Why is it that the Lancers are the best characters in both Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works?
Of course, aside from Alexander the Great.
>>136323918
BecauseLuck Egets them into the worst situations possible.
Fate Zero is so much better than trash UBW i can't believe it's not a universal opinion on here.
You had Saber in a fucking suit, can't get any better.
>>136324004
fights were better in UBW /a/migo
though obviously the MC in UBW was infuriatingly terrible
>>136324004
>fate zero
>better because saburr
fck off saburrfag, saburr ruin both shows.
>>136323941
So very Luck E.
>>136324004
But Saber get to dress a white dress in UBW.
>>136324004
This.
UBW was just some generic shounenshit plot.
>>136324004
Saber isn't good in either ufotable anime.
>>136324004
Wait until Heaven's Feel
>>136324048
>the MC in UBW was infuriatingly terrible
Fuck off, Shirou is great.
Kiritsugu is a bag of wet ass.
Unless this shitty VN ever gets localised on to VITA i ain't ever playing it.
>still not scanned
>>136324197
Why specifically the Vita?
Why not just play it on PC?
>>136324186
>HERO OF JUSTICE x10000000000
>NO MATTER HOW OUTCLASSED I AM, I'LL JUST USE MY BELIEF IN MYSELF AND IDEALS TO ASSPULL RETARDED LEAPS IN POWER
Nah Shirou is dogshit and Kiritsugu is the man
>>136324048
>UBW battles
>"Better"
Not when you had Lancelot riding a fucking jet blasting away Gilgamesh UFO on top of a giant otherworldly creature being attacked by an army. No.
>>136324219
>every thread until its scanned
>>136323918
>Delusional dictator
>Retarded fuck
>Good
>>136324259
>Sitting in front of your PC to play a 60+ hour VN instead of being comfy in bed with your Vita
>>136323918
As always, secondaries only know about UBW and Zero.
>>136324358
I played it on my laptop in my bed. Super comfy.
>>136324311
>I've literally never read the VN
Fucking secondaries
>>136323918
>Diarmuid
>A good character
He's god awful.
>>136324316
That fight had zero tension and was boring as shit.
>>136324430
I read the VN and he's not wrong. Shirou asspulls powers out of nowhere. Or at least it is said he got powers because he's a special snowflake that did not know it resided in him, for no apparent reason.
But I have read FSN VN so I'm missing something here.
>>136324430
That was the essence of UBW though
Archer tries to convince him his ideals are a lie, hopeless, but he keeps going and won't stop because he thinks his ideals are pure
Then he beats archer and Gilgamesh
>>136324448
Still better than UBW's fight where you knew Shirou was going to win no matter what.
>>136324397
Laptops are shit and overheat on bed.
>>136324608
My dick needed some heat anyway, anon.
>it's a secondary circlejerk thread
>>136324510
> for no apparent reason.
>Be normal kid
>Die
>Get ultra super NP, best of the best inside your body
>Be "reborn" as a machine
>Super NP along with his personality that sees himself as a tool shape his origin and elemental affinity to sword
>Get awful teacher that teaches you jack shit about magic and doesn't even understand what your ability is
Literally everything is explained in the first 2 routes, you're motherfucking stupid if you think he gets powers out of nowhere or for no apparent reason.
Kiritsugu was a shit teacher that pretty much told Shirou to kill himself by doing self destructive magic, Rin after 2 days was able to figure out Shirou's abilities weren't fit for strenghtening.
>>136324606
UBWs fights were less about the fight and more about the characters' convictions and internal conflicts
A lot more interesting than a bunch of possessed missiles chasing a UFO
>>136324608
bro buy one of these padded 'desks' for ur laptop
put it right on ur crotch and u dont have to worry about killing your sperms
Archer coming back was such bullshit.
>>136324439
Still better than you'll ever be.
>>136324004
>You had Saber in a fucking suit,
My refined ninja. Nothing beats a hot blond in a suit.
>>136324603
>He beats Archer
He only wins in ideals, which was the point of the fight you shonenfaggot
>Gilgamesh
We've been through this already, if you don't want to accept Gilgamesh is shit then don't but stop being annoying.
>>136324603
>Guy barely beats Archer
>And wins idealistically rather than physically
>Beats a toying-around Gilgamesh with help from Archer
Ok.
>>136324510
>I read the VN but didn't fucking actually READ the VN.
Ok.
