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Niggastream's out
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>>133635381
I already discussed this chapter so I don't care
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I hope you fags enjoy niggastream and the deviantart fanart inserts.
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>"You just love taking a hit, don't you ?"

Eto with ether as per usual.
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Thankyou MS
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They somehow managed to make the quality worse

Bravo
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Even for them this was a gross scan. Fuck.
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>>133635599
>deviantart fanart inserts.
I would take that over tumblr shitty art style.
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>>133635734
>People whining how IS killed all the detail.
>People whining how MS keep all the detail.
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>>133635381
jesus he looks so fucking sadistic
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>>133635715
Are you fucking retarded? It's literally the same people translating/cleaning/redrawing/typesetting. The only thing that's different is the credits page.
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>>133635824
>>133635734
The raw provider was kill, maybe this one just has a retarded scanner. 95% of scan quality comes from the RAW itself, although more competent scanlators can make it look smoother by killing more detail. If it's a HQ raw like a tankoban scan, even a retard or a person using GIMP can make it look good. That being said, if MS and Baidu are using the same RAWS, the difference in scanlator ability is obvious.
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>>133635824

Are you? Compare the quality to the previous chapter, this looks so much worse and not once did I mention it was a new team
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>I really loved Mommy...
Even in this panel, he's touching his chin. Jesus Christ Ishida.
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>>133635896
If you hold the team constant, the only explanation is retarded RAWS. It doesn't take a genius to clean, just some settings.
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>>133635824
No body knows that anon. We need Mutsuki to confirmed.
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Am I the only person seeing a child's high chair + broken birdcage? Am I crazy?
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Hairu said G-Li-Co. Was that singing or something?
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KANEKI IS BACK GENTLEMEN

TOKYO GHOUL IS ONCE AGAIN BACK

BASED ISHIDA
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>133635968
It's a big reveal on Kaneki's past and true motives. I thought it was pretty clear-cut.
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>>133635908
This chapter killed me. After all he went through, Haise wants to be loved by the same guy who made holes in his skull and treats him like a quinque. At least Akira isn't hitting him.

Incoming breakdown after Akira reveal.
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>>133636044
Hint: click on the post number.
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>>133636036
You say now, but don't be surprised if we're still stuck with Haise.
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>>133636073
doesn't help when it's another thread.
>>133636044 was meant for >>133635968
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>>133636083
>no more dreaming
>no more waking
haise looks like he's completely done
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fuck, the la-la-land spreads in this chapter were great
if only they weren't watermarked to hell
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>>133636094
You are supposed to link them even if they are in a previous thread. The reason being is that extensions like Appchan X will 'remember' who you are and will automatically fetch posts from the archive. This memory even applies to crossboard threads so you can get notifed when someone quotes you across boards.

The niftiest is not desktop notifications. Especially useful in sharethreads.
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>>133635640
Well Kaneki tried too much, Eto was in this business away before him
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>>133636052
>At least Akira isn't hitting him.
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>>133636170
>typing not
Typoes.
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>>133636200
JUST
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>>133635640
>Kaneki and his mom used to live in the 24th ward
>The park where he played at is where he met Eto
>She knows all about his backstory
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>>133636148
Chink scan has no watermark on it, you can check that out.
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How likely is it that we get spoilers for the chapters on Saturday again?
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>>133636232
FUCK
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>>133636297
Give it a few weeks till things settle down I think.
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>>133636200
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>>133636297
Text spoiler 99.9%, image spoilers about 0.5% after the what went down with five minute and now this.
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>>133636320
MY
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>>133636271
If already Eto would be like 4 years older than him
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>>133636036
Remember the end of the auction arc? Yeah you shouldn't get your hopes up.
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>>133636371
She's only 3 years older.
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>>133636385
Well made a mistake in 1 year
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Shit you guys weren't kidding when you ppl said niggastream's translation are subpar. Are theirs worse than IS?
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>>133635769
>people complaining
>niggers complaining about being enslaved
>white men complaining about shit slaves
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Kaneki and Eto sexy time soon?
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>>133636364
SHIT
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>>133636200
No wonder he thinks of her as his mother.
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>>133636431
>slightly older woman
>possibly cake
why is eto so perfect
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Man the scans sure are terrible.
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>>133636447
UP
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>>133635908
>touching his chin

