Jack is fucking crazy
sanji is the best character
No other thread?
>>134040250
No, no otter thread, just OP talk allowed
Yawn, Wake me up when Luffy Gear 4th's the Shit outta him. heck he'll probably only need Gear 3.
So Nami blew the gas away and Chopper nursed the minks to health?
King mink got btfo by Jack. Mink army got btfo by poison gas.
>Jack straight up nuke the fuck out of the minks
>>Oda introduces intimidating as fuck character
>>probably can tank hits like nobody the strawhats have ever faced before
>>instantly /a/ thinks he's a jobber
Ace a cute
>>134040194
Anyone think that Jack might have a speech impediment or something? I think he has a thing against talking.
>>134040445
When a charcter seems so powerful nearly invincible, then one of the SH would come out as their natural enemy, and will have a natural advantage or the high ground in the fight.
Perona - Usopp
Enel - Luffy
So maybe Jack will be scared AF of Chopper because he thinks he is a giant mouse or some shit like that.
>>134040445
They say that because Wanda said they had the upper hand, which makes sense because they're used to fighting in the forest. But they still lost and got tortured.
I noticed that when the minks attacked the Pleasures, they were still smiling even after they were hit
>>134040550
The few lines he has in this chapter doesn't indicate any different pattern in his speech.
>>134040562
I like it
Itll be more interesting than luffy just smashing him with gear 4.
I honestly think zoro will fight him if anyone is going to fight him at all on zou.
Reminder that doffy and doffyfags got epic BTFO
>mfw they were btfo so hard they don't dare speak up anymore
sorta like the sabo's dead the data book said so guys
>>134040550
I don't think so, he just doesn't bullshit around. Kind of like Crocodile, but with more power.
jack confirmed for shit
can't even destroy a single country
3 Calamities kinda sounds like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, especially with this drought stuff.
I wonder if X Drake is one of them and who the other one is.
Maybe we'll get another cool Ancient Zoan.
Sabretooth tiger anyone?
Ahahhahah, Zoro's just like "I knew this shit would happen from day fucking one".
Man, I love this guy.
>>134040598
Even if Wanda was right she was speaking in collective terms. Even so, why would you take what a character says as 100% fact?
>>134040648
did Doffy touch you in a bad place?
>>134040358
You're retarded
>>134040668
>>134040618
Oda gives a lot of his characters quirks. I find his "no talking" stance mad suspect.
>>134040689
Your bait is weak
>>134040709
>doffyfag
looool
>>134040698
This might sound weird but I can see Sanji and Absalom teaming up against a calamity. No idea why but I just have a feeling.
>>134040739
When he says "we're no here to have a conservation" he means he's not going to negotiate.
>>134040648
Nobody got 'BTFO' but the retards who thank the victory of a protagonist from a shonen manga was unexpected.
>>134040689
Bobbin on the other hand casually destroyed a country for Big Mom.
Kaidou confirmed weakest Yonkou crew.
>>134040766
he's just some shitty kaido underling
>>134040358
For Luffy to call someone strong means he considers them on his own level, or, historically, stronger than himself (Rayleigh). So someone as strong or stronger than Luffy already lost to Jack.
>>134040884
Luffy has lost before and there was bunch of people on the island who could take Doffy down (Issho, Sabo, Burgess, Hakuba, Chinao)
>>134040884
To be fair, Luffy does lose a lot. He got instantly chucked into water due to his own stupidity and would have drowned. Crocodile, Lucci, Sabaody, Impel Down, Marineford. Even against Caesar.
Just saying.
>>134040928
You're not even trying.
You're better off complaining about Sheepshead.
>>134040928
For all we know Jack is stronger than Marco.
>>134040550
>a character asserts his dominance by refusing to parley
>the first thing that to occurs to an OP autist is that he has speech impediment
>>134041021
what des the average usopp fag look like
>>134040194
How strong are the Minks compared to other armies of mooks in One Piece? Even the kids have electricity + martial arts.
Here's what I think
Kamabakka Okama masters > Sugar's immortal headcracker army > General Zombies = Gifters > Minks > Amazon Lily's Haki villagers > regular Zombies > Hody's fishman forces > Pleasures > regular armies of marines/pirates
>>134041028
how do we know that?
I think so too but Id like to know where you see proof
>>134041021
Is this a c.uck joke or "black people love Sanji" joke ?
>>134041106
>for all we know
It's not known my point was just that yonko underlings can be strong, and this one definitely is via the proof that Luffy called someone he defeated strong.
