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http://utw.me/2014/07/08/summer-2014-and-beyond
Where were you when UTW died, /a/?
>>110027433
Within the next 5 years all fansubbing will be dead and the only thing that will remain is crunchyroll
>people gave them $4,000
>>110027694
>people gave this guy $33,000
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
>>110027832
At least those people will get to eat some potato salad.
So they're still doing 2wei?
>>110027433
>>110028035
But we still have other fansubs groups. You must be one of those faggots who think UTW is the pinnacle of quality fansubbing.
I know CR is still going to provide us an easy source in the future but it's just not the fucking same.
>>110027941
No, they won't.
>>110028079
And you must be the one of those faggots who think Crunchyroll and Daisuki are the pinnacle of quality subbing in general
>>110028079
UTW is not the first to go, nor will it be the last.
>>110027433
Well, I can't blame him for wanting to have a life instead of being yelled at by autists. People grow up.
Medical school is not really compatible with fansubbing, and CR provides a pretty decent alternative. Now other groups can start up with only encoding and typesetting knowledge and do a good job.
>>110028079
>Implying almost all other groups aren't just CR re-encodes.
UTW will be missed;-;
They probably put out the most consistent quality work
>>110028186
The only groups besides UTW that did original translations are gg and Hadena and both are dead.
Fansubbing truly is extinct though Hadena could hardly be considered a "quality" group.
>>110028128
You don't get my point. I said we still have other fansubs groups. You are exaggerating with that "The Day Fansubbing Died" filename as if UTW is the only group that matters, faggot.
>>110027694
If only /a/ had donated $4000 to Your-Mom or gg. Fansubbing would have been saved.
>>110028259
UTW and Underwater are the only groups that matter and UTW is gone
>>110028259
Except you don't quite understand what "fansubbing" is do you? UTW is/was the last group that actually had original translations for their subs. Every other "fansub" group that you use just utilize Crunchyroll's scripts.
>>110028256
>The only groups besides UTW that did original translations are gg and Hadena
You are wrong. There are others that sometimes use original translations instead of CR edits. Not every shows from a particular group get the same treatment, you know.
>>110028331
>UTW is/was the last group that actually had original translations for their subs
Wrong again.
>>110028289
>not Eclipse
I miss them more every season ;_;
>>110028289
>gg
I'm not glad they're dead but I'm glad they're gone.
Eclipse, Mazui and UTW. These were the only subgroups I'd use, and I'm saddened to see the state we're now in.
HorribleSubs is indeed horrible, and I wish it never existed.
>>110027433
Time to into moon.
>>110028560
HS is not a fansub group.
Fansubbers are obsolete. Horriblesubs and BDs for archival purposes are all you need.
>>110028637
That doesn't give you amazing video quality. You'd have to deal with shitty raws
So we will never get the final half of the Shin Sekai Yori BD's?
>>110028663
I thought people re-encoded them?
Why doesn't CR sub the OP/ED?
Contractual?
>>110028331
Like Underwater last season with Kanojo ga Flag, Atelier, and Sidonia?
>>110028560
What about underwater?
FFF, Underwater, and Vivid are all we have left now.
>>110028726
That faggot is just pulling shit out of his ass. Even Vivid this season has one show with original translations.
http://vividsubs.github.io/aldnoah.htm
Unless he decide to act like the faggot he is and does not believe that because >muh UTW mindset.
>SYD finished never
Will they at least finish SYD?
>>110027832
Still a better deal than most kickstarter campaigns.
Will Crunchyroll ever have any competition or will they keep monopolizing the subbing industry forever?
>>110028924
Netflix with their 'original show'.
>>110028750
I don't care for them, and not just because of Diaz who decided to change encoding because he wanted to reduce filesizes by a couple of MB in an age where 1 GB is cheaper than something from a vending machine. Not to mention muh quality because everyone wants to preserve TV airing for some fucking reason.
>>110028924Funimation.
>>110028750
>Rinne no Lagrange 2 finished never
>>110028954
Does anyone actually use Daisuki and do any subgroups use their scripts compared to Crunchyroll? I haven't been keeping up with them since they launched.
