My vote would go to Hideaki Anno.
Anno will lead the anime industry after Miyazaki dies.
Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
>>124568522
Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
There is no "second Miyazaki." Every other director is absorbed within the industry to an extent that normalfags will never enjoy their works.
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry?
Gundam, Yamato...
>>124568522
bait thread
>>124568606
Hell, Dragon Ball Z is probably bigger everywhere except 4chan.
>>124568522
Monogatari is literally the pinnacle of anime.
>>124568993
But it barely gets any attraction outside of Japan and hardcore fans unlike Miyazaki, the most people know is the toothbrush scene and they just write it off as another "anime" thing
>>124568993
Wait anon-kun, take your brain medicine before you start posting in the 4chans
>>124568522
Everyone who doesnt have the head up the ass knows anno is a hack, he is the george lucas of japan
>>124568522
Shonenshit like Wan Piss, Narutu, Bleach, Dragon Ball and HxH. Madoka. K-On. Haruhi. Ghost in the Shell. Shingeki no Kyojin. Studio Ghibli movies. Kill la Kill. Fullmetal Alchemist. Death Note. Sword Art Online. All the Gundam shit. Cowboy Bepop.
You're kidding yourself if you think Eva is "big" and anyone but degenerate otakus still care about that garbage. Plenty of anime have made as much or more noise in the world. Plebs and normies haven't even heard of Eva outside Japan.
bigger than Anno? nope
Anno is the most important person in anime industry right now. no matter you agree it or not, japanese believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcRWD7qsNs
4.0 when
>>124569351
Anno is full of bullshit but eva is a milestone in anime, no point trying to deny it, only underage babies and newfags will say otherwise
![shinbou[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r3FRbZy.jpg "shinbou[1].jpg")
Hi
I am almost embarrassed to say I barely discovered Re-Take today. According to the multi-verse theory, is it considered canon?
>>124569445
Hopefully never, 3 is already a trainwreck of epic proportions, no need to add to the bodycount, Anno should have been taken to the street and shot dead after that travesty
Mitsuo Iso.
>>124569241
Yeah, everyone knows that Cory in the House is the pinnacle of anime.
>>124568522
He influenced anime more than any other person currently active in the industry.
>>124569567
What was wrong with it. It developed the setting well and sets up for 4.0. No one's dick fell off when 1.0 came out but then 2.0 ended people were chopping off their own genitalia and mailing it to Anno.
Talent means loads of things I would say he is like the Don of the Industry though.
I don't think there is any person who is so talented and stands out from others.
>>124568574
Bet you and OP haven't seen Gunbuster yet.
Aya Hirano
her talent is much more subtle than anyone in this industry
>>124568522
Given time, Monogatari may overtake it
>>124569714
1 and 2 are fine, but if you cant see whats wrong with 3 by yourself then I have nothing to say to someone like you, enjoy your movie
>>124569445
You mean 3.0 + 1.0
This is the most talented person in the anime industry.
>>124568522
Tezuka Osamu was, Miyazaki, Satoshi Kon and Anno are the one that come closer.
>>124568522
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
Doraemon
>>124569874
Given time monogatari will be forgotten and the masses will move on to the next fad
;__;
>>124569926
Oh okay, so then nothing was wrong with it if you fail to be able to explain what it was.
>>124569936
Yep
>>124569351
Of those, only DBZ and Gundam have matched Eva in terms of impact.
>>124570043
Kon's ghost directing cute girls when?
>>124570032
>only going for six years
>bake alone sold more than gundam seed
>entirety of koyomimonogatari, owarimonogatari, zoku owarimonogatari, and kiumonogatari left to adapt
>>124570043
>Kon and Kondo will never come back from the dead to save anime
>>124570156
it's still shit
>>124568522
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
Oh yes I fucking can.
Fuck Gundam its part of the national culture at this point.
>>124570006
So there is no one outside of Anno and his bf.
