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Fuck, they are changing way too much.
>>135315156
>Fuck, they are changing way too much
Nothing new, really.
>that Prince Asshole
He kinda looks like Handsome Jack.
>>135315156
Cool! Waiting with bated breath for it to start again
>>135315156
When's the next episode coming out?
>>135316593
Think i read somewhere 9 jan
>>135317211
Did it change schedule? It was on Friday during the first cour, and Saturday is Utawarerumono I believe.
>>135315156
>Fuck, they are changing way too much.
Been like this since the start sadly.
I wonder how badly they'll massacre dragon girl. And the rest of the Akusho girls during the earthquake scene.
>>135319410
I wonder if they'll even TOUCH the subject of the prostitutes.
Also we can see in the PV that Kuribayashi beating the shit out of the Prince will mean he'll get a small drip of blood from the mouth.
>>135319631
>Idolmaster shorty beating the shit out of the Prince
It'll at least still be funny though.
But I wonder how they're going to handle Tyuule's hard sex scene and his prostitutes on a chain. Assuming they even show that. Would they be wearing brown pillowcases with holes cut out for arms and head instead of nothing at all or Tyuule's skimpy attire?
>>135315156
I just need more phantoms
>>135319748
More likely Tyuule would just be bitchslapped rather than sexed.
And if they even show the prostitutes from Akusho, they'll be wearing Christian-approved slavewear, consisting of brown bags with holes cut out for the arms and head.
>>135319748
>Would they be wearing brown pillowcases
Basically.
>>135315156
Changing the story or the character design. It matters.
>>135315156
Oh look they censored all the sex/gore and moefied everything else.
Color me surprised.
>>135319865
>tfw they will censor that scene
Man the concept of this anime was pretty cool the execution of it to the plot is pretty bad.
>>135320096
> He watches Gate for the rape
>>135320238
>he watches Gate for maturity
Man that's unreasonable
>>135315156
get that censored trash off /a/
>Watching anything done by A-1
No wonder why this board is full of fags with shit taste
>>135320294
But rape is the pinnacle of being immature.
>>135319631
I'll be so pissed off if they remove the part wheredipshit gets shot and goes from acting like the boss to turning into a whiny baby
>>135320414
>tfw no slave waifu
>>135320476
>dipshit gets shot and goes from acting like the boss to turning into a whiny baby
Who? Zorzal? He doesn't get shot, he sees his men get slaughtered and then gets Kuribayashi'd in CQC.
>>135320919
And some people still deny that the manga is superior.
>>135320980
Who was that, then? It's been a while since I read that chapter, I just remember the one of those prince dipshits getting up there and talking about how invincible he is, and then she shoots him and he starts freaking out about seeing his own blood.
>>135321079
Are we talking about this scene?
>>135321077
>manga isn't superior
Just somecharacter designchanges is better in anime. Manga provides better accounts/details of events.
>>135321237
>I will destroy that illusion of yours
It feels like forever since I last WHOA'd
kuri
>>135315156
>That prince
Completely ruined. But I'll reserve judgment after I see his face beaten to a pulp.
Why is the manga art so ugly?
>>135321371
>>135321456
Why is your face so ugly?
>>135315156
can't wait for the phantom laser bombing !!
and the spec ops raid !
>>135321456
Because you're used to stupid moe faces and can't tell good art when you see it now.
>>135320238
>watches gate because his a kids
dude you wont feel the hatred to the antagonist without those scene
>>135320096
its worse than censorship because they wont change it in Bluray
>>135321615
Cry us a river, tryhard retard.
>>135315156
Wow. They changed a lot didn't they?
Also the latest manga chapter is out.
Yao being Yao. And Rori is...fine.
They will replace the prostitutes in the anime or just skip them all together.
>>135325043
I call dibs on the dragon girl.
>>135325743
Nigga I will fight you to the death for the dragon girl
>>135325808
>>135325808
To hell with you, look how cute she is when scared. >>135326310
My waifu material.
.
>>135326612
I see someone really wants to die today
>>135315156
Nobodies forcing you to watch it, just read Manga and LN.
