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When do the Koyonomogatari episodes begin?
The ninth.
>>135762038
According to the disgusting monogatari fags that is artsy fanservice
What happened to Kizu.
Wasn't supposed to air today?
>>135762393
no one gives a fuck about your disgusting haremshit anymore
>>135762393
08.01
>>135762393
>air
In theaters yes.
>>135762393
Unless you know moonspeak you'll have to wait at least 6 months for subs, so hang in there anon.
>>135762289
That pantyshot is literally what caused all the monogatari series. Not even joking.
>>135762473
>Kizu
>haremshit
>literally has two female characters, only one of which the protagonist has any kind of romantic tension with
>>135762639
Seems to have been confirmed on twitter that it wont be showing in UK theatres either.
>>135763652
Araragi has romantic tension with both.
>>135763073
I know moonspeak. Alas, I do not have enough extra money to blow a grand on a plane ticket to Japan, so I will wait another month for it to come here to Freedomland.
>>135764311
no he doesn't. he doesn't have a single lewd though regarding bat for the entirety of the novel. not even in her loli form
>>135762038
Saturday
CR simulcast when
>>135764532
Romantic tension does not mean lewd. Get your mind out of the gutter.
>>135764532
First thing to come to mind. Page 238.
>Kee hee hee, she laughed girlishly in spite of her current form, still hopping and skipping around.
>Hrmm.
>I hadn't noticed when she was under that street lamp, given the circumstances..but Kissshot's breasts were huge.
>Every time she skipped, they bounced and bounced, bounced and bounced.
>The bust of her dress was fairly exposed, as well.
>Ah, so that (ten years old), by way of that (seventeen years old), finally ended up like this (twenty-seven years old)...
>A grand mystery.
>"......"
>With her feeling so happy and hyper, maybe she'd let me touch those breasts if I asked---the low thought passed through my mind, but I didn't have the courage to put the plan into action.
>>135764764
Anon, I'm a batfag, but even I have to admit that there isn't any sexual tension between Kissshot and Ararararagi in Kizu;Or at least not as blatantly stated as the tension between him and Cat.
>>135764532
Yes. Araragi's thoughts about "doing something" to Kiss-Shot in her sleep and whether or not she would let him feel her up were completely platonic.
>>135764882
There's definitely not as much as there is with Hanekawa, but it's still there, like the post above yours points out. Also, please reread and try to understand what my previous post meant, or maybe I should help you out? Romance is not only erotic love but is deeper than that. Are you saying that wanting to be with someone of the opposite sex for infinity, or at least a very long time, is not romantic?
>>135764882
It's not blatant, but it's there.
Does anyone know if the Bake novels are being translated into English as well, or was Vertical only doing Kizu?
>>135765093
>>135765105
>There's definitely not as much as there is with Hanekawa, but it's still there
I mean, yeah, he's Araragi, he wants to fuck everyone.
>>135764798
>araragi pointing out the obvious regarding her huge rack
>batfags being in denial
going by that logic he has lewd thoughts regarding Dramaturgy's big muscles too. the truth is that there's no romantic tension between araragi and kiss-shot.
>>135762289
Everything in anime is art you fucking idiot.
>>135765349
If you can't understand romance, then you are broken as a person.
But I haven't caught up yet.
>>135765473
>appreciating huge tits
>romance
No.
>>135764309
Where is this confirmed?
That's a real shame.
>>135765583
Look at all of their interactions, their whole relationship, rather than just his passing thought on the size of her breasts.
>>135765583
>"taking responsibility" for someone of the opposite gender for the rest of your life
>not romantic
Is anyone going to at least throw the Koyomimonogatari raws on nyaa?
>>135765670
>dysfunctional codependent relationship
>romantic.
>>135765878
No one said that romance is without pain.
>>135765878
None of that disqualifies it from being romantic. It doesn't exactly have a reputation for being functional or stable.
>>135765655
there really isn't. there was romantic tension between them in the kabuki arc. In kizu there was no romance involved at all.
>>135763073
>>135764485
This is wrong. It seems there are some cinemas in different cities of different countries where you can watch Kizu a lot earlier. Even with subs. For example, I live in Germany and there will be a show in my city about a week from now
>>135765670
Except that it felt like a burden for Araragi. He doesn't have any romantic feelings for Kiss-shot in Kizu. He only cared for Hanekawa.
>>135766161
>He only cared for Hanekawa.
