Why is sexuality so overused in anime? I get that people are sexual and we shouldn't be forced to portray people as not. I also get that people are sexual and its ok to try to appeal to that like any other emotion.
But why anime? Why is it one of the defining features. Lots of people try to deny it, but sexy girls are a staple of anime. Its something that the genre is known for with good reason.
Is it the fan influence? I understand that any group of fans will sexualize characters they like. But most media don't choose to focus on it as much as anime does, and when they do its vanilla "hot girl" things. Anime openly alludes to hardcore fetishes in otherwise normal shows, and whole shows are built on what normies would consider weird fetishes.
I really don't know. What's your take /a/?
>>134569258
I should also say that I find sexuality overused because its not realistic. People often defend it as showing a full spectrum of emotion, but I've never met anyone IRL who has is sexual in the manner in which most anime are.
>>134569258
Huh?
Post Maki.
>>134569258
The target audience is men, though the most successful shows do broaden the demographic by including stupid female shit like pretty clothes, friendship shit, forced drama (see the last few episodes of LL for a fantastic example of this) and other girly crap that no guy cares about.
>>134569258
>normie
Get the fuck out of here you piece of shit.
>>134569258
>Anime openly alludes to hardcore fetishes in otherwise normal shows, and whole shows are built on what normies would consider weird fetishes.
Yeah, isn't it great? Also,
>normie
Sexuality is heavily repressed in Japan and is instead showcased in their anime, and these shows appeal primarily to male audiences anyways
>>134569367
>>134569354
>>134569325
I am an anime fan but I never got this. Like, its cool and all, but if I'm watching something like Citizen Kane (just as an example) and there are random upskirt shots I won't like it just because I'm a guy. I see fanservice defended all over the place by saying it is only distracting if the rest is bad, but I just can't agree. Its often tonally inconsistent with the rest of the show.
Most non-anime shows targeted towards guys don't have that. They do have dumb action things and generic hot-girl things, but those are blockbusters and bad TV.
Anime Tiddies and fetishes are cool, but my question really is why are they in anime more. Just because they are for boys doesn't really answer it. Anything that does this in other mediums are called trashy. I don't see people defending walking pairs of tits in a serious drama on TV.
On a personal level, I would prefer it if shows that weren't sexual didn't force things through fanservice, but the shows that are inherently sexual are fine.
>>134569367
Is it really? I've heard that the old guard against it is pretty weak and the societies are openly sexual nowadays. Bookstores are starting to have hentai manga in them again.
>>134569623
Anime isn't for men. It's for manchildren. They tend to be obsessed with sex because they are virgins.
>>134569258
Because within human culture that's more or less the only thing women have; their sexual displays.
>>134569623
You can find hentai at 7/11.
>>134569623
>I would prefer it if shows that weren't sexual didn't force things through fanservice, but the shows that are inherently sexual are fine
And anime is exactly like that. Serious anime don't have cheap fanservice. The problem is different. There aren't many serious anime.
>>134569623
You just made a bunch of claims about the anime industry, but the only title you named was a Western movie that had nothing to do with anything. Actually use examples and specifics instead of generalizations, and I might take you seriously.
>>134569889
Are you sure this is hentai and not ecchi?
>>134569780
I mean, I understand the fan influence, they have a demand and there is a supply to meet it.
But it didn't use to be nearly as much so as it is now. It always had an element of it, but its really blossomed in the last decade or so. Anime fans were always weirdos. What made anime switch?
>>134569889
>>134569796
I know, I have a hard time believing Japan is as oppressed as people say it is.
>>134569835
Anime women aren't like real women as a rule. There are of course exceptions, but that's not how people actually act. If they have that view, its both sad that they do and sad that they are so bad at portraying it.
>>134569623
>seriously comparing chinese cartoons to citizen kane
pull your head out of your ass
Because, anime is a for profit business.
>>134569258
Because feminism hasn't taken hold in Japen.
>>134569941
In the past most shows were for kids. Now otaku are the target audience.
>>134569994
It has nothing to do with feminism.
Cause jap morality Is somewhat different from western shit and It also sells.
>>134569994
It needs to. I want more qt strong female leads and less moeblobs.
>>134570024
Yes it does.
>>134570053
>It
???
>>134569623
>Its often tonally inconsistent with the rest of the show.
You need to clarify this, because I'm 90% sure that the things you're talking about are, in fact, the "blockbusters and bad TV" of anime and not the serious dramas.
>>134570076
morality of course.
