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>people
Only six billion?
6 BILLION PEOPLE SINKING ON SHIP
PUT HALF ON A SHIP AND DROWN THE OTHER SHIP
3 BILLION PEOPLE SINKING ON A SHIP
it's awfully /pol/ in here
>>121562543
and?
still there are 1.4b people outside.
>>121562543
[X] Kill all of them so that the rest of the world can leave in peace.
Kiritsugu is literally reddit.
>m-muh utilitarianism!!
Eat a dick
>>121562543
>six billion
someone post that webm of Kiritsugu blowing up the K-On plane
The juice did nothing wrong.
>>121566300
that fish has got to be so confused
>>121566300
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>>121566300
why would someone ever do that
I mean, the guy holding the fish
what the fucking fuck
>>121566075
Reddit's reactionary liberal as fuck
Being utilitarian would require too much thought for them.
>>121566300
Well, at least he isn't fucking a dolphin or shitting on a crying baby.
>>121566300
>Gen Urobuchi meets his fans
>not anon takes the bait
>not Lelouch and Suzaku go fishing
2/10 anon
>>121566374
you can't be more clearly if you want someone to post It
>>121566385
>>not anon takes the bait
>>121566300
I wonder how much that kid regrets this.
I mean, it was recorded, you can see his face, on the internet.
>>121566374
Did someone just say "fucking a dolphin"?
>>121562543
OY GEVALT
Kiritsugu did nothing wrong.
>>121566826
crossboarder shit leave
If you think the global population should total anything more than 500 million pure white human beings, then you're dead wrong. :^)
>>121562543
He made the right choice.
>>121562543
>>121566800
>>121567735
kiritsugu best character
>>121567728
The world can support more than 500 million.
>>121562543
Couldn't he just have wished for something else instead?
>>121567910
>not Zouken
You know it's true.
>>121562543
>muh six billion
>>121569332
what is that supposed to mean
>>121570659
The number of "six million" Jews suffering was used consistently before the Holocaust.
>>121566281
>>121570722
based anon delivers
>>121570722
>All of those seagulls
Everytime.
>>121570722
I want to find the person who made this and hug the fuck out of them.
![[UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_01_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][50256238].mkv_snapshot_43.42_[2015.02.21_02.15.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZboY2Ik.jpg "[UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_01_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][50256238].mkv_snapshot_43.42_[2015.02.21_02.15.02].jpg")
>Zouken will never be your grandpa
>>121572456
How the hell was the senile raisin the one person who had his head straight in the Fourth War?
>>121570722
That is amazing
all jumpin' out their seat?
>>121572530
Even in his senility, he was still smart for 2/3rds of F/SN.
>>121572530
>had his head on straight
>let his son be the Matou participant even though he didn't have a chance at winning just because he liked to see Kariya suffer
It was pretty full retard actually. If Kerry didn't blow up the grail someone else would have gotten their hands on it and there probably wouldn't have been a 5th war.
>>121572979
Zouken already knew the Grail was busted. It was confirmed to him the moment Caster's nature became apparent.
Zouken was a cool looking motherfucker back 500+ years ago. He's likely had 50+ kids in that time span
>>121573321
Who knew he was Zero Lancer?
>>121573432
Zouken is the blue man.
>>121572979
>>let his son be the Matou participant even though he didn't have a chance at winning just because he liked to see Kariya suffer
>It was pretty full retard actually.
That just means he's an asshole, not that he's retarded.
>>121569332
Might as well have uploaded this.
>>121573696
The information is too concentrated to be read, though.
>>121566300
I think the guy holding the fish is more fucked up.
Why didn't they just use a train instead?
>>121566075
>utilitarian
Are you kidding? The entire internet-activist zeitgeist is about muh rights and ideological kitsch.
>>121569332
>MUH HITLER DIDN"T KILL DA JEWS
OK, I guess Kristalnacht and documented slave labour was all a big misundertanding too
>>121569332
>implying anyone has ever bothered to read that thing
>>121574218
The Kristalnacht never happened.
