![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_12.40_[2015.03.28_12.40.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mynz0S6.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_12.40_[2015.03.28_12.40.32].jpg")
What are you going to do, miss me? - Quote from woman missed.
>>123147209
10/10
Why would you crosslink from that shithole?
8.5/10 series
9/10 ending
This is why anime is great. A novel, unique, well written (compared to the average series) show that lasts 3 months and doesn't drag on.
This is why animation is an art.
This thread is dead on arrival since you crosslinked it.
Not AOTS but top 3, easily
It ended in the best way possible. Pic related.
I'm more than satisfied. Thanks Madhouse, it was a wild ride, but as long as the sluts keep going into the void, you're right in my book.
>>123148739
Nobody was sent to the void there. People enter the bar with Void & Reincarnation above the elevators every time.
>>123148810
Doesn't change the fact that that slut will get sent into the void.
In hindsight the series overall was better than I gave it credit for. The ending really made it feel like the whole experience was worthwhile.
>When he looks at yougoing into the void.
One day Chiyuki's mom will come through to see Decim.
He'll give her a hug, but won't remember why.
She'll look over his shoulder and see Chiyuki's mannequin and start crying.
>>123148986
Why am I such a slut?
>>123149080
Or she'll go to Ginti's bar and get voided and made into a doll.
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.26_[2015.03.28_12.48.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/INmjngY.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.26_[2015.03.28_12.48.53].jpg")
That smile.
>>123149112
>tfw even your cat leaves you because you're such a dick
It seems like only yesterday we were arguing all day about cheating sluts. I'll never forget the time we spent shitposting together.
>>123149268
It was my honor. Thank you, anon.
Let all sluts get voided.
>>123149122
He really has beautiful eyes.
>>123148069
Agree with this. Perfect ending with amazingly executed emotional scenes.
![[FFF] Death Parade - 01 [354391BE].mkv_snapshot_01.46_[2015.02.18_22.52.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wjJ4Hnh.jpg "[FFF] Death Parade - 01 [354391BE].mkv_snapshot_01.46_[2015.02.18_22.52.18].jpg")
>>123147209
Easily AOTS. I hope we get more intellectual anime like this.
>>123149742
Please be b8...
>>123149268
This show managed to have absolutely horrible threads from beginning to end. I'm sure that's some kind of achievement.
>>123149742
It was fun and shit, but nothing intellectual
>>123149819
>...
>le epig b8
fuck off
>>123147209
S-So... Why is there no more god?
The flower guy hinted at this way back when and we haven't really gotten a answer, have we?
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_18.45_[2015.03.28_12.47.20].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JZNNWnQ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_18.45_[2015.03.28_12.47.20].jpg")
Decim, please.
>>123149921
Because Light Yagami died.
>>123149921
Get the Kult RPG rulebooks. It's there.
>>123149921
Probably just Nietzsche wanking
>>123149959
>tfw no more Decim saying moushiwake arimasen every week
Why live
>>123149991
>>123149742
Define "intellectual anime"
>>123150042
>>123149850
>but nothing intellectual
*tips fedora*
>>123149122
Smile status: protected
My job here is done.
>tfw years and years later another guest shows up at quindecim
>they have a white streak in their hair
>>123150067
Death note
>>123150123
>>123150143
>She goes into Ginti's bar instead
>She gets voided
>>123150178
Ded note was a cat and mouse game. The ethics were shit.
>>123150239
Define "intellectual anime"
>>123150042
Better than the real ending
>>123150284
I'd better read a book
I didn't like the ending. Didn't feel like closure to anything. The previous episode they just toss Mayu away like nothing and in this one besides Decim none of these characters actually seemed to go through a full development arc. And in terms of emotional value, I got more out of the random people coming in and playing games than Chiyuki and her suicide issues.
Everything in the last few episodes was rushed and last-second because the writer didn't realize he didn't have enough time to develop the recurring cast until it was too late.
>>123150300
What do you have against swimming?
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.53_[2015.03.27_23.22.05].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/isILZY4.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.53_[2015.03.27_23.22.05].jpg")
>>123150357
>expecting character development from a bunch of dolls
a light 6/10
Ruined billiards.
Anti-climatic ending.
Bland Ost.
Standard Madhouse Animation/Art.
No canon romance between ginko and suicide girl.
Only good thing was Ginti.
And Nona for fetishes I guess.
>>123150357
mayu's end had weight, she did a bad thing, you can't deny it. people do bad things in the name of love.
it actually contrasts well with chiyuki's end. she wanted to be alive for the sake of her mother and loved ones, but understood that unjustly taking someone's chance at life was wrong.
>>123148810
Yeah, but when they leave the bar the masks change. Remember the bowling episode? Both masks were on Reincarnation.
>>123150725
how is that relevant
>>123150725
And Mayu's mask changed from Onna to Oni, meaning she went to the void.