>>134570066
Then move to Sweden.
Moe is love.
>>134569258
Why do you say that while posting one of Maki's most innocent and nonsexual scenes?
>>134569623
>I don't see people defending walking pairs of tits in a serious drama on TV
What is Game of Thrones?
>>134570066
There are many strong female characters in Japanese media.
>>134569904
Madoka and Spice and Wolf are two serious ones that have fanservice that come to mind immediately. I agree, I want more serious anime. I know Legend of the Galactic Heroes gets hate, but I would like to see more like that.
>>134569905
What type of things do you want me to clarify? I'm not ignorant, and I can't assume that you haven't at least noticed what I'm talking about.
>>134569942
>>134569905
I only used Citizen Kane as an example of something that would be completely different if there were fanservice, and how tonality matters. An absurdity to highlight what I'm talking about. Nothing more.
>>134570082
Sex can be silly, fun, serious, debaucherous, depressing, scandalous. With fanservice, its meant to be sexy. Its hardly ever used really to enhance the story. If anything its just put in places where they can without being too distracting. Most of what I am saying is in the "blockbusters and bad TV", but I can't think of a recent anime without at least some fanservice. Spice and Wolf and Madoka are examples I said above of otherwise serious shows. Paprika for movies, Ghost in the Shell, Redline, etc. Evangelion has lots even if anno is to be believed on its purpose (I don't).
>>134570124
Yeah, I thought of that after I said it. But it has much more blowback as well.
>>134570069
Of course not. Western shows are in fact much more sexualized than anime. The difference lies in how it's portrayed.
Sexuality in Western media is portrayed as something natural. In anime however it works as cheap fetishization. It's sexuality as seen by a horny teenager. There is very little sex in anime.
>>134570232
Spice and Wolf is not what I'd call serious, it's just comfy. I also remember basically no fanservice in Madoka at all. There was the tiniest bit in the first couple episodes while it was still pretending to be just another magical girl anime but even then it was sparse.
>>134570241
Sexuality in Western shows is not natural. One night stands and fucking around isn't natural, just because it's the norm right now.
Slut.
>>134569623
It's a subculture thing. Obviously if someone is making an anime with Citizen Kane as a goal in mind they won't be putting upskirt shots in for no reason. However, anime is primarily a consumerist, escapist media. You simply have to make what the consumers want which is cute girls and fanservice for most people. Also, for some shows with some elements of seriousness it can be perfectly natural to include various degrees of fanservice, for example, Love Live.
>>134570337
I don't mean serious as in super dark and edgy save the world. Just as in not super silly. I really did like spice and wolf either way. Top Comfy
>>134569889
In the 90s, you used to be able to find Playboy Magazines at the local 7-11 and no one even batted an eye back in America.
>>134570341
>just because it's the norm right now
It's not the norm. Don't believe in everything you read on /pol/.
>>134570232
>Madoka
Whatever small amounts of fanservice it had was really non-intrusive, mostly related to transformation scenes or aesthetic choices.
If you were bothered by the "naked space lesbians" scene, remember that it's common to depict nudity in a mostly nonsexual way when representing a character's soul or inner thoughts, it's a popular Japanese visual shortcut to represent purity of the heart.
>>134570410
How old are you?
>>134569258
Art is a mirror which reflects the light the audience casts upon it.
>>134570341
Not really the norm. Did you know that relationships are lasting longer and marriages are having lower divorce rates too?
The idea of everyone sleeping around is a meme.
>>134570435
29.
>>134570379
I didn't mean it that way either, but you can't look at the way Holo and Lawrence tease back and forth as a "serious" show and I'm also not sure how you managed to miss how the fanservice in it was used in much the same manner, to show Holo's personality. It's a pretty bad example overall because not only is the fanservice in it not everywhere all the time, it's also not breaking the flow and it's being used in a very natural manner.
>>134570410
Lurk more you stupid piece of shit.
It is the norm. Apps like grindr which contribute to easy one night stands have been led to a rise in STDs according to the CDC.
sexuality is everywhere whether you consciously notice it or not and whether you want want to notice or not. don't be brainwashed by hardcore puritans or people who use sexuality to fit their agenda/beliefs only
>>134570434
I didn't have a problem with it really much at all. Madoka is not what I'm talking about.
He was asking for serious shows and I listed madoka as an example. I wasn't trying to say that it had a significant hold over serious anime.
