>can block every ability whatsoever
>beats up several level 5 and other very strong people
>is considered a level 0
What the fuck is wrong with their system?
>>110660423
Read the LN and you will understand.
>>110660423
Maybe if you knew what the level system actually is you'd understand
Hint: blocking a power is not a power
Levels aren't based on strength.
>>110660530
>>110660558
An ability to block other abilities IS an ability
Their system is just really fucked up
>>110660423
Levels are based on what a person can do on his own.hand cant do anything on his own. so hes level 0.
>>110660423
His power can't be detected by the machines. Fuck off.
To be fair, if for any reason he doesn't block their attack, he's dead unless their attack is non fatal. Imagine Breaker isn't unbeatable. Also, realistically, he should have died ages ago but won't because main character
>>110660613
No, it isn't.
Do you even know how the powers on Academy City work?
>>110660423
Read the fucking books
Or you know watch the anime and not be a complete fucking retarded when they explicitly state why.
>>110660423
Why don't somebody just shoot him?
>>110660682
Yes. Personal reality and AIM and all that shit.
>>110660613
But is the said ability an Esper power?No
The scans of AC can't detect anything so he's a level 0
>>110660725
You're getting close, anon, good job!
Does Imagine Breaker produce AIM?
Does Touma have a personal reality?
>>110660719
someone did cut him up with a sword but plot armor made him miraculously survive
>>110660719
Shooting him would work. It's just that no one usually has a) had a gun around him or b) a reason to use it. The one time someone did they got talked out of it. But had they not been talked out of it, he'd be fucking dead.
>>110660719
Why don't i just shoot you?
![[HorribleSubs] Mahouka - 08 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.42_[2014.05.31_13.10.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/I4egUdM.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mahouka - 08 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.42_[2014.05.31_13.10.00].jpg")
>Can cause Nuke levels of destruction effortlessly
>Godlike magical abilities
>Genius
>Is a weed
What the fuck is wrong with their system?
>>110660758
>Does Imagine Breaker produce AIM?
Don't know
>Does Touma have a personal reality?
Probably
>>110660829
shit story boring characters.
>>110660423
He's power is actually so big that the machines simple can't read shit and give 0 as answer due poor programming
>>110660853
Well anon you clearly weren't paying attention then. You get a D for effort.
Go rewatch the first season, or better than that, read the books.
TouMAN thread?
>>110660423
System Scan... scans AIM, the invisible things that esper emits.
As Touma negates his AIM despite having his mind and body tampered with like every other kid in Academy City, he is a level 0 and will as such until someone takes away Imagine Breaker for him, which is impossible since it likes being on Touma and it gives him his hand or arm back whenever someone removes it.
This is why he is called the weakest level 0 because his power will never manifest.
>>110660829
} hate this show because of him. I dont mind op, but this nigga is to freaking sue.
>>110660960
Rensa has clearly proven that his power is Exploding Limbs
We still need to know what level he is though
I'm going to laugh if, at the end of the series, Touma's killed by someone shooting him. There is absolute no reason why putting a bullet through his head wouldn't work. Especially if it was a sniper and he didn't even know you were there. I doubt even any of his Level 5 buddies could protect him from a random sniper.
>>110660798
How fucked was it that the one reasonable person in the entire world who is willing to have a rational conversation and discuss things without resorting to violence is an American.
I mean I know it's fiction, but come the fuck on that shit is less believable than all the magic and bullshit technobabble
>>110660829
Because the tests are for Babby-tier magic and he just can't do that.
>>110660423
AIM Dispersion Field
>>110660423
>>110660829
>guy regarded as a failure/underdog despite having BS hax ability due to dumb plot technicality
>>110661018
Level 10 "the one who destroys the limbs of god"
>>110661018
That is the worst power to ever have next to having good penmanship.
>>110661034
I know. America would be the most likely to blow his brains out and not even give him a chance to talk, never mind listen to what he had to say
>>110660719
Plot armor
>>110661118
Touma is the hero of Hawaii so the least the President can do is humor him.
>>110660896
It's like 3 years ago that I watched the anime.
I'm happy that I still know that AIM shit.
>>110661100
Considering Heaven Canceler is his doctor, it'd work nicely if he's ever chained or tied up somewhere
Explode your limbs, run away, get shit patched up, ready to punch motherfuckers in the face again
>>110660719
Because they already did by the second novel in fact.
>>110660719
Precognition, plot armor, and most of his opponents being too prideful to resort to using guns to beat him.
I was really disappointed in the Boss Rush. I felt that the fight against the Russians, and how he out thought Almighty Thor were the only two good parts.
