>fanservice is bad
>>136268417
Well, I wouldn't say it's necessarily bad, but it shouldn't be a selling point, look at it that way.
Agreed, if fanservice is gonna be the selling point they might as well watch hentai.
>>136270304
But that's exactly what fanservice is, a selling point. I'd argue that it shouldn't get in the way of the ambientation/story though.
>>136270434
>If you wanna see tits, go watch hentai
>This argument again
By that logic, we should remove sex and/or sexual content alike from any movie that isn't porn.
>>136270434
Yes usually newfags mistakes. anime is more of plot driven than fan service. If they like fanservice so much they always can watch hentai or ero manga but otaku choose not
>>136270434
Fanservice is not the same as hentai. I don't watch it in place of hentai or vice-versa. People should not still be making this mistake.
>>136270571
wrong totally wrong. sex is part of the important storyline don't use your hentai logic here please
>>136270571
When the sex in that movie happens every 5 minutes, maybe we should.
>>136270571
Having sex in your movie/anime/whatever is different than having sex be the main selling point of it like most fan service anime.
If its whole purpose is so dudes can jack off to it, then it's literally just softcore porn. In which case, just go watch some actual fucking porn and stop wasting your time with garbage.
>>136270649
>sex is part of the important storyline
Oh, please, usually at least 50% of the purpose of a movie's sex scene is titillation.
Someone better give some examples of what shows have it as a "selling point," because people have different ideas of that and this conversation is pointless unless we clarify.
>>136270796
There's many movies out there that aren't porn but are literally full of sexual innuendo.
>>136270825
Fanservice is very rarely the main selling point of a anime. Not even Monogatari, which is literally filled with fanservice, has it as its selling point
>>136270835
Mostly you consumed far too much hentai in your life and fucked up now
>>136270504
Umm, no. Fanservice by definition is a bonus, a side-dish. In theory anyway.
>>136270571
That's desingenuous though. When we talk about fanservice you automatically imply gratuitous T&A, which, you know, it is what it is. If the sex scenes/sexual stuff is central to the plot or a consequence of it then it's not fanservice and we're having a different conversation.
>>136270835
Titilation isn't necessarily bad though. It's part of the human experience. But when it feels gratuitous or out of place on the context of what you are seeing, then it's inapropriate.
Reminder to always report crossboarders who post 3DPD.
>>136270835
>Replying to obvious bait
>>136270947
>Titilation isn't necessarily bad though. It's part of the human experience.
I could say the same thing to defend the vast majority of fanservice in anime.
>>136270925
I jacked off to Shame before I'd ever seen hentai. I think I was fucked up early on.
>>136270947
>out of place on the context of what you are seeing
But isn't that the exact opposite of it being the focus or selling point of the show?
>Umm, no. Fanservice by definition is a bonus, a side-dish. In theory anyway.
First off, fuck back to tumblr with your "ummm"s. Second off, you just made up your fucking theories and definitions on the spot. There's no rules about that, and it doesn't apply to a good number of shows or viewers, so I say it's a worthless definition.
>>136271005
Yes. That's why it's always a minefield to talk about such broad concepts as "fanservice".
My personal stance is that as long it doesn't get in the way of what I'm looking for in the anime/manga, I can tolerate it. General rule, I don't like it.
Fanservice does not refer just to sex or sexualization, it also refers to any kind of pandering towards the fanbase. I'm saying this because it's funny that people ignore literally every other instance of fanservice when they aren't related to sex. It just goes to show how people who cry about fanservice are always babies ashamed of sex.
>>136271143
Just treat it as a separate use of the word and stop griping about the specifics.
>>136271185
Nice job missing the point.
>>136271024
>worthless definition
It's literally in the word you fucking retard. That being said, if the show's selling point is boobs and shit it's not longer fanservice but just ecchi.
>>136271024
>But isn't that the exact opposite of it being the focus or selling point of the show?
Yes. That's my point. It shouldn't be a selling point.
>First off, fuck back to tumblr with your "ummm"s
Wow, touchy are we?
> Second off, you just made up your fucking theories and definitions on the spot. There's no rules about that, and it doesn't apply to a good number of shows or viewers, so I say it's a worthless definition.
