Does /a/ like All You Need Is Kill?
Is it better than Edge of Tomorrow?
All OP Needs Is To Kill Himself
>>135954569
Haven't read the novel but I heard that the ending is a lot more stupid and nonsensical compared to the movie.
Movie Rita > Manga Rita
It was an enjoyable book. Not the greatest literary work ever but it was a fun read.
>>135955140
I'm the exact opposite. I've only read the novel and heard the the movie's ending shat all over it.
>>135955140
Its the other way around. Movie shoehorned in a happy ending while they had to fight each other to the death in the novel to stop the loop.
>>135955241
Agreed.
>>135955241
>liking 3d more than 2d
>>135955241
She looks twice as buff there then when she was in Sicario.
>>135955341
What does that have to do over which ending makes more sense?
>>135954569
Haven't read the source material but Edge of Tomorrow was actually way better than I thought it was going to be.
Did the movie have this scene?
>>135955408
She did have to walk around in a 40 kg suit for the movie.
>>135955241
Murder yourself dead
>>135955406
>Never touching a woman in real life because mah animu waifu
Kill yourself.
>>135955474
Sadly, no. They completely left out best girl.
>>135955406
Nowhere did I imply that, I merely stated the real life portrayal of Rita was more believable than the manga version. She's supposed to be an elite soldier, not an underweight midget.
Will they ever make an anime adaptation?
>>135954569
the end of the movie made no fucking sense and no critic called it out for that so I don't even know. as usual the original is probably a lot better.
>>135955474
Nope. and let's face it, the battle suits in the movie looks like shit too.
I actuallyboughtthe manga the other day. It was a pretty good read.
Rita a cute.I have no idea how my tags fucked up like that
>>135955852
I don't feel like arguing about it but I think it made sense.
Also I read the Manga first and enjoyed both.
>>135955303
Happy Ending for everyone.
>>135955862
Blame normalfags for not going to see movies if the lead actor's face isn't showing.
Look what happened to Dredd.
>>135955852
>>135955933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYxfo57zSeg
>>135955999
Why can't normalfags appreciate cool helmets?
>>135955999
>not going to see movies if the lead actor's face isn't showing.
That's a thing? How disgusting.
>>135955916
How does the manga compare to the original LN?
>>135955862
The battle suits in the movie look like current prototype for possible battlesuits.
Wait the edge of tomorrow was based on this?
>>135956069
people wanted to know who TR-8R was so badly that they fell for a lie from some unknown actor guy
>>135956069
Of course. Ever notice that in each iron man movies he wears the full suit for like 5-10 minutes too appeal to RDJ fansboys. Even in promo art and BD covers he shows his face.
>>135955999
>>135956048
>>135956069
>Blaming the audience
>Not the actors
I liked both versions. I read the manga first. It had far better designs in all aspects. I have nothing against either ending, but I guess I prefer a good one.
>>135956231
yup
>>135956199
I couldn't tell you since I can't read moon.
It's a shame that LNs haven't been localized yet.
>>135956265
What do the actors have to do with it? They're not the ones buying the tickets.
>>135956265
>actors having a say over what the director and producers want
>>135956284
I can't believe it. Did I miss al the threads about it or something?
>>135956252
That's because RDJ is an ego on two legs who demands that his face is shown.
The manga version of All You Need Is Kill is fucking shit.
Book >= Movie >>>>> Manga
>>135956359
>>135956375
Because the actors wants their faces to be shown.
>>135956376
idk i hardly come on /a/
>>135956450
>>135956402
That doesn't explain the poor box office performance of movies where the MC wears a helmet covering his face.
>>135955417
Haven't read or seen it, but it sounds like the movie contrived a happy ending as opposed to facing the problem at hand.
>>135956316
You don't need to read moon to read All You Need is Kill. It got an English localization.
>>135956551
created a contrived happy ending*
>>135956537
Like what?
>>135956265
>Blaming based tom cruise
>>135956575
Oh, it actually has been localized.
Well I'll get around to reading it one day.
>>135956551
You got it.
>>135956551
More like the movie wrote off the reason why Rika had to die in both the book and the manga. I'd almost rather take the good ending because the sob ending both the other forms have are cliche. Saw it coming the second I read the plot outlines. Least the movie has that nice scene where he greets her at the end. Feels kind of nice.
