What does VR mean for anime?
>>133695369
>open anime world with uploadable storylines you can follow or not while they happen
Or just 3D just a little bit pig disgusting anime with 360° view
>3D
>animu
Pick one.
Nothing. At absolute most you'll get parallax on a static angle, but nobody is going to bother with that.
>>133695369
>animation
definitely not animu
VR isn't going to catch on as anything more than a gimic.
>>133695369
Absolutely nothing, except maybe an extension of thst personalised cinema concept.
>>133695990
I'd love if it caught on as a niche that otaku would obsess over so much that they'd forget about animu forever.
>>133695369
Not much.
Although, I wonder if someone will make a virtual movie theater so you can sort of have social watchings of certain things, not even anime related, just an curious idea to me.
>>133696090
Numerous already exist.
>>133696115
Oh, is it better than just watching stuff on a monitor?
>>133696176
Not really. I remember fucking around in a Garry's Mod anime movie theater, chilling out with everyone's toon.
>>133695759
>but nobody is going to bother with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SMDLnC-cMU
Never underestimate the will to be closer to your waifu. The technology is happening.
>>133695369
anime girl dancing around the faceberg logo.jpg
>>133695520
>>133695603
What about those top tier anime figurines? I'd imagine a VR anime would feature characters that looked like that.
>>133696176
Yes and no. Problem is the pixel density isn't high enough in VR so you're basically watching SD resolution.
>>133696271
That would look like stop motion stuff like Coraline more than anything.
it is now a great time to have a face sitting fetish
>>133696304
Would the Samsung version fix that? As I recall the phones have really high resolutions, not sure what the occulus itself is up to.
>>133696391
The Oculus is 2560*1600
A 4K VR headset would be an improvement
>>133696345
and despite the millions being spent on advertising a perverted anon sold me on vr
>>133696176
I imagine it's only really as fun as the social experience you get from it is, I've only used a demo of it on a OR DK2 on my own, and the resolution makes it kinda worthless compared to a regular screen.
>>133696256
Somewhat a solution for games, but as far as anime goes it's not really that different from using full CGI which in the vast majority of cases doesn't look particularly good. Only recent standout example of good CGI I can think of is Etotama. If you're going to go for a 'VR anime', it'd make more sense to just make an environment/animation tech demo instead, especially when costs and niche are considered.
Sanzigen might fuck around with it a bit though, be interesting to see if anything comes from it.
>>133696391
CV1 is only 1440p, but there's 4K phone panels showing up these days. Problem there is persistence and refresh.
>>133696391
No, it's not even close really. To have a virtual monitor have a similar pixel density as your average real life one we need 4k per eye. It'll probably work well enough under that but that's to give you an idea.
>>133696434
>*1200p
My bad.
>>133696428
A 4k headset will never be cheap enough to warrant a purchase. I'm convinced these things will hurt your eyes
>>133696434
>>133696428
CV1 is actually less than 1440p, it's 2160×1200, GearVR is higher resolution. It makes up for it by having better optics and screen utilization.
>>133696479
Right now it is just a gimmick. Anime isn't really improved as it is 2D, and I don't play video games outside of Victoria 2. We can see where it goes, but I doubt that it will be like Snowcrash at its current capacity.
people taking livestream to the next level
>>133696522
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/samsung-developing-whopping-11k-display-smartphones-1510526
How about this?
>>133696256
fuck. I want it.
I remember seeing how a guy made a virtual arcade for Oculus Rift, with customizable game selection, various tapes you could find and play, and even a bowling alley. Maybe an anime theater would be interesting.
Either that, or 3D anime that you can watch from any angle.
>>133696594
Sounds like a lot of bullshit really, 11k making a 3D effect? Come on.
No doubt there's going to be higher res VR in the future but I wouldn't count on it too soon. Another thing to keep in mind is the screen needs to be OLED for low persistence and so far that has been a step behind LCD in terms of resolution.
>>133696701
Well, I was ignoring that 3d thing, but an 11k display for VR?
>>133695369
porn
>/a/ gets its own vr cinema where we watch anime together as little girls
i-it's not like i want it to h-happen or anything like that!
>>133696754
Don't lie anon, you just want your loli orgy.
>>133696728
Well we'll see in 2018 I guess. It would fix any resolution issues for VR for sure. Then the issue will be we need a new port to support 11k at 90/120hz. Currently the best thing we got is DP 1.3 which isn't even out yet and that can only support subsampled 8k at 60hz or 4k at 120hz.
