>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against 580 foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.
Any info on nyaa and bakabt, are we in trouble?
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140728/t10013332551000.html
Well it's about time I grew out of this shit anyways
>>111262910
So Mangafox is finally going to die?
DAMN YOU DAIZ
>>111262910
>mainly operated by Chinese
They're mainly going to attack chinese sites, isn't nyaa in like Sweden or something?
Stop making these fucking threads.
>>111262910
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found.
"Hey you, stop stealing."
"No."
"...well, we tried."
Yeah we sure are in "trouble".
Do you think, the community is too stupid to use piratebay?
>>111263022
Mainly, but if they attack a couple of western torrents, we're doomed. Maybe, it's P2P time and stuff.
>>111262910
>the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation
PANOC
>the government will start simultaneously sending requests
Who writes this shit.
Nobody fucking cares.
>>111263036
>Yeah we sure are in "trouble".
You know about Fakku and Sadpanda, right?
>>111263235
The horsefucker that runs Sad Panda is a spineless faggot and an idiot.
>>111263311
This.
I hope our lord Daiz will save us from this menace.
>>111263311
Bakabt too. Nyaa? We don't know... yet.
>>111263334
You mean daiz will sell out
You can now download an ep for $5.99 for the first 300 Mb
>>111263388
>Nyaa
The mods shitpost in threads of subgroups they don't like. The admin and Daiz are our only hope.
> I'd expect them to be able to take down some shitty illegal streaming sites at most, so nothing of value will be lost.
Word of God.
>>111263514
>making bigger files more expensive so more people will use 10-bit
Sasuga, Daiz.
>>111262910
if hollywood with all its jew bucks cant stop anyone from downloading movies, do you really think japan stands a chance?
I'll worry about Nyaa when Piratebay gets actually shut down.
>>111263658
Japan is a tiny country.
>>111263658
Because animu contributors are dumb. For example, canlators delete manga and don't use piratebay. They're worse, than Nazi.
And you know, that Bakabt delets every licensed shit out there.
>>111263841
Come back when you can type English, Cirno.
>>111263691
>>111263841
so now our pirating is going to be EXTRA illegal?
>>111263691
For you.
Bakabt are still adhering to Box's shitty old policies, and considering newfag probably doesn't even know what boxtorrents is anymore I imagine they're too far below a radar for ANYONE to care.
they'll probably DMCA sadpanda again because of that faggot Jacob
>mangafox
>mangapanda
>mangashit
You will not be missed
>>111263955
OK, I'm back.
>>111263986
Going deeper.
Welp, time for IRC.
>>111262910
So? Pirating anime was already illegal. The only possible change is you might (not very likely unless you use Chinese torrent sites) have to change what website you download/torrent from.
So how exactly is the Japanese government going to do anything about sites operated outside of Japan? Is this why Abe wanted to change article 9?
>>111262910
Piracy is what brought anime here in the first place.
And i don't think people from the west will massively buy anime all the sudden since their websites are gone heck there will be even fewer sales in the west then it is now.
>>111264639
Plenty of webhosts will comply with takedown requests from the owner if you're hosting copyrighted content. It causes a lot of trouble for streaming sites to deal with it.
If they don't comply with a takedown request, then it's unlikely that they'll really go to court to try to take down the website. But having to jump from host to host could be a big hassle for some of the streaming sites so I bet a few of them would go down.
That's my experience for US/European sites, but I'm not sure what Chinese hosts do. I think they don't give a shit at all.
>>111264830
Yes, from the copyright holder, but how is that any different from the situation as it is right now? The Japanese government does not own any copyrights personally, so I don't see what their help is going to change.
>>111264639
They will try to use intimidation, demanding, threatening, citing international law, "consequences will never be the same", etc.
Then if there isn't a response, they may try and contact local governments. But for the most part, this is a lost cause unless the site is being hosted in a country with strict piracy laws.
>>111264830
Fuck the streaming sites, it'd be excellent if they all died. Parasitic shitheads like the people who run ad-ridden streaming sites for the sole purpose of obtaining their filthy advertising shekels deserve to have their livelihoods killed.
