed by a single ship during the Opium War. The idea that they were completely shut off from the outside is a myth. What Perry did was finally give the people who had been arguing for industrialization for years the edge they needed.
See, I actually do read, I don't just slurp pop culture mythology.
>>138807701
It was explained to her in two sentences from flat blue kuudere #5. It probably wouldn't have been that hard.
>>138807499
Hey, he was in a pretty Perrylous position.
>>138807085
Who says that whoever posted it on those sites didn't make it up? (Just like the guy in this thread who said that bullshit was in the LN and manga, when it wasn't.)
>>138807346
Link 1 copied link 2. Link 2 is the Japanese Wikipedia and link 3 is Nico. Even if it's in there somewhere, it wouldn't mean anything.
>>138807760
Yeah, plus he stuck around, trying to open everything he could lay his hands on.
>>138807760
>Years later
>Literally a hundred years after the fact during a completely different war with a completely different emperor using an army with technology developed by the country they were fighting in which they were roughly equal.
Sir?
Sir have you ever read a history book?
>>138807826
Can I see those spoilers?
Those came from what versions?
Manga version?
>>138807723
You don't understand, Zolzal was clearly not in the mood for diplomacy. Japan was ready to begin making deals with the Empire before Zolzal took over.
>>138807760
>You say that but, years later they would come back with two bombs. Wrong strategy in the end.
>Wrong strategy in the end
OH BOY HERE WE GO
>>138807433
>Maybe you should pick up a history book every once in a while instead of mounting that high horse you have.
This this this.
This thread needs more images
>>138807929
>You don't understand, Zolzal was clearly not in the mood for diplomacy.
He was when he saw those paratroopers dropping onto his kingdom. For that brief moment, that was his steam ship.
Except rabbit hitler had to talk him out of it.
>>138807777
>See, I actually do read, I don't just slurp pop culture mythology.
So you agree that it was an excellent idea that was for the benefit of both nations? Great! I'm glad we could see eye to eye on things.
>>138807991
I want to post images instead of arguing history because in the end, the show is what it is. We can't go back and re-write it even if something seems like a smart idea in retrospect.
>>138807991
>You will never inject her with hot lead and later take responsibility
Why even live?
REV UP THOSE PARATROOPERS
>>138808051
>We can't go back and re-write it even if something seems like a smart idea in retrospect.
Doesn't it seem like Japan could have practically solved World Peace if they had helped out the people in GATE?
>>138807460
They could have used non-lethal means to subdue them, like tear gas and water cannons. I can understand flakking the wyverns, but there was no reason at all to kill the infantry, who were only there in the first place because the Emperor had lied to their commanders. They posed no threat and weren't even actually Japan's enemy. If Gate were real, some of the Japanese commanders and politicians have bought themselves a ticket to The Hague.
>>138807543
Why has it still not been explained how civilian control of the military works in GATEland? The only way political considerations matter is if it has to go through the legislature. Otherwise, any government sitting on their ass when there are invaders in your city, killing your people, when there is an army garrison 10 miles away and special forces 15 miles away, is beyond retarded. Stop handwaving with "muh politics" and actually answer the first sentence.
>>138808002
That's exactly the problem, rabbit hitler. Zolzal wouldn't have even though of imprisoning the doves, or even staging a coup, if it hadn't been for her. Her being there completely negates anything Japan could do short of leveling the capital completely.
>my name is Beefeater but you can call me beef eater
What did she mean by this?
>>138808158
Rabbit hitler's cunt must be made of gold.