>>135956551
the movie ending is...he explodes the Omega with grenades and then he wakes up and see's that the Omega was destroyed before he got to the base and he remains a officer and nobody knows that he saved the day
>>135956680
Wait the waifu dies in the manga and book? Dropped.
>>135956680
The sob ending might be cliche, but if you don't follow the cliche and force a happy ending the story no longer works.
>>135956782
I doubt the MC fucking gives a shit if Rika dies if he has to watch her die over a million times.
>oh no, but this time she's gone for good ;-;
>>135956680
>the sob ending both the other forms have are cliche.
This so much. Im sick of all the "Tom Cruise sacrifices himself for the greater good" Movies. Hell in "Mena" he is scheduled to play as someone who does just that.
>not liking all three
Seriously though, that movie is way better than it has any right to be.
>>135955241
Fucking faggot
I enjoyed the movie more, and I came into it super negative thinking it'd be Hollywood cliche shit. Thankfully the movie made sense through to the end, unlike the book which had some weird twists by the end of it.
Book has the clumsy mechanic and big-booby dick-thirsty slut stereotypes though, in case you're into that.
>>135957051
>Book has the clumsy mechanic and big-booby dick-thirsty slut stereotypes
And where do i find more of this stereotype?
>>135956015
yeah, the last 2:30 is what I was referring to in my post. Ruined the movie for me.
>>135956240
Really, part of what made him cool was that he seemed just like an ordinary trooper, showing his face could ruin his badassery a little.
>>135957314
like it just blatantly undermined the entire mechanic that carried 90% of the plot with no explanation. OK.
>take what is supposed to be a hardened soldier
>make her into a tiny moe blob girl
I will never like the manga. It rapes the book material just as hard as the movie, anyone who says otherwise never read the fucking book.
>>135957560
>just as hard as the movie
Go fuck yourself.
>>135957743
>defending this
>>135956402
>>135956450
This isn't true. We relate more to characters when we can see their faces. If Iron Man wore his helmet 80% of the time, it might as well be a sarcastic robot. Pretty much all movies have a need to show the actors face, because the face is almost entirely what people look for in acting. And no it's not just about looks, it's about how the actor expresses emotions.
It's easy to pass it off as "Oh they just want to cash in on this actor," or "The actor probably demanded his face be shown all the time." In reality, it'd probably be easier for them if the actor only had to be on set for half the scenes, since they would be able to just use stunt doubles for the rest.
One of the first things you learn about acting is that when you're up on stage, the audience must be able to see your face at all times. Never turn your back on the audiences unless absolutely necessary. It's why the actor is always facing the audience, even when another character is present.
>>135957840
not defending the manga, that is shit
The movie is GOAT tho, one of the best action scifi of the last years.
>>135957888
the movie was logically incoherent and undermined its own rules
>>135957840
Jesus Christ, that's so bad. Dropped before I even picked it up.
>>135956946
Wow what a semen demon.
>>135956641
Dredd, duh.
>>135957928
Nostalgia Critic tell you that or are you memeing it from someone else?
>>135957840
>judging a manga for one single page
Go back to /a/ neckbeard faggot
Wait...
>>135957928
Shut up, holy shit.
>>135957978
Neither, the ending blatantly rewrites the rules of the time-reset for the sake of a happy ending and destroys the entire film.
Book>Movie >shit>>>>>>>Manga
You have shit taste if you think otherwise.
>>135956680
Why does she have to die?
>>135958061
>He goes back in time some more when he is in contact with the time reseter
I don't know anon it can work, you just have an edge boner.
>>135956402
That's not quite it.
I mean, look at the Iron Man Movies.
First movie: Tony Stark for the first half. The Full Iron Man.
Second Movie: Tony Stark goes through a crisis that ends up with him having to make a new armor so we end up seeing his face a lot more.
Third Movie: Literally Tony Stark all the time. Barely any armor except for that part at the end.
There is a reason for that. If they don't show him out of the armor he's literally getting paid for voice acting. Hollywood wants its money's worth so they keep figuring out ways of keeping him out of the suit.
It's dumb as hell.
Read the manga and watched the movie around the same time, and I still think the movie was handled better. The film focuses on beating the war and surviving it from start to finish, while the manga was mostly about escaping the loop. The simpler plot makes a huge difference while the presentation was just adding icing on the cake; the more brutal deaths, the development of the protag's skills, and the risk-it-all factor were just a lot better than the manga, though to be fair, the manga is much shorter than a hollywood movie.