>>133695369
>>133696751
https://a.uguu.se/ekrxzn.webm
>>133696391
Samsung is the only one I tried and the horror mental asylum they showed looked pretty damn realistic.
>>133696728
once dx12 is fully supported i can see this happening especially if we can develop affordable sub mm eye tracking, with that we can use foveated rendering to low the insane costs of a 4/8/11k display. And btw it's "easy" to crack up the number of pixels of a display, the thing is, for vr you need global shuttering, low persistence, a+ color reproduction, etc. and be all of that while being cheap.
>>133696578
I'd pay for a streaming service that would allow this. Each server is basically a theater room with assigned seating and VoIP that simulates distance so you'd need to yell for someone on the other side to hear you
Its a market just begging for someone to harness
>>133696951
The Oculus cinema already supports Netflix I think. There's talks about adding social stuff to it. Seems inevitable now really especially with Facebook involved.
>>133696951
I don't see the appeal at all. It just seems like the worst of both worlds. Paying for streaming is always gay too
>>133696754
>Visit /a/ VR theater
>Full of half naked lolis
>Have to mute nearly everyone because they're screaming obscenities and arguing with each other.
I get the feeling the /m/ theater would be better.
>>133696931
>eye tracking
What's with this meme? The sweet spot for lenses is small, the amount of freedom your eyes have doesn't necessitate eye tracking.
>>133697125
>/m/ theater
Neckbeards with delusions of grandeur shouting you how manly they are sounds quite unpleasant.
>>133697125
>Shitposters yelling "BLESS ME JESUS KIRA"
>People arguing loudly about G-reco
>Other shitposters yelling "VVV WAS A GOOD SHOW!"
>People laughing with Tomino's dialogues
>Random guys talking shit about western vs eastern mech designs
yeah....
>>133697246
Their will also be one guy with Kamina as his avatar surrounded by people screaming how great getter robo is
>>133697233
It's not a meme, search for foveated rendering and Abrash (chief rd scientist at Oculus) already showed on his talks that the actual lenses are rudimentary at best and the one needed to give you at least a 180º fov and depth of field would be bigger than your arm.
>>133696951
Why assigned seating? Why not just allow users to have customizable rooms size to accommodate larger amounts of people?
>>133697328
Yeah, but how does eye tracking help with FOV? The Oculus lenses are pretty much fixed save for IPD adjustment.
>>133697125
>/v/ theater for beta livestreams etc
The horror...
>>133697405
because of foveated rendering, the bigger the fov the bigger the resolution needs to be if you want to preserve the quality. with precise eye tracking and the technique i mentioned above you can reduce the rendering costs (which are exponential). go do your research.
>>133697125
>>Have to mute nearly everyone because they're screaming obscenities and arguing with each other.
Even if it's true i can still laugh to it
>>133696890
>>133697469
/v/ themselves may be shitters but I would definitely buy a VR flight simulator and having the option to play with another person in a 2-seater would be pretty damn cool.
>>133697536
>>133696890
check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmI45U4qUwI
>>133697125
I'd rather go to the /f/ VR raves myself.
>>133697558
VR flight sims already exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWS5yVbmFhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPPdV2Md1c
>>133696890
We're more close to the Matrix each dayand now i have to wait for another 20 years to have a software good enough just to talk with my waifu
>>133695369
Nothing really.
>>133697651
I figured they did, but I'm curious about how multiplayer is organized since I know it exists for VR. Right after I posted I realized that I really want a group co-op of something like a WW2 bomber mission with everybody manning different stations. I should probably stop posting about this though since it's not really /a/ related but fuck if I'm going to /v/.
>>133695369
Waifu simulators and enhanced porn games.
>>133695520
>open anime world with uploadable storylines you can follow or not while they happen
I've actually considered going to one of those live action equivalents.
>>133697749
Well War Thunder works with VR so if you want the WW2 multiplayer VR experience that's probably your best bet for now.
>>133697811
Interesting, I'll have to look into that. Don't think I can afford a VR headset for a few months though.
>>133697125
>>Have to mute nearly everyone because they're screaming obscenities and arguing with each other.
I wish I had the ability to mute real life, becuase that is what happened when i went to my college's animu club (at the invitation of my japanese TA) when they showed daicon openings and some other stuff. My friend and I left after the daicon stuff becuase legit weeaboos were screaming and being generally retarded.
