So lads, how does it feel knowing May is going to ban this site? I have a very bad feeling that we'll probably all be getting visits from the fuzz in the early mornings just because we're 4channers, wouldn't be surprised if we get jumped and shoved into the party van.
We can only hope that Reddit and Tumblr get banned because even though they do have porn aren't entirely dedicated to porn which will cause all the underages and liberal faggots to throw a tantrum and eventually force the government to reverse the decision.
Andrea Leadsom Makes Her Case To Be PM
https://audioboom.com/boos/4767097-listen-andrea-leadsom-makes-her-case-to-be-pm
>Telegraph asks Tory leadership candidates the same set of questions
http://archive.is/OFCvY
>Peter Brookes on Tory leadership race
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F4c87c320-3ef4-11e6->>a77d-3f49e917730f.jpg?crop=2727,1818,575,185&resize=758 (embed)
>Putin dares Britain to go through with Brexit. “We will see how their principles of democracy get realised in practice".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/putin-dares-britain-to-go-through-with-brexit/
>Tory leadership: Gove 'standing out of conviction not ambition'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36679741
>Corbyn to face challenge 'in days', says John McDonnell
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36680463
>meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHMYNM46Fw
alice>karen
fight me
Given recent events, does Gove remind anyone of pic related?
First for anyone but UKIP
>>79557062
We don't watch cartoons
>>79556702
Boy I sure am glad I'm free from your tyranny
>Baldeagle.jpg
>>79556702
Gove was abandoned by his parents. There is obviously all manner of neurosis bubbling under the surface.
>>79557137
pls no bully
>>79557077
BANKER'S HELICOPTERS
>>79557077
What the hell???? I hate ukip now
>>79557137
Actually, most of us do m8.
It's the only thing keeping us from slipping into further depression.
What exactly happened with Boris and Grove? Can anyone catch me up quickly
>>79557166
(THE NSA HAS DETECTED AN ILLEGAL POST)
>mfw a filthy weeb posts anime near me
>>79557231
"no"
>>79557231
Let's see
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650728
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650728
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650728
>>79557166
Just wait until Clinton wins and she changes the demographics to the point where the GOP will never win again, forces gun control down your throat and pushes a diversity narrative just like Trudeau's.
How can anyone not be backing mummy at this point?
>>79557322
You're not taking my 4chan from me you old swine.
>>79556702
The defense for Mummy is that it was """"three years ago"""" and she didn't realize Cameron would come away with nothing or that the EU was impossible to reform.
>>79557322
[CLANG]
(don't watch the new Berserk, lads)
>>79557137
>We don't watch cartoons
You do realise you're posting on a Chinese cartoon image board.
Wait, I thought you guys voted to leave the EU. Why haven't you left yet?
>>79557341
it's brexit all over again
>>79557236
Gove was running Boris's leadership campaign until the morning of Boris's formal launch when he suddenly threw Boris under the bus saying he wasn't the right man and stood for leadership himself.
We're not gonna leave the EU and deep down we all know it.
>>79557377
Gawd bless her.
>>79557231
Speak for yourself weebshit.
Reposting in jew bread.
The main problem we have is that some of those who follow the more threatening forms of Islam are abusing that fact to access the western world and gain influence within it. It's hard to trust any of them.
Plus the children of Muslim immigrants are taking up the the cause of the tyranny their parents were in many cases attempting to escape.
I don't want to become Lebanon 2.0 but I think it might be or is nearing an inevitability. I at least don't think it will be quite so violent but the end result is the same. We're in rapid cultural decline and no one is talking about it. In fact many are cheering it.
>>79557448
Too late
>>79557236
Boris manipulated Grove into announcing his candidature so that he could play the victim and have a good reason not to run for PM since he doesn't want to catch the fallout of Brexit
Boris is the smartest man in UK
>>79557509
Yeah and on top of that we're gonna be arrested for browsing 4chan and our terabytes of K-On porn will be confiscated and used to justify banning assault anime.
>>79557322
pls no bulli
>>79557227
>BANKER'S HELICOPTERS
Always nice to meet a fellow UKIP-hating patriot in this place.
Who are we backing in the Labour leadership race?
Gove is kinda cute
nohomo
>>79557468
The government have to begin the formal process of leaving, which takes two years. When this process should be begun is currently up for debate. Probably it'll happen in Autumn.
>>79557052
>alice > karen
>gonorrhoea > herpes
either way they're both shit and noone really wants either
>>79557614
Milliband from behind
>>79557642
Oh ok, thanks
Can someone now tell me what a ukips is?
>>79557322
Deal with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28sF2-amfMI
daily mail is doing hitpieces on Leadsom and fluff pieces on May
>>79557052
Why not both?
>>79557727
I miss his leadership. Times were simple then.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/andrea-leadsom-interview-thatcher-god-and-why-i-should-be-prime/
>>79557760
The only decent party. Like the Tories but without the cuckservatism.
