What exactly is the deal with Shirou's body becoming swords? I thought it had something to do with Avalon, and just how the pieces of the sheath heal him. Or is it Archer's Unlimited Blade Works somehow turning on him?
He's sealing up damage and torn muscles with blades because his projection is interfering with the natural healing effects of Avalon.
>>121915594
Hijacking this thread because fuck it, the other one archived.
The two scenes we can confirm right now are Rin and Archer talking about reality marbles, which was cut from the broadcast version of episode 0, and this from episode 2.
The Saber content we can confirm is with the Gardens of Avalon book, but so far, nothing with the new animation.
If I was that beat up and making swords out of thin air was what I was best at, you sure as hell can bet that I'd be fixing myself up with blades. Thats metal as fuck.
>>121915716
Nobody cares for adaptions.
Go back to
/r/fatestaynight
>>121915888
Rude.
>>121915961
The largest pool of traffic is on Reddit, not here. Nothing but cynicism, spamming and reposts again and again. Sorry.
>>121916008
Nigger there's always TM stuff on /a/. If you don't wanna look at them, then don't.
>>121915716
Why is this show so boring to watch when compared to the prequel?
>>121916156
f/z was boring alot of the time too don't kid yourself
>>121916156
Zero? I don't think it is. Compare the first 13 episodes between the two and the pacing is basically the same overall.
UBW starts off with more of a bang, but lulls a bit in the middle, while Zero takes several episodes to get going, but picks up. That being said Zero doesn't constantly build up its pacing; may I remind you of the loli Rin episode?
>>121916156
Because you're not watching it but just shitposting about it on /a/
>>121916220
What's interesting about UBW is I think the pacing makes perfect sense if you treat most of the episodes as if they were meant to be an hour long, just like 0 and 1. Structure-wise, most of the episodes work with one building up to action, while the other is the pay off.
>>121916156
Zero's first season was just as slow and boring, if not worse. Not even marathoning it helped.
>>121916345
I couldn't turn it off, it was so engaging. I loved every episode.
>>121916425
'cause ur a faggot
>>121916425
Did you read the VN first?
I mean like, most of those early episodes were just retreading stuff that already got covered in there. That whole first hour long episode was basically filled with reworded infodumps from the game.
>>121916474
Well the whole series is stuff that got covered in the VN
so what's your point?
>>121916220
Are you to suggest that /a/ wasn't gripped in the deepest throes of suspense during loli Rin episode?
Pretty sure /a/ thinks that's the climax. Everything following is dénouement.
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I liked how they showed all Tokiomi's old shit in the first episode of the new UBW. His magic fax machine and silly phone, made you remember Zero.
>>121916474
I found the characters and dialogue really compelling compared to F/SN.
I think my issue is that I consumed all of this within a week and I'm a little tired of it all.
>>121916540
You find new stuff more interesting than old stuff. You watch a show that explains all the technicalities of magic and it's pretty enthralling, when really it's basically just catching you up on stuff from the source material.
>>121916563
Watching the entirety of Zero in one go can skew you on stuff. It's harder to remember the slower stuff when the more memorable bits strike out for you.
Right now, you're comparing a completed story, to a story that's half done. Both FSN and Zero weren't paced like a weekly manga, where they have to hook you to read the next chapter, they're completed stories that build their overall narrative as they go on. The one disadvantage UBW has right now is that viewers can only see half of it.
>>121916668
the disadvantage is that viewers have spoiled themselves with Zero shit and now won't enjoy Stay Night the same way
Rin is best girl.Why is she wearing her ribbons while bathing?
>>121916796
she's also wearing socks.
And the answer is because it makes her hot as fuck
>>121916735
I find UBW as a story more compelling than Zero, it's just different. Zero is closer to a more standard battle royale, while UBW is basically all about Shirou and his inner struggles. The problem is right now they're just getting to the good part with that struggle.
He's in his lowest place, he's got no servant, and everything seems to be falling apart, but now he has to pick the pieces back together and move forward.
>>121916735
It's a prequel so it's okay if you watch it first.
>>121916854
Oh boy, here we go.
>>121916821
That's undeniable. Wearing socks while naked is arousing as fuck to me.
>>121916854
It's okay but not ideal.
>>121916854
Watch yourself. You don't want the rabid Fate police to lay down the law.
Is 24 episodes enough for the entire UBW?
>>121916854
You could watch it first but why would you? That's like watching The Hobbit before Lord of the Rings.
>>121916854
Ahm... no it's not okay ,and because it's a prequel doesn't mean you should watch it first.