>>135958160
>and the time reseter magically dies without him killing it
I think you're just a bit stupid.
>>135957928
It's an actual symptom of autism to obsess over small details like this.
>>135956944
What about the graphic novel? It looks like shit yo.
>>135955303
Novel went full grimderp because the author needed the MC to be strong independent male who needs no woman. Movie had a much happier ending and somehow seeing someone else being happy after all the shit they've been through makes them angry and hate the ending.
>>135955474
She was the one who got me to pick this up.
I was so disappointed she was barely there.
>>135958084
Book>Manga>>>>>>Movie
You're a faggot if you think otherwise
>>135958222
>the internal logic of the movie's finale is a small detail
thank /a/
>>135958220
He blows it up faggot. You only had to kill it once.
>>135958260
It really is in the grand scheme of things, yes.
>>135958278
Unless you go back in time, in which case his blowing it up would never have happened. Unless you value a happy ending over a logical one I guess.
>>135958290
in the grand scheme of things my dick will be in ur ass buddy
>>135957051
Answer me, god dammit >>135957300
>>135958290
Whoa, I didn't know that Edge of Tomorrow was based on a Jap LN. Does that mean Tom Cruise likes anime or what?
I kinda wanna check it out now.
>>135958322
>The brain of the creature was connected throughout time
There solved it. Keep that autism in check breh.
>>135958366
He believes something made up and not based in reality by any means but instead of that being anime it's Scientology.
>>135958253
And you're a faggot that only thinks the book and manga is better is because you can SI in the MC. The movie is better once you take your mouth out of Japan's microdick.
>>135958113
The reason why they were looping was because the MC and his waifu both became backup servers for the aliens. There is a more technical explanation for this but we'll go with the simple one for now. In order to stop the loop they needed to kill all other backup servers before killing the main alien. Failing to do so will mean that the aliens can reboot from a surviving backup server and the day will loop. This meant either one of them had to die before they could kill the main alien server and thus end the loop.
>>135954569
I wasn't a big fan of the movie's ending but I realized that while both the movie and novels/manga draw from the same well, they end up telling very different stories. The novel shows the MC hardening and becoming a weapon in a crazy war while the movie shows Tom Cruise redeeming himself and becoming a good guy. Looking at it like that, both endings fit what the story needed and I am okay with that
>>135958358
>the directing was great
>good cast
>pretty good writing throughout
>everything about the movie was pretty good besides the abstract details of how logically sound the ending is
>therefore the film is shit
This is what you sound like
>>135958222
Especially when they use words like 'logically incoherent' and 'undermines' instead of 'didn't make sense' and 'broke'.
Terribly autistic word choices.
>>135958253
There is no way anyone can consider the manga good.
>>135958322
The Omega experiences time in a different way, it's in a different layer of the universe or something, it's not past to future, it's non linear. The fucking Omega dies and passes this time warping bullshit of a power to Cruise, the closest living thing to it.
GET IT
>>135958459
Wouldn't that mean that MC and Waifu had to die?
>>135958401
If it was "connected throughout time" then the entire plot of the movie is paradoxical since the omega would have been dead from the beginning. Nice fanwank "breh".
>>135957858
There is also the fact that the normalfag retards sort of link the bad guys as faceless mooks so the hero doing that doesn't feel right for them
>>135958322
You retard, the Omega suicide upon the start of the final reset because the alternative is to let Cruise have the power of the Omega. Remember, it was the Omega's blood seeping into Cruise's body as its last ditch effort to survive somehow. However, once it realize it gotten into a human's body and humans can take control of the loops, its entire species now risk a human being able to control all of its loops including the ones before they landed on Earth.
>>135958574
>The Omega experiences time in a different way, it's in a different layer of the universe or something,
>>135958606
>I am an expert in how time works
Okay autist.
>>135958550
Better than the movie you fucking normie.
>>135958645
how is that bullshit if the damn thing did this time travel bullshit
>>135958401
THIS
Fucking weebs, jeez
>>135957417
>>135957314
Wasn't it because the test audiences didn't like the original ending so they cahnged, like it happened to I am Legend?
