TPP Negotiation: Japan and EUA agree the copyright violation will not be
"offense subject to prosecution only on complaint (from the victim)."
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20150211/k10015379371000.html
1. Japan is actually "Jail when victim complain copyright violation."
Obviously, getting yen or not, doujins and fanfictions/fan ilustrations works that way.
2.Japan have no fair-use. There are even a judicial decision what denies the fair-use.
ラストメッセージ in 最終号事件.
It's an decision about the book what makes an collection of "last messages on the last publications".
Authors got guilty.
3. Japan have "Complaint mania", "indictment mania". People what makes complaint/indictment for fun and lulz.
They just makes complaint/indictment anything to police like shoting 5 miniguns at same time.
I'm actually seeing tons of japaneses pissed on 2ch right now.
>>121136329
When it become "no need of victim's complain", what happens:
1. Police goes full "Jeff, start the van. We got work to do." by Complaint mania or by thenselves.
2. Asshole mangaka and asshole lawer: "we are getting more money sueing anything than drawing a manga!"
3. Just immagine the America without fair-use.
>>121136339
I don't need to imagine the US.
In my country anybody can sue, not just the victims. Certain lawyers have specialized on this kind of thing and make a lot of money on copyright infringement.
>>121136329
>TPP Negotiation: Japan and EUA agree the copyright violation will not be
>"offense subject to prosecution only on complaint (from the victim)."
Shit.
>>121136329
tl;dr:
Doujin is kill
Prepare for the manga industry to be the same repetitive unending bullshit ala Marvel/DC crap.
tl;dr;dr:
White people ruin everything again, why can't china attack japan yet? At least they'll be xenophobic and nationalistic again, and would tell the us to fuck off.
>>121136643
>>121136339
>>121136329
//po// was right. where is your fedora now, SJW fags?
>>121136807
>japs
>not xenophobic and self-absorbed nationalist.
pick one, poor baiter
>>121136807
>doujin is kill
Doujin "artists" are talentless hacks.
>manga industry repetitive
So nothing will change?
>>121136937
You don't know shit about manga.
Though I'm not entirely sure why >>121136807 thinks manga will be destroyed.
>>121136937
>Doujin "artists" are talentless hacks.
Why?
This is fucking stupid, who allowed that ?
>>121136998
I don't know any good doujins. It's just cheap fap material and other crappy fanfictions.
>>121137064
>I don't know anything
ftfy
>>121137107
>I'm easily amused
>>121136937
As bad as the manga industry can be its still way better than US's one
>>121136807
At least there are some effort to maintain the actual state.
>>121136937
They have originality. But don't expect people interacting.
They would need more social skills than drawing skills for it.
>>121137129
The fact that you don't know that lots of doujinshi are neither fanfics nor fap material betrays your ignorance.
>>121137195
So? This new law won't target them. And I doubt they are particularly good anyway.
>>121136924
>Japan
>not a bunch of self-hating westaboos
Showa era nationalists called, they told you they gave up on the dream and you should too.
>>121137051
Oh hey, you like that 2hou/kankolle doujin? TOUGH. Pay me fucking royalties
>>121137064
Frazetta is talentless, yeah. You're right.
>>121137246
You're an idiot. Stop posting.
>>121137277
I don't think Zun understands the concept of money.
>>121137283
Well, your picture looks like shit.
Look on the bright side, it might actually be very interesting to see a comiket only with original works.
>>121137302
Just say that masturbating is your favorite hobby. There is nothing good or creative about manga doujin industry.
>>121137249
Witches?
>>121137305
That doesn't matter, now anybody can sue you for using touhou and just skip right over zun's head.
>>121137305
Then ZUN will get sued for money with the implication he's the one violating doujin author's copyright.
>>121137344
50% porn, 50% shitty 4komas/comedies. Nothing will change.
Anime fans are the least creative people on Earth.
>>121137402
Why are you in this thread if you hate doujins? This doesn't concern you at all. Nobody cares about your opinion.
>>121137367
Where do you think you are ?
>>121137367
Drawer getting money or not, the doujin and amateur fan illustrations is incubator for new mangakas and ilustrators.