What does that mean?
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mfw /a/ did a better job with translation and pages yesterday
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>>133636271
If this ended up true, I honestly wouldn't know what to think of it.
Was it mentioned where Kaneki and his mom lived at all?
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>>133635734
I hope the /a/non from last week does this chapter when the YJ scans come out.
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>>133636465
Happens every time Kaneki/Haise lose their shit pretty much.
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>>133636465
When he touches his chin, it means he's lying/hiding something
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>>133635908
noticed this, it actually choked me up man
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>Ui: Shit at this rate we'll arrive too quickly so lets take the long way around

Jesus fucking Christ Ui!
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>>133636083
>>133636108
He's not going to stop being Haise any more than he stopped being Kaneki. Tokyo Ghoul is big on people having multiple "selfs", this will really just be Kaneki's third transformation. The specifics of his being might be different after this but he will still be the same person to some degree.
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>>133636465
sasuga speedreader-kun
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>>133636465
Reread chapter 118 again.
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>>133636564
He's prolonging from seeing Hairu perform her turtle routine.
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>>133636465
Fuckin' speedreaders man.
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Kaneki's mom probably killed herself but kaneki is just repressing the memories.

>"like the maggot mommy was, I too..."

He tried to get himself killed by Arima, but failed to die, will the Ishida ride ever end.
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>>133636564
I got the impression that he was flashing back to a conversation he had with Hairu, planning out a date/trip via train stations.
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>>133636674
Yeah, I mean even before this revelation there was the theme of Kaneki becoming like his mother through overworking himself for selfish reasons, but now there are even more similarities.
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does anybody actually understand what the fuck is going on with kaneki/haise conversation, or have an insightful take on it,

it doesnt make any sense for kaneki to want to die considering everything he did in the first series, it would mean that he was lying about all the relationships he made and it wouldnt make any sense at all. the only thing i can come up with is that those impulses are actually kaneki repressing his desires, which is why they showed his mother earlier, so haise is choking kaneki into submission as a result of psychic trauma and trying to repress all his true feelings, which changes at the end of the chapter when he tells haise to go to sleep

kaneki also refrencing haise saying he will "save him" from their conversation in the auction arc, but is mocking haise because he cant actually do it, but how does that tie in with anything else being said afterwards, unless haise is just the result of kaneki repressing all his true feelings, but im honestly just confused. its possible the translations are just faulty and theres nothing to even understand here
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>>133636695
Did you read the TL's Disqus comment? It's a drinking game.
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>>133636674
Oh fuck. He failed to die because of Hide who told him to fight with all he's got and that's what made Arima use him as a weapon instead.

Hide once again best boy..Saving his faggot friend from committing suicide.
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>>133635908
Goddamit, Ishida, give a nigga a break. He doesn't deserve any of this.
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I feel like people keep forgetting the first chapter of this god damn manga.

It's a tragedy. Literally any time there is a redeeming moment it will be met with 2 crushing defeats.
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>>133636200
That's why he calls her mom, doesn't he.
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>>133636674
I can't tell if Ishida is massive and sadist or he's a masochist fantasizing himself in Kaneki's situation.
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So far in :re, I haven't bought any of the "Kaneki return" moments, and known he wasn't coming back.
But this time, I think the "Kaneki" personality may actually make an appearance outside Haise's mind next chapter.
I wonder if my instinct is right on this.
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>>133636674
is it possible he wanted to died because he knew that he ate/killed hide?
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>>133636777
Always abused by the people he loves.