>>135955303
Never watched the movie, but I couldn't get over how in the novel, how the MC didn't just tell Rita to get off the battlefield. Relays had to be nearby to be effective, otherwise there was no reason to have them in a position where they could be destroyed. If she was just not around, MC could have gotten out of the time loop.
>>135958699
I'm not the one who tried to fanwank away the inconsistent time travel mechanics
>>135958599
Some people assume she was bullshiting and saw that as a way to get out of the whole loop bullshit
>>135958702
It really isn't, kill yourself.
>>135958743
So how was the original ending?
>>135958645
That is how it was explained in both the movie and book
>>135958644
So the organism committed suicide to prevent some other organism from killing it in the past? Fascinating.
>>135955862
It makes much more sense though.
There really isn't any need for full body armor when it provides absolutely zero protection. He even says so in the movie when he refuses to put on the helmet.
>>135958795
What's sad is that your autism also leaks in Fate threads. Fucking kill yourself you make them unbearable.
>>135958833
He fucking dies together with the brain
>>135958888
I don't post in fate threads though.
>>135958795
Because we clearly have mastered the science of time travel mechanics in real life and have a database of temporal knowledge to say what is and what isn't fanwanking away the inconsistencies, ya dumbass.
>>135958901
oh that's dull
>>135958931
Why are you bringing real life into discussion of fictional time travel? Your fanwank logic was inconsistent on its own, I don't need to cite non-existent real world time travel knowledge.
>>135958901
I would have preferred this ending for the movie but it was still really great overall.
>>135958864
>they wear full suited body armor in both the manga and book
>it doesn't matter cause one spear is a 40mm bullet and it just kills them anyways
SO INCONSISTENT OH MAN
>>135958860
The Alpha's are linked to the Omega and it had a limited number of days to which it can loop. Now, at this point, you have to wonder, what is the Omega, whose blood it is has seeped into Cruise's character and not an Alpha, linked to? It would make sense as it goes up the hierarchy, the time traveling powers expands as well.
>>135958931
Stop responding to him, you won't get through an actual autist I have seen this type of autism before. Once you ignore it they will know they aren't welcomed.
>>135958999
Eh the movie was a good adaptation of a japanese book too so it was cool in the end, it even makes me hopeful for the Yukikaze adaptation also its bullshit the audiences never liking bitersweet endings
>>135958997
Because I'm sure your version of how time travel mechanic works is way more credible than that other anon's, amirite?
>>135959093
The point is I don't have one; the other anon was trying to provide an alternative to the movie's.
>>135955474
>He said no to this.
For some reason, that scene was really great in both the novel and manga.
>>135959024
In the book the Omega or Antennas as they are called tehre are sort of like the last defense, if they ever encounter a problem that is stoppping them from terraforming a planet they send back in time to a previous iteration of the Omega so it can take actions to bypass this problem, in the movie and book this translates to the Mimics going directly after the MC because they see him as the biggest disturbance in their work
>>135959075
It wasn't as if it could have been a perfect adaptation since it was a Japanese author writing what he thinks how non-Japanese acts. At that point, you might as well just keep the basic outline and let the actual non-Japanese write out how they should act and stuff.
>mfw Cage = Keiji
>w dimension thread
>now this
Some people just can't enjoy a soft sci-fi story. Go watch Primer or something.
>>135958901
Fucking stupid, you haven't read the fucking book at all you twat.
What happens in the end, is that "HE" is the only human on the planet and the vampires become the next evolution of humans and he was essentially killing off the humans. There were people in the new vampire/human hybird order who gave him the chance to escape and leave but he didn't take it, taking the chance they might spare him after he murdered too many vampires before they could evolve.
>>135957888
>>135957936
That page is pretty much exactly how the book described it. She is something like 17 years old since she forged her papers when she enlisted.
And as for the whole why wear armor if it doesnt help is only a thing for the movie. In the book they were swinging around battle axes that if used wrong would end up snapping your spine from inertia even through the suit. They only did what they did in the movie to save CG budget and show toms face more.
>>135959288
I meant the alternate ending to the film you blind retard, we were talking about the fucking movie not the book, jesus christ
>>135959186
Anon, what the book does with its time travelling mechanics has nothing to do with the movie. It's two separate continuities and each have their own way of dealing with it. Both have their own canon to work with, so saying how it's different from the book does not make the movie's explanation any less credible.