This shit affects even who draws without getting money since JAPAN HAS NO FAIR USE.
>>121137402
>>>/co/
>>121136937
>>121137064
>>121137367
The /co/ification continue. It's just a matter of time isn't it?
>>121137339
What about this doujin artist?
>>121137482
Yeah that is true, if I'm not wrong Nichibros creator started in the doujin scenario and that is reason enough to want to keep it alive for me
>>121137482
>This shit affects even who draws without getting money since JAPAN HAS NO FAIR USE.
Whatever. They can draw "original" characters.
>/co/
Why?
>No Kiss of the Dead #6 with a threesome
Congratulations for being stupid again Japan.
>Secret Flowers 8 never
>>121137524
He's just a cheap troll
>>121137673
Honestly, this past few day/weeks the retardation level on /a/ is way off the chart, won't surprise me if we are being raided.
This is absurd.
Just start sue each others for food pics and photo as protest.
>>121137710
It's hard to say but I almost miss the Fatefags
>>121137541
Those who are drawing not for money are drawing for interations.
They need something draw and interact, and obviously like it.
When you are drawing original only, you are almost alone with your own work.
When you draw copyrighted characters, you can meet tons of drawers and have fun with then.
>>/co/
>Why?
Because anime is considered "not original" because
1: "cuteness over 'unique at any cost' design" 2:"Lack of photorrealism".
>>121137710
It's always the same times of day that it happens, too. It's probably just a few of our resident shitposters trying a new angle now that everyone got tired of responding to NTR and cuck threads.
>>121137064
Read original non-H doujin then, you fucking piece of shit retard.
>>121137838
Recommend me something.
Europe is a blight. Are they trying to push us back into the dark ages with all this hegemonic PC bullshit? No, Britain. No, Sweden. No, Germany. Fuck off
>>121136329
It's just negotiation, it will most likely fail.
>>121137776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDRVaLcOc0o
>>121137950
Wow do you want me to lick your ass clean as well? Fuck you retard, it's your problem now.
You can start by searching the non-H tag on sadpanda you know?
>>121137810
>>121137710
It's shitposters-samefags /b/.
I was "permabanned" by Global Rule 14 after I posted my recommendation of comics for anon.
So wait, they're working to rid Japan of fair use, or are they actually trying to bring in somewhat reasonable fair use laws?
>he doesn't like my fanfictions!
>h-he must be a shitposter!
Pathetic.
>>121138136
Try reading.
>>121136866
//po// is never right. They make origami, for fuck's sake.
>>121138098
>spoonfeeding
You got what you deserved.
>>121138173
Reading the broken english posts?
>>121138025
They've been "negotiating" this trade deal for ten years. Only megacorps want it. I'd be shocked if it passed.
>>121138010
Next level:
>original work
Sue for plagiarism.
>>121138220
Yeah, I actually looked into it and saw how retarded it was.
>>121137064
Doujin artists are always picked up by the actual anime/manga/game industries. Doujin artists hone their skills to a professional caliber all the time. A lot of doujins are far better made than many manga.
>>121138156
>s-stuttering
>exclamations
>exclamations on greentext
>>121138025
Well Abe is pretty fucking serious about the TPP, and since this is a multi-national treaty instead of localized populist bullshit like the Tokyo Youth Ordinance, I'd say the Japanese gov would be pressured to implement TPP if they do sign it.
Surprisingly our only hope lies with the fact that most old japanese farmer hate the TPP, and they got pretty strong lobby with LDP.
>>121138136
Japan has never had fair use laws. The doujin scene exists because no IP holders want to commit the PR suicide and sue the people that are actively marketing their work. The doujin culture is their market, so they generally just look the other way as they produce parodies and whatnot, because it effectively sells their franchise for them. It's not codified in positive law, it's just a sort of unspoken agreement.
The new law allows someone who is not the IP holder, and not affiliated with the IP holder to charge someone for breaching copyright law. SO now, even if the IP holder looks the other way because they encourage the doujin community, some jew can come along and sue the doujin circle, harming both the doujin scene and the IP holder at the same time and make a sweet profit off of the inevitable settlement.
It's essentially legislation aimed deliberately at killing off the otaku market.