>>136324606
>Gilgamesh vs anyone
>not predictable
If you actually read the VN and knew how strong Gilgamesh was you would know that he was in never in any risk.
>>136324004
That's because there's people with taste and those without it like you senpai.
>>136324739
>Coming back
He literally never died. Gilgamesh missed majority of his attacks and Archer just went spirit mode. Even the anime makes it pretty clear and shows you Gilgamesh sucks at aiming, yet retarded secondaries like you still don't get it.
>>136324709
And?
that fight had caster convictions, Diarmuid and Saber conflict, and Berserker actually putting up a fight with Gilgamesh is the complete opposite of Kariya's pitiful fight where he did jack shit. As well as Berseker chasing Saber being expanded upon later.
The fight was not just pews pews pews.
>>136324688
>>136324779
Yes. Thank you.
Now, explain to me why he got super OP abilities in the first place.
>>136324311
>I'LL JUST USE MY BELIEF IN MYSELF AND IDEALS TO ASSPULL RETARDED LEAPS IN POWER
Can you at least try? He was getting his power from his interactions with his future self who succeeded at mastering his powers.
>>136324004
Saber in F/Z was a terrible character.
Butcher himself said he didn't understand her. And it shows, he made her a moralfag retard that's there just to get BTFO by all this losers that weren't half as good as her at being kings.
She was there to be bullied, she was full muh knighto codo but we knew since F/SN Saber is pretty much Kiritsugu.
>tfw can't decide if i like Rin or Saber more
Shinji realist boy in the series.
>>136324851
I already explained it to you shitposter-kun. >>136324688
If you don't understand the things I posted and why they made him have those powers it just shows you're a filthy secondary.
>>136324851
>>136324851
Did you miss the part where the magic scabbard got shoved in to his chest, changed his magic to 'sword' and his origin to 'sword' so that when he cast 'sword' it was super strong?
>>136324921
No. You didn't, shitposter kun.
I said what happened that made him get his special snowflake abilities.
>>136324926
k.
But Sabers is the best character, OP.
>>136324921
Quite honestly secondary is a shitty insult even my 14 year old brother who watched it besides me understood this shit more than the retards on this board.
>>136324944
It was still retardedly strong enough to beat top tier servants.
>>136324944
Avalon didn't change his origin, it did change his elemental affinity.
His origin became that because of how he is, remember when Shirou says that he died and was reborn he's not joking, the Emiya Shirou we know was born in that fire. .
>>136324984
It's not even that strong, just a perfect counter to gilg.
>>136325006
Arguably Avalon changed it because otherwise he'd be dead.
>>136324984
It's only really useful against shit servants and direct counters.
>>136324984
Mages can kill servants, see Bazett.
>Hey, you know what was missing from Emiya vs Archer?
>Replacing EMIYA with Jpop
Said nobody but Ufotable
>>136325014
>It's not even that strong
You're retarded if you think that, killing Heracles 6 times in a position of disadvantage is amazing no matter how you want to put it. Killing Saber Alter, the strongest servant is also amazing no matter how you want to put it.
Shirou's abilities are really powerful overall.
UBW is worse than GoB but it's still powerful, not enough for the servants of the 5th war though but definetely enough or much of a threat for others that are clearly weaker than those.
>inb4 that 2004 interview that came with F/SN and Nasu said UBW was a distraction against other servants
Only F/SN servants existed back then.
>>136325014
He beat Heracles with it as well.
Not using the reality marble, but just summoning a half-assed imagination of the sword and still defeated him.
I DO know it was his last live and he was really weak by that point but that felt like a complete asspull.
>>136325050
I know, but Shirou was not a fully prepared mage and it took him days to do what a skilled mage needed to practice for years.
I know, power of conviction, power of talent, etc etc but can you blame me for finding this too much for suspension of disbelief?
>>136325095
UBW's biggest failing was not enough EMIYA. I hope they don't cut Hikari to Yami from Heaven's Feel too.
>>136324004
>Fate Zero is so much better than trash UBW i can't believe it's not a universal opinion on here.
It isn't? Ufo UBW fucking blows compared to F/Z, but to be fair a lot of what made UBW good was predicated on having played the Fate route of the VN.
>>136325095
ANIPLEX makes them do it, just like LiSA/Kalafina sing the opening to every shit they put out.
Aimer is their new product so they need to advertise, I mean they did give them the 2 HA openings.