>>110661235
>yfw SS had Touma wanting a use a gun against Skill-Out
>fucking Misaka mama destroys his plan
>>110661189
So? That doesn't negate the fact he was now helping the one in charge of the people who were responsible for Hawaii. No amount of "m-muh waifu" will change what she did and the fact he was protecting her
>>110661211
Nigger read the fucking books. The anime stops just short of one of the most hype parts of the story.
You will never learn to love the End of the Century Emperor
Where did TouMAN learn to street brawl like that?
His punches hurt like fuck.
>>110661261
Same. The only reason he survived was the fact his opponents weren't serious or he had help. He wouldn't have even been able to beat Accelerator had he really wanted Touma dead.
>>110660829
>supposedly gary stu
>can't even use lowest levels of magic
What is wrong with Kyousuke?
>>110660829
i fucking love his tomboy redhead friend
how the fuck is he a siscon
How the fuck did Accelerator take so many punches from Touma. He's a scrawny albino who probably has never really strained his muscles. He should be on the ground crying after the first punch
>>110660423
I was confused about this as well at first, but then I realized that his hand, Imagine Breaker or whatever, is actually related to magic and not being an esper power. So yeah, it's bullshit.
>>110661472
He's not THAT weak. In NT10 he straight up takes a punch from Touma and doesn't even flinch
Season 3 of Index and Railgun, when?
>>110661518Hopefullynever.
>>110661518either soon or never
>>110661472
He manipulated them vectors to keep himself up.
>>110661518
A Certain Edgy Accelerator
>>110660423
>What the fuck is wrong...
the writer's brain
>>110660758
>AIM is a weak energy that is unconsciously emitted by espers.
>AIM dispersion fields are apparently unique to the type of esper ability, as well as to the individual themselves. A few examples
>Pyrokinesis espers heat up their surroundings, telekinesis espers create pressure, and electromasters release electromagnetic fields.
So just put Touma in a controlled environment and test out how much AIM he negates. His quantity of AIM would be the dampening/negation of heat from a pyrokynetic or pressure from telekinetic in the area etc. . Then you can grade what level of an "ability canceller" he is.
Power nullifiers aren't really hard to imagine, there's a lot of them in fiction. How come AC doesn't set up tests for power nullifiers?
>>110661518
Not enough material
Do I need to watch index before watching railgun?
>>110661560
>We get 2 seasons of Accel
>So we can have lament never getting a 3rd season for that too
>>110661685
No, but if you watch Railgun stop on season two episode 17
>>110661574
>How come AC doesn't set up tests for power nullifiers?
Aleister probably wanted to keep him low-key with the general populace.
>>110661574
Theoretically that would work but you have to understand that Touma is a Super Special Snowflake that Aleister wants to keep tucked away for keikaku
>>110661714
Entire first season Sisters arc
>>110661518
Wait what, Railgun has a second season?
>>110661574
>How come AC doesn't set up tests for power nullifiers?
Because Touma might be the only one with such a power and the founder of Academy City wants him for his ultimate keikaku, so I doubt he wants IB to be known by everyone.
>>110661685
Yes. Then skip Railgun S1 and drop S2 when Febreze shows up.
>>110661790
No it has 17 episodes
>>110661574
>Power nullifiers aren't really hard to imagine, there's a lot of them in fiction. How come AC doesn't set up tests for power nullifiers?
In japanese X-Men power nullification isn't part of the syllabus because the author wants Touma to be the only one with an ability like that. To make him "special".
>>110661685
Here you go
>>110661574
He has no fucking AIM.
IB isn't an Esper power.
>>110661874
>japanese X-Men
Stop trying to force this /co/ It's Japanese Harry Potter
because he can punch the shit out of espers all he wants yet could still be beaten by being shanked by some nigger in a back alley
come on nigger I haven't even seen/read raildex and I know this
>>110661874
I thought Jap X-men was Tokyo ESP?
>>110661370
Touma's been in a ton of street fights.
>>110661911
>IB isn't an Esper power.
What then?
Touma's going to either die, cease to exist, or become something other than human by the end of this series. Discuss.
>>110661732
>>110661782
>>110661792
Obviously those are the in-universe reasons but the real reason is >>110661874
I still need to know what the fuck that dragon thing was.
>>110662064
Chorozon
>>110661729
>>110661837
>>110661886
I am confused.
>>110661574
He doesn't produce AIM nor does he have a Personal Reality. He's not an esper.
He's not a Gemstone either because those also have AIM and Personal Realities, even if they're not artificial like the espers.