>>134040994
>Issho
Not really. Doffy would never put his social place and the safety of his family in the line if he isn't confident that he can at least pretty badly hurt Fujitora and incapacitate him. His meteorites were nothing to him while Law shat his pants.
>Sabo
Nope. Sabo won against Burgess (a retard) and his new with his flame power. He didn't want to push his luck and go all out against Fujitora because he didn't want to risk heavy injuries. Luffy knows his power perfectly and was a better match against Doffy.
>Burgess
Ah ah, very good joke.
>Hakuba
Yes, because speed is clearly very useful against Doffy. Are you completely nuts? Even Robin said 'Fuck you' to Hakuba and Doffy is miles beyond Robin in terms of 'Fuck you, stay right here.'
>Chinjao
In his prime, maybe. Now, Doffy is just too much agile and proficient with his power for him to strike hard.
>>134041028
Look man, if Oda gave a fuck about this guy he would have put more effort into hyping this dude up.
Just compare Jack's treatment to Weeble. You can tell who Oda gives more fucks about.
>>134041083
I don't think the duke is going to be an ungrateful prick like that. Apparently it's not just the Sanji crew that he's thanking so it's most likely something to do with Luffy kicking Caesar's ass or taking down Kaido's supplier.
Reminder that wb had to defeat all the other yonko to be titled the strongest man in the world, and he jobbed to Kizaru multiple times.
>>134040994
>citation needed
We have no idea whether any of the characters you listed could have defeated Doflamingo, except:
Hakuba - Lost to Robin
Burgess - good one mate
Chinjao - Defeated without gear 4
who certainly could not.
>>134041097
sky warriors also, they werent that weak
also, regular marines> bounty hunters
>>134041304
Kizaru couldn't even beat Marco. Kizaru basically waited till Whitebeard had a seizure or took massive damage from outside forces, blasted him, and then ran away.
>>134040427
Fucking speed readers it was states the furries would have won if jack didn't use ceasers weapon
>>134040194
What's wrong with his Tusks?
Man, I'm really loving the minks.
>>134041346
It states that their army would have won, not that king mink would have beaten Jack 1v1. Caesar's weapon is AOE.
>>134040739
Relevant characters don't generally have quirks when in serious mode. The only exception I can think of is Sanji refusing to hit Kalifa.
>>134041021
Hol up
u be sayin
If i become a sanjifag
I'll be druwning in pussy or sumthang?
>>134041320
True, I think the Skypeians might could equal or slightly exceed Hody's average fish thug and Enel's divine soldiers (the sheep things) just below that.
>>134041346
You're saying the SAME THING as the other poster you replied to. Reading comprehension problem, m8?
>>134041308
>Hakuba - Lost to Robin
Highly debatable. She only stopped him because she had enough time to see him coming.
>>134041466
also ine one piece you can "lose" to weaker people due to unfortunate match ups and luck, the only reasons why luffy defeated crocodile and enel
>>134041396
I don't get it. Jack is consistently shown as an insane rager and violent prick. Of course he's not going to have a peacful fucking conversation with some nobodies.
Not really. He's just big.
>>134041540For you
>>134041532
Enel losing to Luffy was raw plot armour, nothing more. Considering Enel can basically see what Luffy is going to do before Luffy does it, he should've known that he was going to throw the golden ball at him stupidly fast and been able to just zap somewhere else.
>>134040445
Why wouldn't we think he's jobber when he's already jobbed once? He hasn't shown anything impressive.
>>134041466
I don't think she'd be able to do that to Zoro, considering Fujitora couldn't.
>>134041068
Like normal people that is smart enough to don't use 4chan or facebook memes
>>134041599
I thought the same thing, but I have a head canon for that, though it's kinda ridiculous:
When luffy was about to punch him, enel decided to dematerialize once the ball came close, but as soon as it touched the electricity, he discharged due to gold being an extremely good conductor, and his real body became vulnerable
>>134041746
You're right, that was fucking retarded considering Enel had shown himself to be able to straight up move through an amount of gold that the ball was only a fraction of with no problems.
>>134041795
i wish someone would have asked oda what's up with that, so he could at least pull something out of his ass
>>134041639
To be fair, it comes down to the match up, like he was saying. Zoro is insanely strong physically. Cavendish is quick as a motherfucker but his feats of strength kinda lack.
>>134041746
>>134041827
>>134041795
The reason was that the punch was too fast, right ? No matter what kind of god you are, what kind of insane CoO you have, what kind of speedy Logia you have, if your reactions are shit, it all means fuck all. Enel simply couldn't react in time. He saw the fist, barely finished a thought, got smashed.
