Mad at the Vikings sub-edition
>BUF:Contract-year CB Gilmore to skip Bills OTAs
>FA:Manziel slugs man, kicked out of Vegas club
>SEA:Sherman not convinced Marshawn Lynch is done
>JAC:Jalen Ramsey signs rookie deal with Jaguars
MIA:Ajayi has 'separated' from Dolphins other RBs
FA:Pats show 'preliminary' interest in A. Foster
CHI:John Fox suggests he'll use 'hot hand' at RB
FA:Saints sign Barth to compete with Forbath
>JAC:Jalen Ramsey suffers 'small meniscus tear'
>ATL:Vic Beasley moving to strong-side linebacker
>FA:RapSheet: Fitz, Jets want deal prior to OTAs
>CLE:RG3 approaching offseason as if he is starter
>LAR:Rams take 1-year flier on DT Dominique Easley
>IND:Moncrief recovering from turf toe operation
>SD:Chargers claim Zach Mettenberger off waivers
Dolphins
naners
cap'n chen!
>my face when "people" actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the NFL will miss the AFC Championship Game this upcoming season
>Alex Smith (objectively and statistically a top 10 QB it isn't even debatable)
>Travis Kelce (a top 3 TE he will put up 1,000+YDs/7+TDs)
>James O'Shaughnessy (literally the next Great White Hope™ A R Y A N reciever)
>Mitch Mathews (KC's Jeff Janis of 2016-2017)
>Jamaal Charles (top 3 RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike last year when he tore his ACL early in the season, he will put up 1,000+YDs/8+TDs)
>Jeremy Maclin (top 15 WR, 1,000+YDs/5+TDs)
>Chris Conley (KC's new elite #2 white person trapped in a black's body WR who will put up 500+YDs/5+TDs)
>Anthony Sherman (best FB in NFL)
>Top 3 secondary in the AFC
>Top 3 LB corp
>Top 3 D-Line
>Top 3 O-Line consisting of:
>LT: Eric "MayMay Watt cucked by moi" Fisher
>LG: Laurent "I'm literally a fucking doctor too" Duvernay-Tardiff
>C: Mitch ">tfw T-Rex mode, but still the GOAT rookie Center" Morse
>RG: Parker "I kill DTs for breakfast" Ehinger
>RT: Mitchell "Von Miller is a literal cückbitch, step to me again you fucking little thug bitch lmao" Schwartz
Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Chiefs are missing the playoffs this season
The Kansas City Chiefs' AFCDG-win drought ends in 2016-2017
You can't prove me wrong
Cap it
Go Gronks
>>67795347
No one cares about Detroit
>>67795384
I didn't know you name was No one
>I always Hold The Door for ladies
>>67795402
It's not but i once knew a guy named Nao Chue
>>67795413
Why would you post this
>>67795444
He died for your sins
>he will never hold the door for you
Why live bros?
How long before Manziel is kill /nfl/? Or at least until his tomfoolery stops
>>67795649
He's the next Ryan Leaf. Only difference is the Browns aren't getting anything of value out of the mess like the Chargers got LT.
>Nick Menza died
Fuck
I'm just going to sleep
>>67795696
Seriously? Fuck m8.
>>67795696
You spelled Hodor wrong
>it's a tripfag circle jerk thread
No thanks
Hodor or The Iron Giant dying, whats sadder?
>>67795817
This isn't even close to a TFCJ, newfag.
>>67795413
Old Bay continues to prove he's the cancer of the board.
>>67795347
>Implying that was impressive
Trent Richhardson could prolly make that run against the saints D too
>>67795891
Just filter the dumb prick,and anyone else that doesn't talk /nfl/. Yuro, cankeks, and aussies too
>>67796184
NAh he'd still miss that hole.
Just made this meme.
>>67796246
Solid kek
>>67796246
lol
career passer rating, incl. playoffs
Aaron Rodgers, 103.5
Russell Wilson, 100.6
Tony Romo, 96.9
Drew Brees, 96.1
Tom Brady, 95.3
Tyrod Taylor, 95.0
Philip Rivers, 94.9
Ben Roethlisberger, 93.1
Marcus Mariota, 91.5
Kirk Cousins, 90.8
Matt Ryan, 90.6
Robert Griffin, 90.4
Colin Kaepernick, 88.3
Cam Newton, 87.9
Nick Foles, 87.7
Carson Palmer, 87.6
Teddy Bridgewater, 87.0
Andy Dalton, 86.6
Brock Osweiler, 86.1
Jay Cutler, 86.0
Matthew Stafford, 85.9
Alex Smith, 85.3
Ryan Tannehill, 85.2
Joe Flacco, 85.1
Jameis Winston, 84.2
Eli Manning, 83.8
Derek Carr, 83.7
Andrew Luck, 83.4
Sam Bradford, 81.0
Ryan Fitzpatrick, 80.8
Blake Bortles, 80.0
Mark Sanchez, 75.6
>>67796414
>one and a half dogshit seasons
>still a better passer than cam newton
>>67796441
and still...gets benched for Gaine Blabbert
>>67796414
>Rodgers and Wilson at the top
>tfw they'd both be much higher without that 2014 NFCCG shitshow
>>67796452
>coach fired and replaced with a stooge
>half the team follows him out
nigga is 00s smeth all over again, gab will be the first of the non-smeth series of "backups"
>>67795828
I'm not dead.
>They actually killed Hodor.
>>67796206
>I take /nfl/ seriously
>>67795345
>J Charles
>healthy
This is why no one takes queef fans seriously.
>>67795345
>btw guys i'm a queefs fan XDDD
>pay attention to meeee
Fuck off.
Fuck. Off.
We seriously do not care. We don't care about your shit team, we don't care about your piece of shit fanbase, we don't care about your city. One thing we certainly don't care about is your fucking stale memes. Jesus Christ, why do queefs fans even post? Do you fucks ever benefit, inform, arouse concern in ANYONE on this board? No. You posted this because you are solipsistic memeing pieces of shit who think they matter because people keep replying to your stupid copypastas and memes. I can hear you just now, you're thinking "xD but le smeth is elit-" SHUT THE FUCK UP. I don't care about your fucking QB either. This is a thread where you post shitty-made memes of your pathetic team for validation, hell it could be /s4s/ for all that matters - you are all just cancerous attention whores. The idiots on this board who continue to reply to your shitposts have convinced you that you have any kind of worth, guess what: you fucking don't. You're valued for nothing. Why you think posting the same fucking shit in every god damn /nfl/ thread is funny is fucking beyond me.
Words cannot describe the utter amount of hatred I have for you classless pieces of human garbage. I cannot stand your vapid fanbase, the way you constantly scream during a fucking game. You are literal scum who lives for nothing more than getting validation from random autists on the internet i.e. us, and you think we're going to tolerate you parading your fucking boring memes on our board? Think again, fuckface. Fans like you are the most boring people any NFL fan could ever meet, because you do nothing but spam the same fucking memes andpastas or SOME OTHER SHIT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT. You have the audacity to expect us to care when you never provide any interesting discourse or say something interesting, you literally just consume and regurgitate SHIT. We whole heartedly despise you, and you should never forget that.
Paxton please stop dabbing
I want you to be good
I want to like you
I don't want to be reminded of Cam Newton every time you make a play or do anything with the media
The Broncos are going 5-11 and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
pre season starts when
>>67799298
not soon enough
kek baltimurder is about to burn to the ground again
>>67798842
He's from Memphis. Where white people actually WANT to be niggers. So good luck with that
How many games will he last this season?
I wish we all can just get along and not start a war of some sorts.
>>67798435
>fuckface
BOLD BRAVE BERRY up in this bitch, the fuck you gon' do about it bitch boy? I mean, other than lose and look like a pussy once the Chiefs step on to the field, I'm talking god damn supreme kings of the god damn gridiron, I'm talking le Smith is ELITE! I'll have you know I arouse much concern from EVERYONE when they know if they lose to the Chiefs it's game over for their 4chan social status, yours included mr I'm on my phone, better tell everyone.
You're valued for nothing, word cannot describe the amount of value you have unless that word was nothing. Mr oh look at me, I'm a trip and complain about getting validation from radom autists on the internet i.e. you.
