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Couldn't find anything in the catalog.
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Aizen is a red herring
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>>118172108
The red herring will be the assumption that he coming back is a red herring.
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What asspull/tweest will Kubo pull on us this week?
I'm not sure i'm prepared for this.
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>>118172328
Yhwach will probably gain the upper had either in the middle or at the end. Yama's Bankai may be involved.
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>>118172722
Sounds plausible.
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yhwach hasnt even used yamamotoas bankai or vollstandig
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>>118172926
And Ichibei hasn't used his Bankai. In all fairness, this battle can only be won by an asspull.
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>>118172926
He can't use them.
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>>118172328
Ain't even gonna lie, Kubo has an amazing skill for art, but has wasted it.
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>>118172926

Bach doesn't know there names
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>>118172722
He can't use Yama's bankai. The badge got splattered with ink, meaning it lost its name and power.
Also, like every other sternritter he wouldn't be able to properly use it on his first fight anyway, so no East/West, only fire and skeletons.

The asspull that will give him victory is going to be something else
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>>118173057
Pretty sure the Bankai medallion is different from the standard Quincy cross.
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>>118173072
What do you think Kubo will do after Bleach? Does he have another idea for a story? Will he fulfill his life long dream of become a fashion designer? Maybe he will retire to Hueco Mexico and marry a qt latina.
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>>118173370
>yfw Kubo marries qt latina in Mexico
>yfw I go on vacation and find out he took residence in my parents pueblo

KUUUUUUBOOOOOO!
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>>118173425
Kubo already married Soi Fon.
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>>118173370
We can only hope for a Zombie Powder reboot.
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>>118173472
>Soi Fon
>Not Rukia

It's as if you don't even know him, anon.
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>>118171601
ywhach gets naked.
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>>118173472
>marrying the worst girl
>marrying a lesbo
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think there's something important on why the Monk said he was the most despised of the Shinigami, and he was the keeper of their darkness. This may be a long stretch, but I think there is a common reasoning behind:

- Why Shinigami wear black clothes (death in japanese culture is attributed to purple, not black)
- Shinigami that distinguish themselves from the others get to wear a white haori over their clothes
- Kyouraku's zanpakutou ("choose your color")
- Ukitake's bankai
- The Quincy living in a "shadow world".
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>>118173601
>>118173664
It's a joke. Apparently Kubo's wife looks like Soi Fon, though I can't seem to find any pictures atm.
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>>118173200
Juha bestows himself the ability to bleach away the ink with light

It's poetry. It works
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>>118173752
She probably changes hairstyles for him.

Kubo is a kinky slut.
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I wonder.

The end of the last chapter seemed to make a big deal out Yhwach being splattered in paint.

According to Ichibei he should be rendered powers.

It would feel anticlimactic if Yhwach just magick'd back his powers like he did the last time.

I think some crazy shit is gonna go down.
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>>118173967
>powers
*powerless
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>>118173728
>(death in japanese culture is attributed to purple, not black)
Source on that?
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>>118173967
Are you ready for this yhwach being yet another clone? Either that or toofsy starts tipping the scales
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>>118173370
>Maybe he will retire to Hueco Mexico and marry a qt latina.

He's already married, but he constantly cheats on her with pastries, his actual weakness.
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>>118174233
>Are you ready for this yhwach being yet another clone?

I hope not. That would actually be terrible.

>Either that or toofsy starts tipping the scales

This seems more plausible.
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>>118173728
>death in japanese culture is attributed to purple, not black)


You sure about being purple and not white?
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In the last thread somebody mentioned Kenpachi Unohana was foreshadowed, but I can't think of where
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>>118174270
>Implying his trip to Mexico wasn't filled with a qt 15 year old latina waifu who bakes for him all the time
>He loves his pan dulce

It all makes sense!
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>>118174437
A bunch of places, these off my head:
>Kenpachi gives his lieutenant the name Yachiru, the "one person he respects"
>Unohana being a Kendo specialist is noted
>Tensions between the 4th and 11th divisions as early as Soul Society
>There's one page in late Hueco Mundo/ Deicide where they exchange glances
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>>118173370
I feel like Kubo had a half mexican friend in elementary school or something. He had some of the mexican thing floating around in the background of Zombie Powder, what with the western vibe, there's Chad, a lot of the hollows having that dia de los muertos skeleton doll look, and then the arrancar and all. It seems like there's something to his fixation on it other than just because he thinks it's cool.

>>118173489
or Bad Shield United 2
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>>118174600
That's not foreshadowing because it doesn't implicate anything at the time of it being brought up. The core reason being that the reveals were mostly retcon'd in, not planned from the start. Kubo's been retconning new twists out of old loose ends pretty consistently since the end of the soul society arc.
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>>118174851
He probably did, in most of my trips to Mexico I've ran into plenty of Japs and Mexican business men hanging out at bars and stuff.