Not even gonna explain tho , feel like ur just trolling
>>121916974
Do you feel like every post on /a/ is trolling?
>>121916823
But now we are going to see saber fillers i'm sure of it.
I mean , we all know they'll put as much saber as they can
>>121916971
>That's like watching The Hobbit before Lord of the Rings.
Subtle.
>>121916971
The Hobbit was written way before the Lord of the Rings, this is a bad comparison.
>>121916958
Depending on how they handle the pacing and such in S2, it might even be too much episodes.
>>121917032
>>121917035
talking about the films brehs
>>121917016
They actually haven't. In fact they've removed just about as much Saber as possible. They've skipped over all her optional scenes and even a few that happened anyway. It's really noticeable after episode four or so. She basically gets reduced to a side character.
>>121916997
99%.
joking but still , this is something everyone here already knows , unless you want to get spoiled then you shouldn't watch zero before stay night
>>121917069
Are you a filthy secondary?
You read the Hobbit, then the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion.
>>121917032 >>121917035
Why do The Hobbit movies feel like the opposite of entertainment? 3 movies was way too much.
>>121917073
Still not forgiving ufotabel for making shirou look like an austistic spaz(more than he already is) in the last episode of S1 just because of making Saber look good
>>121916958
More than enough that's why it's being padded out.
>>121916971
Fate/Zero is actually decent, not padded out garbage devoid of magic and adventure. It still should be watched after the VN though.
>>121916974
I agree with you, but you should write like a reasonable person, not like a retard.
Gen is a hack, interesting ideas but he's piss poor at executing them however I enjoyed Zero despite hating everything Type Moon that isn't Tsukihime or Kara no Kyoukai, Zero had its moments and was alright as a prequel since it had source material to go on which Gen did wonders with the adaptation. I'd say it's decent, not great or spectacular as everyone claims but it's certainly not terrible either.
As for being mediocre Fate/Zero is just the same Gen Urobuchi drivel using the same themes of despair he always does in all of his work to make them seem less vapid than they actually are, I wonder if he legitimately believes he's creating a work of art or not, I'm really confused on that one. He reminds me way too much of Christopher Nolan and his pseudo intellectualism.
>>121917108
Hackson had to bend the knee to his overlords and edit the original two films into three to ensure Warner Bros. would have tent poles for several years.
The Hobbit: Tolkein Edit
As per tolkieneditor's site, some of the biggest cuts (two of which you can see as vids in this post) include:
The investigation of Dol Guldor has been completely excised
The Tauriel-Legolas-Kili love triangle has also been removed.
The Pale Orc subplot is vastly trimmed down.
Several of the Laketown scenes have been cut, such as Bard's imprisonment and the superfluous orc raid.
The prelude with old Bilbo is gone.
Several of the orc skirmishes have been cut.
Several of the action scenes have been tightened up, such as the barrel-ride, the fight between Smaug and the dwarves (no molten gold in this version), and the Battle of the Five Armies.
A lot of filler scenes have been cut as well.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
>>121917296
>The Tauriel-Legolas-Kili love triangle has also been removed.
Good.
Tolkien is basically Nasu without the cooking.
>>121915332
Avalon made Shirou's reality marble sword based. Shirou always had the potential for creating a RM, but with no infinity, but thanks to the great fire and Avalon together made UBW. Now there are serval moments Shirou lost Avalon's full power healing abilities due to the fact he lost connection to Saber you need to be Sabers master to gain it's full effects. Now here it gets interesting since Shirou lost Avalon his RM tries to fill the void by healing Shirou's body by creating swords over the massive wounds.
>>121917458
Literally the only good part of the movies and it shouldn't have been there.
WHY?
>>121917498
>Now here it gets interesting since Shirou lost Avalon his RM tries to fill the void by healing Shirou's body by creating swords over the massive wounds.
This actually works as healing. The swords knit themselves together, then slowly transmogrify back to muscles over time. It's a very patchwork job, but it seals big wounds well.
The sword virus in HF, however, was Archer's UBW recognizing Shirou's entire body as a wound.
>>121917032
I read that in Rin's voice
>>121917979
It's not the go to option of healing when it comes to fights, but I do agree it heal the wounds over time unlike Avalon which will recover your wounds in a flash or at the least much faster pace than his RM.
I'm pretty sure Archer's arm has a fragment or large portion of his RM which is inflicting with Shirou's RM which cases the rejection to happen.
>>121918166
How can you read it in Rin's voice when she can't speak English?
>>121916796
>Why is she wearing her ribbons while bathing?
