>no good MMOs out now
>none coming in the foreseeable future
Life for NEETs is pretty rough these days.
What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
>>345348949
Legion looks pretty good mate.
>>345348949
All the good ones are dead.
there's an SMT imagine private server being worked on
>>345351420
>Legion looks pretty good mate.
>>345348949
>What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
depends on what you are looking for. I'm currently NEETing on ESO and had tons of fun with it.
>>345348949
Started playing Wildstar today. The Mechari are pretty cool, but I can't seem to really get into the game. Something about it just seems to be lacking. World is pretty empty of players and it takes 2 hours to get into a dungeon. Quests are pretty meh. I like the path system though, thought that was pretty cool.
>>345352563
>no City of Heroes
get your shit together;_;
is LOTRO any good
be honest with me
>>345353558
Turbine's been making it more and more like WoW over time, but I'm told it still has great RP community and well, you can play in Middle-earth. Problem is Turbine recently transitioned into a mobile studio and players are shitting bricks thinking whether they'll even renew the LotR license in 2017.
>>345353558
it was at launch
it sucks now because they turned it into a WoW clone
>>345351420
it's always been interesting to watch and compare how everquest 2 couldn't keep up with the times like wow did. it did not age well because of the art style.
>>345352563
>Lineage 2
I feel bad that I didn't get to really enjoy this game. There was a lot of shit going on in L2 but as a retarded 12 year old there was only so much I could really wrap my mind around.
I made all of my money by running monster trains on bots and stealing their gear before a patch stopped items in your inventory from dropping on death.
I started playing FFXI again a couple months back.
>>345352563
Is Aion still alive?
>>345348949
I had a decent playthrough of new vegas for around 30 hours /without dlcs. Try something with more story and decent gameplay. currently playing gw2 but life is hard if you a f2p. Your can only play the warrior if you want to do some high level fractals or raids and thats it, all other classes need the addon and fuck anet I wont give them a single dime
>>345352563
>Wildstar didn't even make the cut
>>345351420
If professions.
>>345354049
Nice, but the WoW screenshot seems on lowest.
>>345348949
F F X I V
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>>345352563
EVE would be fun if there was more to do than grind and sit on beacons/gates waiting for fun.
>>345356328
that's just wow being wow. everquest 2 was age of conan of its own time visually.
>>345353317
Gameplay depth.
>>345353317
The people working on Wildstar were shockingly amateur. Bad decision after bad decision.
>>345352563
>he didn't like maplestory
kys
>>345356732
I heard that most of Wildstars problems weren't from the game design developers but the poor management lead of the dev team. The team was poorly led which led to rushed decisions and last minute changes which ultimately impacted the game.
>>345352563
Swtor nowadays is good. Lot of content, good story and the leveling is 100% story mode and don't require a single fetch quest. PVP is fun, starship pvp is madness and the PVE is also ok with a lot of raids and hard content.
>>345356941
I've heard the same. But you can see stuff in-game too. They completely replaced the tutorials that take place on the Arkship in exchange for a super bland VR thing. And then once you hit the planet, these characters reference stuff that happened on the Arkship that you never saw.
>>345348949
I've been trying to find a solid one and it's been cutting my life to pieces.
>ArcheAge
Started out promising, very comfy boat rides. Then you find the PvE stays shit forever, the PvP is kind of a fucking mess with an even worse flag system, and to make any sort of progress you need one of the extremely limited spots of land that can be taken by bots on the other side of the world. Trion decided to respond to the many problems by delaying promised content and fucking it further in the ass with the cash shop. Didn't last more than a month.
>FFXIV
All the same problems I had with retail WoW: it's pretty much a singleplayer game with a dungeon matchmaker. There is very little that drives players together until maybe at the absolute endgame when you want to do hard mode versions of raids. It has many cool comfort features, well designed boss fights and dungeons but ultimately it felt like just another linear singleplayer RPG, especially with the fucking mandatory main story quest.
>Nostalrius
Actually sunk four months into it and then RIP
>Tree of Savior
Just fuck my shit up and don't stop. Tries to sell itself as a RO successor, but it is anything but. Literally 240 levels of solo theme park questing (at which point you only form grind parties because the areas at this point are simply unfinished zones filled with placeholder enemies), the shittiest loot system ever conceived by an allegedly thinking team of humans, and countless performance problems. Since release nothing has been added but restrictions on real players in a misguided attempt to stop gold farming bots, except these restrictions are more like horrible inconveniences that bots don't care about because, you know, THEY'RE BOTS.
Guess I'll try TERA now?
>>345357273
it's still a WoW clone with a retarded story
>>345348949
FFXIV:HW dude.
>>345357291
There was this NPC after the new tutorial that said "Heard what you did on the Destiny. Pretty impressive,.."
I'm just like "What?" I never did anything. Total disconnect.
>>345357310
TERA mostly suffers from awful balance in both PvE and PvP. There's little reason to ever leave the main cities when you hit max level because the world doesn't have anything worth while in it, so you will wind up using the match making for dungeons a lot.
But the combat is still neat and it's not P2W so you might have some fun
>>345348949
I've been playing FFXIV, it's pretty good if you aren't a jaded MMO person. I don't even like the Final Fantasy series but I was able to get into it.
>>345357310
>Literally 240 levels of solo theme park questing
I don't understand why MMOs still do this. It's such an established and almost stale genre at this point, you really don't need to handhold people through so much of the game.
>>345357552
On the paper it may be a wow clone but when you play it doesn't feel like wow.
I love watching the lightsabers clashing and deflecting blasters. WoW is so static in comparison, there's no reaction for your actions.
Don't bother with XIV, it's shit. The players there now spend more time looking for threads like these to shill the game than actually play the game.
What I want is a game where you can still explore.
Sure make it a theme park, but for god's sake make it have no LFG tool. Make it so people have to TALK to each other. Make huge, empty but atmospheric zones you can waste ages traversing, make players lose themselves figuratively and literally into the game.
Something where wikis and external sites don't exist, and you have to go by hearsay and word of mouth.
Something where you can do other shit than fighting and be the hero all the time.
Anything like that?
>>345357552
Gameplay.
>>345358343
sounds like WoW players
What do you guys think of Champions Online and DC Universe Online?
>>345358381
What you described is impossible in a modern MMO due to how differrent the audience is today compared to 10 years ago.
You will never get a word of mouth exploration MMO because datamining and day one wikis will always exist.
>>345358642
pale imitations
What is Maplestory like these days anyway? Last time I played was 2008.
>>345358332
>tfw not having to manually block lasers and guide movements
>MMO combat
>>345358381
Impossible. The internet made MMOs possible, but also killed them
>>345358642
idk about CO, but DCUO had that crazy not quite fighting game-esque combo system that incidently also had animation cancelling that I believe they ended up intentionally incorporating into gameplay.
F2P was kinda cool since the biggest and main restriction was credits, but there were crafting mats that basically acted as a secondary currency in that case.
World PVP was also kinda cool, different players having different movement styles meant that each had a method of escape that differed from the other. Acrobats could zipline, Speedsters could run away, and flying players could attempt to fly away from fights. 2 man dungeons were also pretty cool,
>>345358870
I'd kill for Outcast combat in an MMORPG, but that ain't happening.
>>345358381
DayShit.
>>345358381
It would be a week before somebody had a detailed map of the entire game on a wiki.
The internet won't allow games like that to exist unless you go No Man's Sky levels of huge and then it's just the same shit repeated a billion times with different colors
>>345358381
Just play FFXIV and never use duty finder, party finder everything or recruit friends you made on your journey. RP servers are excellent for this.
There's a well known guy on my server who is a traveling merchant that is a master crafter in all crafting trades. He can overmeld your high-end gear, craft gear for you to use to help you on your journey, give you advice on which markets are good for what specific items right now, and is more like a interactive NPC than another run of the mill "le epic raid slayer" player that WoW and other MMOs try to make every other player be.
>>345358385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kkTk4myOAk
Some Jedi Guardian PVP. 1st vid I found on youtube.
>>345348949
PoE
>>345359132
The dcuo devs had a ptr 1v1 dueling bg added and i got a chance to fight them, so that was the highlight of my dcuo experience.
>>345358716
>>345358914
>>345359140
>>345359225
Okay then forget the exploration and the hearsay, just give me something which has large zones, no LFG and a sandboxy nature.Please?
>>345359391
I tried FFXIV, it's far too fast paced and wow-like for my tastes.
>>345359225
>>345358914
>>345358716
Poor guy >>345358381 got BTFO
>>345359614
>it's far too fast paced
most people here say it's too SLOW
>>345359562
Problem with TOR is its engine is utter shit.
>have a planet made for open pvp
>never gets realized because engine starts shitting itself when you have more than 20 players fighting
>>345358381
LFG tool is (almost) unavoidable unless content doesn't require structured groups with limitations, if its like "you can solo or duo all content or have more people" then maybe.
But even when gw2 didnt have a looking for group system, there were websites that substituted it.
>>345359614
I'm sorry anon, that's all I want in an MMO too, but nothing like that exists
>>345359132
>DCUO had that crazy not quite fighting game-esque combo system that incidently also had animation cancelling that I believe they ended up intentionally incorporating into gameplay
Last played, DCUO had MOBA-level ability counts.
There will never be a good MMO again. MMO combat sucks, MMO questing sucks, all MMOs are the same copy and paste shit, there is no variety only endless variations of WoW and everything that was fun once.
MMOs lack creativity and I fear I will never play an MMO again.
>>345356650
>age of conan
Game that sadly got shat on because of rightly shitty launch. What is it with Funcom and MMO launches?
>>345359672
>>345359956
Not on a social interaction level it wasn't.
People here complain about le 2.5gcd meme when saying FFXIV is slow.
It was wow-like in questing, in the way classes work, in how dungeons work, in how groups work, in how zones work... I only got to 15 or so, but all I saw just looked like modern wow to me.