Fucking feminists.
Who the hell think this is a good idea?!
Comiket will be destroyed and manga publisher companie will suffer of it
>>121137980
God listen your words, son.
>>121138136
There are no fair use from the beguinning.
The fair use itself was no needed since copyright infringiment was and still is "offense subject to prosecution only on complaint (from the victim)."
Being connivance is good for companies what don't want to say "OK for fan-things" but don't want to make the fans pissed but it forces the compannies to make rules for fan-productions.
>>121138220
>>121138247
Well Abe want it, part of his third arrow reform.
Guess we are lucky the Yakuza/Nuclear Village/and other entrenched local Zaibatsu are preventing that.
May Japan stay corrupt and xenophobic.
>>121138295
>killing off the otaku market
Sounds good to me.
Women ruining everything again. What a surprise!
>>121138156
A doujin is anything that is not under a publishing label. It does not need to have a source material.
All of TM's biggest works were originally doujins.
The way this law works is that the accused will be the one responsible to prove his innocence, so you can get faggots trying to bag you on some vague suspicions of IP violation.
>>121138295
America ruining things again.
How surprising.
China attacking Japan when?
>>121138295
How can you sue someone over someone else's property? It'd be like you letting me shit on the floor of your house and your neighbouring sueing me for shitting on your floor.
>>121137402
Fuck off.
>>121138426
My uncle's friend works for China and he told me soon.
>>121138329
Legbearded bloody vaginas have no hand in this.
They want to ban loli and pixiv, nothing else.
>>121138438
It's already common practice in countries like Germany.
>>121138345
Where can I go to support the yakuza?
>>121138438
The way this works, if I'm not mistaken, is if someone registers an IP or property, they are the sole owner of that IP even if they're not the original creator.
Mind you, I'm probably wrong but that's what I picked up.
Either way, it only benefits the mega-corps and not many of the smaller groups who rely on stuff like doujins and fanworks to keep things fresh in the minds of fans.
>>121138475
So normals then?
>>121138261
Except it's meeting similar roadblocks everywhere else. No point in a multinational trade treaty if the nations you're trying to trade with back out.
>>121138475
It's always the feminists. Them and the jews.
>>121138438
Anything goes if you want to make a profit, even shameless ones
>>121138438
You can even sue someone for photo.
No one has right to photograph of you without your permission.
You can register word you like as your own. It's legit
>>121138546
No, it's big corps, anti-piracy fanatics and leftists that are trying to pass this bullshit.
>>121138345
>>121138261
Bless our average Eleven fisherman, farmer and yakuza. May they live for 100 years with the power of raw fish.
>>121136329
Go back to /pol/
>>121138335
>Who the hell think this is a good idea?!
The government that wants to both destroy the otaku subculture because "muh youth are living their lives incorrectly" and the entirety of japan's non-live action multimedia industry because "we don't understand why people like this, so it's wrong".
The government thinks that killing off this huge multimedia industry will be good for the economy because they don't understand how economy works and have never been able to generate effective economic policy.
Japanese politics are comical. They're a country that's gotten by based largely on massive economic support and trade favouritism by the US and the rest of NATO, and because massive amounts of capital were simply flowing into their country, the government itself has never had any real responsibility to do anything. That bubble burst in the 90's and ever since they've been floundering, unable to let go of the old habit of just doing whatever the fuck they pleased and getting away with it because they were irrelevant to the economy of their own nation.
Japan is the coddled child that is now middle-aged and still doesn't know how to do their own laundry.
>>121138540
>The way this works, if I'm not mistaken, is if someone registers an IP or property, they are the sole owner of that IP even if they're not the original creator.
Not the point.
If that was how it worked you would still be the victim and not a random bystander.
I'm just going to assume this is pointless paranoia and conspiracy theory bullshit until something actually happens.
>>121138345
Japanese democracy a best democracy.
>>121138406
Higurashi and type moon are good examples.
But after this one we will need more Zuns for many gernes.
I mean, if companies don't makes clear rules for fan creations,
eastearn fantasy's touhou only is not enough to get all the otakus.