>>123150666
>people still think Mayu was voided because she did something bad or because Ginti was just an asshole
I swear these threads' stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
>>123149122
I wasn't ready for that smile, goddamn
I want to hug decim.
I didn't understand this line when in context with the rest of the episode. Am I retarded? Was he right? What was he right about? Was he wrong? In the end what did it matter that Decim had emotions? What will happen from here? He is still disapprovingly keeping an eye on things, right?
I kinda feel like his story, especially in relation to Decim and Nona, was incomplete.
>>123150588
>Standard Madhouse Animation/Art.
How is this a complaint? For a television anime the production quality of this show was surprisingly impressive considering how bad parasyte looked.
Death Parades production was way above the usual standards for a television anime.
Some part of /a/ hates this not only for the aforementioned reasons, but also because if an anime brings up any kind of discussion of any sort (like did X deserve Y for doing Z) absolute fucking unmitigated shitstorms occur. 10x so if it involves women.
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.04_[2015.03.28_12.45.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HmNitqg.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.04_[2015.03.28_12.45.28].jpg")
The fuck is wrong with that woman?
>>123150952
The implication is that flower-raper never told anyone else the fourth rule, just the first three. He knows that Quicim is doomed to have a breakdown from judging people now that he has empathy/emotions
Since the best scientific belief for the neurophisiological basis of emotions and empathy is mirror neurons, seeing people go through extreme trauma and suffering will slowly wittle away your brain. That's why they want dummies
>>123150855
>implying occulus would allow such dereliction of duty
yeah, people are pretty stupid
>>123151042
>dat booty
>>123150588
>a light #
Where did this come from. It reeks of /mu/
>>123151055
>The implication is that flower-raper never told anyone else the fourth rule, just the first three.
I thought that made up the fourth rule in the end, that it was a new addition to the rule set.
>>123150855
I'm amazed that you didn't pick up on how she was judged.
>>123150952
The whole thing about arbiters not being able to feel anything was made to protect them from suffering of having to experience dead people's memories and seeing them break down upon discovery of their fate.
Decim learned how to feel but in return will suffer a lot when judging people from now on
ok, then why Mayu was sent to the void?
>>123151224
she chose to void a stranger, with no consideration of who he was in exchange for getting harada's soul back
>>123151280
but she didn't press the button though.
>>123150952
The little monologue at the end where he adds the 4th rule is basically the explanation for why the rules exist at all. An arbiter that came too close to being human would suffer immeasurably when making judgments, like Decim's breakdown while judging Miyuki.
>>123151224
She declined reincarnation. If Harada couldn't be brought back, she would rather be with him in the void than reincarnate alone.
>>123151317
she did, it just was off screen
>>123149122
Shop in some tears for top moe.
>>123151224
She decided to void herself along with that idol instead of voiding someone else
>>123151224
>>123151280
>>123151341
two theories. one is more probable than the other, though.
>>123151127
Anon, did you even understand this scene at all?
Specially the dialogue between Mayu and Ginti regarding the meaning of her life.
>>123151224
She pretty much said her life was nothing without Harada.
So she became nothing with Harada.
I want reddit to leave.
Both reincarnation and void are such iffy concepts, I'd rather if they tried to do something different, like:
>Voided souls are stored up to a point where they can be sent to kickstart a new universe
>Reincarnation's unfortunate side effect is increasing the entropy of our universe
>>123150855
Don't try, man. Some people are just this fucking dense. Early Decim dense, it's like a board filled with your average arbiter, bunch of dummies
>>123151372
you actually think ginti was giving her a choice?
he was giving her as much a choice as much as decim was giving chiyuki a choice in the last episode. it was all a judgement. she failed the judgement, so she got voided
>>123151688
I want madokafags to leave.
>>123150855
>>123151065
>>123151689
all me :^)
>>123151525
the dialogue isn't definitive of anything. it could fit any outcome of her decision except choosing not to void the stranger. if anything, it is proof that she would do anything for harada including voiding a stranger
>>123151280
Which in itself is a pretty stupid form of judgement.
Literally no one who isn't a sociopath or autistic would choose to save a stranger instead of saving the person they love the most. Even the most righteous people would at most want to know more about the stranger's life before making a decision, or maybe try sacrifice themselves to save both.
That's just how people work.
>>123151688
Save it for your fanfic. Neither of those concepts would've contributed to the show in any way
>>123150666
It's not that she did a bad thing and got punished for it. It's that they spend time keeping her around and making her a part of the recurring cast only to uselessly toss her away out of nowhere.
>>123151927
>Literally no one who isn't a sociopath or autistic would choose to save a stranger instead of saving the person they love the most. Even the most righteous people would at most want to know more about the stranger's life before making a decision, or maybe try sacrifice themselves to save both.
you have to compare mayu to chiyuki. chiyuki chose to stay dead instead of coming back to life to comfort her loved ones. are you trying to say she's wrong?