>>110027832
That's hilarious.
>making a wall of text
Who gives a shit. Just say the important shit and be done with it. No one cares about the history of UTW or its members.
>>110029032
Last time I tried to use it the video quality was so shit it made CR look good.
![ashita-no-joe_001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FLW6R8R.jpg "ashita-no-joe_001[1].jpg")
>2015
>Fansubbing is kill
>Only Crunchy and Funi are available
>Neither sub shows like Ryu ku bu or Kodomo jikan for "ethical reasons"
You could have stopped this
>>110029177
You could have stopped your shit taste.
>>110029082
I care.
But even if you didn't, they did hide the non-important stuff in spoiler tags.
>>110029212
No, they didn't.
>>110029233
They did.
>>110029177
>Donation Drive (6/30/13): $3778.13 raised.
>>110029082
B-but muh attention.
Nearly every fansubber/scanlator/whatever is like this, nothing new under the sun. Just don't give them any attention like any rational person (unlike this attention whoring tripfag) would do.
>UTW won't sub Fate/Stay Night next season, their namesake
People gave these guys $4000
>>110029177
Those shows are shit, mate.
>>110029177
Maybe you should learn moon already.
>>110029212
>spoiler tags
Only work if you have javascript enabled.
>>110029264
>group spends four years subbing anime for free
>people expect them to remain their fansubbing slaves for life
>>110028722
It's usually a rights issue.
Still waiting on SYD 12 and Puchimasu!! Batch.
>>110028942
I don't even know how they're getting away with that statement.
>>110029032
I use Daisuki exclusively to stream old Gundam shows like Zeta Gundam and ZZ Gundam because there aren't any good fansub releases for them.
>>110029441
EG is going back and doing all the gundam series I believe.
>>110029271
You're shit, mate.
>>110029374
It's a Netflix Original anime release. It's done entirely in-house by Netflix.
>>110029177
Then they remove the best parts from some episodes because they don't have the rights to some music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-qmYJJUA4
>>110029469
He put out the final patch for ZZ a few hours ago.
>>110029469
Yep, I've got the EG 0079 release. But I don't feel like waiting for or archiving Zeta. I've watched 8 episodes so far and I'm underwhelmed if not disappointed.
>That post
Oh please, honours year was worse than the first four semesters of med school and I still found time to watch anime and time releases for an active subgroup back then.
Raze is just a baby.
>>110029521
Oh, well that changes things.
>>110027433
Dropped Shit art
Kept 2wei
This is good anon.Rejoice!
>>110029555
Pretty sure Raze translates and doesn't do babby fagsubbing like timing.
>>110029626
They won't do 2wei, though.
>>110029262
If you don't like it, feel free to filter me unless you don't know how to.
Shitposting isn't against the rules but people do it anyways, likewise donning a tripcode isn't against the rules so...
>>110029657
I lied. Global Rule 3. Well at least having a tripcode isn't a bannable offense... yet.
>>110029651
Except that the post itself says they'll be doing it.
>tfw my favorite fansub died
>>110029717
Just like they're doing Nisemonogatari's BDs
![[Coalgirls]_Nisemonogatari_09_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[AB6BE020].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2013.10.12_01.46.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/854CayA.jpg "[Coalgirls]_Nisemonogatari_09_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[AB6BE020].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2013.10.12_01.46.00].jpg")
>they dropped Nise
Holy shit, fuck you Raze.
>>110029555
>There are people on /a/ who have gone to med school
>There are people on /a/ who are doctors and surgeons
There were only two groups who I watched every show that they subbed.
BSS and UTW. It's a shame to see them basically go Eclipse Mode.
Fansub group dies and new groups who knows jackshit about moon and english appears. Thank Daiz
What will be the next popular, high-quality group?
Now I'm scared. They commented that they'll be finishing the SSY BD's, now the comment is deleted.
From instant I saw that post announcing they wouldn't be doing any shows in the spring I knew they were finished. A subgroup that doesn't sub is done. It's just _ar limping along trying to finish projects, the group's momentum is kaput.
