>https://archive.moe
This was the only /a/ archive. 4 months of /a/ have been lost forever ;_;
>>131917021
It was like that for most of /a/'s life, you know.
>no more /ghost/
Good riddance!
>>131917021
Does it matter? Wanting any semblance of permanence is just asking for problems.
>>131917021
good, never needed archives.
>>131917021
>Can't see what people are replying to when I see all of the (Dead) posts
>>131917316
This.
>>131917021
That sucks. I liked to use the archive to go back and see /a/'s real time reaction to new episodes that I missed being there for.
Oh well, guess it's time to live in the now.
>>131917450
This.
>whatever disappear into the abyss of (Dead) remains loss forever
Fuck
Hopefully someone else will take over again.
I hope Chinese moot deletes /r9k/.
How are future generations supposed to know how much Umaru was revered as AOTY??
>>131918389
it will be a rumor passed down through the ages
https://4ch.archive.horse/a/
>>131918756
only has 16 pages, the built in archive has more threads than that
That owner was short lived.
>>131917092
>>131917188
>>131917316
I don't think being annoyed about this is unjustified:
>>131918196
>>131918877
Hisashiburidana, /a/.
Sorry to intrude.
I've heard of it, the recent change in hands of ownership. And now the archive too, has been compromised along with our pride.
Heh, what did we do in our pastlives deserving of such a cruel fate my brothers?
>>131919003
Lasted longer than Green-Oval did, if barely. To date the best archive admins we've had were Eksopl and Woxxy. Not coincidentally they were also the ones who did the most to develop the archive system. Passing it off to some guy whose only goal was to maintain it without developing it further was a mistake.
/a/ only archive when?
>>131919610
This.
>>131918859
That's because he literally only started archiving after moe was confirmed dead.
>all of Hiro's posts are gone
>>131919290
>4chan gets bought out
>archive dies
>now our board is being fucking haunted
FUCK
>>131919695
>all of moot's posts are gone
>>131919290
I miss Ken-sama.
Thank you for killing the archive to get rid of those DMCA'd posts, Daiz. Now I guess people really will never find them again.
>>131919771
We only lost posts from the last 4 months.
>that one Code Geass thread made on the 28th is now lost forever
Is there even a point in living anymore?
>>131919695
His Q&A posts are still on RBT.
>>131919695
https://archive.is/bkYk4
>>131919771
Literally who?
Just CTR+S the threads you enjoyed like I do, fucking plebs.
>>131917450
You never know if you are getting good lewds or shitposts.
>>131919790
This image is a LIE.
>>131919695
/qa/ is on another archive.
The entire summer season is gone, though.
>>131919290
I will persist, Ken-sama.
You told me to, and so will I.
>>131917021
Why must life be so tragic?
>>131919790
Thanks, Daiz.
Kek sounds like he's going to kill himself.
I'd ask him to archive it for us to watch but he'd just lose it.
>>131919974
It's good that his /qa/ posts are preserved. He's posted on other boards now and again too though. Immediately after his Q&A, he started posting across multiple boards.
When Rome came burning down, scholars in the middle east kept copies of many of their texts so they weren't lost forever. Maybe some /a/non out there was keeping a separate copy on his own storage.
>>131919610
Originally /a/'s archive was just a personal project of a Russian anon. Then he made his code available to people.
The reason /a/ hasn't had its own archive in a very long time is because the /a/rchive became the foundation of the modern 4chan archives on Foolz and Archive.moe. This is the reason that /a/ has the oldest threads in the mainstream archives, because the Fuuka archiver was developed by /a/nons.
>>131919932
I do that all the time. The thing is archive was great for quick searching, you can find anything in literally seconds if you remember some words or filenames and you don't have to carry all of your saved pages around with you.
>>131920064
I will, from now on at least.
I've had it with these unreliable fucking archives.
>>131920046
Oh right, the entire walmart thing is gone too
>>131920064
>Comparing 4chin to rome
kill yourself my man.
>>131920064
Did you make this up?
>one hundred tabs of archived threads
Well shit, guess I'm fucked now.
Some of your posts are alright.
Don't go to archive.moe tomorrow.
>>131920124
I don't understand why autists think comparing a smaller thing to a larger thing as an analogy is meant to make the small thing appear greater.