>>133697847
The consumer version of the Rift is releasing next year, so you can wait for that. You also need a good PC to run the Rift in the first place, it's pretty graphically demanding. Also I just found this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-fvUcHzXcE which is pretty much exactly what you were describing.
>>133697904
> i went to my college's animu club
> college's animu club
> animu club
You can only blame yourself
>>133697904
Zero sympathy. Outside /a/ where everyone is a cute girl anime fans are autistic weaboos
>place huge water tank on table
>fill it with water, sugar and vitamins
>have long straw connected from the bottom of the tank to my mouth while lying on my bed
>put on VR headset with headphones
>launch VR cinema
>lie in bed and watch anime 24 hours every day
I wonder how many years I will survive.
>>133695369
For anime? Nothing at all.
For anime-related media such as lolibutt-simulators however, it may be relevant.
>>133698388
/fit/ here. not very long 6 months to a year. you need fat and protein to survive.
>>133697904
Too bad. Another anon said the first thing his club president said was that they will not tolerate weabu shit and if they were looking for Dragon Ball, One Piece, Bleach and Naruto discussion they could leave the place.
I think he said they started watching Porco Rosso after.
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>>133698388
Just get soylent if you're gonna do that, you might actually live if you do that.
>>133698388T-toilet?
>>133698513
You would probably go blind faster than you would die if you did this. Having said that soylent or any liquid that contains protein isn't that much different from agar and goes rancid from bacteria pretty quick
>>133697937
I've tried War Thunder with the Oculus Rift at gamescom one or two years ago.
There still are some limitations:
- the resolution is too low for a serious sim; you have to lean in to read the instruments in the cockpit
- spotting targets on the ground or at distance is rather hard
Perhaps 2k - 4k displays could fix this, but I don't see any GPUs capable of rendering at this resolution at 120hz yet, which means that it will take at least one generation of GPUs until it's really good.
An even more important aspect: there is no natural depth of field.
A lot of depth perception and range estimation, especially at touching range, is done based on the intuitive feeling of distance your eyes provide by having to adjust. In the Oculus, there is no such thing, since everything is placed at the same distance from you, after all, you're looking at a distorted screen right in front of your face through two lenses.
This gives you the impression that you're not sitting inside a cockpit but inside a bubble onto which a cockpit is projected. In general, depth perception is lacking.
People who are freaking out in youtube videos are in most cases acting.
It's a good step forwards and I'm eager to see what other type of development is happening, but I wouldn't be too hyped yet.
>>133698486
to all /fit/fags here on /a/, not him but thanks, really, you always come to save some /a/non's ass or rate some moe workout anime improving this christian board and all people in it, one again thank you /fit/
>>133698894
> or rate some moe workout anime
I need some of this, at least to do something than shitposting all dayp-please?
>>133698764
>the resolution is too low for a serious sim; you have to lean in to read the instruments in the cockpit
>spotting targets on the ground or at distance is rather hard
War Thunder is not a serious flight simulator and this is also why you have zoom in video games. It's a replacement for being able to focus on distant objects in real life.
>>133698764
I wouldn't say they're acting, so much as the fact it fills a large amount of your FOV produces an isolating effect which draws you into the environment a lot more than otherwise.
Agreed on the depth perception part, that's something which is really sorely lacking from the kit at the moment, because while the effect of depth is present, it's got very little strength to it.
>>133699146
Light field VR HMDs soon™
>>133698764
>People who are freaking out in youtube videos are in most cases acting.
Some people react differently than others. I've demo'd my DK2 to people and it can definitely incite what might seem to be an exaggerated reaction. I saw this coming from people who don't usually put themselves out there by acting like that.
>Be able to watch anime from different angles that all move in the 2D3D perspective magic like that one program that got lauded around in 2011
>See all sorts of hidden shit that can change the context of several many scenes
>can spend the entire time looking from the ground up at everyone's skirts if that's your thing
>watching shows like Macross or Gundam in first person perspective any time the focus is on mobile suit stuff, letting you have the MC's viewpoint during battles
It'd be cool, but honestly not reasonably feasible. It's not impossible, but it sure as hell ain't doable.
>>133699522
I saw someone reacting to the 3ds glasses less 3d and say how amazing it was before he realised the 3d was turned off. People like being seen reacting to new technology
>>133699731
You can tell when people are just telling you versus actually reacting to something however. The people I'm talking about had no idea what VR was and had no preexisting notions about it.
