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>character finally gets her episode then dies
Am I supposed to care about this?
>>124235085
You probably would have if you read the VN.
>>124235143
Even if he read the VN he shouldn't care much. There's very little reason to be emotionally attached to Illya at that point in F/SN
>>124235085
It's terribly done.
>>124235143
Even in the VN it's rather poorly done. She is barely a character in UBW.
>>124235201
>Implying that you don't fall in love with best loli at first look
She died in the movie. People cry bitch tears again after this. Figures. You fucking fags need to man up.
>>124235262
After you, Tough Guy-san.
Quit yer cryin'.
>>124235085
You would have if you watched prisma ilya.
How about spoilering your shit you stupid faggot?
You shouldn't. Only pedos care that their fuckdoll died.
Friendly reminder that Fate and UBW are just supplemental to HF
Is she supposed to be older than Shirou? If so than why does she look 11?
>>124235085
It's a shallow underdeveloped character. The death is suposed to make you feel sad with how overblown amd overdramatic it is which is just piss poor writing. I haven't read the VN but it seems like Gil did it for a reason though so it has some plot relevancy at least.
>>124235085
As much as I regret giving you this advice, read the VN.
Illya isn't my favorite character but I teared up like a bitch. This was a fucking sad scene. I honestly don't care what all you "tough guy" faggots say because I know you cried like a bitch as well assuming you have the proper background with Illya to understand the scene.
I cared only because of Fate/Kaleid Liner. I disliked her in the VN, got a bad end because I tried being nice to her.
I see that secondary fags are as cancerous as ever.
>caring about fateshit that isn't Kaleid Liner
2 more months.
>>124236243
>implying primaryfags are any better
Nasu's a hack and is only popular because of waifus.
>>124235085
This. This shit is worse than Akame ga kill.
>>124236374
0/10
>>124236118
because she isn't actually human
>>124236273
>secondary misusing the term "waifu".
>>124236401
Yeah sure this has more budget but AgK had a better story.
In the VN, the three routes have an enforced playing order. Ilya gets plenty fleshed out in Fate, whereas her development in UBW is minimal. Since it's not actually possible to read UBW without going through Fate first, the reader should already have an attachment to Ilya by the time she's killed in UBW.
That is, admittedly, the biggest flaw to animating Unlimited Blade Works without animation Fate first. Then again, DEEN already did that so maybe that's what they were expecting.
>>124236404
I thought she was half-human at least.
>>124236433
Nips got Fate route for free on mobile. They expect you to have read it.
>>124236058
>>124236432
Oh come on, you can do better than that.
>>124236432
>AgK had a better story
Look they're both trash but AgK is a 1/10 while F/SN is a 3~4/10.
>>124236273
>Nasu's a hack and is only popular because of waifus.
Well, I don't know about that second part. I think that there are a lot of autism related reasons why people like Nasu.
However you are overall right. Nasu is a huge fucking hack. A rich fucking hack.
>>124236433
Honestly, Fate/stay night really isn't the most ideal story to adapt.
Heaven's Feel, of course, has it the worst. The route requires for you to have a deep understanding of the characters and the Holy Grail War in general from the prior routes. It requires for you to understand Shirou's distortion, Archer's identity and Rin's general personality and lifestyle. It has a lot of unanswered questions because those questions were already long since answered in prior routes. Several characters who were really important in prior routes are killed off without much flare.
I really don't know how UFOtable's gonna make it work, and with a movie of all things.
>>124236512
Still not as rich as that hack called Toriyama but maybe that's because Nasu is even more of a hack than Toriyama.
>>124236619
You really don't need to have a deep understanding of anything to understand Heaven's Feel because it isn't that complicated at all. Nasu just need to be better at storytelling than relying on people to read everything else.
>>124236629
In terms of writing Hariyama is pretty close to bottom, Nasu at least the decency to come up with a tad of complexity in his work.
>>124236707
For fuck's sake. Toriyama.
>>124236629
At least Nasu remembers the contents in his own work.
>>124235085
Your supposed to have context on Ilya's character from Fate route already. UBW is 2nd route. Do you think people saying to read the fucking VN is a meme or something?
Even then, ufotable added way more than enough material in this episode for you to get to know her and at least sympathize with some of her situation. And then when they adapt HF, this scene isn't going to be going away and you'll have even more information about her to draw from.