Episode 719 was shit. I know the anime is shit but 719 was especially bad
Orlumbus throwing Zoro was so cool in the manga
>>134041599
i think at that point enel was so confused/angry and in an exctasy kind of state that he wasnt even using his CoO anymore
>>134041610
>jobbed
>to former fleet admiral
>and an admiral with fucking gravity powers on a ship
I like how this term has evolved over the years. Job just basically means lose now.
>>134041835
Hakuba wouldn't even be able to cut Doflamingo through his string though, I agree that the matchup is important and there's no way Hakuba would beat Doflamingo other than act of god.
>>134041348
Never seen mammoth tusks? They are bending in strang ways
>>134041906
You don't need to react to anything when you can see what someone is going to do seconds before they do it. Even if he couldn't sense Luffy's intention to throw the ball insanely fast, he'd see the ball itself building up more and more speed before it's actually built the speed up. Like damn son nigger you can't surprise a guy who can see into the future through a person's intent like that.
>>134040977
True, I don't remember a single instance of Luffy calling someone strong when they weren't ridiculously so.
>>134041934
Oh, of course, there's no doubt about that. I wasn't the guy who said that. Hell, Cavendish was stunned at seeing Gear 4. Pretty sure he would just sleepwalk right into Doffy's strings.
>>134041404
das rite
Reminder that Sanji casually one shot Jack's right hand man.
>>134041108
its at least 3 memes in one
>>134041984
Except he has to consciously use Haki to know the future. Enel was cocky as fuck at that point and wanted to end it by stabbing Luffy. It was only after he saw the anus ripper 9000 that he realised he fucked up.
Any Pandaman sightings on Zou yet?
>>134042053
I can't even tell if this is bait or plain stupidity these days.
>>134042053
Sanji is a badass motherfucker though.
>>134042157
It still seems like a huge stretch that this even worked. Putting aside the ridiculous weight of the ball and the impossible waver ride, all Enel had to do was take a step to the side and watch Luffy fall. End of the fight, Enel wins. Then again that means Luffy may have wrecked his ship.
It's still the most desperate attack we've seen in One Piece so far.
>>134041340
While I completely disagree that he jobbed to Kizaru, the latter was shown to attack Whitebeard multiple times, not just 'when wb had a seizure'. Don't be silly.
>>134042330
>a huge stretch
Ayyy
Also, seriously ? Anon, you can't bring logic into stuff like this. You just can't. Shit, Luffy could have been killed by Buggy in like chapter 8 if we brought logic into it. Enel simply was a cocky guy who thought he could deal with it. Clearly, he was wrong. That's all there is to it. Don't think about it too much, bro.
Everyone remember to do your best to appreciate Penguin today!
One Piece manga or anime?
>>134042389
The attack you just posted didn't hit Whitebeard. The only time he did was when Whitebeard was wounded badly by someone else or literally just had a seizure or both.
>>134042601
His point was that Kizaru didn't wait till WB was weakened to attack him. No one said anything about actually hitting the target.
>>134040994
>Issho
Yea I can see it happening. With some difficulty.
>Sabo
Maybe. Depends on how serious Issho was in his fight against him.
>Burgess
Jobbed like a bitch throughout the chapter.
Sadly he didn't have a strong showing at all, which is sad I like the dude. Wish he had better post timeskip design though.
>Hakuba
Very low probability, he was stopped by Robin. He'll need more showings.
>Chinao
At his prime totally, Garp at his prime had to train for his ass. But not as we saw him, Luffy didn't need to pull out Gear 4th for him.
>>134042574
anime is ok until episode 315
then manga
>>134042574
Go ahead and watch those 700+ episodes by fucking Toei senpai
>>134042601
it was a misunderstanding, I thought you were meaning to carry on the already-discussed point of 'kizaru is a coward and only attacks wb when he's weakened and is having a seizure'. I agree with you about that, he only managed to land a hit with that sneaky attack
>>134042637
he shot a similar AOE to what he used against Law's submarine from a great distance in that page.
He never approaches whitebeard to attack him unless Whitebeard is having a seizure/was just massively wounded/both, and then immediately runs. You might not like this fact but it is one.
>>134042646
Sabo who learned to control his fruit properly would certainly be a match for Doffy, and even in his current state, he probably could have managed. I think it makes sense that the power hierarchy between the three brothers would be maintained over time, so Ace > Sabo > Luffy.
>>134042655
I'd argue it was great until the Timeskip. Thriller Bark was pretty amazing, especially Zoro vs Ryuuma. They did justice to the Kuma scene as well. Sabaody was amazing too. Marineford is where it gets kinda tedious, in my opinion.