He's not a magician either because he doesn't have any kind of theory behind his power.
The Imagine Breaker is a force of nature.
I get that he can negate supernatural but why no one bothered to use their magic powers to kill him indirectly
>>110662108
What do you not fucking understand from the pic you moron?
Just watch the eps in the order given you retard
>>110661574
Because an ability that nullifies other abilities is a walking logic bomb. If you had a power that negated AIM, it would negate itself because it's also derived from AIM.
To begin with, the reason that Touma is a Level 0 is because Imagine Breaker isn't an esper power. It's something entirely different and therefore doesn't fit under Academy City's classifications.
>>110662108
Follow the pic, but in Railgun II stop watching at episode 17. Not that complicated.
>>110662108
Railgun anime has a fuckton of filler that the fanbase hates. Just read the manga if you're interested.
To properly understand the first arc of Railgun you'd need to have at least S1 knowledge of Index.
>>110662095
Everyone does, except Aleister
>>110662064
No one really knows for sure what exactly Imagine Breaker is, just how it works and can be used.
>>110662127
They have, lots of times
>>110662127
Also esper powers. If someone used their power (whatever it might be) to drop something really heavy on him, he'd die as long as the thing they dropped on him actually existed and isn't a product of their power. As long as they kept away from him, they could try again if they missed
>>110662171
What will happen after ep 17? Endless eight all over again?
>>110662208
Kazakiri must look like a rainbow to her
>>110662230
Accelerator tried throwing things at him, he just dodged
>>110662258
Shitty anime-original arc that screws with the canon timeline
>>110662230
Touma hasn't fought any telekinetics, unless you count Accelerator.
>>110662208
She looks like Fiamma in that last panel...
>>110662322
God damn it. Now I can't unsee it.
>>110662064
So far, we only know that it has been existing for generations, each time taking a different form (one time it was a sword, this time is Touma's arm) and that it works as a referece point for the world, which means that it's the answer for the magicians's wish of something that can make the world go back to its original state if they fuck it up too much with their magic.
Also, it's pretty possible that IB is nothing but a prison for the dragon-thing that appears everytime IB it's severed from Touma's arm.
>>110662282
You missed the "as long as they can stay away from him, you can try again". Theoretically, his worst enemy is an esper that can tank a few punches and is fast enough to stay out of combat range. He can't permanently destroy their power, and as long as he doesn't knock them out, they can just keep trying until they hit him. Touma would wear himself out before they would.
>>110661911
>AIM
>An Involuntary Movement
>the physical effects that is unconsiously produced by an esper's power
>IB's effect is that it disrupts/dampens other people's AIM
You CAN measure and test the AIM of IB. The AIM of IB is the quantity of AIM negated. Zero AIM in a vacuum but observable and testable in the presence of esper powers other than itself or abilities in the same class.
Can't stop science bitch.
>>110661795
On one hand I don't know why he goes and defends a god after she killed and tortured him thousands of times
But on the other hand it's TouMAN so I am really just not surprised at all.
>>110662448
IB can't have an AIM, otherwise it would negate itself, and therefore not exist.
>>110662446
Yes, I know that it's the most sound option, I'm just saying people have tried, but if you read the books you'd know Touma can perma dodge things becausefuck you that's whyhe has precognition
>>110662448
No, it isn't. Rensa, the cyborg who copies powers by the molecule tried mimicking the IB and her arm blew up
>>110662448
IB isn't an esper power. Even if they knew to try something like that, they would first have to know that Touma has the ability to negate supernatural phenomena like esper powers.
>>110662537
>Rensa
God I really don't want to reread the books, but for the life of me this and so many other things I have forgotten about.
>>110662537
Precog would only get him so far. Again, he'd wear himself out eventually. Most likely before the esper. Remember, this is an esper that can tank punches. Not an esper that's not used to fighting physically
>>110662634
She was only like 3 books back, I have no idea how you could have forgotten her.
>>110662446
>Theoretically, his worst enemy is an esper that can tank a few punches and is fast enough to stay out of combat range.
Thor was a fighter so he was used to taking punches and he had an ability that would put him in a position in which he would always be the one dealing the blow while avoiding Touma's attack.
And Touma defeated using a train.
You understimate Touma's intelligence. He would lose in a fair fight, but he is not the kind that thursts in his strenght and just fights, he is constantly pulling trick and trying to fuck up his opponent's mind.
>>110662680
I watch anime for 16-18 hours a day every day. I put so much shit into my head that it is hard to keep track of it.
>>110662691
*defeated him using
*tricks
>>110662634
NT7, the least interesting part
Fucking Fremea saves the day.