>>133699808
>You can tell when people are just telling you versus actually reacting to something however.
You think I can accurately gauge human expression? Do you know where you are?
>>133699860
>not having high functioning autism and being able to look at the human species from a purely existential standpoint like they're ants
pick it up senpai
>>133699102
The closest thing I could find
It means you're finally gonna be with your waifu and/or husbando.
Until the dirty nips decide to hack your world and put a censor bar on your waifu until you decide to buy it from them. If you do not, you will arrested and prosecuted under Japanese copyright laws and subjected to 30 hours on a chinko machine until you are ready to repent.
Also you'll become the newest Gundam pilot and sit in a cockpit all day.
>>133695369
A lot of Solid Snakes. Pretty much pic related but with whoever the user chooses.
Make vr peria chronicles.
>>133695369
Berserk will be on Permanent Hiatus
>>133695369
nothing, because anime is shit, no matter the medium and you should know it.
>>133700127
> workout
> trying to get a qt girl while at it
Thank you based /fit/fag
>>133700522
Bodyweight workouts wont give you the best bang for your buck, but whatever.
>>133700326
How is that game coming along anyways?
>>133700599
Believe me, at this point, everything is finenot like i'm a whale but i have to do something since i don't enjoy anime like i used to
>>133700599
>Posting a routine made by a reddit mod
>>133700772
It's a beginner routine, worked for me. But yeah, it's not my current routine.
I wouldn't stick with it for more than 6 months though.
>>133698894
Does fit watch anitore?
>>133695369
Just saying, but a game wouldn't have to be 3D
Ever see with one eye? You lose that depth, you're literally seeing in 2D, and although you're aware the world around you is three dimensional you can't actually see the true shape and depth of things.
All Occulus animu would take is a drawing for every angle, unless they can somehow trick the eyes another way (just no fucking billboard)
Biggest concern is Occulus porn, imagine living out that one Saturday Koyomi had in nisemonogatari where instead of talking to Tsukihi in the morning, sexually harassing Hachikuji, playing life with Sengoku, etc... You just fucked them all instead, but continued like it was in the show. Just a dream, though, can be taken as a suggestion if you want
>>133702412
In terms of anime, VR anime might be possible if it's 100% 3DCG or animators learn how to hand draw 360 degree animations. Also regarding porn, MMD is compatible with the Rift, all you have to do to fuck an anime is to load up some decent models and animations and you're good to go.
invent some sort haptic feedback implant that (somehow hacks your nervous system and) outputs crosstalks from VR software.
feel you're waifu's embrace real warmth.
w-woudl you /a/?
>>133695369
All I want is an interactive anime series where I'm the main character and a bunch of waifus lust over me.
>>133702819
I want to embraceanon.
>>133700772
Anything to get anons moving. Once they feel more confident about working out they can read the sticky and start making some real gainz.
>>133702875
So a VRVN?
>>133702819
I want the next step after that, hardware that links into your nervous system and allows you to create art assets (textures, colors, 3D models) directly from your imagination. Then, and only then, will it ever be feasible to create massive 3D VR worlds and productions like movies or vidya.
>>133702793
>playing artificial girl 9 for 20 hours straight
>you're running around and bump into the only character you haven't shagged yet
>she's on that pose fighting to get up, like a turtle upside down.
>she's being a little bitchy about it, you don't recall setting her in such a way.
>you have the latest rape dlc/mod
>it's perfect, lemme me try this.
>it's your best experience ever. it even feels so real, even the fierce fighting up first and the sudden resignation and yielding.
>you can't realize where those buckets of cum are coming from, since this has been a real long marathin. but they're there.
>you are finally satisfied.
>pull out the vr set to meet the mess that was left of your granny who showed up for a weekend's surprise visit.
>>133702903
They can always get /fit/ in VR.
>>133703113
well, you a literally shilling for the matrix retail version.
>>133703254
>that punching form
>>133695369
nothing, as everytime anime studios tried to improve their cgi by incorporating it into their new works, people bitched that cgi is shit and they should never do it again.
Thus they are now not even close to the level they would need to be to use it for VR
>>133703254
>/fit/
>fighting
>>133697724
You'll be on your deathbed when this great technology is gifted to you by a distant relation. Twenty years to hear your waifu tell you you make her sick.
>>133703244
Get help.
Boku no Pico from Pico's perspective?
>>133703244
>>133695369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmOAA063m40
>>133705369
Neat, didn't know about that vid.
