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Why are the strategic characters usually the best characters in the series?
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Because they can pull off crazy shit.
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>Why are characters whose actions are well though off instead of acting like apes doing actions at the heat of the moment better?
Jeez, I wonder, OP.
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>>136012570
>gook shit

Kill yourself.
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>>136012976

My one fault with the OO anime is that the last match wasn't anywhere near as hype as the 1st and 2nd.
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>>136013063
Tower of God is great, unlike your bait. Responding for the benefit of any lurkers who might mistake your shitpost for something similar to a legitimate opinion.


As for OP, Khun is the best character in the series. His recent showing where he totally embarrassed Rachel was one of my favorite moments of any battle series. So hype.
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>>136013063
Now is that huh?
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>>136012570
Strategic characters are usually the biggest mary sues after the protag from what I've noticed. The author can insert himself there to fix all the problems with a quick bullshit if he needs too.
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>>136012570
I love how he's just been completely mentally reaming her ass this entire arc. First the during the sweetfish game and now pic related.
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I hate those characters that always bullshit out of anything with a plan they think of on the fly.
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>>136013338
>I love how he's just been completely mentally reaming her ass this entire arc. First the during the sweetfish game and now pic related.

And in the end he'll get fucked in the ass.

I'm still baffled how people don't get this by now, 5 years into the story

YOU DON'T MESS WITH RACHEL. I mean the whole lot of bad things happen because faggots think they can outsmart her and they end up paying later. Mocking her won't bring Kun anything good.
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>>136013338
My only worry is that it's going to backfire on him soon. Rachel needs to be bolstered as super evil bitch again before she finally gets her comeuppance.
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>>136013260
>Tower of God was great

ftfy, second season has been shit pretty much all the way through
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>>136013606
I'm sick of this meme, you gonna say the powerlevels were retarded as well?
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>>136013606
It's been looking up recently. Baam finally overcame his season 2 edginess once and for all and is kicking ass, and the aforementioned wrecking of Rachel by Khun.
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Because bruteforce story is written too much and its the easiest to write about. Writing a story with strategic or rather intelligent character utilizing intelligence takes a lot of patience and calculations. With so many writers being hacks, the beautiful ones are the ones that try to bring out the intelligent character to the front.
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>>136013606
At this point I'm only reading because the first season got me so invested. I don't look forward to it anymore. I used to stay up and read the raws as soon as they came out even thought I couldn't understand a lick of circle scrawl. All of that drive is gone now, but I'm still holding out, hoping to see the S1 cast (or Mazino) again.

Why do webtoons always have a habit of starting off strong and turning into shit after ~100 chapters?
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>>136013647
It's not a meme. Everything after S1 has been a trainwreck. Author keeps throwing shitloads of characters into the pot, taking away time and character development from character's we've actually gotten attached to. The problem is that the author doesn't seem to have any idea how to advance plot WITHOUT adding new characters.
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Stick in 1 fucking thread gook
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>>136013044
Well incompetent fools who break their way through strategies with sheer determination are also fun.
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>>136013605
>Rachel
>Evil

Do you read this shit or you just look at the colors and pretty lights they shoot from their hands?

I won't say ToG is 2D4U but the characters are not
>Good
>Evil

I can barely think of a 1 dimensional character, and Rachel who SIU develops more than any other character Baam asides is definetely not 1 dimensional.
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>>136013797
>people who don't read Tower of God but want to shit talk it
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>>136013766
I don't know about you but I always enjoy series way more when I'm marathoning them and then less so when I catch up. Could have something to do with that.
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>>136013851
She pretended to be lame for years just to trick Khun into working for her, and then killed and maimed her "friends" when they figured it out. Also she attempted to kill Baam, her lifelong friend, out of pure selfishness. Maybe your idea of evil is different than mine philosophically speaking, but she is objectively a huge cunt.
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>>136013852
But I have read it. I'm even sort-of following it, coming back to it every few months to read complete arcs without waiting for new chapters every week.