>father betrayed the family
>mother is spooky ghost
>grandpa doesn't give a fuck about you
>other homunculus are thrown away like stale milk
>has painful procedures performed on her body for magic purposes
>thrown to the wolves (literally)
You can skip the VN and be a lazy faggot. But do not make these retarded threads when you don't understand things.
>>124236692
It is.
It's a little hard to imagine since pretty much everyone who's played through Heaven's Feel have already played through Fate and UBW first, but Shirou's distortion isn't really gone into in great detail in that route. Shirou supposedly loses "everything" in Heaven's Feel. By choosing to save Sakura over becoming a hero, he pretty much breaks the very foundations of who he is and what he's living for. It's supposed to be a nearly soul-shattering decision for him. But without being exposed to Shirou's distortion in full from the other two routes, it's hard to really comprehend why it's such a difficult decision for him.
>>124236619
The movie is not going to be stand alone people are going to use UBW and Zero as base.
>>124236456
she's sub human
>>124236795
Also, Heaven's Feel doesn't explain Archer's identity at all. On its own, it basically leaves the reader to guess why Shirou is able to use Archer's arm or why he can access Archer's Reality Marble. Even if you do figure it out on your own, you're left wondering how it even happened in the first place, since Heaven's Feel doesn't explain the mechanics of Servants or the Throne of Heroes at all.
Like I said, Heaven's Feel leaves a shitload of unanswered question because most of those questions are already answered in prior routes.
>>124236795
"Shirou's distortion" is a weird fucking phrase.
>>124236795
It's actually isn't that hard to show Shirou's so called distortion in a shorter amount of time and do it better than Nasu already did. But that need Nasu to care about it and actually know what he's doing rather than just adding nonsense so that he can justify on what he's doing.
>>124236058
Friendly reminder that Sakura is the worst of the girls and the least popular.
>>124236908
It kinda is. Shirou's distortion is a threefold issue.
1) He regards others as more important than himself.
2) He is incapable of living for his own sake.
3) He is wholly devoted to a borrowed, impossible ideal.
Heaven's Feel doesn't really show much of 1) or 2) and 3) isn't gone into at all.
The entire deal with Shirou is that he's a fundamentally broken human being, a machine pretending to be human. The only reason he's been able to move forward is by borrowing Kiritsugu's ideal and turning it into his sole function. His issue was hinted at in the Fate route and it was shown in full in Unlimited Blade Works, through his words, thoughts and actions. In Heaven's Feel, you barely get to see any of it.
>>124237115
Well that's an exciting bunch of garbage analysis.
>muh fundamentally broken human being
>muh machine pretending to be human
Nasu is just shit at telling stories and his fans have to make up for his shortcomings.
>>124237228
That or you just have shit reading comprehension.
It's okay, anon. Not all humans are born equal. You're just a little bit special compared to others, that's all.
>>124235085
B-But Berserker was supposed to be the strongest...
Why is Gil such a smug faggot?
WHY DIDN'T SHIROU STOP THIS?
>>124237228
What? The whole point of his character was that who he was died in the fire and was tempered as a sword. That's why all he does is make swords, that's why it's his origin.
>>124237115
Because in Heavens Feel he throws away that ideal for something he decided on his own. It's real irony that at the end of it he either ends up dead or in a fake body, but no matter which ending he's arguably the most human he's ever been because of his decision.
>>124235085
what happened to berserker being immortal
>>124237334
Not really.
He just focuses his attention from "I want to save everyone" to "I want to save Sakura". What he does hasn't actually changed. He just shifts priorities.
>>124237115
And that's why it can be explained without seeing the other route. You just need to add scenes to show about this. Nasu failing to even do that shows how incompetent he is.
>>124237277
But Goku is the strongest.
>>124237484
Are you trying to be dumb? Nasu expected you to have read the other routes you fucking dumbass, he didn't have to add anything.
>>124237426
Except saving Sakura means letting a bunch of people die and forgiving someone who killed a bunch of people for no reason. But saving someone is the same thing no matter the circumstances around it right?
>>124237562
>>124237484
It was all part of one novel. What exactly are you trying to get at here?
>>124237484
It's more like he didn't wanna retread on prior routes. We already know what Shirou's problems are. We don't need a refresher course.
For Fate, Nasu seems to have taken what he learned from Tsukihime and fixed a lot of issues. Half of Ciel's route was basically a retread of Arcueid's. A lot of the routes shared common events marked by only minor or unnecessary changes between each.