>>131920124
4chan is Rome if it was built in a day.
>>131920124
>not comparing 4chin to Rome
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm
die in a lava
I'm lurking Hasumi's IRC channel and it looks like various people are working on setting up new archives.
>>131920245
>I.10.2-3 (Bar of Prima); 8258, 8259: The story of Successus, Severus and Iris is played out on the walls of a bar: [Severus]: тАЬSuccessus, a weaver, loves the innkeeperтАЩs slave girl named Iris. She, however, does not love him. Still, he begs her to have pity on him. His rival wrote this. Goodbye.тАЭ. [Answer by Successus]: тАЬEnvious one, why do you get in the way. Submit to a handsomer man and one who is being treated very wrongly and good looking.тАЭ [Answer by Severus]: тАЬI have spoken. I have written all there is to say. You love Iris, but she does not love you.тАЭ
Fucking cucks I swear
All I care about are the Madoka threads. The Madoka threads must live on for eternity.
>>131920245
>VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1811: A small problem gets larger if you ignore it.
Phileros on the topic of 4chan filters
>>131920245
>I.2.20 (Bar/Brothel of Innulus and Papilio); 3932: Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates menтАЩs behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
One of the first trapfags.
>>131920091
Wow, /a/ has the deepest lore.
>>131920245
Gaius and Aulus anime when
>>131920245
VII.9 (Eumachia Building, via della Abbondanza); 2048: Secundus likes to screw boys.
So, Secundus is a fag?
>>131917450
Deleting posts should be forbidden
>>131920524
>>131920245
R O M A
O L I M
M I L O
A M O R
Why are there so little anime set in ancient rome? I can only think of one.
>>131917021
This is fucking terrible.
No webmaster is stupid enough not to backup their databases. This was a deliberate act
Either way I'm horrified
>>131920245
>VI.6.1 (House of the Olii; on the Via Consolare); 139: The city block of the Arrii Pollii in the possession of Gnaeus Alleius Nigidius Maius is available to rent from July 1st. There are shops on the first floor, upper stories, high-class rooms and a house. A person interested in renting this property should contact Primus, the slave of Gnaeus Alleius Nigidius Maius.
So they even had commercial spam back then. They could have really used a captcha.
>>131920714
>not to backup their databases
But he did.
/v/'s laughing at you. Me too.
>>131920752
I mean back them up to a separate physical location. There's almost no point in storing backups on the same machine
>>131920714
No professional webmaster at least, in all likelihood he was an amateur without that much experience because of things he said like "a number of mistakes" and not feeling he's cut out for the job of running the archive.
>>131920773
You should not laugh, /v/.
https://desustorage.org/
>>131920851
>No /v/
That'll show 'em!
>>131920773
You don't even have an archive.
So why did /a/ only have one archive again? Seems a bit stupid.
>>131920934
Because it's expensive to host an /a/ archive.
>>131920851
>https://desustorage.org/
>no /c/
no good
>>131920941
Certainly not you, reddit-kun
>>131920989
But it's probably less expensive than hosting an /a/+everything else in 4chan archive.
We need an /a/-only archive already.
>>131920934
see >>131920091
/a/ originally had the best archive, hands down, that's why the archivers took on the task of hosting a bunch of other boards. Because /a/'s archive was integrated into the main archive there was no impetus to create a separate one.
The fucking christians did it.
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/world.will.end.with.fire.on.wednesday.october.7.2015.christian.group.predicts/66818.htm
>>131920524
Secundus is the original proto-/b/-tard, a man of such faggotry and disgusting habits that he ascended to the realm of the ancient gods.
Legend has it he told moot in a dream to create /b/ so that his spirit would live forevermore.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Secundus
>>131921039
It would still be expensive. And it would have to be administered by someone who knows what's he's doing or you'll get another archive.moe.
>>131921076
>world.will.end.with.fire.on.wednesday.october.7.2015
I had some bad diarrhea in the morning. Is that world-shattering?
>>131919837
I archived it personally, I'll distribute it if needed.
>>131921086
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Secundus
Truly the Daiz of his generation.
rizon.net #archive.moe if you want to watch the people decide the future of the archives.
looks like Mayhem is involved
>>131921022
/c/ is already on other archives.