>>123152016
it was either make her exit memorable or have her decay into dust, the former is preferred
>>123152018
>chiyuki chose to stay dead instead of coming back to life to comfort her loved ones
She DID kill herself.
Coming back to life just so that you can apologize to your family for killing yourself and making them sad is a pretty shitty reason to live.
>>123152079
Or, they could have actually made her a better developed and memorable character than waste time making her seem like she'd be relevant then throw her away pointlessly.
>>123152018
In Chiyuki's case the sacrifice of a stranger would just ease her parents and friends' suffering by saving her. That's completely different from being asked to choose between killing a beloved person or killing a stranger.
Not to mention Chiyuki had no right to make that sort of decision, since she was the one responsible for everything for killing herself.
>>123152138
>Coming back to life just so that you can apologize to your family for killing yourself and making them sad is a pretty shitty reason to live.
staying alive just because you don't want your loved ones to be sad is no way to live either
>>123150357
I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding what happened.
Mayu was Chiyuki's foil as Ginti's was Decim's foil. Mayu's and Ginti's subplot was meant to contrast the main one. The only characters that needed to be focused on were Chiyuki and Decim. That's it.
Mayu and Chiyuki were in the same boat and the story lines reflected that. Mayu was voided, because she was willing to sacrifice someone for selfish reasons. So she was sent to the void. Chiyuki was presented with the same opportunity, but due to the fact that she had seen what all of those people went through she decided that even though she was upset about her mother, she couldn't bare the thought of taking someone's life and robbing their loved ones of someone important. It's the very thing that she did when she committed suicide. She did not understand her mother, but at the end she understood not only her, but everyone that came through those doors.
Nona's whole thing was that she wanted to have an arbiter to have empathy. Decim wanted to understand humans. This is what happened. Chiyuki was finally judged and sent to be reincarnated. Ginti sent Mayu to the void, but he made a momento of her because she made a huge impression on him.
What else do you want?!
>>123150666
>>123152018
Watch it again. Chiyuki doesn't accept it, she rationalizes why she shouldn't do it but she breaks just after it and ask Decim to push the button for her. That's when his human side kicks in and he sees how unfair and flawed the system is, so he just undo the fake scenario and gives her a proper judgement
>>123152189
>Mayu was voided, because she was willing to sacrifice someone for selfish reasons
Please stop spreading your theory like it's the one absolute truth.
>>123152155
there was one episode left, man. they wanted to make sure the focused on chiyuki and decim. keeping mayu hangingaround is either a loose tie, or an unnecessary distraction
>>123152216
It also shows a bit of a break through because of the first time the judgement isn't based on "if they break" but "where they break", which is somewhat more human and less asinine.
>>123152155
You are just upset that your favorite character got sent to the void. When Mayu was sent to the void she fulfilled her purpose in the story, but she was not forgotten.
Ginti no longer sees all humans as selfish idiots as he once did. He is different from how he started.
![[FFF] Death Parade - 12 [1A87D450].mkv_snapshot_14.26_[2015.03.28_00.09.52].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7JtEp1O.jpg "[FFF] Death Parade - 12 [1A87D450].mkv_snapshot_14.26_[2015.03.28_00.09.52].jpg")
That was pretty good. Would rewatch in a couple of years.
Pic will come in handy sometime.
>>123152138
Especially because in the proposed scenario her coming back would just erase her death from their memories and at the same time she wouldn't have any memories of the time spent on Quindecim. It's a undo button, there would be nothing to apologize for
Why are people mad about Mayu going to the void anyway? That was the only way she could be with Harada, and in the end they even merged together. That's possibly one of the most reasonable ends she could get.
The only thing I can't understand is why Harada was sent to the void in the first place. The guy wasn't that bad, and both him and Mayu being reincarnated would be the best end for them.
>>123152241
so you want us to assume that arbiters are allowed to void people on a whim, and that occulus and nona would allow such a thing, rather than accept that arbiters are there to judge, specifically drawing out the worst in people, to choose if they are worthy of redemption
>>123152189
That's clear to see. It's still shittily done and entirely rushed. Doesn't matter how much you try to justify it. This ending needed more episodes or focus to build up to it.
>>123152291
>You are just upset that your favorite character got sent to the void
I'm... not, because considering she only got her one episode of quality screentime, I don't care enough about the character to like her, which is why her death leaves no impact and feels worthless.
I see what they were going for and it'd be fine on paper, but it wasn't well executed.
>>123152377
>yfwmiurakentarodiesbeforetheygetofftheboat.jpg
>>123152241
It is selfish, but humans are selfish beings. Chiyuki could have easily gone for Mayu's route, but she's been through too much. What's even more powerful is that Chiyuki was willing to give up seeing her mom again for the sake of billions of strangers. This opposed to Mayu who was willing to sacrifice someone for the person she cared for most. What Chiyuki did wasn't easy at all as most people would choose their loved ones. That doesn't mean that Mayu was wrong. Her decision was right for her and she was willing to pay the price. That's all there is to it.