>>134042574
manga in till water 7
I swear if I read the word that starts with j and ends with ber one more time I will fucking kill you all
>>134042743
Yea I can't see Sabo being an easy win for Doffy even without the fruit.
I just don't know if he'd actually be capable of BEATING Doffy.
>>134042782
same thing with the two words that begin with an 'admiral' and end with a 'level'. I can't fucking stand this retarded term anymore.
>>134042700
Nigga, why the fuck would he ? That's like saying Usopp is shit because he only snipes people, not fight them at melee. Dude is the strongest man in the World, no matter how sick he is.
I hope Chopper gets a qt mink gf. I hope Robin gets jealous.
>>134042782
What word ? Jobber ?
>>134042814
let it be. We've already had this discussion and it got stupid incredibly fast. To sum it up, a ranged attack does not qualify as an attack and because he didn't get close he's a coward.
Yeah, I know.
>>134042823
I want to be married to a strong mink woman
>>134042743
ace is a shitter
Currently
Sabo=Luffy>>Ace
>>134040736
No you.
>>134042782
jobber?
>>134042854
>>134042867
good, this is what you wanted
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUU
I hate Usopp, he's the biggest jobber of shounen manga
I wonder what Jacks quirk will be.
It'll be nice to have a flawed villain again.
Doffy was a gary Stu
>>134041404
trying too hard aniki
>>134042864
Luffy is stronger now than Ace was before he died but pre-timeskip, I'm fairly certain Ace was still stronger than Luffy.
What's the most broken DF combo you can think of?
>Sugar + Absalom
>>134042902
>>134042905
the memes
they just keep coming
I want the SHs to get defeated by Kaidou and have a training arc with the Minks and Wano Samurai.
>>134042905
His quirk was that he's flamboyant as fuck.
>>134042934
Sugar + Robin
>>134042928
Ace was Admiral Level
The only reason he lost to sakazuki was because of DF weakness.
He fought on par with Kuzan
>>134042934
Robin + dick dick fruit
>>134042896
Come on, anon. I know you smiled.
>>134042970
Wasn't obvious though and no he wasn't he just wore flashy clothes.
If you have to give him a quirk, it would have to be his arrogance/superiority complex/narcissism
>>134042934
Nikyu Nikyu + Ito Ito
Birdcage and then you repel people and throw them against it. Easy.
>>134042990
FUCK YOU
AND YOUR ADMIRAL LEVEL
HOLY SHITAND IF HE WAS NOWHERE NEAR CLOSE THE STRENGHT OF KUZAN LIKE HELL HE WOULD'VE LOST TO BLACKBEARD
>>134042990
He may not have even lost. The fight was never completed. He died immediately after their first clash because Akainu decided that Ace was a burden and Luffy was an easy kill.
>>134042934
Easy. Kuma + Sugar.
>>134042990
>fought on par with Kuzan
>got defeated by Blackbeard
>Blackbeard fled from Sakazuki
>Sakazuki defeated Kuzan
?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bq8XlJ4NjE
Who /waiting for 808/ here
>>134042990
He did? When?
>>134042905
His quirk is that he jobs. He's got the jobber jobber no mi.
>>134043045
>STRENGHT
LEARN TO FUCKING SPELL WORDS CORRECTLY NIGGER
>>134043045
Blackbeard would wreck Kuzan, he would draw all the ice into darkness, pull Kuzan, and break his neck. This is pre quake.
>>134042782
Jobber
Fucking Oda is teasing the fuck out of us with Sanji and nobody even asked where Caesar is so far. Dammit I am getting impatient
>>134043079SORRY
So what happened to Sanji?
>>134042934
caesar and barto
>>134043082
Yeah, this wouldn't happen at all.
>>134042990
>Ace was Admiral Level
Then I guess Pre-Quake BB was Admiral Level too? You're fanboying a lil' hard here.
>>134043082
Blackbeard would wreck Sakazuki. He would draw all the magma into darkness, pull Sakazuki, and break his neck. This is pre quake.
>>134042990
Fire is normally pretty good against ice. For the same reason that Ace lost to Sakazuki, he may have been doing well against Kuzan. It's difficult to say how strong Ace really was since the only real fight he had was against Blackbeard, which he lost. And we will never have a comparison because Blackbeard is now much much more powerful than he was back then.
>>134043117
You're delusional if you believe Kuzan could defeat Blackbeard.
>>134043126
Pre Darkness Blackbeard was Shanks level.
>>134043073
How did he job when he got out no problem after beating the strongest Mink?
>>134042934
Doflamingo + Sugar. I think observation haki can sense Absalom.