The only boards who don't have an archive now are /m/ and /v/.
>>131920245
Half of this is people boasting about
their penises or how much they screwed around. I guess people will never change.
>>131921086
So this is who Daiz worships.
>>131921066
It was /jp/'s archive that originally spawned the /a/ archive and other related archives.
/a/ eventually surpassed the /jp/ archive, but it also has had more owners and crashes. A shame that the warosu admin never wanted to archive /a/, since he seems to know how to run this shit.
There's only one person to blame.
>there are faggots so new they have never experienced a time without archives
>there are faggots so new they want archives
>>131921334
>It was /jp/'s archive that originally spawned the /a/ archive and other related archives.
You realize the /a/rchive literally predates /jp/'s existence right?
>>131920245
>I.7.8 (bar; left of the door); 8162: We two dear men, friends forever, were here. If you want to know our names, they are Gaius and Aulus.
Truly best of bros ;_;7
>>131921334
/jp/ and /a/ should have never split up in the first place. Fucking moot.
>>131921250
>you were kicked from rizon.net by ChanServ (reserved)
ok
>>131921435
Shut your whore mouth
the /g/ archive was pretty darn useful for searching both hardware and software recommendations.
Google is useless horse shit filled with nothing but advertisements in comparison. Finding "the best <thing>" is impossible without conversation among nerds.
>>131921363
The villain shows up to laugh at the results of his action.
>>131921522
/g/ archive uses a different website, it's still up
>>131921263
>/c/ is already on other archives
Where? I can't find any
>>131921334
>It was /jp/'s archive that originally spawned the /a/ archive
Oldest /a/ archive is from 2007, little more than personal project, but was the foundation of the Fuuka software used by virtually all major archives now. Easymodo also predates /jp/. I have no clue where you get this idea that /jp/ somehow came first in the archives.
>>131921522
/g/ has two other archives, there's no problem.
>>131921522
/g/ is one of the most actively archived boards, along with /tg/.
Shit, anyone else AKB0048 here? Just realized the hidden theater is dead again
>/v/ is being removed due to the amount of stress it causes on the servers.
Thanks, /v/.
>>131921614
http://archive.loveisover.me/
http://archive.nyafuu.org/
Use this in the future http://ar.vyrd.net/
So only 4 months are lost, that's not horrible the question is who's gonna host it
>>131921506
You're a faggot AND an idiot. /a/ was so much faster and more fun before the split.
>>131919610
You would wonder why no one has thought about that. I mean shit, /cgl/ has their own archive and only cunts visit that shit hole.
>>131921762
Thanks anon I literally just found these myself
>>131921791
/jp/iese go hom
>>131921774
/a/'s being hosted by a ponyfag right now, but his archive has no search function so it's not very useful at the moment
but at least nothing is being lost
also a private collector is working on saving the last 4 months
>>131921760
We should be thankful. They're so shitty we can finally admit to cut our losses and get them to fuck off.
>>131921791
The split also caused /jp/ to become the shithole that is now. Sad really.
>>131921834
Go to fucking Gaia, loser. Pre-schism /a/ was a mile a minute, had no Big3 faggotry, and was fun and funny damn near every day due to the fantastic thread turnover weeding out shit.
>>131921858
>The split also caused /jp/ to become the shithole that is now
The split causing its existence caused it to become shit? I guess that makes sense?
>>131921912
If /jp/ was deleted today they'd come here to troll not be friends likely
>>131921791
>>131921760
But who will archive the template threads, console wars, and filename threads now?
>>131921334
You're wrong.
>Can't do daily search for "feet" to see all the contents and mentions of delicious feet other Anons make through the day.
Where am I supposed to get my fix now?
>>131920453
Nah, Ancient Greece bros were far ahead.
>>131921858
Actually, what turned /jp/ into what it is today was of terrible administration and dedicated shitposters, the board was alright for a while. I don't think that tearing down the wall nowadays would work.
http://sheekyforums.com/section/anime
>>131922033
>>131921912
Please no. We don't need Touhou autism back on this board. Getting rid of Touhous was worth everything else we lost in the split.
It's okay you guys. Just put new water in the fish tank and archive.moe will be alive when we go to school tomorrow morning! I saw it in anime.