>medical school
>spending hours and hours memorizing trivial trivia for meaningless exams that have no relation to actual medical work
>after medical school, a disproportionate number of residents develop depression and mental illness as they work long hours at the beck and call of the attending physicians
>if they're lucky, they get to spend their adult life--or rather, what's left of it--making a lot of money, but having to work so much that there's no time to enjoy it anyway
Typically I have nothing but contempt for (pre)medical students, but in this case I just feel sorry for him and hope he exits that toxic profession as soon as possible.
RIP
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UTW and Amagami, I will never forget you.
>>110029834
Time to add Assassination of UTW to the list.
>>110029847
There won't be. Vivid is the only one I'd rate at the level but they aren't nearly active/notable enough.
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>>110029859
>>110029520
Do they cut scenes regularly, or was it just for that one scene in Girls und Panzer?
It isn't the same with Eclipse dying now with UTW possibly bowing out because the overlap between UTW and Eclipse is now not present. On the translation front, translation quality has declined slightly and has been constant since Eclipse translation days.
Is there a clear group who is clearly on UTW quality and has consistency to match? Because I really debate Raze's assertion that there is talent still in the fansubbing scene when there are so many fragmented groups that while could be on the level that UTW is, don't have the same amount of capacity or momentum they have. I don't know if fansubbing might die out soon because legitimate services are now starting to reach ubiquity in terms of speed and convenience, but slightly less in quality, to stream and broadcast shows. Japan is catching on so I have no clue when they will be able to do the same with manga but it might happen soon.
>>110029847
Underwater, Vivid, and not FFF.
>>110029847
[anon]
>>110029798
>BSS
>Eclipse
Don't remind me, anon ;_;
>>110029847
Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
>>110029941
Vivid yes, but Underwater seems to be hit and miss.
>>110029917
Maybe my caching just hates the comment.
>>110028079
Daiz was the last major fansubber left standing. Without UnderTheWater, who will translate your favorite animes?
>>110030009
>Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
Please no
Time to start learning moon.
>>110029938
There will always be shows that don't get simulcast or picked up by the licensing companies or legal streams. There will always be a place for TV rips and fansubbers to sub them.
It's just going to be a greatly diminished place, a niche within a niche.
The era when anime fans depended on fansubbers to watch anime is over. Japan and the licensing companies can bring a multitude of subbed shows to fans legally, and site-rippers like HS can provide that content for free.
So that only leaves the small minority of shows that don't get legally subbed or aren't available uncensored as projects for fansubbers.
Essentially: fansubbing will become an obscure world far removed from mainstream anime, a domain of hipsters and nonconformists. This is the path ahead of us.
>>110029713
Why would properly using a built-in feature be bannable?
It's in bad taste because this website is based on anonymity, with a feature to preserve identity when it is required for certain discussion. But that's all.
>>110030048
>animes
>liking Daiz
>>110030048
What ever happened to Vale?
>>110030126
Doesn't he work at Sunrise now?
>>110030101
But will you actually start this time?
>>110030126
Daiz killed him.I don't know.
>>110030152
This time I even opened the DJT guide and read it. No clue what to do next though.
>>110030126
Last I saw him he was logged into League of Legends but that was maybe 3 weeks ago? I haven't logged in in awhile so I don't know if he's still doing that. He's been working behind the scenes for some other groups though I believe why gg is incapacitated last I checked.
>>110030009
>Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
Fucking hell, I just realized that UTW won't be here to sub Fate/Stay Night next season.
That just hit me like a ton of bricks.
>>110030152
If I didn't start for Rance, I doubt I'll start for this.
>>110029933
Funimation cut out a chunk of Dragonar because it was too lewd
>>110030139
Oh shit, when was that? I forget the last show he subbed.
>>110030176
50 TIMES IN THE MOTHERFUCKING NOTEBOOK.YOU BITCH.
>>110030111
Seeing as this is the case, could we start saying the golden era was the early to mid 2000's for fansubbing and quality? Because I don't think we'll reach that level of quality ever again.
>>110030111
Is it wrong that I think that doesn't sound like such a bad thing?
>>110030015
If Vivid subbed more they'd be the perfect group.