If Sugar was fighting along side Doflamingo instead of Trebol, it wouldn't even be a fight. Dofla parasites regular Luffy, Sugar crawls out of her hole and touches Luffy while he is dumbfounded and confused about the situation.
Law is occupied by the Cloneflamingo and then gets gangbanged again.
>>134043148
He would defeat Sakazuki, but get maimed. Not as bad as Kuzan who lost his leg though. Blackbeard tried to win favor with Sakazuki by delivering Bonney, that was his real intention.
>>134043155
>Shanks Level
Okay, I thought you were an Ace fanboy but you're clearly trolling.
Did Jack fight against Nekomamushi too?
>>134043155
you are delusional if you think you can pass off your retarded reasoning that consists of 'he draws all the ice and then breaks his neck' and don't provide anything more substantial to prove your claim that he would wreck Kuzan. For how I see it, there's no real way to tell which one of the two would win pre-ts. Post-ts, my bet is on BB.
>>134043191
no it wasn't? He wanted to get a marine ship to travel the NW since his old one was wrecked or something. He never even expected Sakazuki to show up.
>>134043155
He could easily defeat Blackbeard. You're the retarded BBFag here.
>>134043215
This is according to Shanks, it's not fanboying.
Shanks boards Whitebeard's ship just to warn Whitebeard that Blackbeard scarred his face in a legit fight.
You're clearly speedreading.
>>134043154
I think the fight against Blackbeard was a demonstration that power levels aren't linear in this manga like they are in Dragonball. Like, some fighting styles and abilities are better against others. Blackbeard exploited a Logia's overreliance on their fruit. It doesn't mean he was stronger than Ace, or than any Admiral, it doesn't mean he was weaker either, it just means he fought some dude and he won and you can't draw "power level" conclusions from just that. Goddamn.
>>134043155
Jesus Christ
>>134043252
>literally joined Blackbeard
>could easily defeat him
top kek speedreader.
>>134043277
That was pre darkness BB.
Who Shanks stated hides his power level.
Who Shanks stated wounded his face in fair combat.
I'm sorry you read too quickly.
Aside from Sanji and Caesar I want to know what happens on full moon nights and why Wanda is wearing Namis clothes
SO, who will be the other 2 calamities?
POST BETS
>>134043376
>Scars means they fought equally
I guess Luffy was equal to Akainu pre-timeskip too
>>134043255
you are a fucking retard. We know virtually nothing about when the scar was done, he never says 'oh the other day I met bb and he did me this, be careful'. There's not enough knowledge about it, for all we know it was done during their younghood. Point being, if THAT is your proof that BB could have beaten Shanks pre-ts then you're off to a bad start
also I honestly can't grasp why you people keep putting Shanks into these discussions, we know absolutely nothing about how he fights or about his actual level of strenght. We know he clashed with Mihawk on par before he lost his arm, and we know that he got a scar by BB, but not when. We don't even know remotely enough to state if he could defeat, say, pre-ts Whitebeard and stuff, we can only speculate. Hell, we don't even know if he could defeat Kaidou since it's not clear if they fought or no.I think he would, but I don't have proof to back it up so I don't come here trying to claim it's the truth
>>134043376
Also Shanks didn't even know Blackbeard had the darkness fruit when he warned Whitebeard about him. He only revealed it to Ace at Banaro, which took place after Shanks warned Whitebeard.
>>134043384
and the ovbius one
>>134043273
thank you. I thought Enel was the perfect example of it. Is it so hard to understand?
>>134043404
Luffy didn't scar Akainu's face pre timeskip.
But Kuzan, who scarred Akainu's face, did.
Another example is Rayleigh cutting kizaru's face.
You're grasping. Shanks said he wasn't being careless, meaning only someone of similar or high skill could do it. Mihawk couldn't even scar his face.
>>134043384
What is this, the Seven Wonders of the Extinct Animal World?
>He would draw all the X into darkness, pull X, and break X's neck. This is pre quake.
This is literally the only thing BBFags can say. It's retarded.
By that logic you know how Kizaru can beat BB then? He would travel at the speed of light and slice off BB's head with his light sword killing him instantly.
See how easy that was BBFags? There is literally nothing you can do to refute this.
>>134043465
Because Blackbeard's gravitation draws in even light and he states this outright at Banaro?
>>134043465
these discussions are always that fucking retarded. Get used to it.
and get ready for when BB actually starts doing something in the NW. Shit will get hilarious.
>>134043443
That was my immediate guess.
BB literally said he wasn't ready to face Shanks even with 2 fruits.
Being able to hurt someone doesn't mean being equal in strength to him.