>>79557509
Could the fact that they ignored the referendum result be used as a defence to murdering a load of MPs?
>>79557574
>para 1: 100% true
>para 2: uhh...not so much
>>79557516
agree with most of these, though the person who made that is clearly a Labour mong as it mentions pedophiles and they love their votes.
Lads, can we meme Leadsom into winning?
>>79556702
>That Daily Mail shilling for Maykel
Sickening.
The MPs and establishment media may want that Merkel wannabe, but the people want this big-titted patriotic MILF.
>>79557945
Legally, no.
But I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me on that.
>>79557760
ukips are basically like mudkips, only without the charm and enduring appeal
>>79558083
We can sure try.
>>79556702
Please tell me May is not going to fucking win
>>79558174
>the cleavage
top kek.
Who's that emo cunt voting for? We know he's a Tory member.
>>79558224
I could, but it would be a lie.
Oh wait. You voted leave. All righty then. May is definitely not going to win.
>>79557451
I think they think this site is their personal shitposting palace
the sooner they're dead the better
>>79558083
we have to!
>The liberal democrats are protesting against democracy right now.
>>79558275
>pol guide to politics
>le dumb racist BNP amirite?!?
Why do I get the feeling this was made by redditors?
>>79558401
They're very liberal with their definition of democracy.
>>79558423
Go away Nick
>>79557062
Reunthal never wanted to lead or become leader of the empire, he just wanted to fight Rhinehard.
>>79558592
>eww get away from me nadzi!!!!
Do you know where you are, lad?
Where did all you fags who believe Brexit isn't now going to happen come from?
>>79558423
The BNP are pretty retarded tbqh. Poor man's UKIP.
Has anyone made a The_Andrea subreddit yet?
>>79558423
You're still up to these tricks? Your party's dead, Nick, get over it.
>>79557932
They're a better option for me than the alternatives but it does bother me there's so much inter party division. They really need to unify and ensure they're all in agreement on more than just telling Juncker to fuck off.
>>79558727
>wanting the NHS is retarded
>wanting britain to be white is retarded
Enjoy your 50,000, lad.
>>79558710
Reddit. They're basically Remainers in denial trying to depress the rest of us
>>79558747
>tfw BNP got 1,667 votes in 2015 in the whole country.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
>>79558747
You got lost on your way to /r/unitedkingdom.
>>79558710
They are ex-Remainers from Plebbit and cripplechan.
>>79558845
Well, you've convincingly depressed me. So that seems fair.
>>79558423
It's basically impossible to defend them. I don't disagree with them on everything but they tended to take things a little too far and needed to understand nuance. Same problem as the NF.
>>79558854
That's because controlled opposition won. The BNP got more than half a million votes in 2010.
>>79558675
>>79558423
Brit/pol/ is civic nationalist you twat.
Go to the other chan if you want to circle jerk about muh race etc.
>>79558802
UKIP want both of those.
>>79559011
UKIP literally virtue signal.
>>79557614
There isn't going to be a labour contest.
It needs a candidate with 51 signatures to trigger one, however there are so many ego diven MPs trying to get those signatures for themselves it is mathematically impossible for any MP to get more than about 30 of those as nearly all of them want to vote for themselves.
It's like when the Brethren Court try to elect a king of the pirates in Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End.
Have you accepted we're not leaving yet, lads?
>>79559167
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-nhs-might-have-to-be-replaced-by-private-health-insurance-9988904.html
>>79559197
>literally virtue signal
Welcome to politics you dumb fuck
>>79559076
You wish, Carswell.
>>79559167
>UKIP, a self declared Thatcherite party, want the NHS
>Nigel "Pakistanis before Poles" Farage wants Britain to be white
Nice memes.
>>79558738
Yes, lad. Someone has. You did.
Now make it into a decent sub.
>>79559076
Civic nationalism is about as nationalist as the SNP.
>PEOPLE CAN'T CHANGE THEIR MINDS OR THEY'RE HYPOCRITS!!!!
Isn't that the whole point of debate?
>>79559288
It's a shame the right/leave voters are far to polite and respectful (also have better things to do) than cause a big fuss and protest etc if we don't leave
>>79558845
Redditors tend to post long winded posts without actually saying a damn thing, the ones that get the most upvotes studied English or some various none subject and pander to muh feelings. Can't stand the place.
>>79559288
Accepted it about 40 years ago mate.
>#EUisHotelCalifornia
>>79558802
Wanting the NHS as it is now is retarded yes. Immigration and everything aside it's in need of serious reform.
Personally I think it should cover less and allow the private sector to deal with the less serious health issues. Too many people go to their GP for every little cold. I don't know why the concept of privatisation is so terrifying to people. A lot of people don't have an NHS dentist and they get by.
>>79559301
But he's fucking right. If the EU is a failed state the NHS is a failed system.