>>110030198
He translated Patema inverted for Underwater just recently.
>>110030193
M-maybe they'll come back just for that, r-right?
>>110030101
>tfw scared of learning moon because you can finally understand how bad the voice acting is in some shows or cringe at some lyrics
>>110030193
>Fucking hell, I just realized that UTW won't be here to sub Fate/Stay Night next season.
>First, about the F/SN remake airing next season. Believe me, I am extremely excited about it too and very much look forward to it. However, whether I will personally work on it or not is still up in the air. The quality and punctuality of the legal alternatives will be the deciding factor: if the simulcaster provides legitimate 720p video or above and/or the script quality isn’t completely unacceptable, I will almost certainly forego the opportunity of working on it, because, well, I think you’d agree that waking up at 3am in the morning and spending 5-6 hours to make a bunch of insignificant changes in an already decent script for a show that 90% of people have already watched because they couldn’t wait isn’t exactly a good use of my time and sanity… right?
There's still hope
>>110030111
Why I don't think this is a bad thing?
Sure there's always a chance for capitalist bastard hogging the license and western law censor the anime.
But the potential
>>110029938
>Because I really debate Raze's assertion that there is talent still in the fansubbing scene
Disregarding fansubbing. Raze is right when it comes to his assertions of CR's translators.
The better half of CR does rival the better half of fansubbing.
It's mostly just that the rest of CR has a tough time to compete. And as subtitles can never be delayed with CR's business model, a translator calling in sick due to whatever can cause them problems if they can't get another competent translator to fill in for him.
But otherwise CR really is good. A lot of their translations are great, even if some are indeed sorely lacking.
A common mistake /a/ does is to simply judge everything a group does from nothing but their brand. Disregarding how the work itself varies from show to show and release to release.
Judging fansubbing in this manner was already unsuitable enough as it is. And judging CR this way is probably even less good of an idea, considering how CR has more translators than any fansub group, and thus the releases does vary.
>>110030226
Hahaha no
>>110027433
>As for the second title, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Ilya 2wei!, __ar has plans to push ahead with it and has already assembled a team for it; I will be assisting as a consultant but will not be directly working on the release itself.
it's cool
>>110030233
Only time will tell, but personally I distrust this new era of fansubbing. It's too centralized. The way things are going, soon every show will have only one source for subtitles.
The real danger is losing capable translators who can translate from scratch. If those people completely quit the scene, then fansubbing will be fucked beyond repair if anything happens to the centralized subbing system that's coming into place.
>>110030297
Nah, he won't do that
>>110030293
The VAs are trained since elementary school, you will get quality voice acting most of the time. Now the music is questionable.
>>110030293
That's actually a good reason to continue for me.
>>110030293
I already cringe at some of the voice acting.
>>110030293
It is worth it.
>>110030293
>because you can finally understand how bad the voice acting is in some shows
Not really an issue, bad voice acting is bad voice acting and should be clear regardless of how much you know the language. Maybe how awkward some lines really are, but that's the writing's fault and not really the actor's.
>cringe at some lyrics
You've got me there.
>>110030293
I've never gotten why people think this.
Perception of tone and intonation is completely irrelevant to the language.
Don't tell me you've never been able to tell when a VA was doing a half-assed job or, or really putting his heart into it.
Pronunciation, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
>start learning moon.
You realize that when you have a basic understanding of Nippongo, horrible subs are fine. you only look at the subtitles when you run into unfamiliar vocabulary. Unless you care about video quality, which I don't because I have a small computer screen. Then again, it shouldn't much matter unless you're watching on your fucking TV.
>>110030293
>cringe at lyrics
You can just read the translated karaoke OP and see how bad it actually is.
>>110030355
The only thing that I can imagine being bad from it is if they start restricting which shows they decide to license and sub. If something is too graphic or too lewd or too immoral, they may not sub that and then that's were fansub groups come in, right?
>>110027433
Every fansubbing person is a holy man, just respect for what they've done.
The fact that they dropped salad art 2 makes them even better
So just curious, but why haven't we boycotted HS/CR yet?