>>136325137
Why can't you just accept that he got his powers from his future self who literally mastered his powers and took 20 years to do so?
>>136325163
Yeah it isn't shittaste-kun.
>>136325204
Because I'm pretty sure they repeat in the novel enough times that his powers are nowhere as refined as Archer's mastery of the swords to the point of being nauseating? and in Heaven's feel they had to fucking transplant his arm to get to his level.
See, I don't have problem with SUPER POWERFUL ATTACKS because that's what the series is about, but the way how they handled Shirou's awakening of his reality marble was just awful and snowflakey.
Reminder that all of Fate is good.
I just caught up with hollow ataraxia. Hanafuda is a pretty fun game.
I almost want to delve deeper, I know there's a bit more stuff out there, but I think it's all untranslated psp games and shit.
>>136325297
The more time he spent with Archer the faster he gained his power strength. In UBW he spent a shit ton of time with Archer. I don't see the issue.
>>136325297
>how they handled Shirou's awakening of his reality marble was just awful and snowflakey.
I am sure I won't get through to you but whatever he got it from Archer who he spent some time fighting and he just mimicked him. Like everything with Fate there is just some heavy amount of people nitpicking everywhere.
>there are people who don't love Shirou
What a waste of the air I breathe on this earth.
>>136325379
See, "mimicking" is an explanation but it's still too retarded I can't wrap my head around how he managed to kill Gilgamesh at the end with it.
Maybe to you it's nitpicky, but to me there's bullshit Fate pulls off, and then there's this. I'm definitely missing something here.
>>136325502
>I can't wrap my head around how he managed to kill Gilgamesh at the end with it.
Because, and I want you to repeat after me:
Gilgamesh is a retard.
>>136325502
Gil was countered with sword rain and defeated because he was cocky.
>>136325502
>UBW was perfect counter to GoB because it was faster
>Gilg didn't respect him enough to pull out Ea or his armour
It's not hard.
>>136325502
>Judging the concept of creation
>Hypothesizing the basic structure
>Duplicating the composition material
>Imitating the skill of its making
>Sympathizing with the experience of its growth
>Reproducing the accumulated years
>Excelling every manufacturing process
>>136325618
>le bone of muh sword
>>136325502
Because maybe Gil isn't as invincible as you seem to think he is.
>>136325653
I didn't really like this line, it was kind of like his "signature quote" and I think it was too forced for the number of times he said it
>>136325592
>his armour
That was eaten back in the 4th war.
>>136325744
>What is the Fate route
>>136325587
>Gil was countered with sword rain and defeated because he was cocky.
I don't like that ending then, it means gilgamesh didn't fight at his max power and was completely blindsided because he purposely underestimated shirou
>>136325744
>>136325763
Fate route is not a continuity with F/Z.
>>136325765
Okay? At least is not a complete shonen asspull where MC surpasses the big bad.
>>136325765
>purposely underestimated
What does that even mean?
>>136325765
It's part of Gil's fucking character to be cocky how did he purposely underestimated?
>>136325765
itt people whose only exposure to nasu's universe are fate and they don't understand the concept of origins
>>136325991
>itt people surprised fatefags are cancerous secondaries
>>136325991
>itt people whose only exposure to nasu's universe are fate/zero and they don't understand
fixed
>>136326018
What's wrong with being a secondary on the Anime/Manga board?
>Fate thread
Can we ban these?
>>136325882
>>136325847
It means that gilgamesh would never fight shirou at his absolute best because despite all his tedious plotting and calculations. His absolute power when wiping out someone like berserker revealing his phantasm of godly chains or what ever.
It seems so absolutely cliche that he would purposely underestimate it because he NEVER had a contingency that followed making SURE all the other competitors were dead before he started building the holy grail.
ITT: Newfags
>>136326056
Lowers your e-cred.
Fuck off Fatd fags,Kara No Kyokai was ufotables pinnacle
>>136326106
That and the fact of all this chivalry and honor in fighting. You'd think there would be more aggressive characters that sought to kill. Hell, caster let the fucking kids go 3 god damn times. She let them escape 3 fucking times not including all the other times that the other characters let them run
>>136324004
With that fucking logic I would prefer Hollow Ataraxia because Saber is in a damn swimsuit learning how to bloody swim!
>>136326099
No, now fuck off back to whatever containment thread you came from
>>136326106
Thats a literally part of his character,anon
>>136324170
That's because you can't make literal shit good.