>>79557377
Based
I've been reading into the other candidates, Iron Ange over here seems to be the most wholesome person in British politics (other than St. Nigel, peace be upon him)
I hope when I get arrested for being on /pol/ when May wins, that if I share a cell with anyone else from brit/pol/ that they are not a sweaty neckbeard that watches anime.
Okay guys, give me a quick rundown of who will be PM and how pro Brexit and anti-immigration they are.
I already know about the slut who wants to ban anime but I don't know how likely any of that is.
>>79559076
fuck off cuck. I don't think BNP is the best way to do it, but britain needs to be white.
>>79559468
The BNP would have deported the wogs and kept a white only NHS. UKIP will keep running it until it crashes with no survivors and we have American tier $1,000 a pill healthcare.
>>79557614
>Chile
ROOOOOOOOOO
>>79559446
Peter Hitchens is a cuck.
>>79559472
Your grammar-fu is not strong. Try that again without the if and we'll talk.
>>79559419
A Brit can be black white or purple as long as he's loyal to this country he can breed my daughter.
>>79559535
Get them off the anime by enticing them with your boipucci
>>79559609
Literally no one else will do it. UKIP are just thatcherism.
>>79559437
Almost makes me want to create a fake black twitter account of my own. Wonder how far it's possible to push it, before they catch on.
>>79559197
What? Do you understand what virtue signalling is?
There's a very narrow middle ground in modern politics that gets very narrow to the right of centre. Like it or not you have to be aware of that and temper your views accordingly if you want any hope of gaining enough support.
>>79559645
>mfw reading this
What's Peter's email? I want to ask him something.
>>79558710
Mad redditors and non-deported foreigners
>>79559706
UKIP aren't perfect but they have a chance at success. The BNP are dead and aren't coming back.
>>79559602
Theresa is a Remainiac so there's no chance in hell she gets elected.
>>79559777
>what is the overton window
Good goy. Control the narrative.
>>79559602
PM will be either May or Leadsom, Gove can't win against May and the other 2 will be knocked out first before they get a chance.
Leadsom is pro-brexit and wants to end free movement
>>79559602
Please respond
>>79559706
>>79559837
This, hopefully right wing nationalism will surge along with UKIP and then we can see about deporting the darkies. BNP has no chance
>>79559837
The BNP are dead and civic nationalist UKIP killed them.
>>79559782
Much shitposting. Zero value. Well, I suppose when you consider the kind of people we sent there, it's only to be expected.
>>79559842
She said Brexit means Brexit though.
>>79557322
Its true. All of it.
>>79559076
Not really. Most of us would put native brits before any other even if we're happy to accept some Singhs and Pajeets in limited number. It's quite sad that civic nationalism is the only kind of nationalism able to get any traction these days.
>>79557208
TAKE BACK CONTROL
>>79559956
Still doesn't stand a chance. The negotiations that will take Britain out should at least be chaired by someone who supported leaving.
Hopefully Farage gets in on those negotiations.
>>79559946
>Make argument that NHS is failed state
>Disregard it because of flag
>I'm the shitposter
>He doesn't realise British people can go on holiday
I'm Welsh, and the NHS is as failed as the EU
>>79559602
http://archive.is/OFCvY
from op. basically two of them are snakes who'd say fooking anything.
>>79560014
She said she'd create a Ministry of Brexit and put someone who supported leave in charge.
>>79559842
http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2016/07/whos-backing-who-our-running-list-of-mps-supporting-each-leadership-candidate.html
>May 102
>Leadsom 22
No, you're totally right there.
>>79560080
Is there a general preference among Brit/pol/ on who to support?
>>79559881
I don't see how the Overton window disputes what I've said. It's just a term used for the observation I'm making. Do you dispute it?
>>79560069
>Make argument that NHS is failed state
I think that right there is why I'm disregarding anything you have to say. Apart from as a source of amusement in these barren times.
>>79560117
Looks like the Milky Bars won't be on me, I put a Tenner on Leadsom to be PM.
>>79559989
Any other nationalism is racist bullshit and Britain is ethnically and culturally diverse now. We're a melting pot whether you like it or not.
>>79557377
She is so based
>Mrs Leadsom says: “I am a very committed Christian. I think my values and everything I do is driven by that. It’s very important to me. I actually study the Bible in Parliament with a group of colleagues and I do go to church but I am not a regular. There’s the cross party Christians in parliament group and there are various Bible studies groups, which I find incredibly helpful.”
Shame she did this interview in the Torygraph, though. I imagine May's campaign team are already in the process of getting it pulled down because it makes May look bad (being unChristian, unconservative, unattractive and infertile, unlike based fecund Andrea).
>>79560117
She's backed by remainer tories, of course she's in the lead. Things will level when the chosen opposition is established.
>>79560151
Leadsom. But they're all fairly shit. I wish Moggy had run.
>>79560151
MUMMY would extend our bedtime.