The only reason I ever pick them is because they are the fastest. I never find myself amazed by their subtitles and definitely not their video quality. Meanwhile other subgroups release good quality encodes and subs that are done from a viewer's perspective instead of a businessman's perspective.
Oh look, /a/ is over reacting. what a shocker.
>>110030411
I can only tell if the voice acting is bad if I recognize some the words. A bad "sugoi onii chan" is a bad sugoi onii chan, a bad Hong Kong ching ching just sounds like gibberish. When I was first watching anime I tuned out the voice acting completely to read the subs, and sometimes I still tune out the vocal track.
>>110030471
...because it's only one of two legal options for localized anime that is released around the same time as Japan?
>>110030116
Fuck Daiz.Up his tight little ass.
You faggots are spoiled.
When you try to find subs for variety shows it's all fucking google translate.
Learning moon is the easier option than trying to understand that.
>>110030458
But CR isn't a monopoly, right? I would trust other commercial groups to pick up the slack if they refuse to do it but I really wonder if they are comparable.
>>110030471
>boycotted HS
Do you want them to go bankrupt by not downloading their animes?
>>110030320
I am against putting all my eggs in one basket. One of the best advantages to fansubbing before CR was how decentralized it was. If one group had delays or couldn't finish a series, there would be another group working on same anime. The redundancy of subs for shows is a great boon to fans because it gives us options and gives us backups in case one group fails.
But if CR becomes the only source of subs, that's risky because you're essentially betting that CR will never fail to deliver. It's an all or nothing bet that quite frankly I see no point in making. So that's why even though I'm not opposed to CR I'm very much opposed to the growing mentality fansubbers have that "if CR's doing it there's no point"
This mindset will only lead to disaster. CR will not be around forever, anime is doing good business for now but that won't always be the case.
>>110030567
the important thing to remember is that markets do not immediately and instantly equilibriate
so, eventually, perhaps, but who knows when it'll happen
>>110030471
>because they are the fastest
Answered your own question.
Personally, I don't mind waiting one or two days for a fansub release (or an AT-X release for thóse shows) but I don't really want to repeat what happened last season )I was one of the twelve people who watched WhyNot's Ping Pong, even though it was the exact same as CR script-wise)
Also
>>110030471
>Meanwhile other subgroups release good quality encodes
Not always. Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.
>>110030471
Wow, whatever will CR do without you pirating their anime? Meanwhile the 200k or whatever subscribers over at CR are paying for the localization.
>>110030655
> * (
I need sleep, goodnight.
>>110030627
I just don't want other subgroups to get the impression that we're ok with them.
>I had the extra time to catch up on Game of Thrones, find a new girlfriend, and go wakeboarding.
>>110030690
>implying everyone won't watch the fastest English option available. Why wait 6+ hours to start discussing an anime?
>>110030690
But we are ok with them.
>>110030646
And then we will probably have couple years of only one or two shows get translated per season.
>>110030716
You're okay with wordy subs, artifacts, and banding?
>>110030746
I guess. I never get artifacts in CR rips.
>>110030746
>>110030690
If fansubbers were to stop due to a lack of appreciation, they'd have stopped a long time ago.
>>110030646
Isn't fansubs in 200x is like this anyway?
With fansubs like Eclipse, SS, or Your-mom just the only one subbing the anime.
But yeah, I know your worries.
Most release won't even be typesetted in 3 years at most. My worst nightmares are coming true.
>>110030665
>Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.
It really depends on the show, and TV rips have the advantage of being encoded in 10bit h264.
>>110030743
That's a worst case scenario. The scene will recover because the need will drive more people to pick up fansubbing again, but it'll be like the fall of Rome. We'll have to rebuild.
>>110030780
They're there, just don't look for them. Once you notice them, there's no way back.
It's sad to see them go but it can't be helped.
>>110030665
>Not always. Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.
Not always. Shows like Akame ga Kill are fucked six ways to Sunday on CR with all the banding crawling across every scene.
Generally, sub groups don't use Tokyo MX because they want to, but because it's the least bad option.
>>110030746
madvr debanding works pretty well.
And the subs are 90% good enough, that's even the point of the entire blog post.