>>345359745
I just have these strange, mixed memories of looking for group during TBC while levelling and it triggers my nostalgia so much.
>>345359808
RIP us.
>>345359614
>FFXIV
>it's far too fast paced
I'm a FFXIV player and that's the first time In my life I've seen somebody saying that.
Also...what does it have that makes it so "wow-like" for you? Not even the gameplay is similar.
>>345359706
That's true. I had much hope in the open world pvp till I reached lvl 50 and experienced how the engine couldn't bear 40 ppl on the same spot fighting.
>>345359987
MMOs lack creativity because there's a huge risk and investment behind developing them.
Many unique MMOs came out before WoW and even after WoW but plenty have gone bankrupt and failed because "it's not WoW" or it deviated too much for the typical MMO formula.
>>345359745
That's wholly conjecture.
>>345348949
MMOs are a dying genre. If people want to play a game with friends online, they just play stuff like LoL or Overwatch now. And those who do still want MMOs just stick to the current big ones now: WoW, FFXIV, TERA, etc. There's no room for new MMOs to succeed now so there's barely any to play or look forward to anymore.
It makes me really sad too, I'm in the same boat as you. Bored NEET that wants a comfy MMO to settle into. But I don't like any of the current ones out right now.
>>345360117
level 15 is hardly an indicator of how the game works, especially if you played on the trial.
class system works nothing like wow, dungeons aren't as faceroll as wow, zones aren't ignored like wow, the only thing similar you can compare to it and WoW are the hotbar combat system but that changes drastically once oGCDs start dumping on you.
>tfw no good PvP-focused MMO on the market
Feels bad man. Most comfy MMO experiences are getting a warband together and just beating face in on the field or in a battleground.
>>345360117
>It was wow-like in questing,
Every MMO has quests. Even non MMO games have quests. That's not being "wow-like"
>in the way classes work
No. There's not a single job in FFXIV that's played remotely like any of WoW's classes. On the paper it's true, "tanks gonna tank, heals gonna heal, dd gonna deal damage" but at the moment of doing it both games are so diferent they can't even be compared.
>in how dungeons work
Lot of MMO's have dungeons. WoW wasn't the first one.
>in how groups work
Every MMO has party/group content. Destiny has also groups. That's not a WoW feature.
>in how zones work...
Every Open world game has zones. Having zones is not a wow feature.
>I only got to 15 or so...
So you don't know fucking nothing. You had 3 skills and spammed one of them at every mob.
>but all I saw just ooked like modern wow to me.
Because both are mmo's and share basic features and that's it.
You are just crying because both share MMO features. That's stupid. Of course they share MMO features...they are both MMOs.
Now see pic related and tell me both games are similar
>>345360840
>Warhammer Online ded
God I miss it, fuck man
>>345358642
>What do you guys think of DC Universe Online?
Worst MMO experience of my fucking life.
>>345357273
The stories are pretty good, KOTFE is actually fun but the current state of the game is anything but good
>Animation bugs from release are still in the game
>No new raids in ages
>Many servers are completely dead AGAIN with no merge in the foreseeable future, this makes many game modes like Starfighter and world boss hunting impossible.
>PvP is still an unplayable joke just like in WoW.
>Crafting hasn't been updated properly for the new 65 level cap
>Barely any cross server functionality
I really want to like SWTOR but it's just so bad.
>>345354049
It got less coverage than wow.
>>345356228
I'm sure it an old image
>>345352704
wut? really? link, pls
>>345348949
Champions Online. It has a top tier building system (if you're Gold member) and the character creation allows me to play all my anthro characters.
FFXIV satisfies all my needs for a MMO
>New major patch content every 3 months
>Top 10 servers are more busy than other MMO besides WoW
>Novice Network chat channel has hundreds of people talking in it whether it's forming groups for dungeons, hunting monsters in the open world, or asking advice from other veteran players
>Can play every class on a single character eliminating the need for alts
>Crafting and Gathering have their own progression system and gameplay involved with high level crafts instead of hit 1 button = guaranteed success
>Can build your own house and have neighbors visit your house or you visit theirs
>Game client doesn't run like unoptimized shit (100+ FPS on a R9 290 with maxed out settings)
>Graphics look really nice in DX11 mode
>Loads of options to customize (UI size or hide features, kb+m or controller keybinds, text settings, spell effect intensity, etc)
The only real criticism I have with FFXIV is the lack of midcore content but that seems to be changing with Deep Dungeons coming in 2 days.
>>345361095
There's a private server going strong. Shit, even got DDoSed recently.
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/
>dat feel when I saw a server go from 150 cap to 1400 cap
>>345358642
Do you want to be a super hero or do you want to be a sidekick/henchmen?
>>345348949
MMOs died with City of Heroes
>Matrix Online emulator NEVER EVER
I just wanna hang out by the MaraC hardline again
>>345361785
>no /vg/ thread for it
That's a bad sign.
>>345348949
How the fuck is Skyforge?
>>345361039
You are incredibly butthurt when someone says they don't like your favorite flavor of shit and DARES to compare it to a different one.
Zones are small and packed, following a theme more than any real world logic. Like WoW's. Exactly the opposite of what I want went asking for in my original post.
Dungeons are get in, spank shit, get out. Through an LFG tool. Exactly the opposite of what I asked for, again.
Classes are the standard holy trinity shit, you are not in a sandbox able to be a merchant or a dancer or a basket weaver for a living and instead have to be a tank/healer/dps. Thus yes, classes are similar to wow no matter how much the rotation differs (bullshit pic btw, I raided during wod as a brewmaster and constantly used at least 20 different skills with 20 more on hand just to react to shit without a fixed rotation).
WoW and FFXIV are INCREDIBLY similar. They are made from the same cloth and follow the same design concepts. Only difference is the implementation. They are not both MMOs, they are both the same KIND of MMOs.
FFXIV is not the kind of game I'm looking for.
>>345361785
>Player Count: 32/1400
Uh
>>345361935
Not him but why? /vg/ threads are cancers and even when the game dies, some how the thread isn't because it becomes a place full of circlejerking and drama.
>>345361785
>ddosed for almost a week now
Why would somebody DDOS a private server
>>345361785
But there's only 32 people online :/
my gym is a great mmo
you guy need to embrace it
>>345361994
it's ok
>>345361935
Not really, WAR wasn't that big with your mainstream when WoW was still king and then it died.
>>345353258
>playing ESO
>>345362189
As I recall, WAR's biggest problem was that it had very little endgame content. Which was actually a big problem for most MMOs coming out trying to cash in on WoW's success.
>>345362075
>>345362126
You know, trick is to keep reading.
>>345362282
>Not playing ESO
>>345362318
there was also the idea that you had "flip zones" to actually access end game proper or you couldn't raid capital cities. not a bad thing on paper, but player base fluctuates and shit so you can't rely on everyone contributing in order to open end game access for a limited number of high-end players.
Eh I'm enjoying Black Desert Online for now, 30 bucks isn't too bad for the amount of content and how much I like the combat
>>345361683
CoX was better.
>>345362282
>>345362394
TESO is actually pretty fucking solid and they've been adding a LOT of meaningful content since the game went B2P. Problem is still a piss poor TES game and average MMORPG at its core.
>>345352563
>SMT Imagine
http://megaten.sesshou.com/wiki/index.php/Thanks_for_All_DBs
>>345362318
I mean, it's just PVP. There was some cool shit like city sieges but at the end of the day its either you're thing or it isn't.
FFXIV is pretty comfy because it lets me be a crafter/gatherer exclusively. I don't like the combat so I don't bother with it. People always want me to craft or gather stuff they need so it's been a nice way to make money in-game and friends.
>>345362667
Yes I know but it gone now because NCsoft was a fucking dick by killing it, and the only private server out there is a RPing Chat room. At the very least, Champions Online cover the character creation, the low level cap, and the building aspect to keep me interested for a long, long time. It helps that it's getting all the updates that it truly need after the update drought of the last couple of years.
>>345362063
If you keep replying to them, these xiv scumbags are just gonna keep arguing and keep doing mental gymnastics to twist their game into something more than shit.
>>345363202
>and the only private server out there is a RPing Chat room
Isn't that a disguise for the real development?
>>345362063
>you are not in a sandbox able to be a merchant or a dancer or a basket weaver for a living and instead have to be a tank/healer/dps
see
>>345363172
no one is forcing you to tank/heal/dps
>>345352563
>guild wars 2
>smiling
take it back NOW
DO IT
>>345360840
>tfw the physical discs and box is still sitting on my desk
>>345363432
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/329294076/#q329318916
Long story short, the dev for that server could make one, but is being stupid about it.
So, why havent there been another Shin Megami online game?
>>345352563
A Realm Reborn is doing pretty well though, every other MMO has shut down/merge servers or gone F2P within a year.
>>345363797
I don't think IMAGINE did very well.
>>345363614
>>no one is forcing you to tank/heal/dps
Nice try scumbag, the game forces you go to through the story as a special snowflake hero for you to be able to do crafting and gathering in HW.
gonna try both these out hopefully one of these are good
>>345355343
Yes and no.
Mostly full of BR tho.
Final Fantasy XI on the Nasomi Private Server
Absolutely love it. Loving the slower paced old school exp.
>>345348949
>no good MMOs out now
what is FFXIV
>>345363432
>>345363790
And here is the reddit thread about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cityofheroes/comments/45h1cq/revival/
>>345348949
Albion Online. Amazing for nolife.
>MMO thread
>no TSW
it's like you fucks don't want the hidden gems.
Is Neopets any good?
Heard it went to shit after it got bought up by some other company
>>345364186
If you wanna advertise it, might as well post the full name. I would be glad to try it out.
>>345363979
The story isn't mandatory to do Heavensward crafts. Gathering yes because of the zones but you can easily circumvent that by having someone else gather for you (here's where MMO socialization comes into play!) or just buy it from the marketboard.
>>345364126
A mediocre MMO with poor end game.