I wouldn't put past a Mexican guy being Kubo's drinking buddy back in the day.
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>>118174945
That's not really what a retcon is anon.
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>>118174945
Goalposts, man. Keep stretching them.
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>>118173728
He wasn't the most despised, he said he was the leader of the yhwach's most despised shinigami. As in both "most despised" the superlative adjectival phrase and "your"/"[yhwach's]" possessive, modifying "shinigami" as the object. It was just an awkward translation muddling the simple statement that ichibei is the leader of the royal guard, who are the strongest of the shinigami, who are the sworn enemy of the quincy.
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>>118174945
That isn't a retcon, it is a charater reveal.
Retcon is a different case.
Also, there is more than just what he said.
I remember hearing about a Bleach play involving Unohana and Kenpachi that also foreshadowed things, but I wouldn't care enough to remember more.
Whatever, foreshadowing or not it all amounted to nothing in the end.
Who cares?
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>>118175010
That's exactly what "retroactive continuity" is: "continuity" that takes effect "retroactively." Not all retcons have to be contradictory rewrites, that's just kind of what retcons are notorious for.
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>>118174851
>Bad Shield United


Why that reminds me of those RADICUL action movies ads with lots of explosions of the 90's?
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>>118175013
Foreshadowing is the indication of a future event, seeing the metaphorical "shadow" before seeing what casts it. You can't see the shadow of something that isn't there. If it hinted nothing at the time of its release because there was nothing planned for it to hint at at the time, it's just not foreshadowing by all the most basic definitions.
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>Yhwach restores his powers
>Scary monk does a scary face
>suddenly zoomed out view with large noise emote
>panel with both of them looking in the wrong direction
>Aizen with slight smirking smile not really looking at them
>panel of them both preparing for something
>panel of them both taken out
>final page is Aizen walking somewhere cliffhanger with maybe a speech bubble somewhere saying something like "It's time" or something ominous
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someone post the hype chart
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>>118175216
that's basically what Bad Shield United was, with a buddycop schtick and android women
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>You will never get a Rukia for Christmas
Why even live?
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>>118175173
Unfortunately, any more foreshadowing than what little we were given wouldn't have made much sense; the reveal itself was placed in a very particular time/place for that very reason. What was certainly foreshadowing was:
>Yachiru's namesake
>Unohana's combat prowess
>minor foreshadowing about the division rivalry
And that's about it. Still looking for that page, maybe LM has it somewhere...
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>>118173472
Kubo confirmed for god tier taste

also the ability to turn lesbians
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>>118175460
That face makes it seem like Rukia is the one getting something, if you get my jizz
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Do you guys think Rukia likes anal?
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>>118175277
see >>118175506
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>>118175431
shit i forgot how fucking 90s Kubo's art style used to be
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>>118175547
>>118175568
Rukia is pure. Stop being lewd.
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When is this fat fuck going to job already?
His fight along with the other Guards has been fucking boring and I don't give a fuck if they live or die.

Just give me Soul King already Kubo.
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>>118175649
>His fight along with the other Guards has been fucking boring and I don't give a fuck if they live or die.
Why do you even live?
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>>118175617
She's pure alright. A pure slut.
>implying she isn't the town bicycle of Soul Society
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>>118173489
Has anyone here read ZP?

Is it any good?
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>>118175568
Bite your fingers, anon.

Rukia is not like that.
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>>118171601
How many more months do you suppose until the end?
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Is Ichibei fat or just really buff?
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>>118175734
That'd be Mastumoto or Hinamori.
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>>118175582
You seem to be missing the point. Unohana's combat prowess and Yachiru's namesake were not specifically foreshadowing the reveal we got. They foreshadowed that Unohana was stronger than she let on, which had nothing to do with Zaraki at the time; and that Zaraki had a backstory yet to be elaborated on, which had nothing to do with Unohana at the time. Tying two loose ends together after the fact is not the same as having planned for them to merge when they were individually introduced. What was foreshadowed was not the fact that Unohana was Yachiru or the first Kenpachi.
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>>118175737
Yeah, it's only four volumes but it was pretty clear that Kubo has a solid idea what direction it was going in pre-cancellation, and it established a lot of trends in story/ character design that carried over to Bleach.
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>>118175568
According to that one Doujin she does.

You know the one.
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>>118175734
>implying she isn't the town bicycle of Soul Society

Then the names you are looking for are Rangiku Matsumoto and Nemu Kurotsuchi.
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>>118175737
I'd think there'd be fewer here who haven't. It was a good start but obviously it didn't get to go anywhere. It has a lot of motifs and character concepts that Kubo pretty shamelessly salvaged for Bleach. It's a decent read for the length of it.
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>>118175822
>What was foreshadowed was not the fact that Unohana was Yachiru or the first Kenpachi.
I don't care to see what difference it makes in retrospect or how it would improve the result. It's not the first time seeing two seemingly separate mysteries later found to be correlated, and in all honestly it was for the better.
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>>118175821
>Mastumoto
>a slut

Nah, she's just a massive tease. the real SS slut is Isane, because unohana kept pimping her out
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>>118175596
Whoa, whoa, this was Kubo's?