>>123152431
No, I believe Ginti chose to void her because she had nothing else to life for if the idol weren't with her. Neither Ginti nor Mayu were completely in the wrong like many people seem to think.
I think part of this was also to show the impact of death on a population with such a high suicide rate. at least that's what came to mind during this last episode as i cried like a bitch.
enjoyable. first two episodes were heavy handed but glad i stuck around.
>>123149460
I didn't get why he got normal pupils when he started crying and then at the end they restarted to the ones he had before.
They should've kept it like that.
![[FFF] Death Parade - 12 [1A87D450].mkv_snapshot_13.07_[2015.03.27_21.13.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J6GYf7m.jpg "[FFF] Death Parade - 12 [1A87D450].mkv_snapshot_13.07_[2015.03.27_21.13.27].jpg")
She should have been voided for this. The fact that SHE doesn't do it, but someone else does it for YOU does not excuse you from being a shitter.
>>123152567
ginti is part of a system, he doesn't get free reign to do such things without proper judgment.
>>123152597
Ginti pls
>>123150017
For more anime
>>123152579
How hard did the /v/ episode hit you?
>>123152441
>I'm... not, because considering she only got her one episode of quality screentime, I don't care enough about the character to like her, which is why her death leaves no impact and feels worthless.
It's not worthless at all. It makes Chiyuki's decision that much more impactful.
>>123152589
He stopped being an arbiter for that short moment.
>>123152579
>enjoyable. first two episodes were heavy handed but glad i stuck around.
agreed. ep2 was horrendous
>>123152579
I was thinking the same thing too.
boom, boom, boom
>>123152567
>I believe Ginti chose to void her because she had nothing else to life for if the idol weren't with her.
But the last episode clearly put Chiyuki in a similar situation if not on a grander scale. If Chiyuki had chosen to kill a random person to be with her mother then she would have been sent to the void just like Mayu.
>>123152597
You didn't understand the ending, she wasn't voided because he actually knew she was a good person and understood that when posed in such extreme emotional situation you don't get to think clearly and look like a voidfag.
At least she understood she can't replace a life for her own, specially after she's the one who decided to end it herself.
>>123152680
there was absolutely nothing wrong with ep2. they fucking introduced chiyuki and showed you around the bar.
>>123152216
what she accepts is that there is an interconnection of people, and that she has no justification for putting herself above another person
>>123152655
pretty hard. got a soft spot for family, seeing that one guy go through seeing his mother in that game got me right in the feels. it's too easy to forget about those who are around you all the time.
>>123152430
He was voided because Ginti is biased. He also couldn't grasp how much Harada actually meant for Mayu. He might have reconsidered it if he knew she would rather get voided than be without him.
But I do think it was a fitting end and a nice parallel to Decim and Chiyu story and that lovebirds case. The merging was a nice touch, even though we know the void will be pure shit they are facing it together
>>123152831
>there was absolutely nothing wrong with ep2
It was retarded handholding that sat you done and explained everything that happened in episode 1 like you were an idiot. They could have easily introduced the characters without doing that.
>>123152790
Except she had to THINK ABOUT IT. It should have been an automatic NOPE the minute he offered her the deal.
>>123152631
Under the law the law treats someone who orders someone else to kill as if you yourself pulled the trigger.
>>123152831
that was okay, the whole commentary during and after the judgement turned me off. kinda like hand holding and leading the viewer to a specific "answer"
>>123152913
>Except she had to THINK ABOUT IT. It should have been an automatic NOPE the minute he offered her the deal.
Not according to Decim.
Why was this show so hated on /a/ anyway?
It isn't a masterpiece, but it managed to be at least decent throughout all of it, but the backlash was fucking insane. You couldn't even mention the show in other threads without people calling it "normalfag anime", "reddit/MAL/v/ anime", "pretentious and tryhard" or just the usual "just call it shit without further explanations".
Do people really feel that threatened about any anime that tries to have some sort of message combined with a more serious plot?
>>123152956
Decim has been tainted just like flower head said would happen.
>>123152913
By your logic, everyone who has ever had a selfish or bad thought should be voided.
>>123152994
Why is flower power the moral authority?
>>123152430
harada did decide to kick her off in order to win. ginti wasn't going to overlook that. he might have tried to save her, but not to the point that he was willing to throw himself off the pole, so it doesn't negate his darkness
>>123152987
>grouping /a/ as a whole
>falling for shitposting
>caring for what "/a/" has to say
>>123152987
Because bitches and whores. Also idiots overrating mediocre shit and pretending it was aots when not even fucking close.
>>123152987
It has to do that a lot of characters in this show serve no real purpose. You could take out one eye girl, nigger girl, and elevator dude and the show would still be the same.
>>123153077
So people aren't allowed to like a thing more than you do?