>>345352563
>DC Universe but no City of Heroes
>>345363202
If I enjoy fast paced levelling would it be worth getting myself to the equivalent of sub to that game if I was itching to play a super hero mmo?
I recently tried to get into AO again and it's the exact opposite, in terms of just being able to pick up and play if you are not acquainted, leveling is a chore in that sense.
I just want something I can get on and play for a few hours.
>>345363797
Imagine was a pretty niche and complex but grindy game. If a Persona or easier SMT MMO was made I'm pretty sure it won't bring back those who liked Imagine and it wouldn't last that long.
>You will never make a low-level demon like Harpy as strong as Samael in other SMT games
>>345364186
>huge difficulty spike in Transylvania if you haven't built the right kind of character
>second, bigger difficulty spike in Tokyo
I love it but Tokyo killed the game for me
>>345364454
Just stop trying so hard to shill your garbage to people who are clearly not for it, trash. If your game really is that good, you dont need to grovel for new subs so damn much.
>>345364736
I'm just merely correcting your fallacy, no need to have an autism attack anon.
>>345364464
well memed anon, you know it's still better than most of the current MMOs out there, oh wait, you must be probably subed to WoW right now, never mind then, you just have terrible taste
>>345364896
>>345364981
You xiv shills must have some real bad insecurities.
>>345363979
Not really, you can make good money just by selling fieldcrafts and mats pre-HW
>>345364981
>b-but WoW
It doesn't have the worst, but it's far from the best.
>>345365143
t. jaded mmo cuck
>>345365143
>mention one game
>s-stop shillin wahhhhhhhh!!
>you guys are sick of the over saturated market of singleplayer theme park MMOs? You should try FFXIV!
>insult anyone who disagrees
Every thread
>>345348949
>none coming in the foreseeable future
What if the age of MMOs is dead?
>>345365348
more like
>Mention FFXIV in a thread
>wowfags get triggered and start calling everyone a shill
>>345364454
Why is that everytime people say MMOs are antisocial these days and you don't need to group up anymore...people just ignore FFXIVs needs to be social and group up when it comes to crafting anything relevant or progressing past any extreme/savage content?
>>345365462
Like what ?
>>345363172
I have to admit, crafting and gathering is really comfy in this game, and I say that as someone who always fucking hated crafting in most mmos because they were either purely luck based or literally useless and outclassed by dungeon gears.
By the way, do you have any advice on how to level up the other crafting classes I have to 50 without levequests?
Having to wait several weeks for leves for 1 DoH class is seriously annoying.
>>345365543
everquest next
Das Tal will save the genre. It's nothing but ganking and looting in Bloodline Champions form.
>>345365528
You're both insufferable faggots.
>>345365516
Nah, we're entering the age of kickstarted MMORPGs. For good and bad.
You have the option to go back in time and remove one thing, or concept, from all MMOs.
What is it?
The ThemePark, the Holy Trinity, LFG, the death of Galaxies? What do you choose?
>>345365604
no more than you anon
Lineage 2 private Interlude low rate servers. Best MMO that ever was and most likely will be
>>345365531
because the trial didn't force me to talk or group up so I assume everything about the game is antisocial and soulless.
>>345365648
Remove yoship from existence.
>>345365659
I'm far more bearable than a bunch of ERPing lard asses arguing over whose mediocre themepark is better than the other.
>>345348949
This game cuts all ties with nexon in a few months
y-you'll play it with me then, right /v/?
>>345362920
fuck me
>it will not be long before we meet again
what did they mean by this?
>>345360210
>>345361039
I like how XIV has to constantly shit on WoW to make itself look good. That being said, actually playing the game is braindead as fuck because although you may know your rotation, it doesn't matter because the retards who I guarantee play on console act like they never touched a fucking video game in their life.
I fucking hate XIV's community. I really do.
>>345365565
>how to level up the other crafting classes I have to 50 without levequests?
you can either
-Unlock the Ixal quest in north shroud
-Do your crafting challenges
-Craft things you haven't crafted before for the bonus
>>345364610
Champions Online cover someone a hybrid of action and tab targeting, so if you're not into that, then the game might not be for you. As a f2p players, you are given classes call Archetype that generally just give you a build and you follow it. Compare to Freeform, which can be bought in game or you get tons of it if you sub/pay for the life time sub, you can pick and choose your power to fit however you like about that hero. Leveling wise, you can just hit the GRAB alert (think of them as short dungeons you queue with random players) and do them all day to get to level 40. You could also level up the old fashion way and do the overworld quest.
The only other super hero mmo that is worth trying is Marvel Heroes and you are giving to play as one of the marvel heroes instead of creating your own. The catch is that the playing style is diablo like and if you're into that, I would recommend Marvel Heroes just for this alone and over CO.
DCUO is just a DC fanboy jerking game that you're not a hero or a villain at all.
>>345365531
Because any extreme and savage content is useless? There's really no point in trying to clear it as it released because that's usually all there is for that kind of content and they're gonna get nerfed to the ground by that point. FFXIV thrives on making everything cakewalk for their average player.
>>345365531
Because every MMO but the one I have fond memories of is shit
>>345365720
what
lotro used to be SUCH a good game honestly
;(
>>345365979
Oh fuck I always forgot the ixal tribe quest, thank you for remind me!
>>345365978
no more than wowfags hating themselves, it is really fucking pathetic just to read some of the wow threads on /v/
all MMOs are shit and will always be shit from this point on because everyone will just read a guide on how to make the best cookie cutter character for most efficient damage output or whatever and at that point it just becomes endless grinding and quick dungeons with faceless players you paired up with using a LFG tool
MMOs are only fun when you have no idea what you're doing and are forced to interact with other players in game to get an idea of what to do, or when you want a party
basically this >>345358381 and this >>345358914
unless the developers find a way to somehow stop organized discussion of the game outside of the game (which is obviously ridiculous), a good MMO will never happen.
>you'll never have as much fun as your first MMO
Rest in peace Maplestory.
>>345365991
Nigga Thordan EX has been out since last year and people still beat him in duty finder and party finder with over leveled gear and echo buffs.
Same deal any savage coil.
>>345365986
>cover someone
cover something of*
>>345348949
I ONLY PLAY THE BEST
REMEMBER TO LOVE YOUR DELIAS
>>345366083
Surely you know its been canceled right ?
>>345365986
If you look at the content Cryptic is making for Star Trek Online and Neverwinter Online it's clear they can make good content, problem is original owners of Champions license don't really care what Cryptic is doing in their property. As a result CO is dead in a ditch somewhere.
>>345366136
I've seen WoW threads on /pol/ that were more productive. This board fucking blows.
>>345366209
I miss vindictus, I really do, I wish there was a private server just to raid
>>345366201
Still can't*
>>345365857
>Service transfer
With that game's community and the huge fuckup in Europe I was pretty sure it would've closed down.
>You will never play the best Habbo Hotel clone to ever grace the earth again
>Playing FFXIV
>Start the anima quest line
>It's pretty easy
>Suddenly I need to do around 600 runs of Alexander to get to the next stage
NOPE.
Fucking NOPE.
Fuck this, fuck you, fuck everything.
>>345354504
Yeah, I feel you. When I was younger, I'd mostly create new characters and level them up until level 30 or so, I never truly committed as much I'd like to now.
There are still some servers though I suppose.
>>345362114
by being a salty russian
>>345366390
>Start the anima quest line
I love FFXIV but I have never been able to do a single quest of those, it is extremely boring and pointless to me, unless you are a massive neet, I do not see the point on even trying
>>345354049
It was also bad.
There's that
>>345366136
It's pathetic that you XIV shills instantly equate any XIV hate to wow players. People who have played XIV and hated how it stagnated trying to cater to chucklefucks like you can't exist. Nope.
>>345365978
I bet you're a yuropoor
>>345366165
Which is so weird when you consider that once upon a time guilds jealously guarded secrets. Database sites always existed, but they had very general information because datamining wasn't a thing and everyone stuck to their clique,
>>345348949
PSO2 looks neat, but it requires a VPN and translation, so fuck that noise.
>>345366508
Well, if you are a tryhard min-maxer, it's pretty great since you can decide all the stats by yourself making it the perfect weapon.
>>345366508
I never did them besides the Coil unlock because I didn't have the time to do them and I was pretty sure if I did do them, then I would lag behind a stage.
>>345366390
it's 800 if that's your only source of unidentified stuff
>>345366526
sorry for liking a game anon, unlike you that hates everything
>>345352563
>Log onto Dofus a year or so back after a couple years
>Used to play it with friends from school
>All global chats are dead
>Like 3 players in tutorial area
>Not many more in main area
Anyone recommend any MMOs, preferably ones that deviate a little from just warrior, rogue, mage?
>>345366390
It's 600 runs of Alex if you only do that exclusively. You can make it a lot shorter by trading in esoterics, poetics, doing beast tribes, etc.
Took me 3 weeks to get my anima weapon just playing casually a few hours.
>>345352563
>tabula rasa and warhammer bad
Shit taste anon
>>345348949
>What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
single player games (everfall and factorio) and lol
downloading tree of life atm
>>345366586
PSO2 doesn't require a VPN, and PSO2 tweaker basically does everything for you, from patching the game to applying the english patches.
All you have to do yourself if make an account, which they have a guide for on their site.
>have a friend you use to play MMORPGs all day with
>knew him since grade schoo
>he decided to grow up
>stuck here trying to play these games alone
i hate being alive, it's so hard to make friends in games, i feel like a total bother
Why does Crowfall have to look like fucking shit? I'm sick of every western mmo looking like fucking dreamworks characters
>>345366526
Dude you must be really fun at parties. What do your friends think of you as a person?
>>345366648
I guess that's true, but I do feel that's a good way to burn yourself out of the game really quick
>>345366742
Warhammer was a literal WoW clone and Tabula Rasa was dead on arrival
>>345366774
>PSO2 doesn't require a VPN
They lifted the block from SEA?
>>345366745
>downloading tree of life atm
Just don't expect RO2. Proper RO2, not that 3D shit they made.