CHIEFS FOR THE OWL
RED AND YELLOW RED AND YELLOW RED AND YELLOW
ALEX SMITH DREAM TEAM SUPREME
JAMAAL CHARLES IS A FUCKING MONSTER MASH
TRAVIS KELCE WILL LITERALLY DANKY KANG YOUR ASS OUT OF THE GAME
Chiefs fans. Denver has dominated for half a decade, and will continue to dominate this decade. Fuck off with your game managing qb that eeks out 9-10 wins a season on shit teams, while Denver continues to win the division every fucking year. Your saltyness is amazing rhat you feel the need to spam outdated and shitty memes every year till you realize your team sucks. Commit suicide to better the general population.
>>67795276
Barr and Joseph aren't Elite relax but I do see them having a top 10 defense
>>67795347
Definitely needs to tune up his technique did you see how he almost lost balance just by running full sprint?
Bold Predictions
>Ezek Elliot will break TD records and Cowboys will still miss the playoffs
>Both Jaguars and Raiders make playoffs but get BTFO first round
>Panthers go 8-8 and still make the playoffs
>Redskins sweep Giants and win first round in the playoffs getting BTFO second round
>Tom Brady serves full suspension
>>67799895
all they broncos bandwagoners jumped ship when peyton left the team empty, you're late bruh
>>67796414
Tony Romo has played most of his career with a shit team around him and he still manages to be ELITE
>>67800189
>Tony Romo hasn't played most of his career
All memeing aside
who the fuck is going to be able to compete with Green Bays offense next year?
>>67800241
Probably the Saints, who've had a better offense all these years anyway. Faggot.
>>67800241
Vikings don't look terrible.
I don't think they're taking the title from GB, but I could see 'em fitting in the wild card spot for sure.
>>67800252
>>67800252
>implying racking up stats in the fourth quarter = dominant offense
OK kiddo
>>67800266
>here are some bullshit excuses for the good point you made
Thank you.
>>67800283
it's a good thing we won't actually have to compete because, you know, the aints are half a team with an aging QB...
>>67799953
In this case Bold = retarded
LESS THAN 10 WEEKS LADS
>>67799563
>50 shades of Freddie Gray
Bring it on, been dying to try out my Glock in a real life situation
>>67800241
Steelers.
>>67799563
Learn your history fucktard, Baltimore never burned that was D.C.
>>67800241
Raiders
>top 3 OL
>good QB who's young and rapidly progressing
>two high quality WRs, decent depth
>decent RB
>>67800642
>top 3 OL
They're not THAT good.
>>67798435
>be tripfag
>write novel bitching about people attention whoring
Oh the ironing, it's pottery
>>67800642
Osemele is gonna flop
>>67800522
lmao what did they spray him with and I think he started crying right before he got tackled
>>67800761
Maced his nigger ass
>>67800731
Who the fuck are you? I've been an Astros season ticket holder for 15 years. Longer than you've been alive, kid. Too bad my season tickets are worth about 6 jar of pickles because the Astros fucking blow it every year. I know your type. You're a Houstonian who just oh so loves baseball season, right? You go to the game, probably with your bf, snap some pictures, take some selfies, eat a hot dog, and just LOVE watching the Astros lose. Guess what, I FUCKING DON'T. Take your fake ass back to The Woodlands bitch. I speak nothing but the truth. This team is filled with perennial failures, beaners, white trash with disgusting beards, and worst of all, accountants and gardeners who held Jim Crane at knifepoint and demanded jerseys and are now hoodwinking an entire city.
>>67800696
They're pretty goddamn good
>>67800773
>>67800749
>>67800522
kek how much of a NEET are you why do you post all the time with such meme replies
>>67795345
Alex Smith is your qb. You will never win shit. Sorry, anon.
>>67800912
thats average as fuck OL dude
>>67800876
>I know, more pasta!
>That'll show em
>>67800912
>Nobody elite or great
Really good but you're prone to have a bad game or two from some of them if you don't have anyone dominant at LT or LG
>>67800973
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I am the the top member in the Astros Fan Club, and I’ve been involved in numerous cheer rallies on Hamilton Street, and I have started over 300 confirmed Waves. I am trained in banter warfare and I’m the top heckler in the entire 210 section. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of scouts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can heckle you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my foam finger. Not only am I extensively trained in Sabermetrics, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Houston Astros Scouting Database and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>67800912
Penn is old as dirt, Osemele will bust like all Ravens who leave, Hudson is decent, Jackson is fat, and Howard is utter shit
>>67801006
>Jackson is fat
lol, dude is their best OL and one of the most underrated players in the League.
>brian hartline released
F
>>67801024
That may be, but he is an amorphous blob of a human being
>>67801055
Not any moreso than lots of other guys in the League...
>>67801039
Perfect pickup for the pats
>>67801039
I'd like for him to come back to Miami, but he doesn't really have a place on the team at this point.
F
>>67801172
No, come to Vikings plz
>>67801172
>>67801238
>>67801280
>his team isn't stacked at receiver
>>67801172
Uh.... no?
>>67799970
Except I've lived in Colorado all my life? Success breeds jealousy
>>67801336
>Cruz
>Rookie
>>67795696
Shit, that sucks. He was my second favorite Megadeth drummer behind based Gar.
>>67801336
Your WR corp is Odell and the literally who's
Cruz is dead, and does not count
>>67801394
>>67801372
>implying Eli doesn't throw 40 TDs this year
>>67801422
6 of those will be pick-six TDs.
>>67799714
He doesn't make it through the first game. Ezekiel Elliot runs into him and Romo falls underneath a toppling guard. The guard crushes Romos rib and it punctures a lung. Elliott tears his ACL on this play and never has a chance to become good, forcing Jerry and fans to collectively burn all 19 million croptop jerseys they made
>>67801006
Reminder to everyone that if you haven't filtered all tripfags yet at least do yourself a favor by filtering old gay
>>67801527
says a canadian that doesn't even half him filtered
>>67801552
Filtering doesn't make his posts magically disappear. They just automatically hide them. He can still unhide and read his bullshit.
>>67801527
What are you doing here Canadian?
You've got your own football
We en banc now
>>67801573
>filters posts
>reads them anyway
shiggydiggy
Will the Patriots pick him up?
>>67801628
Literally who?
>>67801628
>just wants to ride TB12's dick to get a free ring and notability and entrance to HoF without himself being notable
>>67801358
1 superbowl in like 17 years and you're all acting like the Broncos have been Steelers or Patriots tier consistent, lmao
1. Steelers
2. Packers
3. Cardinals
4. Giants
5. Jaguars
6. Cowboys
7. Raiders
8. Redskins
9. Seahawks
10. Bengals
>>67801901
1. Steelers
2. Packers
3. Giants
4. Raiders
5. Bengals
6. Cardinals
7. Seahawks
8. Cowboys
9. Jaguars
10. Redskins
>>67795345
>my face when "people" actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the NFL will miss the AFC Championship Game this upcoming season
If you are gonna use meme magic docit good and say win the Owl not play in the AFCCG you dingus
>>67801994
>No Martavis Bryant
I like Sammy Coates a lot but losing Bryant for a full year is a big hit for the stillers
What was:
-The best regular-season game of last season?
-The best post-season game of last season [excluding the Owl]?
>>67801901
>>67801994
>>67802013
Your probably right. But Antonio Brown has the tools to succeed on his own well enough.
Same with OBJ, his other receivers are garbage. In retrospect if I were including elite WR without their WR2 counterparts Falcons would be where the Giants are, since Julio is a whole tier above OBJ. Redskins would be off the board.
8. Giants
9. Cowboys
10. Jaguars
>>67802023
1. Jamaal Charles Fumble Game
2. Wilson vs Big Ben Shootout
3. Panthers vs Saints/Giants
4. Eagles cucking the Patriots
5. Giants vs Patriots
>>67802073
I like the jags a lot more than most teams
Allen Robinson is a top 7 wr and can easily be top 5 this year and hurns is a great #2
>>67802023
I liked the shitshow that was the browns-ravens game in the regular season, and the 9ers Vikings spaghetti fest was fun too
Post season the packers cardinals game was fun and filled with mememes
>>67801389
Just blast some Megadeth in his tribute. And yeah Gar was based. Jazz drummers are literally the best type of drummers.
>>67802116
>Jamaal Charles Fumble
>atleast he held on to his helmet
>>67802023
For me, either the Colts vs Broncos or Panthers. Both of them were fun as fuck.
Post season: Packs vs Cards. Just great.