Aside from that I'd really love to hear the REAL opinion of an author whose work was butchered in an adaptation (Not just their feeble attempt at praising the few things they got right so as not to get on the studios bad side).
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CUTE
>>135326782
IS THAT THE FUCKING LOLI?
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>>135326816
CUTE!!
>>135326868
Like the light novels my ass
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>>135326868
>>135326868
Those are some QUALITY flowers
>>135327124
>flowers
They're star-shaped hair accessories from Japan.
>>135327172
Sure they are, wonder why they have the circle in the center >>135326896
>>135327228
They're actually QUALITY shurikens.
LN art is great, Manga art is alright but the anime art is trash
GIVE ME BACK MY WHOAS
>>135327329
yeah I was thinking that listening to the PV.
Bunny rape.
>>135327416
really interested in seeing what they do with her and her story. It's pretty brutal.
>>135327416
at least they gave her fucking ears instead of what they did with Delilah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rrr_42FQIw
>>135321324
Leilei got the best deal out of anybody in the whole anime adaptation, I think.
I was barely even sure she was a girl until halfway through the manga, but she's absolutely adorable in the anime.
>>135315156
Does it really matter? This adaptation is pretty bad, I couldn't even finish the first cour.
>>135327944
The JSDF are now replaced with an idol pop group. How different is the show?
>>135328209
I like this guys monster girls.
>>135327228
Well the anime has changed features and clothing of characters already. So flowers to star hair accessories isn't so far-fetched.
They're not gonna fuck up Delilah right?
>>135328690
they already did
>>135328209
Beautiful fat tats
>>135326765
They toned down so much of the blood and gore. I mean if you even read the LN or the manga there was a shitton of violence everywhere.
Also was it confirmed the elf was a lesbian? I'm still confused on that subject
>>135328893
It's an elf, it's a two way street
>>135328893
Well, to be fair the LNs aren't really descriptive. At least not so far as I've read. They say things happen, but that's about as far as it goes. The manga is the most graphic out of all the mediums so far.
>>135326765
So Rail Wars all over again
I just watch gate for the warporn. The novel is good too. Havent seen the manga. Need more tech murdering magic.
>>135329296
>Havent seen the manga.
you know what you must do
This show would have fit an OVA series more. It proves that the modern method of putting all anime on TV doesn't always work.
>>135328690
>>135328743
They also omitted the assgrab scene and Itami teasing her about its cost.
>>135330404
>that Delilah
I'm not madI'm furious
>>135330466
>>135330539
>>135326765
>Aside from that I'd really love to hear the REAL opinion of an author whose work was butchered in an adaptation
The author is former JSDF. He probably understands that since JSDF is assisting the anime studio, that they need the anime to be as uncontroversial as possible. This is what happens when you are working with a government agency.
Hell, the US Army stopped working with Marvel after the first Avengers film because they don't like how Nick Fury worked outside the government.
>>135330539
plz
>>135330539
I really wished they at least kept the LN character designs where possible, if they didn't want to go into manga level of character designs.
So what is the right way to enjoy this? On episode 5 of the anime right now. Are the manga/LNs better?
>>135330919
Yes to both LN and Manga.
I miss all the nationality banter we were having
>>135331031
Is there a recommended order?
>>135330539
furry fags still mad
>>135331116
Either or. But the manga is funner.
>>135330823
See this is what I don't get. Why do so many people hate the manga art? Or is it just a a few very loud people who hate it?
>>135331552
Those who were introduced to the series through the anime usually dislike the manga art. Those who have been reading the manga for years now usually like it.
Of course it could always just be Australians trying to shit the boards up.
>>135330539
>>135326896
I dont see the difference.
>>135315156
I'm just in it for the bunny rape and BREAKING THE SOUND BARRIER OVER A POPULATED AREA
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Who the fuck is this?
Dont tell me it's Zorzal. He's supposed to be some neanderthal, barbarian oaf. Not some flamboyant flamer.
>>135326896
It's fine. LN isn't the source anyways.
>>135331775
Yup, that's him.
