Does /a/ like All You Need Is Kill?
Is it better than Edge of Tomorrow?
It was an enjoyable book. Not the greatest literary work ever but it was a fun read.
I'm the exact opposite. I've only read the novel and heard the the movie's ending shat all over it.
She looks twice as buff there then when she was in Sicario.
Nowhere did I imply that, I merely stated the real life portrayal of Rita was more believable than the manga version. She's supposed to be an elite soldier, not an underweight midget.
Of course. Ever notice that in each iron man movies he wears the full suit for like 5-10 minutes too appeal to RDJ fansboys. Even in promo art and BD covers he shows his face.
More like the movie wrote off the reason why Rika had to die in both the book and the manga. I'd almost rather take the good ending because the sob ending both the other forms have are cliche. Saw it coming the second I read the plot outlines. Least the movie has that nice scene where he greets her at the end. Feels kind of nice.
the movie ending is...
he explodes the Omega with grenades and then he wakes up and see's that the Omega was destroyed before he got to the base and he remains a officer and nobody knows that he saved the day
>the sob ending both the other forms have are cliche.
This so much. Im sick of all the "Tom Cruise sacrifices himself for the greater good" Movies. Hell in "Mena" he is scheduled to play as someone who does just that.
>not liking all three
Seriously though, that movie is way better than it has any right to be.
I enjoyed the movie more, and I came into it super negative thinking it'd be Hollywood cliche shit. Thankfully the movie made sense through to the end, unlike the book which had some weird twists by the end of it.
Book has the clumsy mechanic and big-booby dick-thirsty slut stereotypes though, in case you're into that.
like it just blatantly undermined the entire mechanic that carried 90% of the plot with no explanation. OK.
>take what is supposed to be a hardened soldier
>make her into a tiny moe blob girl
I will never like the manga. It rapes the book material just as hard as the movie, anyone who says otherwise never read the fucking book.
This isn't true. We relate more to characters when we can see their faces. If Iron Man wore his helmet 80% of the time, it might as well be a sarcastic robot. Pretty much all movies have a need to show the actors face, because the face is almost entirely what people look for in acting. And no it's not just about looks, it's about how the actor expresses emotions.
It's easy to pass it off as "Oh they just want to cash in on this actor," or "The actor probably demanded his face be shown all the time." In reality, it'd probably be easier for them if the actor only had to be on set for half the scenes, since they would be able to just use stunt doubles for the rest.
One of the first things you learn about acting is that when you're up on stage, the audience must be able to see your face at all times. Never turn your back on the audiences unless absolutely necessary. It's why the actor is always facing the audience, even when another character is present.
Neither, the ending blatantly rewrites the rules of the time-reset for the sake of a happy ending and destroys the entire film.
That's not quite it.
I mean, look at the Iron Man Movies.
First movie: Tony Stark for the first half. The Full Iron Man.
Second Movie: Tony Stark goes through a crisis that ends up with him having to make a new armor so we end up seeing his face a lot more.
Third Movie: Literally Tony Stark all the time. Barely any armor except for that part at the end.
There is a reason for that. If they don't show him out of the armor he's literally getting paid for voice acting. Hollywood wants its money's worth so they keep figuring out ways of keeping him out of the suit.
It's dumb as hell.
Read the manga and watched the movie around the same time, and I still think the movie was handled better. The film focuses on beating the war and surviving it from start to finish, while the manga was mostly about escaping the loop. The simpler plot makes a huge difference while the presentation was just adding icing on the cake; the more brutal deaths, the development of the protag's skills, and the risk-it-all factor were just a lot better than the manga, though to be fair, the manga is much shorter than a hollywood movie.
>and the time reseter magically dies without him killing it
I think you're just a bit stupid.
What about the graphic novel? It looks like shit yo.
Novel went full grimderp because the author needed the MC to be strong independent male who needs no woman. Movie had a much happier ending and somehow seeing someone else being happy after all the shit they've been through makes them angry and hate the ending.
>the internal logic of the movie's finale is a small detail
The reason why they were looping was because the MC and his waifu both became backup servers for the aliens. There is a more technical explanation for this but we'll go with the simple one for now. In order to stop the loop they needed to kill all other backup servers before killing the main alien. Failing to do so will mean that the aliens can reboot from a surviving backup server and the day will loop. This meant either one of them had to die before they could kill the main alien server and thus end the loop.
I wasn't a big fan of the movie's ending but I realized that while both the movie and novels/manga draw from the same well, they end up telling very different stories. The novel shows the MC hardening and becoming a weapon in a crazy war while the movie shows Tom Cruise redeeming himself and becoming a good guy. Looking at it like that, both endings fit what the story needed and I am okay with that
>the directing was great
>pretty good writing throughout
>everything about the movie was pretty good besides the abstract details of how logically sound the ending is
>therefore the film is shit
This is what you sound like
The Omega experiences time in a different way, it's in a different layer of the universe or something, it's not past to future, it's non linear. The fucking Omega dies and passes this time warping bullshit of a power to Cruise, the closest living thing to it.
You retard, the Omega suicide upon the start of the final reset because the alternative is to let Cruise have the power of the Omega. Remember, it was the Omega's blood seeping into Cruise's body as its last ditch effort to survive somehow. However, once it realize it gotten into a human's body and humans can take control of the loops, its entire species now risk a human being able to control all of its loops including the ones before they landed on Earth.