>tfw no longer have to run script to randomize image filename numbers so I won't be accused of crossboarding when some autist searches up the filename in the archive
>>131922033
This but really it's the dedicated shitposters more than the administration in my opinion.
The dedicated shitposters on /jp/ are of a different breed
>>131921334
Warosuko is an incompetent piece of shit incapable of banning dickspammer
Fuck him
Instead of panicking, we need to make a concrete strategy to ensure that no more is lost by getting a new archive, or at least getting a temporary home for /a/'s archive until we can get someone to take over on a permanent basis.
I think the best option might actually be 4plebs, since that's probably the next most active archive. It seems they might be amenable http://archive.4plebs.org/plebs/
But in the long term, we need a more sustainable solution. As in, whoever is going to do the archive probably needs a bit of money.
>>131921965
not really
jp does keep to itself and prefers to be alone
http://strawpoll.me/5677886
>>131921960
>The split causing its existence caused it to become shit? I guess that makes sense?
No, you fucking retard newfag. /jp/ used to be fun when it started. Then the people that went to /jp/ from /a/ when both boards were one suddenly were outnumbered or left and that caused /jp/ to become a shithole, like it is now.
The /jp/ part of /a/ was pretty easy to spot when they were one.
>>131922130
You are deluding yourself, you have some very horrible posters in /jp/.
>>131921965
Same thing after they were split off. You had random vagrants coming back and forth to troll each others' boards that they had claimed as home.
Eventually they got tired as you were essentially shitting on post-war reconstruction societies and more or less shooting mud. That, and after equalizing, /a/ had far, far more ability to fuck around than /jp/ did in the reverse direction.
Have you people ever even gone to /jp/? All the "shitposter old guard" has left for spinoff boards and IRC, the board's been reduced to monstergirl furries, kancolle mouthbreathers and /c/ imagedumpers
http://strawpoll.me/5677901
>>131922024
I'm going to miss doing this for navels.
Also going to missing looking through old threads after finishing a series from past seasons.
>>131922172
if you're an outsider they are not welcoming , that is it, they dont bother anyone else.
>>131922145
quite the loaded question you got there
>>131922090
>watching shitty anime
>>131922059
I wonder if it's possible to scrape sheeky for some of the threads that were lost.
>>131921774
>>131921837
Don't forget this exists http://boards.4chan.org/a/archive
Deleted posts are still gone but at least all images not deleted are there for a short period of time. Careful not to overload it by massive downloading everything.
>>131920851
>/r9k/
Here we go again.
>>131922216
>furries
you dont know or porbably care what that is.
>>131922086
>We don't need Touhou autism back on this board
Pre-schism, the most concentrated touhou was the odd /c/-in-/a/ thread, or a touhouhijack (which admittedly is impossible now unless several people are working together). It's /jp/ that became such an echo chamber that autistic waifu/character threads.
Like quest threads on /tg/, it's more a symptom than a cause of a board being shitty.
>>131922225
Those would be the ok posters, I'm talking about the fuck spammers and rest of those ilk.
>>131922216
>the board's been reduced to monstergirl furries, kancolle mouthbreathers and /c/ imagedumpers
Yeah, a bunch of crossboarders and newfag shitposters.
Every single 4chan archive has died, I'm tired of this I will start an archive that will cover all of 4chaj and will stay up forever
>>131922216
Both those generals keep to themselves and only make new threads after their current ones die (or at least get to page 10), which usually takes about an entire day. You'll barely ever see them unless you pay attention to the catalog.
The /c/ image dumps have always been there as well, there isn't much about Touhou to discuss other than which 2hu would you fuck.
>>131922245
Ikr! Most of the fags here don't know that DBZ is the best anime! Crazy I know!
>>131922304
Good luck.
>>131922304
You don't want to archive /b/ unless you want the feds bothering you all the time to remove illegal content
Friendly remainder that boxxy, touhu, ponies and gamergate killed 4chan. In that order.
>>131922222
>navals
My nigga. Nice digits.
Link to new archive?
>>131922304
Just archive /a/
>>131922304
Ganbatte /a/non.
Please respond http://strawpoll.me/5677942
>>131922274
Are you kidding? Touhou shit being way over represented on /a/ was one of the main reasons /jp/ was created. Because it got CONSTANT threads despite being only tangentially related to the board's topic. Touhou was /a/'s version of Homestuck before there was a Homestuck.