>>135330539
>>135330585
>>135331775
God is laughing at us
>>135330596
Because Marvel went full on liberal and most army guys fucking hate liberals here in the US.
Japan of course doesn't' give a shit. The show is one big recruitment tool for the JSDF to get fat ass otaku off their asses and do something productive. Funny enough Gate started out as a fanfiction the author was passing around to his former JSDF buddies.
Its clear though there's a lot of anti-US shit in the series.
>>135331601
But I was introduced to the series through the anime and like the manga art a lot better.
>>135332015
>Its clear though there's a lot of anti-US shit in the series.
The author and the JSDF is pro-US. This is why the characters are still using American equipment. You might disagree because you expect Americans to be superheroes who literally run the entire operation, but that shit doesn't fly here. Being pro-US doesn't mean surrendering Japanese sovereignty. The author AND the JSDF are grateful for American help, and will reward Americans accordingly when the time is right. But a line needs to be drawn when it comes to national boarders.
>>135332247
Well then you're a good man.
/a/ sing WOAH when?
>>135332262
Yes, and we will now call Japan Area 11.
>>135328186
this
oh this shit coming back on soon is it? might aswell watch I guess. Elf and mage girl better do something this time, tired of that generic goth loli cunt
Does anyone have that picture that compares the manga and the anime?
>>135332262
And to be fair, the American government has really acted like an asshole towards it's supposed friends these past several years. Not just "We disagree about X and will work around it", but to the point of "What the fuck dude, who's side are you on here?!"
The manga has some really ugly art, but that's not say it's bad. I prefer a lot of the designs in the manga than in the anime, but the manga is still really ugly.
>>135332742
>>135332658
Lelei steps the fuck up in the next part.
>>135321615
The manga's faces are hit and miss.
Yeah, I understand the dislike for the A-1 supermoe-ification of MANY of the characters' faces and outfits, but for some of the girls, it's a notable improvement.
>>135332884
Danke anon
>>135332271
I try to be every day.
>>135332884
On average, the anime males look better. There are a couple exceptions, but the males usually look better. Most notably Komakado and Itami's government friend. The humanoid women also look better most of the time with a couple of exceptions. Most notably Kuribayashi and Aoi who have better designs in the manga. The monster girls is where they fucked up. They literally decided to go the super moe route and it just makes them horrible. Not to mention like all the women are sticks in this anime.
>mfw I tried to get my brother to read the manga after watching anime, but said he doesn't have time to read manga.
>>135332884
the manga looks infinitely better
People are still watching the shit anime adaptation?
>>135333276
Is you brother illiterate?
>>135330539
>cantwakeup.jpg
>>135333276
That was just a nice way of saying the manga is ugly and shit.
I want to rescue, build rapport, court and date an elf.
>>135333813
Gate
>>135333822
Don't spoonfeed retards with poor eyesight.
>>135333851
Sorry. Just wanted to spread the love.
Gate Season 2
(Rated G for general audiences)
That's the only thing I dislike about it. First season could have been way better. Japan really likes their power fantasies, since that's the only story theme that wasn't altered to some degree.
>>135333877
Aside from them butchering character designs, which I got over, the thing that I didn't like the most was the last episode. They turned Itami into a fucking god figure at the end. He's just a dude.
>>135333851
I saw, Gate, I figured there was more to it than that.
>>135333822
Thank you
>>135331775
Damn, and I thought Yanagida got hit with the FREE treatment pretty bad
>>135333965
>I saw, Gate, I figured there was more to it than that.
Well if you want the full title, it's something like Gate: And so the JSDF Fought There. Or something along those lines. But Gate will let you find it.
>>135333977
That dude is too handsome to be working in finance anymore.
Zorzal looks like a faggot, the rest is good.
>>135333924
There were a lot of things I didn't like as well, but I got it out of my chest by the time the fifth episode aired. You can only be so angry at something for being shitty until eventually, you appear a retard for shouting the same bullet points over and over again expecting things to change. As if bitching and moaning my feelings out would make the anime stay truer to the novels or manga.
All I can say, is that I'll keep an eye out for the good parts, nothing more.