We will need western fantasy genre's"touhou", science fiction genre's "touhou", robot genre's "touhou"
Higurashi and type moon was "touhou" in it's own genre but since they get published under a label, they stopped being "touhou".
Can someone post manga about COPYRIGHT POLICE.
I remember some threads in /a/. On first volume's cover was man in bag on the head.
>>121137973
>>121136807
what does europe or white people have to do with japan being retarded
>>121138626
It'll be too late when something does happen.
>>121138693
>Higurashi and type moon was "touhou" in it's own genre but since they get published under a label, they stopped being "touhou".
What?
>>121138702
Not like I was going to do anything, anyway.
>>121138702
We can't change anything anyway so what is your point?
>>121138693
The only reason why Touhou never went under a label is because zun likes his freedom and he's a lazy drunk. He dodged a fucking cannon ball by not monetizing on touhou to the best of his ability.
>>121138620
>japan is one big neet
>>121138702
Right on then, I'll take active action starting with this reply. I'll shitpost like never before. FEAR ME JAPAN!
>>121138770
If you cry louder than the SJWs maybe people will start believing what you say.
>>121138743
They got popular and sell merchandise
I can only hope there is a huge backlash that makes sure fandom works are protected by law.
>>121138808
Baka
>>121138699
TPP is an international agreement being pushed super hard by Europe and North America. Japan is falling into line because they can't afford to go against the word of their big white Onii-sama
It's essentially economic imperialism. 'Treaties' like this are a way that the dominant economies of the world impose political policies on weaker economies that depend on favouritism. The reality is that America has more authority over japanese democracy than its own voting citizens.
>>121138819
But they never were Touhou.
>>121138475
>and pixiv
Why?
>>121138841
>The reality is that big American corporations have more authority over [any countries] democracy than the voting citizens.
ftfy
>>121138841
>big white Onii-sama
I think the Onii-bama you're talking about is far from white.
>>121138898
fanart is not legal
>>121138743
Goes merchandize = copyright. Can be sued.
Not going merchandize = fanfic secure.
>>121138941
>Onii-bama
Well played
>>121138954
I get feminists hating loli, but what do feminists have to do with unauthorized use of intellectual propriety? If anything, it should be the big corps who are on that too.
How big are chinese cartoons in Japan's GDP ?
>>121138898
Because the politicians they allied themselves with want to see pixiv burn, that's why.
One thing you need to understand about feminists and all other SJW subgroups is that they will rarely ever agree on all points of anything. Because they are desperate to gain more support to their individual core causes they tend to band up with people with similar motives, but completely different core causes and thus their morals and ideas may clash. However most of the time they end up supporting bullshit they don't particularly care for, or even know much about in the first place.
>>121139064
Probably miniscule. Technology and cars is where its at.
>>121139121
Ah, that makes sense.
>>121139064
Tiny, I'm sure. I would assume they're one of their largest cultural exports, though.
>the first posts
is typing in broken English a meme?
>>121139037
Big corps are behind feminism 100%, anon.
>>121139178
Some people are not native English speakers. The more you know.
>>121138867
They were doujin games like touhou. Are you even reading the posts you're replying to?
>>121139121
Plus for the most part the label is a corporate one that gullible tools rally behind. What sane marketing firm wouldn't want to make anything come across as moral-highground, designate a space where criticism of any kind is politically incorrect, and hypnotize bored youth on the internet into doing their advertising for them.
It's probably the best marketing tool of the 21st century, which is no doubt distressing to the radical core of the movement who plant their roots firmly in marxist soil.
>>121138841
>big white Onii-sama
I read that as big white Obama. Had a chuckle.
>>121139037
fanart being illegal have nothing with feminism.
It's illegal because copyright infringiment.
But since copyright infringiment is "offense subject to prosecution only on complaint (from the victim)", there are no problem... yet.
>no parody doujins
No point in watching anime anymore, is there?
>>121139178
OP is BR.
Don't expect all people around the world be able to speak an perfect english.
>>121139357
I'm BR and I think it should be common sense to expect people to post at least comprehensible Englishunless they're Japanese.
>>121139321
Is boatsluts killed? People can just sue on behalf of kadokawa and Dmm for shekels?
>>121139423
Boatsluts will die if this thing comes into play, which in itself is a good thing, but not at this price.
