How old is your church? If you're not a Catholic why even claim to be a Christian?
A timeline of Christian history.
>>80615214
Orthodox Master Religion - 33
Cuckatholic - 1054
anglican
:(
>>80615718
Both are from the same time.
They just disagree about papal primacy and some other things.
But Pope is trully the heir of Peter, even Orthodoxy aknowledged it
>>80615874
Anglicans are scum and should be beheaded
>>80615214
>>80615718
both orthodox and catholic Churches are 33 and 1054 and the same time, since they are both apostolic and there was no catholic or orthodox before 1054
stop fighting over some dumb crap just because some faggots in the past were greedy for power
>>80615718
Really? Who's the leader of your church? Was your first pope Peter?
>>80616041
i know senpai
i'm slowly realizing how beyond help the global anglican church is
catholicism or bust?
>>80615718
>cuckthodox opinions
your religion is entirely defined by being edgy and refusing to accept the leadership of the bishop or rome as vicar of christ
>>80616304
not all of them are churches though...
Atheism is the oldest one because in our early beginnings we didn't has any concrete beliefs.
>>80616304
>church
>atheism
>Anon, you should get a gf of the same faith!
I'm fucked, aren't I?
>>80616587
>>80616624
>mexican intellectuals
>>80616701
marry any christian girl, the man picks the religion of the kid anyway
>>80616287
First among equals mean anything to you? Five Holy Sees. Rome just got uppity and broke away.
Enjoy your cuck pope.
>morman
>>80615304
>East-West Schism didn't happen
Not even gonna bother with the smaller happenings.
>>80616587
You missed the new sticker
>>80616080
Technically, yes and no. Peter was first patriarch of Antioch and then pope of Rome. At that time, he acknowledged himself as equal to all the other apostolic bishops. The idea of the pope being the head of the church came much, much later. The Christians in Rome would have acknowledged Peter as their bishop, but the other areas would not have had him as their bishop.
>>80616804
It's not nice to talk to your son like that
>>80615214
Lutheran
Catholicism is by far the most based religion.
Done properly, it makes Islam look tame.
>>80615304
>what is the schism
>what are the apologetic heresies
>getting the term catholic (universal) confused with the Catholic Church.
>>80616304
Communism is the atheist religion.
Also, I thought Jews and their ways pre-dated Christianity, which was a parody religion they made up to see what crap the average moron could be made to believe.
>>80615214
are you really sure that Catholicism is older than Judaism? I kind of doubt that...
>>80617227
The oldest surviving complete manuscript copy of the Babylonian Talmud is dated to 1342 CE.
>>80615214
>catholics still claiming to be christian in the year 2016
I understand you have a lot of freetime since you don't have to read the bible yourself, but don't you have some idols to be worshipping or some saints to be praying to or something?
>>80617446
>>80616304
sorry, meant to answer to this dumb fuck
>>80616855
>First among equals mean anything to you
and he's still nothing but that, the problem is about culture eastern europeans cant be happy without balcanization
>Enjoy your cuck pope.
enjoy your holy see being in muslims hands
>>80615304
>No cathars
>No Husite wars
>no east-west schism
If you're part of a demonination, you're not Christian.
>>80615214
Sorry bro, I don't have a foot fetish.
>>80617494
>protestants
>reading the bible
dont you have some selfhelp book or speech to buy from the online shop of your televangelist
>>80617579
>mfw most "non-denominational" christians are just protestant faggots in denial.
Every belief you have can be categorized whether you like it or not.
Divide and conquer: Christian /pol/ edition
>>80615214
Cthulhu: 1000000 BC
>>80617494
>Half the world's Christian population isn't Christian
>>80615214
Christianity aka Discipleship of Christ - 33 AD
Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and mainline Protestantism - centuries later
>>80617767
>divide and conquer
>a bad thing
I don't wanna be united and hold hands with a bunch of lazy ass white trash Protestants who think all you have to do to get into Heaven is "accept Jesus".
>>80616041
The main body of Anglican groups are literally Catholic minus a few things.
Back into your favela you ignorant hue monkey cunt. Go catch Zika and raise the I.Q. of your country
>>80617720
Let me guess, I'm protestant because I'm not worshiping goofy Popes and saints nor am I wearing silly clothes and hats.
>>80617926
Harsh m8
>>80615214
I'm Eastern Orthodox
>Get rekt Catholics
>>80615214
who here /roman catholic/?
>>80617446
Spoiler: Jews, Mormons, and Muslims all claim to be identical to the original Hebrews. All of them are wrong.
5,000 years old. Jesus ain't got no shit on Vishnu.
>>80617926
>his church's head is a women
kys
There is no way catholicism is from the year 33, only around 300 or so there was some council where they determined the nature of Jesus I remember it has something to do with deciding whether Jesus was purely divine or divine+human or purely human and it was a big deal back then
>>80615214
>Catholic
>33 AD
Uhhh pretty sure the Catholic/Orthodox schism didn't occur until 1054, friend-o.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcedonian_Christianity
Before that there was no Catholicism or Orthodox and most people in Europe followed Chalcedonian Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcedonian_Christianity
lrn2history before you come out on /pol spouting nonsense and sounding like a retard.