>>79559468
If you knew anything about how the nhs is run, you would know that that has already happened. Many minor surgeries are no longer covered by the nhs, ie those that are considered cosmetic like growth removal. This extends to ailments like hernias, which are currently untreated until they progress to a worse state.
>>79558083
I don't know how to do that in England. I don't speak Arabic.
>>79560244
>We're a melting pot whether you like it or not.
Muh Diversity
>Muh Multiculturalism
>Please gib upboats.
>>79560170
The way you change people's opinion isn't by virtue signalling and pandering, it's by saying what you want and pulling people to that ideology.
Take Trump, before him only few fringe nutters cared about the southern border, now most Americans do.
UKIP hailing diversity won't change anything.
>>79560373
You can't win an election otherwise. It sucks but that's the reality.
>>79560117
Leadsom is saving up support announcements til Monday
>>79559931
The BNP stunted themselves. They were never going to gain significant popular support. At least not without tempering some of their policies and making some concessions, even then they'd be tarred with their history which the public would be constantly reminded of.
>>79560406
Nick Frost has lost some weight!
Would England support a Catalonia who voted for independence?
>>79560565
Sure, why not?
>>79560467
source?
>>79560281
>>79560467
330 tory MPs
176 declared
154 yet to declare
Man she'd better be storing up one fuckload of announcements.
>>79560151
Golden rule: ANYONE but May.
There were Gove and Andrea factions, but people have recently been migrating over to "mummy". Mail on Sunday column (see OP) has created a few doubters though.
>>79560406
This guy is like a conservative andy burnham.
>>79560565
We don't really care.
>>79560565
That would be hilarious, especially if the EU was still around
>>79560565
That would make the Scots overdose on Sodium . . .go for it.
>>79560670
>Gibraltar
>>79560667
Kek
>>79560565
What would an independent Catalonia give to Britain that Spain as a whole couldn't?
>>79560653
She only needs to get to the second round you retard
>>79560635
pic related, guardian
>>79560565
Scotland would implode kek
>>79560738
You can have it back m8. Bunch of fucking traitors.
>>79560485
Look at their election history, they were doihg well until UKIP, the controlled opposition, came on the scene.
UKIP are thatcherite, meaning they support private enterprise and dislike the NHS.
The BNP were national socialist, meaning they wanted no immigration and the NHS. Which are exactly the views of the majority of the British people.
The only reason the BNP declined was le radist may may and the rise of controlled opposition.
>>79560738
Whatever would we do without a rock and some monkeys?
>>79557377
Based.
It's pathetic how the Fail is trying to construct a campaign against her while backing that cunt May, who Remain supporter the entire time.
>>79560655
So what did Boris in, other than being pro-immigration?
>>79560891
>UKIP are thatcherite, meaning they support private enterprise and dislike the NHS.
Sounds like UKIP are way better, commie scum.
Looking forward to a Brit-free 4chan.
>>79557077
>muh Queen
Too bad the Queen will be no longer around next week.
First Brexit, then no PM, and then no Queen. Brits literally on suicide watch.
>>79560891
Most of UKIP are pro-NHS. The party forced Nige to back down after he talked about privatization.
>>79560831
>get to the second round
Where she will be soundly beaten by the 'who the fuck is that?' vote.
>How may Tories had heard of Leadsom before this week?
>How many had heard of May?
>>79561009
Privatisation is only for non homogenous societies, such as the 63% white US, National socialism could have worked, but we needed rid of the wogs.
>>79559437
I occasionally lurk subreddits for oddly specific subjects. The general news/politics etc are all fucking terrible. However my biggest problem with it is the design is fucking terrible desu
>>79560398
Utter bullshit. Trump isn't saying anything really that controversial for Republican politics. There are some not insignificant differences but he's still utilising many of the existing pillars. Trying to compare him to the BNP is wholly inaccurate.
The BNP couldn't even gain the support of all the countries 'racists' because it was so focused on its working class image. It was a farce.
>>79561056
"No"
Most of UKIP recognise you can't insult muh NHS none of them actually like it.
>>79560926
>what did Boris in...?
Gove, with a knife in the back.
>>79561263
And they did well in the working class, before le racist meme and controlled opposition UKIP ruined them.
>>79561194
>National socialism could have worked
I don't care what the skin color of the faggot who wants me to pay for all his shit is.
>>79560151
Leadsom is best. Gove and Fox would be acceptable. Crabb is literal who and May is Jeb tier.
>>79561009
>>79561455
Fuck off yank
>>79561455
That's because you're an American and have only even known living in a melting pot.
The NHS, minus wogs and pakis, boob jobs and trans shit = a perfect system.
>>79560406
Vote Crabb for the great leap sideways!
>>79561015
pff, we take a large chunk of butthurt shitposters off your back ingrate.
>>79561651
>sideways
Optimistic, I'd say.