>>345359614
Ultima Online
>>345366907
>I didn't play the game
I think ESO is fun. Please don't kill me.
>>345366890
Yes, that's why I'm really scared of going for it since I have the habits of going full no-life breaindead farm on hard things and it burn me out like crazy.
>>345365543
Uh I don't know, LEGION?!
>>345366774
nah, I tried PSO2 for a while, it is pretty good and graphics are nice, but some of the text on some items and subquests details are still unstranslated
>>345366920
>Wanting to play SEA
Why?
It's the inferior version, is several months (or years now?) late of patches and has less players.
>>345366889
>>345366682
My friend thinks I'm alright. They all quit at the same time as me.
I like how you faggots resorted to passive aggresively attack me instead of putting forth an actual defense though.
>>345366242
Co is pretty much the MMO that help supply Cryptic with money just so they can make STO and NWO, although granted, they fuck both of the mmo up by increasing the level cap. Nonetheless, CO is getting some update to cover some "hardcore" content so those player can do something beside attending the Costume Contest or Rampage all day.
Did Dungeon Fighter die again or is it still alive and kickin?
>>345367007
Eh, it's mainly ruined by animation canceling/weaving and not being a true ES game.
>>345365694
Agreed.
Expansions became so bad after Interlude
>>345367007
I enjoyed ESO.But i cant afford all those DLCs with it.
Star Trek Online
FFXIV
The only fun ones left.
>>345366907
Why?
Warhammer was good if you only cared about PvP and still had ok pve.
Tabula rasa was fun but didn't seem to have any fundamental flawsthough may be biased cause my bro was hype as shit for it and after that game bombed he only plays fucking fifa
>>345366976
I played both, and I liked both
but WAR was still a WoW clone and Tabula Rasa still faceplanted immediately
>>345367175
>My friends thinks I'm alright
That's codename for "my friends are acquaintances "
>>345366873
probably ´coz is a kickstarter game
but i will overlook the shitty graphics if it is fun
How do you NEETs afford subscriptions and/or a PC capable of running games made in the last six years? I'm afraid to even run a game like Oblivion for extended periods of time, for fear that the graphics on my laptop will crap out (it's happened before).
>>345367308
>played it
>wow clone
>>345360210
>Not even the gameplay is similar.
Have you played WoW? Or any MMO in the last 5 years?
If you care about story in MMORPGs at all and appreciate good puzzles you really have no choice but go with The Secret World.
>>345367308
If WAR was a WoW clone then every fucking MMO post wow except for EVE is a WoW clone. They have their own flavor
Who here feels nostalgic about Mortal Online beta? When stealing was viable, anyone could build houses and it was a proper sandbox mmorpg. I miss those times, I wish there was something not as clunky, not p2w like that these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlTlSeNcDqo
>>345367482
Tell me more about it anon.
>>345367372
Getting a part time job helps. On top of that, don't even consider buying snacks like chips or soda, since those add up.
Is Black Desert Online dead too?
IIRC it was released around the same time as Blade & Souls but BS is overun by bots so I stopped playing it.
>>345367174
I meant does the JP version still block players from SEA. I would never touch the SEA version, are you insane? They just got MB3 but I'm pretty sure they won't be able to clear it there.
>>345367132
>not being excited for the revival of WOW
>>345348949
I honestly don't understand why people shit on FFXIV so much. Sure it doesn't innovate or break the mold entirely but it sure as hell does a lot of things right that modern MMOs fail at (lack of consistent content, game runs like shit on most computers, P2W/F2P BR trash, etc).
Can anyone even name me a MMO released in the last 3 years that have more than 300k active players?
>>345367609
BDO was never alive.
>>345367007
sell me on ESO, I never really cared about Elder Scrolls lore but I keep hearing it's a decent game now
>>345348949
>No good MMOs.
Isn't there an MMO coming out right now after the death of EQN which is supposed to be a successor and a copy of original EQ?
>>345367372
On the chance that this isn't bait, a medium tier PC that can run pretty much anything is like 600 dollarydoos, anon. Stop buying over priced laptops, and get a Desktop PC instead.
>>345352563
>Ultima Online
I wish all of you guys were there when it was released and the custom shards were alive and doing well (especially RP heavy ones).
>>345362617
Same here, tons of content despite the community bitching about microtransactions constantly. I find the game pretty fun with lots to do and keep coming back to it.
>>345367609
Normalfags came, realized it wasn't WoW, and left. Only people left playing are either A. newbies or B. KMMO elites
>>345367482
You know, The Templars never really came across as overly harsh. The Loominaty did much worse stuff that you get to see throughout the game but that also did some greater good stuff. Templars are just kind of there.
>>345367007
>Storage: 85 GB available space
>>345367609
It only sold 300k copies which for an MMO is a fucking disaster.
>>345367560
Mortal Online makes me sad because it's the kind of game that could've been modern Ultima Online, but it was made and ran by complete who still don't know what they're doing. Darkfall devs at least somewhat straightened up.
Anybody know if Albion Online is any good? Can I grind/farm my life away with other neets? Or is it shit?
>>345367903
not the same guy but its because templars basically made every mistake in the book over their centuries of existence. they learned from that.
>>345352563
What are you talking about Runescape isn't dead yet
>>345348949
World of Warcraft is my no-life time waster, coincidentally.
>inb4 kys
After you, anon.
>>345348949
What is the ultimate NEET MMO /v/?
A game where you can sink thousands of hours into and never get bored
>>345364432
The Secret World
>>345364684
They recently revamped parts of the combat system to make elites and a bunch of passives more viable. Coupled with the Tokyo nerf a while back it is substantially easier.
>>345368221
Runescape Maplestory WoW
>>345368221
You want Evercrack/P1999 or Runescape
>>345368221
Life.
>>345368221
FFXIV
Go NEET crafting or go home
>Mfw for years now I keep resisting the urge to play Perfect World again
This game is important for me because this is where I experienced my first ERP andsexcam from a MILF
>>345364684
Once you've get geared up, Tokyo isn't that bad. You were training on those bullshit scenarios, right?
Warframe
Path of Exile
>>345348949
Just switching from game to game while never finishing anything at all. I miss my MMO life.
>>345368216
>RS3 is filled with XP/m faggots even before unlocking Priff
>Jagex keeps giving shitty updates to OSRS
This is life support.
I will try that riders of icarus on steam. Taming and riding mounts looks pretty neat and someone said that you can tame like 90% mounts of the game.
I dont have any hype for it though, its just to kill some time.
>>345368221
Mine was warframe, but I traveled for a couple months and got triggered when I came back and learned that I missed some exclusive stuff because I'm a completionist, autism I know but my friend at DE wouldn't hook me up and I haven't picked it up since
why do people want to play the worst type of game imaginable?
>>345368013
You mean its a circle jerk fest where even the admins themselves are corrupt as shit, even being caught removing siege engines from the game if they find it a threat against their village or villages of their little group of friends.
>>345368221
My favorite MMO
I still play WoW and refuse to switch to another one until another one with good PVP comes out. Arena is still unmatched.
Anyone played Gloria Victis? How is it?
>>345368221
Mabinogi was pretty up there.
>>345368630
Why would you be a completionist in a mobile tier game?
Do you even have Excal Prime?
>>345368221
Runescape
>>345368868
>was
What are reforges and R1ing?
>>345368668
Because people who play MMOs are usually people who have unfufilles lives and need a grind to give them purpose.
I've seen it happen to a bunch of NEETs before. They would rather grind in some MMO like FFXI or Everquest than get a real career or do something productive with their life.
>>345368221
>What is the ultimate NEET MMO /v/?
that would be EVE online, it is literally a job and everything takes several minutes to do, good thing is that you can invest so much time that you can actually pay for your sub with ingame money and still make profite, then quit after a few years of 'fun', sell your account and make good $$$.
>>345366689
EverQuest, if you can get past its dated gameplay and UI
>>345348949
The same shit I played when I was 13, fucking Runescape.
>>345368508
please give details on this, I want to fap to your story
Huxley
>>345367782
PVP is pretty cool. Combat is action based but a bit floaty. World is huge. Class system is flexible and crafting is easy. Skip all lore and story and you'll have a blast.
>>345362063
>Thus yes, classes are similar to wow no matter how much the rotation differs (bullshit pic btw, I raided during wod as a brewmaster and constantly used at least 20 different skills with 20 more on hand just to react to shit without a fixed rotation).
PSOBB is still the best MMO ever, all your shitty skinnerbox simulator MMOs have nothing on this beast.
>>345348949
man i cant recognise this game. Name?
>>345369267
Post the Monk one.
>>345367782
>leveling
pretty much the same as in every mmo, but there's no need to rush to level cap
>classes
classes are really the best thing about the game imo. offers possibilty to make your fantasy come true. ofc there are cookie cutter builds, but nobody else worries about those but the people who compete in leaderboards
>pve
desu i've played the game for about 200h and i've ever only done 2 dungeons, but those were pretty fun.
>pvp
basically its the "castle siege" game. Mostly is just zerging, but very engaging in that. You can also go "ganking" and still you and your faction benefits from it.
>crafting/trading
No global AH which is good imo. but somewhat tedious if you are shopping for as specific item, but there are guild traders which can be located almost anywhere in the world except in cyrodil (pvp zone) Crafting ain't nothing new, but i like how you mostly get the best items in the game by crafting. It is heavy on the RNG, but there are mechanics to fight against it.
Feel free to ask.
>>345369224
>gamespy symbol
>>345369109
You're projecting too much there.
Some people just want to live a second/different life that breaks up their routines.
>>345363979
>the game forces you go to through the story
The game is called Final Fantasy XIV, of course you have to go throught a story.
If it was called "Final Fantasy Online" then we could consider it a spin off and you would get the point...but it's a main line Final Fantasy game that at the same time is an MMO.
>>345367602
If you have a part time job, then you're not really a NEET, just underemployed.