>>80617846
You're right, this is very "christian"
>>80618190
Er my mistake first link was supposed to be this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism
>>80617846
The Vatican church is filled with graven images, God very clearly forbid this but the Catholic Church ignored this.
Matthew 16:18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
How do non-Catholics rationalize this?
>>80617892
>lazy ass white trash Protestants who think all you have to do to get into Heaven is "accept Jesus".
mfw
>>80618190
Wasnt it Nicene Christianity before Chalcedonian?
>>80615214
Anyone notice that even in the Bible the churches were doing wrong things? Paul writes about some things in his letters to te churches, and then in revelation when Jesus has his messages to the churches, he tells them that he holds things against them because they were doing corrupt things.
How is it that people believe Catholics could never had been corrupted after existing for almost 2000 years?
>>80618202
That fucking nose
>>80618202
So Islam is the largest religion in the world then?
>>80617690
>>80617892
>>80618050
>>80618385
Have you guys apologized to any sodomites like your pope false-god demands?
>>80618017
Yeah nah cobb, it wasn't. These Huemonks need to think before they speak and to only speak when spoken to/about
>Anglicans are scum
>Never mind Anglicans are literally Catholic minus one or two things the Catholics are yet to approve
>>80616304
aren't we forgetting something there whiteboi?
>>80618603
>we should not make faggots life harder, they're going to burn in hell anyway
>HOLY FUCK! FRANCISCO LOVES GAYS!
protestants everyone
>>80618571
Nah senpai, the pope is just a political prostitute who does whatever Soros and the like tell him to. He's probably a lot closer to being a nihilist
>>80618868
>no point in trying to get sinners to repent
>might as well just give up and enable their sin
Catholics everyone
Catholicism is of the Devil
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8C6E641820DB83B3
Also it invented Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA
>>80616201
Catholicism is pure cancer
Protestants say "sola fides" then they say Catholics are going to Hell for their "bad works". Interesting.
>>80619016
>asking a sinner to repent
>mistreating him
you still can shot them if you want Omar
>>80619277
Face it, your pope is literally a social justice warrior
>>80618881
Then which is the church the gates of Hades shall not prevail against?
>>80615214
The daily Jewish mythological contest!
My Jewish based faith is more authentic than your Jewish based faith!
>Catholics
>33
>What is the great schism?
g2school
>>80618868
The next step in the (((Catholic))) master-plan is to start teaching that gays won't go to Hell. Other denominations already do it. Fucking denomination cucks.
>>80619450
>he doesn't understand the difference between God and the demiurge
>he doesn't comprehend the point of the new covenent
>he doesn't know what Christ did for those three days
>he doesn't know true Christian faith means a hatred of satan and the jew
>>80619448
The independent, fundamental baptist church who is free from worldly influence, who replaces tradition with scripture, and answers to no one except God
>>80615214
>catholic only 33 years old
Checkmate atheists.
>>80619720
>literally nigger tier
No thanks
>>80615214
>no orthodox
Sneaky fucking Catholics trying to claim direct descent from Jesus teachings while those are the Orthodox.
>>80619377
>no women as leaders of my church
http://archive.is/pzkwf
>no faggots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Apostolic_Pentecostals
keep trying my heretic friend
>>80619450
>christianity is a jewish religion
>jews won't even use the fucking plus symbol because it reminds them of the cross
lmao, jesus said the Jews who do not worship him are the children of Satan
>>80619685
>he doesn't know it was all made up by foreign Jewish desert dwellers 2000 years ago and retards believe it as literal truth because Kings of Europe forced them to.
>>80615214
> Leave out orthodoxy
This is catholic delusion right there. One of their main claims is a straight up lie/fabrication.
But yeah my church was founded in 1829, I'm Mormon.
>>80619836
This is the advantage of protestantism, if one branch becomes cancerous, it doesn't affect the other branches because there is no central church authority. If the pope becomes corrupted, it affects all catholics
>>80619916
>implying it's all not Jewish mythology
Keep Jewish traditions alive. The kikes love you retards.
>>80619821
Sodomite detected
>>80616080
Yes
Shit gets confusing before the schism, heck, orthodox is just another word for catholic and pope is just another word for patriarch
The entire bullshit happened because muh celibate priests and muh bread
Far into antiquity.
>>80617926
>The main body of Anglican groups are literally Catholic minus a few things.
That's exactly the problem you filthy kangaroo.
The anglican church only exist because a degenerate king wanted to break his oath but the Pope didnt let him do it.
In the past 10-15 years in the protestant Christian world there has been an epic battle of denominations, thus the birth of the ‘non-denominational’ church. This type of church has come from the need of young (and old) Christians who don’t want to be pigeon-holed. Pigeon holed is a sociological or anthropological way of saying ‘put into a box’. This is a feeling that is as old as culture itself. Some Christians wish not to be put into a denominational box which has lead to the rise of the ‘non-denominational’ church. These churches range from small 30 person house churches to 10,000 member mega churches. Yet most of them look the same way, mostly young people, couples, who like to hear a good sermon that’s not too challenging, listen and sing rock-ish music, in a big dark room, and feel good upon departure. I am not here to bash any of that – most of it I also enjoy.