Fujoshis make the most doujins and no one can go against them.
>>121139423
Yes, the irony being that defending the IP on Kadokawa's behalf will kill the game and the franchise in general with absolute certainty.
So much of the industry owes its marketability to the activity of doujin culture. Take that out and exposure dries up
>>121139386Já me disseram antes que meu inglês parece de japonês.Isso porque esqueci completamente o portugues uma vez e aprendi japonês. Isto ao mesmo tempo.
>>121139507
Boatsluts allows doujins but forbid fan games with the board sluts.
They just need to make a clear guiddance of what's ok or not.
Despite "making clear rules to use the boatslut" would bring problems to copyright holders.
>>121139064
>How big are chinese cartoons in Japan's GDP ?
2007: The animation industry in Japan is undergoing impressive growth. Its share in GDP has exceeded 10 percent. No wonder TIME Magazine says Japan is now becoming a big exporter of culture. We take a look at how Japan's animation industry has developed.
http://www.cctv.com/program/asiatoday/20070412/103616.shtml
If I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't even require a third-party complaint. The Japanese government could just unilaterally decide to prosecute. So it won't even be a matter of media corps protecting their content, but rather it would be a sword used by the government to cut down anything it sees as undesirable.So even if a corp could benefit from fan works, the government could use the new rules anyways.
>>121136329
>I'm actually seeing tons of japaneses pissed on 2ch right now.
Any samples of said pissage?
I don't get this. Why the fuck would I get money for suing somebody who ripped off somebody else? What's the justification for this? What is this money compensating for? Am I being paid for being a good goy and denouncing the evil of plagiarism?
>>121139705
>So even if a corp could benefit from fan works, the government could use the new rules anyways.
Well they could take a PR-Hit and allow Fanworks to prevent the Goverment from doing that.
>>121139647
When you consider that the animation industry itself is just a smaller appendage of a much larger print industry that services manga, LN's, drama CD's, music and physical merchandise, and that all of these are interwoven , co-dependent and related, it's a pretty damn impressive share of the nation's economy.
And then the government would hamstring this source of income in their already ailing and struggling economic situation because 'muh morals'.
That's so in-character.
>Lots of far superior original books in need of a scan
>Fools from pekingduckburg and sushisland, some even from burgerstan upload tons of doujin instead
Make me happy, tabula rasa this fucking shit. Then, I need one last DMCA from mujin comics and I'm all set, I'll literally throw a party.
Ah, and the doujin market is overrated. The one you think that drives the industry is all non-h and homo. The h/et one, let alone the h one that usually gets uploaded to sadpanda, amounts to fuck-all. People don't buy Amagi dvd because of gook porn, you're fucking delusional.
>>121139705
>The Japanese government
You mean, a third party?
>>121139734
ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!
>>121139705
So basically the govt wants to stop its citizens from being otaku and join the military instead.
>>121139747
Yep.
It's like when you find a purse and you bring it to its original owner and they pay you 10%.
In Germany they tried to limit how much you can earn that way to 170 euro per case, but the lawyers got around that by claiming that their personal wage is at some 700 euro which also needs to be paid - by the wrong-doer.
>>121139771
The problem is that as written they can say they allow fanworks, but the government can say "nope" and go ahead with prosecutions. There would have to be a specific licensed permission in order to avoid that.
>>121139780
Yes and no. The government is a third party in one sense, but not really because it is also the controller of the judicial process.
Let me see if I understand this. Normalfags are slowly trying to destroy and get rid of the only interest that keeps me from killing myself? Fantastic.
>>121139647
>Its share in GDP has exceeded 10 percent.
Don't you mean it has increased by 10% or something?
>>121139778
Why don't you buy the books then, faggot?
Support your favorite artists and authors and buy their shit.
>>121139866
>it is also the controller of the judicial process.
Huh?
I thought that sort of thing was abolished.
>>121139874
No. in 2007, 10% of the total amount of money Japan had earned in a year came from animation.
>>121139870
>Normalfags are slowly trying
It's anything but slow, comrade.
>>121139747
Any potential loss of money is undesirable for these people. Maximizing the profit is where it's at. Also, what's easier? Going after armed robbers or busting some poor junkie and his friends?