Has anyone seen this video from todays protest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=262&v=bqHwXWa3tH4
fucking hell, my blood pressure
>>79561405
The simple truth is that they never could have succeeded. UKIP aren't even ethnic nationalists and they still have a hard time with all the shit lefties throw at them. Hopefully once it becomes socially acceptable to support UKIP they'll make the transition from civic nationalism.
Leadsome is 3/1 according to the bookies.
That's not impossible, lads. Brexit happening was 8/1 just before the results started to roll in.
>>79561684
Oh look, it's the 'ethnicity don't real' meme.
>>79561863
>You are destroying our lives
lol
What a fucking retarded bint
>>79560891
The racist mey mey is a powerful one that was significantly limiting their potential their history and many of their members gave constant confirmation of the racism claims. UKIP have managed to weather it far better because of this.
UKIP I fear might well have hit it's ceiling but the BNP's was far below.
>>79557305
Lol the NSA watches the rest of the world more than American citizens, and as long as your not actually gonna commit a terrorist act, your literally a moron to worry about it.
>>79560344
I'm fully aware of that and encourage more of it.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
>>79561863
>take that to Jo Cox's children
>>79561863
These remainers just can't see it.
We are not rejecting Europe or the world, we are rejecting the EU and opening up to the world with trade.
>>79561194
Not really. You'd also need to undo decades of individualist thought and on top of that have to contend with the stigma of Hitler and the NSDAP. It could never work.
So what does Gideon do now?
>>79562309
The minute and mundane details of ordinary peoples lives were enough to perpetuate the police state in East Germany.
>>79561863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqFUEkOCOf4
Here's a funny one
>>79560225
Kek go back to plebbit lad
>>79562516
They mainly think we've left Europe for some reason, but the only thing we've done is leave a European parliament, they are truly fucking stupid, they don't understand it.
>>79562880
>bongos
SHUT IT DOWN
>>79562880
She was surprisingly reasonable.
>>79561405
>le racist meme ruined them
Exactly. That's never going to go away. Communism wouldve worked if people didnt need to eat as the BNP might have succeeded if they werent called racist. Their weakness to the le racist meme is exactly why they were never going to make it, a fundamental flaw. They're never going to stop using that against you so you have to be resilient to it. They weren't because of their history and their members.
>>79562747
Probably time he retired
>>79556702
Leadsom is prime waifu material
>>79563251
That gif
>>79557451
I thought it was a Tibetan Weaver's discussion board
>>79562880
here's an actual feelgood video from Andrew Neil and the newsnight team, top lads, shame I can't find the actual source.
https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/748665017331945472
>>79562747
He`s backing Gove, he`ll probably keep his job if Gove gets in, I wouldn`t mind, he hasn`t done a bad job.
>>79563229
But clearly retarded, you should realise that the majority of people going to this protest don't know what the fuck they're protesting for and are just going because their friends told them to.
>>79561961
I wouldn't have a problem with civic nationalism if we hadn't let so many in over the last couple decades. That's the sad part. Mass immigration has forced me to become more extreme. We're in for a world of shit even if we stop it all tomorrow.
>>79563396
He really hasn't. Plus I want to see him squirm out of all the shit he said while dealing with all the shit leaving caused.
>>79563022
They're xenophiles. They love everyones culture but their own.
>>79563396
>hasn't done a bad job
Far from done a good one.
Does anybody know about those polls which say that (apparently,) 1.2 or 1.4 million people regretted voting for leave? sounds like bullshit desu
Zulu streamer from yesterday here. There's going to be a three-day marathon of Hello! Kiniro Mosaic, where 4 episodes will be livestreamed each day at 8PM GMT-5. First 4 episodes will start streaming in 10 minutes. Feel free to join us.
Link: https://streamchan.org/#channel2
MPC/MPV: rtmp://stream1.streamchan.org/live/channel2.flv
>>79563912
Absolute fucking bollocks, lad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2Hio6F-8E
So tolerant :^)
>>79556702
>Celebrate leaving EU because of censorship
>May is going to make it worse
>mfw my mum actually believes "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear"
More thoughts of Barry Chuckle?
>>79563912
If you hear any "stat or fact" from a leftists mouth without them sending you to a reputable source then its more than likely absolute bullshit
They always lie.
>>79560117
Do you not understand how elections in the conservative party works?
>>79560669
The guys literally a manlet
Too late for this malarkey, I'm off to bed. Night lads.
>>79557137
>We don't watch cartoons
>get friend's dad to fix PC
>drop in car I am Leave and he is Remain
>get it home and it's slow as shit
well fuck that's another poor decision and £100 wasted on a GTX750ti. Everything's so slow and unresponsive now, feel like I should switch back to my 295.
>>79564093
>Dan Glass at 3:05
I might have known that HIV ridden sodomite would be at the centre of things.