Also loving the people who abuse him.
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Do you guys think that one of the reasons why Haise gave Saiko so much slack was because of both their history of abuse?
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>>133636808
Wouldn't surprise me.
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>>133636745
But suicide would have been the best option for Kaneki.
Hide just made him suffer more.
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>>133636735
It's definitely confusing so i don't even try to understand what is happening inside his mind. Next few chapters probably help us understand just what exactly he wants to do.
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>>133636448
Fuck.
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>>133636735
>it doesnt make any sense for kaneki to want to die considering everything he did in the first series, it would mean that he was lying about all the relationships he made and it wouldnt make any sense at all
Really? I've thought Kaneki was pretty obviously suicidal in the first manga.
Reread chapter 140, he was repeating his mothers mistake of working himself into an early grave under the guise of "protecting everyone" but really only doing it for himself.
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>>133636796
No, he wanted to kill himself before that. Probably since he was a kid, he wanted to die just like his mother.
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>>133636805
Puts a darker spin on Touka beating him up in 120 doesn't it?
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How long is Haise gonna get cuc.ked?
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>>133636805
Fuck, what does this say about Hide?

I'm scared anons, hold me.
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WHAT DOES IVE HAD ENOUGH OF DREAM MEAN ANON?
I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND CONVERSATION BETWEEN SHIRONEKI AND HAINEKI
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>>133636735
He wants to have many people have an opinion on him in some way whether it be good or bad, then he wants to die in a spectacular fashion.

That's probably why he makes so many relationships

Kaneki's been reading too many books.
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He probably thinks abuse is just a part of love.
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>>133636855
He's just following Mommy's example, overwork yourself and then die.
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>>133636886
Will Saiko follow Mamman on his quest for suicide?
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>>133636930
>filename
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>>133636900
Shotaneki wants to die a glorious death. Asks Haineki to do so for him.

That's the gist of it, really.
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>>133636901
>That's probably why he makes so many relationships
>Kaneki's been reading too many books.
This makes a lot of sense acutally
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>>133636900
At the end of TG, Kaneki wanted to "sleep and have a happy dream" - death, or maybe his life as Haise.
"I'd had enough of dreaming", if it was said by Kaneki means he's had enough of living as "Haise"
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>>133636958
Sorry for typo, too lazy to fix it.
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>>133636901
Who here is /Kaneki/?
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>>133636938
>The fatty committing suicide.

Cliché much
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>>133636855
yeah its true kaneki acknowledges this, but then why would he even bother having any shred of chracter development, from him learning to be a ghoul, sympathizing with ghouls, learning to control his power, having a reason to fight, breaking free of jason etc. it doesnt make sense to me for him to be wholly suicidal.
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>>133636938
Unlikely at the moment, anon. Saiko seems content on staying alive.
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>>133636808
Sure but I think the fact she was abused is enough, not necessarily because of his background.
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>>133636938
I hope so. Makes the most sense.
Haise hitting Saiko when?
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>>133636900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ln4y6k428
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Is the uppity s1 leader Ui or Haise?
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>>133637033
But he was clearly suicidal at the end of TG before this revelation.
It was PART of his character development, realising that he was following his mothers footsteps in 140.
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>>133637049
Dude, will the abused become the abuser?
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>>133637071
Ui
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>>133637080
In the original TG, Kaneki already tortured a 14 year old.
Not the same, because Ayato was an enemy in battle, but I think he did become the abuser in a way.
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>>133636792
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>>133635908
do any of you feel weird about this? Was this foreshadowed at any point?
nice catch on the chin touch though
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I thought /a/ didn't allow BLEACH threads?
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Ui is going to get to the roof just in time to see Kaneki lose his shit and use that an excuse to attack him, isn't he?
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>>133637129
The chin touch has been discussed to death for months.
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>>133637030
>>133637035
I didn't mean kill herself too. Just help him kill himself

>inb4 Saiko says "Do it, faggot"
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>>133637129
He touched his chin when he said he liked his mum in TG and it really fits in perfectly what we know of Kaneki's personality imo.
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>>133637152
no, I meant how his mother beat him
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>tfw your qt underling who you took on a date is more interested in getting your autistic former boss and your skunk-haired fuccboi of a co-worker to noitice her more than you
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>could've killed himself at any moment (after he gained control of his Kagune anyway)
>could've yet Tsukiyama finish him off
>could've let Jason finish him off
>could've let investigators finish him off
>decided to survive
>decided to protect
>somehow he's suicidal now
What?
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>>133637176
Better Ui than Hirako
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>>133637163
yeah, I like the idea that maybe this is how it started
like a nervous habit that's been programmed into him, whenever he has to lie, in order to make sure nobody hates him or gets angry with him
like when Touka blamed him for her fuck up and he just took it
now I just think he did that out of fear and not to just be nice

