What did he mean by this?
>>136327947
New anime is trash compared to his works. Its pretty smug but overall hes right. He has a video where he says "you can't draw anime like this if you've never seen it" which is where he says that japanese animation is a failure today because it doesn't capture real human emotion, poise, prose, or emulation.
he meant it's fast and bulbous
>>136327947
is it true, that he is a pedophile like me?
In all taking pasta seriously he hates anime that isn't for children, to the point he doesn't even like porco rosso.
>>136327947
He's right.
>>136327947
He is an old master of the art, ofcourse he's right
>>136327947
The man is an artist. Of course he'd have strong opinions of just TV shows that tend to be of a generic nature.
>>136327947
He may be great successor to animation, but hes just getting ahead of himself when he made that statement.
He didn't make anime and it certainly did not come from him, anime got created because people wanted it and as it may be ugly now, its still what people ask for.
Just because he doesn't like it, he makes it sound like his opinion is the very truth.
Fking getting old, i say.
>>136327947
The anime industry as it looks today mass produces new series while investing as little as possible. Most of these flop but those that make it compensate for the flops.
Unfortunately most that make the big buck are either toy commercials:the anime or waifus meant to capture the hearts of societal outcasts.
>>136331297
He is the biggest authority on the medium and the only other person that can even begin to compare is hideaki anno
>>136331353
Being famous and having authority is just another way of saying small shiny cog among the many.
He's just a man who was born and made great animation, but animation will over step him and turn out into what ever "It" likes to become.
Saying its a mistake is overstatement and arrogant on his part.
>>136327947
I personally think that what he means is that Anime has grown stagnent. Characters aren't well rounded anymore. I remember a thread about a week ago where someone said "Tsundere used to be a character trait that would develop. Now, it's just a character." It's so fucking true.
I mean, we have the occassional breakout shows like One-Punch Man and Kill La Kill, but ultimately, most characters today are utter shit. And yes, characters are more important than plot. You can inject lovable characters into a shitty plot and make it work (Just look at Bleach and One Piece) but you can't have an interesting plot without good characters.
Ultimately, I blame the Japanese anime-freaks. They are willing to buy anything and everything that the studio pumps out about their favourite show. Anime studios have learned that they don't need to make interesting characters and plots anymore, just service their dicks and you've got a guaranteed windfall. It's pretty much the same story as Stage Theater in the west. Most companies aren't willing to risk something new, when they can guarantee profit by putting on any old play, or something with popular music in it (like Mama Mia)
TL;DR: Anime is shit, because thanks to the japanese weeaboo's buying any rubbish the studio pumps out, it's more profitable to make it shit.
>>136331543
>>136331543
thanks for sharing your echo chamber thoughts
>>136331543
I feel like this is pasta.
>>136331676
>>136331895
>TFW /a/ is such a cesspit of hate that people don't believe someone can string a bunch of facts and educated opinions together, to make a somewhat cohesive argument, by themselves.
>>136327947
He just didn't want it to become mass culture I think. Industry now for the most part is not able to do something original, instead it's just produces moeshit and shounens, indistinguishable from one another, feeding on human's lowest desires and no longer trying to create something that can be moving and thought provoking. It's even an art anymore.
If you haven't seen that actual scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMHrlxJRxc
I think it's a documentary worth watching regardless of your opinions on the guy
>>136332103
Thanks for the two part copypasta.
>>136332168
>Miyazaki says he's definitely not an otaku
>jump cut to him and Anno being total fanboys over the model plane
The documentary director is a cheeky little bastard
Rewatching this, it's odd how genuine of a person Anno seems like.
He always looks like he's a bit uncomfortable around others, but he tries anyway and attempts to overcome his meekness.
>>136332103
I'm really tempted to take this bait right now, but I'm going to stay strong and not end up wasting my time.
>>136332202
Fuck off. Not everything someone says has to be a reference to something else. People can form their own personal opinions by themselves.
>>136332103
>having any form of faith in /a/
>"If it isn't mine then it is shit"
He is just a grumpy old entitled hack.
He's like a spoiled American kid who was always told he's special put into the body of a tiny nip.
>>136332103
>facts and educated opinions
>>136332392
Well, to be fair, 90% of posts on here broil down to "Everything I dislike is shit"
It's a refreshing change to see something almost different.
he hates filthy otaku whom fuck their body pillows till its brimming with cum. And the industry is full of otaku making shit for otaku. Hideaki Anno also doesn't like Otaku.
>>136332103
I was only implying that everyone here agrees since it's fucking obvious.
>>136332473
>Hideaki Anno also doesn't like Otaku.
Anno is the DEFINITION of an otaku. The only thing that makes him different from the modern 2ch ones is he has friends
>>136327947
So nobody actually cares that he didn't really say that at all? See >>136332168
>>136332550
We did have a 500 post thread once on the big speech he actually did say in why the industry is full of otaku these days that don't have real life to take experience from when drawings.
>>136332550
newfag, fuck off
>>136332168
Anno has a really wierd voice. He doesn't sound like most Japanese people.
>>136327947
I believe it could be liberally translated as "You're waifu a shit."