Lets get something straight, there is no such thing as non-denominational. You're a Protestant whether you like it or not.
If you believe in sola fide you're a Protestant who has nothing in common with the teachings of Jesus, the apostles, the saints, and the church he established.
Billions of years, because there is no god, and I'm an atheist, and that's the natural belief for any intelligent lifeform in the universe before somebody creates something and indoctrinates with it. I'm not trying to be edgy or anything, I just can't fathom how you can believe in deities. It should be next to Harry Potter and Game Of Thrones in the fiction section of libraries.
Even if you look past the fact it's retarded, christianity literally came from israeli hebrews ~2000 years ago and got set upon the west. It had no place in ancestral Europe before that. It's semitic garbage that's been shoved into everyone's brains. Love, tolerance, forgiveness. Good goy.
>>80615214
the disciples were not catholics you dingleberry pie.
>>80620063
You're right rabbi, I better listen to (((richard dawkins))) and (((bill maher))) like a good goyim and live a life of consumerism and hedonism to spite the jews
Reminder you're not redpilled if you believe in religion, the original "shut up and be good" crowd control
>>80620034
Orthodoxy and the Catholic Church will reunite soon enough
>>80620420
>telling fags/women to shut up and be good
>bad
wew lad
Never understood how someone can call themselves a Christian and deny the reality of apostolic succession/
You know how the apostle Judas was replaced by Matthias in the book of Acts? Well guess what, that continued happening for hundreds of years today and the Pope and other bishops are their successors.
>>80620333
Keep Jewish traditions alive and thriving.
While you're at it, spend thousands on a trip to Israel to see the (((Holy Land))).
Go take out your family to see a nice (((Christian))) movie.
Keep the Jewish stories and traditions alive while you destroy European mythology because it's "evil."
>>80620420
totally, just follow the mainstream opinion like a good goy and live a life of consumerism to spite the jews
Nothing wrong with (((porn))) or (((sodomy))) at all goyim, you don't wanna be one of those evil, bigoted, intolerant christians after all do you?
>>80620463
Can you come up with anything that tells us it isn't just something someone wrote 2000 years ago? I'm a pretty right wing person and conservative in all other regards, but I just can't bring myself to believe in something that seems like a crock of bullshit. Keep posting your little memes, I'll leave now with the satisfaction that you keep believing lies and I'm enlightened.
>>80615718
This and only this.
>>80620668
>implying you need Jewish myths to not be degenerate
>>80616304
Are you aware there are famous atheists from fucking ancient greek times ?
>>80615214
>Orthodox Master Religion - 33
>Master
luke 14 26 faggot.
>>80615214
>claim to be a Christian?
does based Zoroaster count?
most Americans are Setian, they worship immigrants and homosexuals
>>80620668
>implying I'm incapable of having morals without religion
You say good goy, but I don't think you realize how ironic your post is
>>80620647
>European mythology
Oh shit haha, I thought you were a fedora-tipper, I didn't know you were a LARPer
>>80618184
>atheist intellectual
>>80616080
>Who's the leader of your church?
God. Enjoy being in a cult.
>>80620681
>I'll leave now with the satisfaction that you keep believing lies and I'm enlightened.
There is no such thing as "non-denominational". Every church has a doctrine. That doctrine will identify your church with a denomination, whether they call themselves that or not. Every Christian has opinions on soteriology and eschatology which can be categorized. Whether you like it or not. Stop telling yourself that you're "outside the box" because you're not.
>>80620842
>Oh shit haha, I thought you were a fedora-tipper, I didn't know you were a LARPer
>>80620420
>the original "shut up and be good" crowd control
That's actually very important. No society could survive without something that keep people on line
>>80620744
>>80620829
Why are you so afraid of being held up to a moral standard beyond yourself?
>>80615214
Heh...plebs. My church is older than any sky father.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. Why do Protestants with their "private interpretation" ignore this?
>>80621134
>implying the thing above ourselves has a Jewish origin.
>>80621100
Paganism is dead.
Except the greek-roman gods we know very few about it.
Theres no reason in following a religion that is dead for centuries.
>>80620218
'protestant' isn't a denomination, it's a categorization of denominations.
christian:
>i am saved by grace through faith, not of works
roman catholic:
>i am saved by the good works that Christ's grace enables me to do
My region had Christianity before the official Baptisation of Rus.
>>80621376
If you believe in sola fide you're not a Christian.
>>80618603
They're not sodomites until a dick goes up a bum. Just like sociopaths aren't criminals until they mass murder or Japanese aren't pedos until they rape 3D children.
>>80621100
>believing in the most anti-semetic religion of all time with the most jewish blood on it's hands by far is being jewish
Lol. Silly magic-believers.
>>80621438
>the most anti-semetic religion of all time with the most jewish blood on it's hands
Islam?
I can't deal with this modernism in the Catholic Church. My priest gets up on the altar and cracks fucking jokes during the liturgy. ALPHA programs are being deployed throughout my diocese. The one TLM parish that opened up isn't even a bandaid on this. Why should I not simply become Orthodox?
>>80621100
Serious question-
If your gods were real, why did they do nothing to protect your giant phallic symbol I mean Oak?