It works the same way. Copyright is easy money.
>>121139920
>the total amount of money Japan had earned in a year
That's not GDP, but it sounds just as absurd.
>>121140018
2007 was the best year of Japan's anime golden age. They've been in the dark ages ever since.
>>121139866
>The problem is that as written they can say they allow fanworks, but the government can say "nope" and go ahead with prosecutions. There would have to be a specific licensed permission in order to avoid that.
No. They can give out a blanket License. Case closed. Could even be structured in the Way "everyone gets one, but the author reserves the Right to revoke the license if a list of rules is violated".
This way the Prosecutor would have to ask the Author, if it really is Copyright infringement.
(This will not happen. This Rulechange is just a way to fuck over Authors.)
How many of you even buy doujins?
>>121140018
Japan's economy has been circling the shitter for a while. They retain their spot as #3 largest in the world mainly because they continue their long history of reporting statistics dishonestly.
I hope at least some of you idiots spouting out your opinions in this thread are actually lawyers, because I'm an idiot and I'm just taking what you say as fact.
Thanks jews
>>121140088
I've got like 70 in paper. Even more in digital from places like DLsite and DMM.
Though it's been sort of a doujin dryspell since I got into DMM mobage.
>>121139705
This rule will never get passed. Even if they have lot of Fascist in Diet, the media, neutralist, and isolationist will definitely prevent this law from being passed. And Abe wouldn't last that long anyway. He lost lot of support thanks to ridiculous tax he implemented
>>121140116
>taking something you read on 4chan at face value
Why?
>>121139968
I know, I was asking what was the legal rationale behind me being able to make a profit on a guy I don't know ripping of another guy I don't know.
>>121140088
I'm a newfag and I've bought maybe 40 in the last year. I'd buy a lot more if I had the money to.
>no more doujins
>no more fanart
>ORIGINALITY WILL WIN THE HEARTS OF EVERYONE
Either the industry will crash and burn much faster than it already is or we'll get much more chinese knockoffs of palette swaps.
>>121140116
I have proof-read this thread and I can certify that every single statement so far has been truthful and well-researched.
>>121140166
The whistleblower is entitled to part of the payout, as compensation for being a good samaritan, and to help cover the legal fees involved, since they are footing the bill in place of the IP holder.
Only, they aren't actually good samaritans because they're only blowing the whistle so that they can turn a profit off of somebody else's work.
This is one of those cases of the positive law and full law being in contradiction and the conservative legal system failing to evaluate itself objectively.
>>121140166
Legal is what the people in charge say is legal. Doesn't mean it has to make any sense at all.
I'd say a third party can come along because it allows the actual copyright holder to not deal with. It's like letting other people do you dirty laundry.
>>121140203
2015 the year where Chinese cartoons actually became based in China.
why is this /pol/ shit still here
mods is still asleep?
WAIT
ARE WE LOSING OUR PORN?!
>>121140018
It is absurd. Japan's whole entertainment industry is less than 10% of the economy, and most of that is pachinko. Never trust Chinese statistics for anything
>>121140348
>directly affects /a/
>/pol/ shit
The fuck are you talking about?
>>121140348
>/pol/ shit
It could be the start of the end of all animu for all we know
>>121140360
Yes
>>121140282
New generation chinks are ironically some of the biggest weeaboos out there. If the japanese animation industry ever burns you can bet your ass some chinks like Danny Choo will grab the opportunity to make it a chink industry.
>>121140348
This thread is actually tangentially related to anime.
There's barely any /pol/ shit flying about, only people trying to understand the situation.
Man, 2015 is already shaping up to be such a shitty year, and it just barely started.
>>121140369
Probably a gawker big corp shill. Pay him no mind.
So if this is true. then places that profit off of said merchandise like tora and melonbooks will go out of business?
Good. Fuck them and trying to hog the whole doujin market.
I JUST WANT MY PORN GODDAMIT
>>121140449
Toranoana and melonbooks never did anything of the sort. Mandarake and Nagomi are just as big, dlsite and DMM shit on all of them. Why aren't you giving them any crap?