Ok, you are right, I guess, but it's implied in the fucking word that it's not a integral part of the work it's in. It's just a bone thrown for the fans.
>>136271024
>I jacked off to Shame before I'd ever seen hentai. I thinkI was fucked up early on.
So you're born gay good to know. I think you're lost and stranded on /a/ we have the most appropriate board for you >>>/lgbt/. /a/ is actually your worst choice.
>>136271233
> it's not longer fanservice but just ecchi
Are you the same fucking person I talked to about this a few days ago? These are not mutually exclusive terms.
>>136271228
He didn't miss the point.
Everyone here knows exactly what OP meant by fanservice (ie he meant the sexual kind).
>>136271024
>I jacked off to Shame before I'd ever seen hentai. I think I was fucked up early on.
You have some critical illness that we don't know?
>>136271293
>Wow, touchy are we?
Either learn /a/ culture or fuck off.
>Yes. That's my point. It shouldn't be a selling point.
Then why are you complaining about its "out of place" usage? You have issues with it when it's the main focus but also when it's sprinkled in. It seems like you just don't like it in general, and you're trying to advocate that while appearing more impartial.
>Ok, you are right, I guess, but it's implied in the fucking word that it's not a integral part of the work it's in. It's just a bone thrown for the fans.
It's not. This is not how fucking words work, and even if it were, all that would mean were that you were using the word to refer to things it didn't refer to and then complaining that they weren't the things it was meant to refer to.
God, I hate normalfags.
>>136271342
Again, you're missing the point.
The point is that people always ignore other kinds of fanservice and just focus on the sexual aspect.
Well, it depends on the amount of fanservice and the kind of it.
Phantom World, for example, does it in a shit way.
Personally, I think that making a 800 years old character virgin is a much more offensive fanservice than showing boobs.
>>136271301
>Shame
>gay
What? I wasn't jacking off to the scenes of the guy jacking it, if that's what you're thinking.
People who complain about fanservice should just stop watching Anime. It's in almost every series so you're probably not going to enjoy Anime very much if drawings of the human body makes you so uncomfortable.
>>136270434
If you honestly think this is an actual argument and you're not just baiting you should stop posting immediately and go watch more fucking anime, holy shit.
Actually scratch that. In general grow up and gather more experiences from different mediums. Maybe then you'll understand why this type of black or white arguments is nonsensical retardation.
Shows are only as good as the fans allow it to be.
Remind me what website I'm on.
I only have a problem with it when it ruins a potentially good show that didn't need all this fan service.
>>136271411
It also depends on the type of show that you're watching. For example, excessive fanservice would be a little out of place in something like Lain or Kaiji, but it fits things like Monogatari or FLCL.
>>136271432
Not him btw. why a mere drawing trigger you so much. i found it weird and irrational.
>>136271527
It would be a disservice with those Kaiji designs.
>>136271571
Did you reply to the wrong guy? I have no problem with fanservice.
>>136271508
Same. I don't mind fanservice at all when it doesn't ruin the atmosphere or consistency of a show.
>>136271605
>It would be a disservice with those Kaiji designs.
Kaiji doujin when?
>>136271508
>>136271612
Give examples.
>>136271612
Again, people need to name the shows they're thinking of where inappropriate fanservice is used.
>>136271718
Reported. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>136271822
announcing reports is against the rules too you know
>>136271392
>Either learn /a/ culture or fuck off.
Are you that mad about an inconsequential little word?
Anyway.
>Then why are you complaining about its "out of place" usage? You have issues with it when it's the main focus but also when it's sprinkled in. It seems like you just don't like it in general, and you're trying to advocate that while appearing more impartial.
To be clear, since it seems to be important to you: I don't like fanservice in general. More often than not it takes me out of whatever is going on and is transparent pandering. There it is very clearly spelled out.
That being said, I can tolerate it if
a) the show is good enough on it's own that I'm willing to sit through that shit.
and
b) If it doesn't completely brake the show. Let's take an extreme example and say there's a beach episode in the middle of ergo proxy. That's what I mean by out of place. If you get fanservice that is completely contradictory to the tone of the show/specific episode/moment.
