SSJ4 Gogeta would hand Beerus' ass to him, easily.
Discuss.
Vegito could beat both easily through sheer canonicity.
>>134447125
Potara was stronger than the Fusion Dance in that it was permanent and quick, not actually physically stronger
how stronk would SSJGSSJ Vegito be?
>>134448105
Strong enough to beat base Madara.
>>134448105
strong
>>134448105
Whis said that goku and vegeta working together would be pretty much unstoppable
>>134446818
Gogeta SSJ4 is Goku SSJ level at best
Beerus and Chompa with Portua Earrings vs SSJGSSJ+ Gogeta who wins
>>134446818
No matter how strong a 2 dimensional being is he cannot defeat a 3 dimensional being. The same is true when speaking of a mortal and a God. If Gogeta had access to divine Ki it would actually be a fight. But he doesn't.
>>134448759
>Chompa
>>134446818
>Discuss.
IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.
DBZ is going in a very bad an ruinous direction. Super isn't good, RoF was a disappointment, Gods is full of plot holes that should have been avoided.
I mean we can ignore GT but Toriyama is working directly on the new series. This isn't exactly looking good.
Toriyama doesn't give a fuck about consistency and he is going to ruin this legacy if he keeps this up.
The last time I felt excitement was during Frieza saga and the final moments of the Buu saga. The rest have been average.
Also pic fucking related.
Shenron was scared of Beerus so that right there proves ssj4 goku is weaker than Beerus considering ssj4 Goku couldn't handle Omega.
>>134448013
learn to read
DBZ is fucked.
>>134450638
but ssj4 goku did kill omega but he just reformed also ssj4 and ssg are about equal in power
>>134449455
I haven't seen shit tier bait of this caliber in a while.
>>134448773
I don't know, 2 dimensional beings could give you a nasty papercut. If a 2d being could somehow navigate 3d space while still being infinitely thin, it could do some crazy shit.
Just by turning perpendicular to you it becomes completely invisible and completely invincible while at the same time slicing anything that touches it in half.
>>134453124
Is this the standard reply to anything anons disagree with?
"call someone who disagrees with you crazy, that way you can nullify all of his points and nobody would take him seriously"
Anons version
"just say it's a bait without explaining why lol"
I seldomly call someone retarded but I'm really tempted to, right now.
>>134453569
Yes, I agree. It's especially a poor reply when the logic of the alleged bait is apparently sound.
blue super saiyan gogeta when?
>>134453623
Then explain. At least 12 year olds these days try to put forward an explanation.
>>134453851
Ur a 12 year old
>>134448013
Oh god, how can someone say and believe something so wrong
>>134449455
>Not liking Cell Saga
Where did they touch you, Anon? Point it out on the doll.
Nope.
>>134454879
>Shoopdewhoop
Now that is a meme I have not seen in a long, long time...
>>134454825
There were too many plot holes. Gero and Cell could have been easily killed but they were let off for the sake of furthering the plot. Case in point, Vegeta allowed Cell to transform causing needless damage (Vegeta did the same thing in Frieza and Buu saga because he's an idiot).
Power levels didn't mean anything because
1) Humans were pretty much useless except for Tien
2) Only super saiyans ended up making any difference
Moreover there was no more suspense. Unlike Frieza saga, where power levels meant something that even the villains were bound by, Cell saga didn't have much of that. Cell saga was also the point where the bullshit powerups really began in the Z series.
Also: >>134454879
I hate looking at Goku's stupid face now.
threadly reminder that saitama kicks out the ass of songoku
>>134455311
its okay anon. we forget a lot of things.blackbob niggerpants
>OPMfags still butthurt Goku shitstomps Saitama
>Spamming and flooding every thread
Fucking kek
>>134455441
Saitama isn't even planetbuster tier...
>>134455592
People like you only make it worse, half of them don't even believe or care what they're saying, they do it only to get reactions
>>134448488
So who can defeat Madara Uchiha? You know, THAT one.