>>131922383
you're forgetting legionz
>>131922306
But there are no smart people left. Nobody's called me out for misusing TeX quotes in two years and the last time I saw a properly used /prog/ meme was in 2014.
>>131917021
Reminder of things lost from Summer 2015
>Sore ga Seiyuu threads lost
>Danchigai threads lost
>Bikini warriors threads lost
>Joukamachi no Dandelion threads lost
>Wakako-zake threads lost
>Kuusen threads lost
>Non Non Biyori Threads lost
>Overlord threads lost
>Okusama ga seitokaicho threads lost
>Rokka no Yuusha threads lost
>Working!!! threads lost
>Arslan Senki ending lost
>Baby steps s2 ending lost
>Kyoukai no Rinne ending lost
>Gatchman Crowds insight threads lost
>Shougeki no Souma ending lost
>Mushishi ending thread lost
>Classroom Crisis threads lost
>Wakaba Girl threads lost
>Gakkou Gurashi threads lost
>Akagami no Shirayuki threads lost
>Jitsu watashi was threads lost
>Shimoneta threads lost
>Monster Musume threads lost
>Umaru threads lost
>Prison School threads lost
>Fate/Kaleid Liner threads lost
>Durarara Ten threads lost
>Ranpo Kitan Threads lost
>Chaos Dragon threads lost
>Gangsta threads lost
>transfer from moot to hiro
>ken sama threads
>>131922412
>>131922304
Just make it an /a/rchive and people will love you. Who gives a shit about other boards?
>>131917021
Come one now, we had this thread yesterday. It was agreed that
>archives come and go
>/a/ is best board
>>131919974
Shit, and I actually didn't have time to lurk /a/ for the past 2 months.
http://archive.loveisover.me/
http://archive.nyafuu.org/
http://ar.vyrd.net/
http://archive.4plebs.org
fgts.jp
Quick post all active archives
>>131922395
desustorage.org
>>131922417
>that Anohana faggot
Kill yourself.
>>131922470
This except /g/, you should archive /g/.
>>131922431
Everyone moved on to Gensokyo.
I remember when we didn't have archives at all
>>131922504
/g/ has at least two existing archives already
>>131922441
>>131922059
Fuck off already.
>>131922425
legionz marks the beginning of the modern 4chin tho
>>131922304
There's already one up to replace moe.
I think all that's needed is funding and/or competence.
>>131922442And nothing of value was lost.
>>131922522
I'm lazy tho
>>131922518At this point 4chan has spent more time with an archive than without one.
>if you miss deleted threads, they're gone for good
>you now have to babysit susceptible threads, else you'll miss out on board culture, aka the meaning of life
>the chronic-NEET elite will rein superior, while wageslaves like myself will miss out more and more
>>131922442
Thankfully it was a shitty season that got canned.
>>131922470
Seconding this. If one person just wanted to archive /a/ it wouldn't be a huge undertaking.
>>131922534
>funding a ponyfucker website
We already suffer enough with sadpanda
And the new admin was talking shit about Hiro being incompetent a few weeks ago. GET FUCKED KIDDO!
>>131922497
Oh shit, is this real?
>>131922518
>>131922582Why are you hiding?
>>131922504
>you should archive /g/.
/g/ is long gone my friend, its now devolved into battlestation faggotry, mac/iphone/android wars/shilling and windows botnet spam
God damn, I used the archive all the time to look up opinions on shows and manga instead of making threads about them.
This really sucks.
>>131922586
Such is the life of a wagecuck.
We can never perfect any hobby due to our slavemasters.
RIP in pieces
>>131922582
Wow.
>>131922633
Yeah, the guy says he'll add the moe dumps. Says he doesn't need funding at the moment.
>>131922442
wow it's fucking nothing
>>131919695
Seriously this, every since Hiro started posting I'd been checking the archive three times a day to not miss his antics.
>>131922694
honestly we need one for anime fuck the rest of the boards
>>131922145
How is that even a question.
>>131922496
>http://archive.loveisover.me/wide/ has a password
B-BUT I WANTED TO SEE ALL THE WIDE HIDAMARIS
>I can now delete posts forever and they'll be gone forever
I'll enjoy it while it lasts
>>131919771
Did he ever say anything constructive or of worth?