You're right, this style screams 90's
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How does Ichigo have the most boring fighting style when he has 3 kinds of superpowers?
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>>118175795
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>>118176191

4

Human
Soul Reaper
Quincy
Holoow
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>>118176027
It's not a matter of what effect is has/had ont he result it was just a derailing tangent about how terms were used wrong. There's no implications to the the misuse of the terms having any effect on the plot.
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>>118176191
He never really learned to utilize his other powers. How broken do you think he'd be if he learned to fire ceros/ballas with or without hollowfication, use sonido, do the old style Quincy shit Ishida does, utilize blut vene and new Quincy shit.
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>>118176191
because all his superpowers are the same stupid thing
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>>118176191
>Ichigo have the most boring fighting style
He doesn't; at least not if you've been following his growth since chapter 1.
>when he has 3 kinds of superpowers
Also wrong. They may take different forms but they're all one "power".
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>>118176221
Got any more of those?
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>>118176191
His Hollow is the only one who can teach him stuff but this whole time Ichigo thought the Hollow was evil so he didn't bother asking for help. And NotZangetsu didn't want to teach him anything because he didn't want Ichigo to succeed.

Hopefully now that he's accepted both of them and they've accepted him, he'll have new moves.
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>>118175596
Dark haired girl looks like she could be straight out of Slayers or Saber Marionette while light haired girl could be from Saiyuki.
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>>118175596
>>118176123
his old oneshots are included in the tankobon 2-4 of zombie powder. Rune Master Urara, Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine, and Bad Shield United.
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Yhwach gave back his own voice, his own powers. His powers existed before he could hear or speak. Did his broadsword even have a name?
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>>118176414
Kubo really turned down the gore for Bleach it seems.
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>>118176414
Holy shit, that almost looks like a shojo manga
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>>118176485
Only as it got more and more popular.
Early chapters would should spirits on earth featuring the same damage to their "bodies" as they got when they died, Sixth Sense style.
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>>118176414
It's... interesting.

These one shots are older than Zombie Powder, but looking at the expressions in this page it looks like with current Bleach he sort of (sort of ) came back to this style, kinda like a cycle.
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>>118173967

Why are chad and orihime even going up to the palace? In story its been like a month since they were getting wrecked by xcution and they don't have ichigos bullshit genetics to justify jumping in power so much as to suddenly be a 0 division level threat
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>>118176414
I'm now convinced Kubo used to read CLAMP works.
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>>118176607
It's the difference between a well-drawn one shot and a serialized manga; while the former is more detailed, it's harder to maintain that level of quality. The 'return to form'you speak of is the results of Kubo's experience as a weekly artist.
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>>118176610
Because Ishida.

A better question is why Ganju going with them. Royal Palace map my ass.
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>>118176610
Orihime is a huge asset to have around no matter how weak she is in terms of attack power.

No idea when it comes to Chad. Not really seeing how Kubo will make him relevant here without a terrible asspull, but I might be suprised.
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>>118176610
Because they're main characters? Because Orihime is one of the better healers in Bleach? Because they need to power of friendship Uryu? Or even just moral support for Ichigo?

If you stop thinking in terms of powerlevels and more in terms with plot progression, you won't need other people to answer your stupid questions.
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>>118176730
And it shows.

I just wish that he pays attention to backgrounds a bit more now.
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>>118176947
Why? I'll admit they look good when the scene calls for it, but character drawings are clearly more his forte.
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>>118176751
family related buisness probably

also, pandering to SS arc nostalgia
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I want Ichibei to shoot me with his ink all over me

god beards are so fucking hot
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>>118177048
Kubo is fine at drawing backgrounds, he's just a lazy bastard.

I don't really mind it much though, I like minimalism.
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>>118176751
Kyoraku's gonna go to Aizen's cell to ask him for help only to find it empty.
Then it cuts to the Fullbringers, about to move out from somewhere in SS, and then it shows them with their leader, Ganju.
Then it cuts to the "Ganju" in the Royal Realm flashing a shit-eating grin behind everyone's backs.
End of chapter.
Screencap this post.
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>>118177102
I'm sure his willy is more than Doujin-worthy
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>>118177137

I hope so, I would love to see some Bara Ichibei.
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>>118177119
Most of the time, his drawings don't really call for backgrounds and would look awkward and out of place against the detail of his characters. I imagine he has his assistants focus on the ridiculous amount of inking and cleanup work.
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>>118176607
I honestly feel like his art style took some weird steps backwards when he started Bleach.
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>>118175773
Unless there's been a change of plans and Kubo's editors are really riding him, it should still be a few years. This arc was supposed to be the longest in the series.
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>>118176825
Chad is fucking useless and you know it.
Even in his "arc" he was full on fucking useless.
At least fucking Orihime can heal and now that Unohana is dead she is now the best healer.

If Chad was a girl the tumblr SJW landwhales would call Kubo a racist sexist fuck.
Chad is only a main character in name.