>>135333965
Or you could've just put "GATE anime" in google and got it as your first result, holy shit.
>>135334064
did you not read anything I said? The ONE thing I had a problem with at the end was with the final episode. No me complaining about it ain't goin to fix nothing, but I wanted to point it out.
>>135315156
Literally the same shit.
>You will never lose your virginity in a monster girl brothel
>>135331775
How do you fuck up this badly, an integral part of Zorzal's design is his douchey punchable face.
Who was that cute small girl with brown hair and twintails?
>>135334304
He somehow look's fucking more retarded
>>135334308
A daughter of a noble we meet later. A loli with a fucking agenda.
>>135331775
This is fucking awful.
>>135334356
emphasis on the fucking
>>135331775
Is it me, or does he look a bit TOO evil now?
>>135320919
>>135319865
This is one of the few times a raped character kinda hit me. Probably because it was just a civilian who was kidnapped and brought to the other side for rape and info.
>that one Gate Doujin featuring the full harem where Lelei and Tuka get pregnant at the end
Perfection
>>135334577
My brother of fine taste
http://exhentai.org/g/880857/d8f19e25d1/
>>135334643
Brother
>>135334577
Pregnancy end is always the best end.
>>135334700
Vanilla pregnancy, sure.
>>135334790
Of course.
>>135334503
>This is one of the few times a raped character kinda hit me. Probably because it was just a civilian who was kidnapped and brought to the other side for rape and info.
The worst part is that she had no one to welcome her home. Her family died in the invasion and her own house was burned down. She wondered what was the point of being rescued if she couldn't get her old life back.
>>135334386
I'm pretty disappointed with how little porn the anime actually generated.
How far will this cour go?
>>135332884
>rory's dumb cat ear bonnet
for whatever reason this pisses me off so much.
>>135335083
Hopefully more since the interest is already sparked.
>>135335105
I feel ya.
>>135319776
Shit plane.
>>135335083
Rori still gets his soul, right?
Oh boy, another season of mangafags pretending the manga is the source material and isn't poorly drawn trash.
>>135335873
They are worse than the butthurt muh nationalist propaganda fags
>>135335873
Except it is true, nice job defending your shit adaptation.
>no panties
>>135336434
Bunny commando going commando
>>135336466
manga was pretty boring until they exposed the king
Oh hey Anon!
>>135336654
Not everything is a battle shounen anon.
>>135336654
Nah, it was excited from the beginning. Watching low tech warriors get tore apart my mortar fire makes my dick hard.
>fucked her design up that much
We've angered the Gods.
>>135331775
They had to compensate somehow to make it at least somewhat believable that this genki "tomboy" beats him shitless.
>>135336964
>girl in the army
>tits that big
Loli is best waifu
>>135332884
The anime looks better in every possible way.
>>135337069
Are you seriously implying women in the army don't have big tits?
>>135337140
Yes. Infantry? Yes.
>>135337297
Well you're wrong.
>>135328209
why is the studio art so generic?
>>135337329
NO. I'M NOT.
>>135326737
I swear to god if they make her a loli with wings and no scalely features and maybe blue skin
>>135337549
You've already seen what they did with the others. Terrible times wait ahead.
>>135337583
Or, even better, because they made the dragon CGI and stupid looking, they do the same for her.
>>135337583
surprised That gate did so well with the sales they got last season. How doe's split cour season chances of seasons go again? It it a total or by latest airing cour?
>>135328162
>things I don't like don't have any fans because I don't like them
haha faggot
>>135337419
She looks almost like Selvaria there.
ITT
>>135315156
God damn, Rory is too cute.
>>135338903
He's getting worse and worse at drawing faces.
>>135315156
Eh, it looks good, I hope the anon that was dumping the corresponding chapters for each episode is still around.
>>135321615
>le manga > anime meme
Stop please, anime have surpassed the manga in every single aspect, the only reason you have to praise the manga is the amount of gore and rape on it.
>>135315156
It got WAY too political and boring in the manga
Change is goood
>>135339115
Hmm? I kind of like them.