>>110662664
I guess we're talking about Accelerator here?
Yeah, if Accelerator or any other kind of smart esper just indirectly attacked and chipped away at Touma's stamina they'd eventually win, but these people:
- have never seen the IB so they don't know how it works/how to deal with it; or
- are so mentally exhausted/broken they can't come up with better things; or
- are losing on purpose, as was Accelerator's case during NT10
>>110660423
>What the fuck is wrong with their system?
its based on how useful you are to the city.
If you are not useful to the city you have lower rank.
His ability cant be leveled up either.
>>110662691
To be fair, Thor was still in fighting condition after the train. He just decided to give up and let Touma have the win.
>>110662691
Touma didn't win, Thor dodged the train because Touma felt the need to do a one-liner
Thor walked away merely liking the fact that he gained XP since he's now aware that using the environment is effective against him.
>>110662778
You're confusing the Level 5 rankings with levels.
>>110662767
We could be talking about Accelerator or any esper that could use their power to move large, heavy objects. But yes, you're right, the reasons you just listed are the only reasons Touma has so many victories.
>>110662778
The IB is part of like 99% of Aleister's plans, directly or indirectly. There's a proper book quote but I can't be arsed to find it since I don't remember in which book it is.
>>110662815
What? I remember him getting run over by the train and saying that it was Touma's win after that.
>>110662905
He did get run over, though he still could have kept fighting. He figured he got enough experience out of it and didn't need to fight anymore.
>>110662905
Defeating Almighty Thor had not been his goal. Othinus had to take her eye from the lake and abandon her power.
Suddenly, a male voice spoke from the slight space between the bottom of the train and the ground.
“Hey.”
“Thor!!!???”
All of Kamijou’s hair stood on end. He had not been trying to kill Thor, but there was nothing else he could do if the boy could get up after that. That surprise attack would not work a second time.
Thor was covered in blood, but he appeared to be in one piece.
He had no special ability beyond freely twisting and moving the world, so his body was no sturdier than a normal person’s. That meant the freight train had not directly hit him.
He may have switched out his “target” at the last second, avoided a direct hit, and “fled” under the train.
>>110662905
>>110662974
Yeah, I just checked.
He took impact, but used his ability to avoid getting all of it.
>>110662905
Thor could have continued the fight if he wanted to, but simply chose not to. The trick wouldn't have worked twice either, Touma admitted that he was basically fucked if Thor was still able to keep going.
>>110663004
Which isn't such a bullshit thing when you think about it from Thor's point of view. He has been waiting for someone to fight that would actually give him XP, and now that he knows Touma can delivery he is going to farm him.
If Touma hadn't lived up to his expectations, there is a chance Thor would have killed him.
>>110662527
>IB can't have an AIM, otherwise it would negate itself, and therefore not exist.
IB does have AIM (according to the definition at least, author intention aside). AIM is the unconsious physical effects caused by an esper power. Pyrokinetics cause the local area to heat up, Telekinetic causes pressure and IB causes those afromentioned effects to be negated. It's just that effects of IB isn't observable and testable in a vacuum.
>>110663090
IB isn't an Epser power
>>110663090
Except IB isn't an esper power at all, so any side effects it has isn't AIM.
>>110663090
>by an esper power
Yeah, which IB isn't. It doesn't fall under the magic or science sides.
>>110662778
How much thought did the author put in the level system and can we get a bunch of /tg/ autists to cook up a better one?
>>110661574
>test out how much AIM he negates
Aleister already does that. The bottom line is that IB is not esper-related, so you can't measure it using the esper system. Imagine measuring the IQ of a rock.
>>110663174
fa/tg/uys
we are /a/utists
It's pretty basic and serves it's purpose.
>>110663174
It works alright until you hit Level 5. Then things get weird. A level 6 is a universal shithead, so anything below that and above level 4 is still just a level 5. An Esper that can crash galaxies together would be in the same category as Biribiri.
>>110663174
No, it's you who hasn't put any thought into anything. The levels work fine are are based on objective measurements and subjective power. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.
I want to hear some of you guys' theories on how you think this is going to end. There's always a few interesting ones every time this question gets posted
>>110663430
Touma dies.
>>110663430
Common theories are
>All the supernatural powers go away
>Touma ded
>Accelerator ded/gone to a higher plane of existence
>Hamazura's always fine
>Academy City dismantled
>>110663430
Recovers his memories, remembers his first love Fukiyose, says fuck it all and runs away with her to become a Cliff Diver in a Casa Bonita in Boulder Colorado
>>110663430
Chronozon Touma is last boss.