>>79564378
The funny part is you freaks don't realize we're not joking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APK6paZZCgs
lol
These people are fucking loopy
>>79563987
>Elie Wiesel all over Twitter
>no mention of him being a confirmed lier with limited credibility
>>79563912
It's bullshit. Polls sample like 2k people at most. Shit like that is BS from butthurt remainers trying to justify trying to ignore the referndum
>>79561863
Jo would be proud she made a stand.
>>79564093
>we are the 48%
Do these people not understand how any of this shit works?
>>79564093
I hope whoever wins raises tuition fees just to spite them. It won't effect them because few of them will ever earn enough to pay back their loans but they'd still be butthurt about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjnwe1FrlNY
>I don't believe in growth
>>79564960
That explains why they always act like children
>>79564960
What a farce, great entertainment.
>>79564960
Literally selling democracy bit by bit so they don't have to spend an hour at most applying for a visa
>>79564237
hear Sweep got involved after yours of living in Sooty's jewish shadow.
>>79564933
I hope so too, I really hope the youth suicide rates increase too, I am so ashamed of my generation.
>>79565308
*years. time for bed.
Question: if you could ban all young people from voting, but had to include yourself, would you?
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>>79565305
That's not even why they're mad. That's just one of the excuses they're spinning. They are mad because they literally believe the EU is Europe and that by leaving the EU we are building a giant wall all the way around England and writing "Europeans stay out" on it.
>>79564093
Last week was an amazing week and it's been a long time since I actually felt proud to be British, but now people like this are just making me feel down and depressed. It's giving me a really bad feeling like it's not going to really happen.
>>79565446
Yep.
Although it wouldnt make much of a difference since only 36% of them voted.
>>79565446
I'm not going to reduce myself to the level of those who would ban old people, even if it would benefit me.
>>79564933
The best thing anyone could possibly do is, since we have so much demand in specific areas that we need to import Pakistani intellectuals, raise the tuition fees for all "non-essential" courses and drop the fees for (subsidise) essential shit like STEM fields and essential medical work.
Would gain support of socialists and anally ruin any liberal arts majors in the process
>Brexit would be a disaster
So why does /pol/ like Leadsom again?
>>79565321
I might help with that. Only got a couple years before I'm out of the demographic though and I'm clinging on.
>>79565446
Nope because I believe in democracy. If I had lost I would have legit been okay with it and in fact many that have lost are actually okay with it right now. However thanks to London being incredibly loud and in your face and all the newspapers and media outlets being biased in favour of remain they are making it seem like much bigger a deal than it actually is. They put their fucking fingers in their ears and go "LA LA LA LA LA" when you even try to bring up the lies that were told to the remain side to get them to vote in.
>>79565553
If its any consolation our relationship with the EU is dead, so all we have to do at this point is trigger article 50.
Go to bed earlier too, I've noticed my sleep pattern has been shit this week and Im starting to feel drained, sleep always helps.
P.s. Take solace in the fact that we won in the first place, these people didn't get to shape this countries future.
>>79565521
>just when you thought Labour couldn't prove to be more cancerous
>they go and have a Chllcot report
>and totally redeem their cancerous selves.
>>79564960
He's right to be fair, macro-economists put too much emphasis on growth when it's an extremely shit and poor measure of economic activity..
>>79565681
Suicide is the enemy.
Theres always something worth living for, thats why you're still alive. Don't throw it away, please.
>>79565446
Voting age should be 21 again.
>>79565656
Because she doesn't believe that.
>>79566118
Then why does it say it in big bold letters?
>>79566027
how about people? are they a good measure?
>>79565553
Truth be told I kind of hope it doesn't happen. As people have said, this whole debacle has really brought the class division into the spotlight and I think we are in desperate need of a good old dust up. You have to physically fight for what you believe in sometimes not just to remind yourself that sometimes words will fall on deaf ears but to remind yourselves that your enemies are still human. This especially goes for them, so I'm not trying to sound like a bleeding heart. They earnestly do not believe the people that voted out are real people with jobs and families, they just think they are racist monsters lurking in the shadows, looming over their candy.
>>79566083
Everything should be 21
>>79566083
It seems like a bad idea to make it 16 at least.
>>79556702
Will this newspaper hurt Leadsoms campaign do you think?
Another win for kek.
>>692709477
>Question: if you could ban all young people from voting, but had to include yourself, would you?
I have long maintained, even as a member of the age group, that people under 25 should not be able to vote.
The vast majority have never had a real job, never had kids, never owned a home, never really paid taxes, have no life experience, have no responsibilities and have no real concerns beyond the upcoming weekend's gratification via substance use.
That may sound sour but I don't begrudge any of them their fun. Not at all. I just don't think such people have much to offer until they've grown up a bit.
Think of it this way. If you owned a business, would you let the average 18-24 year old run it? I highly doubt you would. So why should that person decide your country's future.