>>67802013
Markus Wheaton will still be one of the best #2 WRs in the league and Sammy Coates will pick up right where he left off last season and become great too
>>67802023
>best reg season game
Chiefs opener against Texans
>best post season game
Chiefs playoff opener against the Texans
>>67802220
>Sammy Coates will pick up right where he left off last season
>>67801848
They do have the 5th best win% in the League since realignment.
>>67802220
Wheaton is a middle of the road wr 2
He finished with fewer yards than Bryant despite having a 5 game head start on him
He finished with fewer yards than Reuben Randall and he is terrible
>>67802116
How the fuck is anyone gonna rate the cardinals packers game anything less than 1?
>>67802251
he did very well down the stretch including a pretty good game against Denver in the playoffs
>>67802023
>best regular season
Pats Broncos
>best post season
Bengals vs Steelers
>>67802248
>chefs fans are fucking retarded
>>67802371
>can't even spell Chiefs right
>thinks we're the retarded ones
>chefs lost 5 in a row
Thats a special kind of suck, I don't care if they won the rest of their games.
>>67802447
Riding a broken horse for 5 games will do that.
>>67801901
The Panthers are top 10 next year, maybe top 5
>>67802023
Pats Gnats
Bengals Steelers
the eagles right now are the
2011 seahawks ending their 7-9 season
2012
and
2013
are next
>>67802388
I seriously hope you're not serious. Im serious
>>67802717
LMAO
Will Keenan Allen be a top 5 receiver if he stays healthy?
>>67802782
No doubt.
>>67802758
>Im serious
srsly?
>>67802717
Holy fuck *laughing in tears emoji*
>>67802717
>>67802782
Not even top five in his division
He'd be below Cooper, Crabtree, Thomas, Sanders, and Maclin.
where will he eventually end up?
>>67802888
Green Bay
>>67802782
>Julio Jones
>Antonio Brown
>Dez Bryant
>Jordy Nelson
>Demaryius Thomas
>Odell Beckham Jr.
>DeAndre Hopkins
>Brandon Marshall
>Allen Robinson
>>67802717
>this all happens
>their "2014" season arrives
>mfw they choke to the Pats in the owl AGAIN
Get hype
>>67801628
that's embarrassing as fuck desu
>>67798842
Don't know why, but to me Paxton looks like a try-hard stoner that acts like Shaggy from Scooby Doo whenever he gets high.
>>67802912
>>67802863
>7.5 games
>67 catches
>725 yards
>4 TDs
He's better than Dez, DT, Robinson and Nelson in my opinion.
the Browns are winning the AFCN
not only will Coleman be the next Antonia Brown but Brown himself will finely get his down year
>>67802863
>Maclin
>Crabtree
>Sanders
>Thomas
Only one close to KA13's level is cooper
casual detected
>>67803080
i wouldn't mind
thats 1 owl in the books
i don't even hate the pats
the better team won that owl
>>67803178
Nobody shares that opinion
>>67803216
Woah, a reasonable Eagles fan
How's it going buddy?
>>67803198
>Browns are winning the AFCN
>>67803314
were here buddy, just not a lot of news going on right now so no postings
>>67803314
p. good senpai
just got a new job that pays way better than what i have been getting, and college semester is done.
can't wait till pre season so i can see the new coaches and schemes in action.
was so tired seeing 9 consecutive chip kelly offensive drives end in punts every single game
i'm slightly optimistic about doug Peterson, mostly because of Jim Schwartz and the defense; all we really need is 1 cornerback, safeties are solid, Dline is basically perfect with great/elite starters and great depth, linebackers are at least serviceable if they don't deliver on their promises of greatness.
>>67803405
True
So what's really going to down with Bradford? Any guesses?
>>67795365
i tried his energy drink. bretty gud
>>67803470
ever since getting wentz bradford is realizing he is used goods like an ageing roastie and is now trying to get the most he can in terms of salary. He has acceptied that he won't starting for any quality teams at least not for the money he is now requesting. and will never be a franchise qb / even win a playoff game
The eagles obviously just want to start him and sit Wentz like Aaron Rodgers and ease him into the NFL
Bradford wants more money and less exploding knees
>Dolphins throwback uniforms will appear in two games this season
YACHTZEE
Holy FUCK i cannot wait for the cowboys to steamroll over the whole division this season
>>67800876
Don't forget, they forced the team to move to the AL.
>>67803550
I think it's best for Wentz to sit and learn, and not get btfo like some other qbs of the past.
>>67803550
Not the guy you replied to, but...
Yeah, I assumed Bradford knew he wasn't really going to amount to much, so he just wanted to maximize his salary for as long as possible.
If I were him, and that didn't work out, I'd just hire a good FA and start investing in shit, and of course making sure those investments are diversified.
>>67803563
How Many Times Do We Have To Teach You This Lesson, Old Man?
>>67803563
you may as well already list Elliott as elite desu
>>67803563
Ive said it before. as long a Jerry is making the calls the Cowboys will never win a superbowl. Im standing by that
>>67803609
i love the symmetry and context of this pic
>dat filename
>>67801527
>he filters posts
thats pretty rreddit of you
>>67800522
>this webm
Are you posting how the Ravens season will go next year?
>ESPN
>>67803710
>8-8
I'll take it.
>>67803718
>chargers
>fans
kek
>>67801901
>>67801994
How do you morons have the Stoolers at 1? All they have is Antonio Bryant, they literally no one else
>>67802220
>>67802332
Sammie Coates has 3 career catches, and that's only if you include the playoffs
>>67803733
shut up nigger
>>67801901
>>67801994
>Packers #2 with Nelson
>Packers #32 without Nelson
>People still don't think Nelson is a top 5 WR
>>67803734
>two fat fans
>rest are relatively slim
I'm pretty sure Baltimore has more fatter fans with all the crab cakes laying around as well as the obese niggers.
>>67803815
How are your Bucs going to do this year? Will Winston go super sayian on the NFCS?
>>67795276
Make me leave, fatso.
>>67803710
Espn hack writers. Here's the difference. Denver's offense will improve more than the defense will fall. Which means the team will probably be about the same next year.
>>67803830
>Baltimore has more fatter fans with all the crab cakes laying around as well
Yeah, because crab cakes are unhealthy... meanwhile what passes for fine dining is Shittsburgh is putting french fries on a mayo slathered sandwich
>>67803851
My Bucs? I don't get it. Bucs will only win 5-7 games this season though. Tough schedule. Next year though if they can make some good moves in free agency and the draft then a wildcard isn't out of the question.
>>67803830
>realatively slim
Only by Pittsburgh standards
>>67803862
>denver retards
lmao, win one superbowl and they think they're the next dynasty.
>>67803862
>Denver's offense will improve
>Buttfumble
Doubt...
>>67803902
>is Shittsburgh
Whoa there buddy, don't type out things too fast with your fatty fingers :)
>>67803937
did you miss them drafting the next GOAT in Paxton Lynch?
>>67803862
How exactly did their offense improve? They lost a pro bowl guard and two solid veteran TEs while only acquiring Okung. The QB situation didn't change much, Lynch and Sanchez aren't better than Brock.
>>67803563
>mfw realizing how good Cowboys OL vs. Giants DL should be this year
>mfw we get to see it twice
>>67802587
shhhhhhh
under-the-radar is best radar
>>67803957
>Paxton Lynch
For some reason his name sounds very Tim Tebow-ish, and we all know what happened to Tim Tebow,
Will he ever play again guys or did Kenny Chesney destroy his career?
>>67803978
"white people baka" was my first thought, even before than I saw the filename kek
>>67803963
They probably won't have a fossil throwing 17 picks in 9 weeks
>>67803994
>and we all know what happened to Tebow
you mean the guy who was on his way to becoming a top QB and then was black listed from the league due to his faith?
>>67804009
Perfect pickup for the pats
>>67804045
rip paxton
>>67804051
He's not a midget though
>>67804045
>black listed due to his faith
This was disproved by Chip "Pull the Trigger on Every Nigger" Kelly last year.
>>67804045
>this stale meme again
>>67804045
What a travesty.
>>67804045
Tebow is a filthy heathen Protestant, he deserves his black list and place by Satan's side
>>67802116
>2. Wilson vs Big Ben Shootout
just watched the highlights for that game and holee fuck it is crazy, one of the best shootouts in recent memory
>>67801901
>Packers #2
>Without Jordy, they're literal shit
I'm a Puckers fan but this is just not true.