>>121574266
So all of those photoes were doctored by the Nazis to perpetuate the myth they hated Jews? Why?
>>121574318
for shits and giggles
>>121566075
>utilitarian
Fuck no. They're libtards to the bone. And don't pretend that utilitarians aren't right, dumbass feelfaggot.
>>121574330
I really want that to be true
>>121574318
Rommel was mad because Hitler had beaten him at mahjong, so he decided to get revenge by slandering him. He also faked his own death to make it look more convincing.
>>121574458
Seems legit
>>121574345
>right
Do you mean correct or conservative?
We're actually at 7 billion now.
>>121574590
Correct, far right wingers are just as bad as useless faggot leftist hipsters.
>>121574667
>mfw dickheads think Fascism is right wing
Where did this idea even come from? They love the welfare state
>>121574768
Fascism means nazis now.
>>121574801
Even then Hitler was pretty keen on a welfare system
>>121574667
Utilitarianism doesn't really work with political parties in general. Laws are deontological from the outset.
>>121574768
Idiots equate everything they don't like to something that sounds bad. Hitler, ISIS, conservatives etc.
>>121574801
Hitler was far more merciful to his own people than Mussolini ever was.
God, Kiritsugu is such an unlikeable, shitty character.
>>121574855
>>121574908
But nazis is extreme rightwing.
Don't you know anything?
>>121574318
treating Jews badly and being antisemitic =/= killing 6 million jews
![[JacobSwaggedUp] Fate Zero S2 - 06 (BD 1280x720).mp4_snapshot_20.11_[2014.11.09_12.19.27].png](https://i.imgur.com/HafLE7M.jpg "[JacobSwaggedUp] Fate Zero S2 - 06 (BD 1280x720).mp4_snapshot_20.11_[2014.11.09_12.19.27].png")
>>121574911
Kiritsugu dida lotwrong.
>>121574911
He did what he had to for the greater good, even at the expense of himself. He followed a virtuous path of self sacrifice right to his very last day.
He's not enviable in the slightest, but he was a man among men.
>>121574964
He's responding to someone who claimed Kristalnacht didn't happen. Go back to /pol/.
>>121574952
Where did any of us contradict that?
>>121575001
and I'm responding to both of them.
>>121574908
>Hitler was far more merciful to his own people than Mussolini ever was.
>We lost the war because I'm a fucking idiot, so please kill them all by destroying all the infrastrutcuire
Great guy
>>121574952
Tell me how, National Socialism is closer to Socialism then Conservative governemnt
>>121574964
And where did I say he killed MUH 6 MILLION?
Fuck this thread.
>>121575066
The welfare state is the ideal of any socialist group. Socialists are by definition right wingers.
>>121575127
Pic related
>>121575163
No
>>121575127
Fuck you
>>121575130
>MUH HITLER DIDN"T KILL DA JEWS
>OK, I guess Kristalnacht and documented slave labour was all a big misundertanding too
>too
you say it yourself, m8
>>121575127
>filename
>>121575191
Yeah, meant to say left. Brainfart.
>>121575209
I never put a figure on it, I think you'd have to be pretty fucking retarded to deny he didn't kill any Jews when shit like the Warsaw Uprising happened.
>>121575066
>Tell me how
People.
>>121574768
It's described right-wing in the sense that it values traditional conservative idealism and nationalism. When people refer to left and right political tendencies now, they usually refer to the desire to preserve morality (the right) or to change it (the left).
In the traditional and more important sense, fascism is most definitely left-wing in it being an extreme form of collectivism; I think its key difference (as I see it) is that fascism often worships the idea of a national identity while communism worships the state and shared industry as a lauded practicality.
Anyway, Kiritsugu is a shitty character that takes Bentham's sophistic reductionist view of the world seriously. I find it hard to believe that someone as capable as him, and with such specific knowledge of magic and technology, etc. would take such a childish view of reality seriously.