Eh. The show was alright, I guess. Nothing too grand. Still liked Jigoku Shoujo better though and I fucking watched all three seasons of that. However, the NEET and Detective episodes were really good with the original billiard one being the best.
Won't be missed.
>>123152597
You are following their fucked up rules, that's missing the point. People entire existences shouldn't be judged by wrong decisions brought about by extreme situations. Decim learned that and turned into a better arbiter, he might suffer for it but he will haves Chiyu's doll as a memento that it's worth it in the end.
>>123153124
opinions are srs bsns
>>123147209
That was a finale handled really well.
It's easily anime of the season for me.
Ending was 10/10
>>123153015
Why not? Under the system the person who gets reincarnated doesn't remember anything from their past so everything they learned is moot.
>>123153041
Because he has more experience and wiser and has been around longer.
There's that feeling again, when a season's over and there won't be a new episode next week or any week for that matter.
>>123152987
The threads were cancer and nobody wants you inviting that cancer into other threads. After the first episode, people came into DP threads looking for a shitstorm, and if they didn't find one they'd stir one. Nobody wants to deal with the kids that think everything must always be a shitstorm. They're your problem, you keep 'em.
The show is fine, even above average, but it certainly has enough flaws to not suit everyone's tastes.
>>123153077
>pretending it was aots
So people who like something you don't are just pretending?
I genuinely think it would be AOTS for me ifBoueibu's ending wasn't as good as it was.
>>123152987
probably because people like this are talking about it
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 08 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.38_[2015.02.27_16.07.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ouxd4o6.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 08 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.38_[2015.02.27_16.07.31].jpg")
>>123153190
Moving that anime folder into the 'completed' section is a lot like saying goodbye to a bunch of friends.
I may have only knew them for 3 months, but they brightened my weeks and hung out with me every friday. They will be missed.
>>123153180
>he has more experience
A rather weak assertion to support your argument. How does it follow?
>wiser
By whose measure?
>has been around longer
At best you can say that this is the same as your first point, and at worst it's completely irrelevant.
>tfw i've had the episode paused on mpc for the past 30 minutes
>>123153192
Well, I have to agree the threads were fucking awful. For some time I even filtered them just so I could enjoy the show a little more.
>>123153141
>Jigoku Shoujo
That was shit though.
>>123153193
>So people who like something you don't are just pretending?
No, they're just wrong. Other people have opinions, I have facts. Years ago a greek god tried to fuck me but I rejected him and he spat on my fingers and now I type the truth but am cursed to only be able to do it on anonymous imageboards.
>>123153142
>People entire existences shouldn't be judged by wrong decisions brought about by extreme situations.
These people have CHOICES. None of them had say.. a bullet held to their head.
>>123152779
> If Chiyuki had chosen to kill a random person to be with her mother then she would have been sent to the void just like Mayu
But she did. Decim just determined that this shouldn't provide her a one way trip to the void >>123152597
In the same way Ginti didn't void Mayu just because he was supposed to, she was sent down to Harada
>>123153290
Decim dies.
>>123153265
The fact that he turned out to be right in the end with Decim breaking down like a little bitch proved his point.
>>123148069
I felt the series was good but not great but this was one of the best anime endings I have seen.
>>123153334
oh man, AOTY 10/10 ;_;
give me a real spoiler next time, faggot
>>123153363
And why is the breakdown morally objectionable?
So she killed herself and came back? Or what.
>>123153302
Still better than this. It's final arc with Ai made me feel far more for that show than any of the shit DP did.
>>123153333
she didn't do it, asking someone, especially decim, to do something like that is not the same thing as pressing the button. the fact that she couldn't do it herself just meant she recognized that she had no right to do such a thing
>>123153395
Crying is for fags
>>123153395
Because he'll break down eventually as Occulus said and won't be able to handle all the memories resulting in bias.
>>123153399
she's a doll you retard
>>123153428
But you are a fag, anon
>>123153395
regret and sorrow for past decisions make you more lenient toward cases with similar circumstances, making the arbiter biased to one side or the other to avoid such emotions, and that's not right
>>123152658
That's fine and all, but the character herself feels worthless outside of that usage as a tool. It's a shitty way to write when that's the character's only use and they can't stand on their own. There's no emotional impact, just a literary device thrown around.
All and all it's a pretty bad cast of unexplored characters and an ending that can't make up for its own simplicity by at least being powerful. I enjoyed the show alot when it was just people from different paths in life and the events leading up to their deaths that made them the people they were. The assertion that human beings can't be judged in black and white because we all have our circumstances is a moving message I think, but the show made it very clear whenever it tried to bring attention to events outside of the games that it wasn't capable of tying it all together cleanly.
>>123153464
Oh. That's depressing
>>123153459
There already is bias, anon. Is this theorised bias morally worse? Why?
So, how would you fix the judging system, /a/? Or would you keep it as it is?
>>123153569
>There already is bias
what?
>>123152987
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop generalizing, most Death Parade threads on /a/ were people arguing on why a character should have or shouldn't have been voided.