>>67798842
>I don't want to be reminded of Cam Newton
then you might as well give up on /NFL/ cause he's going to be around for a while.
>>67804138
Tebow had great heart, but his talent is ruined by his throwing mechanic. He always cocks the ball from too low a stance, giving his throw away to DBs who can then have an easy time picking him off.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/23/group-led-by-ronnie-lott-rodney-peete-hopes-to-develop-new-oakland-stadium
>According to Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross of the San Francisco Chronicle, former NFL players Ronnie Lott and Rodney Peete are leading a group of investors who hope to develop the 120 acres where the Coliseum is currently situated. (The development would include a new stadium, obviously.)
>Lott and Peete reportedly have met in recent weeks with team executives and city officials regarding the proposal.
>The group of predominantly African-American investors also includes Egbert Perry, the chairman of the board at Fannie Mae and the CEO of Integral, a real estate and investment firm that ranks among the largest African-American owned businesses in the United States. Per the report, the group presumably would want to purchase a piece of the team, if a stadium deal can be hammered out.
Based Lott trying to save the Raiders from themselves
>>67804009
He dislikes blacks though
>More manufactured deflategate offseason drama
pls no
>>67804401
pls just NFL admit you fucked up and Brady gets off free, that's all you deserve.
>>67803621
Jerry hasnt been making the calls for the last 3-4 years, Based Stephen has.
>>67795473
>Friend leaves a fb groupchat due to too many GoT spoilers
>I comment, 'Don't hold the door on your way out.'
>>67803855
Heres your (You). Beats a turnip, huh commie?
>>67796246
well memed, 10/10
>>67804401
How the heck is a historic franchise like the Raiders still sharing a stadium with a Baseball team?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3X4wyuQ7E
Thinking of picking the Jets as my team, a mistake or am I good?
>>67804705
If they find a good QB, they'd be good, if not, they're gonna be meh, and constantly btfo by the pats for a while longer.
>>67804731
Pats will only be good for another 3 years tops, when Bill and Brady leave they will go back to being irrelevant.
No news is good news
>76 days till hall of fame game
New York / New Jersey
Authentic Italian
New Haven
Detroit
Hawaiian
frozen
"""""""""shitcago"""""""""
>>67803957
>Paxton Lynch
>Good let alone GOAT
Comes up small in the biggest of games. Did you not see his game against Auburn? Outside of ole miss, Paxton faced literal who's. He'll be the next Matt Moore.
>>67803978
>Lynch confirmed the white Cam Newton
Will the NFL ever recover after his reign of dominance?
>>67801527
>getting torched by a Canadian
Will Old Bay ever recover?
> The route ability of OBJ
> The speed ability of TY
> The catching ability of AB
> The power ability of Dez
> The elusive ability of Edelman
Who has all those abilities?
>>67805076
nobody
>>67805076
Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson
>>67805076
Terrell Owens
>>67804303
>Based Lott trying to save the Raiders from themselves
True that.
>>67805076
Well there was this Jerry Rice guy...
>>67805076
Julio
Got bored and made a new meme.
>>67805076
I think you got AB and OBJ mixed up
anyways jerry rice is as close to perfect as possible
>>67805076
Moss had four out of the five and rice had four out of the five. Honestly no one else comes close
>>67805295
TO actually had all of those.
>>67805320
TO didn't have great hands
>>67805354
Nope.
Literally the only thing TO lacked was maturity, if he had that he would be better than Jerry Rice.
>>67805401
Nah. He was a bobbler on a lot of passes.
>>67804784
Winter is coming...
>>67805200
the thing that was scary about Rice was his work rate. he took being a professional very seriously and did everything he could to be the best he could be. you might've heard some stories about his runs on "the hill" but it went way beyond that. yeah he had natural talent, but just on that alone Randy Moss was more electric. Rice though was just hands down the best, and to be the best you needed more than just talent.
>Eli Apples mom joining Countdown
>E!SPN
>>67805549
She is pretty based though
>>67805549
She's gotta keep telling those thirsty girls they need Jesus
Post Franchise LTs
>>67803957
>implying Lynch won't get David Carr'd to death
>>67795345
>>67798435
>>67799815
Is this a samefag copypasta war?
>>67800205
That shit pisses me off every time. Fuck Michael Boley
each year Julio Jones has put up more yards per game than Browns corresponding year (ie 1st year, 2nd year etc) all while his QB has put up ratings a noticeable notch bellow Bens
Julio > Brown
Did Art Modell deserve the hate he got after moving the Browns to Baltimore?
r8 my r8ing
>>67806440
retry lie senpai
>>67801628
Just read an article about this guy.
I really hope they give him a shot, he seems like a great guy, and definitely devoted to the sport.
>>67806440
>Cutler not elite
>>67805076
Forgot agility of Fitzgerald
>>67796246
>>67805246
https://niceme.me/
>>67795413
I hold the door for everyone faggot.
>Baltimore """""manners"""""
>>67805638
lol leave Derek Carr to me
Did you guys know that Eric Kramer (the only Lions QB to have a playoff win in the super bowl era) tried killing himself awhile ago? Bullet went through his cheek, through half his sinuses and exited the top of his head. Pretty crazy. Detroit Free Press just wrote a great and comfy piece on it but it's a little long. He was a terrible player but he really made the Cowboys secondary his bitch in that game, without him the Lions could be 0-13 in the playoffs since 1957.
>inb4 suicide Detroit Lions jokes
>>67807065
*Erik
>>67807065
I hope jason hanson doesn't have to end up going through the same thing.
Alright, started working on my All-Division teams.
NFC East
Receivers: Dez Bryant, DeSean Jackson, Odell Beckham
Y/H: Jordan Reed, Brent Celek
OL: Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, Zack Martin, Justin Pugh, Travis Frederick
Backfield: Tony Romo, Ezekiel Elliott
DL: Olivier Vernon, Damon Harrison, Chris Baker, Fletcher Cox
LB: Ryan Kerrigan, Rolando McClain, Sean Lee
DB: Bashaud Breeland, Josh Norman, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Orlando Scandrick, Malcolm Jenkins
K/P: Dan Bailey, Brad Wing
KR/PR: Dwayne Harris, Darren Sproles
>>67803763
Get swept
>>67807093
Seeing Jason Hanson retire was almost as sad as seeing Calvin retire. He managed to have played with both Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders, gave us 21 years and still could only get one playoff win. Kicking situation was real bad after he left but Im glad the Lions were able to snag Matt Prater. Prater has got to have one of the most powerful legs in the league.
>>67807065
>Lions qbs cant even kill themselves right
You can't make this shit up.
>>67804303
Thank you based lott
>>67807218
>gave us 21 years and still could only get one playoff win
what? I thought he played in several but didn't get any wins.
>>67807224
Y...youre mean...
>>67807292
Ah you know what, he was drafted the very year after the playoff win. Fuckin Loins lol.
>>67807300
Remember when Stafford went full bitch mode against the Vikings last year? Flopping and putting on his Cutler face.
>>67807137
AFC East
>Brady
>McCoy/Williams
>Marshall/Decker/Edelman
>Gronkowski/Bennett
>Glenn/Incognito/Mangold/Jackson?/Vollmer
>Wake/Suh/Dareus/Wilkerson
>Collins/Hightower/Davis?
>Jones/Chung
>Revis/Butler
>>67807137
zach ertz>brent celek
lane johnson>justin pugh
alfred morris>an unproven rookie
ryan kerrigan is fucking awful
also you put 3 tackles and 1 guard, just switch pugh for collins
>>67807385
I seem to remember the Vikings' defense deciding to become a bunch of niggers, the Lions Oline going full retard and the refs allowing blatant late hits every play. I guess we have a different opinion of what happened. Do you remember the year prior when the Lions cleanly and fairly raped Bridgewater?
>>67807511
Can you really pull that card after having Suh on >your team?
>>67807511
>blatant late hits
m8, it was clean
>Do you remember the year prior
I do, I don't care though.
>>67807137
>1 safety
nice going retard
>>67807548
Well both teams are different after the off-season. The second time the Lions played the Vikings it was a lot closer. I feel like a split is on the way next season. Lions really beefed up their Oline and the Vikings have yet to face the madman
>>67807461
Celek is the H, Ertz fits better as a Y. Justin Pugh and Lane Johnson don't play the same position, but Pugh had a much better year last year. Doesn't really matter who the Cowboys TB is, in all honesty. Kerrigan is pretty good, not elite, but certainly not awful. And I put 2 tackles, 2 guards, and a center.