>>124569487
That's what evafags keep saying, and you were gullible enough to buy into their bullshit. Anno is a hack and Eva is garbage that had no positive influence on the anime industry besides revitalizing and changing the worst genre into something a litlle less retarded.
Eva is by no means an animation, sound, directorial, cinematographic or storytelling anime milestone.
>>124570239
That's one hot opinion you got there
>>124570310
You're welcome
>>124570240
You've never been to Japan have you? There's at least 10x as much Eva stuff scattered throughout the culture than Gundam.
>miyazaki
>good
And I'd like Anno more if he'd actually go back to animating things.
>>124568574
Nadia, the Secret of Blue Water
Actually, it's by far his best job overall.
>>124568993
'story' is the pinnacle of anime?
>>124570357
I live in Japan, I can easily say that you're full of shit.
Name ONE anime better than this masterpiece.
Protip:You can't
>>124570357
And even more Wan Piss stuff.
>>124568522
>who is Yatabe Katsuyoshi?
>>124570357
Bullshit level maximum.
>>124570371
>Nadia better than Eva
There's a limit to trying to be different.
>>124569725
>Talent means loads of things I would say he is like the Don of the Industry though.
This here. Anno's talent in animation is solid, but more importantly he is also politically powerful within the industry.
He knows and influences a lot of important people (both animators, executive-types, as well as mainstream Japanese culture figures). He has done a lot of work in mentoring younger animators, both older individuals who are now established in the industry, as well as green upcoming talent.
>>124570426
One Piece, Pretty Cure and Yokai Watch are the kings of merchandising here.
Between Gundam and Evangelion, Gundam have more as well, but Gundam is also a far bigger franchise than Eva.
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>>124570268
>worst genre
>not battle harem
Stay pleb
>>124570615
Battle harem was practically nonexistent back then
>>124570529
>Anno
>politically powerful
Pffhahah
Being Myazaki's bitch is the extent of his power
>>124570647
>90's
>battle harem
>practically non-existent
Why are you talking about shit you know literally nothing about?
>>124570659
He is the Michael to Miyazaki's Vito.
>>124568522
If you're going to bait, go all out
>>124570698
There were like four in that decade, as opposed to four a season now
>>124570827
He is what Lucas is to Spielberg. A dog. Called Indiana.
>>124568522
Anno is literally a hack and he admits himself
He admitted he chose the name Evangelion because it "sounded complicated"
He admitted throwing random christian symbols because it would make it look deep
He's definitely the most adorable
>>124570898
Because it would make it look "cool." There is a difference.
>>124570240
>Gundam
It's basicaly transformers of japan, a toy commercial for manchildren
>>124571127
Even if true, that would have nothing to do with its influence.
>>124570898
There are people want their anime sound like children book and not cool?
>>124570051
I did not explain anything, therefore i did not fail at anything, is useless trying to explain why 3 is bad if you already think is fine, is like trying to reason with a wall or a rock, like i said enjoy yor movie, while being blissfully ignorant of the bigger picture
>>124568606
>>124568522
>>124568574
How about Tomino?
>>124571023
His fucking ears, I swear
>>124570268
Ha ha what an edgy faggot, eva is an anime milestone even if this fact gives you ass pains, your opinion is irrelevant, stay mad edgy-kun
>>124568522
Thats not Oda
>>124571698
aw he's cute
Ikuhara
>>124568993
>muh LOLRANDUM harem anime is the pinnacle of anime
kek
>>124574472
>LOLRANDUM
What
>>124568993
Monogatari is a pinnacle of haremshit and that's it.
>>124574614
Amen
>>124569652
>Cory in the House
>implying King of the Hill isn't the pinnacle of anime
>>124574472
You forgot the SO between your LOLRANDUM man.
>>124568522
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry?
Precure?
Sailor Moon?
Gundam?
Pokemon?
>>124568574
>Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
Gunbuster?
His and her circumstances?
Nadia, the Secret of Blue Water?
Satoshi Kon is my choice. Such a shame he had to die so early.
>make a single successful series
>butcher it by making new movies
Anno is the George Lucas of anime.My vote goes to Ikuhara or Yuasa.
