What is this shit? Is this some kind of otaku persecution complex self-insertion fantasy? The way everyone decides to hate the protagonist crosses the borderline of comical and dives straight into being just exhausting to read.
>>123612156
Basically
>>123612156
>cant read
You are too late OP
/a/ is over it already
Turns to shit later
>>123612355
What's there to read? Everyone behaves like an eight year old.
>is this light novel otaku self-insert trash like all the others???
Yeah.
>>123612428
What's the new flavor of the month?
>>123612562
Show by rock
moe, furry, CG and "fun" all in one package
>>123612562
The hero that we deserve
>>123613320
>noting personnel kid
>>123613320
Everyone already dropped this
So how many times did this guy attempt to rewrite the end anyways?
>>123612562
Overlord?
>>123612562
I would have said Mushoku Tense I but everyone has gotten bored of that too and the ending was a letdown.
>>123613438
Mushoku Tensei has been going on a lot longer than Shield Hero.
It's also much, much better.
>>123613397
Makes sense after that shitty way of [spolier] killing a qt [/spoiler]
>>123612156
except Shield hero isn't an otaku
hell the other heroes are more otaku
>>123612520
>What's there to read?
The reason why everybody hates the shield hero, for starters...
>>123613424
he only re-wrote it once after his fans sent him death threats
death threats: how Japan does feedback
>>123613518
that's irrelevant
>>123613573
What are these endings like?
>>123613573
I think that's just how the internet in general does feedback.
>>123613576
can't call it an "otaku persecution story" if the one being persecuted isn't an otaku
unless you are saying the otaku are the ones doing the persecuting.
>>123613601
The changed ending was when the author was like "fuck you shield hero" and killed most of the cast ended the world anyway and sent the shield hero back to his world
>>123613638
Sounds like a good ending for once.
It has an anti escapist message too.
>>123613638
Was it only the ending that changed, I thought everything after volume 4 was different.
>>123613658
sounds more like an EoE rip-off
want a good anti-escapist massage, play FFTA
It's a web novel. Why would anyone expect a master piece. Maybe the ln is shit too though i don't know.
i tried reading wordmaster, but i couldn't stand how translations went full on weeaboo in later chapters.
And what is with this stories and fantasy land using rpg system to explain a characters ability? I know some stories are based on being in game, but some aren't or is transitioned to a "real" world. Is it because it makes it easier for the readership to visualize a character via stats?
>>123613614
whether he's an otaku or not is irrelevant to the point. the point being that everyone is against him pretty much just for existing, and no real fault of his own. something a lot of anti-social types can get into because it's their ideal situation.
>everyone is unjustly against me, but i'll show them
not to mention that the one who sparks most of the hate is a cunt whore slut that betrays him when he's been nothing but nice. i don't why it's hard for you to see why otakus would love this
>>123613748
You're like one of them people who find gay subtext in every persecution story.
sometimes a pencil is a pencil.
>>123613706
It's easier for the author to worldbuild.
Because then they don't have to do anything.
>>123613788
what are you even talking about now?
I am going to make my own web novel it will be about autistic kid who write web novels.
nom am sayin?
>>123613865
2meta4m3
>>123613865
You know
I do want Nisio to make a "transported to another world" series.
>>123613910
However?
The most insulting part of Shield Hero is that the other three heroes who are supposed to be MMO enthusiasts have either never heard of tanks or have never learned to appreciate tanks.
>>123614262
Tanks weren't useful or good in their games
>>123614262
Sounds like your average DPShitter.
>>123614335
wrong thread m8
>>123613706
Writers don't need to come up with long winded explanations if the reader is already familiar with the mechanics.
>>123614262
As it later turns out they're not really good at the games they play.
>>123612562
Overlord obviously
though Overlord is a better series
>>123613483
It also isn't over from my understanding. We have one more volume of plot, some slice of life stuff following that, and potentially another series set in the same universe.
>>123616627
The "conclusion chapter" has already been published, anon. The only thing after that according to the author is some SoL chapters covering the ten year period between age 24 ro 34.
So I never really caught on to Shieldbro when it was all the rage on /a/.
Exactly what about the series pulled you guys in, and what about it eventually turn you away?
>>123617553
>Exactly what about the series pulled you guys in
Everybody but the hero is either a blundering manchild or a bitch/whore, and the hero hates everything
>and what about it eventually turn you away?
Everybody but the hero is either a blundering manchild or a bitch/whore, and the hero hates everything
>>123617553
>Exactly what about the series pulled you guys in
The suffering
>and what about it eventually turn you away?