When I said that the type of sexualization in anime was in "blockbusters and bad tv" I was meaning things people are derogatory towards. While its praised by most when its used in anime. I realize that its more in sillier genres.
>>134570465
>lurk more to find about how much cellphone apps contribute to one night stands
Lurk more doesn't mean learn more about random stuff.
>>134570465
I don't think you know what "the norm" means.
>>134570464
I agree. I think we are talking past each other.
Serious anime has fanservice. Usually its nowhere near as prevalent as in silly anime.
I'm just saying it exists.
Its mostly a thing in sillier animes because they aren't gonna care about tone as much. Its just fun. I'm not condemning spice and wolf or madoka or evangelion or anything I listed as bad. Its just places where it exists.
>>134569941
>but it didn't use to be nearly as much so as it is now
Retarded newfag
>>134570548
>inb4 deleted
I feel like the mods have their priorities screwed a bit.
>>134570542
>>134570547
STDs wouldn't get the chance to mutate more if only people stopped having one night stands yet STDs are mutating more and more in America due to people who only think about temporary pleasure rather than life long consequences.
>>134570520
> things people are derogatory towards. While its praised by most when its used in anime
For every critic lambasting Transformers or Twilight or whatever, there are ten people who bought tickets for opening day.
>>134570588
Okay, since I wasn't clear enough the first time I asked, give examples of serious anime where there is distracting and tonally inconsistent fanservice.
Why is this thread still up?
Normalfags need to be purged from /a/.
>>134570341
Is it weird that I feel like I'm being attacked every time someone rants about modern people having loose sexual morality even though I've never had sex in my life?
>>134570588
Then why are you even here if you know that just like in any other media the serious shows don't go for the cheap fanservice and the silly ones do? It's the same stuff. That's why I'm saying your examples are bad, because you make it sound like it's a problem in anime but haven't showed any examples where an otherwise serious show was ruined or lost it's pace to fanservice. Tight clothe, slow motion scenes with girls in wet clothes, sexual implications and the like are in all sorts of western shows when they're not being serious.
>>134570645
I still don't see how it makes it a norm.
>>134570547
It's like you people think we don't go outside or haven't gone to school or something. Sleeping around has been the norm since the fucking 80s.
>>134570410
>invokes /pol/ for every argument against them
Jesus Christ, you people are fucking delusional.
>>134570720
You are not providing any statistics.
>>134570606
It isn't. I've been here and with anime for a really long time. Its not as much. Sure there was less censorship but it just wasn't as much so as it is now.
>>134570646
Sure. I get sex sells. But most movies aren't as kinky as average anime.
Elfin Lied is one.
More about why its accepted and considered more normal than it ruining things. If it were like this in a movie, then it would be considered completely different than megan fox in Transformers.
The tonally inconsistent thing isn't super common. And when it is its not horribly distracting. I'll admit.
>>134570700
Because I'm tired and I'm up too late. I mostly am wanting to know why fans think its more normal than with other shows. I refuse to believe its just because of permavirgin manchildren.
>>134570646
Its not really 'fanservice' when you are doing it as part of the show in the first place. Compare Shinmai Maou no Testament to Valkyrie Mermaid.
Both are aiming for ecchi in the first place. Its like calling them comedies when they clearly are focusing heavily on showing girls off maybe doing lesbian stuff onscreen, yet Mermaid goes much farther and doesn't have a male character in the cast either.
We're watching borderline latenight porn and kids shows.
Never forget that anon. Its not that sexuality is overused so much as its the main reason these shows exist in the first place.
>>134570792
>I refuse to believe its just because of permavirgin manchildren
You're overthinking this. It's that simple.
>>134570792
Most people outside of high school recognize Elfen Lied as a piece of shit for that exact reason. It's popular with thirteen-year-olds and people who watched it when they were thirteen and have seen under fifty anime since.
>>134569325
>The target audience is men
Sure they are.
2D girls are so hot they turn women gay.
>>134569258
Real answer: animation provide extremely fertile ground for this sort of thing, due to the act that A) women can be depicted in an idealized manner, and B) that finding women willing to perform such a role (voice acting a naked 2d girl) is an order of magnitude easier than getting one to go naked onscreen themselves. Combine this with the freedom from American media watchdogs, and it was simply inevitable.
As for the weird fetish thing, that's mostly due to anime's ability to subsist of of niche markets, and again, to not have to worry about raising eyebrows.
I should add that there's nothing wrong with fanservice in animation at all, and if anything, the fact that western animation is so marginalized into specific demographics is the real aberration here.