You just seem to want a "discussion" that's just circlejerking over how good the series is
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When they get off the hell train are they gonna be on the 42nd floor where Enryu killed that Guardian?
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>>136014055
It's the 43rd Floor.
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>>136013798
Got 3 already.
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>>136013978
Although I too really like the series, a lot of ToG fans have always had this weird superiority complex.

I thought it'd die down after the series lost popularity, but I guess not.
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It's too late for baam to finish his revolution training once the train stops right?
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>>136014221
No, he can come back and finish at any time, it's just the way things progress won't allow him.
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Gookshit has 3 (THREE) threads.
Good job, mods.
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>>136014264
Doesn't the train get locked off though?
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>>136013977
>Your idea

It's not my idea you retard, the whole story is filled with characters with their own ambitions and goals, Rachel is not "evil" by story standards, SIU has already said Rachel is not "evil" and if you've read the fucking thing you would've realize there's a reason she doesn't want Baam to go into the tower as she repeats every fucking time before acting like a cunt to clearly cover up the reason.

Honestly you sound like one of those LINE webtoon comment fags that don't look at the story at all and don't try to realize there's a huge plot point in Rachel finding Baam when he lived in that underground shit or whatever it was.
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>>136014322
Now that we know what the true purpose of the train is and that FUG is in control of it, it's hard to say. The ticket isn't hard to get anyways.
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>>136014339
Nah man, she's an evil cunt. You might be evil too, if that isn't blatantly obvious to you.
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>>136014339
>she doesn't want Baam to go into the tower

Not him but the way she smiled when baam said "I'll follow you anywhere" kinda suggests otherwise.
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>>136014339
People use the wrong word. She's an antagonist is what they mean.
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>>136014339
Still stabbed Dan and killed the bird though. At the very least she's completely psycho, and completely willing to backstab people who have done nothing to wrong her.
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>>136014339
>The end justifies the means

lol cute
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>>136014471
When does the end not justify the means?
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>>136014518
Autist detected
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>>136014464
And Baam is a huge autistic Yandere that goes insane with the simple mention of Rachel.

I don't think you should judge ToG characters by RL standards, they're all weird as fuck. The world they live in is weird as fuck.

The most normal guy is Wangnan.
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Need my boy to show up again.
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>>136014664
It's hilarious how he's maining a pipe now. Doesn't help that every swordsman we've seen so far is better than Hatsu.
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>>136014597
But people love Yandere, /a/non. Nobody loves a backstabbing bitch.
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>>136014597
He sure makes friends easy for an autist. And I imagine you'd have some mixed feelings too if the only person you knew for the first decade or so of your life tried to kill you and some of your new friends. Other than that, Baam is nice to everyone he meets unless they threaten his friends.


Rachel, on the other hand, has shown us time and again that she cares only about herself and is so obsessed with some goal as vague as "see the stars" that she will kill or hurt anyone if she perceives that it will help her I that goal. How you can read ToG and not completely despise her is totally beyond me.
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>>136014597
I always find it funny how Baam tries to change after everything but when it comes down he always goes back to the same guy he was before.

I guess it makes sense, after all he's forcing himself and growing bit by bit also Rachel means the world to him so even when he says
>I will stop her
He won't really harm her or anything in the end. It's an interesting dynamic, most authors always make MCs change their minds pretty quickly but Baam is pretty much obsessed(yes obsessed) and it's a part of the story and his character.

>>136014717
Hatsu will shine eventually
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That giant guy is an Irregular?
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>>136014872
Quant though he was because he was so strong, later it turns out he's just a regular hired by Headon and is probably part of FUG too.
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>>136014807
It's like you didn't read my posts huh.