>>124571269
>Tomino
>talented
You love to suck Anno's dick. What a bunch of faggots.
>>124571199
Learn English before trying to post
>>124568574
>Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideaki_Anno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRLO-w3nX-4
He's done a lot.
>>124570268
You probably weren't even born then, I was, it was a milestone.
Contrarians are killing /a/
>>124576312
Anno and Lucas have made much more than one successful series, what are you smoking?
I think of Indiana Jones before I think of Star Wars whenever Lucas is mentioned.
>>124570371
Nadia is garbage.
>>124568522
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
Gundam.
>>124577225
>I think of Indiana Jones before I think of Star Wars whenever Lucas is mentioned.
That's because you're retarded.
>>124577421
It's because I saw it first, and prefer it.
>stop liking things i dont like
>>124568522
I see Makoto Shinkai more likely to fill the role of Miyazaki. Shinkai's movies are similar to Miyazaki's because their of their non-otaku nature and 11/10 cinematography.
>>124569351
Yeah and all those shows are garbage compared to Eva. Thanks for showing how much the shit taste of normies matter.
The Rebuild Movies are a complete disaster and an embarrassment to the franchise.
>>124577321
>Nadia is garbage.
Only the island episodes (who were done in korea, iirc) are garbage.
Try and tell me the last 5 episodes (especially the Red Noah vs Neo Nautilus battle) are garbage so I can laugh at your face.
Also Gundam is big only in Japan, and Go nagai's works are actually bigger worldwide. Gudnamfags like you make me sick.
>>124577904
I blame Tsurumaki.
http://4chandata.org/m/The-day-after-Evangelion-a382547
go fucking kill yourself
lol hxh guy is the best idk how you against the grain phaggots cant realize that with your idiocy
>>124577965
>Gundam is big only in Japan
And all of South Asia actually. Its worth more, has a bigger impact on the industry, and occupies a larger niche in both mainstream and pop-culture in Japan then Eva ever will.
Deal with it fag.
>Muh Go Nagai
Go ahead and pull out those numbers for Mazinger or Devil Man, I dare you.
>>124577965
dude, Gundam is super big here (South East Asia), it pretty much overshadow any other robot shows
Just the daily reminder that 3.0 came back to it's roots and you casuals who picked it up with the movies and never watched the series yet wanted to feel cool got assmad because you didn't understand shit.
Kill yourselves
>>124578657
>>124578702
God damn, okay gundamfags, your anime is big in Asia.
I even like Gundam myself (been collecting model kits since the 90s), I just hate pretentious, annoying Gundamfags who are ALWAYS triggered by Evangelion's popularity.
>>124578734
>back to its roots
If by that you mean a poorly done rehash of episode 24 without any of the depth, sure.
>>124568522
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry?
One Piece
>>124578833
Isn't that a manga? If we're including manga, Doraemon fucks anything else in the ass.
>gundam
>>124578779
But i'm an Evafag. I'm just acknowledge the truth that Gundam and it's toy is popular here. Evangelion merchandise is pretty much nonexistant in my country
A nice thread? In /a/? Wow, great really great.
I agree, Anno is a genius in all the sense of the word, say what you want about Eva, but you can't deny it is the most authentic piece of animation ever made.
>>124578878
This. I swear Doreamon is the most popular Japanese shit ever in the Asia. Literally growing up reading it
>>124579176
It's alright, I know Gundam is very big in Asia. My response mas more targeted toward >>124578657 who was being an insufferable cunt about it.
So by ''bigger''. Are we based on the popularity, sale or impact to the industry?
>>124579071
>Average single episode disc sales for 0079 was over 80k.
How much is the Eva franchise worth?
>>124579248
Only cunt here is you.
>>124579622
>Only cunt here is you.
I wasn't being a cunt, I just said I hate Gundamfags like you who are triggered everytime someone mentiones how popular Eva is
>b-b-b-ut Gundam is more popular!
