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I mean sure Monogatari series after Bake isn't nearly as good, but this is fucking garbage what the fuck
>>135573264
your face is garbage.
Owari was superb.
>[Commie]
English Only pleb opinions do not count.
>>135573435
First one I didn't finish it was so boring.
>>135573264
>after bake is garbage
>second season is garbage
>commie
Opinion discarded
Remember when Araragi wasn't a hopeless idiot being talked down to by everyone all the time?
Remember when he was an alpha harem protag who literally GF'd the first girl he met?
>>135573264
>fujoshi asking for the dick
Shine bright like a DIAMOND.
>>135573533
Not OP, but I thought some people here recommended Commie for Owari, or did I just miss the joke?
>>135573568
You should rewatch Mayoi Snail if you've forgotten for awkward he was and how much he got talked down to
>>135573264
the animation improved but the story dropped in some arcs
exceptions tho
like the kaiki arc in monogatari season 2 is fucking amazing
>>135573808
the story needed more senjougahara too
>tens of gigabytes spent downloading all of *monogatari
>never watched any of it
Why does it have to be so bad when the girls are so good? I want to have the desire to watch it but I just can't.
>>135573791
>if you've forgotten for awkward he was
dude he slaps the shit out of hachikuji for being rude to him
>>135573908
and on the topic of owari
the episode where they talk for a whole episode at the shrine was bad yes
gaen always takes too long to talk imo
then they transition to shinobu and monkey girl
for the rest
what was said, could have been said in 1/8 the time
>>135573971
i just watch something else when i get sick of it
keep coming back to it tho
Monogatari is a masterpiece in and the weakest parts of it are only 7/10 at worst. If you have ADHD and can't stand anime that focuses on entertaining character interactions instead of shounen action scenes every second you might have a problem with it though.
>>135573989
Yeah, that's a good example of how awkward he was
>>135573692
commie is good enough.
>>135573509
>sat through the entire series
>didn't finish the most interesting one so far
fagget.
>>135574113
lol no dude
they definitely go overboard with gaen 15 minutes of her saying nothing at all is too much
>>135573989
i will never get tired of the interaction between those two
>>135574305
>Gaen saying nothing at all
>Literally the character that has the most knowledge
>saying nothing
Not because you don't understand that her rambling is meaningless. Go back to your shonenshit, kid.
>>135574858
no. dont try and make it deep. i know exactly what she says, she says so much superfluous shit. sounds like YOU dont understand what gaen says.
>>135574973
Okay, buddy.
>>135575079
you make me laugh with your pseudointellectual nonsense, all you do is fool idiots and make yourself look retarded. lmao. hur dur gaen so deep cuz she talks for 15 minutes in circles.
>>135574973
>literally "no u" response
>>135575145
This image triggers my autism because she doesn't do the posed look thing anyway and even gets angry when people mention it.
>>135575130
Sure thing, mate.
>>135575604
>actually replying like a ten year old
lmfao
>>135573568
No?
Hana maybe?
>>135573264
I want to feed monkey my banana
>>135573568
>GF'd first girl he met
Didn't realize he was dating Hanekawa
>>135574219
Ougi is a guy, stop posting that webm. Nothing about him is sexy at all anon.
>>135576400
Ougi from Araragi's imagination is female. Ougi from Kanburu's imagination is male.
>>135573568
>>135573509
don't worry you'll like Bake when you actually want something different from anime unless you're a shit eating retard who never gets bored of samey, trope filled garbage
>>135574011
>what was said, could have been said in 1/8 the time
Yeah, unlike the rest of the series.
>>135573568
>Remember when Araragi wasn't a hopeless idiot being talked down to by everyone all the time?
Not really, no.
Who talks down to him? Gaen, who does that to everyone. Ougi, who is some sort of manifestation of the psychological shit he has to work out (whether she's part of the problem or the solution remains to be seen) and Hanekawa, who can see he's being played but, for whatever reason, can't say anything explicit yet.