>>67807592
>not running a meme defense
>>67807683
>meme defense without 4 safeties
L2meme boi
>>67807592
>putting a terrible NFCE safety on the field over a decent corner
Nice going, retard. Who would you pick, DeAngelo Hall? Fucking lol.
>Pre-Cooter Lions
>>67807625
Lions roster is not impressive, Your Coach is a meme and the players don't give a shit. They just want to get traded.
>>67807683
>running a meme defense
>>67807712
>saints fan talking ANY shit about defenses
your team broke a record for most passing TDs given up last year, unironically end your life
>>67807720
>>67807760
>no counter-argument
>"y-your team s-sucks!"
No fucking shit, didn't realize that was your age in your trip.
>>67807065
Even his suicide attempt mirror the lions
>didn't reach their ultimate goal
>>67807760
Also,
>Jairus "$54 MILLION" Byrd and Kenny fucking Vaccaro would unironically be in the running for All-Division in the NFCE
kill YOURself my man
>>67807804
>hehe, he has no counter-argument to "YOUR DIVISION IS SHIT LOL"
wew
i'd tell you to put byron jones or jalen mills as the safety, but i don't actually care that much
>>67807834
learn to put your thoughts in one post you idiot
and no they wouldn't lol, get a brain moran
>QB
Cowboys > Giants > Redskins > Eagles
>RB
Cowboys > Redskins > Eagles > Giants
>WR
Giants = Cowboys > Redskins > Eagles
>OL
Cowboys > Eagles > Redskins > Giants
>DT/DE
Eagles > Cowboys > Giants > Redskins
>LB
Eagles > Cowboys > Giants > Redskins
>CB
Cowboys > Eagles > Redskins > Giants
>S
Eagles > Cowboys > Giants > Redskins
>ST
Eagles > Redskins > Cowboys > Giants
>>67807966
actually im going to switch Giants LBs woth Cowboys so its
Eagles > Giants > Cowboys > Redskins
>>67807966
pretty fair imo
>>67807966
the giants may have overtaken us by drafting paul perkins imo
otherwise i agree
>>67808037
>>67808048
Ha! it was me all along! you agreed with meeeeee fufufufu
>>67808074
i already agree with you a lot though
>>67808093
oh hey you're alive
NOOOOO
NO
>>67807862
>hehe, he has no counter-argument to "YOUR DIVISION IS SHIT LOL"
If I'm wrong, then go ahead and list off some of the good safeties in the NFCE for me.
>and no they wouldn't lol, get a brain moran
They outplayed every returning NFCE safety last year besides Jenkins. On their way to being part of one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
>moran
Fucking lol.
>>67807966
>DL
>Giants not #1
m8...
>>67807625
>>67808048
Paul Perkins was my draftu, now hes probably not even going to play after being buried in the NYG RB depth
>>67807966
>redskins 3rd or 4th in almost every category
>won division
Um I guess?
>>67808307
>2 teams without a starting QB last year
>>67808117
physically at least yeah
>>67808215
wow that took you a while
>If I'm wrong, then go ahead and list off some of the good safeties in the NFCE for me.
it's not about that you retard, it's about filling out a defense correctly
a defense with one safety is objectively retarded, which you don't seem to get, maybe because the tumor pressing on your frontal lobe is making you think the giants have the best d-line in the NFCE
>defending a free safety with 3 passes defended all year in one of the most heavily targeted defenses of all time
m8
>>67808122
>>67808304
Any Sooners you're homo for in the next draft
>>67808433
Faggot
>>67808351
>it's not about that you retard, it's about filling out a defense correctly
>a defense with one safety is objectively retarded, which you don't seem to get, maybe because the tumor pressing on your frontal lobe is making you think the giants have the best d-line in the NFCE
Nigger, there are 3 players there who have played safety at some point in their careers, not hard to spot if you've been following football for longer than 4 months. All of them are better options than the rest of the abortions in that division. (I'll even give you that Byron Jones isn't terrible, but the fact that he's in the discussion for All-Division illustrates my fucking point.)
>>67808338
you mean 1?
>>67808351
>defending a free safety with 3 passes defended all year in one of the most heavily targeted defenses of all time
>openly mocked him
>"defending him"
WEW
Just pointing out that he even HE faired better than the collective flaming dumpster full of aborted fetuses that were the NFCE safeties outside of Philly last year.
>>67808854
>norman
currently and mainly a cornerback
>breeland
currently and mainly a cornerback
>scandrick
currently and mainly a cornerback
>drc
currently and mainly a cornerback
julian edelman has played cornerback in his career, does that mean he counts as a CB for the AFCE all-division team? just stop damage controlling for one second pls
byron jones is the choice because he PLAYS SAFETY, and a 4 CB / 1 S defense is dumb as fuck
also why does it take you like 15 minutes to type <200 words? do you have a special keyboard?
>>67805504
leave brady to me
>>67807966
Redskins' WR are equal with eagles and cowboys
Skins LBs are better than Giants'
Who the fuck do the cowboys have at CB?
Redskins have best TE in the division
Byron Jones is infact going to be Free Safety for the Cowboys in OTAs training camp and the season
>>67809035
>Redskins WRs are equal with Cowboys and Eagles
that doesnt make sense because Eagles WRs are crap and other than Dez the Cowboys WRs are good.
Redskins are exactly where they need to be. There is however a big gap between Redskins and Eagles in the WR department
>>67808981
>currently and mainly a cornerback
>currently and mainly a cornerback
>currently and mainly a cornerback
>currently and mainly a cornerback
What did I JUST say, sweetheart? Backtrack any further and you'll be crawling into your mother's womb.
>julian edelman has played cornerback in his career, does that mean he counts as a CB for the AFCE all-division team?
If he had played better at CB than every other available option, would you pick the worse player?
>byron jones is the choice because he PLAYS SAFETY, and a 4 CB / 1 S defense is dumb as fuck
Jones played mostly CB last year, so according to you, he's off the board. Scandrick has played far more safety in his career than Jones. Ready to have a seat, yet?
>also why does it take you like 15 minutes to type <200 words? do you have a special keyboard?
Lol, because I have other shit to do with my time than stair at my monitor waiting for your next gem of a post.
>>67809253
I just got here but Jones played safety all year dude do you even watch Cowboys games. You might call it nickel corner but it was strong safety B same shit
>>67807137
Im a Cowboy fan but I'd trade McClain and Lee for Hicks and Kendricks any day
>>67809104
I meant equal to giants and cowboys
>>67809253
jones was the starter at free safety for most of the year (7 starts out of 11), but had to start at cornerback a lot when claiborne got injured
but yeah, keep being retarded
>i-i have things to do, that's why it takes me 10+ minutes to formulate an argument
top
kek
>tfw no EFLI during the offseason
>tfw no EFLI ever again
>>67809603
wait the indian football league got shut down? why?
>>67809341
He was mostly at CB until December. And nickel corner and strong safety are not at all the same, holy shit m8.
>>67809402
I was close to putting Kendricks.
>>67809655
it's not so much that it got shut down rather than they never managed to get it started again. all of last year their front page said "Season 2 November 2015" but then november came and went with the only noticeable changes on the site being a couple of holiday-related tweets. now it just says "season 2 begin soon..." and one of the planned 24 teams has been removed. so, it's pretty safe to say that the season 1 experiment was a failure in attracting enough financial interest to really get it moving right now. apparently they're focusing more at the collee intramural scene right now. whoop de fucking doo.
>>67809443
Nope, he played corner for half the season, first off the bench, then as a starter. He moved to safety later in the year, started 6 games there. But, yeah, keep being retarded.
>i-i hope he's intently watching his monitor, constantly refreshing, wouldn't w-want him to forget about me
Get a hobby, faggot.
How the fuck did the Vikings get the best receiver in the draft at 23rd overall?
>>67809981
That's easy, the first 22 teams didn't draft him stupid.
>>67809981
cause this was a weak wr draft class in comparison to the previous ones
>>67808892
Nope
>>67810241
>6/16
>majority
Yup, you're done alright.