>>111263523
I trused Tenboro when he said Wani was handled, and look where that got us.
I won't be burned again.
>>111263235
Hosting anything in the US is fucking retarded.
Yes, sadpanda is hosted in the US, seriously.
Nyaa and BakaBT are in the Netherlands.
TT is in the Ukraine.
DMCA and whatever tools Japan has are ineffective.
>>111265463
I thought the pands was hosted in Denmark or something.
>>111265496
Why are they responding to DMCAs then?
They aren't required to.
It's okay, Daiz will save us.
>>111265542
You aren't required to respond to DMCAs even in the U.S., right? If you don't respond to them, though, it encourages them to sue.
>>111262910
>Foreigners downloading anime that is unavailable to them normally
>Profit loss
Pick one
>>111265639
Sure, but they have a direct legal consequence.
Overseas they do as much as an email asking you to stop doing whatever you are doing.
Wow, nothing is changing. Literally retarded shitpost made to scare the fucktards and drama queens on /a/.
>>111265587
Don't hang on to his shiny bald head, your fingers will slip.
>>111264830
Why would anybody care about streaming sites?
>>111265463
Netherlands best country with denmark to host stuff
>>111262910
On foreign sites?
Hah!
Get wrecked Japan, even the US has not been able to do that with child porn.
And you want to try it just for copyright fees.
Dumb
The way I always seen it trying to take stuff down via force is just like throwing rockets at a hornet nest
>>111265463
>Nyaa and BakaBT are in the Netherlands.
Isn't nyaa in sweden? Anyway, I finally found a reason to be proud of my country.
>>111265978
>>111265978
>throwing rockets at a hornet nest
Seems pretty effective.
>>111266101
this
>>111265978
you are dumb as fuck
>>111262910
>Estimated loss 560 billion yen
>Implying that anyone would have bought even 1% of shit they torrented
>Implying half the shit they churn out would have had any attention if people had to pay for them
Estimated loss figures from piracy always annoys me to no end.
This means nothing.
The worst that can happen is some series raws take a little longer to be uploaded if they stop the chinese from doing it early.
The US can't keep the pirate bay down so what makes you think a small ass country (in comparison) like Japan will be able to do anything?
>>111262910
What's the best ambassador of Japan in the world ?
Yeah, manga and anime.
Without that, nobody would give a fuck about Japan.
And they want to stop that ?
A whole generation has learned to love Japan without Japan having to do anything, an they want to stop that ?
Because of manga and anime, a lot of people see Japaneses as equals at last, and they want to stop that ?
In todays world, there is nothing more valuable than good advertising, and they want to stop this subtle, free advertising they got worldwide ?
I can't find a single word to resume the extent of that kind of stupidity.
I'm MAD.
Pic related. The power of popular culture.
>>111266396
The fact that people treat it like the most black and white thing ever is pretty maddening.
http://manga-anime-here.com/
The site's up.
>>111266444
they are giving us legal alternatives!
>>111266444
>In todays world, there is nothing more valuable than good
Money
Or the prospect of it.
Full metal jacket was a shitty movie by the way.
Will cc0721 be put in prison and get raped by Taiwanese faggots?
>>111262910
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies
CAPITALISM HO
>>111266833
Money is only worth a 1:1 ratio of value, you only have as much money as you have.
Good advertising is far more valuable, you can turn a few million into a few billion.
>>111262910
this is gonna be...tragic?
If i cant acces the mangos and animus i watch, what i am supposed to do? wait half a year for oficial dubs or subs?
meh, i think this might end up bitting em back
Why don't they just put shit up for free (legitimately) and make money like everyone else does through premium services and advertising?
What's so hard about this?
>>111267034
Because, being the jewish fucks they are, they want to suck your wallet dry as much as possible. But then people rebel against this by putting up file-sharing websites.
Welcome to the age of corporatism. Piracy is the only way left to fight back.
I think Neil Gaimen put it best
Can't beat free advertising
>>111262910
I'll stop pirating when it's more convenient and faster to pay for it
so never
>>111262910
>250 titles
>compared to all the shit on nyaa, batoto, bakabt, and sadpanda
What the fuck are they even thinking?