>>134043465
>Whitebeard's blade couldn't cut through Blackbeard despite being unblocked and undodged.
>Kizaru's could
Yeah....
>>134043273
There are some objectively stronger-than-other DFs but it doesn't mean the wielder is automatically weaker. I think OP does a good job with its power levels. Kinda funny how strong the Straw Hats got and they're still not anywhere close to endgame strength.
>>134043535
You seriously believe the strawhats aren't anywhere near end game strength?
>>134043376
>>134043457
>>134043255
Yet darkness + quake BB still wouldn't fight Shanks. Keep trying, retarded BBFags.
>>134043563
anyone in his right state of mind does
>>134043497
Thing is, Blackbeard is hyped up to be the biggest threat among the yonkos. So it stands to reason that we still haven't seen him fight seriously. We don't know the full extent of what happened against Ace, we don't know how he scarred Shanks, I think Blackbeard is a lot more capable than his fat coward exterior shows. So BBFags will get what they want, and they will masturbate all over these threads. there's no way around it.
>>134043520
True endgame strength? They most certainly are not.
>>134042934
whitebeard + whitebeard
THEORY:
mink tribe martial arts i sbased on charge static electicity throught their fur, then release it.
chopper should learn it, being an honorary mink, as zoro should learn the fire/explosion cutting trick.
PS As anybody came up with a good explanation/theory on how zoro fear-paralyzed and killed monet?
>>134043520
Actually what he "literally" said was that "it's not time for me to face you yet."
Which is a very different statement than "I'm too weak to face you."
Blackbeard is opportunistic and goal oriented. He knows Shanks knows how to get to Raftel, and killing him on Marineford would take away his chance of finding that out.
I wonder why Jack's Devil Fruit wasn't mentioned in his introduction.
>>134043497
We're gonna have one of those stupid Naruto copypastas.
>And I'm not talking about pre-TS Blackbeard
>>134043595
I too think BB is one hell of a monster and that he's a monstrous opponent, but I don't try to pass out my headcanons as facts just because I like him. Like I don't come here saying that Kizaru would wreck Sakazuki just because I find him more interesting.
>>134043601
>true endgame strength
Explain?
Luffy might need to figure out a gattling version of king kong punch, or extend the time limit of gear 4, but I don't think he needs much more than that to take on just about anyone.
>>134043601
meant for >>134043563
Don't know how I fucked that one up.
>>134043589
They're weaker than the "endgame" bosses but stronger than 95%+ of the fodder they'll encounter. I'd say that's close enough to endgame strength. I don't expect Usopp to ever fight an admiral or yonko one-on-one, I don't even expect that of Franky, Sharkman or Sanji.
>>134043494
Nope. I said Kizaru travelled at light speed and sliced off BB's head. BB definitely can't move the speed of light, so Kizaru kills him easily.
I'm just following your own logic, BBFag.
>>134043376
>>134043408
You're forgetting the fact that Shanks was 20 fucking years younger, you dense cunt. Shit, I agree that Teach is strong but there's nothing to suggest that they're growth has been equal. Fuck, Teach himself said that he wasn't ready to fight Shanks, even though he literally just got the quake fruit and was okay with tangoing against Sengoku and Garp.
>>134043595
Shanks directly states that he hides his power level. Akainu had to take Ace seriously when he fought him, and then still decided to target Luffy first.
Blackbeard joked around and intentionally didn't target Ace to give a full demonstration of his ability, casually tried to recruit him, tanked spears through his vital organs, and then did a final "ability vs ability" supernova move exchange to beat Ace. The whole fight was shown all the way to Ace's hat falling to the ground with Ace literally not there.
>>134043679
unfortunately I'll have to agree with you on that. I'd love for them to fight on par with the strongest supernovas and struggle through the NW by fighting opponents on parr with them, but somehow I find it hard to happen. Law looks like the only one powerful enough of his crew, and I can only hope Kidd will deliver on that, but I don't see anyone else quite close to him. Shame on you Oda.I don't expect Luffy to ever win against any yonko in a 1vs1 actually. Maybe only Blackbeard and because of narrative reasons.
>>134043722
Shanks was full power and in the current timeline when he warned Whitebeard that Blackbeard was hiding his power level and would take his position, you dense cunt.
>>134043653
Like Akainu/Shanks/Rayleigh tier.
And that's what we know about. There's also hidden bosses like possiblyKong, maybeSpace Piratesand definitely theGorousei, plus whatever is inevitably awaiting on Raftel, all things we don't know the strength of.
Bro tip: Loflumingo wasn't true endgame strength either.
