After reading three dozen or so mangas I've got the impression (also gained by interviews done by Q Hayashida and Nihei) that most mangaka tend to stretch their series to tedious lengths for fear of being destitute when the ride is over.
Is this an inherent flaw of the Japanese market? Hell, when you read stuff like Berserk or that viking manga you can see the creator set sail for a location that's 10 years in the future. They're basically making sure they have steady employment while the plot goes nowhere.
This happens everywhere
>Have an intended story and conclusion, stop when you get there
>Dieregard quality, pursue currency
Choose one. Applies to all media.
>>138661531
Its not always the author, sometimes the editor forces them to stretch things out or cut them earlier. Contractual obligations or what not
I think I read something pretty much like this on 2ch about American TV-series.
>>138661627
I suppose editors want to maintain their job stability as well.
>>138661578
There are far less authorial jobs running for decades on the same franchise in European or American media. Hellblazer had dozen writers alone switch positions.
There are loads of series that don't do this. Just because there are notable examples doesn't mean there is a problem with the medium.
>>138661531
>After reading three dozen or so mangas I've got the impression
Read more.
Seriously, fucking read more.
The real problem is people will buy sequels or continuations in droves, even if the quality is nowhere near that of the original. As a non-/a/ example, look at the newest Star Wars. The story had a conclusion and there was no need to make new movies, and yet people flocked to theaters to see it. This results in companies pushing out more shitty sequels or extending series indefinitely until the quality finally drops or the author / writer / creator gets tired and puts an end to it.
>>138661752
I'm talking about a recurring theme, most of them drag on.
>>138661951
But Star Wars is a franchise that tons of people take turns creating, I'm talking about mangakas treating their work as a meal ticket for a lifetime.
>>138661984
>I'm talking about a recurring theme, most of them drag on.
Do you know how giant the manga medium is? You can't say anything about it after '' reading three dozen or so mangas''
>>138662026
Sorry for not reading hundreds upon hundreds of samey regurgitated stuff instead of going for quality work.
At least they finally end after some years. Capeshit never ends.
>>138662046
''i have a watched three dozen or so hollywood movies. Why are all live-action movies action oriented trash?''
The author doesn't have fully autonomy when deciding when to end a series. Sure they could quit altogether, but good luck getting another job if you have a complete disregard for the publisher and editors. Editors want to continue popular series because having one popular manga can make or break the magazine's future. Take Gangan for example, they sold 150 000 copies 2010, then Full metal alchemist ended, and in 2014 they sold 30 000 copies.
>>138662116
Enjoy your strawman
>>138661531
From what I can tell, most mangaka don't have any ending in mind when they start their manga. Manga is basically TV in that regard, lots of filler.
>>138662116
because
>Hollywood movies
>>138661531
Read more. Seriously.
>>138662141
Why is that analogy invalid though?
shit thread op
>>138662555
>most mangaka don't have any ending in mind when they start their manga
They do from a narrative standpoint though. Whether they end up putting in practice that ending or not is another matter.
>>138662046
>Sorry for not reading hundreds upon hundreds of samey regurgitated stuff instead of going for quality work.
>implying Japan doesn't have hundreds upon hundreds of good manga you've never heard about.
>>138662688
>hundreds upon hundreds of good manga
Let's not exaggerate.
>>138662068
>At least they finally end after some years.
Bleach, Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Conan, etc
>I only read WSJ stuffs
Read more manga, fagget
>>138662706
There are way more that that,you just need to find them.
>>138662731
You forgot even worse offenders: DragonBall, Yotsubato, HxH
>>138662920
I haven't seen any list of "hundreds of good manga" ever. The art is usually subpar and generic. Manga is the same as any other medium, most of it is crap.
It happens to all media. I've listened to podcasts with people who work in Hollywood and in every pitch they make for a TV show the question that always comes back is "What are they doing in the 100th episode."
Having a complete story and stopping when you hit it is the exception.
>>138662046
>Sorry for not reading hundreds upon hundreds of samey regurgitated stuff
How the FUCK would you be able to make such a claim without having read any of it?
Kill yourself manchild.
>>138663093
You're looking for manga in English.
There's your problem: you're a fucking idiot.
>>138661684
I hate cape comics so fucking much
>>138663093
>Manga is the same as any other medium, most of it is crap.
Yeah but even if 99% of it is utter shit the japs make so many of them the remaining 1% should be quite a significant amount.
>>138663154
ばか
>>138663156
There are some great runs, its strength can be different take on the same archetype.
ITT: Retards who have read the big three thinking this is representative of the entire medium.
>>138661531
This is why webcomics are the ultimate medium.
>>138664550
ohohohohohoh
>>138661531
>3DPD
>mangas
Fuck off and kill yourself.
