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Why is Tsukihime so much better than Fate, /a/? Seriously.
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Why is Tsukihime so much better than Fate, /a/? Seriously.
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Tsukihime developed the girls more, and still had a more entertaining MC than Fate which focused on Shirou.
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>>135889142
Wrong.
The only thing better than Fate is One Punch Man.
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>>135889142
Better MC.

Tighter focus on the characters and themes.

Less stupid shit.
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>>135889266
this
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>>135889142
Better girls. Hell, actual girls. Girls that actually look like girls, rather than boys in skirts.
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It isn't, if we're talking about the original Fate VN, not the shit the franchise has turned into
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>Liking KnK downgrade
At least shitpost about good series
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>>135890428
It seems to me you're starting to forget what Tsukihime really looked like.
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>>135889142
If it's so good, howcome it's dead?
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>>135889142
At least Fate can stay its cast alive. Tsukihime was so bad that killed Hisui.
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>>135890847
> that killed Hisui
uwot?
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>>135890499
>Nasu: So, for our debut eroge, how about we just take another companys eroge, and mix it with our own ideas recycled from a past work?
>Takeuchi: And maids!
>Nasu: Brilliant.

This was the short but accurate story of how Tsukimeme came to be.
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>>135891084
Who cares how it came to be if it turned out good in the end?
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>>135891084
And yet it's still a million times better than Fate
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>>135891167
Then why is it less popular?
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>>135890672
Sure, it had shitty art, but at least the girls looked like crudely-drawn girls, with their N64 polygon busts. Fate had slightly better art, but its girls look like they could've gone either way.
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>>135891204
This
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>>135891145
It's so bad not even Nasu wants to have anything to do with the original anymore. That's why he's remaking it, to correct his past blunders. But even then, he keeps procrastinating because coming into contact with Twilighthime gives him physical pain from cringing so hard.
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>>135889142
Because Kohaku is in it.
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>>135889142
Kara no Kyoukai > Tsukihime > Fate
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>>135891229
>giraffes
>acceptable as heroines
Fucking bronies.
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>>135891377
>the more underground it is the better
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Fate: Typical battle shounen in eroge form
Tsukihime: "dark and mature" shounen like Akame ga Kill in eroge form.
KnK: Ramblings of a 16 year old tumblr poet.
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>>135891477
No, it just captures urban fantasy better than the latter two.

And Shiki a cutest if we aren't counting Apocrypha.
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>>135891377
Mahoyo >>> *
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>>135891477
>anything by Type-casual
>underground in any way or form
Even KnK is youtube live reactor approved anime.
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>>135891519
>Akame ga kill
>Dark and mature
Your bait needs more polishing.
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>>135891635
Scare quotes, shudder quotes, or sneer quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to signal that a term is being used in a nonstandard, ironic, or otherwise special sense. They may be used to imply that a particular expression is not necessarily how the author would have worded a concept. Scare quotes may serve a function similar to verbally preceding a phrase with the expression "so-called", they may imply skepticism or disagreement, or that the writer intends an opposite sense of the words enclosed in quotes.
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>>135890847
Learn some American before you post here, terrorist.
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>>135891552
If I could read it, I would probably agree.
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Mahoyo = DDD > KnK > Fate > Tsuki.
>>135889142
Horrible writing. Not so interesting main plot. More nukige parts. MC is more designed for self-insert. Most fights are asspulls.
But
Great WoD atmosphere (real Nasuverse). Great characters. MC is more proactive. Good humor. Some fights are really intense. MADNESS
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>>135891377
Kara no Kyoukai is the most painfully Nasu of all the three. What it lacks in godawful shoehorned comedy scenes, it more than makes up in absolutely meaningless juvenile circle-talking about philosophy and semantics. In my opinion Kara no Kyoukai fails at what it tries to be while FSN and Tsukihime succeed. Tsukihime and Fate pull off the magic harem for otaku pretty well, while KnK is far more ambitious. The problem is that Nasu is an otaku to the bone, he can't write anything more thought-provoking than Tsukihime and Fate. But that doesn't stop KnK from working on easily impressed youtube and MAL reviewers. Slap a dark color palette and have the characters talk in circles about stuff that sounds fancy but has no substance, and you have yourself a hidden gem for intelligent anime watchers like KnK.
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>>135892228
>Good humor
Nasu couldn't write a good SOL scene even if it was ghostwritten for him.
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>>135889142
Mollusk.
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>>135892617
You lost me.
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>>135889142
Nasu a hack
A HACK!
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>>135892478
>most painfully Nasu
>Nasu is an otaku