>>345369364
I don't have WoW Monk, but have FFXIV Monk.
>>345369267
UI I raided with. Most of those are macro which change based on target and tertiary button presses.
Smoke a pole.
>>345369572
I meant FF. There's one picture that goes through everything including cross class stuff and looks super complex.
>>345369396
What's wrong, anon?
>>345364020
let me know if marvel feels like the xmen legends games
wildstar is pretty good.
>>345364020
Both are okay/pretty good.
>>345369676
here
>>345369628
with the way WoW skills work now, you can macro your key abilities to one hotkey with an autohotkey program and still succeed.
>>345369680
symbol of a bygone era provoke feeling
>>345369891
Sure you can. Tell yourself whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact the game is exactly the same flavor of shit as wow.
>>345369697
Marvel Heroes is basically a Diablo clone with some events, raids, and a shit ton of playable characters, some that are fun as fuck.
If you can run the game well, I recommend it.
>>345348949
Guild Wars (not the sequel)
>>345369891
Is this usefull for Heavensward? I'm leveling a MNK just now.
>>345369451
>OP asks for A
>People reccommends XIV
>"but XIV isn't A, it's B"
>well yeah, it's FF! Of course it's B!
Really dude? Is this really how far you're willing to shill the game?
>>345369219
It's nothing crazy Anon, I was like 15 years old and played in a guild of people around 20-36 years old, and there was a lot of lewd discussions and I told them that I was still a virgin.
So she contacted me via pm, that she wanted to "talk" and discuss via MSN webcams and she would wear very skinny and sexy clothes and one day she wanted to pick up something on the ground and showed me her ass and vagina, she noticed I was red like a tomato and asked me if I had a boner, I said yes and she showed me her breasts and we started doing sex cams after that where she would watch me masturbate.Then one day her husband came in early and she never returned online on msn or in the game.
>>345370178
I liked Marvel Heroes but I'm holding out continuing untilBeastcomes out. Even then I feel scared about the game shutting down right after he comes out.
>>345370395
There's zero chance of Marvel Heroes getting shut down the way Marvel is printing money. Shit, they keep adding content on regular basis based on the movies.
>>345361039
incredibly complicated rotation doesnt make a game good just like over simplification.
>>345370332
nice
>it's a "___ is a complex class because it has a lot of buttons, but I'll leave out that most are cooldowns and rarely touched" episode
>>345370007
Whatever you say dumbass.
will Eyedentity save this game?
>>345369628
>Most of those are macro
So most of those are not single skills, are combination of skills the game will do automatically in succession when you press a button? And this while you have DBM yelling GO LEFT!! GO RIGHT!!! NEXT BOSS SKILL INCOMING USE YOUR CD'S!!! AOE DAMAGE MOVE AWAY!!!
WoW. Such skill.
>>345369224
I remember beta testing that. I don't remember it ever releasing, though. I think it died soon after closed beta.
>>345370592
that's not even complicated, are you dumb?
>>345370637
>There's people that unironically play wow like this.
>>345370293
Yes, it's still relevant.
>>345370592
>BLM
>Incredibly complicated
Bitch BLM has the easiest rotation of the whole fucking game. If you found that complicated NEVER play FFXIV or any MMO with more than 5 skills.
>>345370293
a solid lv50 rotation will make you a better monk than 90% of the FFXIV community
>>345370691
There is no such thing as a macro to cast a succession of skills in wow, nice way to show you don't know shit about the game.
Wow macros are just a way to bind MORE skills to a single slot and then pull them off depending on a set of conditions.
>>345370637
What does some russian playing on a 4:3 crt back in 2007 have to do with this?
>>345370834
mmo players are weird. they want a bunch of shit cluttering their screen to tell them shit they could easily remember on their own.
>shit bro, I better download an addon to put an icon front and center on my screen to let me know when my crit spell is up.
>this talk about WoW clones
You don't know shit about WoW clones unless you played TOR.
>>345370657
dragon nest bros ww@
general dead since forever
>>345370635
If you were talking about >>345369572 or >>345369267 it's not the situation. In FFXIV most of the skills are used on normal rotation.
>>345371101
There used to be a macro command to cast in succession in WoW, but they removed in sometime ago.
You can still achieve the same thing with addon/third party program (autohotkey). It takes 2 minutes to setup and it simplifies the game tremendously.
>>345371151
Played swtor and what you say is true but only for the Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior classes. The rest of the classes like the Trooper or the Sniper have nothing similar in WoW.
Taking a break from EverQuest, because Velious is boring as fuck. Waiting for luclin to unlock on the server so i can have something to do at 60 outside of raids.
some of myfriendsare wanting to level up in WoW, so i might go hit that up for a bit.
Waiting for 3.5 to go back to FFXIV
>>345371101
>There is no such thing as a macro to cast a succession of skills in wow
Heh, tell that to WOTLK hunters and the legendary PiroBlast macro.
>>345371008
The challenge in playing BLM is not the rotation, its knowing which skills you can eat without dying and which skills will kill you, forcing you to move without losing the enochian buff.
Every second you are moving and not casting means hundreds of dps loss.
>>345367609
They fucked up and made it a singleplayer game. Pretty much everything you could do with another player is limited or not there. No crafting together, no riding wagons together.
Also the endgame is RNG. Literally rng, praying for the .02% chance item to drop from mobs to equip. And than doing it a second time for the small chance to DUO that same item. Oh and if you fail both are gone.
I had fun, but fuck koreans. My 70 man guild died over 2 weeks as we all got sick of alting or getting 1 character geared.
I have a problem. I can't get into an online game if I miss the launch. I have been programmed into wanting the limited edition perks of being a "founder" or "veteran".
I'm always on the look out for the next MMO, but I refuse to try those I missed because I can't get the $150 founder packs and titles anymore. Weird shit man.
For example I been tempted to play Warframe but I dismissed it since launch never even installed, now I want to check it out but because I know I can't get the original founder packs I wont even try it.
I'm fucking broken.
>>345371580
And that's why I cry every time i remember they nerfed our defensive skills.
>>345371821
You can always try to join when an expansion is released. It's not the same but it's the best second.
>>345371101
so what you're saying is you have macros that do the same abilities on your hotbar but for "different" situations?
is it one of those pop all dps/tank cooldowns macros?
>>345366165
I've been able to replicate it to an extent by not reading any guides when I jump into MMOs.
The community is still completely irredeemable though because they will look at guides and lecture me on how I'm a shitter because I didn't follow [cookie cutter build guide].
>this game is x years old how are you still this retarded
>you have too many points in x
>WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THE BOSS MECHANICS?!!?!?!??!?!
It's like it's completely unfathomable that I learn from observing/experience like I always did. People in MMOs are so retarded half the time it's amazing how unaware they are that a dragon breathes fire. I'm not saying they need to read guides but they need some common sense.
I think it's why I have a disdain for modern MMOs, they have to hand-hold because everyone else is so inept they can't observe their surroundings instead of crying about their repair bills and/or blaming others. It's such a shit deal because MMOs thrive on having a good amount of people to play with, but when it gets too populated with shameless retards the game is changed to please them instead. It's a delicate balance and due to corporate motives the game devs will always have to lean toward profit or die.
TL;DR it's fucked.
>That F2P MMO you will never get to play again because the servers died and there isn't enough interest in private servers
What's her name /v/?
>>345371832
that's the price you gotta pay for having the best ranged single target damage in the game.
>>345370657
>>345371185
Nexon NA is probably gonna drop it to another shittier publisher.
In other news from Nexon it took Mabinogi a year and a half to get Gen20 and Fate stay events.
Playing BDO right now best mmo out there, which is sad but true. The only people that left are salty faggots that got dunked on or didn't want to actually play an mmo.
>>345371598
God, you make glad I didn't even try it.
RNG end game is the fucking worst and laziest way to virtually make your endgame last longer.
>>345372194
No, it's stuff like "if holding alt cast on self else on focus" or similar. Just to have more control over individual skills.
>>345372407
You lucky I haven't played BDO or else I would refute that so hard.
Tfw gw2 was ruined by dragons and the lgbtqia+ cast of marry sues
The game is just bad
>>345348949
Legion is looking pretty nice to get to max level on. Can't say much past that. The class stuff is neat as hell.
>>345352563
>Tabula Rasa
lost
>>345372407
Nexon NA is granting the publisher rights back to Eyedentity.
>>345352704
>>345361629
For the love of God link please. I miss that game so much. Even the jpn servers closed down
>>345363639
It was more enjoyable than 95% of the mmorpg games now. You gw1 idiots you should just shut up since everyone finds you annoying.
>>345372596
>if holding alt cast on self else on focus
you actually need macros for that? lol
can't believe WoW still doesn't have that shit built into the keybind settings
>>345372407
>Playing BDO right now best mmo out there
How is it the best mmo when it could easily have just been a single player game?
>>345363849
Mostly because of the FF fanbase. If it would have an other name it would have died out. Hell i even think that they are more sticky than the Blizzard drones.
>>345369109
>They would rather grind in some MMO like FFXI or Everquest than get a real career or do something productive with their life.
Well to be fair modern era isn't worth helping at the moment. Maybe when humanity returns back to it's roots of community and free speech and purging society of the parasites then humanity will be worth helping out again, but right now modern era has been taken over by globalism, sjws, welfare queens, political correctness, moochers, immigrants(You know those fuckers don't assimilate into American culture), degeneracy and cuckolds.
I wish more people played wildstar.
FFXIV music > WoW music
>>345369109
An MMO doesn't have barriers of entry.
What MMO's can I play if I don't live in America/Europe>?
I cant play MMOs because I have 200+ms ping
>>345372646
What's there to refute every bullshit thing spewed about BDO is plain wrong, the NA/EU versions people complain about that cynicism has become tangible garbage. They are literally rushing the game over the course of the first 6 months of release for over 2 years worth of content. And people complain about that.