>>80621277
But it was invented by white people!!!11! And white people are magic, which is why they were so easily influenced by "da joos"
I think everyone with any semetic blood is an evil scheming kike and white people bear no responsibility for their degeneracy, we dindu nuffin
>>80621437
>enabling degeneracy and sin
>le "don't judge" maymay
>>80621438
>actually believes this
You faggots aren't even real Christians.
Go into any church and tell your pastor all the shit you say on here.
How you hate Jews and Christ hates Jews.
How you want Jews and non-whites dead.
You want a white only homeland.
You want Christ to smite all non-whites.
None of the shit you faggots say on here will be accepted in any church.
You're all lying retards.
>>80621435
opinion noted, but i've got to say: it's a bad one that's completely alien to the gospel.
My church can beat up your church.
>>80615214
I'm not religious, I am not even baptised.
>>80615214
>>80615718
Orthodox Catholic is the name, in OP pic year 33 is Orthodox Catholic.
Roman church didnt exist for another 1100 years.
>>80621435
If you believe in the traditions of the whore of Babylon, you're already lost.
>>80621728
>go to someone doing their job and start talking politics incredibly frankly, like an autist
>get surprised when they act differently
>>80621962
A bullet for every protestant, that's what I say.
>>80621920
Orthodox faggots didn't start until 1066 AD.
Meanwhile there have always been born again Christians since Pentecost 32 AD.
>>80621962
>muh fish hat
>>80622034
Yes, that's the evil temperament of the whore's children.
>>80621728
>How you hate Jews and Christ hates Jews.
>implying I haven't thoroughly discussed this book with my pastor
>implying my pastor isn't a jew-hating holocaust denier
Not all churches are as pozzed as what you've been exposed to
>How you want Jews and non-whites dead.
I don't, I want to show them the way
>You want a white only homeland.
I don't, there is no salvation in "muh whites", whites are not magical, they are one of the most degenerate races of all time
>You want Christ to smite all non-whites.
I don't, I want all whites and non-whites to believe
I'm a Protestant but I don't see how you can have faith without works. I mean in a practical way like if you believe and have faith in what Jesus said your actions should follow. Faith without works is like saying "Oh I believe in conservative values but I'm going to vote liberal"
>>80622065
Not just the hat.
Everything.
Literally everything.
>>80622079
Keep spewing shit out of your mouth. It'll being going in the opposite way once I send you to hell, where you belong.
>>80622115
>implying the pope is a fish
>>80621590
Actually not.
Muslims used to treat kikes well before the XX century. One of the excuses that the muslims used to conquest the Iberian peninsula was because the christians were treating jews very bad.
>>80622102
If what you believe does not become actions, then you don't really believe it.
But the whore and her sister say that the actions determine who's saved and who is not. And whores lie.
>>80615214
Methodist church, we idolize mr John Wesley here
>>80622138
The only person you're sending to hell looks back at you in a mirror.
>>80622083
>I don't, there is no salvation in "muh whites", whites are not magical, they are one of the most degenerate races of all time
Thanks for being an honest Christian and proving you're faith is anti-white.
/r/christanity is for you
>>80622041
Orthodox Catholic Christianity is what the 12 apostles of Jesus followed.
At year 1054 Roman Church was created, as Orthodox Catholic church refused the change from traditional orthodox values.
Roman Catholic church is doing herresy and are in fact Anti-Christ and its leaders are satanic.
Time to take the ultimate red-pill.
>>80622187
A gay fish.
>>80622102
>I mean in a practical way like if you believe and have faith in what Jesus said your actions should follow.
Protestant philosophy is that if your actions don't follow, it's a good sign you're probably not a real believer
Using an icon made by Greeks
HAHAhahahahahahaha
>>80622138
>Grown men arguing about the after life and sending each other to "hell"
I wish theists could understand how absurd they are.
>>80622247
I probably do belong there. But every protestant does, and I am strongly considering starting to send them there myself.
>>80621277
>Paganism is dead.
then how come everyone with their Setian symbolism?
>>80622227
To your shame, yes. Busy little bees, buzzing around trying to "act" right. Busy busy busy.
What did God say again?
Oh yeah. "Be still and know that I am God."
>>80622248
>putting your faith in a suicidal race of hedonists
>>80622273
No, it isn't. Orthodoxy started in 1066, and they were well dead by then.
None of them believed water washed away sins. None of them believed oil let in the Holy Spirit. None of them believed you had to be a member of the "right" church here on earth. None of them got slapped in the face with herbs on Easter.
The claims your church makes are false.
>>80622208
>But the whore and her sister say that the actions determine who's saved and who is not
Ah I see, I was looking at it as a sign of true faith not as a prerequisite to get into heaven
>>80616073
Shouldnt they both be then considered a 1054 invention, and whatever preceded it to be called something else?
>>80622358
The only person you're sending to hell is you.
If you want Jesus to save you from this murderous binge you seem so keen on, ask Him to.
>>80621611
Change your church, but do not leave catholicism.
"Modernism" is a stupid reason to leave the Church. We had the fucking Borgias ruling the catholic and people still stayed catholic.