How many of these have we had at this point with nothing having changed
>>111267170
this happens when a select few companies try to monopolize the market.
It usually goes like this: Oh you wanted to watch [insert your favourite anime]? Too bad watch this [generic shounen episode 4352354] instead!
their greed is literally trying to kill anime
>>111267170
Having 250 titles on launch is not bad at all really.
Especially since they have the majority of hit series right now and that's the majority of pirated downloads.
Obviously this won't get rid of the big sites, but it may get some of the normalfags to paying for their manga. Could've been a worse attempt
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.
That doesn't sound too bad for me but I feel bad for you NEETs out there.
>>111266396
Do you know what the revenue difference is between 0 people buying something and 10000000000000 people pirating something?
NOTHING
>taking down the Chinese through legal actions
they can't be serious...
building a fucking warp engine within this decade would be more feasible
>>111262910
>Any info on nyaa and bakabt, are we in trouble?
I haven't used either of those sites in over a year.
This thread again.
It doesn't matter if they take out 50 million sites, all the animu will be available one way or another. Sure, mango isn't in its best days, but that can't be helped.
>>111266984
We go back to the source. Rev up those Amigas, where do i send my tapes ?
>>111266444
>Japan exists in the international world solely for anime and manga
I know this is /a/: Anime and Manga but come on
>>111267474
What's even more hilarious is it's the fucking JAPS thinking they can get the fucking Chinese government to enforce foreign IP laws of any sort. The chinks have been jacking everything from movies to missile schematics from the US for years and basically respond "cry more, you bitches" when the US complains about it. Fuck all is going to happen, especially to the chinks.
>>111267565
Isn't Japan the third largest economy in the world, only recently bumped from 2nd by China?
Where's Commie hosted.?
>>111267601
>mfw WW3 happens because Japan wants China to stop pirating its animu
>>111267465
If zero people bought your product than you obviously fucked up somewhere. The piracy just emphasizes that.
Single-player only games like Skyrim are easy as shit to pirate yet developers are getting plenty of sales. Why? Because they made somtehing fans consider worthy of buying.
There are only 2 things you need to do to curb piracy.
1. Make a good product at a reasonable price
2. Make sure it's just as easy to get that product legally as it is to pirate it.
>>111267750
>reasonable price
Animu never.
>>111266444
Also games, don't forget that.
>>111267684
ask them
>>111267647
And anime/manga counts for less than 0.5% of that. Even in Japan this stuff is a niche market, claiming that it has any influence on the international stage is silly. You silly anon.
>>111267684
Nyaa
>>111267750
>>111267822
Anime prices really are such fucking bullshit. Fuck the nips for still buying that shit. How do otaku always have so much money?
>>111267750
People pirate because they dont want to pay for it. Doesn't matter if the show costs $80 or $40 they still arent going to buy it.
>>111267905
I was agreeing with you, you doofus; the post you were responding to you wasn't me. My point was that Japan is wildly important for a whole lot of reasons besides anime and manga.
>>111267937
The prices are what keeps the whole industry afloat, you fucking moron.
>>111267937
They dont buy anything else. Its easy to have disposable income when you dont go outside, dont own a car, dont have to pay for gas, dont go to movies or wherever with friends. Or live at home and dont pay for anything but animu
So what? If they attack illegal streaming sites all it will do is piss off some plebs who actually watch stream anime with watermarks, adds, shitty quality and stolen subs. They are doing the community a service. I don't really pirate manga so I can't give two fucks about that either. I seriously doubt they can do anything about torrents though and as long as exhentai is alive I'm happy.
>>111267937
>How do otaku always have so much money?
Baito and their parents, anon. Girls can sell their panties and suck middle aged men's cocks.
You can't stop piracy in 2014 you fucking can't.
It's grew too big now there is no way to deal with it at all. Arresting and charging a few people here and there isn't going to do nothing.
>>111268087
do japanese grills really watch anime?
>>111267972
If they were never going to buy it then the piracy means nothing. It had zero effect on the company.
However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to.