We're not talking about denial of democratic rights. We simply have the age cut off set at the wrong year. The left always wants things to "progress" as society changes. Ok. 18 year olds don't start households anymore. 18 year olds don't have careers and kids anymore. An 18 year old isn't an adult anymore. Therefore, no vote.
>>79566190
because Paul Dacre wants you to believe that
>>79565446
Obviously. 18 year old voting age made sense back when barely anybody went to university. Now, when half the country aren't employed until their mid twenties - if ever - it doesn't.
Ideally, I'd close down all but a dozen or so universities, and fix state education so it's not just leftist indoctrination. But if this isn't an option, voting age of (MINIMUM) 25 makes sense.
People will throw out the "but muh democracy meme", but there's can be no meaningful democracy when an entire generation feel no affinity with their own country and are voting in the interests of outsiders. Until schools start teaching people Britain is a good country and not something to be ashamed off, the youth will always vote wrongly.
>>79558098
If they pick May over her you can expect to see UKIP membership soar past the Tory party within two years.
>>79565613
I said exactly this back in college during the 2010 GE and I was intending to study one of those non-essential subjects. I had so many fucking arguments with people whining about tuition fees when it was a relatively insignificant issue. The dumb fucks kept saying that it was making it harder for poorer students despite the fact I was one of the poorest and most working class students there. It didn't affect poorer students any more than any other and if anyone chose not to go to university because of raised fees then they had no right to be there anyway, far too stupid.
You brought back bad memories. That's one of the moments I really started to hate my generation.
Overall too many people go to University who have no place being there and bright people end up wasting their intellect on worthless degrees. It makes no sense to fund that, or at the very least it makes more sense to disincentivise it.
>>79557052
I finished the first episode
Are they done with the ching chong Engrish yet?
>>79558098
>big titted
I wish
>tfw we will never have a really big boobies milf PM
>>79565321
They are increasing. People can see how miserable and futile life is in modern Britain, they just don't realize what caused it (leftism) and how to fix it (nationalism).
>>79566043
You're right but I'm too much of a pussy to grasp the things worth living for. I'm only still here because I have a supportive family and one good friend and I'm increasingly feeling like a burden.
>>79561263
>Trump isn't saying anything really that controversial for Republican politics
He's being more overt about it in a way they dislike.
For a while, Republicans would subtly hint towards the kind of things Trump talks about, or talk about them in a relatively muted way. They laid the groundwork for these kind of things. Then Trump came along and started saying overtly what they'd been hinting at, and the establishment don't like it because it's "outrageous", but ultimately it's their own fault for quietly encouraging that kind of thing to hurt the democrats.
It's sort of similar to Labour in Scotland. For ages they laid the groundwork, hinting that Scotland was distinct and more left-wing and should thus vote Labour, that Tories are mostly distant rich Englishmen who don't care about Scotland. They quietly encouraged and took advantage of this existing situation, and they benefited from it. But then what happened? Well, when you've so firmly convinced people that the English Tories are such an existential threat to Scotland, while also demonstrating with Blair that you're no better than them... You can't be surprised when someone takes the thing you've encouraged to it's natural conclusion and start voting for the only party that can promise Scotland will never be governed by an English Tory - Red or Blue - ever again.
(Obviously, I'm not saying Lab single-handedly built up Scottish Nationalism, but it's the same kind of situation of an establishment trying to take advantage of underlying forces only to have it blow up in their face eventually.)
>>79566083
There's more reason for it to be 21 than ever before. They're in education longer, they're in work later, they're starting families later, they're living at home longer etc.
>>79563660
Or they're autophobic. Probably that more than xenophilic.
>>79566422
>Until schools start teaching people Britain is a good country and not something to be ashamed off, the youth will always vote wrongly.
It's a lot more than Schooling that needs fixed to restore actual pride in one's country.
So I was arguing with a pro-EU friend and we were arguing over the tariff zone of outside EU trading.
How is it exactly bad. I hear protectionism is bad for the consumer, which I understand, but without protectionism, wouldn't all jobs and industry be outsourced to China and other countries?
> Awright boys
> Ahm a pur stunner in this here United Kingdom
> Fire up those cocks
> Stick it in mah bum
> Stir last night's happy meal
>>79566341
Exactly this. It would never be accepted but it's the truth.
>>79567034
Can someone explain to me the whole thing about Jews being behind communism? If Jews control banks and businesses, wouldn't communism hit them the hardest?
>>79566645
Sorry lad. I'm too poor for it all too.
It would just be nice if we pulled subsidies from other fields to give them to fields that actually matter.
Our taxes contribute to all that shit, but we don't get much return on anything but STEM. Our economy is practically based on it now.
Free uni is nice and all but, if we truly do need more workers, why are we encouraging people to stay out of work until they're 25 and not picking em up at 16?
>>79566341
Exactly this. It would never be accepted but it's the truth.