>Remember when he was an alpha harem protag who literally GF'd the first girl he met?
No, I remember when Araragi was a vaguely believable person who was asked out by someone he got along well with.
>>135573568
I remember him dropping his spaghetti all over Hanekawa and meekly following the first girl assertive enough to get him to commit.
Second Season is a wild ride.I didn't do my homework. Help me time travel.
Oh, looks like everyone is now dead.
Always remember to pet your vampire.
>c89
>still nothing new
>>135577184
this
>>135574011
Whose hand is that?
>>135573264
>gatari shit
>good
>ever
if you don't have standarts maybe.
>>135578910
>standarts
Yeah maybe.
S2 >>>>>>> Bake >>>> Owari >>>>>>>>>>
>>135573692
commie is generally not very good, but they're the only ones who do monogatari right
>>135579203
Bake >>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nise > Tsuki > Hana > Owari
>>135579261
Just the first episode of Owari is way better than Tsuki and Hana combined
I like it. Shinobu mail was a weak arc though.
>>135573568
That never happened. He beat Seishou by himself though.
Shinobu mail was the worst Monogatari thing I have seen I believe. Even Nise and its outrageous fan service was more entertaining.
Just for that Owari isn't worth putting on the same list as the other shows.
Fuck Gaen.
>>135579575
>Fuck Gaen.
>>135579945
>character is a know-it-all bitch
>>135574858
It was a fucking info dump for shit we already knew 80% of. That's why it was boring shit.
>>135579575
Gaen's shitty monologue aside, Shinobu Mail was the strongest arc since Koi.
>>135573264
The entire Shitogatari series is garbage. You can only get garbage from a garbage studio anon.
>>135580740
too harem 4u?
>>135580722
And yet the weakest of Owari so far.
>>135576355
No he flipped up her skirt
He did fuck the second girl he met
>>135575145
>I said with a posed look
That part of her life is over, Anon.
Forget it.
>>135573692
Commie is the only group that subs Monogatari that is good at typesetting.
Theyre pretty shit for nearly every other show, especially ones that other, more competent groups are subbing.
>>135580722
hana, owari 1 and tsuki were all better than shinobu mail
>>135581028
If you aren't invested in the characters, maybe. But if that's the case then why the fuck are you watching Monogatari?
Are the full openings out yet?
>>135581117
All those arcs features the original characters, not just Shinobu Mail.
>>135581163
Decent Black yes, Mathemagics just on the 27.
>>135581231
There was one episode that dealt with the main story, where it answered why Araragi became an edgy faggot. The rest was the Sodachi show- which was pretty interesting in its own right and Marina Inoue did a hell of a job selling the character. However, it doesn't have the far-reaching consequences and information of Shinobu Mail, which also let up on everyone being so super fucking serious all the time even though the situation was more dire.
>>135577234
What happened to Spurdo
>>135576400
o shit. That actually turned me on for a bit.
>people shitting on Gaen
Fucking kek. Yeah, they should let the explanation of things to the characters that fight each other and leave 90% of the logic behind like in shonenshit. Get the fuck out. Fact of the matter is that you guys suffer of ADD and that you can't follow when someone talks for more than 2 minutes. Go back to watching One Punch Man. Monogatari is for people who likes story telling, not shitty meaningless combats and ass pull super powers.
Gaen is best girl and best onee-chan of the season. Deal with it, bitch.
>>135581854
Gaen is a turd and so are you m8
>>135581602
Then what you mean is not investment in the characters but investment on the "main plot". The actual amount of Sodachi in Owari 1 is around 2 full episodes out of 7, not much more than Gaen in Owari 2 comparatively, and there was also Seishirou. Not to mention you can't say that of Tsuki, in which Tadatsuru is barely present.
>>135581921
Why is she a turd? Because she knows more than the MC in which you self insert hard into? You wish the be the ultimate star of your own show? Hilarious. You're hilarious and pathetic at the same damn time.