>>121574895
This guy knows, though I'd add that modern political parties like to portray themselves as utilitarians simply using prudent policies to bring out desirable outcomes for everyone; which is just a way of justifying their own preferences to other people.
it's quite wacky.
>>121575256
>you'd have to be pretty fucking retarded to deny he didn't kill any Jews
no one is denying that, what I'm denying is that a jewish genocide happened at the hands of the Nazis. We're they treated like shit? yes. Were they sent to camps? yes. Did many jews die in those camps? yes. Did anywhere 6 million jews die in those camps? no. Were the deaths that did happen genocidal in nature? no.
>>121575066
>Tell me how, National Socialism is closer to Socialism then Conservative governemnt
Nationalization of industry, robust welfare for the German people, suspension of individual liberty for citizens, war to enrich the populace (See: German Jews).
NS government was highly involved with the state in every facet of life.
Conservative government is simply more hands-off. It's about protecting individual liberty at the expense of utilitarian structuring.
"Conservative" government is incredibly vague and virtually meaningless in the context that you're using it anyway. NS was "conservative" in the sense that it yearned for an idealized sense of what it meant to be part of the German Volk.
>>121575305
>It's described right-wing in the sense that it values traditional conservative idealism and nationalism
Except it wanted to abolish the Junker class who were the basis of the Conservatives in that era, quite similar to Communisms abolishment of the nobilty less than 20 years earlier
>>121575396
Then you admit he still killed Jews? So why are you so flustered I suggested he did? The fugure is surely less than 6 million but he still used the cunts in armaments manifactories and worked them to the bone
Why don't he just put the people on the lifeboats
>>121575305
>Anyway, Kiritsugu is a shitty character that takes Bentham's sophistic reductionist view of the world seriously. I find it hard to believe that someone as capable as him, and with such specific knowledge of magic and technology, etc. would take such a childish view of reality seriously.
He almost feels like a strawman argument on it.
>>121574911
Kiritsugu a shit.
Ideals aside, he was an asshole and never had to face the consequences of it. On top of that his backstory is retarded. And he's manpain central. What a shitty character indeed.
kerry did nothing wrong and he isn't edgy
>>121575509
>Conservative government is simply more hands-off
No it isn't, conservatives get hard as fuck over tariffs and export duties, Libs are the ones who beleive in shitlike free trade
>>121575684
>I'ma kill erryone
A bit edgy, let's be fair
>>121575738
he barely killed anybody
>>121574995
I like how kerryfags hold the idea that Kiritsugu's ideals were good so that automatically excuses him of how much of a self-centered douchebag he is throughout the show.
>>121575784
>Kills Fastwheels and hjis waifu in the most edgecunt way possible
>Shoots and kills COOL-sama
>Kills 300 people, his waifu and his daiughteru in his fantasy
I think Kerry has the highest kill count in Zero besides team COOL
>>121575517
And? the "Holocaust" or "all consuming fire" is a fucking myth then. There wasn't a genocide.
The Holodomor was a genocide.
Japanese war crimes were a genocide.
Rwanda was a genocide.
Did Jews die in the process of the war? yes. bet the holocaust is a myth perpetuated by jews to use as a "get out of jail" free card so that they can have the perpetual sympathy of the world. Why do you think despite apparently not even being the largest genocide it's the one we see the most media coverage over? Jews have a racket on the Holocaust hence why they don't want anyone denying it or belittling it by making movies/books/tv shows about worse genocides.
The Jewish media uses the purported tragedy of the holocaust and the suffering of their own people to line their own pockets; it's sick.
>>121575886
It really does. He averted an apocalypse by killing those zombies. Though it stands to reason that things might have been better if he had not destroyed the grail.
>>121575127
Good one.
>>121575738
>No it isn't, conservatives get hard as fuck over tariffs and export duties, Libs are the ones who beleive in shitlike free trade
The problem is that you're thinking of this in terms only of modern American politics.