Isn't there something in the Nasuverse about how a female magus' hair holds a lot of magic, and a large number of them tie their hair off with ribbons for some reason regarding this?
I always thought it was a stupid thing that was mostly forgotten but then Touko gave up twenty years worth of hair to contract with Lugh in Mahoyo.
>>121919014
Are you saying that whenever you watch anime you never read the subs and hear the voices and just naturally combine the two making it sound like speech in the language you're reading it in?
>>121919126
No. Is that supposed to be normal?
>>121919159
I'd say it varies from person to person. No idea what causes it but it's pretty neat.
>>121919190
When I read subs, I dont read them aloud in my head, I just absorb the meaning and assign that to the jumble of nonsense and the few Japanese words I know that I'm hearing. When I'm reading a book, I read everything in my own voice, yet somehow all the characters sound different. Its strange.
>>121919190
Never happened to me. I hear them as Japanese and that's all I hear. Pretty much what >>121919261 says. I honestly prefer it that way.
>>121919261
This is why i can't into the human brain. Everything is so complex and unusual and the meaning to it all is likely hidden even deeper inside the brain.
>>121919341
When you actually try and think about stuff like what's actually happening when you read, or what pain feels like, or what you're seeing when you picture a memory or even SEE, you have to wonder why people take LSD when their brains are already full of fuck.
>>121917478
Oh boy.
>>121919403
The Brain is the most amazing thing in the world. It's the most advanced biological computer ever.
>>121917478
So Nasu is the Japanese Tolkien, only less original?
>>121919437
They recently made a digital worm brain. Its only got about 300 neurons total, but they linked it into a body made of Lego, and with zero programing other then the simulated pathways themselves, it acted like a fucking worm. We are getting closer to breaking the real final frontier: ourselves.
>>121919569
>worm brain
>>121919569
>We are getting closer to breaking the real final frontier: ourselves.
Is it bad if I feel somewhat unsettled by this?
>>121919569
Closer, but still easily one hundred years off of anything actually cool like digitizing brains for near-immortality or shit like that.
I come into a fate thread and people are talking about brains.
What the fuck /a/?
I had a dream today where naked Rider told me to get into bed, she then wrapped herself around my back as Sakura got in as well. Sakura then playfully showed off her body to me in the most god damn erotic way I've ever seen. This was all so livid to the point where I could feel Rider's breasts up against my back. I then woke up because it was to much. Has anyone got experience with lucid dreaming? I need more
>>121920337
One time this fat asian guy with a chrome vape and a santa beard gave me LSD and I fought in the grail war. The legendary rally driver Richard Burns was my servant.
>>121920573
Did you win?
>>121920738
No. A skinny Brit isn't great at fighting, and his noble phantasm was just my shitty non-evo Lancer. And somehow Colin McRae was summoned as the actual Lancer.
I watch a lot of racing when I'm not being weeaboo as fuck, you see.
>>121919642
I did hear about some lab building a digital copy of the human brain. I think it took something like four days to process what a real one would in one single second. Either they wrote that brain in Java, or we've still got quite a ways to go yet.
>>121919458
No tolkien's world building is consistent and his storytelling is miles above Nasu's
>>121920787
>And somehow Colin McRae was summoned as the actual Lancer.
I think I know what his noble phantasm was.
I finished FSN last year and something ticks me a little
How Shirou managed to win against Archer there ? does archer let himself die by shirou ? or is it by pure strenght ?
>>121922901
MC privilege, which Archer lost years ago.
>>121922901
Archer knows that he's fighting a pointless fight.
So in the end, yeah. He let Shirou win.
>>121922918
>>121922901
>I am unable to read
It makes you wonder how Archer survived Gill's assault.
>>121923014
Gil can't aim and Sword-spam is shit
>>121923014
Independent Action stronk.
To his credit, he does also survive 6 rounds against Berserker in Fate, and having his spiritual core cracked in HF, so it isn't too much as an asspull.
>>121922901
Shirou beat Archer in a mental fight. His drive and passion for his ideal started to make him second guess his actions, and ultimately, he, through Shirou, learned that his life, his ideal, and everything he went through wasn't a mistake. It's a twist since throughout the whole story it was Archer acting like it was Shirou who needed to rethink himself, but he was the one who changed.
You have to remember that Archer could have killed Shirou countless times, but didn't, because he wanted to break the kid. He wanted to see his ideals crushed, but Shirou never backed down; his relentless pursuit reignited Archer, and by the end, he had no reason to kill Shirou anymore, because he was right.