>>135574011
I agree there, the script isn't anything special, its just pseudo-intellectual BS. That isn't the highlight of the show, it's the directing.
>>135581854
>We don't know how to tell a story properly so we're going to create a shitty character which its only purpose is info-dumping.
Will there ever be a song as good as Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari again?
>>135582223
>b-b-but muh oneesama makes my wee wee feel so funny when she talks down to me
Your masturbation fodder is a turd, deal with it
>>135582326
nothing to do with shaft newfag, tell that to nisio and his milking of the series
>>135573568
After being talked down by some bitches he went and beat up a tiger and broke his former crush's heart.
>>135582114
Tsuki was also good, but it was still more of a setup arc. Shinobu Mail was a lynchpin arc that explains a bunch of mysteries from the rest of the series and then throws in even more information about the characters. Plus, Seishirou has been known as an important figure in Shinobu's past since Kizu while Sodachi was shoehorned in. Sodachi's arcs didn't make me want to re-examine the entire series to see how the information I got there fit in with everything else while Shinobu Mail did.
>>135582345
Owari ED was almost as good.
>>135582298
thank you spooky ougi
>>135582535
Does an ED have the same emotional impact though
>>135582346
She doesn't even talk down people you dumb shit. Most of the time, she explains or give additional information to the MC. You still didn't explain why is she a "turd".
>>135582326
You talk like she's been used countless times already. The story telling is already very good without her. Her purpose is to fill the holes in the story with additional missing information. And how is she shitty? She hasn't done anything wrong and she's a great onee-sama.
>>135582364
>The source material is shit, but we're going to leave at that because we're are too lazy to fix anything
>>135582588
>She doesn't even talk down people
Confirmed for being too busy masturbating to femdom fantasies to pay attention.
>hating Gaen
ADHD memelords leave this place
>>135582589
something something low quality bait jpg
>>135574497
I find Hachikuji horrendous, glad she's fucking gone. Also I'm tired of Araragi thinking only with his dick. He's 18 not 13.
They should have make Kaiki or Oshino the MC; the only characters along Suruga I don't want to punch.
>>135582467
So you're just agreeing with me that you're invested in the plot and not in the characters particularly.
I found Owari 1 much better because it was focused on people's problems like many monogatari arcs, and I can accept new characters even if late in the game if they are interesting, while Owari 2 was mostly about filling the plot, which was mostly done through info dumps this time.
>>135582656
If I liked femdom (which I do), I'd notice the talking down part, so I don't get your point. I think you're too busy being a little bitch and taking offense from a great girl like Gaen having more information than the character in which you self insert into.
>>135582589
>Shaft is shit
>"Nisio writes this"
>then Nisio is shit and so is Shaft for not doing anything about it
Anon there's a limit to how much you can pretend to be retarded.
>>135582696
These people just seem to be baiting, but it's true that Gaen monologuing about the past is a lazy way to dump exposition. She's fine when she's setting up duels and challenging the other characters with tough questions, etc.
>>135582789
>if you don't masturbate to second rate femdompandering like I do then y'all are just filthy self inserters!
Sure thing, bud
>>135582467
>Sodachi's arcs didn't make me want to re-examine the entire series to see how the information I got there fit in with everything else while Shinobu Mail did.
And how is that bad, exactly? You'd rather them leave you in the dark the entire time? I find it good that now we know what the fuck happened to Araragi during the entire Tsubasa Tiger arc and why he wasn't there to help Tsubasa with her problems. It's interesting because, you know, it's part of the main plot. Whereas Sodachi seems like a fucking filler arc to me.
>>135582960
You're a lost cause. A bitch that hates on strong women because of insecurity issues.
>>135583098
Now you are strawmanning. It might be time to give it up.
Is there a reason why Episode is even in this series? He doesn't fit at all.
>>135583138
He fits in Kizu
>>135583129
Sorry but that's the only conclusion I get from someone hating on a character because she's an strong onee-san figure that knows a lot and that, apparently, talks down to people. Clearly insecurity.