The majority that play mmos now, hop between mmos and read to much into shit that they know nothing but overhyping or doomsaying. They aren't the kind of people that are good at video games either especially action mmos when they compare them to tab target hotkeys.
People over anticipated what an mmo should be today given that the majority of mmos are casual trash. When something good comes along it's always wah it's to much rng or to hard, pvp isn't balanced because wah I suck at action games. They also use the throw the term around it has to matter and that fun is a buzzword. The majority adopted shitposting tier of cynicism with gimmie attitudes of casual faggotry. That's what ruined mmos. And it's ruining BDO, because it takes 12 hours to get to 56 awakening weapon tier now from level 1, because of whiny faggots.
>>345352563
I miss XI and rdm.
>>345372407
I love it as a casual MMO fan. The combat is great and you don't have to deal with 18 bars of hotkeys shitting up your screen. All the activities are basically grinding mini games, but are fun enough in their own right. Talking to NPC's for Amnity is fun too. While I actually love the combat, I don't feel like grinding forever to be viable in PVP, so I do all the other shit, and do quests from time to time.
>>345372194
>>345371101
>>345370637
what is /cs for 500 dale?
>mfw I'll never play survival project again
This game was sick when I was a kid.
>>345373424
By a mile
>Doing Thordan EX
>Hard as FUCK
>Dodging every Knight of the Round mechanic
>Thordan comes again to battle to push our shit
>This begins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZHfOs2XOc
This is the hypest fight I have seen on an MMO.
>>345373413
I gave Wildstar a chance but I was immediately put off by its horrible artstyle. Visually, the game looked like a clusterfuck.
>>345364113
How play on?
Been wanting to play some XI again, at the very least to experience it again past level 30ish.
>>345373424
Not even hard to accomplish that.
>>345373793
Viable in pvp means fuck all when it is actually mostly skill, getting the average gear of +18 is a fucking joke despite all the doomsaying about +20 gear.
People plain suck at video games now.
>>345373669
The will implement red mage in xiv. They already gave some info as it will be a melee magic caster using rapiers.
>>345364113
How many people play on Nasomi?
>>345373424
my mmo's music can beat up your mmo's music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuWqWNEJ_YY
>>345373424
>WAKE UP IN SWEAT
>there will never be an MMO that's as open, immersive, and well-maintained as The World was in .HACK
Feels bad.
>>345374030
That's ok but you can't beat a classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-ueWupuDI
>>345373963
That's good to know then. I'm about level ~34-35 now. Mostly farming and fishing. Going to set up a trade route. I might bother leveling faster now to try out the PvP.
What the fuck are people complaining about again?
Nost is dead but Kronos is still alive and well, with no chance of Blizz intervening.
>>345373839
That's fine, not everyone shares the same taste in visuals. At least you gave the game a shot.
Personally I don't like games that go for photo realism unless it's colorful and stylized.
>>345373413
Here is the reason why I don't even play Wildstar anymore:
-Leveling to max is one of the worst I seen in mmo, and this is coming from a player that love P1999 and some Korean MMO
-Bombarded with quests that doesn't give you the daylight for you to explore the fucking place
-Leveling is shit
-Nobody queue for dungeon at all during the level up
-Leveling is shit
>>345374229
is there any music in ffxiv that's original and not just a remix of past ff tracks?
>>345374173
Never will happen as long as the current mmo genre is ran into the ground by complete faggots,
the example here >>345373649
People over anticipate, doomsay and over hype, then expect to be spoon fed casualizing the shit out of any game they touch.
>>345362114
blackmail or being a competing server.
>>345374469
Most of everything in Heavensward is a original track, same deal with ARR.
>>345374270
If you're a gather side shit kind of person then you should have been stockpiling hard and sharps. The failstack system isn't the roughest in the world and you can update your gear to be able to farm mediah content in under 25m now.
At 34-35 you could easily do the main story line and jump straight to 50 in about 3 hours with another 5-6 going to 56.
>>345374469
This masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_3hRm7K8g
>>345371257
>sometime ago
If by sometime ago you mean 7 FUCKING YEARS AGO then yes, they removed it sometime ago.
>>345374403
Leveling isn't that bad, the worst part is the bombardment of quests sometimes like you said. If you stick to main quests though then it's fine.
A good rule of thumb for group content is to always try to get a group together in chat. I was able to get a group together for an adventure at lvl 15 the other day in seconds. The one part of leveling that is ded is pvp. That barely happens.
>>345374297
>Nost is dead but Kronos is still alive and well, with no chance of Blizz intervening.
How so?
>>345374005
It peaks at 315 or so at it's highest with an average of 150. You'd think a server like nasomi wouldn't work like that but level-sync helps alot.
>>345373887
http://nasomi.com/wiki/doku.php?id=config:installing
Explains it better than I could.
>>345374818
>removed
???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6HP0mmU1AY
>>345374469
99,99% of the tracks are new. Another thing is that people love the other FF references and they post them.
Like this master piece from Alexander Midas 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg
>>345348949
Skyforge was garbage. It's not even an MMO.
>>345374270
>>345374735
Oh and I forgot they hand you all that money now with reward system within the first 50 levels at 55 you get another 10-15m for free and every other quest in Valencia gives 100k to 1m plus huge contribution and skill points, to quest in valencia people made out the horse shit excuse that you need full 15-18 gear to do shit there, reality you only need 10-13 depending on class to do shit there.
You can make upwards of 8-11m an hour grinding at sausans in mediah now.
>>345370637
That looks like made on purpose.
No way someone will play with both GRID and another piece of raid frames. Same with the buffs tracking being fuckhuge and having threat meter open as a resto druid.
Shit on wow as much as you want, just be objective about it otherwise you look silly.
>>345374000
Yea will probably resub for that if it comes next expansion. Won't be the same, but at least I can rock the hat again.
>>345352563
>Anarchy Online
>neutral face
your entire chart is invalid
>>345374000
WHAT?
WHEN?
WHERE?
I WANT IT!
>>345375326
there are people out there who seriously play WoW like that.
have you seen top raiders UIs? shit is cluttered with DBM text, UI frames, popups and audio ques, dps/threat meters, etc.
>>345370332
Shitthatneverhappened.jpeg
>>345353558
it's okay, HORRIBLY optimized though.
The game putters around for me on my newer machine worse than it did on my 2006 machine that I played it on for years.
The game claims it's running at 120fps, but every time i encounter someone in the world the game just HANGS for a second or so.
>>345375326
Maybe it's on purpose...but I've seen some legit screens from my friend's pc and instead of an MMO it felt like an Addon management simulator when he was fighting any kind of boss.
>>345374000
DPS?
>>345375086
>press this one macro to faceroll
WoW will always be gay because of this, no skill involved ever. Just copypaste what some guy theorycrafted.
>>345370637
Feels bad that you cant customize your UI in xiv, doesnt it?
>>345375595
Didn't most people go for the minimalistic approach with very little on the screen a couple of years ago?
Haven't really checked UIs lately(few years).
>>345375813
No, Samurai will be the DPS.
>>345367609
>Is Black Desert Online dead too?
Hell no. Or at least, not the sever I casually play on and get carried by my hardcore BDO friends. Fucking towns always filled with AFK money whores and people still PK on the regular in OP ass grass suit. And new content is releasing in a few days.
>Blade & Soul
This game is popular as fuck right now. Have you seen their F.Report? B&S is their best game in every region right now and it increase Global(Outside of Korea) total sells by %5 in just NA. That's insane.
>>345348949
tell me about it
Tree of Savior is a disappointment and there doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon, it's shit
dota/MHG are the only timesinks I have now
>>345357273
>>345358332
>>345358385
No it isn't, fuck outta here.
>>345358642
Champions Online is fucking terrible and I still laugh at faggots who try to rationalize playing it after being duped into buying lifetime subscriptions
>>345376065
Pokémon GO
>>345358332
SWTOR plays almost exactly like WoW except for the voice acted dialogue/conversations.
The core gameplay is boring, and in fact the combat isn't even as good as WoW's. The mouse rotation snaps around too fast even if the sensitivity is at 1% for rotation speed and the movement and jumping is really stiff. Especially the jumping. I don't know why they decided to do jumping puzzles on the Heroengine when it has such stiff floaty jumping. ESO has that stiff floaty movement too (same engine) but at least they had the decency to not make you do jumping puzzles with it.
>riding on speeder
>someone starts shooting at you
>strafe to the side
>blaster bolts literally curveball to hit your speeder and dismount you.
>>345360608
mah nigga fell cleave best skill
Anyone else ironically find /v/ MMO threads more comfy than any MMO out right now?
>your favorite MMO is still alive but the community is dead
take me back
take me back to the good times
Why don't people play Anarchy Online anymore
Why aren't you fags playing PSO2?
>>345376065
Vindictus
>>345375931
The hot new UI style is to have a ton of crap on your screen while playing at a high resolution so you can actually fit everything on your screen and pretend that all the addons you have make the game more complex.
>>345376428
I was wondering when you would show up
>>345376487
i've been here for a while >>345366209
>>345376428
vindeadust
>>345376426
Because Vegas and Ult Amduscia aren't out yet?
Because I'm burnt out from Yamato, Mining Base Despair/Demise and PD?
>>345376428
not an mmo
>>345376552
stop!!
>>345376428
Yo, I finally got into this game, playing the female version of this. Man I wish I had got into it years ago. The combat...
I really wish the people running Wildstar didn't fuck it up so bad, game had some of the most fun combat and raiding/dungeons I've ever played but the game died so fast.
>>345367674
>revival of WOW
yeah you keep telling that to yourself every expansion, we know how it'll end
>>345376695
Is that still Vindictus?
Doesn't look like Evie or whoever the scythe chink was.
>>345376041
With node wars BDO is back up to 100k concurrent players, the only eastern mmo to have more is XIV, but it's a given haven for people that "quit" WoW. BNS has about twice as many players as Tera, but that's grasping for straws though given Tera is only 5k concurrent max now.