>>134455441
>kicks out the ass
>leave for a couple years
>DBZ threads
>one piece
>naruto threads
what is /a/ coming to
>>134455660
Shit. Like I said before, /a/ buts the "a" in cancer.
>>134455311
It's even an on-topic meme, since it was originally a DBZ meme.
>>134455592
>OPMfags still butthurt Goku shitstomps Saitama
Actually, Goku isn't going to shitstomp anything as long as he's vulnerable to Stormtroopers and their stray laser beams.
>>134455592
Didn't you say the same thing about Capefags shitting on Goku and his laser weakness?
What excuse or fandom will you blame when DBS gets to the laser episode?
beerus looks lame as fuck, same with pic related. whatever happened to cool dragonball villains?
>>134455660
>leave for a couple years
teach me how to leave this prison
>>134455660
what a good time to be alive
>>134454879
>lazarr
You just brought me back to middle school, nigga
>>134454879
This meme is getting out of control.
>>134455592
Daily reminder.
>>134456182
This really was one of the dumbest things DB could have done. I honestly don't see how this even made it to storyboarding, much less past that. It wasn't even the big bad that took him down, but some henchmen with a device that feasibly anybody could use. Way to completely shit on your character, and ruin any sort of credibility they ever had.
>>134456498
Fucking true.
>>134456498
>It wasn't even the big bad that took him down, but some henchmen with a device that feasibly anybody could use.
I know. Isn't it great?
>>134456498
Goku lowered his guard. Hell, Dende killed vegeta, krillin injured nappa. , all because their guards were down. DBZ/S actually works with that instead of thier characters always being invulnerable at all times like other, shittier writings.
>>134456498
>It wasn't even the big bad that took him down
Actually Frieza did weaken him to the point that could hurt him, once he let his guard down.
>>134457907
You're saying that a random laser pistol is more powerful than Dende?
>>134446818
>implying he would have enough energy to move if he goes past SS3
>>134450638
ssj4 Gogeta was so much stronger than Omega Shenron that he couldn't take the fight seriously and wasted so much time messing with him that he defused.
Shenron is only as strong as Dende is.
>>134458218
The whole point of that scene was to show what happens when you lower your guard and don't keep your Ki lvl high for surprise attacks like that.
Whis said it in the movie and in Super "when you lower your guard even the most stupid of the attacks will damage you"
>>134448105
I thought that SSJG was more powerful than SSJGSSJ
>>134458786
Power levels don't mean anything any more.
>>134457307
goku on par with literal gods gets killed by a laser
kid goku who was maybe hercule tier got shot in the face and only got a small bruise
First Superman gets killed by rocks and now Goku gets killed by lasers.
The list of adversaries that could stand a chance against Saitama is becoming laughably short.
>>134446818
SSJ4 goku or vegeta alone would destroy beerus' butthole. GT best dragonball
>>134459433
>Saitama
Kek come back when he's at least a planet buster.
Hell Toriko characters can beat him.
>>134459502
Planet busting doesn't mean shit. Goku is a multi-galaxy buster and Superman is not, but Superman can still beat Goku because Goku has limits and he hasn't.
Saitama can beat both of them because one punch is all it takes for him to win.
>>134459542
Nigga can you read? Saitama isn't a planet buster yet.
>>134459692
Can you read?
It doesn't fucking matter.
>>134459718
>I can't
Hit the books son.
>>134459692
Neither is a rock or a small laser gun.
>>134459738
>No you
>>134448773
Lel near 100% chance that eh guy who gave Beerus his best fight has no divine ki.
>>134458786
>I thought that SSJG was more powerful than SSJGSSJ
In the movie, that was possible, but it's certainly not the case in Super. Goku in standard SSJ, post saiyan god absorbed, was said to be as strong as SSJ God - so SSJGSS has to be much stronger.
>>134449455
Maybe you should stop taking DB so seriously and just enjoy it for what it is, which is silly fighting&adventuring fun.