>>136326106
What? How is he being cocky not make sense? Just what?
>>136326168
Now you are jumping to something else to complain about, I guess you conceded with Gil's crap?
>>136325991
It's still a bit of a shit that late UBW is Shiro going through years of development through fucking Rin and a bit of exposure to future possibility.
At the end of the day, "it's magic, I ain't got to explain shit" comes into all these fantasy series, even autistic, developed, detailed and thoroughly chuuni nasu type stuff
>>136326168
Why don't you just watch the show it explains why she lets them go 3 times.
>>136325845
I think the difference between a counter and surpassing is less than you think for most. Beating the bad guy is still beating the bad guy.
Gilfags please fuck off and die.
>>136325095
At least it fits the scene somewhat. Having EMIYA in the Jigoku scene would be weird.
>>136326267
Who's a Gilfag? I prefer a much better character
Every time you Nasufaggots post Zack Fair without realizing it's Zack Fair, I want you to die just a little bit more.
>>136326267
anyone is better than shitrou tbqh famalam
>>136326106
>His absolute power when wiping out someone like berserker revealing his phantasm of godly chains or what ever.
He took Berserker only a bit more seriously than Shirou.
>>136326307
Asshurt goldielocks.
>>136326222
Archer taught him how his magic worked? You know what no one is convincing anyone here just butt fuck it.
>>136326106
>tedious plotting and calculations
You'd call his plan complicated?
>wiping out someone like berserker
Berserker didn't have a counter to GoB
>godly chains
Not know the chains work specifically well on heracles because of his divinity and would not work on shirou
>>136326186
>>136326213
That just sounds completely arbitrary and cliche. Being cocky couldn't have been his only flaw. If he was so cocky why did he extend such effort at Berserker over time trying to size him up but NOT extend the same effort to shirou. Shirou constantly ramped up his own power and completely negated gilgamesh's attacks
>oh shit he blocked the entire attack
>nah instead of flat out alpha-ing him off the field, better use the same barrage of swords and halberds over and over. Lets not increase our volume now.
>>136326243
>you stupid kids are too weak, go and don't come back
>you still persist yet being so weak? get out of here or I'll kill you the next time
>this is your final warning I'm gonna let you go because theres nothing (supposedly) you can do
>oh fugg I'm ded
>>136326318
>he took shirou slightly less seriously
so much lesser that gilgamesh didn't use his godly chains attack?
>>136323918
3 star :^)
>>136326351
He wouldn't even use his chains on Shirou, the entire battle since the start was a match of sword spam it's even on the anime jesus christ. If Gil used anything else he would be conceding the match because his sword spam would lose to a mere shitty human magus faker. This is why he hesitates on pulling EA.
>>136326370
Berserker is a heroic spirit of massive fame. Shirou is some ginger kid who can make copies of his swords.
Gil is Metallica, Shirou is napster.
>>136326397
>godly chains attack
Yeah, and on Shirou Enkidu would just be a regular chain, since he has no divinity.
>>136326436
>man I really should have wiped this kid off the face of the earth before my finale
>>136326370
Your green text is shit, did you even listened to what the characters were agreeing and saying? To me it seems that you watched it for the pretty animation.
>>136324871
Except Kerry's not even half as cute
>>136326427
How is this anime so hard for you people? You guys can't be this stupid right?
>>136326397
You know Gil values his chains more than Ea right? The damn thing is named after Enkidu, there's no way he'd use against shirou unless he's dragging himself out of a vortex.
>>136326474
>listening to nasu characters speak
lmao, the joke is on you kid
>>136326169
>implying that's no the case
>>136326518
Simply ayy my friend.
>>136326513
I think he was agreeing with me...
>>136326515
>OH FUGG IM ABOUT TO DIE
>not gonna use my finisher because that would upset Ea!
>>136326518
>lmao
Secondaries, everyone.
I've watched all the fate related anime adaptions, played FSN and HA, even read manga and FZ LN.
Is there nothing left to do but fap to doujins and shitpost in the unfailingly god awful nasu threads here?
>>136326523
I want more Tiger and Buruma tbqh
>>136326562
I misquoted I meant it for >>136326370
This nigga my bad.
>>136326513
>some dumb over saturated anime full of plot holes
>nah ur dumb
>>136326684
>being a secondary
>nay ur dumb
>>136326684
The plot holes exist because you are too dumb to understand something a middle schooler could.