>>345376942
she's in dark knight transformation 2
>>345376426
For the last fucking time PSO2 is not a MMO. It's a lobby based multiplayer game. Every lobby is a instance and same with every group you create in that same lobby. There is no persistent world. PSO2 is about as MMO as Destiny.
>>345376695
is dead man MOVE ON.
>>345376830
Fuck you. They made us wait 4+ years for best game. All because of this western trash. I'm happy they burned to the ground. Fuck em. They'll never get a taste of my water after being in the hot desert for days. FUCK EM.
who BSGO here
This game was the absolute shit for a couple years
Just a big sandbox where two factions constantly try to kill eachother with huge fleet battles
>>345376830
I heard the game died because high end content was pretty hard. Like every boss had +100 possible skills and you couldn't just read or watch a guide for that. It was 100% based on player reaction speed and the players were not ready for that so they returned to easyer and predictable MMO's like wow.
>>345375924
nigga what??
of course you can
>>345377003
>being this triggered
Anon... who fucking cares what they call it.
Btw kill yourself for caring what they call it.
>>345376426
I'd play if I had one friend who played it as much as I do. It's not fun being alone.
>>345373029
>blizz2 on AST
? ??? ?? ? ?? ???
>>345377096
I made it 4 bosses into the first 20 man raid (stopped because of the roster boss + our guild leader literally was locked out of the raid permanently and they couldnt fix it for him) and it was very challenging but fun. You had to have interrupt groups (i.e. have 10 people all use an interrupt at the same time to break a bosses interrupt armor) to stop skills so you have to be coordinated and a whole bunch of cool shit (look up X89, simply but really fun).
>>345377108
Vindictus is considered an absolute failure on all parts to true fans of the actual game it was suppose to be, which was Mabinogi. Hell it's still called Mabinogi Heroes on KR, but it doesn't deserve that. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a mabinogi sequel then fuck up every single aspect of mabinogi.
>>345348949
That game looks half way decently designed, what is it?
>>345377229
>who fucking cares what they call it
you're in a MMO thread recommending a non MMO
may as well recommend Halo too.
>>345377038
You actually play blade and soul?
I thought wildstar's questing was boring until I tried BnS. I didn't even make it to lvl 14.
>>345377061
is it dead?
>>345365857
Don't worry anon that game has my soul so I'll always keep coming back. Especially excited for service transfer.
>>345376965
>BNS has about twice as many players as Tera, but that's grasping for straws though given Tera is only 5k concurrent max now.
You may want to google "ncsoft financial report 2016" then come back.
>>345377280
>not spamming blizz2 in town like the special snowflake AST you are
>>345360037
Age of Conan was fine until they cut more and more world PvP to appease the carebears.
I want an MMO with moderately dynamic combat (i.e. not just mashing the same macro over and over again) and some actually interesting character customization and a game that's entertaining all the way through, not just endgame.
such a game will never exist so fuck it.
What do you know about this riders of icarus? Is it good?
>>345376428
>>345376695
still can't believe this is running on the same game engine as half life 2 and dota 2
>>345377096
Wildstar's difficulty is way overblown by shitters. It's not an impossible game, it's challenging and requires a level of competence and knowledge from players, just having good gear isn't enough.
>>345377368
Why isn't PSO2 a MMO anon. By definition, where is this 'error' in your calms?
>lobby based multiplayer game.
That's not even a genre. That's something you made up or heard someone else make it up.
>>345376041
The towns are always filled because you can literally fish while you sleep.
>>345377370
BNS has decent gameplay, but bots, hackers, the massive p2w shit ruin an otherwise pretty fun game.
>>345377737
Just stop right there, stare at a wall.
You just enjoyed your time more than playing Riders of Icarus.
>>345377342
it's Skyforge and no, it's bad. It's not even really an MMO, it's lobby based.
>>345377338
Vindictus is a prequel though, but even then Mabi is starting to age badly.
>>345377703
Dragon Nest 4 years ago
>>345377812
I just liked the mecha boss thingy, I was never going to actually play it.
Does /v/ want to play an MMO together?
I mean, it's not like I want to play with you or anything
>>345377958
Bitch, you a healslut or what.
>>345377958
I play FF14 but pretty much everyone here who plays it is split up across servers
>>345377778
A MMO must have a persistent world. AKA a world that is still active even if nobody is inside it. (For instance, FFXIV still has FATE quests, gathering node timers, hunts, and other things going on even if 0 players are in a zone). In PSO2, there is no such thing as a persistent world. You create a instanced lobby and only you and the people inside your instance can interact with your zone. Once you finish your mission and the group disbands, your "world" disappears forever.
If there is no persistent world, it's just a typical online lobby game like Borderlands or Vindictus.
>>345360210
As someone who has played warrior for about half a year now in FFXIV.
It is not, and never has been that complicated. I get more challenge out of playing a WoW Warrior tank. Largely because you have more tools for any situation that you need to use.
Dont get me wrong, WAR in FFXIV is still fun. But the lack of any real substance hurts it.
I miss granado espada, nobody can judge me
>>345377861
Dragon nest was a great game back then, the rng egg shit ruined it...having to gamble just to be viable end game was wrong.
>>345377958
we should start the general back up once the server transfer goes through!
>>345377778
It is a genre, its in the same genre as diablo and guild wars
I'm back to DFO right now. I might join WoW for pre-patch, but I'm still unsure when.
BDO is a great game, but it got too boring for me after a while. Wasn't really into PvP and it's such a complicated game with a lot of grinding.
TOS has until the end of the month before I drop it completely. It's so mishandled I can't possibly defend it. Questing is the only way to level aside from some grinding spots? First event in three months? No balancing from Korea? What a joke. They're finally realizing that the western market can only put up with so much for so long. It really makes me wonder what korean games are like.
FF14's patches are too predictable now. They switch between a gear advancement and a gear catch up patch every few months and it's getting old. By all means, if you haven't played FF14 before, it's solid, but I can't see myself returning before the next expansion. I'll drop it if they don't release tall bunny girl race.
Maple is still a dead money grab, Vindictus is kind of alive, Dragons Nest will probably do worse after the publisher switch. Tera, Wildstar, BNS all dead.
>>345378142
My nigga
I played that shit back when it was pay to play. Such a shame to see an innovative title go to such shit and be passed around between a bunch of companies I've never even heard of.
>>345378181
Are they transfering chars/ starting clean from sea nest or are they keeping the 90 cap shit?
If we could go back to 40 cap with current characters I would play so much.
Are you guys from USA?
>>345378130
Don't play Warrior then. Play something more complicated. Keep in mind the more complicated you go makes fights much harder, especially endgame savage and extreme stuff (when they first come out).
>>345378225
TOS is dying in general, in a few months all you're gonna have left are memories of 2.0-0.5 FPS and SoundTemp and friends's RO B-sides.
>>345377958
my man, listen to me.
you do not want to play an MMO with /v/.
Here's what usually happens
1) The most autistic and power-trippy player makes a guild, proceeds to invite pretty much anyone that asks in the thread
2) thread fills up almost instantly with FOTMers who want to chat while they (barely play)
3) Most of these people are fucking memespouters, prepare to see > everywhere.
4) Guild gets too full, leader refuses to cut the chaff, another autist complains, makes another guild
5) By this point discussion has been shuffled off to /vg/. There, guilds continue to take on any retard that asks to get in and split as they get full and fight each other.
6) Tripfagging begins, threads devolve into nothing but anti-guild or anti-player drama, trying to talk about the game is impossible, and people either play solo, find randoms to guild with, or just stop playing
>>345378323
you can choose to transfer your current characters or start fresh on the new Eyedentity servers
>>345378021
I would really like to play a support based character.
I was thinking of something like Anarchy Online, it has a very wide berth of classes to play and they are all good fun.
>>345377156
i wouldnt call moving elements customizing, but i cant deny it.
>>345377958
Anon, this whole thread is about how none of the MMOs satisfy us anymore.
If you can find a fun one, then yes.
>>345378108
and where is your source, where did you hear this from and why are you supporting it? Who was it that said this?
>>345378391
I am just thinking of a few people, I doubt there are enough people on /v/ that would actually be interested in really playing a video game
>>345377958
Come play Secret World.
>>345369572
A lot of those buttons can be bound together since they're fire and forget when CD is up, or buffs
Some of them serve no combat purpose
That image is incredibly misleading.
>>345378391
This is very accurate. I tried playing an MMO with a /v/ guild once and it was pretty fucking bad.
There were 3-4 people that were perfectly capable, dedicated and not memespammers and we just ended up doing our own thing eventually, was a lot of fun.
>can't enjoy an mmo if its dead
fucking kill me. I never liked WoW and I don't want to sub to ffxiv (mainly just turned off about buying heavensward)
>>345378036
And 90% of anyone from /v/ or /vg/ that plays is just ERP faggots.
>>345378108
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mmo%20definition
You're so wrong.
And this is the part where you sperg out and go all "MY OPINION IS SUPERIOR" on me. I've read you like a book.
Check & Mate.
>>345372664
Don't worry, LS3 is coming out soon.
More adventures with the 2 lesbians, downie and cripple.
>>345378391
>>345378650
I understand being mad with memespouting, but what's wrong with using > when you know everyone you're talking to browses the same site as you?
Obviously just talking about using it with you guys and not in Shout chat or something like that because that's gay.
for all those
>muh buttons
ffxiv people, imagine if /castsequence macro were introduced to the game. Everyone would have literally 1 button to press. wow has that and it still aint no 1 button fest.
>>345378528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game
>MMORPGs are distinguished from single-player or small multi-player online RPGs by the number of players able to interact together, and by the game's persistent world (usually hosted by the game's publisher), which continues to exist and evolve while the player is offline and away from the game.
>These include several common features: persistent game environment, some form of level progression, social interaction within the game, etc
>The server software generates a persistent instance of the virtual world that runs continuously without player intervention
>>345378391
>trying to talk about the game is impossible
That's the worst part of the generals. Some of them are pretty much "How's my transmog/glamour/whatever" with the occasional tranny or off-meds faggot causing shit and making the other person the butt of the joke.