>>134042574
Anime is alright if you run One Pace - still not quite as good as the manga though.
>>134043191
kizaru has the worst fruit for blackbeard.
HIs darkness causes him to take hits and take more damage from them.That's not normally a problem because he has insane resistance, he can even tank whitebeards quake punches. But kizaru's punch can simply melt off your face.
>>134043526
You really are stupid.
WB can't attack at the speed of light and uses a regular blade.
The force of getting hit with a light sword at the speed of light would cut his head off easily.
>>134043836
Blackbeard has 0 scars despite having fought Whitebeard, Sengoku, and Shanks.
Kizaru needed help to defeat Marco.
>>134041198
>Look man, if Oda gave a fuck about this guy he would have put more effort into hyping this dude up.
>was said it would be a bad idea to get him involved in Punk Hazard
>went to go get Doflamingo back with zero fucks in regards to who was guarding him
>destroyed Zou and tortured the minkmen
>sunk 2 marine ships with an admiral around and is still alive
Release day posters are so stupid.
>>134042574
Dont listen to those other faggots. Manga all the way. Especially since they stop adapting the cover stories after the first two.
>>134043868
>kizaru's attacks are stronger than whitebeard's
So Rayleigh > Whitebeard?
Because he blocked Kizaru bare skinned. Retard.
>>134043155
I think we're exaggerating Shanks level here.
>Yonko level
>Got owned by East Blue critter
this thread is on a whole another level of stupid compared to the usual ones. What's happening?
>>134043868
>would cut his head off easily
I think getting cut by the stated strongest man's bisento which was strong enough to split the sky when he parried Shanks sword would be worse than getting hit by any of Kizaru's attacks period.
But you're delusional and apparently believe Kizaru's ability to cut is greater than Shanks and Whitebeard's, so there's no point discussing with you.
Kizaru isn't even faster than Rayleigh, who cut his face.
>>134043800
the one pace site give bad gateway.
where do I find it?
>>134042861
fucking furries
>>134043384
A mammoth, a sabertooth and a giant sloth
>>134043940
>causes structural damage with CoC which is only supposed to be able to knock people out
I mean I know you're trolling, but I'll use it to point this out.
>>134043795
Full power when ? 20 fucking years ago ? On Roger's ship ? Are you retarded ? Yes, Teach would have taken WB's position because WB was old and sick. Everyone and their mother knew that. No one is saying Teach is weak, you fucking spastic. Shanks is a smart guy. He's been a Yonko for some time. He knows Teach is strong. He knows Teach has been with WB for 2 decades. He knows if something happened, Teach could easily get WB's territory with his knowledge. Now get Teach's cock out of your damn mouth before you type.
>>134042905
>gary stu
>had PTSD from all the abuse he got from not being royal anymore
>>134043520
Sigh... Blackbeard wasn't ready to face him because he didn't have full control of his powers yet. Even his darkness ability is not at its full potential.
>>134043964
nah, it really isn't. I have seen worse release day threads, oh yeah that I have
>>134044053
these powerlevel discussions seem more retarded than usual. Maybe I'm just getting old.
>>134042990
>Admiral Level
Stopped reading there, pretty much the sign of a shitpost
>>134043964
New chapter. What else ?
>>134043868
>Aokiji was forced to dodge the Bisento with emphasis on the question of if it killed him
>Blackbeard tanked it outright pre skip and was barely damaged.
There's no comparison, Blackbeard is WAY stronger than Kuzan.
>>134043836
>>134043869
I mean akainu. not kizaru, my bad.
the way to fight akainu is avoid is hits or block them with haki. Both things that blackbeard sucks at. Or at least sucked at pre timeskip.
I think pre timeskip the admirals and blackbeard were more or less equally strong, but bb couldn't beat akainu due to the way he fights.
>>134043904
Sorry you have terrible reading comprehension anon. I'll repeat myself. WB can't swing his bisento at the speed of light. You can't compare an old Whitebeard swinging a blade to Kizaru swinging his at the speed of light.
>>134043940
>Structural damage
Now you mentioned it. He was clearly a master of haki. It's a surprise that he didn't use armament haki to cover his arm back then.
>>134043636
>I wonder why Jack's Devil Fruit wasn't mentioned in his introduction.
That's usually how it is, isn't it?
>>134044100
Blackbeard tanked the strongest attacks in the entire world pre skip.
Blackbeard would take massive burn damage from Akainu, which would hurt a lot, but then barely damage him, like all other attacks except poison in the story so far.
>>134043995
Sorry you're retarded.
Whitebeard can't swing at the speed of light.
>>134044083
by the time people start ignoring the ones who use that retarded term it will be too late.