>if the simulcaster provides legitimate 720p video or above and/or the script quality isn’t completely unacceptable, I will almost certainly forego the opportunity of working on it, because, well, I think you’d agree that waking up at 3am in the morning and spending 5-6 hours to make a bunch of insignificant changes in an already decent script for a show that 90% of people have already watched because they couldn’t wait isn’t exactly a good use of my time and sanity… right?
>>110030706
Quality over speed.
>>110030944
Why need it to discuss anime.
Also, if you want to store the anime you can always download the BDs
>>110030944
I was under the impression that most people who pirate their anime watch speed and archive quality though and 1% of those watch both speed and quality to compare.
>>110030820
>TV rips have the advantage of being encoded in 10bit h264
You can encode CR rips in 10 bit you know.
>>110031015
Most people do favor speed, if you look at the download numbers on nyaa for releases every week the first release generally has the most.
But there's a segment of the pirates who will hold out for quality even for weekly releases. I'm one of those. I only use HS if subs are substantially delayed or if there really are no other subs.
An exception is during the first few weeks of the new season, where I download every single release for a show to compare subs, including CR/HS (usually because they're way faster in week 1.
>>110031089
>reencoding
>ever
>>110030706
There will still be discussion 6 hours later.
There will still be discussion the next day.
There will still be discussion when a higher quality release is uploaded.
Some people just aren't in any rush to watch stuff or they just want something that looks better.
>>110030471
>So just curious, but why haven't we boycotted HS/CR yet?
Holy shit you're stupid.
>>110031133
>Some people just aren't
They want the bigger audience for the epeen
>>110031015
I'll prefer to wait until a reliable release is out and HorribleSubs is a last resort.
>>110031133
Some shows don't get a lot of discussion and only have active threads right after the CR broadcast.
![[FFF] DATE A LIVE II - 05 [9F02A349].mkv_snapshot_05.29_[2014.05.14_02.31.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eqc3ooA.jpg "[FFF] DATE A LIVE II - 05 [9F02A349].mkv_snapshot_05.29_[2014.05.14_02.31.19].jpg")
>>110031130
How do you think TV rips work? Like other anons have said, Tokyo MX is way worse than CR rips.
>>110028663
Or he could just download the subbed release and turn the subs off.
>>110031130
Groups have been using CR as a base for their encodes for a while now.
![[HorribleSubs] Date A Live S2 - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2014.05.14_03.03.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C6ls6ev.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Date A Live S2 - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2014.05.14_03.03.49].jpg")
>>110031234
>I went through a couple girlfriends
>This is the group you gave $4000 to
>>110031254
Are you retarded?
>>110031133
I would say many shows only get discussion on the day they release.
![[FFF] Love Live! S2 - 01 [954C4CE1].mkv_snapshot_22.01_[2014.04.06_22.20.png](https://i.imgur.com/159tUCj.jpg "[FFF] Love Live! S2 - 01 [954C4CE1].mkv_snapshot_22.01_[2014.04.06_22.20.png")
>>110031234
>>110031280
>jpg
>>110030471
Because CR/HS is like fast food, most people are too lazy to wait until they get home, and eat a wholesome meal.
So they knowingly eat shit just because it's fast and convenient.
Then there are the retards who think that the shit they eat is the best thing ever, with no other alternative.
>>110031305
>implying that jpg would harm the ability to see the difference.
Actually, the HS one was from Funi which has even worse video than CR. And I didn't fix the contrast in the HS image. Still way better than the fansub video. If it weren't for Funi hardsubs, they would have gone for a web rip instead of shitty Tokyo MX.
The old fansubs claimed that they were accurate and original. Ours are ripped from localized and Americanized sumulcasts. In our subs there will be no emotions except stiff awkwardness, inappropriate swearing, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy. Everything.
We shall abolish the community. Our localizers and typesetters are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the rippers. There will be no love, except the love of our e-peen. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a hopelessly slow rival. There will be no honorifics, no karaoke, no decent typesetting.
