ITT shows that tried to be NGE but failed in that they didn't become giant 2deep therapyfag circeljerks and were actually just good. Pic related.
>>124084583
So, shows that are actually better than NGE?
>>124084702
Better unless your criteria for "good" is character studies of unbelievable betafags that take up 50% of the screen time with their angst.
>>124084583
Ah E7 one of my favorites anime, however unlike most E7 fan tards I can admit it's decent but massively overrated.
E7 was great. Genuinely enjoyed and would rewatch many times.
On another note Rinne no Lagrange is a good example too. They tried to be deep but it didn't work, still very fun to watch though.
>>124084583
That's very oddly specific.
I'll play.
>>124084583
It's good, just don't watch the absolutely shitty English dub, otherwise it is complete trash.
>>124084583
E7 wasn't better than average.
>>124084921
I don't think it's massively overrated. Most people will admit it was never a candidate for god-tier anything.
>>124084925
Nice. RnL was really good. MC made me a genkifag.
>>124084949
And yet I think you'll find quite a few examples if you look hard enough.
Like:
>>124084977
Aquarion was pretty much second on my list.
>>124085019
>dub
There's your problem.
>>124084583
E7 wasn't trying to be NGE. Rah Xephon and Brain Powerd were trying to be NGE.
>>124085117
>E7 wasn't trying to be NGE
Wow.
You're a fucking idiot if you think E7 is a NGE clone.
>>124085117
>>124085196
I don't believe it was trying to be NGE (thank fuck) but on the other hand I believe it definitely was influenced by it.
>>124085263
>I believe it definitely was influenced by it.
Sure, no question about that.
>>124085196
It has infinitely more in line with Gundam than NGE.
For fuck's sake, you could make a much stronger argument for Gundam X than NGE.
>>124085263
Almost all mecha since NGE has been influenced by NGE.
>>124085196
It wasn't, it's thematically on the opposite end of the spectrum to NGE. And while there are a few Eva homages, there are way, WAY more Gundam homages in E7 than anything else (the show itself is full of homages to the mecha genre).
Pic related, a show that E7 is trying to ape FAR more than Eva. And even then E7 is a pretty big departure from it.
>>124085213
Failed to be one, thankfully, but please... Eureka and Rei. Instrumentality and fusing with the Coralians. Mechas that are based on mysterious living beings. Etc.
>>124085324
Except Sunrise shit.
>>124085296
As a fan of E7 I still say gundam X was the better version of a mech love story, even with the executive fucked last arc, gundam X is underrated as hell, although I believe if it got a NA release like E7 it'd be just as loved as it is.
>>124085359
>thematically
Full-on evafag detected.
>>124085362
Infected with Code Geass syndrome now.
>>124085360
This.
>>124085371
Watched Gundam X for the first time this month. It wasn't. E7 blows it out on all fronts, and I mean all fronts.
>>124085362
And Kawamori stuff. He's too busy with songs and tormenting green girls to care about Freud or crucifixes.
Yeah, I watched that crap a while back... pic relevant, it was my post about it.
>25 posts
>11 uniques
>>124085360
Don't forget daddy issues. Again, they fortunately failed to take it to even 1/10th the level of evafaggotry.
>>124085360
So by that token Code Geass is a NGE clone because of the Ragnarok plan on Charles's part.
Right. Ok.
>>124085574
I see 12.
>>124085596
Damn I was trying to predict.
>>124085511
The drama really was heavy-handed and made me want to kill something more often than not.
>>124085360
>Eureka and Rei
I mean, maybe in the first few episodes, but about a third of the way through Eureka goes in a direction completely different than Rei. She's not a dandere at all.
>>124084925
Seriously? That show couldn't possible be more generic cute girl mecha.
>>124085554
To be fair, that part was an immense NGE ripoff. They just executed it so shittily that it didn't affect the plot at all.
>>124085596
No you don't. Shut up.;_;
this show was actually rather deep. it is because of it and lain that I ponder(when i'm shitfaced) on whether or not losing all ones memory would be the equivalent of dying
>>124085554
Uh. Whatever you say /a/non.
>>124085542
I was going to avoid comparing Renton to Shinji because nobody compares to that little fuck, but yeah.
>>124085646
>She's not a dandere at all
Right. She's a crydere.
>>124085654
Exactly. One plot element doesn't make a show a NGE ripoff.
I mean you don't even need to look outside of anime produced by BONES to see a NGE ripoff: Raphxenon.
Name a character more annoying than any of Eureka's kids.Protip: you can't.