>i like jobbers
>>136326727
>YEA NAH, the plot holes were intentionally put there, not to destroy the story, but because you just can't understand it
3deep5me I gues
>>136326718
Put it on your fuckin resume
>>136326752
It's called "read the damn VN".
>>136326752
What are the plot holes man? I am being trolled right?
>>136326795
>I read the VN
>therefore the anime isn't shit
the anime is shit on its own
>>136326820
>Caster, archer, assassin, all leave the MC's to escape purposely multiple times
>gilgamesh not going full hardcore when he knows he's about to lose
>refuses to go HAM despite knowing shirou (unlike ANY other character) is able to negate EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ATTACK
>why didn't gilgamesh just kill 2 birds with one stone and kill shirou right there
>why didn't archer kill shirou right in the beginning if he knew what shirou would be come?
>>136326919
>>why didn't archer kill shirou right in the beginning if he knew what shirou would be come?
Also I know they were in a truce for a while but there were tens of opportunities where they WEREN'T in alliance where archer could have slaughtered shirou but didn't
>>136323918
I just finished UBW.
God, the second half was so dumb. It was like 6 hours long of a guy narrating a woe-is-me concept that we have heard in every single war movie.
Was the author seriously think that discovering the philosophy that some people has to die for the betterment of many actually makes him some sort of a prophet?
Come on, that is like the basic knowledge in every movie that features soldiers and law-enforcement. You don't have to drag it that long.
And don't get me started on the even more stupid fight scenes that features constant barrage of holier-than-thou screamings.
I'm going to drink some hard tonic and watch Love Live just to forget all that idiocy that I just endured
>>136326919
>>Caster, archer, assassin, all leave the MC's to escape purposely multiple times
They all had reasons.
>>gilgamesh not going full hardcore when he knows he's about to lose
>>refuses to go HAM despite knowing shirou (unlike ANY other character) is able to negate EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ATTACK
>>why didn't gilgamesh just kill 2 birds with one stone and kill shirou right there
It would be out of character.
>>why didn't archer kill shirou right in the beginning if he knew what shirou would be come?
Simply killing him isn't what Archer wanted
I'm beginning to think you don't even know what plot hole means. Protip, It's not "things I didn't like".
>>136327088
>They all had reasons.
really shitty ones that revolved around "nah ur too weak, get out of here kid you'll never mount to us!"
Gilgamesh could have flat out, EFFORTLESSLY killed shirou but didn't for NO reason
>>136326397
>Let's use the anti-divine weapon against a kid that has no divinity and can copy weapons
>That totally makes sense because I genuinely want him to copy my chains and fuck me up by tying me with them
This is the average intelligence of a gilfag.
Just because he wasn't taking Shirou seriously doesn't mean he was going to give Shirou a weapon designed to fuck Gilgamesh and other gods/demigods over.
>>136324798
You mean the VN where he got his ass kicked by an uppity teenager?
>>136327113
See>>136327088
>I'm beginning to think you don't even know what plot hole means. Protip, It's not "things I didn't like".
Those might all be things you don't like, but none of them qualify as plot holes.
>>136327113
I am with that anon you are just complaining about shit you just didn't like instead of looking at the whole picture.
>>136327088
>Simply killing him isn't what Archer wanted
Yes it fucking was, Archer hated himself and what his original "ideal" was. In his lunacy he thinks that undoing what shirou would grow up to be by killing him would be the ultimate solution to his guilt and reprise.
It didn't make any sense in any of the situations where Archer engaged Shirou where Archer won and DIDN'T fucking kill him off.
>>136324004
Please try a little harder.
>>136327150
He wanted to break his ideals before killing him, retard.
nice bait thread
>>136327125
He didn't use his chains because he was cocky dude. He just wanted to show how much better his sword spam was compared to a faker.
>>136323918
Because Irish mythology makes for a great basis.
>>136327187
Archer killing shirou would have done both successfully and nothing would have changed.
>>136327208
>Archer killing shirou would have done both successfully
Bait?
>>136327197
And because he knows the chains are useless.
Shirou will destroy them like they're made out of paper, even before they get out the gate just like every other weapons Gilgamesh used.
>>136327208
>he serious.
>>136324170
you just like the original anime better because shirou is constantly telling her to go in the kitchen and fix him a sandwhich and she obeys
>>136327262
Funny because not even DEEN made Saber like that, and you're lying if you say they did because I have all Fate anime here and watch it at least once a year.