So wouldn't the harem shounen circlejerks be the most Nasu? You talk in circles worse than you claim KnK does.
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>>135890771
>>135891204
because tsukihime doesn't have anime to promote
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>>135892880
Fate does have a shitload of the trademark circletalking Nasu is so well known for, but it's not the main focus.
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>the tiny Japanese schoolkid bullies an ancient old vampire lord to tears because he's just that EPIC
Near side was awful in the original and will be even worse in the remake when Shiki looks like a beta otaku lead.
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>>135891229
>not able to appreciate the early 2000 doujin work style
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>>135893097
Nice, using memes as an argument always works.
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>>135892649
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>>135893352
Takeuchi has a very distinct style, he's not in any way representative of early 2000 doujin work.
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>>135893301
That's what the manga is for.
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>>135893301
>beta otaku lead.
He looks presentable, autisit.
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>>135893097
It got an anime, it was shit and anime world collectively decided to never touch this garbage again and made the far superior Kara no Kyoukai. Tsukishitters can meme all they want, it doesn't change this fact. The world does not need both Tsukihime and KnK, and if one had to choose which deserves to exist, everyone except horny 15 year olds would choose KnK over the juvenile genderbent Twilight.
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>>135893516
Too much tags
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>>135893483
It's still Near Side garbage, Arc waifufag.
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>>135893413
The big works from that period, Tsukihime, Higurashi, 2hu, all have the same essence. They're all very rough looking and weird, but it's sincere.
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Friendly reminder Arc is smarter, prettier, much cuter and way stronger than Saber.
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Can Shiki kill shitposters?
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>>135893605
No. Takeichi was learning how to draw. He's 2000 works are average beginner shit.
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>>135893623
>smarter
>implying saber is smart
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>>135893623
> way stronger than Saber
> got sliced into pieces by a teenage nerd with a pocket knife
Rrrright
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>>135893605
>They're all very rough looking and weird
Yeah, because they couldn't draw for shit. The styles are completely different, the only thing they have in common is that they're bad drawings. Actually 2hu and Higurashi I could see the similarity, in the sense that they're only vaguely human shaped, but Tsukihime is nothing like them.
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It absolutely fucking isn't, though. Is it cooler? Yeah. Is it better? No.

>Arcueid's entire route was a piss in the wind
>the end of Ciel's route was nebulous bullshit
>the ending of Kohaku's route, with Akiha sparing Shiki and Kohaku on a pure convenient whim

I'm Tsukihime fanboy too, but come on. Say what you want about F/SN, but at least it had the decency to resolve its conflicts properly.
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>>135889142
All of Nasu's VNs are superfluous and poorly paced, stop reading baby's first VN and find something better.
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>Tsukihime
>better than FSN

No.
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>>135893812
>EOP shitter baiting
さらに説明する必要がある
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>>135893780
>decency to resolve its conflicts properly.
Except fairytale ending in HF True End.
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>>135890499
Tohno > Ryougi
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>>135893763
He caught her completely off guard. You can count beings that are able to actually hurt her on one hand.

>>135893751
Well, to be honest, Arc isn't the brightest girl in the universe either.
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Less infodumps
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>>135893763
well saber will be sliced too if she's in arc's position.. except she can't survive
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The only people who think Tsukihime is genuinely better than F/SN are deluded contrarians. Ask any Tsukihime faggot why they think it's better, and all they can come out with is "m-muh atmosphere". An atmosphere which is, by the way, predicated on the ineptitude of early Nasu and Takeuchi.
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>>135893900
only newfags praise Nasu's trashy writing
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>>135893966
>implying Shiki can kill Servants
>implying Saber's instinct wouldn't save her
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>>135894116
>all they can come out with is "m-muh atmosphere"
Y-yeah, that's pretty much me. I'm not going to argue which is better, I enjoyed Tsukihime very much, while finishing Fate route of FSN was a pain in the ass - maybe because I've seen FSN anime. I watched UBW movie too and I'm kind of afraid of starting another route, since I already know the most important parts of it.
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>>135894309
> hasn't read UBW and HF
> thinks he knows shit about FSN
typical /a/
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>>135889142
No Saber, that is why.
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>>135894431
I'm so sorry.
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>>135893812
I'm playing a doujin nukige so underground I had to buy it from dlsite because this version didn't get uploaded on the internet.

Is that experienced enough for you?
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>>135894309
>Didn't read UBW
>Watched the movie instead
I'm so sorry for your loss anon
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>>135894700
>ネトラレ
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>>135894708
I was just a kid. I didn't even know what VN is.
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>>135894431
>>135894708
What's next? "I used to play Melty so I know all about Tsukihime"? "I watched Carnival Phantasm so I'm pretty knowledgeable about Fate and Tsukihime"?
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>>135894700
自分を殺してください
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>>135893763
You say that as if Saber would have survived literally getting sliced apart at the threads of her very existence.
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>>135893763
>Saber
>Got beaten by a history teacher