Monkey is a lot cuter with longer hair.
>>135583365
I don't mind her short hair but yeah, her long hair made me want to run my fingers through them.
>>135583365
>>135583138
Because Gaen was preparing a secondary plan in case Araragi failed.
She was going to send a vampire hunter to take on a vampire using the fact Oshino saved Episode's life in Kizumonogatari as leverage to get him to take the job.
>>135573264
You don't deserve this anime ,choke on a cock
>>135583362
>if you call a turd a turd, you're just being insecure!
You're endless repetition sure is going to make it true if you keep trying
>>135582780
There was one info dump and it was bad. However, the high points were much higher than anything in Owari 1 and outside the ifo dump the pacing is a hell of a lot better with the good old banter that so many people know and love the series for making a comeback after being gone for six episodes.
Being invested in the main plot = being invested in the characters since the main plot is just about their personal growth. That's the only thing to get invested in. Nobody was on the edge of their seat to find out if Seishirou was going to get vanquished, they were on the edge of their seats to see what he meant to Shinobu and how his appearance would impact her relationship with Araragi.
>>135573264
Look man I am just waiting for Kizu....and I am going to like it.
>>135583499
She moved up to best girl.
>>135583362
She's arrogant and psychotic, not strong. I assure you that if she ever fucked up big time she would have a severe breakdown.
>>135583698
She always was.
>>135583022
It's not bad, it's just inferior. Bigger, further reaching revelations are more interesting than smaller ones.
>>135583499
Best booty.
>>135583657
But you still didn't explain why she was a turd. All you do is keep repeating "turd" so you're not any better than me. At least I have the decency to explain why you're so insecure, but you can't explain for shit. No wonder you don't like Gaen. Top kaka.
>>135583698
>haircut determines best girl status
>>135583793
This shit is important.
>>135583787
the fact you're getting so awfully defensive over the shittiest oneesama of any season she appears in just exposes you as a buttblasted femdomfag who has no better arguments than some armchair psychology about "insecurity" of the people who call you out for your bullshit
go end yourself
>make a lesbian character
>then make all her interactions be centered around male MC
>make her many times tease him how much she wants to fuck him
>don't get any gf as a token lesbian
>isn't shown to be attracted to more girls than one loli and sempai with so many cute girls around
>her only role is to be fanservice joke for male MC
>is a complete fujoshi
Seriously why Nishio wrote Kanbaru as a lesbian?
Wouldn't it be more normal to make her bisexual as her coming out gone?
>>135583736
Well, she knows her place. It's not like she goes around randomly and spilling out knowledge to then boast off about it. She's thereonly when Araragi needs her and when she's asked about it, she tells them she knows everything (which is, up until this point, true). I see nothing wrong with that and knowledge is power so yes, she's strong.
>>135583996
>turd turd turd turd
And your argument is better? Fuck outta here.
>shittiest oneesama
Fuck you, I'm done with you. Tired of arguing with an insecure self insert faggot.
>>135584147
Guess what, she is bisexual.
>>135581746
He evolved into Gondola
>>135584147
Ahem.
>>135584256
Crap, wrong file.
>>135583680
>the high points were much higher than anything in Owari 1
That's debatable, for me the highest point was Lost part 2.
>Being invested in the main plot = being invested in the characters since the main plot is just about their personal growth.
The "main plot" I meant the supernatural/shinobu plot. Owari 1 is part of the main plot as well, including being focused on the main antagonist and her relationship with both the Araragi and Hanekawa, and the main character background and part of his development. And while Sodachi wasn't properly foreshadowed, she is a part of the story as well since Nisio added her.
>they were on the edge of their seats to see what he meant to Shinobu and how his appearance would impact her relationship with Araragi.
You're really overselling this arc.
Regardless, for me being informative isn't the same as being good. Just reading a summary/bio could provide all these points, but it wouldn't entertain me as much.