Who the fuck cares, one show is a Real Robots show with many different series, and the other is a sort of tokusatsu/Ultraman parody anime of 26 episodes. That's why I laugh at gundamfags, they always need to get that rivarly thing with Evangelion going on when both franchises are too different.
>>124579248
You wouldn't have Evangelion if not for Gundam, retard.
>>124579738
You suck at baiting dude.
>>124579811
>You wouldn't have Evangelion if not for Gundam, retard.
What elements of Gundam does Evangelion have?
I can see Ideon stuff in Evangelion, but not Gundam.
>>124579862
None. Gundamfags are always desperate to prove their favorite cult mecha animu is better than Evanjellyon. It's a sort of trauma they have.
>>124579862
What archtype is Shinji based off as a character? Show me the type that existed before Amuro in the 70s.
Oh wait.
You can't.
>>124579862
Anno's biggest inspirations are Yamato and 0079.
>>124580306
I'm pretty sure it's Ideon and Devilman.
>>124580406
He's said 0079 as well.
>>124581166
And Yamato. Somebody dig up that interview.
Akira Toriama
>>124570156
Bake alone did not sell more than Gundam Seed I can promise you that. More made up 4chan stuff.
>>124581509
>Bake alone did not sell more than Gundam Seed
Have you ever even seen the top sales chart before?
>>124571227
what bigger picture?
>>124581509
It's not completely made up, just misunderstood. Bake AVERAGED more. It did not gross more.
>>124581608
Do you understand the difference between average and gross?
>>124581448
yes the guy thats show is exactly
bad guy shows up kicks good guys ass, good guy trains, kicks bad guys ass, rinse repeat endlessly, is talented lol.
i say this as a fan of dbz, seriously COME ON DUDE!!!
>>124568522
Satoshi Kon
Ryutaro Nakamura
Nujabes
>>124569319
yes because, the rebuilds have terrible acting, characterization, special effects, oh wait they have none of that you god damn fucking faggot.
asuka and ritsuko got less back ground than they did in nge, but they still are far from being horrible characters the way everyone in the prequels where other than dooku.
>>124581788
>Ryutaro Nakamura
They announced his death nearly a month after it happened jesus christ
>>124577688
>Gundam is garbage compared to Eva.
I know that this is a bait thread but that's taking it too far.
>>124577321
gundam is bigger in that there is alot more of it and its older, but eva has much more influence, aclaim, depth and mythos.
>>124581788
>Nujabes
lmao
>>124581876
Speak English.
How can the best girl ever be an awful character?
>>124568522
>anything bigger than evangelion
Naruto, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Sword Art Online, any Mizayaki's work, Death Note, Haruhi, Gundam and Cowboy Bebop.
>>124581696
It's significantly easier to average higher (and it's not by much either with the first volume also edging Bakes and cutting into 6 digits) with 6-7 volumes than than with 20 so I don't really compare them in terms of averages or frankly at all but since people want to go down that road. Last I checked Gundam Seed Destiny wasn't dropping off into the sub 30K regions by the time the Seed Franchise proper 25th disc is out either. Chris the way they're doing Monogatari I half expect it to be in the 20-25K region by the time all is said and done and then Shaft is really fucked.
>>124581899
And Kon didn't even announce he was sick. Anime directors, man.
Satoshi Kon
>>124568522
>lead the anime industry
What does that even mean?
>>124581979
>any Miyazaki's work
Porco Rosso is in no way bigger than Evangelion.
>>124581941
storywise and characterization wise it is, animation wise, its superior in areas.
like i just recently tried to watch gungam wing, i HATE asuka, but i would take watching her any day compared to watching that vapid damsel in distress, depthless, characterless main female character in wing. OMFG
>>124582076
>i HATE asuka
Why?
>>124581968
>How can the best girl ever be an awful character?
best girl ever? padme? wat?
>>124582076
Is it summer already /a/?
There is no sane person on this world that would tell you Gundam is worse than Eva in any measure.Learn to format your posts.
>>124581982
Monogatari continues to print money, anon.