And even for her he felt something way beyond love, he thought of her like a saint or something of the sort. He felt reverence.
>>135766161
Except he adamantly claims that he'll never hate that relationship and calls it something precious.
>>135766161
If he only cared for Hanekawa, then why did he not want to kill Kissshot in the end? Why did he choose toremain a vampire instead of becoming fully human?
>will debut on the upcoming Koyomimonogatari app on iOS and Android devices on January 9
why
>>135766330
precisely because hanekawa told her not too
>>135766558
Initially during their fight, he stopped in the act of killing her due to Hanekawa's interruption, but why would he not continue if he knew that killing his master would make him human again? Wasn't Kiss-shot just a burden for him?
>>135766774
Because he's a complete masochist. He still feels like shit almost a year later at the end of shinobu mail because of his decision to stay with shinobu
i really want that background picture
http://kizumonogatari-usa.com/
the kisshot laying on the ground not the shinobu one
>>135766916
>taking Araragi's spiel about not being happy at face value
>ignoring Ougi's evaluation of their relationship
>ignoring Senjougahara's evaluation of their relationship
>>135767071
Okay.
>>135766916
>almost a year later
Koyomi drains her on April 7th, Shinobu Mail is resolved on August 24th, just over four months.
>>135767125
oh wow thank you anon
i was still trying to figure out how to do it
>>135767129
The flashback ended before that bit. He delivered his whole talk about him and Shinobu still not being happy sometime around graduation. I think it's March, but I don't remember exactly off the top of my head.
>>135765243
They most likely want to do them as well
>>135767231
Considering that Kizu sold out pretty much everywhere I sure as fuck hope so.
>>135767230
Oh, the Shinobu Mail epilogue? Yeah, that's March 13th. I'd forgotten he said that.
>>135767229
check the website source for the images
>>135765670
>"I didn't read Kizu."
>>135767231
I really want to read the rest of the novels in English since I'm not very good with Japanese, but I'm curious how they would try to capture some of the word/character-play that the author employs in its original language. I know how much Nisio Isin likes doing stuff with kanji after having read Medaka Box and watching the Monogatari show itself.
So will we get a camrip?
>>135767369
>stuff with kanji
Why do people parrot this? Wordplay is wordplay, and a bitch to translate, period. I think Vertical did a damn good job.
>>135766127
Film it and upload it for us, anon.
>>135767322
That's a shame because it was an enjoyable read, and the last chapter backs up the argument that their relationship is romantic in nature.
Pls be screenings in UK
>non crab threads have some actual discussion
And there are faggots who believe that Crab is not the worst thing that happened to Monogatari
>>135767440
Maybe
>>135767658
After having read Kizu, I can see why people might not like Crab, but I still think she's alright. Maybe not as good as Bat, but she's alright. A Cat would have been fine, too, but she was a bit too crazy for awhile there.
>>135767525
The last chapter makes it insanely clear that there isn't anything romantic going on.
>Having wounded each other, the two of us licked each other's wounds.
>Damaged goods both, we sought out each other.
Nothing romantic about that. Just two fucked up people trying to help each other.
>>135767939
>The tale of our never-to-heal, precious wound.
>I will tell it to no one.
The tone is pretty affectionate, and the promises made then are the basis for their relationship when there is undeniable romantic tension.
>>135767545
Never ever, anon
That part about Araragi not grabbing Hanekawa's boobs was the biggest blue balling bullshit I've ever read. Nisio dropped the ball hard in there because there was so much potential. When Hanekawa said she wouldn't mind getting bitten by Araragi, Nisio could have actually made Araragi, who was unstable and at his complete worst, try to bite her and turn her into a vampire. If Nisio wanted lewds, he could have written him grabbing her by the waist and making her boobs press against his chest or some shit like that while he was trying to bite her. Then at the last minute, Araragi would chicken out and feel guilty about what he was about to do and Hanekawa would still call him a chicken for what he didn't do because Hanekawa was also unstable. It would have been more dignifying than what he wrote desu.
>>135768614
cool opinion, would you like to share anymore
>>135762473
>being this much of a sad little faggot
>>135768614
>dignifying
Nisio doesn't give a shit what you think. Monogatari is 100% authorwank. He says as much in the afterword of every volume.
I agree, it would be gratifying to me as a reader, but it would also be out of character. Araragi isn't actually unstable at that point, his chat with Hanekawa had already rendered him hopeful and determined. Eating or turning any human was the thing he was most scared of, if you hadn't noticed over the previous twenty pages.