>p-pls reply to me faster
>"no i have shit to do"
>lul ur a loser ur n 4chiin
When did you become this? You used to be an okay poster.
>>67810095
That doesn't explain why the best WR in the draft was not the first WR taken.
>>67810461
He's okay, I guess.
WHAT IF
WHAT IF
WHAT IF
WHAT IF POLL
https://www.strawpoll.me/10296346
https://www.strawpoll.me/10296346
https://www.strawpoll.me/10296346
https://www.strawpoll.me/10296346
also filename
>>67810568
We're doing What Ifs?!
Could the 2015 Broncos beat the 2014 Patriots or the 2013 Seahawks or the 2012 Ravens?
wew my post is gone
>>67810342
>as a starter
lrn2read
6/11 = a majority, unless they teach math differently in nawlins
>>67810680
>2014 pats
don't think so
>2013 seahawks
quite possibly
>2012 ravens
yup
>>67810342
>used to be an okay poster
Old p12 was BB's eagles identity
>>67810785
people's memories are so short, the 2013 seahawks defense was tremendously better than denver's. they were # 1 in yards allowed/points allowed/ and takeaways. not to mention they held the highest scoring offense ever to 8 points. they also played in a brutally tough division. their offense, unlike the broncos, was actually functional as well with prime lynch and wilson still played really well even if he was still mostly a manager at that point in his career.
>>67810785
You didn't say "as a starter, he was mostly a safety" nor is it material to the point that he played corner for the majority of the season.
>>67810680
not that kind
I went with those two teams from that year because the 15-win Vikings (who didn't draw a easy-ass schedule like the Pants) choked in the NFCCG to an inferior Falcons team, who got beat up on by Denver. The Vikes would have made for a much better matchup.
BUT, to answer yours, in order:
>2015 Broncs v 2014 Pats
Pats win
>vs '13 Hawks
50-50, leaning slightly toward Hawks
>vs '12 ravens
Broncos win easily
>>67811024
>their offense, unlike the broncos, was actually functional as well
uhhhh what
the '13 Broncos broke the all-time scoring record. it was their defense that was below-average.
unless you mean "functional" as in "able to do anything after being safetied on the first play from scrimmage"
>>67810840
yep
>>67811024
it's an opinion based question you know
i think the 2015 broncos would contain wilson well, and that o-line wasn't as good as the panthers', only good players were unger and okung
combine that with much better cornerbacks than the 2013 team had and the average at best seahawks WRs and the passing attack isn't doing much damage, so you can stack the box against lynch
seahawks would be favored, but i don't think it would be the blowout you're implying if brock started the super bowl instead of dead arm peyton
>>67811066
no, i said he played a majority of the games he started as a safety and you sperged out about how i used to be cool or something
i'm so tired of talking about this, you "win" or whatever
>>67811303
im comparing 2013 seahawks to 2015 broncos, not 2013 seahawks to 2013 broncos
>>67811362
>no, i said he played a majority of the games he started as a safety
Actually, you said he "was the starter at free safety for most of the year," which is not the same and also incorrect. But, yeah, keep being retarded.
>>67811362
functional offense +historically great defense>terrible offense + slightly worse defense
i do think it'd be a blowout since that seahawks team had amazing special teams and always got a lot of turnovers.
> Leaveland
JUST
>>67811576
dude you won, don't kick your opponent while he's down with your weird semantical autism
it's unsporting
>>67811653
like i said, with brock starting it's a different beast
don't forget that the broncos shut down a league leading offense too, without the benefit of an offense that could actually keep them off the field and convert more than one of their fourteen 3rd down attempts
like i said before, it's just an opinion though
>>67811303
>>67811442
ah yeah, makes more sense. I would still go with the '13 Hawks on that bet though.
basically what you said >>67811653 here.
>>67811789
>>67811653
to be fair though, this past year's Broncs offense was not quite terrible. Any quarterback with two working legs could have styled on Carolina with DT and Emmanuel.
Rotoworld bringing the banter
>>67812044
emmanuel yes dt no
norman took dt out completely
Could the 2008 lions beat 06 Raiders
>>67812117
>Could the 2008 lions beat
no
>>67812117
the 0-16s could beat any team ever
it's just a matter of odds
>>67812117
1976 bucs are the true WOAT imo, lions are just more pathetic because they weren't an expansion franchise and they had fucking megatron on that team.
>>67812518
the 1976 bucs had an actual hall of famer on their team though, if the metric you're using for patheticness is how good their best player was
Stop
>>67812518
do bucs fans even think the 76 bucs were the worst team in their own history though? obviously they're one of the worst all time in terms of success, but I've heard that purely in terms of how good or bad the team itself was, the 86 bucs were the worst that they ever had.
>>67812518
for once krabs is right. that team lost like 20 games in a row
>>67812560
who was the HOFer on the first-ever Bucs team aka the 0-14s?
>>67812518
and he had Dan Orlovsky/Jon Kitna/ washed-up Daunte Culpepper throwing to him. He couldn't carry the offense like Jerry Rice could (and Jerry NEVER had a bad QB to work with, even in Oakland).
>>67812691
lee roy selmon
he was a rookie and the first overall pick that year
didn't help
>>67812626
idk i just feel like going winless is the ultimate humiliation. if the bucs didn't have 2002 it'd hard to argue they weren't the most pathetic franchise ever
>>67812718
pssst..
>>67812718
they're by FAR the worst team by all-time W/L
they're the only one under .400
>>67812743
they're 31st, and haven't won anything since 1947, so i guess by default they're the worst?
Thoughts on these men?
>>67812718
I'd still say the cards take that title even before 2002, they're the oldest team in the league, have a total win-loss ratio in the bottom 5 of the league, with only 4 playoff appearances and 1 win before the 2008 run, which ended in crushing humiliation. that's just sad.
>>67812715
poor bastard.
>>67812718
that's really a battle between the Lions and Cardinals though, isn't it? The Cards have never won but had one snatched from them at the last possible second, and the Lions have
>1 playoff win in 58 years
while wasting the career of the greatest modern quarterback ever enough to make him walk away from the game completely
>>67812784
Stafford is still playing
>>67812765
Muh gimmick
>>67812784
>quarterback
I knew what you meant but still
if we're going by their entire historic record though, the lions have 4 championships to the cardinals' 2, and one of them is held as a controversial win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_NFL_Championship_controversy
>>67812856
lions also have more hall of famers, even if you give the cardinals night train lane
worst since divisional realignment is the bills
worst in super bowl era is the lions
worst all time is probably cardinals
>OTAs start today
>>67812803
>Stafford is still playing
oh shit I said quarterback instead of running back, fucking lel
anyway
may I emphasize though, really, because it deserves emphasis:
>your organization is such a pile of shit that you were lucky enough to draft who would become the greatest RB in modern NFL history, and your incompetence jaded him so much that he completely walked away from the team and the game of football AFTER A CO-MVP (which should have been MVP for him but w/e) YEAR during his peak...
>rather than be traded.
>rather than sign with another team in hopes of winning a Super Bowl.
>rather than take a year off to think about which direction to go.
He just went up and retired while on pace to break just about every relevant rushing record in history.
It takes a whole other level of idiocy within an organization to do that.
So, even though the Cardinals have zero NFL championships, of which even the Lions have one (1) more, I'm calling the Lions the worst team ever.
>>67795276
I agree that Barr is an elite off ball OLB and I don't care what anyone else says. Linval Joseph was elite as you can get at NT last season and I think he'll perform at that level again. I'd have Griffen as "great" though and Floyd and Diggs as "good". Agree with everything else.
>>67812986
>So, even though the Cardinals have zero NFL championships, of which even the Lions have one (1) more
are you pulling stats out of your ass now?
interesting late night discussion
but one question, how does one compare younger franchises to older ones?
should the ravens be considered among the best because they have 2 owls in a relatively short time frame, at what point do the texans get shit on for never getting past the divisional round?
>>67813034
the ravens are, on a per year basis, the most successful NFL team in terms of championships yeah
the cardinals are especially egregious because they've been around since the NFL started and have 2 championships from before israel existed
teams like the texans and the jaguars will be given a pass probably for about the next 15-20 years, it's really hard to get an expansion franchise off the ground; the ravens were an exception because they were an existing franchise that got moved, not one that started from scratch
>>67795276
>Diggs
>Great
Cmon man, you guys and the fucking seafags hyping up Rawls and Diggs are pathetic.