Classical conservatism is about minimizing state involvement, and has more to do with classical liberalism than modern liberalism has to do with the latter at all.
Also, I don't know where you got the idea that modern American liberals like free trade. They're all about state involvement in commerce and regulation of such.
Globalism is loved by all, because both of these positions are really just postured inventions for a plutocratic party that's been in power since the late 70's, and globalism is great for keeping labor costs dismal.
It's best not to think of political polarities as being on a single continuum anyway, anon. You're falling into their hands by doing that.
>>121575928
>Japanese war crimes were a genocide.
>Executing deserters is now genocide
Lies, Mao killed more chinks than the Japs could even dream of
Why didn't Natalia just bring a parachute?
>>121575305
>communism worships the state
>Triggering my autism
>>121575898
yeah but he wasn't wrong with killing them because kayneth was evil, and caster and his master were evil too. the others died an honourable sacrifice
>>121575898
COOL was killing, raping and mutilating lolis. Kerry did good.
>>121576044
Why didn't Fastwheels wheel faster?
>>121575898
Ironically, yes.
With the difference that team COOL were actually having a good time and got a nice resolution for their issues before dying, while Kerry kept being delusional until the very end and his life ended in misery because of it.
>>121575958
You might want to read this
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Manpain
>>121575928
>Japanese war crimes
>believing communist china
>>121575958
>He averted an apocalypse by killing those zombies.
That's not the reason people think he's a cunt in the first place, though. It just showed how pathetically childish his reasoning for everything was.
He'd kill a room of 200 babies to save 201 rapist niggers, for example. His reasoning doesn't just apply to situations where the only reasonable alternative is so fucking obvious a toddler would figure out the solution, such as the zombie plane.
>>121576087
Who is this guy and why is he all over /jp/?
>>121575898
>>Shoots and kills COOL-sama
That's okay. Kuuru-san died smiling.
>>121575928
>Why do you think despite apparently not even being the largest genocide it's the one we see the most media coverage over
Because it was perpetrated in the middle of civilized Europe by a civilized European people against another and is related forever in the public mind with the most devastating war ever fought.
>>121576087
Kayneth was an asshole, not "evil" per se. He's just a big arrogant bastard who wants to prove he has a huge dick to his waifu, who was equally a bitch.
>>121575995
Here's my basis, Cons like industry in the sense of protectionism and a limited amount of state investment in things like railways and agriculture, Libs like free trade and fucking their industries up the arse with outsourcing and no tariffs to compete with foreign markets. Socialism and later Fascism emerged as a response to this shit. To say Fascism is right wing is as retarded as saying Anarchism is Left-wing, they exist as middle ways to the bullshit that don't really work on a practical level
>>121576229
I think a lot of that has to do with how scientific Nazi Germanies racial policies were, I mean just look at SS recruitment before the foreginers were allowed in. You weren't even allowed to have a filling
>>121576222
God they were edgy.
Kuso thread
>>121576000
they're both genocides and that only serves to prove my point.
Why the fuck don't you think there's a big holywood movie about either event?
>"Mr. Hebrewstein we just got a fantastic script for a film about the chinese genocide under Mao!"
>"Not on my watch, momzer! we cant goy giving the goyim the wrong ideas, ya know! Star of Solomon Studios only produces films in that're best for the interests of Israel and all her children!"
>>121576218
How do you feel about naked wrestling?
>>121576401
I-I don't know.
>>121576229
>most devastating war ever fought
JIDF, PLEASE
>>121576378
But I've seen several docos about it, if people don't care enough to study this shit that's on them, not the Jews
>>121576432
Name one that's worse then, and don't be a fucking retard and slap all the Mongol conquests into one
>>121576218
Go fuck yourself.
>>121576378
So you're breaking the story that there's lots of Jews in Hollywood? Wow.
>>121576424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8qMvfcy8go
How does this make you feel?