yeah, maybe you're right
it does make a lot of sense that this is the reason he's fucked up
I was just scared of it being Ishida making him suffer more as fan service
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>>133637207
He wants to die "In a cool way" that makes everyone love him. The other situations don't fit that.
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>>133636735
This >>133636855
It was already hinted at/explicitly said by Touka.
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>>133637161
Still unlikely, anon. Who's gonna help her clean her ears?
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>>133637229
He shows the pattern of behaviour as Haise towards Arima. Sees him as a positive father figure despite the abuse.
And towards Rize >>133636930
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>>133637161
Could see Urie saying that.
>Do it faggot, give me your position while you're at it
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>>133637207
this. doesnt make any sense to me unless he did something fucked up like eating hide
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ITT: people who clearly either didn't read or understand chapter 140, or even >>133637241
120 from the first manga.
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We summon chart kun
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>>133637268
I caught on to the Arima thing, but holy shit now I get why he still feels connected to Rize
okay this is good
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>>133637261
She's like a child .
So cute
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>>133637126
Do you have the raws anon?
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>>133637326
>tfw Saiko is actually the oldest of the q's
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>Rize turns him into a monster because she tried to kill him
>Even after being tortured, butchered and transfigured, he's still into her
>All this foreshadowing


ISHIDAAAAAAAAAA
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>>133637234
If Amon killed him, that would've been cool but he said he wanted to die to Arima (the man who turns SS rank ghouls into fodder) while no one was around and while he was protecting no one.
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>>133637346
The chapter's been translated already from (crappy) raws
What I posted was just the original spoiler fic.
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>>133637229
Well he did get it from his mother.
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>>133637326
All neets are children.
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>>133637207
All situations was before the reaper skullfucked him, nigga.
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>>133637207
Don't take anything he says serious. He got his head cracked in and is going full on delusions.
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>>133637361
No wonder he thinks of Arima and Akira as parents.
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>>133637207
He was literally bargaining with his suicidal tendencies, keeping them at bay with this bullshit. He's obviously not THAT suicidal, but apparently it was important to his personality. It explains why he kept playing hero.
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>>133637315
His "death" in the original was more of a "I can finally stop struggling forwards" moment than a "Finally, someone killed me" moment.
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>Kaneki and Amon sharing muh parallels since the beginning
>Amon had a terrible father, but still shows some kind of love for him
>Now this with Kaneki

the absolute madman.
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>>133637366
What's cooler, getting in a fight with a practical no-name in the ghoul world and dying, or getting in a fight with a known Death God, lasting for more than a minute and then die.
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>>133637208
At least Hirako didn't get kekd and had to see his girl's headless body
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>>133637405
Akira slaps him in the face
Kagune gets stiff
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>>133637241
Where is Touka when we need her?
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>>133637349
>tfw she's actually legal to drink in Nipland
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>>133637431
>His "death" in the original was more of a "I can finally stop struggling forwards"
Still suicidal.
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>>133637476
How the fuck are you gonna manage to drink her even if she is legal, anon?
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>tfw Kaneki was actually praising Urie for trying to fight an SS-rank ghoul instead of running
I just don't know what is what anymore.
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>>133637361
S A S U G A
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>>133637439
Fighting to protect someone and losing with witnesses.
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>>133637448
Sucking Rio's dick.
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>>133637448
>TG:RE 54
>Kaneki/Haise gets killed by Eto
>Next page changes to RE
>Touka is riding random dick
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>>133636719
i knew this was going to be relevant
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>>133637490
No, that's just a tired man accepting death.
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>>133637439
This, and also he was in a different mindset in the Amon fight. His suicidal tendencies got much worse after the torture.
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>>133637528
>>133637529
Oh god, not again.
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>>133637437
At least Amon got better mentally. Kaneki's been on a downward spiral ever since.
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>>133637533
what if eto based her books on kanekis story and she knew him all along?
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>>133637448
>Kaneki stays with the CCG for reasons, still does his own thing though
>Arima calls him to his office and gives him a present
>A nostalgic feeling ukaku quinque
>cut to big bro looking worried on rooftops
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Does Matsuri and maybe even Ui (shit we will arrive too early at this rate) want Sasaki to get killed ?