>The Omega experiences time in a different way, it's in a different layer of the universe or something,
Never watched the movie, but I couldn't get over how in the novel, how the MC didn't just tell Rita to get off the battlefield. Relays had to be nearby to be effective, otherwise there was no reason to have them in a position where they could be destroyed. If she was just not around, MC could have gotten out of the time loop.
I'm not the one who tried to fanwank away the inconsistent time travel mechanics
It makes much more sense though.
There really isn't any need for full body armor when it provides absolutely zero protection. He even says so in the movie when he refuses to put on the helmet.
Because we clearly have mastered the science of time travel mechanics in real life and have a database of temporal knowledge to say what is and what isn't fanwanking away the inconsistencies, ya dumbass.
Why are you bringing real life into discussion of fictional time travel? Your fanwank logic was inconsistent on its own, I don't need to cite non-existent real world time travel knowledge.
The Alpha's are linked to the Omega and it had a limited number of days to which it can loop. Now, at this point, you have to wonder, what is the Omega, whose blood it is has seeped into Cruise's character and not an Alpha, linked to? It would make sense as it goes up the hierarchy, the time traveling powers expands as well.
Stop responding to him, you won't get through an actual autist I have seen this type of autism before. Once you ignore it they will know they aren't welcomed.
Eh the movie was a good adaptation of a japanese book too so it was cool in the end, it even makes me hopeful for the Yukikaze adaptation also its bullshit the audiences never liking bitersweet endings
In the book the Omega or Antennas as they are called tehre are sort of like the last defense, if they ever encounter a problem that is stoppping them from terraforming a planet they send back in time to a previous iteration of the Omega so it can take actions to bypass this problem, in the movie and book this translates to the Mimics going directly after the MC because they see him as the biggest disturbance in their work
It wasn't as if it could have been a perfect adaptation since it was a Japanese author writing what he thinks how non-Japanese acts. At that point, you might as well just keep the basic outline and let the actual non-Japanese write out how they should act and stuff.
Fucking stupid, you haven't read the fucking book at all you twat.
What happens in the end, is that "HE" is the only human on the planet and the vampires become the next evolution of humans and he was essentially killing off the humans. There were people in the new vampire/human hybird order who gave him the chance to escape and leave but he didn't take it, taking the chance they might spare him after he murdered too many vampires before they could evolve.
That page is pretty much exactly how the book described it. She is something like 17 years old since she forged her papers when she enlisted.
And as for the whole why wear armor if it doesnt help is only a thing for the movie. In the book they were swinging around battle axes that if used wrong would end up snapping your spine from inertia even through the suit. They only did what they did in the movie to save CG budget and show toms face more.
Anon, what the book does with its time travelling mechanics has nothing to do with the movie. It's two separate continuities and each have their own way of dealing with it. Both have their own canon to work with, so saying how it's different from the book does not make the movie's explanation any less credible.
Because the Omega works the same, they are out of the way and in case something fucks up they send back in time the information to correct the mistake, they are also the key to stopping the loop, seriously how hard is it to grasp a concept that simple? They even start going after the MC when they notice he is the thing that is bringing the trouble to them by attacking a city completely out of teh way of the battlefield just because he is there? Holy fucking shit, is /a/ so fucking dumb it can't understand a simple and dumb scifi?
Actually, in regards to the movie, the movie ending as we got it fits better. The story itself is different enough that it might as well be just a similar setting. This has to do with the themes that the movie was trying to portray versus the themes the book tried to portray.
I thought the book was a better story though.
Anon, the fact that the main characters are not the same means that even the so called mimics are the similar in name only. The LN uses the antenna mechanics, the movie does not. Why are you so adamant that the mimics in the LN and the movie must be the same?
The suit designs are shit.
>that movie is way better than it has any right to be.
Only until they hit the third act. It snowballs downhill at that point. I thought we were going to get Punished Cruz but we just ended up getting Ethan Hunt again.
Why would they not be? The Omega controls the whole army, what else do you want a 1-1 version of them in the movie so you can say they indeed the exact same? What the hell is even your problem with the movie? Is it because it wasn't made by a japanese?
The vampires that we know today are very different from the original vampires which were closer to zombies. I am Legend uses the more traditional form of vampires as its main antagonists.
So should I read it (Novel) or watch it first?
Which one is better for first time experience?
i personally like to read the source material before watching the adaption to see how they changed it. The only one i didn't come back from hating it was harry potter and the first season of Game of Thrones
Anon, just because they're called mimics doesn't mean they have to act out exactly like the mimics within the LN. The fact that it doesn't use the same power-armor technology, nor the same main characters, nor even the same names for the alien hierarchy (Server/Backups vs Omega/Alpha) is more than enough proof that the mechanics needs not to be the same. The movie made it explicitly clear it's doing its own thing as compared to the LN. Why are you so insistent that it must be the same despite all the differences already?
I love the movie to death and got through the manga just fine, but I can't really get through the LN. I started reading it then lost interest.
It's the same with Battle Royale. I loved the movie but didn't really care for the novel that much.
still getting mad i see
did i hit a nerve huh