A good example would be most of /a/. I know at least I would buy anime if I could get it on BD or a BD-quality download and subbed at a reasonable price. $100 for a 12 episode series is not reasonable and that is why no one outside of japan is buying it on a large scale.
>>111267972
Apple made it for music and games, Steam made it.
>>111268000
You must be kidding, man. Prices down, sells up.
First they take our sweet, vanilla hentai, and now they would aim for our anime and manga
Do they not understand that their prices are outrageous and they are only hurting themselves
>>111267750
But that applies only to US vidya. Not even Japan vidya is that affordable, much less anime BDs or DVDs.
>>111268114
Yep, females are a sizable part of the overall demographic and plenty of things cater to them specifically.
>>111268050
Depends what you mean by "alive." It's still alive, but it took a bullet to the chest and is bleeding heavily. Recovery is uncertain.
>>111268099
>Lelouch saying something intelligent
It's truly the end of days.
>>111268168
>>You must be kidding, man. Prices down, sells up.
Please, kill yourself. You know absolutely nothing about business or niche industries.
>>111268114
No but they can be used to barbecue meat and stuff.
>>111268234
>intelligent
No, obvious.
>>111268202
>Not even Japan vidya is that affordable, much less anime BDs or DVDs.
That's my point.
That is why the piracy rate is so high.
The only people buying anime are the hardcore fans who'd buy it at practically any price.
>>111267704
Fuck I need to get back to achieving satori.
![[HorribleSubs] Free! Eternal Summer - 04 [480p].mkv_snapshot_04.44_[2014.07.24_16.58.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/z35OyuA.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Free! Eternal Summer - 04 [480p].mkv_snapshot_04.44_[2014.07.24_16.58.09].jpg")
>>111268114
They read manga and watch some animu. Lots of manga, BTW.
I'd sure love to buy some legal VN/Eroge online. The translated ones are expensive as fuck to import from US. If there only was a store like steam that stocked some hardcore japanese porngames I'd throw my money at it. Such a shame they can't sell porn on Steam due to feminist getting their rectums ravaged if they sell such patriarchal material and the jews on Steam will lose their precious gamer gurl shekels.
>>111268130
>However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to
so the problem is not the piracy itself, but a lack of trust towards the fans
>>111267704
i lold
>tfw stuck with downloading via xdcc
>tfw three quarters of /a/ doesn't even know what IRC is
>tfw most of the retards will leave /a/
>>111268244
No, u, retard. Music industry was in a deep shit, until SJobs made em sell songs for 0,99c. Go and read some internet, newfag.
>>111268268
they'll cook my meat alright
>>111268413
This is only a good thing
>>111263691
Bigger than all of Hollywood that's for sure
>>111268176
i watch them try and laugh.
i will never pay that much for few episodes of cartoon.
i much rather pirate, get caught, and pay 80cents per episode, 10 cents per page plus the fine that is 20€.
currently the price would be around 850€ without the fine.
now count how much i would have to pay if i went the legal way
>create some sort of anime netfilx
>find out who fansubbers are
>ask them to sub your show
>give them a small percentage of whatever the show makes based on views
>no work for the nipponese other than maintaining the site and add new shit
As much as I would like for this to happen, it never will
>>111268413
What makes you think you're the specuak snowflake who knows about XDCC? FYI not everything is available on IRC so you might want to rethink that post.
>>111268413
I may have been to lazy to figure it out so far, but it won't be hard if I'm forced into it. Will probably be better in the end.
>>111268413
>2014
>XDCC & IRC
If the Jews had it their way they also try to ban dvr's
And yes yes they tried
>>111268448
Holy fuck, are you seriously comparing the music industry, something with mass appeal, to late night animu with a sales base of a few thousand otaku? You slash prices, you won't get an increase in sales. They've done it before, it doesn't fucking work.
You understand nothing about business. Kill yourself.
>>111268532
"Special", even. I hate typing on a cellphone.
>>111262910
Yeah good luck from stopping China. Pfth. They don't have any piracy laws and shit. We fine.
>>111268532
>not everything is available on IRC
Yeah, only the vast majority
>>111268527
Needs an option for downloading.