>>124582110
bully, sadist, irrational hate towards shinji who did litterally nothing against her until the hospital scene.
>>124581950
>>124582178
>There is no sane person on this world that would tell you Gundam is worse than Eva in any measure.
There's no sane person who would bother directly comparing them, more like.
>>124582178
>There is no sane person on this world that would tell you Gundam is worse than Eva in any measure.
ALL of the females in nge have more depth and background than then one in gundam wing, I FUCKING DEFY YOU, that is a fact mother fucker!
>>124582197
>sadist
Are you this fucking stupid? Stick to Gaia.
>>124582197
>i dont like her because she isn't a moestick like Karen!
pls go, Rei/Yui and Kaworu are more sadistic, SEELE is more sadistic, even Kaji is more sadistic.
>>124581950
>but eva has much more influence
That kind of argument doesn't hold when Eva was influenced by 0079 (along with other Tomino works like Ideon). Evangelion, while being incredibly well received, also did not create a new genre while 0079 pioneered RR as we know it.
That said, it's not like I think Tomino is the biggest name in the industry either.
>>124582236I never said I'm sane.
But this thread was about the bigger franchise and Gundam is miles ahead of Eva in terms of franchise popularity and influence on anime over the years.
>>124582253
But anon, female characters in anime spoil it.I wish there were no females in anime ever.
>>124582346
Isn't that the message of Eva though? That when people are facing danger they show their true sadistic and survivalist natures. You can't blame any NGE character for being what they are.
>>124582253
>wing
Why are people using wing as a comparison?
>>124582282
sadism = enjoying causing others pain
she enjoyed tormenting shinji, hence sadism, hence sadist.
>>124582347
> it's not like I think Tomino is the biggest name in the industry either
Whom do you think is bigger (living, I mean)?
>>124582462
>tumblr
>>124582462
>Unironically linking to tumblr.
Please go and stay go.
>>124582462
This is bait, right?
>>124582036
It physically pains me to know that he is literally dead forever.
>>124582346
>>i dont like her because she isn't a moestick like Karen!
who the fuck is karen?
>>124582506
She didn't really enjoy it much.
>>124570051
Not even that other guy but if you can't see what's wrong with 3 you might be retarded. It was just characters acting dumb and doing retarded stuff for the sake of pushing the plot along in a very specific, contrived, and otherwise unlikely direction
Misato: HURRR SHINJI YOU CAUSED THIRD IMPACT BUT I WON'T TELL YOU OR EXPLAIN ANYTHING I'LL JUST YELL AND BE MAD FOR SEEMINGLY NO REASON DURRR
>>124582461
its the only gundam i have seen, and from what i know is the most popular.
>>124571269
Doesn't put himself or his disciples (Nagano and Imagawa) on a pedestal above all criticism like how Miyazaki did with himself and Anno.
>>124582430
No, it's about being a person who wants to be social, normal, and loved, but can't.
This applies to people who deserve it, e.g. otakus; and people who don't deserve it, e.g. kids trained to be private military drones.
>>124582506
She hated it.
>>124582567
Karen Kujou
>>124582209
gundam is just bad, I watched the UC timeline and never took off.
>>124582461
Because it's the only way he can win his "argument"
>>124582510
Nobody, at least not now.
Maybe in the 80s you could have argued it was Tomino and Anno in the 90s when the number of anime airing per year was far fewer. But the 2010s just lacks the unexplored territory of either of those ages.
>>124582621
Please, never come back. Every post you make is trash.
Anno is a meme director
>>124582197
>irrational hate towards shinji
Asuka is more annoyed/frustrated with Shinji than hateful
>>124582567
I think he means the KinMoza Karen?
>>124582704
You'd probably have to say Shinbo if you said anyone, just going by success.
>>124582621
>its the only gundam i have seen
Then stop trying to make generalizations about the metafranchise which you don't know anything about.
>from what i know is the most popular.
Also wrong, the only people I can imagine believing this are kids who grew up watching it on toonami.