>>135768937
>gets depressed because he has to eat humans to survive now that he's a vampire
>tries to turn her only friend into a vampire because of that
POTTERY. It would have been great actually and his future interactions and the faggotry he shows towards Hanekawa would have make more sense considering the fact that he tried to kill a girl who was looking to escape from her shitty life.
>>135768937
why would it be ooc? arararagi was a complete edgelord during kizu. total debacle
>>135768212
Are you serious right now? This is explained in the first chapter.
>This story about a vampire has an unhappy ending.
>It concludes with everyone becoming miserable.
This is the reason he won't tell the tale. There is nothing good about what happened during his spring break. Why the fuck would you want to tell people about it?
>[...] my responsibility to her will be a lifelong affair.
Nothing romantic about that.
>>135769602
>[...] my responsibility to her will be a lifelong affair.
Yes. Voluntarily taking up the responsibility of spending the rest of your life with someone is completely unromantic.
I wish there was an homo love interest in this series
>>135771556
Monkey, Cat, and Crab get a bit homo sometimes.
Is there a flac rip of utamonogatari up yet? I've only been able to find 320kb/s
>>135765878
He cherishes her later in life, that's all that matters
>>135772635
The CD doesn't seem to be out yet. Checking one site, it says it has a January 10th release.
>>135773296
http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Utamonogatari this says 6th
mega links for discs 1 and 2 here (320kb/s):
http://mega.co.nz/#!b5YFDIDT!gsQdpuPraDz4lr-a2qNBP2b3Jq0kP-8g0dtaBMwPB4A
http://mega.co.nz/#!LhZGDbYD!nhePtRhIXbXm56X3g6ps8HI5NwHqrs5z8M50Fvt2oDA
>>135773575
Based.
>>135774812
I'm bummed there's no snail or bat cover. I wanted to match each song to its respective girl.
>>135774990
>>135775048
>>135775124
>>135775174
Wasn't there another Nisio anime adaption greenlit not too long ago?
>>135775237
I lied, there is a snail cover. It just wasn't in either mega link I suppose?
>>135774990
Which song did bat sing?
>>135775712
None technically but you could stick her on the oni OP
>>135775320
Yeah, I thought I saw something about that while reading about his new manga. Wasn't able to catch the name of the series that's being animated, unfortunately.
>>135770180
So if you had a child or parent that ended up being paralyzed or bedridden and you took full time responsibility for their care, is that romantic?
He accepted having to take care of her because he sympathized with her and thought that if she lived, even as a shadow of her former self, it'd be better for her than dying.
>>135775712
None because her Seiyu is a whore.
>>135776072
I thought it was just because she didn't want to sing for the series due to personal reasons or something. Surely that's not what she meant, right?
>>135767125
That expression of hers is disarmingly charming.
>>135776179
Her reason doesn't matter. It's bullshit and I hope she chokes on a cock.
>>135776262
Wow that's kind of mean, dude. I can understand your frustration and disappointment in her not singing for the series, but choking on a schlong is a little too cruel for the situation.
>>135776072
But doing a soulless character song written by somebody else at the bidding of the jews at Aniplex would make her a whore, anon.
>Inb4 muh artistic integrity
>>135775980
It's not the same type or intensity of care that you'd need to administer to someone who is permanently bedridden. That analogy is completely off course.
It boils down to an oath to spend the rest of his life with her. Araragi refused to give her a place to die, so he's giving her a place to live: next to him. This is what the characters interpret it as.
Will ruel raws ripp Owari? I want to hear the audio commentary
>>135776569
All I meant by the analogy is basically that she literally can't survive without him.
And despite whatever oath they made, it doesn't necessarily make it a romantic, if anything, it was pity, he pitied Kisshot but thought that she might be able to find some meaning or happiness in her life before she actually dies.
He cares for her, certainly, I'm not sure how much that was at the end of Kizu, they basically only had one happy conversation during those events, but I don't think it ever went to romantic feelings.
>>135776803
The conversation wasn't about romantic feelings. It's about romantic tension: a decent number of hints that maybe they have a crush on one another. Araragi dedicating his life to her care doesn't necessarily mean he's motivated by love but when it's teenage boy vows to spend the rest of his life with a beautiful woman no matter what state she's in, then you can't discard the idea that he is at least partly motivated by a crush, especially with the fond way he's describing that duty.