>>121922941
What makes him realize his fight is pointless ? If I recall it well he became a guardian just for the sake of killing his younger self
>>121923152
I guess that makes more sense now, thanks
>>121923179
No, he became a guardian to save people in a specific situation in his life. He thought it was a good deal, because it meant he'd get to help people even after he died. He wasn't explained the details though, and that led to him living through countless scenarios of him having to kill for the "greater good", but never actually seeing the good he brings about. It was basically his own personal hell.
This made him grow bitter and look back on his life like it was full of mistakes, but Shirou convinces him otherwise. It's not wrong to want to help people, it's not wrong to try and save others; the guy made one huge mistake, which was becoming a Counter Guardian, but with the knowledge has now, Shirou likely wouldn't make the deal, so there was no real reason to kill him anymore.
>>121923179
Wrong. He became a guardian because he thought it meant he'd be able to save even more people...
... Only to regret it very much, as being a guardian wasn't anything like he had hoped.
>>121923281
No problem, a lot of people have questions about the fight because there's a whole lot going on in it. It's probably one of the easiest things to get confused about in the novel.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WYDVN4q.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>121923128
So, I was looking the everyone' stats and saw that Rider has an independent action too. Isn't that only supposed to be Archer exclusive? It certainly doesn't help her in Fate or UBW.
>>121923571
Isn't it that all Archers have IA, but other classes can have it too depending on their story/legend?
>>121923571
She got the inner workings of an assassin type that's for sure.
>>121923571
Independent Action is a class skill for Archer, Saber and Rider.
>>121918362
Alright wiseguys, what's the deal with the gears. Archer has them, but Shirou doesn't. Explain that.
>>121923937
The visuals represent Archer and Shirou's inner worlds. Archer is more clouded, darker, and this might be bullshitting a little, but I guess a little more machine-like due to basically being a tool to Alaya.
Shirou on the other hand is clearer, brighter, and more idealistic
>>121923937
In simple terms it's Ying-Yang one holds hope and the other does not.
>>121922497
Surprisingly, I think he was driving his Subaru. Or it could have just been a blue Ford Fusion seen through clouded brain cells.
Preview of S2's ED
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6p5fmszkfpivbj2/Ring+your+bell.wma
![1352363064078[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/phZ0UhN.jpg "1352363064078[1].jpg")
>>121924670
>It isn't Rise
I dared to dream.
>>121924670
where the fuck did you get this ?
>>121925145
Was probably chilling with Kojima, smoking a ton of weed while brainstorming a subtitle for Revengence 2, when he said "Yu wan sii somu tinge rilu ku I gotu furomu tipo mun?"
>>121922901
Looks like you didn't read until the very end. What a pleb.
>>121917296
>The prelude with old Bilbo is gone.
bruh
>>121917568
>that love triangle
>good
Holy fuck, I never actually say this, but you truly have shit taste.
>>121924670
What the fuck, how is this possible.
>>121923937
Pretty sure Shirou's does have them, but they're high up in the sky. At least a couple images portray it that way.
>>121924670
Do we know who's doing the OP? I don't want another generic cookiecutter harem poprock OP.
>>121925666
No official art has ever done that.
>>121925772
Aimer.
>>121925544
>>121923937
Much better than the recycled A/Z song they used for first cour.
>>121925816
Sick. Makes up for the lackluster OP we had earlier.
>>121925855
>Much better
Eh, only slightly better. It doesn't sound as generic as the first cour's ending for sure, but it still sounds plain.
>>121925810
There's this, where ever the image is from and the Vita UBW opening where the gears start to overlap into Shirou's higher up in the air. Nothing super-definitive, but it's there.
>>121926128
Ah, it's a Last Episode CG. So yeah, unless it's symbolic to represent something in LE only, the gears are probably there regularly.
>>121923711
Wut? Which Sabers have IA? Or Riders other than Medusa for that matter?
>>121926128
Looks more like a mixture of Shirou's and Archer's UBW. Starts out looking like Shirou, but instead of the red sky there's Archer's gears and bleak grayness.
>>121926468
It doesn't really look bleak or anything. It's just a giant horizontal pillar of gears that extends off into the distance. It fits with the whole iron forging theme of it.
>>121926128
>>121926468
UBW changes with the mentality of Shirou, the one we see in UBW route is the UBW of a determined albeit still naive 18 year old Shirou. In LE we have a veteran Shirou, his maturity probably reflects in the RM.
>>121926701
LE Shirou has absolutly nothing to do with UBW Shirou
>>121927100
UBW Shirou is the only Shirou to have used UBW, which is why I used him as a reference point.