>>134460191
>SSJGSS has to be much stronger.
This would mean that Beerus is either weaker than current Goku or that he contained an absurd portion of his total power in his fight against SSG Goku.
>>134460279
I think dbs said he used like 70% of his total strength.
>>134460191
I assume it's only because it was right after getting a power up, so the god power was still easy to gather use. Months later just tapping to part of it and going cyan would be considered a success.
>>134453569
First off the image. I doubt any professional actually cares about the horrendously shit series that is Death Battle. Honestly, at times their research is below skimming a wikia article. Often, it's below even that. That picture itself is questionable. 40 Tonnes? Can anyone who actually read the manga besides me step up?
Secondly just the entire purpose of the post. Such bad research could be an attempt to provoke. On other words, it's bait. Why can't people actually do research?
>>134455411
>plot holes
Those aren't holes. They're in character. Vegeta is overconfident and happy for a fight.
>>134456498
Quit being a faggot and read the manga.
>>134461279
>/a/
>read the manga
Have we accepted that DBS became as unoriginal, and a waste of potential like GT with the current arc? I mean, good lord
>remember when Piccolo got shot with multiple ki blasts? Now we're doing it to Gohan
>hey, guys, do you remember when Frieza shot a beam through Piccolo?
>look, guys, Frieza remembers Trunks cutting him, look it's that scene where Trunks cuts him, do you remember that?
>>134448013
I know this is bait, but Potara Rings are worn by Kais (Gods). Vegito is a fusion creation from the use of God items, Vegito is Kai level and has a better shot then Gogeta.
>>134449455
i feel you anon, anyone that can't turn their brain off to enjoy things knows that dragon ball is already dead and toriyama only want those shekels
>Super Saiyan God is the key to all of this
>Bills and Whis are funnier characters than we ever had
A game said Vegito's power level is higher then SS4 Goku's, SS4 Goku's is 1,500,000,000, assuming Vegito is the same (At his weakest, basically) his Super Saiyan 2 form alone (75,000,000,000) would easily outclass Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (8,750,000,000,000).
>>134466483
Also for the record, even Super Gogeta could have beaten Omega Shenron, and consider Base Vegito is probably about the same power level he could too.
>>134464872
The irony its that yes, Beerus and Whiss are the best characters DB ever had, they have great chemistry and are actually likeable.
>>134448773
>Bleach logic in a DBZ thread
>Bleach "logic" in general
>>134460254
He mentioned DBZ instead of just Dragon Ball. That was a surefire sign he doesn't get the series.
>>134461661
>/a/-anime and manga
>>134461661
Never post here again.
>>134449455
>he is going to ruin this legacy
He already did with the Cell Saga which was even worse than GT
The last time the Dragon Ball series felt like Dragon Ball was during the Freeza Saga after that it all went to shit
>>134455411
>Vegeta did the same thing in Frieza and Buu saga because he's an idiot
No he didn't actually
Freeza was too strong for him in any form
Buu was the same shit...he even sacrificed himself in an attempt to kill him but it had no effect
>>134458340
Yeah...King Piccolo destroyed Shenron in Dragon Ball too
>>134458980
>kid goku who was maybe hercule tier
This is the most retarded thing I've read in this thread
Roshi could destroy the moon in Dragon Ball
Kid Goku was far beyond "Hercule"(*barfs*) even in the beginning of the series
>>134461968
GT at least had decent production values(on par with DB/DBZ at least) and a great soundtrack
Can't say the same for Super which is just garbage
>>134469421
Incorrect, hercule could beat kid Goku, and he could feasibly beat roshi. He obviously can't blow up the moon since he doesn't manipulate ki, and chooses not to as a rule, but just because he's a joke, doesn't mean the guy is entirely useless.