>no one posted any shit related to redditgahara yet
So we are finally getting better
>>135584256
>>135584330
Ghosts don't count into sexualities.
>>135584178
>constantly salty and assblasted over other people not worshipping the same fictional fetish girl
>calling others insecure
femdomfags are hilarious
Help me /a/. I've just watched Mayoi Jiangshi and Nadeko Medusa in a 24 hour period. How do I regain control of my life and stop watching Shinobu Time?
>>135584339
>focused on the main antagonist and her relationship
It was setting it up, which is fine, but still inferior to dramatic revelations about a previously established relationship.
If you're more interested in new characters than the "it's complicated" between Araragi, Senjougahara, Hanekawa, Shinobu, and Kanbaru then I don't see how you can say you're invested in the characters.
>Just reading a summary/bio could provide all these points
Except I literally read summaries of both arcs years before they were animated and Owari 2 was the one that stuck out as woefully inadequate because the meat was in the small, nuances and debatable points. Whereas Ougi's relationship with Araragi is literally perfectly summed up as: Ougi is Araragi's self-criticism. What exactly that looks like is interesting, but it doesn't provoke the same level of thought as knowing that Araragi copied the rejection Shinobu gave to Seishirou to use on Hanekawa.
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_09.23_[2015.04.04_23.39.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/idfl3jm.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_09.23_[2015.04.04_23.39.01].jpg")
>>135584392
post best girl
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_21.20_[2015.04.01_22.06.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wy2XCzv.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_21.20_[2015.04.01_22.06.29].jpg")
>>135584890
>>135584822
Just let it happen. Then sleep and rewatch the entire series because there are a fuckton of details you're going to pick up on now that you know more about the characters.
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep04 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_03.08_[2015.04.07_19.29.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uAPJFVu.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep04 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_03.08_[2015.04.07_19.29.36].jpg")
>>135584939
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep04 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_10.56_[2015.04.07_19.57.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mZDRCGU.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep04 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_10.56_[2015.04.07_19.57.35].jpg")
>>135584989
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>>135585045
>>135584890
>>135584939
>>135584989
>>135585045
Abort thread, the fuckboys are here.
>>135573264
>I mean sure Monogatari series after Bake isn't nearly as good
Second season was great
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep06 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_16.33_[2015.04.11_22.16.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DLFE361.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep06 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_16.33_[2015.04.11_22.16.53].jpg")
>>135585083
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_18.25_[2015.04.05_01.22.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S0h9e61.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_18.25_[2015.04.05_01.22.29].jpg")
>>135585129
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_10.45_[2015.04.04_23.51.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3PUJNXR.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_10.45_[2015.04.04_23.51.17].jpg")
>>135585171
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_06.06_[2015.04.04_23.05.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rhO3kfd.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep03 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_06.06_[2015.04.04_23.05.38].jpg")
>>135585215
>>135584971
It's happening. My life is over. But who is this spooky sleeves girl and why is shegiving Snake terrible ideas like talking to scrunchies and eating talismans.
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_14.24_[2015.04.01_21.34.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tHXVgxA.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_14.24_[2015.04.01_21.34.59].jpg")
>>135585260
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep05 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_24.04_[2015.04.07_21.40.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ySjsQjz.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep05 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_24.04_[2015.04.07_21.40.15].jpg")
>>135585311
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>>135585350
Crab a cute
>>135585264
She's doing it because Araragi is a masochist.
>Monogatari series is fucking garbage what the fuck.
fixed that for you OP
>>135585386
that's a weird way to spell 'shit'
Why did crab cut her perfect long hair? Fuck Nisio and his shit-tier taste
>>135573568
What the fuck, I'm on episode 12 of Bake, and you're telling me it only gets worst from here?
>>135586531
No. He's just a nostalgiafag who watched Bake years ago and can't see any of the faults of Bake or the merits of new seasons.
>>135586531
>>135584147
she's bisexual you dense homo
>>135582223
I don't even know where you get all of that from that post you insecure nigger. Gaen is shit because she info dumps the viewer with pointless shit that does not need 10 minutes to explain.