>>111268527
>create some sort of anime netfilx
>find out who fansubbers are
>ask them to sub your show
So basically, Crunchyroll?
>>111268532
>FYI not everything is available on IRC so you might want to rethink that post.
It's like you don't even know how fansubbing works
>>111268527
Paying percentages for work like translation is stupid. You don't have to be a business major to understand that. Just a one time commision thing per episode is enough.
>>111268365
Pretty much. Just look at my options as an American
- Buy extremely overpriced BDs with no subs shipped from Japan
- Pay for low quality Crunchyroll stream (assuming Crunchyroll was able to get it) and not even own the actual content
- Pay for an overpriced American shitty dub that will have a shitty sub If I'm lucky and will be released at least a year after the show ends and I've seen all the spoilers
Torrenting a fansub through Nyaa is so much better than all of these options I'd pick it even if I had to pay a subscription fee
>>111268521
>It's less expensive to just do it the illegal way and get caught than to do it legitimately
Shit I never thought of this, thanks for the insight, anon
>>111268623
That's the point.
>>111268642
Well, more money would go to the producers, studios, ect. compared to CR.
Also, you would end up with potentially better subs.
>>111268585
I just remind you of one simple fact: the cheaper product is, the more customers buy it, if the quqlity doesn't drop. Now stop posting retarded things.
>>111268527
>sharing profits
>sharing profits with others
>sharing profits with other countries
you don't understand why this whole deal is about
>>111268661
Fansubbed anime aren't the only things we torrent, you know.
Whatever.
i need suggestions for good anime movies.
i don't like love stories
>>111268792
Besides manga, what else is there relevant to the topic?
What's the point of rubbing this same exact fearmongering thread in our faces for the past week now?
>>111268721
He's saying that their audience for sales is based around people obsessed and dedicated enough that lowering the sales wouldn't change anything, the same people would still buy it and at the higher price.
I don't know any proof he think he has, but it's definitely a logical conclusion.
>>111268864
Porn?
>>111268527
How bout regular Netflix? They stuck stuff SnK and that Knights of Sidonia show up fairly early, compared to all its other offerings which are years old.
Of course, they're a season or two after the fact, and on the other hand, they have to vie with Funimation and CR.
>>111268883
I don't think anyone is worried considering the fact that Japan's not doing a good job at making this issue seem important
>>111268864
My dick in your mouth, definitely.
>>111268883
How is it fearmongering? Literally nobody on this site is seriously worried
>>111268907
Last I check, these companies aren't going after porn sites
>>111268721
>>I just remind you of one simple fact: the cheaper product is, the more customers buy it,
Sure, except more doesn't mean better.
If you drop the price by half, and you don't get well over a 150% increase in sales, you're losing money. The anime industry is based around hardcore fans that will pay any price, the price is no issue when it comes to deciding if they want to support a show or not. When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales. Even ignoring the true loss in profit margins, you're still not selling as much.
>>111263004
as much as piratebay did
>>111268925
More like I'm surprised that the Japanese Governement "BAN ALL MANGA" stance in the past few years went to "MANGA IS COOL, PROTECT MANGA"
I'm seriously wondering where the fuck they're coming from on this one.
TRIGGER animu got crowdfunded and then trigger saved anime.
buying obscenely overpriced animu has always primarily gone only to the studio heads.
publishers are scared their free ride is being threatened by internet, where piracy fights corporatism and crowdfunding MAY empower good artists to break free of the shackles that rob them of their intellectual property and outside of rich outliers like the Big 3's mangaka, for example, get paid an utter pittance.
>>111268986
Then why is sad panda supposed to be in trouble?
God, it's amazing how /a/ is so good at giving one his daily headaches.
>>111268859
Megazone 23.
>>111262910
>They think people will actually buy their chinesse cartoons
They will experience the same fate of ourmods.
Is this the end of free content on the internet? It seems that's where it's headed.
>>111269096
Wani sent a DMCA? The site's not in danger or anything, because unlike Wani, these companies are actually trying to stop piracy.
>>111269143
Don't kill the messenger, bro.
So /a/, what hobbies are you going to take up now that anime is dead?