>>134570801
Did you respond to the wrong post?
>>134570872
We both know OP isn't talking about Prince of Tennis or UtaPri, anon.
>>134569258
That's because Japs don't give a fuck about SJWs, which are ruining the fuck out of western media.
>>134570792
>I mostly am wanting to know why fans think its more normal than with other shows.
Because anime has abandoned the Japanese mainstream and western audiences to cater exclusively to hardcore otaku virgins.
Most anime made today has no creative or artistic aspirations, it's just a way to suck money from these pathetic people who are willing to spend money. Japanese in general are extremely risk averse, and making something good usually requires risk.
>>134570066
>qt strong female leads
>feminism
You want men with tits like in western shit?
It's not sexuality, it's attractiveness, and it's the same everywhere.
>>134570927
LL or K-On were super popular among girls.
>>134570976
>men with tits like in western shit
What does this even mean? Female action heroes are actually more common in Asian media. Including anime.
>>134570996
I'm willing to bet most LL doujins are written by men.
>>134571030
LL has many non-h doujins like every series with yuri subtext. They are usually written by women.
>>134570862
I wouldn't know. I don't really hang out with anime fans in real life. My only exposure on the internet where it seems to get a lot of hate and a lot of defense.
>>134570958
Its not like anime is thriving in quality right now. Just my opinion.
>>134570861
>>134570966
So Japanese mainstream aren't liking it? From what I hear, there are lots of advertisements for things that use animation in japan. Windows 8 for example used anime girls to advertise their product only in Japan.
And do you think there is any chance this stabilizes? Do you think the otaku market is here to stay or there will be more of a push for "creative or artistic asperations" in response to an overflow of this?
>>134571030
It seems most doujinshi are written by men either way.
>>134571018
Western female action heroes are ugly and wear pants. Asian female action heroes are young girls in stockings and short skirts.
>>134571079
This entire post and the shows you've listed are really making me doubt you watch much anime at all.
>It seems most doujinshi are written by men either way.
>>134570872
>>134571030
You would be wrong. Most of doujin authors are female.
>>134571079
>Its not like anime is thriving in quality right now
Define quality.
>>134571100
>are ugly
No. They are always sexy and pretty.
>Asian female action heroes are young girls in stockings and short skirts
Not really.
>>134571123
And I'm saying that men and women work on different doujins in general.
>>134571132
>this post
Why are you really trying so hard to to be right?
>>134571100
Was about to say this. Western women want to be men. Jap stuff keeps the femininity.
>>134571132
This is bait.
>>134571132
>3DPD
>sexy and pretty
>>134571172
Because I am right.
>>134571175
This is not true.
>>134571188
He's not referring to 3D though.
>>134571198
>Because I am right
Could you at least try to convince use that you're right and not full of shit.
Evangelion needed no fanservice except in scenes focusing around Shinji's pent up frustration to illustrate that he's still a normal teenage boy.
>>134571159
But that's wrong. Seriously, go check the gender of some of your favorite porn artists.
>>134571116
I don't know on Doujinshi. Going off memory. I never really read fanworks.
I used to watch anime a lot more than I do now. I'm trying to get back into it but I'm just not liking a whole lot. Not just the lineup we have now, but in general I keep coming back to things I've already watched. I don't know why I stopped watching it as much as I used to. I have no aversion to anime or anything like that.
This wasn't what the thread was about however, the sexuality isn't a big deal or what I am having trouble with, its just something that I was wondering about.
Also the ones I mentioned aren't like my favorite shows or anything. They just stuck out in memory as things I think everyone has seen.
>Why is sexuality so overused in anime?
The majority of TV anime are cheaply made 20-minute-long commercials designed to sell character merchandise to children and manchildren. If you are expecting anything better, you are making a mistake; stick to movies and OVA series if you want to find something that isn't fucking rubbish.
>>134571270
You grew out of anime. Watch live action.
>>134569258
TEENAGERS HAVE HORMONE IMBALANCES
>>134569258
I would suggest that anime is so lewd because it sells, and because it can be.
Anime characters are drawn to the artist's tastes, and are therefore idealized in a sexual way.
Most anime with significant revenue is shonen, and is therefore supposed to appeal to Japanese boys going through puberty.
Those types of anime will consequently feature lewd content in order to catch more viewers when they cast their proverbial net.
Another thing, despite the whole "suppressed" facade, Japan has had pretty liberal views on sexuality for half a millennium, if not always reflected in their laws.