Let's not pretend Saber is much better off.
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>>135894855
ITT we're discussing two specific VNs: Tsukihime and FSN. Nothing else is required, but I'm pretty damn sure that in order to compare two games you need to finish both of them.
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>>135891552
is this even translated?
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>>135894244
>implying saber is a normal servant
>implying it won't be kuzuki v.2
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>>135895205
up until chapter 5
it's already 67.99% complete
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FSN had better fights
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>>135889142
Because it had a loli defloration scene
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>>135894864
Straight outta google.
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>>135895442
Dragonball has even better fights
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Supernatural murder mystery is the best genre of visual novel, so Tsukihime is a perfect fit.
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> best girl dies in the very beginning
> good
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>>135889142
>Why is Tsukihime so much better than Fate
There's people that are serious about this.
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>>135895770
Non-supernatural murder mystery with actual emphasis on protagonist solving the mystery himself is better.
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>>135896034
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>>135896153
>bait
More like you have shit taste and try to hide it by calling everything that disagrees with you bait.
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>>135895515
I want to deflower a loli.
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>>135891204
Because it's good?
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>>135896698
>Good things aren't popular
You are as dumb as the people that call popular shit good. Fucking dumb hipsters.
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>>135897002
Fuck off Fatefag with terrible fucking taste.
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>>135897002
>still not scanned
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>>135895790
Sacchin was a boring ass piece of shit

yes worse than Hisui
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>>135896454
>More like you have shit taste
I'm not a fatefag.
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>>135897086
Life is hell, death's a bitch.
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>>135897205
You are a Tsukihimefag which is worse.
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>>135897281
you're both fucking disgusting for liking anything by Nasu, make up and kiss, shit taste faggots
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>>135895515
Tsukihime also had Arc losing her virginity to rape
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>>135897086
FUCK OFF
U
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O
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>>135889142
They're both chuuni garbage, KnK too for the record.
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>>135897316
What are you doing in this thread you less than shit faggot? You come into threads to tell people to stop liking what you don't like?
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>>135897374
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>>135897362
KnK is the chuuniest of them all.
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>>135897408
Now you can fuck off bitch. Go watch some good shit like Thunderbolt and stop wasting time here.
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>>135897086
>People legitimately fap to anything with this ugly cunt in
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>>135897454
Already saw it twice, nasufags are the worst fanbase on /a/ and I find them entertaining. I have never seen people so obsessed with complete garbage. The level of pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo in these threads is comedy gold.
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>>135897319
Arc lost her virginity to consensual love making in the missionary position.
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>>135897532
The main problems with Sakura are worms and her unstable psyche. Physically she's pure sex.
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>>135897659
>Derp face
>Dead fish eyes
>Uguu eyes
>Yellow skin
She is shit.
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>>135897755
>Dead fish eyes
>Uguu eyes
Are you drunk or something?
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>>135897659
Actually the penis worms turn me on. I've fapped a couple times self-inserting to Sakura.
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>>135897548
I know it gets you a bad end later on but Shiki losing control and raping Arc was one of the best sex scenes in the game
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>>135897086
>That anime tier shading
>that bloom to hide the lack of detail
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>>135889142
better atmosphere, full stop.
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>>135897830
She has down syndrome.
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>>135897086
What happened to her mouth lol
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>>135898105
>lol
back to facebook
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>>135898055
I don't think you know what "down syndrome" even means
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>>135898200
I think you just can't accept that your shitfu is ugly as fuck.
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>>135897319
>>135897548
>>135897843

Reminder that Arcueid, and only Arcueid, makes love to the MC because she wants to, not because there was some bullshit magical reason.
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>>135898200
He was making a joke about her always looking down. Obviously except when Shirou is around.
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Reminding you all that if you read the VN in english you are already secondaries
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>>135899281
Meh
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>>135899281
I just read the LP
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>>135899281
wtf is a secondary?

every type=moon fan is same equal type of losers
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>>135899452
>wtf is a secondary?
>>>/out/
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>>135899281
Reminding that if you were not born and raised in Japan, you will never be able to fully understand the language with all the puns and cultural references
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>>135899574
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>>135899281
moonrunes is hard senpai
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>>135899452
ciel, sakura, azaka, etc
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>>135889142
It really isn't tbqh. Let's be fair, the only things Tsukihime does better is not flooding you with infodumps at the start, and the creepy moments (better than any in HF). Oh, and Eclipse >>> Last Epishit.

Otherwise... it has an incomparably worse protagonist (as a character, you might still find him more entertaining), a generally shallower cast, wasted characters/plotlines (Nero, Sachiin), and a much, much weaker climax/final route (the story peaked at the end of Hisui's). Not even gonna mention the art/music.

It's still a very good VN and an essential classic for Type-Moon, but Fate was a definitive improvement in almost every way. We already know the remake fixes some of these issues, so let's hope they go all out to make it their best VN yet.
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>>135899614
>implying this is the truth

If you leave there and study there yoj will

>implying i wanted to be born in the most pressuring culture on the planet
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>>135900000
Checked.
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>>135893905
Speedreader detected. HF True was literally foreshadowed since the middle of Fate.
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>>135900000
> 00000
I guess, I have no other choice but agree and follow your advice, sensei.
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>>135900000
WITNESSED
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>>135889142
But Tsukihime doesn't even have the best girl
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>>135889142
Why are both so shit, /a/? Seriously.
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Man Tohno Shiki is so fucking weak.
He fucking collapses every fucking episode. Thats why it is fucking shit.
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