I'm thinking about getting into baking, damn that pretzel bread looks good.
>>111269202
We're not there yet, and probably won't be for a good while, but hey I don't want to fuck your week, but all of us here, we'll live to see the end of the internet. It's coming.
The outcome of such move if passed, would be the complete annihilation of smaller artists. Mostly big titles (read generic shounen crap) would survive meaning the industry would be taking a far bigger blow than what they are crying about right now.
It's not about piracy, it's about making the
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies
richer
don't fool yourselves
>>111269217
It is more about the people receiving the message than killing the messenger, man.
>>111268886
>lowering the sales wouldn't change anything
Really? But why it worked with the music and games then?
>>111269029
>more doesn't mean better
?
>The anime industry is based around hardcore fans
Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
>When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales.
This point seems legit. They need some online distribution and a worldwide market to do this.
>>111269397
Music and games are mainstream.
Late night anime isn't.
It's that simple.
>>111269397
music and games don't rely on basement losers still living with their mom to sell
anime does
>>111269397
>>Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
Kids aren't fucking buying blu-rays. There are a few teens who watch late night stuff, but they aren't paying for it, and they wouldn't be paying for it if it was a little cheaper.
>>111269251
Nice mushrooms, faggot.
>>111269619
cannot unsee
Jesus christ, what's been up with all this crazy shit lately?
I mean, this isn't going to amount to anything for various reasons, but all this shit happening recently makes me disheartened. Anime sales are higher than ever as of late. You'd think they'd only bother with this crap if sales were low to boogeyman someone. Going with the status quo and being happy with their prospering (financially) industry seems a lot easier, even than making a badly designed website like they did.
>>111269468
>Late night anime isn't.
Not even just late night, anything that isn't super popular like the typical kids shows, Gundam, or high profile jump titles aren't of any interest to the Japanese mainstream.
>>111267704
>Stop pirating our anime!
>When you give us the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
I'm ready for shit to go nuclear.
>>111269521
>music and games don't rely on basement losers still living with their mom to sell
Oh, you!
>>111269584
>late night stuff
Why are you focusing on it? If it's cheap, they can buy, how can you be so sure?
>>111267750
To be fair, living in the U.S., tough crime laws are kind of a deterrent. They can also encourage more tech-savvy people to develop things like proxys or VPN's however, and so instead of stopping piracy, it could make it harder to catch.
Finally im will be free from this delusional, i hope they do it fast so i can be free from /a/
>>111269772
>>Why are you focusing on it? If it's cheap, they can buy, how can you be so sure?
Because failing shows have slashed prices before. It makes no difference.
>>111269758
>When you give us the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
Nice idea to pay them for free animu and mango.
*Russian OP*
>>111269880
You can go now.
>>111268413
speaking of IRC, i thought they have "infinite trial"? Seems like they're charging shekels after 30 days.I just used IRC
The biggest flaw with their logic is that they think that by taking down these streaming/torrent sites people will buy more shit. Even if it's just a hundred more sales, it's more than 0. In their mind this makes Crunchyroll (not including torrent sites like nyaa of course) the only way to watch anime. The real issue here is that Crunchyroll does not sub every new show, and they also don't sub shows that have already aired. Some sales for new stuff will increase, but the shows that aren't subbed will get swept under the rug completely, and will end up selling even less because the interest is no longer there. Shows that sold a measly 500 blu rays and flopped hard before will really suffer now. Shows like SAO on the other hand probably won't be affected at all. In the end big, ignorant businessmen win, and the industry suffers for its idiocy.
>>111268886
I don't really delve deep enough into sales and the like to provide any definitive proof, but if you look at how Kill La Kill (yes, I know, KLK is bad / a shit / etc.) is currently selling their product, you could say that anime like it is typically only bought by those that are obsessed.
Right now, they are selling BD with 4 episodes each on it, and they have a couple of extras sold with them. I believe the distributors are selling these at $60 a set? You'd have to be insane (or a collector, who is likely equally insane) to pay for each of these disks instead of waiting for a complete collection. The difference in price would probably be in the hundreds of dollars.