>>121576218
He's the lead guy from Flow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1U1Z6PGIM
>>121576222
>Official manga
Why is this allowed?
>>121576346
They were the coolest guys.
>>121576507
>people don't care
"people" don't care about the fucking holocaust either, jews do, shmegegge.
Hollywood gives us shit like Boy in the Striped Pajamas and Schindler's List, people didn't ask for those but Hebrew made them to keep the holocaust ever present in the zeitgeist.
>>121576346
Don't you mean COOOLU!
>>121576545
Holodomor
>>121576684
No, I meanCOOOORU
>>121575615
Thats the point, his there to give Shirou as shitty a start on moral theory as possible, Kuzuki and Kotomine are the same- perfect followers of a retarded ideology (although since Kotomine is just a no strings attached consequentialist he at least comes off as consistent).
In universe this is justified by the fact that obsession begets magic begets the power to actually carry through on that obsession (Uknown Armies if you're into tabletop RPGs) all mages having a somewhat warped worldview as a direct result of following through on their magic research and gaining awareness of the inner workings of their soul (knowing you're destined to become a killer tends to gravitate you towards the moral system where such a thing is permissible).
There's also the fact that the universe is rife with the sort of eldritch horror that justifies the career choice of professional hitman over a doctor for humanitarians- malaria being a diseas made up by the west to cover up all the monsters running around in subsaharan africa and what not.
>>121576640
Did they make a basket out of a rib cage?
>>121576263
>To say Fascism is right wing is as retarded as saying Anarchism is Left-wing, they exist as middle ways to the bullshit that don't really work on a practical level
I agree in a way. It's that these things can swap positions on different left-right dichotomous scales. For example: Anarchism is pretty decidedly right-wing when it comes to valuing the individual over the collective. It's rather leftist in that (in most of its resultant philosophical offshoots) it does not value property, since the protection of property requires some sort of collective authority with the power of final arbitration.
I agree completely that implementation of any of these political philosophies can never be done fully or at any practical level, though. Even discussing it is basically a pleasant form of mental masturbation for the sake of discourse.
By the way, I'm a big proponent of Saber's Fat Rumpism.
>>121576720
That wasn't even a war.
>>121575898
>>121576545
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll
At least this guy tried to save more people than Kiritsugu.
Reminder Kerry did literally nothing wrong and can't be blamed for being deceived about the grail
>>121576640
No wonder Waver lost his boyish moe after the war.
>>121576795
>war
Can you people not fucking read?
>>121576795
He was talking about wars learn to read.
>>121576676
Striped Pajamas is a superior film to Shitcunts List, undoutably some Jews died in work camps and I have no problem with that as a film storyline, I just wish they weren't so fucking preachy about it
>>121576720
Not a war, kill yourself
>>121576795
I highly doubt the Congo Wars statistics, did they even have a census before it?
>>121576823
He was still retarded though.
>>121575958
Yeah, but you can't blame people for disliking him if he treats everyone around him like shit and the idiot of his wife and lover still devote themselves to him and puts his needs above everything else. Because that's obviously how people work, they either devote their lives to you, and never complain about your treatment of them regardless of how shit it is. God forbid Maya and Iri complaining to Kiritsugu that he can treat them with a bit of respect (specially Maya) and not think of them as mindless tools or retarded parrots.
Also because every person he has faced is put in a ridiculously cartoonish villain light. Obviously his dad is to blame for the zombie apocalypse even though the story never brings up that Shirley shouldn't have messed up with an experiment. Or that Natalia wasn't all that good of a role model/motherly figure, or that the plane scene could have gone a different way. Because OBVIOUSLY everything has to be set in a perspective where poor innocent Kerry is a victim to assholes over and over again until he's left crying in a corner over the thousand corpses of beautiful women that sacrificed themselves for him for no good reason at all because they were barely characters. And that's why he has the complete right to treat everyone like shit. And everyone, in turn, have to put up with it because that's how Kerry's allies have to behave.