>>131922707
so search function when?
or does he plan to drop it?
someone should make an exclusive /a/ archive even if someone else is archiving /a/
you put all your eggs in one basket and shit like this happens.
>>131922746
Not really
>>131922582
I don't think a lack of an archive is an essential part of blue board culture. It's being anonymous that makes us who we are.
>>131922668
I'm finding myself in the same situation now anon.
I don't want to do it. Hopefully the desu archive manages to become the replacement.
>>131922668
>firefox
>>131922442
>Umaru threads lost
All this shitposting gone, depressing.
>>131922707
Excellent. Search features will be dealt with afterwards, yes?
>>131922097
>some autist
Clearly the autist here is you
>>131922759
I think he mentioned implementing searches when he can handle it. Right now it's too much strain.
>>131922746
That he was retiring
>>131922800
This
>>131919771
>>131922746
But they're not gone. Only the posts from these past 4 months will be lost.
>>131922736
>mods can now delete any thread they want and nobody will ever be able to call them out
>>131922796
>>131922817
He said he would implement it when he can afford it.
>>131922759
https://desustorage.org/desu/thread/72/#q136
He says he doesn't need funding, but maybe he's just being polite.
>>131922442
>some chiyo threads are gone
>>131922852
lel is that you /u/ autist kun from the Madoka threads and the archive?
>>131922788
>blue ribbons threads gone forever
>>131922442
Actually, I always fall behind so I like to check the archives when finished, fuck me even if it was a shit show.
>>131922525
literally the only source of archived /a/ whether you like it or not
>>131922855
Well as long as the fetching is back online that's what matters. Searching is needed for long term, but as long as nothing is being lost.
>>131922788
Chiyo please.
>>131919695
At least I saved this.
>>131922796
So it seems.
>>131922497
Doesn't work.
>>131922788
Blue Chiyo less rude than you.
>>131922855
Great. Is he accepting donations?
Honestly, the archives are so liked that we could probably pay for everything with crowdfunding.
>>131922788
Nothing is better.
>>131922914
>gave me feels
>Katawa Shoujo
>>>/r9k/
>>131922950
I don't understand why he didn't just fucking ask us
>>131917021
The guy that ran it was an incompetent fool, he should never have ran it in the first place, IIRC he lost a load of data shortly after he took over.
>>131922924
What's the fucking context, nigger?
What was he replying to?
>>131922442
There's also the last month of spring 2015 shows if you're talking about 4 months back.
>>131922788
Every single browser is shit. Firefox is just less shit. But only a little.
>>131921263
>The only boards who don't have an archive now are /m/
Kind of sad there's no /m/ archives; they often get some decent tidbits I more often miss on /a/ when it comes to a series with mecha. And they have the Twintail and MuvLuv threads that I regularly hover over and refer back to as needed.
They also sometimes delve into older /a/ territory, so that's nice as well.
>>131922999
Someone asked if he would delete /r9k/
>>131922999
Nice trips. He was posting on /r9k/ and responding to someone asking about Spencer the normie Dispenser.
>>131923018
Why is this shit allowed? They're just pulling threads and slapping ads all over them.
>>131923018
So much Sheeky Forums OC lost.
>>131922995
Yes, he was a fool, but he was the only fool that took the challenge.
>>131923018
Holy shit, there's also this thing! Can we reverse-archive it?
>>131917021
it was only a matter of time since the abunch of thumbnails and images were lost almost immediately after the transfer from Foolz. and so the cycle is destined to repeat yet again.
>>131922442
>umaru threads lost
>umaru funposting across the site lost
>monmusu threads lost
There is a god and he's a cunt.
>>131922950
https://desustorage.org/desu/thread/72/#q172
>>131923020
I'm hoping someone else will archive /a/ and /m/. It's always useful to have backups.
>>131922945
>>131922888
We lost some blue threads didn't we in those 4 months? Let's hope for some autist archiving them or the anon dumps it again one day.
>>131922090
You calling us flat, son?
>>131923003
Actually it's a big shit nowadays. Uses a shitton of memory and slows down a lot if you have more than a few tabs.
>The dump will be available at the following address: https://archive.moe/dump/
So the dump isn't yet available?