In comparison, Fate minimizes redundant information. Most of the stuff we learn in Fate route isn't repeated significantly in UBW. Heaven's Feel assumes you've already gone through the other two routes so it doesn't go too deeply into them since we already have that information embedded in our heads. We don't need a refresher course for who Archer is or how his Reality Marble works, so the route doesn't explain those things. We don't need to know the identity of Saber's Noble Phantasm, so it has no need to explain any of that either. We already know who Gilgamesh and Caster are, so we don't need any extra information concerning those two before they die.
>>124237612
Well to be fair FSN is a very low power setting
>I-It's sad because it happened to a cute girl who did nothing wrong!
>>124237612
But what about Accelerator? Could he not just vector that shit?Accelerator as Berserker-class
>>124237562
Superman is most OP unless Fate cast suddenly start getting them made up green rocks or shooting lzur beams which only temporarily knock him out in some cannons.
Superman is the worst super hero.
>>124237730
Do we need to bring out the Demonbane image?
>>124237730
SSJGSSJ Goku can wreck Supershit.
>>124237763
Doesn't discount he's the most OP and an awful superhero.
Sups would make an awful servant to be around.
>>124237786
He can knock him out, not arguing that, but he couldn't actually kill him off for good.
Too much regen, general invincibility bullshit.
So Heracles wasn't invulnerable to Gilgamesh's extra shiny weapons?
>>124237810
I dunno. I'd say Wonder Woman is worse, if only because most writers seem to have no idea what to do with her. The only reason she continues to exist is because she's an iconic character and DC's in dire need of a prominent heroine, but the character is pretty much completely incapable of standing on her own and you really get feeling that most writers just really struggle with her.
>>124237865
>>124237865
>couldn't actually kill him off for good.
Then he goes SSJ2GSSJ2, then it's over.
>>124236619
>understand rin's personality
you don't even have to know anything about fate to know that she's the most generic tsundere out there
>>124237884
I think if you're throwing literally every legendary weapon in history, you're eventually going to find something that does that job, and he only has so many lives.
>>124237889
I think Wonder woman still has potential. I don't remember exactly which one it was, but she was pretty useful and qt in one of the Justice League cartoons.
>>124237967
Shit bait, try harder.
>>124237651
I'm talking about the anime because the post I replied to says how are Ufotable going to do this. They could just add scenes that can explain on most of what's going on. They shouldn't have to read the LN or the prior story before this.
>No heart surgery
Droppeduntil next week.
>>124238218
Heaven's Feel doesn't really get that many opportunities to show off how broken Shirou is. I mean, it's not like any non-Servants die in front of him. Ironically, for a route where Shirou struggles with his ideals more than any other, Shirou actually meets LESS external resistance than in the other two routes. The one exception, of course, is Saber, whom Shirou has to kill in order to save Sakura.
>>124238218
I am pretty sure the HF adaptation is going to not be stand alone in any form.
>>124238218
>They shouldn't have to read the LN or the prior story before this.
Fuck off for advocating secondaries.
>caring about any iteration of illya that isn't prisma
>>124238344
>butthurt retard who wasted their already worthless time playing a shitty eroge
The etymology of "Secondaries" comes from the superior ability of these individuals to delay gratification, and thus receive two marshmallows. This ability highly correlates with success, education, health and weight control. In this context, it refers to their ability to wait for a superior release in a superior medium (anime).
>In these studies, a child was offered a choice between one small reward provided immediately or two small rewards if they waited for a short period: approximately 15 minutes, during which the tester leave the room and then return. (The reward was sometimes a marshmallow, but often a cookie or a pretzel.) In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able to wait longer for the preferred rewards tended to have better life outcomes, as measured by SAT scores,[2] educational attainment,[3] body mass index (BMI),[4] and other life measures.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment
It is not surprising at all that bitter "primaries" who are often unintelligent, overweight, and unsuccessful at life, would attempt to turn it into a pejorative.
>>124238539
>this generic copypasta again
>>124238539
I love this pasta
>>124238684
>generic copypasta
And what's a non-generic copypasta in your opinion?
How is Gil and Kirei alive in Fate/hollow ataraxia if they died in Fate/Stay Night?
>>124238733
Ones that are shifted around a bit rather than flat ctrl+v'd. Add some spice.