>>124085468
That's your opinion and I strongly disagree, Garrod was a way better protagonist than renton, he was a teenager done right, he could still be angsty and all "fuck adults" but he didn't go overboard like Renton did a lot. There are some things E7 did better too though I look at it like this: E7 was a romance anime with some mecha action while gundam X was a mecha action anime with romance being a major part of it. Although I still think X was better overall.
>>124085730
The rest of the cast.
E7 is still in my top 10. Always will be.
>>124085718
Why compare them? Renton doesn't go through the hedgehog's dilemma, at all even. Renton's main motivation is "I want to have sex with this green haired girl". Being a troubled youth, doesn't make you a Shinji, Amuro isn't a Shinji. Or more in line with Renton, Garrod doesn't a Shinji.
E7 is great, just make sure you pretend S2 doesn't exist.
>>124085822
What S2?
>>124085809
Fuck off evafag.
>>124085019
I actually liked the dub
>>124085845
Exactly.
>>124085511
While he's exaggerating a bit, he does make some good points.
>>124085762
I found Renton's relationship with Eureka to be much more involved than Garrod's with Tina. Also I would argue that Renton undergoes much more character development as an individual than Garrod does.
>>124085711
I love Zegapain. A clear Sunrise formula show, but a good one.
>>124085822
This is why I now hate the E7 fanbase, E7, which was a better anime, had almost all the same problems Ao had, and was only saved cause it had more episodes to develop the characters so you got attached to them and had a happy ending. Yet they act like E7 was " greatest love story 4ever" and Ao is the only thing that tarnishes it.
>>124085730
That fucking baby nigger holy shit I wanted to kill him and his retarded face.
>>124085931
>I found Renton's relationship with Eureka to be much more involved than Garrod's with Tina
Don't forget shittier and more forced.
>>124085863
0 standards. 0.
>>124086032
I'm not going to pretend E7 was the best love story, or even a great love story; it was just OK. But Ao was just spitting in the face of everything E7 stood for.
>e7 thread
>people don't realize it's more of a coming of age anime than mecha
every single time
EVERY TIME
>>124085931
I agree with you on the relationship part, which is why I said that E7 is a romance anime with some action and X is a action anime with romance, but I felt gundam X did the over all better job even though both had their strong points and weak points.
>>124085762
X is trash, bro.
>>124086124
There's coming-of-age anime that is still shitty coming-of-age anime regardless.
>>124086124
Take whatever lessons you're learning from evafags and shove them up your ass.
inb4 It could have been a ballet.
>>124084977
How did Aquarion tried to be NGE other than a few references to it? NGE was heavily character driven while Aquarion was all about shipping and dogs. Also Aquarion lacks the psychological element NGE has. I don't think this is a good comparison.
>>124085651
Does that make it less fun to watch?
I personally enjoyed it, not everything can be unique. But it had it's moments.
>>124086133
Like E7.
the only good part about Eureka 7 is the original OP, which is one of the greatest of all time.
>>124086215
I'd say E7 is mediocre.
>>124085511
>Military of an entire planet can't hunt down an aircraft
An experimental stealth aircraft. It's also a point in the show that the military is mostly inexperienced and corrupt.
>10 thousand years in the future they use cameras with film
Stoner is an artist, he uses film because he thinks it's more real
>Giant robot that can do blah blah blah
>"Compac drives what are they
The giant robots are built around living creatures designed by the psychic space coral, and the compac drive are designed to interface with that psychic space coral and regulate the flow of trappar which is magic psychic minovsky particles that the coral gives off
>Humans don't know what planet they're on
Yes they do, the rulers of humanity knew where they landed but they didn't tell the public since the planet had been eaten by psychic coral
>Underworld with natural lighting
it's not dirt, it's psychic coral that gives off light
And in the end what happens was a hole to another dimension was carved by the Nirvash (It's explained in show to be designed for this and is based of the same world ending calamity the villain wanted to utilize) The coral is still in the world, the people and coral who were downloaded into the magic psychic network the corals have were uploaded to the other dimension Nirvash found, that way their collective consciousness couldn't accidentally cause a tear in the fabric of space like the Nirvash used to get them to another dimension.
>>124086148
E7 isn't wildly successful as a standalone COA or mecha series, but it's pretty good as a hybrid of both. People hate it way too much, it was wildly praised here when it was airing. It has devalued because of pseudo elitists, toonami (similar to the first), and progression/similarities in even more titles today.
e7 isn't 10/10, but its definitely a very strong series.
>>124086234
You're talking about Cherry Blossom, right? I love that song. Nirgilis is great.
but still
E7 > NGE
>>124086187
>NGE was only important because of the characters and psychology, the plot didn't matter.
>Any anime that has a romance that comes to fruition is shipping.
Evafags get out of my thread. You probably have three of your own in the catalog.