My comment isn't entirely relevant to the thread, but there is some circumstantial proof to his point, at least. (Keep in mind, I don't buy a lot of BDs or merch, so I don't know if that is what typically keeps the industry afloat or not.)
>>111270185
What the hell are you talking about?
>>111270310
Probably mirc
>>111268883
>browsed facebook to check for important announcement in the university.
>accidentally seen a fanpage that posting the same news about this whole anime and manga thing
>some people are worrying about fakku going down
>mfw
>>111270185
>/a/ - IRC newfags
>>111268413
learned how to use it once, shit was pretty easy.
Then I realized that I didn't even need xdcc since I had everything I needed on torrents.
>>111270371
Ah. If so, >>111270185, you might want to try another client (though I think you should be able to use mirc for free). HexChat is what I use, and it works nice on Windows.
>>111270591
XDCC is better than torrents though
>>111263334
>>111263515
>>111265587
>Don't worry guys, Daiz will safe us!
>>111270799
Well, that's nice.
Wanna give me the reasons?
>>111270799
Is XDCC similiar to Filetopia? I have never heard of the former, but from what I can gather in the thread, they seem at least vaguely similar.
>>111270799
Because you need some shitty client you must tune and use some retarded commands and other weird stuff?
>>111262910
>250 titles
>>111271111
>shitty client
What is utorrent?
>retarded commands
What is RSS?
>>111270986
>>111271111
Because you have a single bot you can send a message to without being dependent on other peers
>>111271082
Not really
>>111271270
The only good torrent client is µtorrent 2.2.1.
>>111271270
>What is utorrent?
1 click download.
>What is RSS?
A headache.
>>111271378
>you can send a message to without being dependent on other peers
Maybe for some extremely rare content.
>>111270197
I'm not paying for shit unless I get something physical.
Fuck "subscriptions" I live in Canada with shitty capped internet, so I'd be able to stream maybe 1 series a month.
I'd support the fuck out of the industry if they would release every anime with English subs and didn't charge an arm and a dick for a single series.
Even a 12 episode series will run around $300-400 before shipping. If you can get the boxset it's a bit cheaper, sort of.
TTGL Box was still like $450
Jojo was nearly $1000 for the LE's and shipping.
>>111271924
Their prices are bullshit, we know. I personally stick to $2/episode unless I really like the series.
>>111262910
>1st of August
>same day as some 3dpd movie distributors want to pressure the isps in my country to block various streaming sites and pirate bay
I'm too paranoid for this.
>>111263841
They do, but Hakuoki is licensed and torrents for it are still there.
>>111265823
Because Japan hates people watching their anime illegally, even if they can't watch it otherwise. Yeah, that includes you.
>>111272339
>my country
Russia?
Please stop explaining to newfags how to get animu.
This ongoing situation and what happened with Sadpanda should serve as a reminder to us all that the "secret club" mentality always was and always will be a good thing. If some idiot doesn't know how to XDCC and thinks torrents are better, just let him think that. You still know XDCC works great and you'll still have the option to use it in the unlikely event that BakaBT/nyaa/animebytes gets shut down. Tell them to lurk more.
>>111272597
No, AustriaThey want them banned because of a total of 3 movies no one even cares about.
>>111266560
fuckfuckfuckfuck
>>111267120
Don't forget Ken Akamtsu
Some japanese, like Miyazaki, think anime is shameful and should not be made available to gaijin because it damages Japan's reputation.
Miyazaki laments how when people think of Japan they think of rape cartoons made for otaku, who are the stinking anus of nippon.
really they should learn that first you have to set up a reliable way of flooding your entertainment abroad and THEN snap the trap shut.
>>111272632
It's not like telling /a/ will do anything, they still see IRC as shitpost heaven
>>111272687
Just like in Russia, where local movie industry is agonising and lobbying bans of all torrent sites because they want to sell their content.
>>111272632
Partially agreeing with you on the sekrit klub issue, but in the (very) unlikely event that those sites go down, clones of them will be up within a day. Bittorrent won't die unless the internet dies.