Like that Madara Uchiha powerlevel copypasta that went through so many iterations.
>>124238767It's a dream.Also, Kirei isn't alive in Hollow.
>>124238806
>rather than flat ctrl+v'd
You do realize that is the literal definition of copypasta right?
>>124238861Do they explain how Gil is alive then in the dream? Also did Shirou kill him in UBW or did the grail absorb Gil after he gets his arm cut off?
>>124238981
I'm sure someone can explain this better but basically, Rin did a thing with the gem sword, and because of that anybody who can possibly survive the grail war in an alternate timeline is around. Kirei for example doesn't show up because he dies in every timeline.
>>124238920
You can toy with them a bit after pasting, Anonymous. The site doesn't force you to submit instantly when it detects a paste.
>>124239093
There is no timeline in which the 5th Grail War happens and Kirei Kotomine is alive. They are mutually exclusive, and this cannot be changed no matter what you do. Zeltrech could spend billions of years in subjective time checking different parallel worlds, but he won't find one with the 5th War and Kirei alive.
>>124235085
She's a cute girl so the average anime viewer will care.
>>124235085
You wouldn't give a shit if it was a grown man like Shirou
Knowing Nasu, she was a little girl purely for this scene
Question: Why isn't there a webm ready yet with Doctor Gil doing heart surgery?
>>124239704
I would give more shit if it was a grandpa getting killed because he was defending his grandchildren.
Haven't been watching because I'm waiting for it to end for a marathon but holy shit. It's "you're strong, Berserker" already?
I don't think I can handle that scene animated.The UBW movie doesn't count, they did a terrible job.
>>124239721
Because there was none in ufotables version.
>>124235085
How would a UTW parody work?
>I am the imouto of my brother...
I'm not the best when it comes to writing poems.
>>124239794
I braced myself for an entire week
I wasn't fucking ready, you probably won't be ready either
>>124239721
Next week.
why no heart surgery though?
>>124239986
Because the episode ends with Illyasviel dying.
The heart surgery takes place immediately after that, so start of the next episode.
>>124239986
Because they wanted to break our hearts this week.
Next week they open up the old wound and remove it.
>>124235085
why was there a need to cut her eyes out?
>>124240031
ufotable already cut some of the ilya gore with her eyes being cut. Heart surgery will be BD only
>>124240048
>>124240031
I hope these guys are right and not >>124240056
>>124240089
Go read ufo twitter.
They cut some stuff and barely made tv regulation with this episode. Pictured is Ilya's corpse.
People at the pre screening said there was better angles on Ilyas eyes being cut that were removed.
No way surgery is getting in tv broadcast
>>124240051
for le edgy
>>124235201
>>124235223
You are forced to play through Fate first in the VN.
That is 7 in-game days of having Illya board over at Emiya's for cooking SOL.
Anyone would have gotten emotionally attached after being forcefed 4 hours worth of loli oniichan~ text.
That you don't even know this means you didn't read the VN.
>>124236058
This is true, and HF is definitely the best route, but it doesn't change the fact Sakura is the least compelling heroine and is only really interesting because of how shockingly shit her life is.
Her actual role and personality in the route is essentially to just be a doe eyed victim that gets violated and tortured over and over again for the sake of the audiences' amusement. Just about the only depth to her as a character beyond this is her dark and selfish urges to cripple Shirou to get him out of the war.
That said, if she handled all the cards Nasu dealt to her with some level of character she'd have probably been the most interesting heroine.
>>124235085
Brutality or fatality?
>>124236058
Friendly reminder Sakura's the least popular heroine in UBW and behind a few male characters. Also, you're trying too hard. They're all their own stories. And if you really want to be bitchy about it, Nasu and friends said multiple times that the story of FSN was always meant to be about Saber. And Saber has a full route. And End of the Dream is all Saber, and the last ending you unlock in the VN.
All the routes stand on their own. Each having exposition that is fully explained in HF doesn't make them supplementary material. Sasuga Sakurafags. Nobody cares about your wormslut. Illya actually being the heroine of the route was what made it palpable. She had far more screen time and just as much relevance as Sakura.
>>124235085
Nobody judging the show on its own merits gives a shit about her death.
>>124237810
>>124237889
All that shit taste.
>>124237228
I'm really getting tired of the "Nasu is a shit writer" meme. If you take the entire internet at face value, every writer who ever lived has been condemned as shit at one point in time. How is anyone supposed to take that blanket criticism seriously?