Orthodox was historically pure cesaropapism, they are based as /pol/ make people think
>>80621611
Change your church, but do not leave catholicism.
"Modernism" is a stupid reason to leave the Church. We had the fucking Borgias ruling the catholic and people still stayed catholic.
Orthodox was historically pure cesaropapism, they arent based as /pol/ make people think
>>80615718
This. Catholicism is heresy.
>>80622571
I tell you what, why don't you come and convert me IRL? :^)
>>80622612
>grease
>>80622570
The truth is that the 7 types of churches were already in place in the 1st century, written about by John from Jesus, and those 7 types of churches are also 7 ages where one of those types is dominant.
We are in the last age now, the apostate church that has nothing to do with Jesus.
>>80622680
Muricuck
>>80622673
Because my Lord instructed me to be wise as a serpent, but harmless as a dove.
I have 7.62 reasons why you would lose that argument.
>>80622573
>implying the borgias were "bad"
Keep believing that propaganda.
>>80622791
Pay denbts.
>>80616009
No, the Roman Catholic church changed the creed. That literally makes it new church.
Baptist and I hate Evangelicals with a fiery passion along with Mormons and j witnesses.
>>80622799
I've got .380 arguments that will ground you in reality.
>>80621650
Did you forget taking your autism pills there lad?
>>80621277
We know plenty about the Norse gods as well, thanks to the older and poetic eddas and all the Paganism that christianity just took over ( see Easter, Christmas, Halloween etc )
Basic gist is be a decent, hardworking honorable person and respect your ancestors.
the gods are equal parts nature and ideals, Thor is the ideal badass warrior/whatever, Odin is the ideal wise scholar, Freya is the ideal mother etc and you should look up to them, not as in worship but as something you should aspire to be.
Also burn shit, feast and get drunk on holidays.
>>80622812
They're all evil, and they're all in hell.
>>80622927
BENIS
>>80618286
Read the 7th ecumenical council and then look up St. John of Damascus, Theodore the studite.
>>80622859
Then you're a shitty Baptist. Like Westbro shitty.
>>80622791
>cucked by Turkey from 1300-18whenever
>now cucked by neoturkey
>calls others cucked
Dude you're the one with the fetish for it
>>80622927
Waaaaaaaaay too late.
>>80621616
Why can no pagan ITT answer this question?
>>80623046
FUCK YOU Mormon moron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WbAuuVBdY0
>>80616587
>Atheism is the oldest one because in our early beginnings we didn't has any concrete beliefs.
>Mexican Intellectuals
Atheism is a concrete belief. The absence of concrete belief is agnosticism, and even that wouldn't be the oldest belief system. The history, anthropology, archeology, and psychology all indicate that the original belief of primitive peoples was most likely Animism.
Not a theological argument
>>80623046
>being triggered by Westboro
fag detected
>>80623241
>self reported
>>80623241
The numbers for the papists and orthodox seem high. I would have liked to have seen some content oriented questions asked of the "once a week or more" crowd.
>>80622993
>a Pope
>in Hell
Ummm no.
>>80615214
Please hang yourself.
>>80623067
Cucked by Israelis, Vietnamese, Arabs, Afghanis, Russians and the ride keeps going.
>>80623388
Actually, I said all of the popes. Just like all of the Roman emperors before them with the same title, same position, same throne, etc.
>>80623227
>Atheism is a concrete belief. The absence of concrete belief is agnosticism
theism is the belief in the existence god(s)
atheism is the lack of that belief
>>80623443
Pay denbts.
>>80623308
Do you want to see mommy reported? Who else would report religious action than the person?
>>80623308
I believe it, most modern catholics probably think reading the bible is islamophobic
I follow the teachings of Christ as its written in the New Testament, why would you need anything else?
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>>80618091
pololoo
>>80623443
>Vietnamese
You mean those guys we beat in a war?
>Israelis
Stealth cucking m8
>everyone else
Smuganime.png alongside 'greek intellectuals' written in greentext
>>80623654
Er, because Jesus is the New Covenant, He did not teach the New Covenant.
>>80622609
Why is cesaropapism bad?
>>80623481
>good people
>burning in hell
I'd hate to be part of your shitty religion.
>>80623564
>he has a mother fetish
>>80623631
I doubt most protestants know how to read, let alone can read the bible
>>80623564
>Muslim voting Democrat
Why?
>>80623821
>good people
>". . .No one is good except God alone." --God (Luke 18:19)
>>80623821
There are no good people.
Only God is good.
>>80623882
What an asinine statement. Go ask the Magisterium what every single bible verse means.
>>80624172
"No"
>>80623882
Catholic making fun of people for having mommy fetishes.
Too much.
>>80623564
I'd be interested in how many of those "Buddhists" are Buddhists as opposed to leftist faggots trying to be trendy.
And why are atheists such fags?
Abandoning religion didn't turn me into a cuck.
>>80623896
Wars in the middle east mainly. Before 9/11 they were split leaning republican.
>>80615214
Catholic church is from 1054.
Orthodox church is from 33.
Catholic split from Orthodox, and established papal primacy and papal infallibility, thus changing the religion.
They changed a bunch of other crap later as well.
We haven't.