>>123153592
All normalfags go to limbo.
>>123153598
Their methods are biased already in the sense that they basically induce people into getting voided.
>>123153592
as is. muh emotions are a terrible way to judge. and drawing out the darkness is entertaining. and edgy
>>123153598
What do you mean, "what"? The established system offers no evidence towards an objective morality, relying on a certain system to establish judgement that only focuses on certain scenarios and aspects of a person's personality and life.
>>123153608
>You couldn't even mention the show in other threads
>in other threads
>>123153658
well yeah, it is a test to see if the characteristic to do positive things is stronger than the desire to do bad things. everyone had negative desires, but those worthy of redemption have the willpower to restrain or overcome that negativity
>>123153316
There's way more variables to consider, man. Just look a the brother in the killers episode, he would get reincarnation being paired with anybody else, but they had to instigate his desire for revenge.
Setting some hard rule for appropriate behavior when the situations have different weights is the wrong way to go about it
>>123153711
i don't see where there is inherent bias, or are you confusing the word with something else?
>>123150357
My theory is that Mayu was voided because Harada was supposed to be voided but Ginti knew that would make Mayu upset so he voided them both so they can be together.
Ginti came off as the "tough guy act" to me from the very start so it's not surprising that he would void Mayu. If he felt he could reincarnate harada i'm sure he would but he was a cheater and vain so he couldn't make an exception to him so he made Mayu go down with him.
>>123153756
That's nothing new here.
You will always have bitching like "why can't (name of anime) fags keep their shit on one thread.
Especially if it is has some popularity
>>123153592
All normies should die.
http://strawpoll.me/3920352
Poll should still be indicative since proxyfag took the bait answer.
>>123153592
Fuck the rules. Good, annoying, bad everybody goes upwards. The bar is just pit stop for deadfags. Let god handle the resulting mess, he left the building
In the end this anime was just an anti-suicide propaganda
>>123153592
Let's be honest, humans are not the best judges of anything. They are an emotional species that drives on basically RNG. Yes I used that word because that is what it is, because they rely on things like "faith" and "trust" and those are just not of substance when trying to judge.
I mean, let's use an example. Let's say there is some little girl. She says her mommy is sick and that she has no money. What do you think most people do? They give the kid the money. No questions asked they just give her the moment. Welp, find out later that her mom isn't sick and that they in fact are living fine in a two story house.
That's what I'm talking about. Appeal to emotions will just cloud your logic and common sense.
>>123153899
>but Ginti knew that would make Mayu upset so he voided them both so they can be together.
Ginti plays by the book, even if he had minimal attachement to her, he voided her because not only her choice to kill for someone else's sake, but because she said that her life was simply living for Idol's sake
>>123153899
>My theory is that Mayu was voided because Harada was supposed to be voided but Ginti knew that would make Mayu upset so he voided them both so they can be together.
look, man. ginti is not stupid. mayu is. she didn't even understand what the void was. if he didn't want to upset her, he would have just left it at that
>>123153592
Simple. Monkeys on a typewriter. Monkeys working as bartenders. Monkey as gods.
>>123153995
>humans are not the best judges of anything
Name a better judge
>>123154025
coin flips
>>123154025
a system designed by god to judge souls
>>123153796
He and the detective died at the same time. That's one of the rules for ending up in Quelm. It is at the most just a mere coincidence he got paired up with the detective.
>>123154025
Dredd.
>>123154140
>everyone gets sent to isocubes
>>123152987
Because this is a underage show and people like this >>123153257 who only watched EVA shit come here to spoil irrelevant opinion about It.
>>123153888
We have one example where the two who arrive are amicable childhood friends. They end up essentially going on a date with basically no unwanted conflict. Another example, as >>123153796 mentions, has two dudes appear who are entangled in some very antagonistic shit. Is this system set up to be fair? To whom? Were the former pair tested to see if they would harm a person who allowed their sibling to be raped?
>>123153773
That would be fine if the "positive" choice and the "negative" choice were both feasible by your average human. And asking people to choose between their beloved ones or strangers, for example, is far from being a fair way to judge someone, since the choice is obvious.
The way things are now people have to either be lucky and play the game with a batshit insane partner who'll make you them look good by comparison, or be fucking saints if they want to have the chance of being reincarnated.
>>123147209
>ending:
No development beyond nona and decim gaining feelings for each other
Oldfag is curious but not exactly violent
>>123154005
Of course he's not stupid but you could tell he was trying to hide something. Maybe he wasn't the only arbiter old loli suspenders gave emotion to? Perhaps he felt sorry for her and understood her but knew he had to hide it? I mean he was very defensive about the whole arbiters are not humans thing.
>>123153998
I feel like that was more or less an excuse to void her if anything. A means to be able to void her and not feel like he made a bad call. If he was given human emotion like I said above then he would have felt guilty about it.
Whether or not Mayu knew, Ginti definitely purposely fused their souls together as an act of mercy.