The suffering stopped and it just kinda fell apart
>>123617662
Could you elaborate a bit?
Was it betrayal or NTR or both and then some?
>>123617553
>Exactly what about the series pulled you guys in
The hero seemed like a cool guy at first.
>and what about it eventually turn you away?
I was wrong.
>>123613320
The fuck is this edgyshit?
>>123617553
>Exactly what about the series pulled you guys in
Guy gets summoned to a different world and treated like shit, gets angry and decides that everyone can go fuck themself. He buys loli slave and kills monsters while becoming the happy merchant and playing with a shield that has fun functions.
>and what about it eventually turn you away?
He settles down and plays the sims with a horde of loli slaves while his biggest worry is how to stop them from going after his dick
>>123613431
>>123616044
Overlord you say?
>>123617553
Basically everything up to c100 or so when the queen comes back is great, everything after it is crap.
I need something to scratch my JRPG fantasy story itch after bingeing all the translated chapters of Mushoku Tensei so far, this and Log Horizon were what came to mind when thinking of /a/'s favorite WNs in this genre. Is it worth pulling the trigger?
still waiting for guro doujin of the certain scene
but basically things get dragged too long after Shield Bro build the village
>>123618368
Overlord. Read it.
>>123619580
Thanks, will do. Is it actively translated or starved for translators?
>>123619863
every saturday on the same site which's name i do not remember.
>>123620408
Just look up overlord and sky and you'll find it.
Which was FOTM first, Shieldbro or MT?
>>123620614
The problem with MT is that the TLs have slowed to a crawl.
>>123620738
Who's left translating besides Kaezar? I know Verse quit, and imagelesskink was supposed to be back by now but nobody has heard from him.
>>123618048
Same thing for me. Pretty boring when all MC does is go "lel I have a harem but these girls are my daughters and can only sleep with me in a platonic fashion :^)"
>>123620614
MT was first. Shieldbro started getting translated while the MT threads were at their peak
I'm frankly shocked someone made a thread for this series. Fuck that boring village arc.
/a/ lost interest into it once the translator drama quicked in.
I heard Spear Hero Gaiden is a lot better because of timeloop shenanigans with an insane Japanese Deadpool, how far is it necessary to read before jumping into that? I'm still bogged down in this boring island grinding arc.
>>123621072
>MT threads were at their peak
That was, what, August or September of last year? Feels like yesterday.
>>123621200
>boring island grinding arc
You´re not even in the part everybody complains yet, and that part is drawn out over like 100+ chapters
Do the LNs make the village arc more interesting? They're supposed to have changes/added a lot of stuff.
>>123621694
*complains about yet
>>123612156
Yes
>>123618368
Grimgal.
>>123618368
MT is not patterned on a JRPG.
>>123613483
>much, much better
Mushoku Tensei is even more wish fulfillment tier bullshit than Shield Hero. "I was a fat otaku scum but when I heroically sacrificed myself to save a child, I was reborn as a baby in a rad RPG world with a chance to redo my life and fuck all the cute girls and also I'm the best mage that ever existed and I learn a legendary sword style from a master and I become the best swordsman who ever lived and did I mention all the girls want to fuck me?"
Literally the plot of an erotic do-over story written by some fat 50 year old man whose kids and wife left him.
>>123622115
>and I learn a legendary sword style from a master and I become the best swordsman who ever lived
His ojousama did that, not him.
Also he almost dies to almost every really serious enemy he comes across, then a mouse killed his waifu and ruined his whole laifu.
You guys should just read Overlord. That would solve everything.
>>123622299
You keep doing that and all you'll accomplish is people shittposting every Overlord from now until the fad finally dies.
Everyone should read Burriko and self-insert into the little girl.
>>123622440
>wanting to be a little girl
>when you can worship Papa Ainz
>>123622299
We should just go bug random translators to finish MT now that the author has finished writing the series.
Only 20 more chapters!
>>123612156
Personally i like the LN than the WN after the queen returned in the WN it got boring as fuck, while the LN keep me interested and fucking hate the villain with force of thousand suns and expanded it and really turn it into suffering train for the arc characters.
>>123622636
Knock yourself out. Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky.
>>123622540
Unless papa Ainz can turn me into a cute little girl then no.
>>123612156
The Spear Gaiden is better than the main story actually. I fucking love Crazy characters like Motayasu, his so fucking loyal and a good wingman, in every loop he manages to pair shield with a girl.
>>123622799
I wouldn't doubt it. He's got an item for just about everything. He might even have a spell.
>>123622803
Sadly it's barely translated.