>smeth got fired from a division with the bird defenses and rasms
>and now has to face miller time as well as mack, irvin, and possibly aldon twice a year
>and if he makes it out, has to face andy reid's second half playoff management
ripip
#MackMondays
>>67813025
OK, so the Cards have 1. it really doesn't change my opinion, and it won't change yours
>>67813090
>the ravens are, on a per year basis, the most successful NFL team in terms of championships yeah
yeah fuck the ravens, unlike the other expansion teams of the 90s they were essentially a relocating up-and-coming team
>teams like the texans and the jaguars will be given a pass probably for about the next 15-20 years, it's really hard to get an expansion franchise off the ground
how about the "new Browns" ?
>>67813034
part of the issue is that how you compare good franchises is different from how you compared bad ones. the ravens having 2 super bowls puts them in the "how good is this franchise" discussion by default. how long a team has been in existence matters comparatively more for bad teams than good teams, because how bad a team is seems that much worse if they've been around for decades longer. on the other hand, if a good team has had some success then how long they've been around is relevant but not quite as important as tangible achievements.
>>67813161
>OK, so the Cards have 1. it really doesn't change my opinion, and it won't change yours
cards have 2, lions have 4. wherever it is that you're trying to look this up, you need a better place cause you still got it wrong even after double checking.
g-go puckers...
>>67813206
My numbers ended being wrong, yes. But the number of championships matter less in my argument than sheer organizational bullshittery and incompetence.
>>67813223
shut up, stork
I don't think I'll make it
>>67813285
>I can't go 3 months without football wahhhhhh
do you have any idea how much of a fag you sound like?
>>67813236
>But the number of championships matter less in my argument than sheer organizational bullshittery and incompetence.
on the basis of just the case with barry sanders? cause that's all I saw you cite. yeah that's a terrible thing you can single out, but it's hardly proof of "sheer organizational bullshittery and incompetence" over the entire existence of their franchise.
the lions of the 30s and 40s were decent, varying from below-average to above-average. the 50s lions were pretty great. they were back to just average again in the 60s and 70s. on the other hand, the cardinals have been consistently between mediocre to just plain bad for almost their entire history. if you want to point out a counterargument, then it's got to be in context of all-time incompetence, not just a certain window.
>>67813358
Seeing how the Raiders will move, can't blame him tho for being a faggot
>>67798871
Fucking stupidest shit I've read all day. Booty devastated Shittsburgh or Patriots fan, guaranteed.
>>67813368
last time I checked the cardinals did not deliberately waste the career of a player of Barry's caliber out of colossal stupidity by management, and as mentioned earlier with Night Train Lane, they've had some HoFers play for them. (Though to be fair, Barry wasted the "second half" of his by outright retiring.)
>>67813456
you're right, they're going 7-9 and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
>>67813358
about as much of a fag as >
>>67813475
>as mentioned earlier with Night Train Lane, they've had some HoFers play for them.
the reason he was brought up was because they were pointing out that even when you count him, the lions still have MORE HoFers than the cardinals do.
so you're back to relying on barry sanders' retirement as your entire argument, which is not much of an argument at all in the large context.
>>67813488
if you're >>67813456, denver doesn't finish with double-digits wins, if that's what you're implying. Why?
>Mark
>Sanchez
I'd really like to see dat Kubiak QB magic work on that guy.
>>67810376
A lot of people put him as the number one WR but not everyone of course. Also I think the fact he went to Ole Miss with this sport scandal they're having may had something to do with it
>>67813090
hey, I see you're still alive :)
>>67813540
No that was me, /b/ erased my trip
>>67813538
I think we might be making different arguments. I'm arguing that the Lions' badness since '58 has been largely deliberate, while the Cardinals have overall just been plain bad.
>>67813573
was i really gone that long?
>>67813594
>deliberate
???
are you saying they were trying to be bad?
>it's a "least coast fans getting BTFO" thread
>>67813594
well the lions lows certainly have been rather pronounced and prominent, but that doesn't necessarily imply that the entire body of work is worse as a whole.
>>67813594
>deliberate
>>67813540
LOL. Remember this post when the Broncos cuck your cheating ass team again this season.
okay guys lets be honest here
we all know the Cowboys have a great chance at playing in the NFCCG at the least this season
>>67813679
>we all know the Cowboys have a great chance at playing in the NFCCG at the least this season
that's a major step down from your typical proclamations. are you actually the real one? I wonder if the trip got cracked
>>67813679
The raiders are winning the owl vs the skins
>>67812914
wouldn't the Browns be worst since realignment?
>>67813692
he has to reel you in slowly, before you teach someone physics you got to teach them algebra
>>67813693
>raiders
>winning an owl
They're saving that for 2018 when they present the Lombardi Trophy to the great city of Las Vegas
>>67813693
stop being delusional please dont follow the oldbay path
>>67813616
>are you saying they were trying to be bad?
should have clarified that the management, especially upper-tier, was. there's a few different ways to be a "bad" organization, and one of them is outright not caring about the team. I'm no expert, but I get the impression that the Ford family fell in this category (except Martha very recently). Like I mentioned earlier, it takes a special kind of ignorance/stupidity to goad the GOAT RB since Jim Brown and reigning MVP to retire completely from the NFL.
>>67813693
NOT AGAIN REEEEEEEEE
>>67813693
I would rather see something besides a rematch
Raiders vs Seahawks
or Raiders vs Cards
>>67813746
Pot calling the keddle back
>>67813746
>le romo is elite shitposter
>telling others not to be delusional
>>67813773
My posts are for the most part completely reasonable and unlike him and I dont dismiss coherent posts with memery
>>67813769
The erection I would sustain from seeing Carson destroyed by that defense would be immense
>>67813223
No. Don't go Puckers.
>>67813773
>keddle
>>67813783
stats since 2007, often considered the start of our current passing era
Brady
Touchdown Percentage-5.94%
Interception Percentage-1.52%
Completion Percentage-64.6%
Yards Per Attempt-7.7
Passer Rating-101.5
Rodgers
Touchdown Percentage-6.4%
Interception Percentage-1.59%
Completion Percentage-65.2%
Yards Per Attempt-8
Passer Rating-104.3
Romo
Touchdown Percentage-5.7%
Interception Percentage-2.6%
Completion Percentage-65.2%
Yards Per Attempt-7.8
Passer Rating-97.2
Brees
Touchdown Percentage-5.6%
Interception Percentage-2.46%
Completion Percentage-67.89%
Yards Per Attempt-7.7
Passer Rating-99.3
Ben
Touchdown Percentage-5%
Interception Percentage-2.36%
Completion Percentage-64.4%
Yards Per Attempt-7.85
Passer Rating-95.3
Rivers
Touchdown Percentage-5.32%
Interception Percentage-2.57%
Completion Percentage-65.1%
Yards Per Attempt-7.81
Passer Rating-96
Peyton
Touchdown Percentage-5.88%
Interception Percentage-2.47%
Completion Percentage-66.7%
Yards Per Attempt-7.72
Passer Rating-99
Flacco
Touchdown Percentage-3.98%
Interception Percentage-2.5%
Completion Percentage-60.9%
Yards Per Attempt-6.96
Passer Rating-84.6
Palmer
Touchdown Percentage-4.5%
Interception Percentage-3.1%
Completion Percentage-62.3%
Yards Per Attempt-7.35
Passer Rating-86.9
Eli
Touchdown Percentage-4.85%
Interception Percentage-3.15%
Completion Percentage-60.7%
Yards Per Attempt-7.3
Passer Rating-86.5
Stafford
Touchdown Percentage-4.41%
Interception Percentage-2.65%
Completion Percentage-60.8%
Yards Per Attempt-7
Passer Rating-85.8
as you can see now that Peyton Manning is retired Romo is now among the elite 4 and above Rivers and Ben and far above Eli, Palmer and others """people""" call rivals to Romo
Elites in no specific order
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Romo
kinda elite
5. Roethlisberger
6. Rivers
small gap
7. Wilson
>>67813787
>>67813783
Canada is right about something for once
>>67813727
yeah except physics and algebra are based on cold hard facts
>>67813817
Derek Carr will have :
TD percentage of 8.2%
Interception percentage of 1.0%
82% Comp/ATT
14.9 PYA
127.9 QBPR
>>67813855
Dubs confirm
>>67813852
>82% Comp/ATT
for some reason this one is the most ridiculous for me
imagine a QB completing over 80% of their passes for a year, let alone a career
basically brees on steroids
Chargers/Cardinals broship?