That sort of thing has become normalized through repeated exposure. Same with the references to fetishes.
Calling someone an S or an M is simply a personality quirk in Japan, like someone's Myers-Briggs result.
It also helps that the characters are not real, and hardcore references can be more easily glossed over in a comedic setting with that distinction from reality.
I really do suspect most of it is catering to the audience though. Watch a lot of seinen anime and you'll see different trends emerge. They still contain sexual content, but it is more closely tied to the relationships between characters, or directly to one character's development.
In contrast, shonen anime will use sexual content as comic relief. (see NGE for a notable example of defying this trend)
The cute girls in seinen are more frequently just that, cute, rather than sexy. Their sexualization is more frequently passed over for more paternal feelings of taking care of someone.
Still, fanservice a shit. If you can't find better direction for your writing than blatant fanservice, しね
I've seen too many promising characters ruined by inconsistent writing, lack of characterization, and ridiculous sexualization.
because anime is shit
Don't you ever get tired of complaining over the same shit everyday? Goddamn
>>134571480
OP just came here from his home site, he didn't see any of the million other threads about this.
>>134571344
It might be that. I can't imagine myself growing out of animation in general however. Maybe just anime tropes.
>>134571480
of course not anon! Isn't that what fun is about?
Really, its probably different people and a few trolls.
>>134571480
>>134571499
Home site is here. Not exclusively /a/ however. I just muddled the OP because I was tired. Wasn't meant to be about "u guys r pervs anime is too lewd" but about why it being lewd is considered somewhat normal. Is it a japanese thing, is it because of the fans, or something else?
>>134571567
>I just came here to ask the same retarded question with an obvious answers because I am incapable of thinking for myself
Okay.
>>134571646
I'm still hearing different answers. People are alluding to Japanese cultures and saying its because of their sexuality, some are saying because its normal in other media for less serious shows, and anime is not too serious, some are saying its solely due to otaku.
Im not sure what the obvious answer is just from reading this.
>>134571567
>tropes
>>134571695
>I'm listening to retarded weeaboos speculate on Japanese culture instead coming to the obvious conclusion on my own
Why are you so stupid?
>>134569258
Like it or not, anime is mostly for young teens. Teens = hormones = sex sells.
>>134571695
Perhaps it's a culmination of several contributing factors and not a single factor or the natural progression of things considering all those factors. Ever considered that?
>>134569623
>I am an anime fan but I never got this
No you're not.
>>134571783
He can't even puzzle out sex sells so probably not.
>>134571731
I don't know a better word to use.
>>134571754
I dunno. Just thought I might ask.
>>134571783
Yes. I realize nothing is ever that simple. I wanted to know if there was a timeline and a reasoning that is generally accepted. I wouldn't know if there was a cultural factor that led to it, which led to fans being into it, which led to a demand, etc. Or if there was just a right place/right time of many different factors.
>>134571814
I understand that. The kind of sexuality in anime is a completely different form than western sexualization and that's what I'm talking about. I don't know a word to use for it however.
>>134571852
>I don't know words
>I don't know words
>I though I'd ask the same question that gets asked everyday because I'm a lazy newfag with a shit vocabulary
God you're a retard.
>>134571898
Tell me a word that describes the type of sexualization that is common in anime that isn't in western.
Also tell me a word to use for describing something that is common in media.
>>134569258
Because otakus are the ones making anime.
>>134571852
Also fan service is not new and it's not that much more prevalent you're just viewing the past through rose-tinted glasses
>>134571924
>please teach me English
Lurk more retard
>>134569258
To trigger sjw ?
>ITT: anons getting baited by a retarded ESL
>>134571959
I highly doubt there is even a word for what I'm talking about. If you could just take the three seconds it takes to type the words out for those two concepts then that'd be great, I'd like to learn so I can convey this better. I am pretty sure I used trope correctly and I just don't know a better word for the second.
>>134571942
Maybe
>>134572059
I don't spoonfed newfags
>>134572096
I'm not new. More returning oldfag.
>>134572117
Sure thing newfag
>>134572016
You know What's people called to monolingual only people? Yes, american.
>>134572145
Not sure if bait if or buttblasted ESL
>>134572165
Hello american!
>>134569258
Anime has roots in nerd culture. Almost all nerd stuff is sexualized.
I would say that on the whole I enjoy the less inhibited sexual content of anime. I rarely appreciate heavy fanservice shows myself but it is comforting to know that the ceiling for lewd is above me and not on my level.