At least I get entertained by Hinamori getting stabbed all the time. With Chad it is disgraceful how many times he has fucking jobbed at this point.
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>>118177244
You wish you had a bro like Chad. He can't kill Espada but he has Ichigo's back when it counts. Try thinking like a person instead of an autistic powerlevel calculator.
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>>118177126
Neither Ichigo, Orihime or Chad saw Aizen's shikai. I'm not sure Kukaku saw it, either.
He can't manipulate their senses.
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>>118177244

Which sucks because like the one fight he got to win way back in hueco mundo was pretty cool when he punched that guy so hard into a wall it cracked into a skull
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>>118176485
I feel like Kubo has just sectioned it off. He still seems to love it he just doesn't let it run rampant across the whole manga. He clumps all the gore and weirdness around distinctly weird characters, almost like it lets him excuse the gore and weirdness by doing so. Mayuri, Aaroniero, Zomarri, Szayelaporro, Quilge, As Nodt, Super Star, Pepe, etc... because when he's not being gross and weird he defaults to generic same faced attractive characters, the cold broody pretty guy, the wild rough around the edges guy, the spunky loli, the ditzy titty monster, and so on. And he used to show that he could do things other than those two modes but then his font of ugly but interesting looking background characters just dried up. He used to have so many square jawed bug eyed thugs back when Ichigo went to school and when all of the gotei were after the intruders. Then everyone who wasn't in a databook just kinda vanished. Chad and Ganju are basically the only survivors in that category.
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>>118172328
Casual shits will cry asspulls only to be proven wrong after Bleach fanboys does the hard task of going back 100s of chapters for proof otherwise.
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>>118177244
>At least fucking Orihime can heal and now that Unohana is dead she is now the best healer.
She was a better "healer" than Unohana even when the latter was alive. She mentioned as much when she saw her undoing Ichigo's damage at the end of SS sage.
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>>118177488
>Try thinking like a person instead of an autistic powerlevel calculator.

If Kubo was a decent writer, Chad would have been Ichigo's Kuwabara but instead we got generic shonen hero friend jobber #491921.

At least Kuwabara was able to take out Toguro Elder and fight against Sensui and was actually plot relevant. Chad is only there to job like the faggot he is. And guess what Kuwabara was moral support for Yuusuke and had more character than Chad or anyone else in Bleach for that matter.

Stop excusing Kubo for this shit and accept Chad is a shit.
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>>118177529
You went on quite a tangent after the first sentence or so; you don't expect to be taken seriously I suppose?
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>>118177222
Exactly.

Though his level to detail was surprisingly strong despite being in a weekly format. And that's something he still keeps and tries to show it from time to time, even though he adopted a more minimalistic approach nowadays.
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>>118177681
You're not even making sense. Why does Chad need to be on tier with Aizen to be relevant to the plot? It's hardly a rational criticism at this point.
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>>118177681
It's mostly the editors fault honestly. Kubo apparently had a lot of stuff planned for Chad but he had to cut it out.
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>>118177681
>fight against Sensui
Yeah, no. He wasn't able to fight him. Sensui simply was playing with all three of them until the end.
He was relevant because he was the only one that could cut the barrier between worlds, which is a lot more than what anyone can say about Chad.

Orihime's event rejecting power was pretty much going to be Bleach's Kuwabara sword, but that got dropped pretty fast during Hueco Mundo arc.
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Healers in Bleach are pretty useless tbh. They WOULD be useful if they could heal people while that person was in the middle of a fight. Like Orihime could be healing Ichigo while he's continuously getting his arms shot off by Yhwach or some shit. But as it is, all they can do is heal people after fights are already over.
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>>118177222
Yes, it was weird, still, that's what sort of my point, I mean, his expressions kinda returned to be similar to the ones his characters shows in earlier works.
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>>118177946
>Implying orihime hasn't developed a long range healing tech
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>>118177946
>Healers on a manga aren't like they are on video games. Therefore they are useless
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>>118177946
By that logic doctors in reality are useless because they aren't already fixing all the fucked up shit that's killing you while you're dying.
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>>118178005
Yes that's it. There's never a need for healer's during a fight. There isn't even much urgency to find a healer after a fight because it takes ages for Bleach characters to bleed to death.
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>>118177946
Orihime reconstructed Facebook's arm in the middle of his fight with Ichigo.
Happy?
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>>118177853

He doesnt, he just has to find another way to contribute. Mayuri and Urahara are some of the most consistently useful characters and it rarely has to do with personally fighting.

The problem with chad is fighting is all he can do and he sucks at it
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>>118177696
It wasn't the much of a tangent. Kubo has a weird binary switch between "fan favorite/fan wank" same face and "gross/freaky." He used to have a third thing inbetween those two that was just "ugly/funny" but now it's gone. It didn't really veer that far off topic.
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>>118177497
Ichigo saw it in pic related and it probably would've been trivial to show Orihime.
Chad on the other hand... Yeah I dunno.
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>>118177497
You seem to be forgetting the fact that he has the power to make his wishes reality.
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>>118178238
>The problem with chad is fighting is all he can do and he sucks at it

Not at all. Remember during early Lost Agent arc when Chad was literally the only character who spoke to Ichigo honestly, when Ichigo had convinced himself he was happy without his spirit powers? Reflect on that before thinking about what Chad contributes.
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>no chapter today
O-okay
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When do you guys think the chapter will come out? In like the next 6 hours? Trying to decide if I should sleep or not.
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>>118179092
>Trying to decide if I should sleep or not.