>It's not. This is not how fucking words work, and even if it were, all that would mean were that you were using the word to refer to things it didn't refer to and then complaining that they weren't the things it was meant to refer to.
You are seriously just grabbing at straws by now, I don't even.
>>136271396
Well, why do you think that is? because there's where most "controversy" lies.
The only anime where fanservice is excessive are shitty harems and honestly, if you're watching those without expecting fanservice you're a idiot.
>>136271605
No, i don't i think you're in denial. If you're not triggered you won't complain that hard, though.
>there are people
>alive right now
>not crotchety old people, but young blood
>who are SO american
>that they ACTUALLY believe that fanservice somehow diminishes the quality of a work
>they cannot justify this belief and never will never do anything but sputter when confronted with the truth
>they're on this very board right now
>>136271718
Bake is great though. You're missing out. This is coming from someone who isn't really the biggest fan of fanservice.
>>136271888
>why do you think that is?
It's mainly because people get uncomfortable with sexual content more than anything else.
I bet that half of the people who complain about fanservice are americans.
>a boy falls in love with a girl
>>136271888
>Are you that mad about an inconsequential little word?
Again, fuck off. What's "inconsequential" on your shit site is important here.
> I don't like fanservice in general. More often than not it takes me out of whatever is going on and is transparent pandering.
Then this conversation is pointless. If it's a natural downside for you, then we're not discussing how well it's done, we're discussing how easy it is for you to ignore it.
>You are seriously just grabbing at straws by now, I don't even.
No, arguing that something is bad because it doesn't obey the definition of a word is beyond retarded, you fucking idiot. Words are not prescriptive.
How can fanservice even make you feel uncomfortable? Do you watch anime with your grandparents?
>>136271895
No harem actually has fluid balance and blend betwen plot and fanservice. Your newbness is bad to be used as measure of fanservice in anyway possible.
>Fanservice makes normalfags uncomfortable
>Meanwhile, they watch shit like Game of Thrones, which has tits and asses, sex and people undressing every fucking minute.
Hilarious.
>>136271888
>I don't even.
Go back where ever you cam from.
>a boy falls in love with a girl
So a janitor deleted the picture instead of telling a mod to ban the 3DPD posting retard.
Just great.
>>136270571
>pay the price of a movie for a quick censored sex scene.
Are you potato?
>>136272264
Can't janitors delete stuff nowadays?
>>136272310
>paying for movies
Are you in your fifties or something?
>>136272310
What are you even on about
>>136272004
I'm European though. It's not that sexual stuff makes me uncomfortable, it's that it's a very strong human emotion(?), being one of our most basic instincts, so when it happens you are definitely aware of it, and if it's not what that particular scene is about, it more often than not diminishes or distracts from the point of said scene because sexual tones usually override more subtle ones.
Again, it's all context dependent.
>>136272039
>Again, fuck off. What's "inconsequential" on your shit site is important here.
I literally never entered Tumblr or Reddit or any of that shit, but whatever, I'm done with this shit.
> then we're not discussing how well it's done, we're discussing how easy it is for you to ignore it.
For me, how well it's done and how well I can tolerate it are synonimous.
>No, arguing that something is bad because it doesn't obey the definition of a word is beyond retarded, you fucking idiot. Words are not prescriptive.
k
>>136272379
>He doesn't support the industry.
Leave
>>136272399
Lern2reed
>>136272454
Are you retarded?
>>136272491
No you
>>136272052
Was this ever about being uncomfortable or not?
>>136272310
But you're not watching the movie for the sex scene.
>>136272454
Do you pay for fucking CR or something, too? And do you expect anyone on the anime board to give a shit about the Western live-action movie industry?
>>136272577
I pay your mom for sex she needs the money to support your broke neetass
>>136272432
>if it's not what that particular scene is about
But you're complaining about it being the main focus, too. Also, cite examples already, for fuck's sake.
>For me, how well it's done and how well I can tolerate it are synonimous.
But your goal seems to be for the show to more enjoyable by putting the fanservice out of your mind, not for the fanservice itself to be more enjoyable.
>>136272638
>no, ur mom
we're /v/ now?
>>136272537
It's really the only reason I watch movies for diamond cutting abs and huge perky tits.
>>136272679
Dont reply to me unless you have something meaningful to say.