>>123154085
And he would still pass despite that if it wasn't for that whole "you can make him suffer, y'know?" bonus round. There's a good reason Chiyu got feed up that ep, niichan got royally fucked by their system.
>It's wrong to want to understand each other
>I'm sure it's not wrong for people to want to understand each other
Regardless of the fact that these statements make little sense on their own, i don't understand why she said these things in the first place
>>123154213
Sorry, no matter how I look at it, Ginti is not the type to act on emotion (if he even has a scope of it). He is 100% rule abiding, he was Decim's foil in the show
If he voided her it would be because he believed she deserved to get voided
>>123154174
More comfortable than the void
>>123154308
She was talking about Chavvot. Her favorite story that paralleled with Decim and her
>>123154287
No, the onii chan fucked himself over, because he knew what would happen if he downed that knife. Hell, Chiyuki told him straight out what would happen and he still CHOSE to do it.
>>123154197
we are judging souls, not putting them on trial to see who gets past st peter. if you didn't notice, nona forces decim to take the difficult murdercase where the detective got killed by the bro. it was lucky that the detective held no grudges. but that isn't considered normal, so they had special arbiters set up to handle it.
You know, despite what people say about all women going to the void, in the end the number of voided men and voided women compared to number of reincarnations was basically the same.
>>123154329
Exactly he's rule abiding to a T and that would explain why he feels so conflicted about them. If emotions weren't a factor he would have easily voided idol bishi nigga and reincarnated little miss too much eye shadow.
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_05.53_[2015.03.27_18.58.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jf9QTCd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_05.53_[2015.03.27_18.58.00].jpg")
ANNOYING BITCH
>>123154206
>the choice is obvious.
is it really? who did chiyuki choose?
>>123154426
>we are judging souls, not putting them on trial to see who gets past st peter
Is that not exactly what we are doing? It might not be God's Heaven and the circles of hell, but the notion that one is a better outcome than the other and that you are being judged on whether you get to the nicer option is all the same.
>nona forces decim to take the difficult murdercase where the detective got killed by the bro
Okay, so how does that play into the moral rightness of the system if it can be fucked with at the whim of certain individuals?
>>123154025
Now before anyone goes, "what" just remember that despite what these brains are they still were able to make clear decisions and the decisions they made at least made sense.
Now shift your focus to every human that came down to Qulem. Not one of them would be able to make a fair judgement. Not even Chiyuki since she went on a rant to the brother amounted to muh feelings.
>>123154213
>Of course he's not stupid but you could tell he was trying to hide something.
first off, you're asking us to assume a lot of things to make your idea viable. occam's razor and all that. secondly i think that if he was hiding anything, he was hiding the fact that he was a little attatched to mayu, hence the doll he made in the last ep
>>123154453
The reason he didnt void her at first was because he had no basis to void her in so he gave her another trial.
He does not feel conflicted, it is his job and he accepts the responsibility. He has no qualms or regret about the system.
He probably found her refreshing and out of respect made a little wooden idol of her showing that Decim is rubbing off on him.
Like, your posts make him appear way too sympathetic, I say that he is not there yet.
>>123154486
She begged Decim to press the button for her because she wanted to choose her family but didn't want to take responsibility for fucking over a stranger.
So in the end she didn't have to choose either because Decim got too emotional and the fake world fell apart.
>>123154486
If it were anyone else besides Decim judging her, she would have been voided because of >>123152597
But since it was him, he knew the system was biased and flawed, so that kind of trial wasn't enough to void someone.
>>123154386
Wouldn't you? Reincarnation and all, the whole reason he killed someone and ended up there trapped into this revenge plot is because the cop cared more about exerting his personal justice than protecting people.
His imouto was left in a real shitty situation and he probably won't see her in another life and it's partially thanks to this guy.
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_12.00_[2015.03.27_22.05.45].png](https://i.imgur.com/gwTK5PY.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_12.00_[2015.03.27_22.05.45].png")
WOAH RIVETING DISCOVERY RIGHT DECIM
>>123154567
>Is that not exactly what we are doing? It might not be God's Heaven and the circles of hell, but the notion that one is a better outcome than the other and that you are being judged on whether you get to the nicer option is all the same.
souls only carry the predispositions toward certain actions, no memories, no past offenses are taken into account, only what is done in judgement.
>Okay, so how does that play into the moral rightness of the system if it can be fucked with at the whim of certain individuals?
the fact that they have special procedures in those cases is indicative that they would expect such animosity and would have different conditions for judgement other than what decim would use. if they didn't care about fairness, they wouldn't recognize anything as special
What happens to the souls of people who die alone? Are they automatically judged? If so, who judges them and why can't people who die at the same time as someone else be judged in the same way?
>>123154674
recognizing that she had no right to take someone's life was her answer to him
>>123154687
ditto, she defered to an outside power, a judge to determine if she was worthy enough to come back at the price of another. she did not believe her desire to live was enough to take another person's life.