>>136328833
>>136327947
Watch this and read his interview, I think he's kind of right. Anime as of now is a mistake and lack of 'life' because it's focus only to sell otaku.
>>136332498
>Anno is the DEFINITION of an otaku
Does not disprove what >>136332473 said. Also Anno gives the impression of somebody that does not really like himself
>>136327947
i love miya but isnt some of his characters sameface
>>136327947
He was asking for help. He was clearly stating his intention to kill himself.
What?
I thought it was a meme, did he really say that?
>>136334940
The latter part was a meme, he said the anime was a mistake part in an interview not in an documentary.Source: My Ass
>>136332575
It is true. It's why Murata's art is so godlike. Because he actually learnt proper human anatomy before stylising it to however he wants.
Animation-wise miyazaki was all about lovingly portraying the nuances of realistic human movement, with a very traditionally japanese zen-inspired reverence for the small and mundane details of life. Most anime makes as little effort as possible to portray movement, with realistic and nuanced being the last of their priorities.
In regards to the themes and stories he liked to tell his focus was generally on gentle coming of age stories where a young girl discovers herself and role in the community around her, portraying the value of individual modesty and social connectedness. Otaku value the opposite of social connectedness, seeking instead a conceited form of isolation. Anime storylines generally appeal to the opposite of individual modesty, portraying power fantasies to self-insert into where the mc is at the centre of everything. The differences in motivation for miyazaki's focus on young girls and that of anime at large are obvious, and probably feel like the worst possible corruption of what he was going for.
>>136334583
In a commercialism based industry, most of the stuff that it produces will be common dimeadozen shit. This is the same of virtually any industry, whether it's movies or mobile phones or cars. It would be more contextually factually to say that capitalism ruined the spirit of anime, but at least the world got to appreciate anime through its capitalist exploitation.
As an artist, he is right to express his frustration and has the right to demand more from the next generation who will succeed him, whether they be Japanese or not. As a businessman, that is complete bullocks.
>>136337770
But that is just a cultural disagreement. His youth is rooted in the reconstruction era where the future was bright and there was a population boom. Furthermore, people had a strong faith in their society and in the promise of Japan as a modern nation. Today's youth and worker class experience and believe the exact opposite of everything that Miyazaki experienced. It elf be more unfair for him to demand that they conform to his view of life and instead accept that there are social phenomena going on within society itself which has led to such extreme fiction being demanded for and played out across the entire spectrum of the entertainment industry.
In other words, he wants anime of things that can or have existed while the current install base of otaku fans want what can't exist. There is a clear dissonance across generations that speak more about the bleakness of the times than it does about the death of creativity.
>miyazaki is a pedo
>miyazaki is a xenophobe and hate gaijins
>glorified ww2 nippon
>hate technologies
Why do people think he is the spokeperson for anime? Just because he made a fapbait like Kiki?
>>136334518
This is what reading Scaruffi does to you.
>>136332616
he is infact Chinese & Corean mix, my dad told me, he works at kyoani.
Like I give a fuck about what some old gook says
Is Miyazaki a Cancolle or a 2hufag?
>>136332103
>educated opinions
Goro must feel so shitty everytime Anno comes around and geeks out over airplanes and animation with his dad. Anno is the son Miyazaki always wanted.
>>136327947
It was a mistake....
>>136340681
Well fuck
>>136334518
I can believe this. The accusation that is leveled at Miyazaki is that he tends to sameface, but I think it's more than that. I think in his mind he holds a particular concept of a girl, and different aspects of that girl come out in his works over time. In other words, a waifu.
>>136340805
When is Anno going to start making family movies? I recall Miyazaki passing him the torch.
>>136340901
If you consider Godzilla as a family movie, now.
>>136338379
So that's why I'm a lolicon.
>>136340709
>>136340681
Kill yourself
>>136327947
>>136341105
The man knows what he's talking about. Otaku fucks are disgusting excuses for human beings.
> It's produced by humans who can't stand looking at other humans
Well damn. I never knew he said this.
>>136331482
>what ever "It" likes to become
You mean whatever the fat, tasteless otaku of Japan purchase the most figurines and hug pillows for. Whether you think Miya has authority to speak on this matter or not, which shouldn't even be a question, anime is predominantly adaptions of poorly written light novels and shallow moe manga while pandering to otaku culture and fads. Unless you're a teenager who likes to project himself on to characters surrounded by a harem or enjoy jacking off to cartoon children, he's right.
>>136327947
"Anime was a success"
Miyazaki, 2016
>>136327947
That anime was a mistake you fucktard
>>136341105
I wonder if that's really true though. Most otaku actually do have a little bit of experience with humans thanks to somewhat normal early childhoods. Parents, older/younger siblings, classmates -- it's not until one gets older that things begin to go off the rails.
I suppose that's why both otaku creators and consumers pay especially close attention to these relationships.
Once you start touching upon the dynamics of adult male/female interaction, that's when otaku run out of real-life situations to reference.
>>136331297
He never actually said that. It's a false sub.
>>136331543
>Just look at Bleach and One Piece
But their characters are also shit.
>>136343821
NANI?!