>>110663430
Aleister goes upside up again after his keikaku goes full doori, but then through a bunch of shenanigans and shonen fights Touman wins
However the consequences of the plan are not gone, and the whole world is surrounded by AIM and every single person is an esper, killing every magician out there but the lucky ones
>>110663127
>>110663131
>>110663149
Look, it doesn't matter esper power or alien power or whatever.
The thing is that it behaves like any other of the various japanese X-Men power (it leaves a physical effect aka AIM). You CAN observe, test and measure it.
Once you've done all that you can put a level on it.
Look I know the author wants to make IB special and all that, I'm just saying that if you logically think about it there's no reason why the scientists couldn't properly test it, group it along with abilities of the same nature and assign it a level.
>>110663440
>>110663507
For some reason, I can't help but think Accelerator and Touma will share the same fate. I can't imagine Touma living while Accelerator dying or Touma dying while Accelerator living. I can't even explain why. I just believe that whatever happens to one will inevitably happen to the other
>>110663515
>Katze and Touma broing it up in Colorado
Touma steals/is given by a Kihara who falls in love with him all of AC's technological secrets. He gives it to America, who builds metric shit tons of HSB-07s and powered armor. They conquer the world and a new era of peace begins.
>>110661670
It has like 20 more books
>>110663648
No it doesn't
>>110663430
Index wins the Toumab owl.
Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
>>110663648
AIM is a thing the people produce while not using their power
Touma doesn't produce shit while he's not 'using his power'
>>110663648
You can also test and measure Innocentius, the Holy Right, or Fraulein Kerutune, but they are not esper-related. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.
>>110663712
Episode 1: Constantine
Episode 2: Battle Royale
Episode 3: Full Tuning
Episode 4: More Battle Royale
Episode 5: Acqua of the Back
Episode 6: Gemstone Incident
Episode 7: English Civil War
Episode 8: Dragon
Episode 9-11: WWIII
Episode 12: Shopping Mall + Liberal Arts Railgun Double Side Story
Episode 13: Saten's New Jeans
Episode 14: Freshmen
Episode 15: Homecoming
Episode 16: Hawaii
Episode 17: Baggage City
Episode 18-19: Ichihanaransai
Episode 20: Agitate Halation
Episode 21: Lance of Gungnir
Episode 22: World Alpha, World Beta, a few bonus worlds
Episode 23: World Omega + Othinus Fight
Episode 24: Boss Rush
>>110663648
Because Crowley, that's honestly the only reason.
Imagine Breaker is well known among the top scientists in the city, it's considered similar to Deep Blood and Gunha in being weird and unexplainable. And Crowley's not going to let any Kiharas touch Touma to see how he ticks.
Fiamma just got a tiny glimpse of what that hand really is, and Crowley left his tube for the first time in 50 years and ripped his arm off.
>>110663778
Nope. There are lots of supernatural things that aren't related to esper powers.
>>110663648
Yes, you can do all that, but that doesn't mean you can classify it using the Academy City system. If that were the case, things like magic and other unrelated phenomena would also be considered esper powers.
Never mind that AIM is an actual tangible thing that makes up AIM fields, it's not merely the observed effects of esper abilities.
>>110663230
>serves it's purpose
Dude this is the same system that put a healing/regenerator guy at level 0.
>>110663768
The mere thought of how rushed things would need to be for this to work makes me shit my pants.
>>110663768
Gets me every time
>>110663737
I'm not sure about "winning Touma" but I think that people who think Index is actually irrelevant and not a plot point being saved are delusional
>>110663834
>tangible
tan·gi·ble
?tanj?b?l/
adjective
adjective: tangible
1. perceptible by touch.
>>110663853
Level 1
And his healing ability is limited to throwing a patch over a few burst blood vessels.
>>110663853
He has no control over his power and he can't make it work by itself (it's reaction-based)
>>110663895
Nah, he's level 0.
He's led a rough life as well. Will Tsuchi have a happy ending?
>>110663895
You can touch Kazakiri and she's made out of AIM
>>110663914
I got pretty mad at Othinus and Touma for barely mentioning Tsuchi in NT9. The last interaction those two had was Touma punching him so much he passed out while believing Maika was dead, for fuck's sake
>>110663853
You have no idea how Tsuchimikado's power works.
>>110663895
And you have no idea what AIM is, and how it differs from other "powers" like Telesma or Magic Power.
Can someone explain this picture to me?
I don't get why metal gear is sitting in a corner jerking it. It this a /v/ meme or soemthing?