Either you're retarded or just pretending.
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>>136012570
Because they're not fucking retards.
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>>136014807
>Rachel, on the other hand, has shown us time and again that she cares only about herself and is so obsessed with some goal as vague as "see the stars" that she will kill or hurt anyone if she perceives that it will help her I that goal. How you can read ToG and not completely despise her is totally beyond me.
Are you even reading the things you're replying to?
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Sometimes I forget Rak is strong as shit
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>>136015010
He's been jobbing a fucking lot though. I'm still mad SIU uses him mostly for comedic relief and makes him stay as a Chibi all the time, it's cute but still kinda annoying at some moments.
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>>136015010
Rak is even stronger when you realize he tanked Yihwa's flames back during the Workshop battle when he was holding the guy's mouth closed.
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>>136014717
If he's still using it, then that pipe must be made of some really strong shit.
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>>136012570
ERU ERUFU?
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>>136013260
>Tower of God is great, unlike your bait. Responding for the benefit of any lurkers who might mistake your shitpost for something similar to a legitimate opinion.
Regardless of its quality, it is neither anime nor manga.
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I hate how ToG has a big spotlight on 1v1 fights and such, the first season had a big emphasis on teamwork, using abilities to your tactical advantage, and roles, Now every other fight is a fight between high power levels, while minor characters keep other minor characters "busy" with no regard to teamwork.
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>>136014944
I am definitely reading them and nothing you've said has in any way been anything other than a shitty opinion of why a morally reprehensible character is somehow anything but that.
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>>136015099
It was in a really famous ship and all, but Hatsu can fill the pipe with shinsoo instead of having a blade, I figure that's the reason it's better.
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>>136015160
there is a reason these thread not disappear instantly
because mods allow/tolerate manhwa and manhua
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>>136015204
SIU has just gotten too lazy to draw multiple characters in succession. You can tell because now half his panels are just shots of a quarter of a character's face.
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How big will Baam's party be when everyone joins up together?
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>>136014993
Please point out the inaccuracies in what I'm saying.
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>>136015287
>too lazy
He talks about it in his blog. His wrist is getting jacked again from going too full force detailed the past few chapters.
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ToG turned into shit for a while now
Nobelese is better
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>>136015397
Dice and Redstorm is better than both.
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>>136015301
Over 30 people. It's more like an organization now.
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>>136015397
Don't get me wrong, I love noblesse, but it really just boils down to characters jobbing until Rai and Frankenstein show up to save the day, and it's taking a long while this time around.
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I don't read ToG but the concept is intriguing. Are there any manga with a similar concept/premise that I could check out?
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>>136015471
God I hope a bunch of them die. A party is enough, I'm not gonna follow a whole guild.
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What the fuck is her hidden agenda?
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>>136015208
So you lacking reading comprehension makes me the one with a shitty opinion

Read the chapters they see each other again, Rachel looks at Baam and then she wavers and lowers her gaze, after a few seconds she suddenly interrupts him from trying to talk her out of what she's doing and starts acting like a cunt telling him to STOP going up the tower, she literally tells him he needs to stop following her up the tower and when he starts again talking she cuts his dialogue again and tries to hurt him with words to disencourage him.

Then he goes insane and says
>I don't want to accept that, it's unnacceptable


I'm done replying to you, you can't even into reading comprehension
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>>136015528
make intense love with BAAM
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>>136012570
this cunt should have died long ago along with tons of other characters
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>>136015522
ToG world and stuff always reminds me of Nasuverse actually.

There's a whole lore behind the universe and the "tower" is just a part of Talze User Story.
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>>136015639
Exis thing is retarded though and I hope he never brings it in the series.
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>>136015639
Yeah? I really dig meta-lore too so that's pretty cool.
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>>136015522
not much other than stuck in game/reborn in magical world stories
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>>136015254
>because mods allow/tolerate manhwa and manhua
And mod just deleted gook and chink thread some week ago
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/135344734/
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/135347155/
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/135291351/
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>>136015533
>I notice things others dont
>It's ok that she kills people because her mysterious eye movements prove that there is MORE TO HER
>Ignores the maniacal laughter and stated hatred/jealousy of Baam
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>>136015685
Exis do not really belong in the story, they're gods that write their own story. Phantaminum is pretty much the only Exis in ToG and he's not a character nor does he really play a part in the setting asides from being it's creator(maybe).