>>135315156
I wonder if there are any patriotic yet masochistic Americans who watch this just for the JDSF wank
>>135332262
Oh not you again.
Mr
>being ignored or portrayed as neutral or mildly affiliated = pro US
>>135339892
>>being ignored or portrayed as neutral or mildly affiliated = pro US
Mild affiliated? If they wanted the JSDF and the author could have demanded that only domestically produced weapons are used in the show. But by choice, they inluded American military hardware in the mix. If you demand more it is because you were expecting Americans to be the protagonists in a Japanese franchise, and that is retarded.
>>135334911
Not being raped anymore?
>>135340636
>you wouldn't rather just go with the flow and start having stockholm syndrome.
>>135340578
Nigger using a few American guns doesn't make you pro US.
EVERYONE uses American weapons. They're cheap and they're everywhere
yfw they just skipped right over Rory's declaration to be the Goddess of Love.
>>135340636
>>135319865
>>135320919
So... What happened to her
>>135340813
This tells me nothing anon.
Did the story just forget about her?
>>135340840
I can't remember her being in the story since then.
>>135340915
The author knows it not good to establish a subplot then discard it without resolution right?
>>135340578
Where do they show non-domestically produced equipment that much?
I wish the JSDF would just cut the bullshit and go co-prosperity sphere the new world already
>>135340742
>>135340578
what american weapons?
>>135341110
It's mentioned that a lot of their gear is refurbished American stuff.
>>135341110
I can't think of any myself but something has to justify his stupid thoughts right?
>>135341150
Of course it fucking is, the US literally pays for half of Japan's shit
>>135341150
none of it looks american, they mention they're using old shit they can dump if they need to instead of current issue jap stuff. not once have they ever mentioned using american weapons.
>>135324821
>Rori is...fine
And the sun is hot.
>>135341215
>>135341180
>>135341150
>>135340962
>>135340578
I just have one question. Who gives a shit?
>>135341354
At least two autists, apparently.
>>135326896
>tfw no loli waifu lusting after you and almost getting you into serious trouble
Why live?
To everyone who is buttfrustrated over the depiction of the USA and the US Army in Gate, all I can say is that this is probably karmic justice for the depiction of Japan and the JSDF by Tom Clancy.
In this book Japan builds nuclear warheads and ICBMs to deliver them, then sends the JMSDF to invade the Marianas while "accidentally" launching cruise missiles at US aircraft carriers to cripple the Pacific Fleet. Then they used a computer virus to crash the US stock exchange and at the same time had the chairman of the Federal Reserve assassinated.
The end goal of this was that they wanted to ally with China and rebuild the Greater East Asian Co Prosperity Sphere, with China getting Siberia and Japan getting SEA.
This was all in revenge for American consumers losing confidence in Japanese cars after a Honda exploded on the freeway thanks to a defective gas tank, which somehow crashed the whole Japanese economy.
Also the Japanese businessman behind it all is a pervert who kidnaps and rapes blonde American girls.
And at the end of the book a Japan Airlines pilot kamikazes his 747 into the Capitol during a joint session of Congress and kills the whole government.
>>135340937
>The author knows it not good to establish a subplot then discard it without resolution right?
What subplot? Her role was to trigger a new war, that is all. It also put a civilian face and name to the entire invasion event, as someone who lost everything. There was nothing anyone can do to make her life better, that's what happens with wars.
>>135341611
>Japan wrecking shit on the battlefield, on the stock market, and assassinating motherfuckers
>Japanese guy having sex with a harem of Aryan beauties
>Honorable kamikaze destroys entire U.S government in one strike
>Somehow insulting
Your description is kind of shit, dude.
>>135341730
It sounds insulting for the intelligence of the reader
>>135341730
Here I'll help
>the stock market crash is resolved by literally pretending it didn't happen (and bullying investment banks into pretending it didn't happen)
>JSDF and Japanese nukes get rekt by magical stealth fighters, stealth bombers, and stealth helicopters which only America has
>it was just one white girl and the pervert old man isn't the one behind it all, he was a puppet with a weak brain who's being controlled by the powerful zaibatsu businessmen
>the kamikaze guy was just butthurt that his son and his brother were both killed by Americans
>>135332970
Fufufufufu, die you shitty lizard!