>>123149122
Someone predicted this exact scene a few weeks ago and I've wanted it in ever since. Glad it played out that way.
>>123154699
I know for a 100% fact I wouldn't do it because I honestly would agree with the detective and sided with him.
>>123154860
What's the probability of that happening? They probably just wait another second to judge him or her with someone else
>>123154772
>predispositions toward certain actions
Why didn't they try to put the barren, geriatric woman in a situation that might bring out her inner "must hurt dude who allowed my sibling to be raped"? Why are these "certain actions" inconsistent?
>no memories
They clearly gain memories over the course of the game.
>if they didn't care about fairness, they wouldn't recognize anything as special
Maybe I misunderstand, but I would hold the opposite to be true. The process should be one hundred percent the same for everybody forever in order to be fair.
>>123154699
how does hurting a dead man help him in any way? especially knowing what the rules are, especially when chiyuki's chi's are mashing into me, there would be other things more important.
![[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.58_[2015.03.28_12.26.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dXTxKYD.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Death Parade - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.58_[2015.03.28_12.26.45].jpg")
Daw, how adorable.
>>123154921
Of course you can act all edgy and rational to the point of saying that on an anonymous imageboard when it wasn't your imouto getting raped.
An obvious 6/10.
>>123155084
Don't take this the wrong way, but it isn't my responsibility to go out and save anyone's imouto.
>>123155160
Not even your own?
>>123154989
>Why didn't they try to put the barren, geriatric woman in a situation that might bring out her inner "must hurt dude who allowed my sibling to be raped"? Why are these "certain actions" inconsistent?
believe it or not, some people don't have darkness in them
>They clearly gain memories over the course of the game.
as they gain their memories they also learn the nature of the place and the fact that they are dead. if someone persists in their hatred despite finding out the rules and circumstances, they deserve the void.
>Maybe I misunderstand, but I would hold the opposite to be true. The process should be one hundred percent the same for everybody forever in order to be fair.
in a world where everyone was the same, you might be right
>>123154921
You don't have a younger sister, right? Or maybe yours is just that much of a cunt.
How can you even side with that guy? If he was working to prevent those things I would understand, but the fucker was in a position to stop it and instead just oversees it with total disregard for the victims. He was just as bad as the criminals and I'm glad karma caught up with him
>>123155190
No, because it is her life. The minute I start to interfere in her life is the moment I step into tyranny.
>>123155208
Well if you remember the detective wasn't very liked by the police force and he wasn't carrying a weapon so there wasn't much he could do. He isn't the Punisher or Batman.
>>123155268
>The minute I start to interfere in her life is the moment I step into tyranny.
what the fuck are you saying
>>123155199
>believe it or not, some people don't have darkness in them
But they didn't put her through the same trials. How do they know that she doesn't?
>in a world where everyone was the same, you might be right
So there is bias. People who took certain actions in life are judged in a certain, corresponding way.
>>123147209
What was up with green hair showing up at Ginti's? Are they setting up for a second season?
>>123155323
It isn't my business.
>yfw Ginti lost his precious cat who actually ditched him for that act against Mayu
>it's probably being pet by another arbiter right now
10/10 Anime of the Decade
>>123155017
Nothing would help him. Rubbing it in his face only broke him even further. He didn't really have void or reincarnation as his priorities at that moment. Dude was still assimilating all that. No matter how you look at it, there was way too much shit to process
>>123155352
>What was up with green hair showing up at Ginti's
They just wanted to give best boy Clavis the screentime he didn't get during the whole show.
>>123155344
>But they didn't put her through the same trials. How do they know that she doesn't?
that's what they use the memories for, as a basis for how to draw out the darkness
>So there is bias. People who took certain actions in life are judged in a certain, corresponding way.
if bias is recognizing that people and circumstances are different for everyone, sure. if fairness is disregarding everything that identifies someone, i don't want that. the whole purpose of "judging" is to take into account the differences and circumstances and weigh them against other things. if everything was cut and dried, you'd just use a spreadsheet to determine who goes to the void and who gets reincarnated
>>123155377
Being accessory to murder doesn't infringe on people rights?
>>123155352
He is just fucking around, it's a hint at BD specials A day with Clavis
>>123155352
Ginti was lonely so Clavis was keeping him company.
>>123155562
It isn't my job to protect you. That would be what cops are for.
>>123155434
The cat is probably crashing at Clavis couch, but he doesn't feel the need to tell Ginti about it.
>>123155562
Stop replying to edgy autists.
>>123155620
That's great because then we agree. He was a cop and that is his job
>>123155352
>How to we show Ginti's character development/subtle human emotions if there's no longer anyone in the bar for him to have dialogue with?
>Let's send Clavis there to talk to him.
>>123155702
No, he is a detective and his job is to solve cases.
>>123155071
So what happened with dad? Dead? He wasn't around later on