>>136327260
>>136327231
>If I just kill my past self then all of my guilt will be undone
He literally wanted to fucking kill him, you guys are fucking retarded trying to confuse this garbage for some kind of diplomatic and propaganda bullshit archer was supposedly trying to force down shirou. Archer was blatantly fascist and knew what shirou would grow up to be and even though Archer was a guardian and nothing would change since he was already admitted, archer wanted to completely erase that from his memory so he used his anger and hate against shirou but for some fucking reason never wanted to finish the job and left him live with a sliver of his life because "reasons"
>>136324970
Yes, red saber is best girl.
>>136327348
>>136327460
>Nero*
>>136327348
Even the anime spells it out to you several times.
>>136327528
>>136327528
BY FUCKING KILLING HIM
why all the banter if all he was going to do is kill shirou to put his former self out of his inevitable misery. Nothing would be different if shirou died by archer or was some how moved by archers internal gripe.
>>136327604
It would be a lot more satisfying for Archer if he could break Shirou's ideals.
>>136327604
The banter was him taking out his anger. That's all it was for Archer, anger therapy.
He didn't want to "spare Shirou that pain" and he knew the whole "paradox myself out of existence" plan was probably not going to work to begin with, so it was just stress relief.
>>136324855
Reread what you wrote. Look how retarded that sounds.
>>136327604
>Watching comprehension this shit
>>136327604
Why don't shitposters try with their baits?
I mean i'm replying to you at least giving you a chance you have some decent argument but you're just pathetic man.
>>136327775
>getting baited and can't stop replying
>LOL UR SO PATHETIC I OWN U XD
>>136327793
>merely pretending
>>136327775
You literally posted nothing but "lol you don't get it" meanwhile I spelled out why the whole line was a load of crap and inevitably a plot hole because it didn't make sense that if Archer knew that the paradox was completely faux in the first place and nothing would have changed then why go through all the effort. Counter-negatively, if he felt the paradox would unfold his former self by either killing him off or somehow convincing his stubborn self that it was all some dumb lie he fabricated in the name of being a "hero of justice" (none of which had anything to do with justice btw). Further more if Archer had truly convinced himself that changing the ideals of someone he explicitly has no connection to, since by the explaination as a guardian he is completely immune to any logic of time flow, then ANY and ALL efforts on shirou are completely useless and a waste of time. Its almost like archer and shirou are 100% completely different people since they are so exclusive.
>>136327950
Other people seriously replied to you but you ignored them since you're just here to shitpost.
>>136323918
Cu's even better in Hollow Ataraxia. Just like Rider.
>>136323918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpz5WgRlGLM
>>136328022
>they all replied but you ignored them
>>136327088
>lol they just had "reasons"
>no reasons cited
>latter green text is "it would be out of character" but doesn't exemplify how intelligence is tied to that inference
>>136327125
>LOL UR JUST A GILFAG
>>136327144
>NO YOU JUST DON'T LIKE IT
>no latter explanation at all
>>136327231
>>136327260
>lol this is bait!
Yea this is some kind of "response crew" alright, nothing valuable in the least and I am the shit poster?
Shiki can kill Gilgamesh.
>>136328172
Nice derailment. You replied to>>136327775
saying
>You literally posted nothing but "lol you don't get it"
In this post>>136327950
The post that guy was replying to is>>136327604
The first 2 replies
>>136327657
>>136327646
Were serious replies which you chose to ignore then and are choosing to ignore in>>136328172 because you are a shitposter.
inb4 >I was merely pretending
>>136328172
I want to believe this is bait because i cant believe someone that know the story didnt get the meaning between the fight between Archer/Shirou
>>136324004
muh
fucking
african bretheren
>>136328509
That Saber is shit tier.
>>136328595
At least UBW made Saber even more moe.
>>136328871
Bro but the rhinos XD lol
>>136325811
dude, every route is a continuity from zero
>>136330608
Zero is not even mainline
>>136330906
>mainline
Does this even exist anymore?
>Deermutt
>best character
>>136323918
you saved yourself with those last 7 words
>>136330906
How does Order fit in storywise?
>>136331145
>Sees pic
>Asks dumb question
Do I need to reply?
>>136331459
It's not about 'lines' or universe, it's literally about products
Reminder that Urobuchi is a hack who can't write for shit
>>136323918
Iskander coolest bro, best servant, finest man. Would follow to the end of the world.
