Opinions on Shiki? Just got to Episode 10 and not really sure how I feel about it. Should I finish the series?
Finish it, and make sure that you watch episodes 20.5 and 21.5 in between episodes 20, 21, and 22--they are the best episodes in the anime.
Glad to see the correct opinions
>I just ate this burger and don't know if I like it, should I keep eating?
muh trunk loli
You mean stuffing her in the trunk and then set the car on fire, right?
That is all those monsters deserve.
The series is a slow burner but for me it is a genuine case of something that gets so much better in the second half.
The 2nd half sees all the tension and suspense that the show has been slowly building up explode forth in such a dramatic way. After that there are no brakes on the Shiki train.
This moment here >>135905955 in particular I rate as one of my favourite moments in any anime ever.
This is the best Shiki.
Great series, burned through it in a few days. Loved it, kept me interested the entire time. It gets a little worse after the Festival episode, but still a solid series.
>Should I finish it?
As others have said keep watching, it really gets moving around ep 13, I think
She was scum which made the scene all the more satisfying.
It really stretches your suspension of disbelief once you get to the final third.
The show doesn't transition very smoothly from 'VAMPIRES FUCK YEAH!" to "HUMANS FUCK YEAH!" It all just happens within a single episode. The vampires go from this massive world ending threat to complete bitches because of some lame 'humans are the true monsters' message it wants to pass on.
I stopped getting invested around the time where the humans go single file into the cramped sewer system with nothing but a few sticks and manage to brutally and systematically slaughter the much stronger, faster and more durable vampires (who also outnumber them) because the vampires decide to cower in fear and run for their lives.
Like, I get that the series wanted to make the humans into the monsters (especially given the climactic showdown between Suit Loli and OtterMode) but it could have found a clever way to get to that plot point, instead of throwing everything it built up out of the window.
>The show doesn't transition very smoothly from 'VAMPIRES FUCK YEAH!" to "HUMANS FUCK YEAH!"
I thought that transition was entirely natural and intended, considering how the series had built the tension and the suspense over the course of the episodes.
When it finally spilled over, it was unstoppable.
And it was nice seeing the Shiki's flawed master plans that they had spent so long constructing come crashing down around them in a matter of days.
When I watched it, I interpreted a lot of what you're complaining about as the show emphasizing the importance of group mentality. Initially, the humans (aside from doc and the kid) were operating like they were prey, playing the traditional role of humans in a vampire story. However, when the doctor demonstrated that the monsters were flesh and blood and very, very killable, the humans got their shit together and got to purging. At the same time, of course, the vampires' mentality was totally shattered by the realization that their dominance was the product of the humans' apathy, not their own cleverness or power (aside from the super-shiki, of course). I thought that the tunnel scene where, as you said, the vampires decided to cower in fear and run for their lives, was a demonstration of how powerful mob mentality can be on both sides of the struggle, with group bloodlust on one side and group panic on the other.
The young doctor a shit
Vampires were in the wrong but he was the most monstrous character
That's a really good way of putting it actually.
I really like how the 'Vampires' are portrayed in Shiki. In most Vampire stories when a human turns into one the become a dark version of themselves but in Shiki they are mostly all the same people. Which is reinforced in this section when they are all running away from the 'monsters'.
It was really quite awful in every way and I still don't understand why so many people enjoyed it.
It starts off as an ugly incoherent mess and ends as an ugly incoherent mess that wants to make you have deep thoughts
Her frustrations were similar to any teenage girl stuck in the middle of nowhere. Before she got the chance to grow out of that phase, she was Shiki'd which caused them to be multiplied tenfold. She was also encouraged by the Shiki to blame the village
The Shiki killed her then mindfucked her enough by playing on her negatives to make her think that what she was doing was somewhat justified.
She was naive and stupid but she was definately sympathetic and pitiable. Her death was justifed if only to put her out of her misery.
They are the same people.
Tatsumi and Tsunako essentially mindfuck them. First they demonstrate to them that there is no way back to being human and if you want an easy life you'll go along with what they tell you to do.
Then they convince them that what they are doing is entirely justifiable i.e. Its not their fault they are doing what they are doing. Its the fault of the people of the village.