Remember the shitposting war that went with this for like a month?
>>134044145
Yeah. It's why I was curious.
>>134044112
How can you claim that Whitebeard's swing is slower than Kizaru's just because of Kizaru's devil fruit even though it's already canon that a non devil fruit user can be as fast or faster than him since it was shown that Rayleigh was?
>>134044179
remember the shitposting about Gear 4th being able to oneshot Doffy at the very beginning of the fight?
good days.
>>134044091
Kuzan is near Akainu's level as they fought equally for ten days. BB ran from Akainu. Sorry you're wrong, retard.
>>134044179
The arguments from Law cutting Vergo were worse.
And of course that Don Krieg is stronger than Jozu shit
>>134042934
Yami Yami + Urogue fruit.
>>134044159
>Rayleigh can't move at the speed of light
How did he repeatedly block Kizaru and cut his face then?
Whitebeard's attack strength > Kizaru's attack strength. Shanks would cut Kizaru's head off.
Blackbeard will (and already did once) beat Shanks.
Stay delusional.
>>134042934
I can imagine Issho countering that combo
>>134040704
I didn't get the joke
>>134044195
nigger what. Kizaru was readying his kick (putting some pretty heavy emphasis on it too) and shittalking Zoro, and Rayleigh got in between and stopped him from landing the attack. How was he in any conceivable way proven to be faster than the man with the fucking pika pika no mi?
>>134044224
>BB ran from Akainu
Not because he couldn't fight him.
I can't believe there are anons who unironically believe post skip Blackbeard is weaker than an admiral.
>>134044179
Yea but I still don't know how people could be that retarded. Just replace the words "Haki" with "Your skin" and "My sword" and you literally have the exact same scene. Some cunts just like to complain about nothing.
>>134044194
Why would you be curious if it's just the norm ?
Kizaru can't kick at the speed of light. He can travel distances with his ability and apparently blow things up. I don't know how it works.
>>134044288
After that, he then had multiple exchanges with Kizaru.
He cut Kizaru's face but Kizaru never once landed a blow on Rayleigh.
He was literally faster than prime Kizaru despite being stated to be out of prime himself.
>>134044296
Well no, I don't think it usually is the norm. I notice DFs mentioned in a character's intro fairly often.
>>134043636
We've only seen him in flashbacks and cut aways really.
The drought aspect of his fruit is interesting though.
Maybe he's another person with 2 fruits?
>>134044323
he can, supposedly, shoot beams at the speed of light (well duh) and he can also move at the speed of light, but while he does he travels so fast he apparently can't control his movements at all.
>mfw patiently waiting for Raizou to join
>>134044323
He isn't light, he a "beam" like a Star Wars' beam gun.
>>134044353
>marco jumps in front of a speed of light beam with an initially clear path to whitebeard
holy shit marco can move at the speed of light too wow
we'll need someone to work on the School of Atens shit with Wano and Zou. I want to see it with the 'it's not gravity who sucks in light, it's darkness' or whatever the fuck that was.
>>134044376
He's a lazer man then. Lazers don't move at the speed of light.
>>134044286
What joke ? Zoro just looks like he's used to Luffy's shenanigans. It's just another page showing best bro being best bro.
>>134044195
I'm just following the other anons reasoning for why BB can defeat anyone in two seconds
>BB draws X into his darkness, pulls X, and breaks X's neck.
>>134044402
where the fuck did you pull that out from
I was referring to this part
Japan, seriously
JAPAN SERIOUSLY
DOUJINS FUCKING WHEN
>>134044026
I see what you did there
>>134044453
Blackbeard pulls his opponent to his hand, disables their devil fruit, and then hits them as hard as a yonko. He tanks their initial attacks even if they are on par with Whitebeard and Sengoku's and takes barely damage from them.
-pre skip
Blackbeard pulls his opponent to his hand, disables their devil fruit, and then hits them as hard as a yonko + quake. He tanks their attacks even if they are on par with Whitebeard's and Sengoku's and takes barely damage from them.
post skip
Is that easier for you?
>>134044488
2/3
>>134044489
I'm not sure if japs are big on fur
>>134043785
>I don't expect Luffy to ever win against any yonko in a 1vs1 actually
that makes you an idiot
>>134044488
I was pointing out that literally Marco was fast enough to get in the way of his "light speed" attacks. You know, the yonko captain who couldn't avoid garp's punch?
>>134044345
Really ? I think we get a reveal first then the fruit name, after, no ? Admittedly, Lucci is the only one I can think off, that fits the scenario since Marco and Sengoku, etc. were in different circumstances.