How about this plan: Go to sleep anon.
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>>118178954
He touched it before that, either Gin said touching it while active will negate the effect or touching it in general will make you immune to the effect.
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Yhwach himself is nothing but an asspull it's so fucking disgusting
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>>118172108
mmm, herring
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>>118179212
>>118178954

I'm still a believer that the drawback to Kyouka Suigetsu is that it can only cast the illusion on release, it's name must be stated, and the blade is held upside down with the blade facing Aizen (aka, the least threatening way to hold a blade).

Gin did say he had to be touching the blade before it's released to avoid hypnosis.
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>>118178954
This has already been debunked. He's holding it the wrong way, he didn't say its name, and in the very next page he says that the zampakuto was disappearing because the Hogyoku deemed that having a zampakuto was "beneath him" or some such.

I agree that Orihime may or may have not seen it, but Ichigo and Chad have definitely didn't.
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>>118179092
>When do you guys think the chapter will come out? In like the next 6 hours?
Go to sleep son, the chapter probably wont even be out 6hrs from now.
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>>118175773
>How many more months do you suppose until the end?

Even if Kubo is being rushed, we ain't approaching the end for at least another year. So sit back and enjoy the ride.
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>>118179497
>>118179504
Which makes me wonder when did Aizen do the ol' switcharoo. Ichigo tried to behead him the moment he came out of the garganta and while the other Captains were fighting him he saw Aizen instead Hinamori right? Otherwise he would have told them "What are you doing!" way before she was stabbed. So was Ichigo under KS's illusion all along or did he just recently see it?
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>>118179795
He said "what are you doing!" too late because the plot required it.

As soon as he left the garganta he was told by Komamura that they would make sure Aizen doesn't release his Shikai in his presence since he's pretty much the only one still unaffected by it that can stand against him.
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>>118175596
Everyone wants a reboot of Zombie Powder, and even though I want it too, I really wish Kubo would revisit Rune Master Urara.
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>>118179497
>>118179504
>holding the wrong way
What's this bullshit about? Of course it can only cast an illusion when released, and in order for that to happen its name has to be stated. But what the heck makes you think it needs to be held a certain way?
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Bleach is even worse than Nurutu.
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>>118179958
So if the Aizen in the air was the real Aizen then how'd he switch with Momo if he was being looked at by everyone including Ichigo. If he was already using it then he would have seen Momo replace him.
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>>118177926
Remember when Orihime planned to use her abilities to destroy the Hogyoku?
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>>118180034
Too bad this is Niggerwood's favorite anime/manga.

Which is pretty funny since all the black people in this shit were evil.
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>>118180059
Yes, that's why i said it was going to be the same as Kuwabara's sword but the plot point got dropped.
Aizen was supposed to have her unlock the true power of the Hogyoku or whatever, and she instead planed on removing it from existence.

But then, Fake Karakura arc out of nowhere and "It was all a ruse to get a bunch of captains trapped in Hueco Mundo" bullshit.
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>>118180034

Your shitpost is even lazier than Kubo.
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>>118180053
Because the plot required Ichigo to not reveal all of Aizen's puppetry, Frodo
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>>118180034
2/10 made me reply.
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Is Kubo supposed to have center color this week?
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>>118180396
What's that pic from. Kubo's twitter?
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>>118180462
Baidu's Jump general forum. Spoilers get posted there occasionally.
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>>118180493
Looks like Kubo's work. High quality copic
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>>118179795
>>118179958
>>118180053
>>118180273
Ichigo was saying shit was wrong the entire time, fools. Aizen simply decided to block Ichigo's voice from the perception of the Gotei 13, all of whom he had under complete hypnosis. Seriously, this is like level 0-1 on the Bleach Reading scale.
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>>118180396
>Is Kubo supposed to have center color this week?
Not from what I recall. This might be for JumpFesta or a new years color page/cover page.
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>>118180396
I don't know, but considering it says "2015" in HUGE BOLD TYPE, I'm guessing it's intended for the first week of 2015, not this week.
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>>118180396

Wat is Ichigo wearing?
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>>118180933
Like every magazine ever issues are backdated by a month. WJ 2015 issue 1 came out two weeks ago, this week is issue 3.
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>>118180996
It's just a winter coat, from what I can tell. As this guy said >>118180933 it's probably meant for next week's chapter, not this one.
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>>118181022
>backdated
forward dated, herpderp
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>>118180996
Winter-wear over his school uniform. Also, the number 15.

And by the way, that zero looks like a broken "null" sign. Wonder if that has anything to do with the planned content of the chapter.
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>>118181022
lol, that's even worse than with american comics.
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>>118181049

looks awesome.

Kubo has such a great style.
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>>118181077
>lol
Kill yourself
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>>118181141
Oh, i'm sorry.
kek.