>>134469421
Bump
>>134469601
>hercule could beat kid Goku, and he could feasibly beat roshi
Holy fucking shit...kill yourself Z Baby
Nam would stomp the shit out of Mr.Satan let alone Kid Goku and Master Roshi
Just shut the fuck you meme sperglord you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
>>134469601
Oh please even Arale could beat hercule. Hercule is a garbage character whose only achievements were birthing Videl so she could birth Goten later; and befriend Majin Buu so he could help Goku against Kid buu.
The story had to be written around this loser.
>>134470104
Arale is supposed to be around cell's level, so I don't see how that factors into anything.
Who would win:
omega shenron fusion with wis
or berus fusion with mystic ss5 gogeta?
>>134470104
>Be Hercule
>Literally save the universe with the power of friendship
>Rednecks shoot my new buddy's dog
>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>134470623
neither. ssg pan fused with bra wearing a string bikini.
>>134470104
>>134470543
Arale is a gag character(which is why she does crap like destroy a planet with her bare hands)
Videl doesn't give birth to Goten she gives birth to Pan
Regardless Mr.Satan is a joke and even Nam could beat him
Let alone Kid Goku,Roshi,Kid Krillin,DB Yamcha,General Blue,Tao Pai Pai etc.
>>134470623
No stop this is as bad as sun made of ice vs sun made of fire.
>>134470543
Alright fine. Mercenary Tao.
>>134470816
Why is that not a thing?
Add in Maron from the Garlic Jr Saga(that huge titty gf of Krillin who looked like Bulma) and holy shit
>>134470623
> mystic
> ssj
pick one
>>134470993
Tao Pai Pai is stronger than Roshi so yeah he would stomp the fuck out of Mr.Satan
And as said above even Nam would beat the fuck out of him
Hell even Boss Rabbit would beat him(would turn him into a Carrot lmao)
>>134470934
Shit I mean to say Pan, I don't know why I said Goten. Thanks for correcting the embarrassing mistake.
And yes I still dislike Hercule. He doesn't do anything but gets all the credit. And the rest of the characters are going "hyuk hyuk, we're good guys with hearts of purity, we'll let it slide"
>>134471102
I dislike Mr.Satan because he took Roshi's spot as the "comic relief" character
He's not funny at all...he's just annoying
>>134471173
It would make sense, he's Toriyama's favourite character after all.
>>134471216
That's not Piccolo
>>134471264
Really? I read some time back that it was hercules. How weird.
>>134471334
FFS his name is Mr.Satan D:<
Anyways...Piccolo is his favorite according to him
He hates Vegeta though
>>134448773
There is nothing special about god ki. They never made a super saiyan god ceremony for vegeta but he surpassed goku's god level by simply training. And at that point saying "Goku would beat Vegeta because he am no real super god" would be definitely wrong.
>>134472407
>There is nothing special about god ki.
It's blue.
>>134472801
It's crap. Any sane DBZ fan knows there is no saving the series.
>>134473196
Blue means it's hotter.
>>134449455
>Saitama can easily redirect a laser beam by NotFreeza
>Goku gets rekt by a literally who with a laser pistol
>CLEARLY GOKU MUST BE STRONGER XD
Man, DBZ-fans are the true cancer
>>134474191
Yeah sure. The series is cold blue however.
Guys come on there's one saiyan that we all know would stomp both beerus and ssj4 gogeta and his power is maximum!
>>134456182
Who gives a fuck about Superman? He's Sasuke's bitch
>>134449455
>Thinking Toriyama gives a fuck about a meme fight made by amerifats
>>134470993
Depends on the time and place they're fighting. Sun made of Ice would win at night since it's colder, Sun made of fire would have the advantage in a desert, etc. Plus, what are their power levels anyway?
>>134446818
SSJ4 Gogeta doesn't exist so obviously he can't hand even Pilafs ass to him.
>but my laser hurting goku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_OT-ahaYbQ
>>134461279
Ok faggot I read the manga.
I guess goku didn't see that coming did he?
>>134482377
thanks for posting filler nigger.