>>80624224
>Every protestant reads the bible for themselves.
>I doubt protestants read the bible at all.
This much cognitive dissonance must be demonic.
Cathodox didn't exist until around 300AD at the earliest.
>>80624290
Catholic is 325 AD
Orthodox is 1066 AD
Born Again Christians: 32 AD.
As long as you're not a filthy cuckolic, I don't care
>muh crusades
>muh papal state
>muh purgatory
>Bruno deserved to be burned
>pay gibs for Vatican and you can sin :DDD
And now they got fucking Francis as pope
>>80624290
This
Fucking heretics
Wrong people were burnt
>>80624325
Most protestants don't even understand the point of their religion. Please show me where I claimed they read it for themselves, and not just parrot what their pastors say.
>>80624237
>a mother fetishist can't understand love beyond his fetish
Don't know why I was surprised
>>80623483
Atheism is the assertion that there is no God. This is a concrete claim about the nature of reality.
Described logically; if Theism is 'A' then Atheism is "not A", "-A", "!A", etc.
It is not an simple absence. That would be: " ", "null", "no comment", etc..
>>80621277
that's why I follow Roman Paganism. Join my cult of Apollo and fight Dionysian dissolution.
>>80624338
>founded in 300
Then what church were Peter, Linus, Anacletus, Clement I, Evaristus, Alexander I, Sixtus I, Telesphorus, Hyginus, Pius I, Anicetus, Soter, Eleuterus, Victor I, Zephyrinus, Callixtus I, Urban I, Pontain, Anterus, Fabian, Cornelius, Lucius I, Stephen I ,Sixtus II, Dionysius, Felix I, Eutychian, Caius, Marcellinus, Marcellus I, Eusebius, and Miltiades the leader of?
>>80624628
Worships God's mommy.
Makes fun of people for having mommy fetishes.
Can't track IDs.
>>80615214
How old is your imaginary friend: The Thread.
>>80624647
Er, that would make you a Catholic.
>>80623732
Dude don't flatter yourself. It's embarrassing not accepting obvious defeat. You had a nice run but it's over. Happened to every empire that ever existed.
>>80624377
No.
The Undivided Church from which Romans/Catholics split is the Orthodox
We follow the exact same teachings they followed.
Catholics don't, they changed the rules.
And it is even more proven by the endless factions that continued to split away from catholics, while ours don't split.
>>80624520
Following this argument, you're not a christian if you follow anu Church of the council of chalcedon
>>80615214
>If you're not a Catholic why even claim to be a Christian?
Catholics pray to Mary. Protestants claim to Jesus. Why do you pedofags claim to be Christian?
>>80624778
>implying you're not all equally sick
>>80624799
Is this bait or are you actually this stupid?
>>80624705
Christian churches. A bunch of little Christian churches. Spread out all over. United by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in all of the born again Christians.
You want the Roman Empire? Be a Catholic. You want the Byzantine Empire? Be Orthodox.
You want to go to heaven? You must be born again.
>>80624799
Eternal.
>>80615214
is occultism a religion?
>>80624823
Who's your president again?
>>80624866
Catholics: 95% lost.
Orthodox: 95% lost
You're the same as each other; you're competing pagan cults.
>>80625040
>Implying there is no cure.
>>80624635
You are literally wrong, by all definitions Atheism is a lack of belief
>>80625093
Many different ones, sure. All demonic.
Church of Christ 1AD
>>80625176
Flame tends to absolve sin.
>>80623882
Read the Bible and tell me how Catholics follow it best
>>80625067
>gets "born again"
>gets an abortion and has sex the next day
>never goes to confession
I GO TO HEAVEN RIGHT GUYS? SOLA FIDE!!!!
>>80625216
occultism isn't all demonic silly, you can evoke/invoke angels just as you can demons.
>>80625209
What is a "lack of belief"?
Why are you ashamed to say that you don't know if there's a God or not?
Or are you foolish enough to say there is none?
>>80625134
>I'll pull some statistics out of my ass, that will show him.
Fucking americans.
>>80625252
No, it doesn't. Flames are not the cure. Flames are for keeping people who hate being bored busy.
>>80625268
Here's an excerpt
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/James-2-14_2-26/
>>80620970
Based Mexico
>>80615214
>belonging to a church
>not just reading the kjv by yourself
>>80625278
Your "righteousness" will not get you into heaven, and once saved, your sins will not keep you out.
>>80625364
You claim that they do not cure, although those exposed thend not to sin in future.
>>80625296
Demons are angels.
All angels in contact with people in the occult are demons.
Follow this logic very carefully.
Demons lie.
>>80625313
That was a typo.
Orthodox: 94% lost.
>>80625462
People in eternal torment, on fire, sin continuously. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit does not go away.
>>80625306
It just means you don't believe in a God. If you think about it in a binary way, you either do believe in a God, which could be any of the 1700+ believed in human history or you don't believe in any God.
>Why are you ashamed to say that you don't know if there's a God or not?
Not the guy you talked to originally, i'm happy to say we don't know whether there is a God or not, I think most Atheists are
>Or are you foolish enough to say there is none?