He could still be talking about Shuu I guess but he left Sasaki to die against Takizawa already.
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>>133637551
Depends how you define "suicidal".
I've been depressed for years, and I just feel tired and would welcome death, though I wouldn't make a consciously active effort to take my own life.
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>>133637596
What if eto is actually his grandmother and she programmed his mother to do that so she could base her book on it.
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>>133637618
Ui was talking about the train manifesto
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>>133637499
I kek'd. Nice one, anon. Needed a good laugh after this chapter.
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>>133637596
Didn't she say she found an idea for her next book after Kaneki met her for the first time?
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>>133637596
>>133636271
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>>133637618
I think Matsuri definitely wants the Qs and Haise dead. Not so sure about Ui.
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>>133635715
>>133635889
>>133635896
Are you people stupid?

It doesn't have the shiny shit filter IS had, it looks miles better than the garbage IS had just because of that.

The rest is the raws obviously not having that good quality.
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>Hide turns out to be Kaneki's only real family
>Eats him


We thought that Ishida was only going to give us more suffering.

And now he makes even the past suffering worse.
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>>133637640
What if eto is actually his mother and faked her death just to screw around?
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>>133637642
My pleasure, anon.
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>>133637533
Hence the torture on Ayato. It all makes sense now.

IIIISHIIIIDAAAAAAA
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>>133637439
well, now he has training from Arima and more fighting experience AND Dove knowledge.

Pretty sure with a bit more plot, he can take on and die to Arima/Eto/Whaleman all at once.
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>>133637673
This chapter made the entirety of TG 10x more tragic.
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>>133637673
>implying Hide is dead
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>>133637476
>Saiko will never be your bartender
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>>133637618
Yeah, he probably means Haise. Arima and Yoshitoki are in charge of Haise/Qs project so getting him killed is a blow to both of them.
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Eto is so petty, Tatara is a real leader.
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>>133637756
He needs to fight more. We still don't know what he's fully capable of yet, nor his RC type.
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>>133637065
well thats nice i get it
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>>133637033
Kaneki wants to die in a cool way, what's more cool than dying in the name of protecting your friends?
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So...that happened. A recap:

>Matsuri's still a faggot, going on about MUH CREDIT
>Ui is actually incredibly autistic, listing a shit load of train stations and reminiscing about melon bread with Ihei. Should have known he was autistic, seeing as he perfectly used the Autism Dodge in the Anteiku Raid. And he's been deliberately taking the long way through the building, cos he apparently does't want to arrive too quickly.
>Eto crashed the helicopter...but there was a survivor. YOU HAD ONE JOB, ETO.
>Shirazu and Saiko are the last ones standing against Noro. Not sure for how long though.
>Sasaki is jobbing again.
>Everything we knew about Kaneki was a lie. He was just incredibly suicidal and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. And his mother was abusive.
>Furuta's gonna get away with it. And we have confirmation that Based Maid Matsumae really is dead. ;_;
>FINALLY. Oyasumi, Haise.

I dunno. There's some thing about this chapter that seems so damn random, trippy and incomprehensible compared to the last few chapters...is Ishida okay?
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>>133637820
The Kaneki as deconstruction of a shounen mc angle makes even more sense with the new chapter
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>>133637847
>Everything we knew about Kaneki was a lie.
Nah, makes perfect sense within the context of what we knew about him already.
>>133637847
>and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory
We already knew that from TG. Did you not read the manga.
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I'm legit confused, anons. Can somebody tell me what the train stations symbolize? Is it some kind of foreshadowing?
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>>133637793
According to Root A it's a Bikaku.
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>>133637879
It's a drinking game apparently.
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>>133637883
Root what?
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>>133637756
>implying Eto is a leader of any sort
>implying she's not just there to fuck shit up
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>>133637847
>Ui is actually incredibly autistic

As expected of one of Arima's dick suckers.
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>>133637919
In Japan, autism is an STD.
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>>133637207
TGfags will say it was FORESHADOWED, even if it wasn't.