>>135586531
Enjoy it because it's all downhill from there.
>>135585264
>giving snake terrible ideas
Ougi did nothing wrong. All of snake's terrible ideas are her own.
>>135586684
Sometime it does require 10 minutes to explain an in-depth backstory and her information are most of the time very informative. Like I said, if you don't want in-depth story telling, go watch One Punch Man or something. This show is not for you kids.
>>135586531
Depends
It's easily the best season, but a lot of people get used to the visual style(which is less stylish after Bake) and dialog afterwards which makes them love SS the most, especially after watching the last arc which is actually as good as Bake and the highlight of the series for a lot of people
also if you watch for the ecchiness, everyone-wanting-MC's-dick harem, and characters being a lot more exaggerated(e.g. Araragi being an incest pedo pervert), you'll like the rest of the series more
>>135586593
She called herself a lesbian not bi.
So I blame Nishio on shitty bait writing her as lesbian where he doesn't understand the meaning of it, similiar like many tags on various hentai japanese or western sites use hetero or group sex or threesome content as "yuri/lesbian" tagged too...
Or more likely wanting to play with conversion fetish where a lesbian becomes bi cause harem MC is a guy trope going.
>>135586998
And Senjougahara called herself a tsundere. And Araragi says he isn't happy with Shinobu despite putting his life on the line to keep her by his side.
>>135586998
>taking what the characters in monogatari say at face value
You are some new kind of stupid aren't you?
>>135586998
she said she liked boys in hana you dense homo. stop being such a dense homo and go choke on a cock
>>135586998
A person can identify as lesbian and still flirt with the opposite sex you know.
>>135573471
Still the best owarimonogatari subs besides zerosubs.
>>135573264
owari was hot garbage. it showcased all the worst aspects of the series wrapped up in two incredibly boring arcs. it baffles me that people eat this shit up.
>>135587586
>>135574219
>>didn't finish the most interesting one so far
i hope you don't mean owari.
unless your idea of interesting is being talked at by gaen for two episodes and listening to overdramatic monologues/dialogues full of just exposition for the rest of shinobu mail
>>135587214
>And Senjougahara called herself a tsundere.
that was a blatant joke though, your example makes literally no sense
>>135573568
>Remember when he was an alpha harem protag who literally GF'd the first girl he met?
Man, you're going to be furious once you watch Kizu.
>>135586531
second season is best season, so no
>>135588190
Second Season has the best arcs and some of the worst ones. It really shouldn't be graded as a whole.
![[HorribleSubs] Owarimonogatari - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.36_[2015.12.12_13.46.24].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7XJmEYJ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Owarimonogatari - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.36_[2015.12.12_13.46.24].jpg")
The only bad part of Owari was Gaen talking for like three hours
The part with Monkey and Bat was 10/10
>>135588329
I thought math was 10/10
>>135587586
Shinobu arcs are just plain shit. The first half was great.
>>135588357
It was the heaviest episode in the series for me.
All monogatari is shit.
>>135586998
God damn it every time someone tries to discuss monogatari it just reminds me how absolutely retarded everyone is. I rather you faggots just argue about best girl or some shit. It's not like you idiots even pay attention to the show anyway.
>>135588329
Gaen talking is normally good, but god that reiteration bit was awful.
>>135573568
>first girl he met
His sister?
>>135588769
He met his mother long before Karen.
>>135588509
Post your top 5 right now
>>135587666
>>135588329
>>135588747
>still shitting on Gaen
Didn't know the fanbase was a bunch of shonenfags. LOL
>>135588819
>LOL
>>135588819
So what does Gaen add to the series?