>>135342022
Much better.
I just want to go off roading and fuck elves, knights and the nobility.
Hamilton especially.
>>135342452
Yeah, Gate'sworld has a lot of waifus. I'd like to give them someone to remember me by.
>>135342452
>I just want to go off roading and fuck elves, knights and the nobility.
You would fit right into the GATE universe. The inhabitants finds the JSDF's refusal to visit the local brothel bizarre and off-putting.
>>135342678
Soldiers not going into brothels?
>>135342698
>>135342678
They've been warned not to go in case of diseases.
>>135342795
And you expect them to follow that?
>>135319865
wait, what episode was that from? I don't remember that.
>>135342834
>And you expect them to follow that?
The advantage is that they only have one base and it links directly back to Tokyo. So anybody on leave wouldn't just hang around the alien world looking for a woman, they get sent back home for their leave instead.
>>135340685
Swede pls not all of us like turdworlders
>>135342871
>wait, what episode was that from? I don't remember that.
Watch the OP video, anon.
>>135342834
>sticking your dick in medieval prostitute
>getting mysterious STD and infecting Earth with it
Plus it's an order and soldiers (are supposed to)follow orders.
>>135342896
>Plus it's an order and soldiers (are supposed to)follow orders.
It is also implied and made more clear later, that the world powers are observing the JSDF like a hawk and is waiting for an excuse to "intervene for humanitarian reasons".
JSDF want to delay that as much as they can, so they kept their own soldiers on a short leash.
>>135342896
If they are so worried about mysterious diseases they wouldn't go into that world and breathing its air.
>>135342954
That's why they have a quarantine period and a structure built over the gate. They went in because they want to protect the gate (the link to a world they can exploit) on both sides. Had they not gone the assumption was the gate would be torn down and another sneak attack was going to come.
Long story short, breathing is necessary, but fornication with the locals is not so don't take any unnecessary risk.
Instead of showing them how small arms fire can punch through Roman armor, why don't they just bomb the shit out of some empty mountains? It's got a lot more psychological impact.
>>135342954
You need air to live, you don't need sex to live.
>>135342935
Murica has a long involvement with Japan so they know that whatever share JP gets of the resources, they can reasonably expect to get a good cut of it.
USSR feels threatened by the Gate's resources so they want international operation of it, in order to reduce the amount of benefit any civilization gains.
China wants to move its people through the Gate, and once they get enough people there, they'll move the PLA in to "protect" them.
Everyone else has to play by JP's rules.
>>135343204
to expand on what what I mean is that it should be obvious to them that their weapons can penetrate armor already, any of their own soldiers can tell them that.
They've never seen rockets and bombers in action before though.
>>135343253
The mortar demonstration was enough to convince the senators.
>>135343253
You mean the dead ones?
>>135343253
You need to gather everyone and show them the mountain you're going to rek, and if you can do that, you've already beaten them. There's no mass media in the Gateverse.
>>135343204
>>135343253
You don't know how psychological warfare works, do you? The soldiers chose those armored suits to resemble humanoid casualties, so that it gets stuck into the heads of those watching that these were humans that wore the armor, and now they're dead. If you fuck with us this is what will happen, your technology is inferior, even when matched up against the most basic weapons.
I'll dump chapter 52 raw
someone did it yesterday but thread was dead.
>>135343253
>to expand on what what I mean is that it should be obvious to them that their weapons can penetrate armor already, any of their own soldiers can tell them that.
You appear to have not realised one major element in the story; that news travel really slowly and inaccurately in the Empire. We are talking about a complete lack of reliable message delivery. This was the only reason the Empire was able to send the Vassal State troops to their deaths, as they had no idea of what happened until it was too late. The lack of info is the reason why it was so hard to convince the Empire to surrender. Most of the Empire have no idea how outmatched they are and perceive the JSDF's insistence of a peace treaty as a sign of weakness.