>>135955862
Because those suits are the ones we will actually see in our lifetimes.
>>135959375
Because the Omega works the same, they are out of the way and in case something fucks up they send back in time the information to correct the mistake, they are also the key to stopping the loop, seriously how hard is it to grasp a concept that simple? They even start going after the MC when they notice he is the thing that is bringing the trouble to them by attacking a city completely out of teh way of the battlefield just because he is there? Holy fucking shit, is /a/ so fucking dumb it can't understand a simple and dumb scifi?
>>135959120
And my point is, no one has any, so if that anon is able to explain away the so called inconsistencies within the movie, then it's not 'fan-wanking it away'.
>>135959329
Actually, in regards to the movie, the movie ending as we got it fits better. The story itself is different enough that it might as well be just a similar setting. This has to do with the themes that the movie was trying to portray versus the themes the book tried to portray.I thought the book was a better story though.
>>135959212
>That smile at the end
There's nothing better than reuniting with your waifu.
>>135959521
Anon, the fact that the main characters are not the same means that even the so called mimics are the similar in name only. The LN uses the antenna mechanics, the movie does not. Why are you so adamant that the mimics in the LN and the movie must be the same?
>>135954569
Both great for their respective medium, AYNK needs OVAs tbqh
>>135958226
The suit designs are shit.
>>135956944
>that movie is way better than it has any right to be.
Only until they hit the third act. It snowballs downhill at that point. I thought we were going to get Punished Cruz but we just ended up getting Ethan Hunt again.
>>135959652
Why would they not be? The Omega controls the whole army, what else do you want a 1-1 version of them in the movie so you can say they indeed the exact same? What the hell is even your problem with the movie? Is it because it wasn't made by a japanese?
>>135959288
>vampires
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>135959530
>explain away the so called inconsistencies within the movie
>it's not 'fan-wanking it away'.
o-ok man
>>135960038
The vampires that we know today are very different from the original vampires which were closer to zombies. I am Legend uses the more traditional form of vampires as its main antagonists.
>>135960162
>What the fuck are you talking about?
So should I read it (Novel) or watch it first?
Which one is better for first time experience?
>>135960246
Film. More fun.
>>135955241
Fuck you, faggot. Manga Rita was cute.
>>135960107
I believe the keyword here in this argument is 'wanking'. If you can explain it, then why is it considered 'fan-wanking'?
Loop suffering is my fetish
>>135960409
Is there any manga of this? There is just shitty CG and LV?
>>135960246
i personally like to read the source material before watching the adaption to see how they changed it. The only one i didn't come back from hating it was harry potter and the first season of Game of Thrones
>>135959755
Anon, just because they're called mimics doesn't mean they have to act out exactly like the mimics within the LN. The fact that it doesn't use the same power-armor technology, nor the same main characters, nor even the same names for the alien hierarchy (Server/Backups vs Omega/Alpha) is more than enough proof that the mechanics needs not to be the same. The movie made it explicitly clear it's doing its own thing as compared to the LN. Why are you so insistent that it must be the same despite all the differences already?
>>135956265
It's always the audience's fault but it's much easier to blame the smaller group.
>>135960246
Film, it's shorter and funner.
>>135960466
what are you referring to, AYNiK or ML?
>>135960246
Why do you keep posting this image with the same filename and watermark? Nobody on /a/ will call you out anymore.
>>135960239
>I'm not him.
I love the movie to death and got through the manga just fine, but I can't really get through the LN. I started reading it then lost interest.
It's the same with Battle Royale. I loved the movie but didn't really care for the novel that much.
>>135960794
i don't fuckn know, you tell me
why does every one in this sub hate edge of tomorrow so much
>>135961728
>sub
Buy a tank of helium and gas yourself, but not before killing your relatives so your genes are eradicated.
>>135961728
weebs are brats talking about live action media.
>>135961986
fucking reddit man, worse than hitler
>>135961986
wow getting mad over nothing
>>135961728
>sub
MODS
>>135962076
>hitler
>bad
>>135962153
You are objectively a retard.
>>135962217
still getting mad i see
did i hit a nerve huh
>>135962153
>literal faggots are also redditors
Not surprised.
>>135961340
I've only read the novel and it was great, the only version of the movie I could find for download had shit quality and only watched li fifteen minutes.