Kaneki was never suicidal, he wanted to protect everyone.

Jesus chirst the circlejerking in this fanbase is like fucking One Piece, Oda never asspulls shit, Oda FORESHADOWS everything, Oda doesn't make the same arc again and again , he uses parallels.

TGfags will eat shit if Ishida gave them a 2deep4u reason
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>>133637892
What's the significance of Ebisu?
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>Kanou turns Kaneki into a monster
>Lies right at his face
>Uses him as an experiment
>Basically destroyed his life
>Kaneki still almost went and followed him
>Haise's parents are Akira and Arima
>Kaneki's are Rize and Kanou

I don't wanna ride anymore.
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Why is 29(30) such a cunt?
Is it because he looks older than his father?
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>>133637895
Root A - 2nd Season
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>>133637987
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>>133637895
Don't worry about it.
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>>133637622
Are you me.
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>>133637883
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>>133636023
They're the guys that made Pocky, anon. Princess has a sweet tooth.
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>>133637883
Yeah, he's bikaku in TG carnaval.
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>>133637847
THANK YOU
NO HAIRU DEAD CONFIRM YET
HER HEAD INSIDE THE COAT !
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>>133635381
Fuck, man.
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Why are we stopping? What the fuck is going on?
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>>133637939
But he was clearly seeking a "cool death" that would have everyone love him in TG.
Not even foreshadowing. Pretty much explicitly stated.
He was, like his mother, overworking himself into an early grave, under the guise of protecting everyone. He wanted to be a cool "tragic hero" like Touka pointed out. Dying to protect his friends = his "cool" death, that makes everyone love him.

>>133638021
Are you a chubby short hikikomori girl too?
>tfw I'm literally Saiko
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>>133638221
From chapter 51, Hairu is dead. Get over it.

>>133638287
That's what she said.
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>>133637579
After her mother died and when he left her aunts home to be independent he was actually pretty good then. If only Rize didn't happen
>At least Amon got better mentally
how about now
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>>133637939
Most OPfags accept he doesn't necessarily foreshadow, he places elements he could use later. You can't really plan 800 chapters ahead, especially not with the first hundred or so when you could all of a sudden plummet in ratings and get canned.
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>>133638326
post face
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>>133638329
it is her head is listed
the rest of her body is still fine anon
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>>133637207
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>>133638329
>Haise is going to bed.
>Half of the Qs are kill.
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>>133638388
Go away Torso.
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>>133638287
>>133638329
Not to you, anon.
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>>133638331
>not going batshit like seidou
>kills ghouls only
>saved Saiko
>pretty much batman

Yeah, I'd say he's mentally well off, anon.
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>>133638406
Don't give me that bullshit, truly suicidal people don't care how they die.
Besides, dying against MMMMMMMMMBOY or Amon isn't stylish?
He didn't drop to the floor to die after the Amon hit, he ran into the sewers to hide and survive.
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>>133638438
>not going batshit crazy YET like seido from eating ghouls
>eating ghouls only
>ok
>no

Eh, I don't think so
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>>133638474
Holy shit, why can't you get that it's more complicated than that?
Have you ever been suicidal? Or depressed?
He had a death wish, and was unconsciously working himself to an early grave, "in a cool way" involving protecting his friends, like the heroes in books he reads, who everyone loves.
You can call that not suicidal if you want, but that's what this chapter told us, and what original TG already revealed to us.
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>>133637939
>he wanted to protect everyone

Stopped right there. How about you reread the last couple chapters of TG?
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>>133638560
Seriously. I'm not one of those people that thinks Ishida planned literally everything and defends him against all criticism but it's really irritating me how many people in this thread completely missed the significance of the end of TG, and are now complaining that it doesn't make sense.
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>>133638474
>Hey...
>I was happy.
>That underground flower field
>Back then
>I get to meet the Reaper!