There, i'll not make that mistake twice.
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>>118176784
lmao, did Chad even get stronger from his training with the fullbringers?
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>>118181327
>>118181249
>>118181141
>>118181077

>lmao
>kek
>lol
>ftw

narutofags get the fuck out
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>>118181327
He was going to, but then he got Facebooked and his supposed training was lost in limbo.
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>>118181348
>implying I'd read that trash
lol
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>>118178954
Ichigo is clearly looking AWAY from the blade
He's looking to his right
aizen's sword is on his left.
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>>118180001
>Of course it can only cast an illusion when released
I mean that the act of releasing it is the act of casting the illusion. If you look at the sword after it's been released, you won't be affected. To catch new people, Aizen would have to revert his sword out of shikai and re-release it.

> in order for that to happen its name has to be stated
Those who achieve bankai don't need to say their sword's name for shikai.

>But what the heck makes you think it needs to be held a certain way?
It's how he was holding it when releasing the illusion in front of Barragan. It's a weird way to hold a blade. He even calls it a ritual.
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>>118181676
Hey, remember that theory about the moon phases and Aizen being associated with the Crescent? Did that one guy ever finish cataloging that stuff?
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>>118181762

That was me actually. And no. I never finished. But it's very clear there is a connection.
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>>118180933
>15
>Ichigo
Duh
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>>118181816
Yeah, I agree. Honestly, I think there's probably going to end up being some kind of remote mythological connection that nobody has noticed but Kubo, much like with the Aztec Gods parallels and the Aizen Myōō stuff.
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>>118181993

Aizen carefully constructed all of the events that occurred in Bleach. All of the events that he planned out are generally accompanied by a moon, sometimes full, crescent, etc.

I had a full list but I lost it a long time ago. I said I was going to do it in like early 2013.
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>>118182121
>The Night Right chapter back when Masculine showed up was Aizen's doing
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>>118180835
Pages? If Aizen was doing that then he might as well of never let them see Ichigo was there at all.
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>>118182288

Aizen could have done a lot of things.

Including making himself invisible and killing everybody instantly, including Yamamoto.

But he didn't.

He has his reasons.
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Damn reading the stuff in this thread makes me think I underestimated Bleach. Should I go back and read again? I stopped after X-cution because I heard the final arc was still ongoing and got really crappy.
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>>118182330

the only real way to read Bleach is on the kubo level.
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http://jump-netabare.seesaa.net/article/410424750.html

Spoilers, may be fake.
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Aizen told Ichigo to look at his blade, and then it shattered.

Kyoka Suigetsu's release command is shatter.
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>>118181993
Aizen/Ichigo being an indirect reference to Tezcatilpoca since he is the ruler of "night" and the "invisible".
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>>118182364

>Osho one shots Yhwach and is revived by the superstar james

FUCKING NO.
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>>118182351
How do I read on the Kubo level?
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>>118182288
Yeah, but he obviously wanted for them to know at just the right moment so that he could do pic related and troll the shit out of them. Gotei and Visored never stood a chance to begin with, given he could control all their senses and had a hard counter to Yama, so why wouldn't he have some fun with it.
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>>118182417
He uses S and N. If they're real this means that Yhwach can in fact use the powers he absorbs.
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I feel like Kyoraku is so irrelevant
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>>118182453

God I hope not

this is going to be so fucking gay

please be fake
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>>118182453
he uses the E too
also, I'm not sure if the spoilers mean that he's using the powers of james, or if james is there himself.
I think it's the powers of james.
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>>118182364
Wrap Yuhabahha in Osho is [black]

Yuhabahha
(What ... this force ...!?)

Although it Yuhabahha you are going Furiharao
[Black] is gradually beginning to cover the body

Buddhist priest
"Nameless of Quincy
What made different re of the world

To try Nuguo to try Furiharao
Black never take

As it is, the presence of the teacher
Fragments of Reiko also fill it without leaving "

I will try to shout something Yuhabahha
But, is it even filled with black

Piece of Yuhabahha is all black

Buddhist priest
"Farewell Well, something that was in there."

Title
"Black out"

--------------------------------------

I'm crouched in the dark
Children Yuhabahha

Someone reach out
Yuhabahha to grab the hand

But the moment you grabbed
That someone collapse

Yuhabahha also force without
Crouch to score

Yuhabahha
"Darkness my hometown, darkness my bed
Darkness ... "

Lit is light in the darkness
Character of [S] was shining

--------------------------------------

Hash Barthes
I shout the name of the Yuhabahha

Hash Baltic
"Your Majesty!"

By the hash Baltic cry
Yuhabahha is restored
(Thanks to the ability of [S])

In addition, floating character of [N] in front of the eye
Yuhabahha to grab it

Buddhist priest
"!!"

Yuhabahha
"My name is Yuhabahha

Superstar James,
Named Robert,

Let alone together, it will Susumo both "

Yuhabahha you shed a tear

Although priest tries to fluoride the brush
Emitted character of [E] to explosion

Title
"Blackout end"

Character of the end is engraved on the title
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>>118182417
>implying the S is not best Quincy power
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>>118182364
>gives himself [S]

Sounds fake.
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>>118182443
Always look for unusual patterns based on appearance and actions, and never believe anything any character says, even if they should by all accounts be honest and infallible.
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>>118182534
James died. Ywach said as much when Renji reckd him.
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>>118182654
yes, but the spoilers make it a little unclear
I think it's saying that Juha has a vision of superstar cheering him on
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>>118182574
Yhwach gets engulfed in black ink
He can't speak or use his powers
Juugram Hashwalth (The B) yells out to him
That activates The Superstar
Robert Acutrone was The Named
Yhwach uses The Explode

sounds fishy as all hell, but it could just be a really really bad chapter. Unlike a lot of these dumb spoilers there are a few different instances showing up mostly with the same text in different blogs.