>>123622803
Meanwhile in the main story, Naofumi is busy keeping his underage slaves off his dick while he gets turned on by raccoons.
And he says Motoyasu is weird for being attracted to birds.
>>123613529
>hurr church
>durr trash
is not a good reason.
>>123622972
Its like you dont know what bias thinking is.
I remember this being a thing, like the constant 24/7 threads about it, but I never bothered checking the threads because this sort of setting is kind of overdone at this point.
But what was the 'then' appeal of it? What made it so popular with some people on /a/?
>>123623338
I feel bad and seriously the thing about shieldbro villains are that they are really rage inducing.
Can somebody summarize for me why everyone hates the ending? Who dies?
>>123623461
Everyone dies, insta kill at most.
>>123623597
Why? How? If it was just "a nuke comes out of nowhere and blows everyone to pieces" that would be more disappointing than rage-inducing.
>>123623070
There is being biased against someone that the Church of Scientology claims is the antichrist, and then there is persistently behaving like said person personally tortured, raped, and then gassed your whole family.
>>123624015Deus ex machina goddess descends, followed by an "it was all a dream" ending.Which I frankly don't mind, and I'll keep reading to judge it for myself.
Then fan rage got the author to continue withRaphtalia coming to the Naofumi's world and the both of them returning as Demonbane or something like that.
Manga follows the LN, right? Is that any better than the WN?
>>123624995
Webnovel is basically an amateur one-man effort that goes through no editing and kind of sucks.
LN had some pro editors go through everything and fix the shit.
Most webnovels are shit. I think of those translated only Mushoku Tensei is anywhere near passable and even that has a mountain of problems.
just wonder how far the raw of Spear Hero Gaiden up to?
>>123627277
>implying
I like the web novel, it does start out edgy but gets more light hearted and caustic later. Only complaint is bitches fate, left a bad aftertaste. Would have liked it if she became MCs personal slave but w/e.
Would have been nice to have some sex as well, seeing as it was a WN.
>>123613910
Nisiobis a talentless hack
>>123629142
>but gets more light hearted and caustic later
The writing also becomes more amateur and lacking in flow. Or maybe that's the translation's fault, I dunno,
>>123629142
What?She gets tortured to death, that's crueler than what the MC can do.
>>123629643
I think it's that way from design, each chapter is pretty small compared to LNs, and I rather like the flow, it makes it less predictable.
>>123629690
I'm not sure you understood me correctly, what happens to her is what I'm complaining about.
>>123629142
I agree. Her fate was fucking sadistic. I lost a lot of respect for shield bro. I agree she deserves to be executed or imprisoned for life but the way she died is criminally wrong too.
And also, why the fuck were there no 'serious' romantic development after 300+ chapters. QT gets killed off and he still does not realize what's important to him. That lack of shield bro character development made this series so soured.
>>123630636
>why the fuck were there no 'serious' romantic development
A common complaint with a lot of anime/manga/LN series and their dickless MCs
>>123630915
Except MT. And Overlord is literally dickless.
Since SAO got big haven't a lot of these recent LNs been full on otaku fantasy? It has an audience and people want it.
>>123624071
well...they framed him so that everybody thinks he raped someone.
>>123624228
spoiler]If everything was a dream, how can Raphtalai go to his real world? Also, why is there a raphtalia in the real world with another one in the fantasy one?[/spoiler]
>>123630915
Except this didn't started off as a harem until chapter 150 or so.
>>123629142
At least she deserves somewhat, unlikethe whip hero's harem and his relatives. They get tortured and cruelly executed just for being close to the guy.
>>123631009
MT dragged out the Fitz-senpai "maybe I'm gay?" gag for too long.
>>123631991
At least he did it. Unlike most MCs.
>>123631082
Even the people who know better seem to hate him beyond all rationality, to the point where they sound like petulant five year olds.
>>123617553
>pulled in
The MC is wrongly accused of rape and shunned for it. Unlike most MCs these days that would either somehow manage to laugh it all off, be dense as fuck about it, or be all "meh, I'm too cool for this," Shieldbro actually has a normal human response to this mistreatment - he gets mad. REAL mad.
That was the moment I felt I wanted to support the guy, because he felt more human than other protags.
>Turned away
Haven't actually gotten far enough in yet for this to happen, so it remains to be seen. But rarely do I willingly drop a series. If it happens, it happens slowly and without my realizing it.
>>123630636
can someone please sum what happens after village arc?
I can't push my self to read it no more, especially after shield loses his rage and goes horny, then the girls find him creepy and push him back to his rage.
>>123624995
LN is light hearted
WN is more raw, the MC is a lot bigger asshole and twisted.