I wouldn't make a claim I couldn't prove, though I would be happy to rule out any modern or old religions Gods existing in the form described in their scripture
>>80618819
Why is Anonymus at Judaism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymus_(chronicler)
>>80625445
So what happens if you're "saved" and then you openly renounce Jesus Christ? Do you still get to go to Heaven? I have too many brain cells to be a Protestant. I'm sorry.
>>80625590
That is why I recommend the employment of its more cleansing properties here on earth.
>>80625500
i lost a single brain cell from reading that
I get that atheism is represented by degenerates and seems degenerate, but wtf do I do if I want to be a Christian, but I genuinely do not believe in god?
>>80625654
But you're content to hold a worldview with zero upside.
Is that smart?
>>80625806
Study physics and philosophy untill you do
>>80625109
We have a prime minister.
>Murican dukatyon
>>80625689
Once you're saved, you have the Holy Spirit living in you; you're in the Father's hand; and Jesus Himself is your advocate.
Nobody's prying you out of that situation, not even you.
If you want to go to hell, don't get saved because there's no way out. You'll be stuck in eternal joy forever, and nobody will set you on fire forever.
>>80625905
>he missed the point this hard
Thanks for proving my point
>>80625445
"Once saved always saved" is just an excuse for being lazy.
>>80625707
Keep reading it 82 more times then.
>>80625887
Interesting advice.
>>80625826
>But you're content to hold a worldview with zero upside.
If you're talking about an afterlife, then yeah i'm content with there not being one
Doesn't matter if its smart, I prefer what is true, and for me I cannot see the truth in any religion.
Probably not any point in us debating this because we won't agree.
>>80625905
You need an Accounts Payable department.
>>80626009
Legitimately it might sound like 'draw the rest of the owl' but it's the best I can give you.
>>80616304
>>80615214
It's funny you don't post religions that were present before catholicism, because I believe on Zeus and Athena
>>80625972
Nobody filled with the Holy Spirit is lazy. He's a very busy person and quite persuasive.
If you pass up the best deal in the universe, it's on you, not Him.
>>80624635
Yes and also if collecting stamps is "A" then not collecting stamps is also "-A"
But before stamps were invented people would still be "not stamp collectors" because they don't collect stamps you see, so at first there was "null" then "A" came along and "null" became "-A".
You could argue that people can't be "not stamp collectors" without becoming aware that such a thing as "stamps" exist, but what is the actual difference between "I'm the not doer of everything that I'm currently not doing" and "I'm the doer of all the things I'm currently doing" since the result of both is the exact same.
>>80626015
You can't be content with there not being one.
You can only be content with being completely unprepared for one.
>>80615718
>Orthodox Master Religion - 33
>Cuckatholic - 1054
he thinks he's catholic!
>>80616304
Atheism has existed from the moment humans could think. so probably 3.000.000.000 BC
>>80625209
To have no beliefs about something is different from not believing in it. If I don't ever tell you about George, the magical Goblin who lives in my underpants, then you will no beliefs about George. Once I tell you about him, you will believe something, even if it's only to believe that George likely doesn't exist (and I require mental health services).
A "lack of belief" isn't Atheism, it's fucking Zen. It's the absence of a form of cognition. If you're an Atheist, God isn't something you've never thought about, it's a concept you've explicitly rejected.
>>80626085
Really just Hellenized Adam and Semiramis.
Older then Christianity.
Pagon.
>>80626085
Build hadrian's wall
>>80626191
>yfw the earth is only 6000 years old.
Matthew 23:9King James Version (KJV)
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
>>80626213
I won't have a lack of belief about your underwear George; I'll say he does not exist. There is no underwear George.
Being an atheist is making a positive claim whether you like it or not.
>>80626385
>Making no claim is making a claim
I don't think you understand how logic and the burden of proof work, burger.
>>80625064
I'm serious.
And it's funny to see you call me stupid.
How many virgins do you get in your fairy tale once you're dead?
>>80619158
>Current pope is pure cancer
FTFY
>All those heretics and schiismatics butturting about One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church
Glorious.
But seriously, salvation is not for you, fags.
I'm an atheist but the smugness of protestants drives me crazy because theyre the ones who want to die for Israel and willingly go there in order to work for them. And yet theyll say catholics are cucks but voluntarily cuck themselves for the Jews
>>80616952
Scism wasn't a foundation of a any new churches.
>>80626191
>3.000.000.000 BC
Human as we know it barely have 15,000 years existing, dude, I don't think apes had religions.
>>80616304
Judaism is older than christianity dumbass
>>80626213
>If you're an Atheist, God isn't something you've never thought about, it's a concept you've explicitly rejected.
Yes but that means no person can actually have a lack of belief. Since the moment you ask someone if they believe in god they instantly become either or, since it's a yes or no question, unless it's not actually a yes or no question but actually more like on a scale of 0 to 100 how much do you believe in god, which just makes the terms atheist and theist kinda stupid, since both sides would be retards because believing in something 100% without even a tiny shadow of a doubt is fucking stupid.
>>80626664
John 14:6
>>80625967
What point? That we're irrelevant? That's not even banter for me to mention it. You're trying so hard.
>>80625445
So basically this means that you can be a mass-murdering rapist pedophile but since you were "born again" that's okay, you're still a good person.