>>118182654
James was an extension of The S power, given his freakish regeneration he was probably never even actually human.
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>>118182692
oh and I think it was implied that in the ink drowning thing Ichibei actually erased Yhwach's name, which was why The Named was brought up. Again, sounds really stupid and I'm hoping that means it's fake. Hoping.
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>>118182686
>Haschwalth is to Yhwach as James is to Mask
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>>118182654
S works if he has fans cheering him on. So either little James midget clones took shape to cheer him on, or little Yhwach clones did.
It makes sense that Yhwach would start out strong, but get beaten and then come back stronger after pulling out powers. Oh god, he really is Ichigo from 1000 years ago.

Also a reminder that OMZ can split himself into multiple bodies, but in doing so he splits his overall power as well. Yhwach may be able to do the same.
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>>118182749
>Implying Mask wasn't James.
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>>118182643
What the fuck.

From which novel was this again?
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>>118182692
>>118182574
>>118182364
on a second go around all the different blogs showing up in the search for this text are shitty no hit count, no comment, porn ad infested sites. These might actually just be spam designed to rake in search hits.
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>>118182692
It better be fake. If Ywach has access to all 26 bullshit sternritter abilities then it would make him stupidly overpowered.
The mere fact he can somehow bestow such powers to random people is bullshit. Doing it on himself would be absurd.

Seriously, S would make him almost immortal, V would allow him to make anything he thinks real, J would allow him to seal anyone inside a jail that can only be opened from the outside, Z and L would allow him to control his enemies, W would make him immune to physical attacks as long as he pays attention, and a long list of etc.
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>>118182821

It can't be real.

Too stupid

use baidu
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>>118182643
but Spirits Are Forever With You was awful and the Kenpachi plot was horrendous.
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>>118182692
>The Named
What the hell does it do, keep people from stealing your name? If so that's an awful power.
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>>118182746
>"The Named"
>For whatever reason is a gunslighter

Fake spoilers.
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>>118182852
Last time I checked, it should only prolong his life and capability to undo harm since he does carry the life force of anyone who came in contact with his blood.
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I am betting that Ichibei was Genryusai's teacher
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>>118182852
>The mere fact he can somehow bestow such powers to random people is bullshit. Doing it on himself would be absurd.
Its fake but it really isn't absurd. He gave himself the power of voice after this throat got crushed. His power is probably to give himself any power which is more broken than Aizen.
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>>118182887
>The Jail
>One of the highest ranking officers in his army
Some get stuck with shitty powers and make up for it with superb base skills.
Bernice's power was asking questions for fuck's sake.
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>>118182692
>Robert Acutrone was The Named
This pisses me off more than anything else.
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>>118183097
Hmm, I wonder if his power is something like being able to put a name on his shots or something
I need to go back and reread
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>>118182852
What diference does it make?

Aaroniero supposedly had the powers of like 30,000 hollows and he died because he didn't consider the posibility of Rukia having developed more zanpakuto techniques since Kaien died.

Bleach fights are not based on powerlevel but intelligence level.
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>>118183163
>Bleach fights are not based on powerlevel but intelligence level.

This is actually true. Damn, we could make an IQ chart for the characters and it would explain every fight.
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>>118183065

So, did Juha give Bazzbee the ability to make rape faces too?
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>>118182883
I think the (fake) spoilers are saying he uses it to get him name back from having been erased by Ichibei. Hence the line of text that reads something like:
>「我が名はユーハバッハ
"My name is Yuuhabahha
>スーパースタージェイムス、
Suupaasutaa Jyaimusu,
>ネームドロバート、
Neemudo Robaato,
>共にあろう、共に進もう」
Exist together, advance together more"
I don't get what benefit there is in him fusing those two in particular though. Again this just seems too dumb to be real. watch it be real
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>>118183065
We don't know really what her powers were like. Kempachi killed her while his hearing was fucked after Roar, well, roared at him.

Her power probably would have made him question his resolution or some hypnotic bullshit if he actually was able to hear her.
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>>118183065
What If she were to ask someone whether or not they exist and they could not then they would disappear
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>>118183046
>He gave himself the power of voice after this throat got crushed.
I'm pretty sure all he did was heal himself whilst being really dramatic about it.
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>>118183200

1. Aizen
2. Urahara (not intelligent, but an opportunist)
3. everyone else
999999
1000000. Yamamoto (lower than ganju)
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>>118183216
What if your bones were cookies?
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>>118183137
I don't think so, I don't remember anything like that.