>>121140449
Are you fucking retarded? They don't hog anything.
>>121140488
All of them should burn. Especially DMM.
>>121140488
DMM is the place I go to to play with boat sluts and castle sluts.
>>121140521
Fuck you, commie.
>doujins die
>new artists cease to exist since no one just can start just selling manga from point 0
>manga industry becomes the same artists over and over again
so instead of capeshit what are we gonna get? endless harems?
>>121140544
Fuck off to your 2D shit. Oh wait I guess that'll be gone soon.
>>121140390
So long as they just send in their Chinese bucks, don't try to change the shape of the market too much and keep the propaganda at bearable levels I'd welcome our new chink overlords.
>>121138782
Suddenly everything makes sense.
>>121140569
Well, at least light novels are still safe.
>>121140525
DMM is a magical place that takes all your money and has you begging for more.
>>121140578
Aren't you on the wrong board, nigger?
>>121140091
I thought it was because the countries behind them are also circling the shitter. Thanks financial collapse, sovereign debt crisis, and austerity.
>>121140569
Manga that start out interesting then quickly become stale as the mangaka desperately wants his thing to be the next 700+ chapter series and rake in cash and goes safe mode instead of the imagination he showed during the first 10 chapters. It'll get axed in chapter 30 and a new guy will replace him.
>>121140488
Mandarake is a reseller, they owned the buyback and aftermarket.
Melonbook, toranoana and their ilk will all go out of biz without the doujin scene
is this another scare like that youth ordinance or is it serious this time?
>>121140604
Too bad the proportion of shit in the LN market makes Comiket seem like a convention of Mozarts.
>>121138199
/po/'s a cool guy, posts once a week and don't afraid of anything. Pls no bully.
>>121140705
TPP is serious business.
>>121140705
Anything that threatens our freedom porn is serious business
>>121140705
It's potentially serious. But it's too soon to throw the towel and give up yet.
>>121140705
This seems like it will be a major problem for Japanese pirates, but international piracy is, as always, impossible to stop.
The absolute worst case scenario: BDs might take slightly longer to get.
>>121138954
I saw some video about a laywerwho works for deviantartand did a lengthy panel about fairuse or whatever, he seemed knowledgeable
>>121140809
>This seems like it will be a major problem for Japanese pirates
what I worried about is doujins though
that is like 95% of all my fap material
>>121140809
No, the absolute worst case scenario is no more comiket and no more anime porn.
>>121140840
Where do you think you get your porn drawings from?
>>121140770
>freedom porn
What does freedom porn look like?
>>121140878
American porn, obviously
>>121140869
>no more anime porn.
So is this law one of those wild proposals that are merely in the pipeline that the press uses for clicks?
Is it actually in effect right now? Have people been jailed yet under it?
If it isn't in effect, how likely is it that the law will be agreed upon, pushed through the government and made into a law?
Is this thread full of 11s? What's with the awful grammar?
>>121140608
>release 2-3 new cards with 1-2 cg each weekly update
>make neets or whales gachaspam for that 2% drop for 500 yen a pop
>add in traditional aspects like paying makes the game go much much faster
>multiply this by at least 20 games
DMM is rolling in cash.
>>121140931
>Read This First
>implying you can read it afterwards
>>121140973
probably either 11's letting us know about this through broken english, or people who don't know japanese and are just pasting google translate versions of the article.
It will be really really hard to execute.
>>121141024
its not like we can do anything but cry.
does this also happen in the US where someone who is not the copyright owner or authorized by them can seek legal action?
>>121140986
20? You mean the top twenty, surely. I had to cut out Taimanin Asagi arena because each update was costing me over 10k yen. That was without the gachas. Fuck the gachas. But on the flip side I've got a lot of really, really rare porn with voice acting like virgin Oboro, or Kiryuu's sister getting tentacled.
>>121141047
It's already happening. Not in Japan though.
>>121141047
Not without the generous help of the lovely Jew. Don't worry, he'll also come with many more helpful friends like America, defender of freedom and children of all types and dimensions.
i just want to say that groups who add this page can get fucked
thanks for having a hand in getting the shecklords to notice
>>121140907
Incoming:The boom of the western manga economy giving rise to artists given the opportunity to fill the gap left by Japan's manga decline.