If it doesn't, try to explain, properly, how it doesn't. This has always been my biggest issue with most forms of protestantism - the kneejerk reaction to ostentatious and vain forms of virtue signalling by denouncing all good works as worthless, and leading to the worst kind of behavior from supposedly christ-like individuals.
>>80626808
So orthodox and catholic churches are exactly the same?
>>80626126
>if collecting stamps is "A" then not collecting stamps is also "-A"
You're conflating an process "collecting stamps" with a claim "God exists". Claims can be inverted through simple logic, i.e. "God does not exist". Processes have to inverted via inverse processes, i.e. "selling stamps" or "distributing stamps".
>>80621650
You're a mixed race mongrel, shut the fuck up
>>80625967
Are you a fucking liberal, yankscum?
He was clearly talking about America and not Greece. You trying to call his country irrelevant, when he already knows that, is fucking retarded - so retarded that only a liberal would be retarded enough to believe that.
Go fuck yourself yankee.
>>80626593
I walked you through it. Hopefully teaching you how to build a wall will be more effective.
>>80626385
Great, now George is crying and my undies are soaked.
>>80626791
Jesus is a Jew.
>>80626886
Bullshit. Read the proto-evangelion. Read about Abraham and Isaac. Read Job.
>>80626611
Not arguing existence, but saying your comprehension skills are shit. We are talking about sects not Gods fucknut.
>>80627021
Peter didn't found any church in Rome; Peter was killed by Rome.
And Peter called Rome "Babylon", which it was then, and remains today.
>>80627058
They are two halfs of the same church that went different ways.
>>80627044
There are no good people.
Only God is good.
Once you get that through your head, we'll talk.
>>80627474
Two cults; two legs on the same doomed statue.
>>80615214
More followers of the human Joshua?
>>80627313
That explain why all catholic churches always ask for monies
>>80626933
>Yes but that means no person can actually have a lack of belief.
Sure they can, but it's like the Zen state of "no mind", or the concept of [spoiler] The Game. [/spoiler]
>>80627608
More followers of the angel lucifer?
>>80627620
Ever been to the Vatican? Easily the richest per capita country on earth.
Most catholic nations? Eaily the poorest per capita countries on earth.
>>80627044
according to protestants "all sins are equal". and the bible says we're all sinners. so having sex with a dead body is no more reprehensible than lying and telling a pregnant girl she doesn't look fat.
>>80615304
Martin Luther was a Catholic.
There were Christians from Pentecost 32 AD to the present day.
>>80627828
And breaking the Law at one point is breaking the Law at all points; Anon is a rapist and a murderer and blissfully unaware of his own status.
>>80627178
But how do you define a stamp collector?
Is my little brother who collected stamps 10 years ago a stamp collector, even though he hasn't touched them in years? If I just have a ton of stamps lying around because I used to send mail?
Where do you draw the line?
I wouldn't call my little brother a stamp collector and neither would he, but he has done nothing to inverse the process
>>80627626
Does forgetting about something mean the same as having a lack of belief?
If I forget about god am I still an atheist or do I go to the "null" state until my memory is refreshed?
>>80627602
the doomed statue being christianity as a whole?
>>80627474
Luther was also a catholic until he went his own way.
>>80628056
Lutheran like the church of England didn't mantain valid apostolic succession or the various forms and governance thereof. Creating a new hierarchy and diverting from orthadox theology (not I said "orthadox" not "Orthadox")
>>80627432
Wait? There is a difference?
You are talking about trekkies vs warsies, and your point is "no matter if the klingons exist, we want to know who tells it first". What a knowledge.
>>80626977
TYBB
>>80627258
Are you feeling well?
>>80627453
lol what?
Whore of Babylon from revalations? The book written by St. John after the Catholic Church was founded? Like many books in the new Testament.
Pls do go on
>>80626886
Archaic Judaism, the religion of the nation of Judah, is older than Christianity. However, today's Judaism is Talmudic Judaism. No one practices archaic Judaism anymore. Talmudic Judaism can, at best, only be traced back to around 200 AD. However, since a significant portion of the Talmud wasn't written until around 500 AD, that date is more accurate.
Many Jewish scholars would argue that as the Talmud is the written form of the Traditions of the Elders which date back to the Babylonian captivity, so that period should properly be considered the beginning of Talmudic Judaism. However, Talmudic Judaism is text based. It strongly stresses the study of the Talmud as a central component of their practices, i.e. Talmudic Judaism really can't exist until the Talmud is completed.
Christianity, by contrast, is tradition based not text based and explicitly predates the compilation of the Bible in the 3rd century.
>>80628056
>Luther was also a catholic until he went his own way.
Lutherans rejected the entire validity of the catholic church and created a new one from the ground up.
Orthodox never challenged the pope's authority as archbishop of rome. Only his authority over the other archbishops.
>>80628056
>Is my little brother who collected stamps 10 years ago a stamp collector, even though he hasn't touched them in years?
If he still possess a collection, then he is still a collector, even though he is not active. He's a lapsed stamp collector.
>Does forgetting about something mean the same as having a lack of belief?
Only until you're reminded of it.
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