>>110663914
He's dead
>>110663895
>“When you grow older, you’ll understand that this AIM is An Involuntary Movement…which also means ‘no awareness’. And the AIM diffusion field means the same thing. It’s like body temperature, an energy field that naturally radiates out from an esper.”
>>110663958
Not even Othinus can give Tsuchi a happy world.
>>110663958
>You can touch Kazakiri and she's made out of AIM
Touma can't and since he is my self insert I can't. She is intangible to me.
>>110660423
Maybe the fact you can just shoot him?
>>110664039
He can, just not with his right hand
>>110663998
Looks like anon simply isn't old enough.
>>110663768
I can't even tell if this would be a glorious trainwreck, or just a sad one, Christ why couldn't we have had Sunrise adapting Index, like Horizon?
Help me out here.
Before Touma's "You're not living your life correctly!" line, isn't there like a little speech? Aren't there a few lines leading up to having that particular line as the conclusion? I remember seeing some gif that had letters moving around to painfully slowly give out a few sentences that led up to the "You're not living your life correctly!" line, and I remember liking whatever it was I read but not liking its format and how slow it was. I figured I'd be able to find that little speech again later, so I didn't save the gif, and now I'm really regretting it.
I've looked up the line on various sites, and I've yet to find its context. Could someone give me the full speech, or at least the series and episode number in which it appears so I can look it up myself?
>>110663768
>WWIII in three episodes
This could either be hilarious or just depressing.
>>110661018
Wouldn't it be precognition though? He's got some form of it that's okay with Imagine Breaker and it's a plot armor ability that'd be pretty useful if he ever loses IB.
>>110664139
>http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume13_Chapter10#Part_6
>>110664139
Somewhere in the second half of Index 2.
He never actually says that line in the LN, it's kind of funny he's so well known for it.
>>110664139
“A child of less than 10 saw a family member injured while he was dying and not thinking clearly! Anyone would agree to it if they were asked in that state!! This was just the opinion of a small child. What value does that have!? If they didn’t have enough blood, they should have given it to him! They should have used my own blood if they still didn’t have enough!!”
Kamijou’s expression did not change in the slightest.
He stared Vento directly in the eye through the pouring rain.
“It did have value,” he said while spitting on the ground. “Even if it was only the opinion of a small child, that decision is why you are still alive today! That’s enough value right there!! And aren’t you the one who needs to understand that value more than anyone else!?”
“Don’t be ridiculous!! Is that supposed to comfort me!? I took his life to survive!!”
“Could you say that same thing to someone in the same circumstances!?”
“!!”
Vento gasped.
Kamijou continued speaking to bear down on her further.
“I wouldn’t be able to. And that’s why I’m arguing with you!! This isn’t how you should be living your life! I don’t know what kind of person you brother was, but he did something I couldn’t. Your brother did the most amazing thing in the world there!! Are you going to disgrace that decision!? Are you going to waste those words of his by claiming he died hating science!?”
“…Don’t make me laugh,” said Vento of the Front while barely moving her lips. “Do you think words like that can change what path I take? I have decided to take this path. That isn’t going to change because of someone who only just now learned about it!!”
You're probably thinking of the gif that just bundles up a bunch of speeches from Touma, though, but I don't have that
>>110664171
In his case it's not really a power, more muscle memory
>>110664139
I think it was Touma's speech to Agnese Sanctis during the arc in which she was introduced.
Touma speech alwats changes, the "You are not living your life correctly" and "I'll break that illusion of yours" are the only parts that aren't changed in every speech.
>>110664219
He technically does, but it's translated differently in the LN.
>>110664139
You mean this?
Also fun fact, he never actually says "You're not living your life correctly" in the novels
>>110664284
Yeah, that's mainly just the speech he made to Accelerator with a few other things thrown in.
>>110664139
I can't seem to find the gif. But it was the speech he gave accelerator in their 2nd fight with "You're not living your life correctly" tacked on to the end.
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>>110664284
Here's the speech
Fist and wings collided.
The air shook, many attacks impacted, and blood flew out.
“Does a Level 0 like me really seem that incredible?! Hero? Villain? Stop kidding around! Can’t you save someone if you’re not standing at that spot?! In front of your eyes are people that don’t wish to cry that are crying! In front of your eyes are people that can only clench their teeth while struggling and can’t even say the words ‘please save me’! Is that not enough!! Just step up already!! You don’t need special positions or reasons!! With these, you can step up and be a shield for them!!” After letting out those words, the Level 0 became stronger.
Those words weren’t just directed at Accelerator.
His words also slashed away at his own uncertainty.