>>124238767
>>124238861
>>124238981
>>124239093
Kirei is dead, that's why Caren's able to sneak in Bazett's dream. Extra irony points that she's his daughter
In the "real" world (the one we see in the epilogue, when bazett visits the actual emiya household) it looks like things are pretty much similar to how it was depicted in the dreams, and the prologue with everyone swapping ghost stories seem to have actually happened in the real world too. Presumably this means Rin's little dimension accident actually happens, and the "default" state of the Fate-verse is basically what is depicted in F/ha, except with probably less sex and silly antics
part of what they repeatedly emphasize in the VN is that while what is depicted doesn't actually happen, Avenger doesn't "fake" any of the events - in the same situation, Shirou and the rest of the cast would have ended up in the same situation. That's how Avenger-Shirou mananages to meet up with Caren after all
>>124235143
Why would you watch this shit if you already played the VN
>>124235085
The direction of this episode was crap.
How could you not care?
I legit had tears, man. Not even lying.
You either have no history with the character or you're just an autist with no empathy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
>>124242621
He was really fucking shit when he wrote FSN at least.
It's hard to care about a writer who barely had any idea how to write.
He got better recently sure but we are talking about FSN here
>>124242722
ur face is crap
>>124240860
>Sakura's the least popular heroine in UBW
Probably because she does fuck all in the plot until HF other than get raped.
>>124240537
I mean, you care a little, but that much?
At this point in *my* life it made me sad because I've seen and played everything Fate. I've spent so much time with her that watching her suffer like that actually hurt.
The scene here is so good because ufotable too strong, not because of the actual source material.
>>124243085
ufodicksucker pls
In UBW Gil knew he was fucking heracles so he knew he had to take things seriously. In Zero he was playing around with mad barking dog.
Also Lancelot had better stats for a berzerk class, the ability to throw back weapons becomes much more useful against somebody like Gil.
If Gil had decided to use those chains on lancelot it would had ended pretty fast.
Heracles had a huge handicap, his master was right there, and they had a deeper relationship compared to other sane servants & masters. Lancelot would care less if his master was hurt.
>>124243213
>im super edgy and cool cuz i dont like the thing everybody else likes
>guys look at how cool i am
>guys
>guys pls
>>124240537
Fate made me dislike Ilya, she was an annoying spoiled cunt. She shines in HF, but she's still not that likable to me.
>>124243242
And yet he still didn't take things seriously.
If Shirou can knock off three lives in one go Gil can do better than that. He only loses because he's a cocky idiot.
>>124243242
>Lancelot would care less if his master was hurt.
I don't think a Berserker can stick around for very long at all after their master dies, so I doubt he wouldn't care. At least up until the point where he could punish his kingu.
>>124243242
A faggot like Lancelot doesn't deserve a serious fight.
>>124243269
>im super edgy and cool cuz i like the thing everybody else likes
>guys look at how cool i am
>guys
>guys pls
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.49_[2015.04.18_16.10.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gKTWTj3.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.49_[2015.04.18_16.10.19].jpg")
>>124235085
>not caring about dat ass
Forced drama crap.
>>124243341
Gawain pls
>>124243432
That scenery, those camera angles.
I just wish the character designs were better.
>>124243432
Tohsakas hair just does not make sense to me
>>124243399
Any kind of drama is forced to you faggots.
Fuck off with your buzzword and go back to watching CGDCT SOL if you want no drama
>>124243478
Monkey wants her bananas again?
>>124243510
Not all of it, but this was 24 minutes of "Are you sad yet? Are you sad yet?"
>>124236942
>>124240860
>>124243037
At least she's more popular than Rin.
>inb4 that one rinfag crying that it doesnt count
>>124235085
An inherent flaw of pretty much every F/SN adaption is that each of the animated routes don't really work standalone. The routes kinda rely on each other, including some bad end routes so you have a big picture. A lot of the character drama relies on you knowing the big picture, otherwise you just wonder why you should give a fuck about this or that side event. As such, the adaptions serve mostly just as fan service for established VN fans who know beforehand why they should give a fuck about someone like Ilya. Without previously established bonds from earlier routes, it ends up being somewhat jarring to watch UBW. "Oh look, the loli who attacked Shirou and Rin in cour 1 finally gets involved. Oh, she got some some sad backstory apparently. Oh, now she's dead. Oh, well, she just served to job. I guess the blonde dude is where it's at. I wonder if she was important. Oh well, moving on I guess."