To have your opinions be taken seriously in Eva threads you must read or watch the following:
-Devilman
-Ultraman
-Ideon
-Skull Killer Jakioh
Everything else means you're an annoying weeb
>>124582621
> from what i know is the most popular
Not unless you mean "most popular in nineties America".
>>124582577
then why fucking do it?>>124582585
>Misato: HURRR SHINJI YOU CAUSED THIRD IMPACT BUT I WON'T TELL YOU OR EXPLAIN ANYTHING I'LL JUST YELL AND BE MAD FOR SEEMINGLY NO REASON DURRR
14 years of war and misery is not a good reason ok. not want to completely break him as a human being by telling him the truth is not a good reason. ok bro.
>>124582236
>would bother directly comparing them
Don't know man Amuro in 0079 and Shinji are pretty comparable.
>>124582837
Devilman is the single most overrated thing on /a/.
>>124582771
You sure are fucking retarded.
>>124582708
which one is the most popular then???
>>124582756
>Shinbo
Well the biggest title this decade he has under his belt is Madoka, only a lot of people seem to credit Urobuchi equally if not even more than Shinbo sometimes for that.
Regardless, a lot of Madoka's subject matter is derivative from a ton of older sources. That's not a bad thing either. It just lacks the punch of being novel.
>>124582856
The problem is that not telling Shinji what happened is contrary to Misato's goals. There's far more risk of him running or attempting to escape if he's confused and angry than if he's in the loop and incredibly depressed because of what happened. Misato should know this too.
>>124582902
for using a site with shit tons of art and images to find images? no your mixing up logical with retarded.
What would happen if George Lucas was the director of the last rebuild movie?
>>124582892
That's irrelevant, Anno straight up admitted in an interview he based eva's ending and kaworu's character off the Devilman manga. Besides, Devilman is far from bad anyway, regardless of whether it's overrated or not
>>124568522
>Anno
>most talented
>anything bigger than eva
The bait prices must have dropped again cause you're practically giving it for free.
but as a matter of fact there's tons of things bigger than eva. gundam, most famous shonen such as Naruto, Bleach and OP, FMA, Shingeki, probably Monogatari, etc... .
And not only more famous, some of those are better without the need to appear overly deep and meaningful.
What really gets me is how there are people here who genuinely believe eva is a milestone, a masterpiece, and that Anno is great. it's like they haven't even watched it at all.
>>124582948
Discounting Monogatari seems like a technicality.
>>124582253
Nigger stop being an ignorant shit.
>>124583088
Fuck off.
>>124583011
Just quit while you're behind.
why are you guys deleteing the images or video with the eva praise? that shit was not fake this one was on the official original English trailer for eoe
>>124583088
>FMA, Shingeki, probably Monogatari
>probably
You have no fucking idea what you're saying.
>>124582682
Nice shit taste, now lets observe how Gundam created a sub-genre in mecha for real type robots and the amount of clones and knock-offs inspired by it.
Which includes Eva existing thanks to a combined influence from Yamato, 0079, and Ideon.
>>124583162
no reason to quite, you have not offered a single shred of evidence that anything i have said is retarted. not one single thing, you are the one behind throwing baseless cowardly insults instead of giving proof of your point of view.
>>124583263
>>124583088
Contrarians need to leave.
>>124583296
so your laughing at me having facts that your impotent ass can not disprove? lol.
>>124583381
>facts
>>124582909
Leave now, you fucking faggot.
>>124583411
i defy you to show me when gundam got praise better than thoose eva praise examples, come on prove me wrong if your laughing is so fucking righteous.
>>124583508
>>124583508
>implying anyone cares about that praise
>>124583423
so like i have been saying, cowards refusing to prove there points because they are not capable of doing so because they are as fucking wrong as shit.
>>124583552
you should if you want to prove gundam has gotten more critical praise and acclaim than nge which is the entire point of this fucking argument.
>>124583508
>>124583560
>>124583615
Go back to tumblr, homo.
>>124583615
No, the point is which is "bigger," not which got more praise from shitty magazines.