There will be no actual work, no enjoyment of the process of translating. All competing releases will be the same. But always — do not forget this, /a/nonymous — always there will be the intoxication of undeserved praise, constantly increasing and constantly being given. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of reading plebian comments, the satisfaction of knowing people are downloading OUR torrents. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Crunchyroll script on every anime torrent — forever.
>>110031235
Meaning you still rely on fansubbers, so what's the diff?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXwJcc1u-I
Where are my god damn SYD subs UTW?
>>110031519
You what? He'd just be grabbing better encodes without using the subs.
>>110029938
>Japan is catching on so I have no clue when they will be able to do the same with manga but it might happen soon.
Never going too happen, there's too much manga being published at a single point.
And so it goes.
>>110031571
And who are the ones doing the better encodes? It's part of the package of fansubbing.
>>110030919
CR was objectively better than MX for Love Live
>>110031587
If manga get's centralized, it would potentially open up a completely new market and create thousands of jobs BECAUSE there are so many manga. Many Japanese and English speakers would have a viable and sustainable occupation. Not to mention jobs for those who are willing to typeset and clean/redraw unless Japan provides the manga without text.
![[yoro] Love Live! S2 - 13 [464F9514][2014.07.01_02.12.47][00:11:56.173].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q9XeIVB.jpg "[yoro] Love Live! S2 - 13 [464F9514][2014.07.01_02.12.47][00:11:56.173].jpg")
>>110031305
QUALITY
COMIN' RIGHT AT YA
>>110031699
That's just grabbing a better option if it's there. If fansubs just up and died he'd still be ok, because there's still be raw rips.
>>110031765
Are you being dense on purpose? Did you read the trail of conversation that you've been replying to?
whatever, as long as the are groups releasing BD rips with passable typesettingnise bds when?
>>110031133
Tell that to the SYD threads fucker.
>>110031386
>plebian
It's spelled "plebeian". God, I absolutely hate you.
>>110031851
>Status: Dropped due to Raze being ded with University
>>110031829
Are you, because you seem to not understand what you're talking about.
>>110027433
http://cthuko.nyaa.eu/2014/07/08/summer-plans-and-status-update/
Even Cthuko is dead.
>>110031234
Not always.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/78220
The back of his head isn't meant to look like a lens flare, if you were wondering.
>>110031740
>manga
>ever being centralized
Haha no. There's 3 big manga publishing companies (Shueisha, Kodansha, and Shogakukan) constantly trying to outdo each other as well as a bunch of other smaller companies publishing other more niche series and adaptations. They also don't pay much to their most important employees (mangaka and assistants) so them pitching up to try something like CR for manga (notice how CR's manga selection is very small) wouldn't really work. It also doesn't help that said 3 big companies have their own English publishing companies that they go to or own normally. If the scanlation scene with its immense size can't handle even most of the currently published manga there's no way that companies that are trying to make money could without taking big risks.
>>110031948
The end times are here.
>>110031948
Literally who.
>>110031948
Cthuko was never alive.
![[Cthuko] Yozakura Quartet Hana no Uta - 02 [720p H264 AAC][6F4B0063].mkv_snapshot_05.20_[2014.06.21_19.08.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BIVKgni.jpg "[Cthuko] Yozakura Quartet Hana no Uta - 02 [720p H264 AAC][6F4B0063].mkv_snapshot_05.20_[2014.06.21_19.08.03].jpg")
>>110032018
The only group that subbed the best show last fall.
>>110032075
I love Yozakura Quartet so much.
>>110031851
there is that group doing the commentaries for nise, maybe they will do something decent whenever they get to the point of overtaking what utw has released.
I actually blame HorribleSubs, not Crunchyroll.
People watching Crunchyroll won't download their anime anyways, but people watching HorribleSubs would have downloaded proper releases, had HorribleSubs not been faster.
Then, fansubbers seeing an inferior, but due to direct access slightly acceptable and much faster released product being downloaded in favour of their stuff makes them feel unneeded, when, in fact, they're still needed if you want high quality.
>>110030224
Fuck I'm still in lesson 7
>>110027433
I hope that subbing in general dies.
Motivate me to learn japanese.
>>110032186
HorribleSubs want to destroy anime. They provide these free ripps to get ridd of competetion, and then when they've gotten ridd of them they'll bail. We'll be left with nothing.