>>124243383
UNF
>>124240860
>End of the Dream is all Saber, and the last ending you unlock in the VN.
>citing RN stuff
About as canon as Sakura being a virgin.
There's really not much they could do to amend that. While cramming most of a character background in their last episode is overdone and emotionally manipulative her history would feel out of place in the other episodes.
In UBW lllya is secluded on the Einzbern fortress after the events of the first day, fleshing her out on random episodes would take away from the main events and fuck up pacing considerably.
Furthermore people jumping straight into UBW is rare even among secondaries, Ufotable is tying it to Zero with some nods here and there. It's getting the sequel treatment so most should at least know her superficially through Kerry and Irisviel past.
Boring slow ass shit episode, get on with it already jesus.
>>124243727
The show is written as a sequel to Zero though, so that doesn't really wash.
I mean, she's *in* Zero, and so's her mom. Going in you already know her relationship with Shirou, that's why they've been so explicit about it even though she doesn't' even mention it in the VN until HF.
That's what all the "forced drama" (what the fuck does that even *mean*?) throughout the episode was for. It was filling in the gaps between the two shows.
>>124243727
Finally someone that gets it.
Fucking secondaries.
http://a.pomf.se/lkszoh.webm
>he didn't just make one mega route that answered all the questions
>>124243937
>webm without ilya getting killed in it
THANK YOU
>>124243984
He did, its called 2006 fate/stay night
>>124243984
If TM ever makes an actually new-new large-scale game again I'd imagine Nasu would just do one storyline with minor heroine variations instead of drastically changing the storyline and having to field questions about "what REALLY happened?!" for the rest of his life.
>>124243937
>We will have to see Illya running around happily every Episode now
Someone should make a version of this weeks ending the song was extremly good.
>>124244043
one sec
>they dont even show the eye slashing or the stabbing, it fades to black for a few frames
Really? Fuck this shit, fucking pussies. And people expect the heart surgery? Hahahaha
Will it be on the BDs maybe?
>>124244072
Don't you dare pull a Dr. Gil on me.
>>124244027
Nasu had nothing to do with that.
That was Deen being terrible.
>>124244090
It will. The eye slash was shown in the prescreening
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.14_[2015.04.19_16.19.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AQqC5Xn.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.14_[2015.04.19_16.19.28].jpg")
>>124244090
Japan is so weird.
No blood or gore, but little girl butts are fine.
They're the polar opposite of US TV.
>>124244090
It got a CG in the VN, of course they're obligated to animate it.
But it has no chance to make the TV airing.
>>124244090
The stabbing sound effect was fucking pathetic.
I laughed at it
>>124243593
>At least she's more popular than Rin.
What?
>>124244170
The sex scenes also have CGs in the VN
>>124244157
Don't forget smoking.
>>124244157
I was kinda supprised they showed the wolves trying to eat her.
I love the character interaction here. It adds a lot of depth to otherwise unknown characters. Gil's enkidu. Hercules backstory. Still disappointed they didn't pipe in Berserkers roar directly. Really felt like this was catering to Gilfags more than anything, like Oh look at the brute deflect 4 swords before getting stabbed. It should be 30 or so before he couldn't keep up and he gets stabbed only when hes going to defend Illya.
>>124244157
Based Japan.
>>124236790
Except adaptations are supposed to be able to stand up on their own.
It would be like if Magneto appeared out of nowhere in Avengers 2, made ominous dialogue used his powers but never once get called QS and SW's feature or mention mutants.
>>124244125
>Gilgamesh was sent by the ethereals
It all makes sense now.Not really good lord and I thought Rin was bad.
That sword slash to her eyes was cruel as fuck
>>124243984
Shirou archer plot with Gil trying to fuck Saber and a Rin/Sakura drama? With Ilya getting a good end?
>>124244229
I wonder why they never censored Styl smoking, he's like 13.
>>124244226
The sex scenes also have replacement CGs in the VN.
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.51_[2015.04.19_15.36.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Wh4rbdi.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 15 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.51_[2015.04.19_15.36.34].jpg")
>>124244043
>>124244072
http://a.pomf.se/gqflih.webm
>>124244349
Its called censorship.