If this is really true than it's just a shameless Deus Ex machina.
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>>118183163
It was mentioned early on in the manga that every bankai had the potential to beat another bankai. I'm guessing this was more on the lines of "use it wisely"
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>>118183163
>Bleach fights are not based on powerlevel but intelligence level.
Pretty much, that's why Gremmy lost. Ywach chose a retard with less imagination than a fly to wield The V.
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>>118183200
Would it work? Since pretty much every character has done "My ____ is ____. It does _____" And it's pretty stupid both character wise and storyteller wise.
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>>118183255
Why didn't he just imagine all of the shinigami being dead?
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>>118183270

>The gotei thirteen thought they could defeat Aizen because he told them his ability
>he trashes all of them in one chapter
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>>118183163
This is accurate. Its really annoying when people bitch about things like how Tousen's former VC Hisagi could kill a fully hollow Tousen. If people stopped thinking in terms of power levels its pretty easy to see that Tousen died because he was overconfident and sloppy which allowed him to die via sneak attack.
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>>118183046
I think that was more referring back to his childhood thing and being born deaf mute and blind and having to give himself all his basic faculties. When he said he gave himself the power of speach again he never used any kind of "" or 「」quotes like Kubo's been doing throughout the whole arc. So whatever it was it wasn't like giving himself the schrift, The V, The Voice. It was some other arbitrary thing.
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>>118183286
Makes you wonder why he went through the trouble of making all those Arrancar if he was that strong. He didn't even need Gin.
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>>118183236
>Urahara
>Not intelligent

You mean the guy Aizen said was the only one that matched his intelligence, which annoyed him because of how he accepted being part of SS instead of aiming higher like he himself was doing? The guy that succeeded on making the Hogyoku when Aizen failed, which prompted the latter to orchestrate Rukia's kidnapping to steal it?
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>>118183319

He stated he didn't need anyone, but only used them to stall for the Hougyoku release.

He could have killed the entire gotei 13 captaincy at a meeting.

Using Kyouka suigetsu he could slowly decapitate Yamamoto and have it so he wouldn't even know it were happening.
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>>118183319
What Aizen got out of the deal with the Arrancar was a nice hiding place where he can brew his plans and conduct his experiments undisturbed.

The Espada were more of his doorman than his army.
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>>118183295
Powerlevels are obviously based on ranks of "coolness." If Kubo can't think of a cool way to kill a villain then the hero just gets bailed out, offs them off screen, or gets a lame unimpressive and narrowly won victory. It's why Shuuhei and Ikkaku and Shinji and the Vizard never win any fights now. Kubo blew his load with most of them during the Aizen thing and with no cool scenes left to give them they just don't ever win.
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>>118183349

You clearly haven't read Bleach.

Urahara is a copycat. All of his inventions are copies, including the Hougyoku

Aizen created the original Hougyoku. Urahara's was a copycat. Aizen stated this as he was killing Gin.

He stole Urahara's and melded it with his own which created its own consciousness.
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>>118183273

Same reason Gilgamesh didn't just use Enkidu to beat unlimited blade works instantly.

He thought "why bother? I can't be beaten anyway". Ego is a hell of a drug.
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>>118183319
This is my one of my big gripes about the series. Reading it week to week sucked but FKT was probably the worst arc in retrospect because it was literally a year long filler in the manga. Sure you got some neat fights out of it but in the end the shinigami entirely swept up the arrancar army. And then Aizen fucks them all up in 1 chapter. Why the fuck did Kubo waste a whole fucking year to do that?
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>>118183319
100 years is a long time to let pass without doing anything else in between Hogyoku experiments.
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>>118183382
Including "I observed you shooting a balla, I can't be hit by it anymore by either dodging it or firing off something similar to cancel it out."
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>>118183351
Yeah, so why was he able to do that, anyway?

Still just some residual power from his transformation? Had Yhwach seen Kyoka Suigetsu some time before, or does he now just have an aura of sensory disruption?
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>>118183438

That's not an invention. Just a power of Benihime.

Let him try that on Aizen. He would decimate his asshole.
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>>118183441

Aizen became one with his Zanpakutou during deicide. It shattered because he became Kyouka Suigetsu.

That's probably still the case.
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>>118183441
Could be just a simple speech skill too. Like how street magicans are very skilled at distracting you too.

Aizen's a geek.
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Good news.

I'm not seeing the spoilers on any other forums or spoiler sites. They're probably fake.
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>>118183492
Christ, even in defeat he's broken as fuck.
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>>118183516
Good. Faith on Kubo restored.
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>>118183319
Back when it seemed like Aizen had only started making his own Arrancar and sticking them in neat white uniforms since he left SS it felt like he was making them just to test out the hougyoku and get the hang of it before using it on himself, or Gin or Tousen. I always liked the idea that he never meant to raise an army of arrancar, he just kept piling up test subjects and needed to give them something to do. It kinda lent to his god complex to think he didn't even want them as pawns, he was just stuck making use of them so long as he was stuck with them.
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>>118183528

It makes sense really.

He's been sitting in the muken for two years, Hougyoku and all. What has he been doing?

playing chess with himself? Probably.
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>>118183273
Because the moment the thought of "Shinigami being dead" leave his mind, they come back.

That's how his power worked.
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>>118183516
>>118183538
Don't jinx it.
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