There's confirmation majority of Axes are outside the tower though, they're part or creators of other stories. The whole thing is weird.
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>>136015829
Why do you care so much? Can't you just ignore this thread just like you would a thread of any other series you don't read?
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>>136015830
Everyone in the tower kills people.

Did you even pay attention to the whole Lurker thing?

Not saying that Rachel isn't an evil bitch, but if she's one, so is Androssi and Hwaryun.

Yeon seems to be pretty pure though.
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>>136015829
>>136015829
Newfag mod, Moot said back in the day Manhwa is ok since it doesn't belong in /co/ and it's pretty much the same as manga.
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>>136015881
>whoah people posting Avatar, video game, /tv/, /co/ thread on /a/, i should hide it
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>>136012570
I like it when the MUH ANALYSIS MUH STRATEGY guy gets beaten, either by the enemy preying on their dependence on data or raw incalculable power.
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>>136015738
Every floor is its own world. That's a lot.
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>>136015940
>What's next, people marrying their CARS???
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>>136015929
>Moot said
It's just some mod on /q/, get your shit straight newfag
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>>136015847
Yeah I read a bit about it and how Phantaminum is the Top 5 ones.

Whole thing just seems nonsense to me though but I'm still curious as to why Phantaminum spared Jahad and Yuri while killing all the top rankers in the palace.
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>>136015929
>newfag calling other newfag
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>>136015738
Shit. If it helps, I'd say it's more the progress through X place (in this case, the Tower) to find/achieve Y mcguffin at the end (or top) that is a bit interesting to me. Hopefully that makes sense. I can't explain it better nor think of any already-existing similar stories off the top of my head.
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>>136016021
Just another one of many mysteries that SIU will likely never get around to explaining before his wrist injury cripples him forever.
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>>136016021
Probably because Jahad and Yuri are important to the story. Yuri has been involved with pretty much the whole story so far because she's too young for a lot of the events and is too old to be with the main cast. Phantaminum's thing happened ~1-500 years ago because Yuri is only that old. Therefore all the other irregulars entered only within a 500 year period.
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But comedic characters are the best.
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>>136015920
I'll agree that there's degrees of morality at play, but so far Rachel seems to be the farthest in the "bad" category, or at least is the most insidious.
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Where do people get the information that Urek was chasing after Phantaminum?
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>>136016223
From SIU's blog.
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One piece and Index will end before this series even gets to the 77th floor.
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Because they are intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor like me
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>>136016258
Unlike Index and One Piece, Tower of God can timeskip travels.
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>>136016232
You know which chapter ? Not trying to read alll of them at the moment.
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>>136015481
>Noblesse
Is pic related relevant again or just never ever?

I just want him and Seira together, fuck Rael's a huge retard.
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>>136016495
Never ever. I don't know for certain but I'm pretty sure we haven't even seen him in years.
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>>136016397
It was a long time ago when TheCompany had them, so I can't pinpoint you. It was more of a setting post more so than a blog post, but it was on his secret blog that only invited users could get into. All it really mentions is that there's a rumor that Urek Mazino followed Phant into the tower.
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>>136016623
Just fuck off back to reddit already you dumb casual.
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>>136016646
>reading gookweb comic
>calling people casual
uwot?
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>>136016686
You have to be really fucking stupid to read that shit. Only a casual would be dumb enough. You are the same kind of cancerous fag as narutards.
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>>136016623
>gook shit
>secret blog
MY SIDES
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>>136016623
>secret blog

This is some deviantart tier backyard club house shit. As expected of gook shit. Its shit.
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>>136016174
Pretty sure Khun orchestrated the death or injury of one of his sisters for the sake of another. Rachel is pretty unforgivable but she's not the worst person in the series by a long shot, much less when you realize she's just being used by others and she's effectively useless on her own.
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>>136016875
God people like you are the worst. I wish there was some way that enough readers could indicate that they disapproved of your message so that it would get hidden/pushed to the bottom.
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>>136016096
blackout
alice in the borderland
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>>136016973
>>136016973
Don't like it? back to reddit, this is not your hugbox, gook
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>>136017020
Downvote
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>>>/trash/
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