>>134572185
Hello person from an irrelevant country
>>134572145
Wat? We speak 4 different languages in America. English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese.
lol stupid foreigners
I think it largely comes down to
1) Anime not trying to be an accurate representation of a possible reality/unreality. It tends to show things in more subjective ways rather than objective, unlike most Western live-action series and movies. Nor it usually tries to keep a straight serious/comical appearance, discussing serious themes in non-serious ways and by non-serious means, or approaching entirely comical themes seriously.
2) Different views on morality and sexuality in Japan than in the West. It was mentioned already, and as someone who's not an expert on this, I'll leave explanation to someone else.
3) Anime industry being somewhat self-contained and less widespread than movie industry in the West, and that leads to increase in usage of tropes mostly static audience likes and ruling out the rest. That's not exactly the case when you're trying to appeal to as large of an audience as possible.
4) Radical "feminists", purity and censorship fighters we find in the West having much less prevalence in and impact on Japan, allowing inclusion of all the stuff that would be harshly "criticized" by those people to appear freely.
And you might just be changing out of tune with where the industry is going, becoming more of a normalfag.
>>134570792
>Sure there was less censorship but it just wasn't as much so as it is now.
If you think the amount of fanservice in anime is new then you either don't know what you're talking about or your definition of "last decade" starts in the 80s.
>>134572185
What country do you hail from, nigger-kun?
>>134572199
Sure fag!
>>134572197
Hello burgerfag people!
Top kek
>>134572246
>there are teenagers learning English from 4chan ITT right now
How terrifying
>>134572246
>Sure fag!
No worries, you will learn about America and all it's different countries in 5th or 6th grade.
>>134572277
>nigger and faggot will be spoken casually in general conversations
Glorious.
>>134572277
>>134572287
I don't need to learn english. It's the easiest language ever. You folks need to be less idiot, though.
>>134572210
To add onto this their non existant birthrates are probably more motivation. Most cultures don't need to see lewd everywhere because kids are already doing stuff like that in their early teens and earlier.
>>134571695
The short answer is that people like it and it sells and there were people willing to capitalize on that. If you're looking for an explanation about the long-term development of the industry or something, I don't think anyone on /a/ has more than idle speculation, but I think it probably has to do with the smaller, more niche nature of anime and manga compared to Hollywood or whatever. The animation niche overlaps with the animated porn niche, and the industry is/was broad enough, with a low enough entry barrier, that people could cater to that. The audience for Western cartoons is mostly children and for live-action is just the average person, and both are dominated by a few large companies that profit the most if they aim for the mainstream.
>>134572325
>says the kid from Columbus Ohio
>>134572325
>it's the easier language ever
>you're still fucking it up semis consistently
Wew lad
>>134572363
>semis
What?
>>134572165
Its a part of our language; we use it wrong all the time.
>>134572392
>he doesn't even know about semis
Fucking ESL
>>134572408
You could at least explain it without being an ass.
>>134572408
This fanservice talk is teaching me all about semis.
>>134572363
> the easier
> semis
Whelp i think you cannot even speak properly to even be called monolingual You are mostly zero lingual at best.
>>134572419
;
these things.
They are mostly use to combine two clauses without a conjunction.
>>134572407
Which part? His grammar was fucked
>>134572419
Drunk typos
>>134572407
> its
I see an american education cannot even teach its people proper english. You are idiot. top kek.
This thread is autistic. Fanservice is awesome.
>>134572449
typo
>>134572470
>It's just typo ;^)
Fuck off.
>>134572449
>trying to attack when your basic sentence structure is atrocious
One is mistake, the other is ignorance
>>134572470
> i'm pretend to be retarded
Sure stupid.
>>134572493
> american hypocrisy and ignorance
Nothing i said will correct you, m8.
>>134572528
You can't even write a proper sentence lad.
>>134572511
>>134572528
Holy fucking shit. Do us all a favor and kill yourself already.
>>134572550
Implying i cared zerolingual bitch. top lel
>>134572551
You need to say to yourself zerolingual bitch.
>>134572583
>I d-don't even care
Embarrassing
>>134572608
How's that damage control working out for you?
>>134572608
>>134572583
>zerolingual
I'm sorry, but why are you using a greek prefix on a latin root?
>>134569258
the money, you idiot
>>134569258
all i wanna say is you're a cool op and all your posts are well thought out, good luck trying to have intelligent discussion here.
>>134572881
He's retarded