>>124244157
It's that way in most places, dumbass. Americans are the ones with their priorities inverted. You can blow someone brains out, saw their arm off and all is fine and dandy, but the moment they show some nudity shit has gone too far. Little Timmy could get traumatized seeing a naked female body
>>124244365
Based
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>>124244365
Dunno why but I was expecting loli.dance there.
Can Shirou drinking tea be a new meme?
>>124244389
Reminds me of a Sopranos clip on youtube. The reason why it was age restricted was because you could see a pair of tits for half a second, not because it had people being shot to death and run over by cars.
>>124244365
Here come the tears again. I didn't know I was such a faggot.
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Liner PRISMA ILYA - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.31_[2013.09.13_21.06.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FU9Qcrv.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Liner PRISMA ILYA - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.31_[2013.09.13_21.06.39].jpg")
My only familiarity with the Fate series is from Kaleid Prisma and Ilya was a cutie in that which made me pick up UBW. After I completed the first season of that I've d/led the Fate Zero series but yet to start it.
Seeing Ilya in pain or suffering or death does irritate me.
I was annoyed that her loli friend Miu doesn't seem to be in the main series.
Hate me for being a secondary and anime only but I really don't care.
I quite like how they showed Berserker getting caught by the chains by having him do some fancy dodging first only to have him caught then thrown down.
>>124244521
This seriously triggers me.
>>124244365
All Kalafina songs all sound the same to me.
>>124235085
no. she's listed as a Supporting character on MAL for a reason.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING MUSIC
This whole episode lost so much impact because it was silent 90% of the time, the sound direction has been fucking horrible the last couple of episodes
>>124244550
They have two songs to me, "slow and sad" and "frantic upbeat".
>>124244529
That webm is missing something.
>>124244201
Ignore it, Sakurafags are so used to abuse they'll blow any small victory out of proportion. He is probably still talking about that april fool's twitter event. Which is pretty flawed because it doesn't account for people who followed everyone regardless of their feeling for said character that just a couple of characters were linked in the main site, the short time span and that t was all determined by the content
>>124244589
>needing music playing in background to pay attention
you might be autistic
>>124244643
You might be retarded.
While I am glad they dedicated an entire episode to this it leaves me wondering what else they're going to give an entire episode. Shirou vs Red man needs to be at least 2. And I am wondering when they will fit in lancer vs caster from the OP in. Will there be Taiga dojos?
>>124244643
No, I really looked forward to this episode, but the pacing was all weird and it felt like they just wanted to spoonfeed Illyas backstory to the scrubs who didn't read the VN.
>>124244655
Don't use your disease as an excuse to lash out against others anonymously via the internet. Get some help friend, it will make your life better.
>>124235085
Can someone post the ending song to this episode?
>>124244544
The look of fear in Gil right before Berserker dies. That was great.
>>124244710
Miura is a fucking hack.
>>124244716
You seriously are retarded if you think music is for "paying attention" and not for atmosphere.
Or just another ufoshitter
>>124244710
Yeah the VN had some great music I wasn't sure what the animation was missing but that must have been it.
>>124236942
Well Ilya died to Gil while Sakura killed Gil, clearly one girl is better than the other.
>>124244725
And completely anime original and out of character.
>>124244626
fixed
>>124235085
Who is the Ilya apologist who wrote this episode? She comes of way to likeable compared to the VN. She is a crazy murderous cunt,not some cute innocent girl.
>>124243341
>>124243439
You know in most source materials the two are friendly rivals. There's one story where Merlyn prophecies that a certain sword is cursed to kill the man the wielder loves most, which becomes the sword Lancelot gives Gawaine his fatal wound.
>>124244265
Entirely different things, capeshit doesn't commit to adapting one comic faithfully it gets it material from multiple histories plus new content by subpar scriptwriters. See the DEEN version for reference of shit OC and badly mixed routes
>>124235201
>There's very little reason to be emotionally attached to Illya at that point in F/SN
That's why they put that flashback there. It hits you harder when you finish HF and remember everything Illya related from every route.
For these reasons, Illya is the best Fate.
>>124244784
Nah dude. Enkidu his BFF failed him. That's gotta leave something.
>>124244349
Joke's on them Rin clothes there are what makes me rock hard. I don't even need the sex scene
>>124244773
Do you seriously have nothing better to do then to go from one Fate thread to another and Shitpost?