Stranger things have happened.
>>121141164
fuck you, bolze
making all those goddamn loli doujins..I like them too much
>>121141105
If any of their games have a ranking system, there's no doubt there will be a few whales whaling it out for that 1st place for new cards.
And don't forget, mobile and PC DMM have different games, not to mention there are some different ones between DMM and R18 DMM (though some DMM games can go R18 and vice versa) and there are a fleet of whales for everything.
>>121141164
Yeah, doujin groups trying to claim legal rights on someone else's IP can get fucked with a burning steel rod.
>>121141190
>western manga
Also known as comics.
>>121138620
>The government that wants to both destroy the otaku subculture because
of the Olympics
>>121141313
2020 will truly be the apocalypse, won't it?
I hope they know I won't stand for this crap.
>>121141285
I'm sure you know what I mean.
The difference between east and west comic styles are stark and valid.
>>121141252
Not so much whales, as much as outright bots.
You can be certain that half an hour into an event some faggot will throne at the top of the rankings with more than you can get in your entire run.
It's not physically possible. And then you have the idiots with several maxed out legendary rares and ultra rare cards. With all the thousands I've spent on those damn things I've never gotten a single top tier rare drop via a normal gacha, much less ticket drops. It's a fucking scam.
I have a thought, but it begs the question about the anime/manga industry actually caring about doujin culture and not just being ambivalent towards it. They could literally just license it out to doujin artists under some sort of fair use policy (no royalties for sales under ¥xxxx, original authors need to be credited. Things like that). A doujin artist could just go to the copyright holder's website, fill out a quick form and then they're a license holder and impervious to infringement lawsuits.
>>121141164
It's fine. I fixed it.
>>121141363
The difference between east and east comic styles are stark and valid too.
Let's not even talk about the differences between west and west comic styles. Those are huge.
>>121141164
Did they translate that page?
>>121141164
>who add this page
didn't the artist put that there?
>>121141313
The Tokyo 2020 Olympics will be the end of the anime manga era. As the western world is once again introduced to Japan they will force their SJW beliefs and culture on them and the Nips will fall because with their declining birthrate they will have to depend on foreigners to keep their economy alive. 2020 apocalypse confirmed
>>121141525
>yfw Tokyo 2020 will be a common excuse to go to Japan for weebs across the globe
>>121141525
>>121141374
It's not always botting, most of the games with point rankings will have both
1. People spamming money to quickly refresh "stamina" and go on continuous runs for more points
2. Special cards, usually very high rares, that have x10 point rate that you can get from gacha with a low rate during that time that has durations ranging from a week to even a month.
But yeah its a brilliant way to scam money out of people every week with new cards, new rankings, new updates. Maybe there are a few bots that are in high rankings, but I'm pretty sure most of them are just people shelling out cash.
>>121141525
Good thing I'm going in 2017
I've been saving ever since the olympics were announced
>>121141525
what if it just pushes everything into the digital realm making more things available to us?
You know, if you actually want to do something about this, you could lobby your elected officials in Congress and let them know you don't want them to give Obama fast-track authority for the TPP. Of course, you'd have to use a different reason, like any of the complaints commonly voiced about the draft treaty and drafting process, but I can help brainstorm after I get off work and explain a few things about the treaty-making and US political processes after I get off work in several hours.
>>121141525
>with their declining birthrate they will have to depend on foreigners to keep their economy alive
Will they give me cute Japanese schoolgirl if I immigrate to their country?
>>121141696
Not even Japan wants you
>>121141649
So, a Silkroad of 2D porn?
Ten shekels that nothing will happen at all., which is how these things have always been like.
>>121141696
they are not cute irl
>>121141525
Not if SJWs fall before that. Due to the whole gamergate scandal they've been losing moderate members left and right.
Fuck, as it stands now gamergate is composed of more reformed SJWs than channers. Every time one of those retards says anything stupid, GG is there to parrot,make fun of and spread their bullshit like pic related. It is to the point that SJW is becoming a household term. As long as this continues, we have a chance of beating them.
>>121141388
Well done, take it easy anon.