Again, that was before Autismus Rex skullfucked the poor boy.
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>>133638557
The original TG revealed he wanted to protect his friends and survive, not die. The entire fucking reason white hair kaneki was born was so he could survive.
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>>133637404
I don't know why people ignore this.

>>133637241
I don't think Touka noticed he was suicidal.
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>>133638634
Because we can't trust his injuries and he wasn't sane in the first place.
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>>133638620
That's what he thought after the Yamori torture, but after that, in V14 he realised that he was still behaving like his mother and overworking himself, like her. He took no care of his own mental state or own safety and went into a battle that everyone warned him was suicide.
Touka sort of said it before that in 120 too.
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>>133638718
>and went into a battle that everyone warned him was suicide.
He did that before he was stabbed in the head twice and realized he was acting like his mother.
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Kaneki wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, like a shounen hero protecting his friends.
This is not new information.
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>>133638620
I think that side of him was already there even before that, he probably developed it since he was a child to protect himself. probably why Shironeki's a child
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>>133638780
Yeah, exactly. He wasn't consciously suicidal, he only realised it when it was too late.
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>>133638811
Then that's not suicidal, that's just a destructive personality.
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>>133637879
The longer it takes her to get to Haise the bigger the chance he dies.
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>>133635640
So Haise/Kaneki can kind of step into the mind of Eto and vice versa?

Nice.

And I also did a double-take at that comment. Eto was spot-on.
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>>133635381
Shirazu said that outside of Kuramoto who's severely wounded, he doesn't know the condition of anyone else. Him and Saiko must've booked it the moment everyone else got taken down.
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>>133638782
This this this this

Kaneki really wants to die, but like a legend, he wanted people to remember him, to love him or hate him, he doesn't care, he wants to make an impression. He's a boy who's been suffering his whole life, people fucked him up one way or another, and all he wants is to be like the hero in his goddamn books, he wants to die protecting everyone.

Of course he was happy when he met Arima in v14, he wanted to die fighting the strongest.
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>>133638620

But wasn't the whole point, like Touka pointed out, that he tried so hard to protect them because he's ultimately afraid of being lonely? That might be why he wants to die too, I mean "become loved by others, and then die a cool death". So basically achieve a moment of happiness and then die before it can be taken away from him.
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>>133637596
So, everything that Eto does is just because she knew about him from the start? And this why Kaneki became her fan?

I mean it's pretty inconvenient to hear her saying that he enjoys hitting
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>>133637756
So Eto still has a chance to be saved then
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>>133637847
>Is Ishida okay?

You tell me.
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>>133639216
No,she is a lost cause
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>>133639238
>cause
Very good reason. Still everything has a chance to be saved, or you just don't like happy endings
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>>133639220
He's just trying to be deep and unique. And it's working.
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>>133639238
She doesn't need saving, she's a strong girl
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>>133637448
Busy with Rio
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>>133635381
I wonder if Kaneki will let go of his dream (Haise) for integral time and remember all the shit happened with Arima and all, on the other hand I wonder how Kaneki will interact with the Qs, well, if they survive.
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>>133638823
Okay. A lot of people used "suicidal" as a way of describing that, my point was just that this chapter was consistent with the earlier TG chapters.
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I feel like this chapter doesn't entirely fit with what we known so far.Smells like he retconed Kaneki's mom just for the sake of drama
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>>133639220
>my feet hurt
>why does this light shine on my face
>checkerboards everywhere
>I just want to die in style
>tfw God of death didn't kill me
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Could someone clean up the dialogue bubbles in this page? I tried doing it but it didn't work out very well. I'd love to have this spread as a wallpaper.
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>>133639510
See >>133637163
And also >>133637533
Seems to me we always had clues just nothing clear
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>>133639585
Yeah, when I first read the spoilers I had a weird feeling about it, and wasn't sure what to think, but after almost a day to process it I like it - this makes sense in a way retcons usually don't, and fits perfectly with what we know of Kaneki's personality.
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>>133637664
He doesn't need them dead, he just needs to convince everyone that they're dangerous and not any different than regular ghouls. All they need is a freak out or one of them eating human flesh to be witnessed. Because then not only was the Q project a failure, it was putting the CCG at risk.
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