>>136272686
>It's really the only reason I watch movies for diamond cutting abs
>>>/hm/
>>136270571
>sex scene is related to the story and usually has foreshadowing
>Random epic panty shots are just for otakus to jack it to
you see this difference?
>>136272741
They show sexually exciting material for the purpose of being sexually exciting. You're an idiot if you believe otherwise. You're already an idiot for your obsession with story, but that's a different matter.
>>136272638
Jokes on you, my mom's a man. I bet you sucked that dick real good, faggot.
>>136272838
He sucked my dick homo. I'm not gay, that still makes you a broke ass neet
>>136272730
Nice meme.
>>136272915
Made you reply
>>136272942
>>136272972
Baited again!
>>136272741
It's the same fucking shit. Game of Thrones shows people having sex, or nude girls at every fucking second.
>muh it has context to the setting
Yeah, the series needs to remind me every 5 minutes that people used to fuck a lot in medieval times. It also needs to always show a character without clothes because you know, it has context!
>>136272877
>I'm not gay
That's not what your asshole was telling me considering it was gaped. How about you drop by the house again and give me a good BJ
>>136272998
You are just a master at this, anon!
>>136273028
>>136272877
>>136272838
>>136272638
Quality posting.
>>136273028
That would make you gay you idiot...
>>136272660
>But you're complaining about it being the main focus, too
Where did you get this from? If you are watching Highschool of the dead or whatever, then of course it's all fanservice and it's obviously not for me and I don't watch it so it doesn't bother me. That was never my fight. When you are watchin, I 'unno, NGNL for example, and you are promised a fun action-ish anime about games and smart one -ups and shit, and then you watch it and literally the first shot of the first episode is a pantyshot of a 12 or 13 yo or whatever and then the show proceeds to have a skewed fanservice/smart game action ratio there's a problem for me, because that wasn't what I wanted to watch.
>But your goal seems to be for the show to more enjoyable by putting the fanservice out of your mind, not for the fanservice itself to be more enjoyable.
Yes because (for me at least), fanservice is by definition unnecessary fat for the sake of itself. But I understand why it's there so I learned to deal with it and I can tell when it's well made fanservice and poorly made fanservice. The metric being how unintrusive it is.
>>136272679
I browse both boeards about equally and I never understood this thing which seems to be exclusively /a/ doing.
Literally never felt a difference between the two apart from the subject matter, which isn't even that different most of the time.
And /a/ has significantly less "tbqh senpai", which I guess is a plus.
>>136273303
Literally this tbqh sempai
>>136273303
You're probably new if you think like this. I love vidya and trust me, shitposting is much more prevalent on /v/.
>>136273303
/v/ is only good for discussing porn.
>>136273381
I haven't been on either board not nearly long enough to pick a fight about it but I honestly don't think it's that unbalanced.
>>136270571
i completely agree. watched clannad and nobody even fucking kisses? honestly sex as a taboo needs to go
>>136273504
>Clannad
Kyoani is prudish as fuck.
>>136273504
>>136273889
Ok, so this is my problem with fanservice. I think.
It really bothers me that in one show you can show pretty much anything as long as there's no explicit sexual contact between two characters but you can't have two characters kiss without it being one of those "woops, I slipped" or being the fucking finale and this big deal.
>>136274139
yeah i mean i absolutely love after story but it felt unnatural for them to not kiss forreal
>>136272031
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>>136272031
>unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number
>>136274585
You motherfucker.
>>136272031
>>136272246
>>136271956
Aspect more of this as "anime & manga" reach the limits of "pop culture"AK normal faggotry
>>136274585
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>shitposting is allowed
>>136275048
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>>136275154
Sorry, I accidently shifted one to the right on my keyboard.
>>136275318
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>>136272031Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>136275355
msmo
ITT: Secret Code Fanservice
>>136274585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QfMPWG_Gao
>>136275146
Fuck off reddit
>>136276012
N... No.
>>136274585
>>136275936
>>136275936
kek
>>136274982
>Aspect
>AK
Damn anon get your shit together
>>136272031
>>136274654
>never minding the strange code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well
Anti-fanservice fags need to go back to Gaia.
>>136278137
This is g/a/ia, faggot.