In many cases, Tatsumi/Tsunako prey on their old relationship links. Like with Nao they encourage them to go after their old family member so that they can "join them in an immortal utopia". Though as we saw with Nao, there is a greater chance that their family members simply permenantly die from the attacks rather than raise up as Shiki
>There is no redemption for the doctor after what he did to his wife.
He doesn't need redemption.
He's the hero that all mankind needs.
A hero who can disregard bitches and acquire SCIENCE.
That's also a good point. With the exception of Tatsumi and Tsunako, the Shiki were basically a conscript army. When shit went down, their lack of discipline or training of any sort became very evident.
She wasnt his wife anymore.
He was fighting an enemy that worked through subterfuge and mystery. The odds were stacked against him. For the survival of not just himself but of every person in the village he had to make the difficult decision as he was the only one who could.
He was a hero in that sense. He didnt take any personal gratification from killing the Shiki.
I don't think this guy was very scared. He was just enjoying the ride.
He enjoyed the moment the Shiki lost their arrogant sense of superiority and but he is never once shown enjoying killing the Shiki.
The extra episode with the Shiki in the tunnel demonstrates a group of humans who have begun to take joy from killing the Shiki and even torturing them by stringing them up in the sunlight.
The Doctor simply killed them immediately in the most effective way.
Bullshit. Shiki are essentially the same person when they come back. His wife was immortal and needed blood to survive, but she was still his wife. And he ruthlessly tortured her until finally murdering her.
If she had been taken by the other shiki and molded by their psychology, pro-doctorfags might have some ground to stand (barely). But she was innocent.
Unpleasant art and character designs
Characters randomly introduced and killed off
No believable motives for most of the characters' actions
In the end WHO'S ACTUALLY EVIL????? Wow amazing
What was deep? Enlighten me senpai
He fired the shots that started the revolution.
He gave the town the knowledge and tools it needed to get the job done.
Yeah, if he were a shounen then he'd also be the one to drive in the last stake, but it wasn't that kind of show.
>She wasnt his wife anymore.
I never said she was.
>, but she was still his wife
Nah, she would have been a pawn of Tatsumi/Tsunako who would have no choise but to follow them or die.
What you are saying is akin to saying that you should feel bad for Zombies rather than putting them to rest properly.
The Shiki were the dead brought back after being specifically targeted and systematically killed. Their life and memory desacrated. The kindest thing to do for them was kill them.
it honestly felt boring to me and yes i did finish it
>muh loli vampire who just wants blood to survive
>literally pressganged by twisted fucks during their most vulnerable time
>anything like being a traditional mindless shambler
Anon are you gay
>Unpleasant art and character designs
Fair enough, the character designs were pretty far out although I personally didn't mind them
>Characters randomly introduced and killed off
Like who, various villagers? It's difficult to establish a setting where humans are being preyed upon without characters getting killed. The buildup would have been a lot less effective if it'd just been a bunch of unnamed villagers dying. The death/Shikiization of Nao/her family and various similar subplots did a lot to reenforce some things the show was trying to emphasize, in particular the explotative and manipulative nature of the core Shiki group's power over the converted villagers.
>No believable motives for most of the characters' actions
The girl made quite a lot of sense, see >>135910140
Sunako's motivation was naive as fuck but made a kind of sense
The doc's motivations are pretty obvious, they killed his mother and his wife
You might be sort of right about Natsuno
>trivializing the lolipire
It's not correct to say she was justified. But I can't think of the right words. She was a product of her environment? Some random lolicon turned her, and she was treated like a monster and became a monster.
>she was treated like a monster
but she is a monster you shiki apologist
its like you saying nigger refugees are OK to rape because its their culture
Yeah, she had a pretty naive and innocent worldview, even if she was in effect a monster whose actions were responsible for hundreds of deaths.
She's a monster and also a victim.
I empathize with her, I understand her as a person, and yet I'd have no trouble putting her down.
I get the reasoning but I was just never sold on the story as a whole, so I was never able to take it seriously I suppose.
Anyway OP asked for opinions so I thought i'd share mine.
Toshio is a real hero and a real human being.
Fuck that priest.
GOAT Anime with GOD TIER OST. And based MC
Yes you should finish it. Prepare yourself for the ending though.
>helps the shiki scum
>murdered based ragebeard who was just about to take out the trash
Monk deserves to die.