>>110032265
Then someone else will ripp them its not some voodoo magic that only they know how to do.
>>110032265
I'm pretty sure anybody with a script and a seedbox can do what horriblesubs does if they go.
>>110032075
Looking at their releases it seems they have only ever done 3 bad shows.
No wonder I had never heard of them.
>>110032319
>>110032307
But, fansubbing would be dead.
>>110032265
learn jap before that happens
>>110032346
If fansubbing dies [anon] will rise and it will live once again.
How about returning those donations?
>>110032346
It's dying anyways, even if HS didn't exist, someone else would fill the void. Everyone knew this was going to happen when CR first came out.
>>110031707
Yes, absolutely. But generally any show Sentai licenses will be unfixably fucked on CR. See Akame, Isshuukan, NGNL, and Black Bullet (not sure if the last one is Sentai but it's terrible on CR either way).
>>110032438
>returning donations
You're new to this aren't you goy?
>eclipse
>utw
>gg
>>110032336
>3
They only did 2 bad shows.
>>110032498
GG was the best of them. Because if it was a serious they actually liked they had good subs, and if it was generic shit they made troll subs and made all the shit eaters on /a/ mad.
Since we're on the subject of subs...
Where does Netflix get their subs?
>Puts on helmet
>>110032530
They make their own, unless they steal them or ask for permission from someone else.
>>110032530
>>Puts on helmet
You're fucking retarded. Never *action* ever again.
>>110028084
CR rips have horrible quality, no typesetting whatsoever and not the best translation around (though it got a lot better and is the least of my concerns).
Its always sad to see good groups go. I hope we'll not lose EveTaku and other quality groups go the same way.
>>110032498
They all sucked donkey cocks.
Serious question so if you have an answer, please, I'd like to hear it:
Why didn't fansubbers ever switch to just releasing subtitle scripts (.srt/.ass/.sub)? That way they could be used with whatever video file a person already had and they could be worked on in leisure. I mean, I go after the first release I can get my hands on like most people but I also keep & collect my anime so I would definitely be for snagging a quality script when it became available to be used as the default sub.
>>110032498
>>110032557
Okay. Cause last year I watched most of Brotherhood on Netflix and found it to be pretty aight. I recently watched Death Note and didn't really find any issues with the subs. Only a few times did the typesetting bother me, which is rather impressive.
I appreciate that Netflix is trying to breathe some competition into the market. Good on them.
>>110032628
Because the timing would be off.
>>110032526
I liked their jojo subs
>>110032601
Nah, they started doing some minor typesetting of signs with colors and outlines. I saw it in NGNL at least.
>>110032628
Because people are too lazy to load a sub file. And there's no guarantee also rips would synch up correctly.
>>110032628
>That way they could be used with whatever video file a person already had and they could be worked on in leisure.
Because timing and picture size
>>110032650
Why would the timing be different if raws all are the same episode and have the same tokyo grand christmas part.
>>110032650
>>110032667
>needing frame accurate subtitles for anime where mouth movements don't match up anyway
Anime timers are autistic in making sure their lines change exactly when the frame changes, but most people wouldn't notice.
>>110032628
Just rip the sub track yourself if you think it is that good.
But things like timing and encode quality differs from group to group and it would just be a bit of a mess.
>>110032601
Why does typesetting matter, it usually seems like an excuse to have obnoxious pink or special colored subs.
>>110032703
>most people wouldn't notice.
Maybe I'm autistic but I get really annoyed when subtitles aren't in sync. That goes for anything, not just anime.
>>110032703
It could be something as simple as a rip having a second or two of extra nothingness at the beginning, which would throw off the subs by 1-2 seconds. Which is very noticeable.
>>110032740
But mistiming like that takes one or two button presses to fix in MPC.
>>110032762
And people are dumb and lazy.
>>110032762
>needing to memorize keyboard shortcuts to watch your anime
And you make fun of us linuxfags.
>>110032762
What if the mistiming happens somewhere in the middle of the video?
>>110032790
Then that sucks, but he was talking about stuff at the beginning.