>>124243271
>not crying like a bitch at this scene
>>124244844
Well think of it to way what if School days had adopted the Harem Route?
>>124244784
Are you fucking retarted? He was about to die of course he would look like that.
>>124244521
If Miyu exists anywhere in this UBW universe (kaleidoscope etc. etc. etc.), she'd have probably been near Shirou on the night of the fire, since they were blood-related.
Which means she's either a) dead in the fire, or b) one of those orphans Gil uses for prana.
>>124244939
I felt bad more for Berserker than I did for Ilya.
>>124244900
>replying to this shitty bait
Move along citizen.
>>124244773
Sakura a shit. A SHIT!
>>124244773
Well, since wormslut killed best boy you have your answer. Illya is superior.
>>124244939
She is a murderous cunt created to be a murderous cunt. There is nothing to be sad about.
>>124244664
Lancer vs Cater is just for the OP, they done something similar with Assassin on the first cour if I'm not mistaken. There's no space for extra stuff that doesn't help moving the plot and fleshing out supporting characters at this point.
>>124244773
And this is why you guys are marginalized. It's not for choosing the least interesting heroine, it's for derailing threads trying to force her into everything
>>124244237
I was kinda surprised that the so called apex of Einzbern magic didn't dispose of the wolves with magic attacks of I'll-fucking-turn-you-into-a-rug.
>>124244773
>Gil attacks cup, cup gets B T F O
>Gil attacks best girl, Gil gets B T F O
Based Sakura.
>>124245158
B-but muh plot progression.
>>124245017
You don't know that going into the VN raw. Hell even F/Z doesn't really dive too deep into Illya or the Eizenbern's history. If she wanted Shirou dead it would've happened when they left the church. Besides all the market place scenes. Maybe I just want a Homunculus daughteru of my own to abandon for some redheaded child I found in the ruins of my greatest achievement.
>>124245131
We cant help it, Sakura is a very polarising character story wise, she is either irrelevant or the main focus, no half measures
>>124244808
>She is a crazy murderous cunt,not some cute innocent girl
She is both
Not the innovent part though since she clearly wants shirous d
>>124244808
You are biased. Sure he is fucked up, but you get a bit of that in the flashbacks. It's all in her upbringing and that is made clear in the VN. The hell did you want anime OC of her torturing people? She only pulls that shit on some scenarios of the Grail War.
>>124237716
Can't vector light beams. Reaction timing alone is impossible.
>>124245043
They did Lancer VS Berserker in the first OP.
They did Saber VS Assassins in Fate/Zero's first OP though.
ufotable loves "battles that never happened" in the OPs.
>>124245298
She is still new to the world around her that is what makes her innocent.
>wanting the D
Where does this occur?
>>124245158
She probably spent most of her mana during the earlier part of the test, and/or linking with Berserker.
>>124245298
>she clearly wants shirous d
No she doesn't
>>124235085
Not really, if you were supposed to care she would have big, fat tits like Sakura.
>>124245403
>>124245158
Wasn't that also part of her survival trial? I doubt her task consisted of just going out for a stroll and enduring the climate
>>124235085
>character is a bitch who tries to dissect the MC in first bad route
who
cares
>>124244125
Bendthatdick Cuminbitch.jpg
>>124245463
Everyone forgets because she's a cute little girl. Cute little girls don't do anything wrong.
>>124244939
so
you're going to follow kiritsugu's path after all
;_;
kowai sou
Gates of Babylon too stronk. Please nerf
>>124245463
Because she's a cute loli. If she looked like Kayneth we'd be laughing our asses off at him waddling around no eyes looking for his servant.
>>124245492
LaughingBernkastel.jpg
Does Gil not have a NP here because he doesn't have a master and a real supply of mana beside children batteries in Kirei's basement?
>>124245324
>The hell did you want anime OC of her torturing people?
I wanted the anime to show more of her being the brutal murderous bitch she is. They where obviously pandering hard to Ilya fans this episode.
>>124245532
Kayneth is also a dick. Illya is just a homicidal loli. There is a huge difference.
>>124245496
>kowai sou
>>124245541
GoB is his Noble Phantasm, and it stores his other NPs inside it.
>>124245541
What do you mean, he was using his NP.
>>124245509
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqZg7cjHN6c
>Gates of Babylon
>too stronk
>>124245605
Then why did he say that the only thing he was missing was a NP?