So there is no need to worry, the newfags will never, ever bother you ever again.:^)
In Japan the people know which anime to buy and support because they watch it on TV. In America if they somehow make it impossible to find torrents why would they expect us to buy their shit? They are targeting streaming and downloading site when that's the only way for us to watch anime without buying it. I don't understand their logic, but it must make sense.
>Japan tries to arrest some Chinese
>China Govt takes this as an action of attack
>China sinks Japan
>anime altogether is dead
>>111266444
>War Is A Hell
>A Hell
I hope this bitch gets sniped right through the gut.
>>111273053
You just don't wanna see the reality, are you? Scanlation is pretty much fucked up, rippers are next.
>>111273107
In that case we'll just watchChineseCartoons instead.
yeah man thats a really great idea Japan. Lets cut out the entire market outside of this tiny ass little island's pretend market. You know the potential foreign market who watch tv broadcasts who might buy stuff. Fuck those other people who try to buy expensive ass toys from those toy companies. Fuck the people who pay outlandish prices for stupid ass BD.
Lets just cut them all out. really great idea!
>>111273393
Do they know how much of a fucking chore it is to try and stream Tokyo MX live?
I'll always find a way to get my anime free. The internet is wonderful like that. It's too big to try and control it. China doesn't give a shit about Japan complaining their animu is getting pirated.
It might just be a bit harder to stream some anime now, but heck, I only stream when I watch anime on my phone.. Which is like... A couple of days per year.
This is one of the few instances where I appreciate living in a 3rd world dump of human trash. The government cant do shit even if they wanted to.
>>111268721
What part of "niche market" do you not understand?
>>111273393
But CR works pretty wellif you're in the US
>>111274767
the h
>>111274811
TOP SCORE
>>111272878
>implying most normies don't think of the prank shows, panty vending machines and technology when they hear Japan.
There's no need for websites in this actually. There's no way to stomp it out completely without personally attacking the people translating content and hoping nobody will take their place.
>>111272878
When I talk or think about Japan, I remember PEARL HARBOR
>>111274851
Nah, normalfags think of samurai.
>>111274851
I hear they usually think the train gropers
Is the the madokami FTP dead? Why don't I see threads anymore?
>>111274910
"The only way to defeat piracy, is become piracy itself."
- Twobeard, the pirate.
>>111274676
>3rd world dumpster
My nigga. Government here agreed on control piracy just to shut murrica up. They don't actually do anything to stop it because they know some people actually live from selling pirated dvds here.
>>111274927
I meant for modern Japan.
>>111274930
Ah yeah you're right, also the people who put cameras on their shoes.
The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
>>111268448
Music has millions of consumers. Anime has a few ten thousand at most.
>>111274921
Pearl Harbor was an amazing keikaku, Yamamoto was a goddamn genius, but he was out of luck.
>>111274968
Dead?
Save us, Daiz!
>>111275011
>The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
Well... you're a somewhat right. But only if cartoon network shows nowadays have outrageous amounts of fanservice, that it's just basically porn for kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhn3YKqMH3M
This video is way too much hilarious and I don't know why.
>>111275003BR?
>>111275058
Pearl Harbor was a good idea, but Midway was just Glorious Nippon setting her cunt on fire.
>>111275173
Fine, then the Japanese equivalent of South Park or Family Guy.
>>111275118
Are anons still uploading?
>>111262910
Why don't these morons ever realize that piracy and word of mouth is their primary and most effective form of advertisement abroad?
>>111275211
Nippon should've surrendered the moment they notice that Pearl Harbor didn't work.
>>111274676
Yeah. Here in flipland, the government dont really mind people possessing pirated videos and such as long as you dont distribute those things publicly.
>>111275184
It's funny because it's so earnest, yet so useless. Like a dog chasing its own tail.
>>111275232
It's only advertisement if you can't actually hold the box of coffee on your hand while you're learning about it.
>>111275232
What use is popularity if you can't monetize it?
It's always funny when the nipponese government does pro-anime stuff.
>>111275270
Pretty much.
>>111275267
> as long as you dont distribute those things publicly.
Hah, tell that to the Muslims.
It's over, just like the last time they tried this.