Can't wait to try the beta for this themepark.
Too bad it will just end up being F2P/P2W garbage.
Camelot Unchained looks really interesting but I need muh PvE content.
>>345378870
This is how they start;
>Massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs) are a combination of role-playing video games and massively multiplayer online games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a game world of endless size. This means that MMORPGs are online games where a player is able to play with other people all around the world.
Keep on nip picking though.
>>345378794
Because its different on 4chan because no one can have a legit discussion here so bantz is fine. When you're talking to someone in a chat where you can respond like a human being, its horrible.
>>345378584
except it doesn't work that way, try actually understanding the game's mechanics first.
>>345378852
you can already setup a /castsequence macro but you will be heavily limiting yourself due to how macros work in FF14.
>>345378794
Not that anon but I have had similar experiences. It's not like there's a big problem it's just people do stupid shit like
>implying
>shiggy dig
>[current year]
Nonsense shit you know
>>345378334
Well Paladin is even simpler than Warrior, and DRK is mostly just learning to weave in your plethora of OGCD abilities.
Same issue as warrior, whats there is solid, but whats there isnt all that much when it comes to options.
>>345372329
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
I'm honestly surprised it isn't in this image
>>345352563
>>345354504
That's too bad anon. Playing Lineage 2 in my high school days was some of the most fun I've had with gaming. The castle siege system made that game so much fun to play with a large group of people in ventrilo because there was a lot of planning and strategy that went into defending and attacking castles as well as the politics of allying yourself with people. Have yet to find an MMO aside from L2 that captures that feeling and particular playstyle.
>>345367609
which game is that from Anon?
>>345379063
Put the massively and multiplayer together. If they can't combine then its not an MMO its just a multiplayer game.
>>345378794
Nothing inherently wrong with using > it's just that a lot of people who browse this site start using it everywhere and all the time. As in they can't carry a conversation without spamming >
Like they seriously cannot formulate coherent sentences without spamming > over and fucking over.
I might be a bit uptight regarding it, but it kinda irks me when people use > outside of 4chan, because 90% of the time it means that they're 15-year olds who discovered 4chan last month.
>>345378581
I am already knee deep in funcoms dog shit account stuff
I have three account subbed right now on accident and cannot get a refund, this mostly happened because of funcoms account lockout system that is a prevention from brute forcing where if you get too many wrong passwords guessed you are locked for 24 hours, so I subbed what I thought was the "right" account. Only on the second and third did I find the ones that were right.
Only two of them have characters I have played on, one is completely empty and has about 28 days of time and is just going to rotanyone interested in playing?
>>345370241
>tfw Lions Arch only has 1 district now
>Kamadan around 2 or 3
Guild Wars 1 was my favorite game, even though the story was retarded and simple I loved it, the expansions and campaigns were amazing. I will never experience anything like GW in it's prime
>>345379123
Stop tanking then? It shouldn't be that complicated for tanks anyway when a single mistake is a full raid wipe.
>>345379063
the keywords you're forgetting are "persistent" which is mentioned multiple times
if we don't need persistent worlds to call MMOs what they are, then lets call Gary's Mod a MMO too. You can play with hundreds of people in one server, you can interact with people from all over the world, and it's server browser is lobby based like PSO2.
>>345379123
You seem like a knowledgeable faggot.
I just started playing FFXIV, I like tanking in most other MMOs I've played. But everytime I ask if I should Warrior or Paladin tank, the discussion turns into a shit throwing, dick measuring contest.
>>345354049
>Shadowfang keep
>Generic pirate stronghold
This is cata. New wow looks way better.
>>345378770
PSO2 can't even fit 1 thousand people into one lobby. The game can't even render more than 62 players in one scene.
>>345379217
Dude. The only thing that has happened over the years is a different types of "MMO" have started to appear and create a sub-genre in the MMO genre. That's it.
They're NOT called "Lobby Based Online" games. No, they're not LBOs.
It's like we have Street Fighter, a fighting game. And then we have this what the fuck is this shit called Pokken Tournament that also a fighting game for the same reason. Oh no, did I just re-trigger you with that last part?
>>345357706
But anon, there's nothing to do in that game and it's full of autistic weeblords. Have some self respect.
>>345379018
tfw wanted to play the chink version but its impossible to download
>>345379458
Not that guy but play Warrior. It does retarded amounts of damage and is actually broken even if the devs or players don't want to admit it. Play it and enjoy being the best at everything ever in the game; even soloing shit that you shouldn't be able to.
>>345379230
>tfw it took about the better part of a year to realize I could just put quotation marks around things instead of greentexting for quoting
I can't look back at my earlier years and not feel like a super retard
>>345379658
At the end of the day PSO is not a fucking MMO. Would you call Diablo 3 a MMO? That's like calling Quake 3 Arena a fucking MOBA.
>>345379642
>The game can't even render more than 62 players in one scene.
Based on PC hardware statistics, what person in their right mind would want that many players all with their own custom character being rendered on their screen. Ha, your fucking PC is going to melt.
What about dragons dogma online? Is it even good? I really enjoyed the dragons dogma game.
>>345365694
Are there even any good low rate interludes that stick around? Every one I've ever seen does down in flames in like 5 months time and re-opens, wiping all progress.
>>345380041
PS4 uses fucking APU laptop hardware and it handles 72 player frontlines matches in FFXIV no problem.
>>345380091
It's exactly what the title claims, for better or worse. You need a vpn and translation patch. Check the general on /vg/
>>345380091
does that even fucking exist yet?
>>345380285
I guess im gonna give it a go then, unless the transpation is shit.
>>345380091
>>345380285
>tfw too lazy to do all the shit you need to do to play foreign mmos
>>345367797
>look this game up
>"this looks promising"
>Brad McQuaid
>BRAD FUCKING MCQUAID
FUCK YOU MCQUAID! WE STILL REMEMBER VANGUARD: SAGA OF HEROES!
I still remember all the posts McQuaid made telling us how Vanguard was an MMO for "true gamers", and how EQ fans would fall in love again. Then one day, a few months before launch, he fired everyone in the studio, gave development of the game to SOE, and drove off in his Ferarri never to be seen from again.
FUCK YOU BRAD! I'M NOT FALLING FOR YOUR SHIT AGAIN! I HOPE YOU PULL A PAUL WALKER AND WRAP THAT FUCKING FERARRI AROUND A TREE YOU DUPLICITOUS PIECE OF SHIT! WE TRUSTED YOU MCQUAID!!!!
>>345379658
Pokken is an arena fighter or 3D fighter. Don't be retarded. PSO isn't an mmo. If you won't call Diablo an mmo or monster hunter an mmo then neither is pso
>>345380305
Came out in Japan forever ago
West release never ever
>>345379990
If we made a graph with two sides- one for everything in PSO2 that is NOT MMO and the other for everything is IS MMO- I can guarantee you that the IS side would easily win.
And I'm not going with my opinion. I'm just sticking with the definition. I don't care what fucking category a game is in, that shit has never mattered to me. It could be a RTS or a FPS and I wouldn't give a shit. Why does this even matter to you so much. Got damn you're bored and your boredum is pissing me off because I keep replying to this stupid shit.
PSO2 is in shit genre. That's it. No more. Leave it right there in Shit Genre.
I'm out.
>>345352563
>mfw landing full scale invasions with my legion through the rift portals and bodying Elyos shitters on my GLD
Did any MMO in recent time have that fucking awesome PvP like Aion did?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNdvtnetkIY
>>345361039
>FFXIV
I played from 2.0 to 2.4 in a top FC. The endgame raids were kind of fun, but buggy as hell and never lasted long. The wait in between raid tiers was UNBEARABLE. Not as long as some WOW raid tiers, but holy shit there is NOTHING to do in that game outside a raid. At least WOW had some interesting distractions like semi unbroken pvp and later, garrisons. All you got in XIV is some bullshit grindy quests for low quality raid loot or cosmetic weebo clothes to dress up your catgirl.
>But anon, heavansward is suggoi!!
No it's not. I came back and fucked around. It was the same shit, different paint. Anyone cool has already moved on to other games. Only the cringiest people play it now.
>>345380264
SO then I guess it was a development choice based on builds/testing and how accessible they want the game to be. That doesn't mean a PC can't handle more than 62 players. If that makes you upset you should contact Sega.
>>345377061
I use to play that game so much. Was in the clan Red Wing when it was huge. Game was super fun, then when they introduced the Pegasus and Cylon version it was awesome. Unfortunately shortly after that it started dying. How is it now?
>>345381084
not him, but there's a hard limit in PSO2's engine
If you have Arks Mod Tool and disable that limit some parts straight up not appear
>>345380682
There's nothing "massive" about PSO. You're forced to play with no more than 12 people in a multi-party instance. You can play with more people in a CoD lobby than PSO. When PSO includes a persistent zone where you can interact with hundreds of players (not not fucking lobbies, there's nothing persistent about them. there's literally no difference between lobby 1 and lobby 32 other than the players who inhabit them).
Use your god damn head.
>>345381049
Do you still need to buy a korean SSN to play this?
>>345381049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4mJ4vpAec&
might be fun, hearing like it/s a ton of runescape + moba skills
>>345381343
Probably. It's a shame because it looks fun.
>>345381056
>not NEET crafting
>not feasting or frontlining it up
>not helping scrubs in novice network
>being a shitty WoW raidlogger
you are cancer
>>345381049
Can you make your lolis just as cute as in Dark Arisen?
If the answer is yes, then I'm downloading it tonight.
>>345381343
last I checked the japanese version didn't need anything other than an account and a vpn
>>345379685
Well, I'll stop my Glad then, hes at 25.
Also, how do I get more Ventures to level up my waifu, I mean retainer.
>>345381647
You need to level your gladiator to level 34 for awareness and provoke anyway. You might as well continue to that point then switch.