How much the narrative was so obsessed with making him look like a poor victim that went through tough shit and that totally gave him the right to be an asshole to everyone (and how everyone HAD to put up with it without every talking back) was the very thing that made him unsympathetic. I couldn't care less if his dream was world peace, the guy was a douchebag and somehow he always got away with it.
>>121576823
Reminder Kerry is a sick fuck who raised Iri from 1 years old to fuck her and make his new loli
>>121576775
fuck, you're right. Sory, I misread.
Straight numbers wise? yes, you're right but when you look at the percantegs of people killed and different population sizes it's not the most devastating war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
Kerry's Ideals > Shirou's Ideals
>>121576973
No, it is literally the most devasating war in history, if you're being a demographics fag I suppose New Zeland in WW1 is the worst
>>121576676
No, they made them because they're Jews and care about the Holocaust. It isn't a conspiracy, it's interest in their ethnic history. If Hollywood were full of South Sudanese, we'd have a bunch of documentaries about that right now. If it were full of Congolese, Mobutu would be the SJW boogeyman.
>>121576881
The Congo Wars aren't listed there. Do you mean the Leopold bit?
>>121576728
I get the feeling you actually think Nasu is a good writer
>>121576881
Striped pajamas is the ultimate hebrew trickery movie
>those evil Nazis lying to everyone about the camps, even their own family!
>claims shit like the soccer fields and swimming pools were faked
>story about children to make it more emotionally effecting
>le gas chambers meme
>Evil Nazi father gets a taste of his own medicine when his son gets killed in an absolutely retarded way
>edgemaster Holocaust denial in an Emiya "the Edgelord" Kiritsugu thread
I am not surprised. Kuso thread.
>>121576984
What about MoS?
>>121576894
Nope
>>121577079
I get the feeling you haven't watched paradox spiral
>>121577116
MoS is just "Kerry 2: Electric Boogaloo".
>>121576984
>Save everyone
>Save everyone in front of me
Nope, of the two of them, Shirou's was less retarded.
>>121576964
Based
>>121577096
>wanting to save the world is edgy
>>121566365
>reactionary liberal
What? Those are opposites.
>>121577125
Yep
>>121576973
I like how the human sacrifice section seems to think it's reasonable to compare Jonestown to centuries-long cultural ritual sacrifice.
>>121577079
> tmfags
> not delusional
There was one thread a few weeks ago where TMfags were arguing Nasu was on the same literally level as Tolkien. Don't bother with them, those guys are far off the end.
>>121577078
>Do you mean the Leopold bit?
Yes, I highly doubt chopping ninggers hands off because MUH QOUTAS resulted in 5 million deaths, let alone 22 million. Fuck the Germans probably wiped out more in Namibia
>>121577174
Okay, then I'll say that F/Z itself is edgy.
Why are UBW/HFfags so insanely butthurt over Zero and Kiritsugu?
>>121577081
>le gas chambers meme
I think this is the ultimate form of the meme meme.
>>121576964
>Fucked a hot homunculus
>Made best girl in the process
NOTHING WRONG
>>121576964
And then he still cheats on her.
How about we stop talking about things that are not /a/-related
Do you guy think we can do that
>>121577213
Tolkien isn't as good or original as a lot of people make out, that said he does far better world building than Nasus comstant flip-flop power-level shit
>>121577227
Nope, you just have a fucked up sense because your view is warped by all the coddling tripe you consume
F/Z is 100x closer to how an actual Grail _WAR_ would go down and is thus Realistic, which to your fucked up brain is edgy.
You probably think Saving Private Ryan is edgy.
>>121577300
read the thread
also,
>caring about the rules
>>121577313
>F/Z is 100x closer to how an actual Grail _WAR_ would go down
What the fuck are you basing this on? There's no "normal" grail war, they're all colossal fuckups.
>>121577300
Don't you think is a bit too late for that?
How fast would they win the war?