>>135588807
Cromartie
GTO
Milky Holmes
Seikon no Qwaser
Ixion Saga DT
>>135574113
They're not very entertaining a lot of the time though. The voice cast sounds board out of its skull most of the time and like they're just trying to grind through their monologues and shit, get their pay and get the latest dry season over with. It's a no effort cash cow show top to bottom
>>135588877
I answered that question a bunch of time in this thread already and I shouldn't have to explain it if you weren't a shonenfag that only cares about "muh action"
>>135580740
It's literally all they do cause it's the easiest shit in the world pretty much and guaranteed money. Despite what dumb anime fans say not much to see here
>>135588902
All shit, I'm afraid.
>nothing pre-97
>>135589055
I'm sorry but if you think Milky Holmes is shit you need to put up on a spot that's so high that it's scary
>>135582919
That's what Monogatari fans do. It seems like all the trolls, douchebags and shitposters love it the most which kind of makes sense. I've certainly never seen anybody that isn't a dumb teenager or douchebag advocate for this franchise at length.
>>135585119
Most light novel franchises go to shit after there first volume anyway.
>>135589094
Nobody that isn't a retard or a douchebag bothers to advocate for any series at length because why the fuck is the opinion of an internet stranger worth the effort?
>>135586957
Most of Monogataris fanbase is teenagers
>>135588647
Finding something else to talk about couldn't hurt either
>>135573435
Owari was the worst anime of the season.
>>135577234
Comiket is dead. Thanks Kantai Collection and Touhou.
>>135589055
if you think season 1 and 2 of milky are shit you need to be removed from the gene pool
>>135589277
How the fuck are people still hung up on boatsluts? The porn was good for a while, but now it has gotten old.
>>135589225
Man, I can see that. If you're buttblasted about a character telling a story, you're probably not out of high school at this point. Ridiculous.
>>135588908
You've never seen the commentaries or atogari have you? It's pretty obvious they enjoy their roles.
I especially like how Hanekawa is really the behind the scenes onee-san for pretty much everyone.I loved how in one short story even when Ougi is dissing Hanekawa left and right, she admits she wants her to smile her way just once, but won't get it because they always fight. People really go gay for Cat sometimes
OFFICIAL SEASON RANKINS FROM THE MAN ISIO HIMSELF
SS>Owari>Bake>Nise>Hana>Tsuki>Neko Black
>>135589427
>Commentary tracks for SS is broken
Did Kaiki ever do one? I've seen every single commentary except SS since I don't want to re-download like 30gb
>>135589561
I don't know quite where to put owari yet but that's pretty close to my ranking.
>>135589561
Seems about right
>>135573989
After leaving the house to get away from Karen making him feel guilty about Mother's Day.
>>135589561
>Owari
>literally worst monogatari to date
>this high
thinking SS is better than Bake is one thing, but this is retardation
>>135589561
Rankings by me, anon.
SS>Bake>Owari>Neko Black>Nise>Tsuki>Hana.
>>135591383
>implying the worst monogatari to date isn't neko followed by tsuki
>being this retarded
SS>Bake>Nise>Hana>Owari>Kuro>Neko>Tsuki
Fuck the system
>>135591407
>hana that low
>neko above anything
your rankings suck anon, get some proper taste.
>>135588935
>if you weren't a shonenfag that only cares about "muh action"
More so the banter than the action.
>>135591643
Those two are mediocre, but Owari is actually garbage
>>135591679
>Kuro>Neko
nani?
>>135573264
Its the origonal self insert fagime
>>135591708
No anon, tsuki was garbage and neko was reiterative
owari was great and you're retarded
Im confused, Kanbaru had some amazing screen time in Shinobu mail. The plot actually made some moves for important characters in that arc too. Why don't people like it?
>>135591407
All Monogatari are good. Owari was good because it completed SS Tsubasa Tiger and offered something new at the same time.
Haven't watched it yet; downloading as we speak. Does she stick her gorilla fingers in anyone?
>>135591907
Because there are people out there who have an irrational hate for monkey/bat and hate everything that involves them.
Cause they are faggots.
>>135591907
Some people are upset that Monogatari has moved away from how Bakemonogatari was presented and cannot come to terms with the fact that as the books/seasons go further and further on, the magic they felt watching Bakemonogatari is getting more and more diluted.