And that's only looking at the very ending. Kiss-Shot herself asks if Araragi would be okay with staying by her side as a vampire instead of turning back into a human. She's not going to bring that up if she doesn't want to hear a 'yes.' Then there's Hanekawa mentioning the theory that creating a thrall is the vampire equivalent of sex.
The way it's played isn't super overt, but the romantic tension is definitely there.
>>135767545
Not even Madoka got any. And even if we did, it would be shitholes like London and Manchester where you'd have to travel half way across the country anyway.
>>135777480
> but the romantic tension is definitely there
I really just don't see it.
> he is at least partly motivated by a crush
Considering that what he's doing is basically destroying her identity as Kisshot, and knew that he was doing so, I kind of doubt he was motivated by a crush. Even in the first episode of Bake he calls her "nothing", not without care, but I don't think he decided to let her live with any thought to romantic tension.
> A decent number of hints that they have a crush on one another
Whatever 'hints' there are, are mostly just Araragi being his perverted self like he is with basically every girl in the series. As for other conversations, I think they only ever thought of each other as friends.
> Kiss-Shot herself asks if Araragi would be okay with staying by her side as a vampire
Didn't Kisshot say she didn't really know what she wanted Araragi to answer with? Anyway, Araragi refuses the idea of regardless, I imagine even if he knew that at the time Kiss-shot asked him he would've preferred being human.
> The fond way he describes his duty
He says he's fine with being burdened by her because, like I said, he sympathized with Kisshot and didn't want her to die completely in the mental state she was in at the time, he'd rather her try to live like he would also try to. This really doesn't mean anything towards there being any romantic tension.
>>135778170
I'll repeat and clarify: the feelings don't have to be definite or solid. The characters themselves don't have to understand them. There just has to be enough there to make a large amount of the audience ask themselves "do Araragi and Kiss-Shot have a crush on each other?" That's romantic tension. And if you pay attention to the hints there's no way you don't have a similar thought run through your head.
>>135778437
Even thinking with that in mind I just don't see it.
Maybe if Araragi weren't the person he is, I may think as you say, but considering everything he does through out this series, using that mindset you could say that he has a crush on almost every girl in the series.
>>135762038
When will SHAFT realize that this series is now being milked and they should've adapted Bake and stopped there.
US theater list when?
>>135778671
You couldn't blame him if he did considering they're all great candidates for best girl in their own waysexcept Snake.
>>135778701
when it stops making you upset
>>135764309
You can't show haran there
>>135778701
Why would SHAFT stop adapting a series that makes them money?
>>135778773
I agree with you theresnake a shit
>>135778671
Well, he does have some form of romantic tension with just about every girl, yes. However, what he has with Kiss-Shot is treated as less of a joke than with Kanbaru and Hachikuji and he has more pure sexual tension with Nadeko.
>>135763150
"A chain of events."
>>135780376
Yes. The panty shot heard 'round the world.
>>135779197
It's a bit more of a serious relationship sure, but I still just don't really see them ((in Kizu at least)) to have any more sexual tension than any of the other girls.
Seems like Araragi just held her in a different regard than he would a normal girl, even toward the end of the story when they talk on the roof he was almost afraid of her.
>>135780731
Sexual tension is different from romantic tension.
>>135773575
noice
>>135765632
>>135767545
No UK screenings.
>>135780866
I get that, and it's still just not really there. Like I said, we're talking about Araragi here, and you could argue he has sexual tension between almost every girl.
And really, the original comment actually was about romantic tensions, saying Araragi chose to save Kisshot due to romantic feelings, which is what I was arguing against.
>>135781308
I'm not saying that he saved her entirely or even mostly because of romantic feelings. I'm saying that he has multiple motivations for things and that romantic feelings were probably a part of why he saved Kiss-Shot even if that part was very small.
>>135782413
I imagine it'd be smaller than the pity/guilt/respect he felt for her, to the point that it isn't worth mentioning in a series like monogatari.
Plz be screenings in Canada
Already? I feel like Owari just ended.
What a good time to be alive.
>>135782972
It did just end
They could have released a final Kizu trailer at least.
Kizu 2 in summer
That would mean Kizu 3 next year. The best date to air the final bunch of Monogatari stories.
What a run Monogatari had.
>>135783848
I don't want it to be over.
I still wish it'd be a single 3 hour movie like The Disappearance.