>>67813876
we're going to see a 75% passer in our lifetime with all the dink dunking/rule changes going on
>>67811112
You're stupid
>>67813892
rule changes are the biggest reason why i think comparing QBs from our era and the future to anyone before them is pretty futile
back in the 70s it was pretty normal for the completion percentage leader to complete about 62-64%; nowadays that's what you need to be considered decent
the last time the league leader in completion percentage completed below 67% of their passes was kurt warner in 1999
>>67813959
same thing can be said of any sport really, eras are so hard to compare.
>>67813959
This
When Terry Bradshaw and Joe Namath were playing dbs were allowed to maul receivers down the field and lbs and des were allowed to decapitate them a full 3 seconds after they released the ball. It's a completely different game now and the comparisons just don't hold
>>67813855
I will now predict the next 15 owls
51 : Raiders over Redskins 37-21
MVP : Mack, 8 TKL, 5 TFL, 3 sacks, 1FR, 1 TD
52 : Detroit over Houston 14-9
MVP : Matt Stafford 42/69, 2 TDs, 46 yards Rushing, 0 INTs
53 : GB over NE 54-47
MVP : Devante Adams, 10 Rec, 127 Yds, 4 TDs, 7.5 rec avg
54 : Raiders over GB 40-38
MVP : Derek Carr 28/37, 373 Yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 27 Yds Rushing
55 : Texans over Saints 32-12
MVP : J.J. Watt, 5 Sacks, 2 Rec, 1 TD, 6 TFL
56 : Texans over Dallas 56-19
MVP : DeAndre Hopkins, 12 Rec, 180 Yds, 3 TDs, 1 KR TD
57 : Browns over Dallas 16-3
MVP : Joe Haden, 3 INTs, 1 TD, 2 TFL
58 : GB over Browns 37-9
MVP : Brett Favre, 37-44, 5 TDs, 3 INTs, 121 Rush yards
59 : Jags over Saints 21-17
MVP : Allen Hurns, 8 Rec, 107 Yds, 2 TDs, 13.8 rec avg
60 : Bills over Dallas 55-17
MVP : Cordy Glenn, 0 sacks allowed, 1 TD, 6:1 Block Ratio
61 : Vikes over Jets 18-6
MVP : Teddy Bridgewater, 32-56, 280 yds, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 89.3 Game manager rating
62 : LA Rams over jets 37-3
MVP : Rob Gronkowski, 4 rec TDs, 12.8 avg.
63 : Raiders over LA Rams 44-35
MVP : Derek Carr Sr. 43-60, 5 TDs, 1 INT, 37 yds rushing, 9.0 ypa, 7.3 ypr
64 : Detroit over Cleveland 61-50
MVP : Nate Montana, 40-67, 512 Yds, 6 TDs, 2 INTs, 22.0 ypa
65 : NYG over PIT 44-20
MVP : Josh Norman
*predictions subject to change
>>67814068
>Lions
>Browns
>Texans
>Bills
>Vikings
>winning owls
pick one
>>67814068
>brett favre
lmao hes been retired forever you nerd
>>67814068
josh norman will be 43 in the year of super bowl 65
>>67814068
I bet you thought that was funny as you typed that out didn't you?
>>67814068
>53 : GB over NE 54-47
>MVP : Devante Adams, 10 Rec, 127 Yds, 4 TDs, 7.5 rec avg
I'm not sure which of these is harder to believe.
>58 : GB over Browns 37-9
>MVP : Brett Favre, 37-44, 5 TDs, 3 INTs, 121 Rush yards
Never mind, you're just being retarded.
>>67814116
how come you didn't respond to me
>>67814121
ITS NOT MY FAULT I WAS BORN SHORT
ITS NOOOOOOOOOOOOT MMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY FAAAAAAUUUUULLLLLLLLLTTTTT
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
I CAN'T CONTROL MY HEIGHT
I WANT TO BE 6'2 WHY WON'T YOU LET ME BE 6'2 I JUST WANT TO GROW
STOP HOLDING IT OVER MY HEAD. DO YOU THINK THIS IS A JOKE????
5'7 ISN'T EVEN THAT SHORT
>>67814123
thank (You)
>>67814125
wrong thread or wrong board? this reminds me of /r9k/ a lot
anyone have a John Conner in MUT they'd auction/trade?
>>67814125
Why does Texas get it's own flag?
>>67814143
WTF are you talking about?
>>67814171
Because it's the only state to go to war with a country and win.
>>67814125
Darren what are you doing in Costa Rica? You have OTA's to go to
>>67814171
john conner is a fullback for the jets iirc
not sure why anyone would want his card, i don't think he's that good
maybe it's for a set
>>67814183
kek
>>67814180
Texas wasn't a state then, by that logic 13 "states" beat Great Britain. Besides Texas getting it's shit kicked in during the Civil War negates any success it had against Mexico lol
>>67814210
13 states did btfo out of Britian though...
Yeah Civil War hurt Texas, but they contributed heavy with US beating the Nazis in WW2. Supplied all the damn oil.
Well it looks like that raiders trip out-delusioned the cowboys trip
>>67814241
Nothing i say is in the realm of delusion I am one of the most reasonable trips here
>>67814254
is there a ranking of the most delusional trips?
Its 4th and 1 and you have to stop Chip Kelly's offense to get the ball back and win the game
>You're the DC
>your guys are tired
>Wat do
>>67814263
Wew lad, 7 player blitz, man coverage 1 safety inside zone
>>67814237
Texas wasn't part of America during the Mexican-American war so Texas wasn't a state, so Texas never won a war
>>67814256
Tiki and his various other trips, Get Brady, and that Paxton Lynch is the future GOAT guy take the delusion cake
>>67814256
5. Canada Lions guy
4. Chiefs fans
3. Old Bay
2. Pats fans
1. Cowboys fans
>>67814256
Ill make one
>>67814263
sit back and relax because he is about to royally spill bis spaghetti and cost his team the game
also fuck you captcha you piece of shit
>>67814254
Also the gayest
Jordan "Cowboy Killer" Hicks is coming to finish the job
>>67814293
>27 posts early
srs?
>>67814263
Call a time out
>>67814293
I don't like this meme
>>67814293
kys
>>67814293
>27 posts early
Why are you so obsessed with me anon?
>>67814272
>>67814285
The halfback was in guarded and caught a flat route after pulling a blitzed away through play action read
The quarterback lobbed it over for a completion that he took 20 yards before the safety pushed him out of bounds
>>67814293
wew lad
>>67814316
It has nothing to do with you. Jesus you're such an attention whore
>>67814326
I'm sure you just made it about Joe Flacco by accident then?
>>67814331
>I am the only Ravens fan in the world
not even that guy but wew lad are you always this retarded?
>its an old bay segment
>>67814331
It's literally a news topic. Flacco is expected to miss all OTAs
Fuck man, try harder to stay up to date with the team you supposedly go for
Fucking Baltimurder "resident"
>>67814335
>>67814347
Keep telling yourself that kid
>>67814456
>reaching this hard
Literally not even the same anon
Worst fucking trip on /sp/
>>67814335
if you're not filtering him you're not doing it right
>>67814471
>Iphone poster
ok
>>67814471
Effective
Power
Reset=1
>>67814500
Fucking bitch
>>67814489
>he buys into console wars
Okay "loyal" faggot
>>67814524
>console
>phone
>>67814524
>console wars
I literally have no idea what you are talking about, is that /v/ talk?
>>67814536
>>67814537
Old Gay losing his trip as usual
>>67814628
zozzle, Look at the times you retard
>>67814638
>implying you don't shitpost on your phone and computer
>implying you didn't get tired of getting btfo and caught riding your own dick
Kill yourself bottom feeding bartender
>>67814670
>this much projecting
>>67812765
Nearly each one is still better than shitford :^)
>>67814254
>reasonable
Wew lad your posts always give me a laugh even after a shitty night
>>67814090
>brett favre
>not coming out of retirement and being mvp in 2020
Its not just a meme you know...
t. A farseer
>>67813783
>le lions are elite """man"""
Im trying not to samefag so much but i hate chain replies
>>67813285
Vegasfag here, pls keep Raidniggers away, we have enough shit here as it is.
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