“I don’t know what you’re trying to protect, nor do I know what you have been hurt by. But, if you want to protect that child then do so with your chest held high!! Here and now, be proud in knowing that you are protecting her!! This is your life right? Then decide for yourself!! If you want to protect everything with your hands then do so, if you want to abandon everything then do so. But, what do you yourself want to do right now?! Can you really be satisfied giving your most important thing to someone else that you don’t really understand?!”
Explosions erupted.
[...]
“Whether it be pride or whatever, for whatever can make you hold your chest up high, just choose already!!”
>>110663882
Of course she is going to be important. There's a lot of mistery about her and unpike Mikoto, she' actually integral for the story despite not appearing lately.
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>>110664284
Holy shit you guys are super helpful. Thank you!
And >>110664284 was the very gif I was looking for. Awesome.
LN writing. Don't bother.
>girls won't ever tell touma he has a magical penis
>touma will always be bad at sex compared to other magicians and espers
>he can never masturbate furiously while having some magic enhance his sensitivity or enjoyment
Why does he even bother to fucking live?
>>110664484
Based TouMAN.
>>110664603
>Holy shit you guys are super helpful.
We were trained in the ways of the TouMAN.
>>110664633
The last time he tried committing suicide, someone stopped him. His luck would probably find a way to fuck it up somehow.
>>110664691
Technically he just failed at it and then Will-chan told him to stop being a pansy and fight for himself for once
>>110664743
God she is such a best.
Why does a girl as sweet as her never have a chance at finding her own happiness?
>>110664772
She'll be quite happy at the end of the series when Touma and Accelerator survive and end up in stable, happy lives
>>110664772
That's the price of being the enemy of the entire world i guess?
>>110664772
The fact that she's a thought entity without a real body and technically half-dead helps
>>110664772
She's the clones. As long as Touma consensually loves and marries a clone and has 2.5 children, she'll be happy.
>>110664691
I find it kinda funny, and sad that even if Will-tan hadn't shown up, his suicide still would've failed due to the gondola being on the way, I'm sure he would've started sobbing in the fetal position once he realized that his luck won't even let him kill himself
>>110664824
Touma doesn't return the feelings of the clones. Or anyone really.
>>110664862
He would had kept jumping and lannding in gondolas until he reached the floor.
>>110664862
He just has to jump off the gondola. He only didn't because he wanted to know who the hell kicked him in the back.
>>110664915
You just know some flying esper would have rescued him and a bunch of people would surround him asking why would he suicide and generally try to cheer him up, which would just add salt to the wound and make Touma regret everything ever
>>110664915
Just imagine it though, you've prepared yourself to the utmost limit to finally kill yourself, and then when it's finally the big moment, bam, it failed because a gondola just happened to be on the way, as if the very world itself wanted to keep him suffering
>>110660677
>realistically
You failed.
Now leave.
>>110664824
The clones probably won't live long enough to experience that kind of happiness. They are probably set to expire after Crowley is done with them. They'll probably collectively sacrifice themselves to turn Accel or Mikoto into a stable level 6 who can actually contribute in the final battle of magic gods.
>>110665047
The Magic Gods were all defeated already, by Aleister, off-screen
>>110664965
>"Ehh?! What would you do that idiot? Don't do something like that! *sparks*
>"Tch, what are you doing you shithead? Here, i'll help you, I guess."
>"Oh, it's the spiky haired boy from the park. Kanzaki-san, Stiyl-san, can we take him out to eat?"
Oh god, he'd just sit there crying.
>>110665102
Aleister pls, don't you have a city to be running?
>>110665102
We don't know this. I doubt Aleister would have challenged him unless he thought he could make it out alive, but that doesn't mean he defeated them
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>>110665047
I imagine the clones are actually intended to die regardless of who or what kills them or how many times they are saved
>>110665181
Aleister, we need to talk to you about taxes and the city's sewage system. Can you stop floating ominously for a moment?
>>110665147
Aleister makes the Magic Gods into espers and they explode trying to use magic
>>110665102
I'm sure the Magic gods have beaten the shit out of Aleister and now he's crying in his tube full of semen.
>>110663984
it's from a drawfag thread, someone asked for it i think
>>110665265
It's possible the fight was a draw. Or a "lol we don't want to fight you because you're funny now go"
>>110665047
Mikoto is never going to be important.
>>110665226
Bitch, this is what I have the Board of Directors for, talk to me when you have something important to discuss, and bring some cocaine while you're at it
Why don't they just shoot him?
So what are your guys' guesses as to what the upcoming Railgun arc will be about?