>>124085711
>>124086206
Need to get through my backlog.
>>124084583
Eureka Seven wasn't being Eva
its sequel AO was trying too hard to be Eva.
>>124084977
>>124085066
I'll take you're talking about Genesis and not EVOL because the latter can't be called good by any means.
>>124086252
>it was wildly praised here when it was airing
Like KLK.
And then it developed an insufferably shit fandom, like KLK.
And then it got shat all over because of said shit fandom and also because it was the cool thing to do, like KLK.
>>124086172
I'm sorry you're incapable of looking beyond literal plot elements to read even basic themes. E7 certainly can be very enjoyable purely on it's face, but that doesn't mean there's nothing else there or that acknowledging any thematic elements is falling down a rabbit hole of symbolism and subjective wankery.
>>124086322
Except KLK is objectively shit-tier shit.
>>124086270
>NGE was only important because of the characters and psychology, the plot didn't matter.
That's true, though? The plot was monster-of-the-week bullshit undergirded by some semi-religious nonsense.
>>124086322
KLK was not wildly praised you huge faggot. KLK was clearly being supported (vocal minority) by newshits and had just as much if not more hate. It was blatantly obvious to everyone it was garbage.
Are you baiting or pretending to be new? It was obvious KLK was shit from episode 2.
>>124086310
>I'll take you're talking about Genesis and not EVOL because the latter can't be called good by any means.
I want to say EVOL had a great OST, but didn't Yoko Kanno compose for Genesis too?
>>124086356
No, I'm saying that E7fags are on equal levels of obnoxious.
>>124086341
You're the one who started the wankish argument faggot. Didn't see you responding to anyone that was characterizing it as pure shonen mecha. You came in out of nowhere to drop a blanket hipster
>you faggots don't get the 2deep
turd.
>>124086032
Ao regularly threw shit out the window with the quartz gun and only solved the main issue of Ao wanting to know where his mom was. Every other episode was Ao changing how the world was and forgetting about everything else that had happened, thats why Ao is shit.
>>124086322
>I really like E7 and KLK
>can't talk about either on /a/ without shit flingingBut then again, can't talk about anything on /a/ for too long with shit flinging.
>>124086260
no, Days by FLOW
>>124086354
I repeat: Fuck off evafags. There are threads where you can wallow in the mire of symbolic semen to your hearts' content.
>>124086234
I actually thought all the OP'S and E'S where good, although when it comes to Op 3 the song and choreography were good but the animation was very QUALITY.
>>124086403
You don't even know what e7fags are like probably, the show aired like 9 fucking years ago. Very few of us are left. You are talking to people that saw it on netflix or toonami or some shit that h ave only seen like 10 series total.
Why would anyone care about E7 when xam'd destroyed it completely so quickly after?
>>124086260
CHERRY BLOSSOM CHERRY BLOSSOM
>>124086455
I know that feeling man. As soon as something gets too popular the vocal shits on /a/ refuse to shut up about their hate. I give the Hestia craze six more weeks till everyones saying "I hated that blue stringed bitch before everyone else". The thing about haters is they literally never shut up, as soon as one person says they liked something, four cunts come out of the wood work and start shit flinging.
>>124086270
> NGE was only important because of the characters and psychology, the plot didn't matter.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I said one was more prominent than the other, which is true because NGE focuses more on its characters than the plot.
>Any anime that has a romance that comes to fruition is shipping.
First, NGE doesn't have romance as its central theme, Aquarion does. Second, NGE doesn't have nearly the same shipping faggotry Aquarion does, where they play mix and match with characters despite making any sense or not, like Amata and Mikono.
Aquarion doesn't have any resemblance with NGE outside the whole angels thing and a few references, but putting that aside, it isn't the same thing. In fact, Aquarion characters can only dream of having the same character dept NGE characters have.
>>124086365
Yes.
>>124086455
Why even go on /a/ and expect a competent discussion? Especially for shows that have gotten even a little bit of praise from the general public, i.e NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>124086526
Ouch. X'amd is top-tier but why do they have to fight?
>>124086483
>the mire of symbolic semen
I'm pretty sure this phrase means you were abused as a child by a deconstructionist.
>>124084925
Dropped this because of topknot.
>>124086572
Evafags
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>>124085511
>Giant robot that can do anything depending on what the plot requires
>Eureka spawns random limbs
I see nothing wrong with this
>>124086483
>implying the Eva plot was important at all
You yourself admit that the series that copied its plot avoid the "symbolic bullshit," (character development isn't symbolism, you massive faggot) and that that makes them vastly different. By all means, though, continue shitposting.
>>124086551
Hestia's already got massive amounts of hate.