>>135591946
This. I loved how Owari finally filled all of the holes while also going in a fresh direction for the first two arcs
>>135591688
Not even protag Kanbaru, Araragi car and Kaiki meat can save that drawn out villain out of nowhere plot.
>>135591907inb4 Gaen
>>135592005
Bake will always be one of the best, but the monogatari series has been overall improving as the years go by. Disregarding whatever novel they happen to be adapting, Shaft has just gotten so fucking good at this shit
>>135591968
She figuratively jerks off Araragi and fists bat.
>>135589234
Dude. What am I looking at?
>monogatari is good
What exactly makes this statement true?
Post your girl rankings guys
Crab>Monkey>Bat>Cat>Snail>Bee>Bird>Math>Doll>Shit>Snake
Ougi is just Ougi, don't know where to put her
>>135592245
The characterization and character development, the visuals and directing as well as the layered themes.
>>135591780
oh please do tell me what's great about it
the loli sodachi mystery with the fucking blank letter being dumb as shit, or Sodachi herself being a retarded character pic related with overly dramatic bullshit?
or do you mean the entire second arc which was utter garbage and easily the worst in the series with out of character Kanbaru/haremshit pandering, more idiotic otaku comedy and "2deep4u" vague sentences from the swaglord
You really need to be extra dumb to believe Bake, which is by far the best in the series, is anywhere close to being worse than fucking Owari
get some taste holy shit
>>135592340
>replying to him at all
>>135592032
>you will never have big sister Gaen explain you the meaning of sexuality and show you how it's done
Why live.
>>135592340
Not that I disagree, but you can pretty much paste that for every anime.
>>135574113
>Haremshit
>masterpiece
>>135573264
I want to spray her tongue with sperm
>>135591731
oops
>>135592297
Monkey>Bat>Snail>Cat>Bird>Bee>Crab>Doll>Math
and those are the girls I actually liked.
How much fanservice is in this? We talking Ikkitousn and Manyuu Hikenchou levels of awesomeness?
>>135592400
Well in all your retarded sperging you managed to somehow strawman that I also think bake is worse than owari so that's impressive I guess.
>>135593193
When there is fanservice, they go all fucking out, but don't expect to see it super often
>>135593193
lurk forever you fucking idiot
>>135593193
It's a weird thing that the fanservice is about as dense as the dialog, yet also as interesting.
I can fap while enjoying fun, silly banter? Hell yeah!
>>135593455
>those lips
nise had some pretty fucking amazing animation
>>135593455
cont.
Like, it's hard to even pinpoint what the director's fetish is. I honestly think he want to make sure we are aroused by every inch of a woman's body, whether it's covered or not.
>>135593243
your backpedaling is impressive
>>135594021
Because I'm not >>135589561 you idiot.
>>135593321
>Deep plot
>Well written characters
>Abstract symbolism
>Engaging dialogue
>Oral hygiene
>Thought-provoking themes
>High-quality animation
>>135594232
>>135594320
Yes that.
I only had the last picture.
>>135594232
>Stock copypastaing
>>135594385
Yeah, there are a few versions of that image out, but they're lost in my disorganized bake folder.
As someone who marathoned all of it in time when Owari was over, I thought the first 6 episodes were really poor. The rest of the episodes I enjoyed. Hana was probably my least favourite and not engaging at all. Nise pacing and ridiculous amount of fanservice was quite annoying too. Glad I finally got into the series as I really enjoyed all the other seasons.
>>135594928
>fanservice
>annoying
If you're an autist.
>>135594928
Funnily enough, not even the author liked Nise all that much. He really just wrote for shits n giggles... and was really horny (probably), which explains the more fetish scenes. It was decent fap material at least.
>>135595041
No, I'm just not a teenager anymore. If I want porn I can go fap and move on with my day.
>>135595068
That explains a lot. I could never really fap to it though.