>>110665316
Yes she will or she wouldn't be in the damn story
>>110665228
Magic Gods make Aleister into a magic god and he explodes because he made modifications on himself so that he won't become one.
>>110665198
Every girl in the series is retarded.
>>110665345
Bullets are a vector. Vectors are an epser power. Imagine Breaker negates all Esper powerss
>>110665345
They did
>>110665363
I'm guessing Dolly. Or maybe an arc that falls in line with the Accelerator manga
>>110665370
So Deep Blood is important?
>>110665452
Aleister personally asked Stiyl to use IB to save her, you know she is
>>110665452
Deep Blood isn't in the fucking story anymore
>>110665333
Sir, Accelerator killed all the Directors again. Also, the Kiharas have a new project for you. They're calling it "Necrophilia Enabler".
>>110665452
To be fair, Himegami can never be important because the point of her character is that she can never be the heroine.
>>110665370
She is a secondary character that has no relation to Imagine Breaker or the main conflicts of the series.
>>110665489
Goddamnit someone keep the damn kids and bloody Kiharas under control. I'm fucking Laura.
>>110665522
>Implying vampires won't kill Crowley and become the new antagonists
>>110665522
She is connected to her Sisters and by association to Accelerator. And her relation to Imagine Breaker is that she wants to protect him. So she will be involved and no about of babbyrage and hate will change that
>>110665533
>Laura
I want to play with her hair
I think people that legitimately believe Mikoto and Index won't be important are fucking stupid.
>>110665777
People who only read this for haremshit shipping wars and flavor of the month girls are going to get BTFO when no romance happens and Index and Mikoto help save Touma and Accelerator
>>110662115
>He doesn't produce AIM nor does he have a Personal Reality.
>no personal reality
So Touma doesn't have a brain and he isn't human.
Wow, what a dumb story.
>>110666025
Do you even know what a Personal Reality is?
>>110666025
You don't understand how Personal Realities work, do you?
>>110666055
A person's subjective view of what reality is to them.
>>110666025
>>110665777
Index yes. Mikoto nope. She's not even powerful to be useful when the heavy hitters appear.
>>110666134
We are talking about the Raildex concept of "Personal Reality".
Just because they are called like that doesn't means it's the same as the IRL definition of "personal reality".
Why even bother discussing if you don't know shit about Raildex?
>>110666134
You literally have no idea about how anything in this franchise works. Stop posting.
>>110666191
No one said Mikoto's going to be the one that kicks everyone's ass. But she's still going to be important in some way. She'll either figure out some kind of hole in something in a way that involves no power or she will die and fuel Touma, Accelerator, or both of them into doing something. There's also the chance she could get a power up
>>110666430
>But she's still going to be important in some way
Comic Relief is very important to keeping the story entertaining.
>>110666430
She did get a power-up, but she then proceeded to be less impressive than a freshly de-brained Accel, and promptly had it taken away.
>>110666518
Way to disregard the rest of my post. I know you probably don't like her and I hate the relationship she has with Touma, but you can't seriously tell me you believe she will do absolutely nothing.
>>110666562
She still has her Mecha, right?
>>110666605
Why should I regard any of your fan fiction?
She is fucking irrelevant outside of being a running gag. Tsundere failing to get the guy=Head Crabbage
Except you know Index is actually useful when Kamachi needs her to be.
>>110666651
Yes I do believe she will ultimately accomplish nothing of real note. Mikoto is the mid-tier line. Mid-tiers can no longer effect the larger story. Even you admit that she cannot accomplish anything more than dying, as the story stands.
>>110666669
Okay so you want to call plausible theories "fanfiction". I'm going to call the fact you so ardently believe she's actually irrelevant outside her shit comedy scenes fanfiction. Unless she is killed or comatose when Crowley puts Touma and her Sisters in danger, she will immediately run and try to do something. Even if she fails and gets killed, that is still important motivation for the surviving characters that see it or hear about it, since all of them have at the very least a loose connection with her.
>>110666866
Yeah, her attempting to do something and dying is a possibility. But that's also not the only possibility. Even if that happens you know good good and well it won't be a "lol she died" scene. It's going to be used to fuel another character's motivation or accomplish something else.
>>110666887
>theories
>Not fan fiction because really really super duper want them to be real so I will ignore the story and all the evidence it has shown so that mai waifu is the best and most super important one ever
Cry louder and maybe papa Miki will give you a nice tsunservice sucker to have in the next volume
>>110667016
Fodder is fodder. If she dies just trying to accomplish anything of note, then that is all she is and all she ever was.
She can't even try to be fodder anyways because there are too many Mikotofags to kill her off.