I listened to a youth parliament event that my friend helped livestream before the last GE and the lib dem and labour candidate were there pandering to them and telling them how great they are and that they should have the vote. It made me sick. At least one girl saw it for what it was I suppose, daughter of a farmer I vaguely know, and called them out on it.
>>79566852
I'm in the same situation, things will get better I guarantee it, you're not a burden you;re a human being who deserves to be happy
>>79566341
You don't need to create a ban.
The youth demographic is self-regulating - turnout amongst the young is absolutely awful. Old people are conscious that voting matters and thus they influence governments more.
Banning the young from voting would just create more discontent and deny the votes from informed people - similarly, it revives the issues that cropped up in the past where young servicemen below the age of 21 couldn't vote, despite serving their country.
If you were to restrict voting to a responsibility-based system, the most you could do is deny the vote to anyone unemployed or receiving welfare support and that won't stop braindead liberals.
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>>79567015
Chill out. 16 or not, we're about to hit a demographic golden oldie age. They have no power. Lowering it down to when they can first speak is the best way to counter the Left.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3041824/Primary-school-pupil-leaves-Labour-shadow-minister-gob-smacked-saying-supported-Ukip-foreigners-out.html#v-4176736273001
>>79567161
Biggest load of shit I've ever read. National pride can be restored in one football game. Low energy, defeatist garbage. Fuck off back to kikebook.
I've been working the last 2 days, lads.
Can someone fill me in on what's happened since? Apart from holy Cymru BTFO of Brussels again?
>>79567807
Congratulations on completely missing the point.
You keep celebrating your Soccer victory, Junior. Then we can go and watch the baseball game and eat some apple pie, it'll be swell!
>>79556702
I love the Mail when its locked on target.
It going after Leadsom for basically nothing.
Inside is its third lengthy feature on Theresa May in as many days, mostly trying to humanise her. Lots of talk about her Vicar father ("values"), interviewed at home with her loving husband, lots of emphasis on how amusing she is in private etc.
I despise the Mail on most levels but you have to doff your cap to such a well-oiled political machine.
>>79567361
fuck off to reddit newbie.
>>79567392
None of this countries policies make much sense at this point. So much has been changed just to win votes with little consideration as to its actual benefit. We need drastic reform but now the very conservatism I usually appreciate is in the way of that.
I'd like to try and do something about it so that I don't feel so hopelsss but I'm crippled by my chronic lack of confidence.
>>79567932
People who can't afford to go to football games anymore don't give a fuck about consumerism.
>>79568100
The Daily Mail absolutely knows its shit.
Manages to appeal to stuffy mums and cranky men in equal measure.
>>79566341
I am sorry to say it, but universal suffrage is the only fair from of democractic action.
We won Brexit because the uneducated, low-skill workforce who have been summarily raped by the EU's open border policy, voted heavily to leave this "union". Old people too, because they grew up in an actual democracy and have watched it be supplanted by globalist puppetry and power-centralization. Had there been a minimum IQ, or an upper age limit set to allow someone to vote, Brexit in all likelihood would not be happening right now.
Project Fear banked on its ability to spook the elderly into voting stay for "muh stability". It absolutely KNEW the young vote would have a terrible turnout, and old people (according to their research) are more likely to vote for comfort and stability in their twilight years. This backfired tremendously since old people saw through the lies.
>>79567765
I didn't really mean that I felt it important to increase the voting age. I agree that that it doesn't really matter.
I was just saying that, logically, it makes nothing but sense to do so.
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>>79568543
I know that loads of communists are Jews. I was just wondering why this is. There's no need to be a cunt mate.
>>79568525
>they grew up in an actual democracy
Ha.
Someone born 62 years ago would've been 20 at the time of the 1974A election, which took place after Ted Heath took us into the EEC without a referendum.
Now, that's all well and good you say, because we then voted for a Government that would give us a referendum... except we didn't. Ted Heath won the popular vote in 1974A, but Harold Wilson came ahead in seats and got to form the government, then take advantage of the incumbency effect in 1974B.
That is our democracy.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we've left, I just don't romanticise the elderly or our status as particularly democratic. Things often work out in the end, but they often don't.)
>>79566935
That's a very interesting assessment. I'm saving this for potential copy pasta (or plagiarism).
Actual racists OUT!
Content of character > Colour of skin
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36686361
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TcWunHOqlc
>>79569000
nice dubs, fair enough m8. bad habit with newbies off another forum.
>>79568525
People aren't stupid, they've just been rendered powerless
Blaming it on iq is retarded in a country with generally high iq. I think you mean education. And that's a by word for liberally brainwashed now
>>79567361
>Can someone explain to me the whole thing about Jews being behind communism?
Okay. Listen up: Jews were behind communism.
Communism vs. Capitalism is best understood as a Jewish civil war.
>>79569126
>Many would assume that those who had migrated to the UK would support others being able to do so
AH HA
AHAHAHAH
FUCKING REALLY
Yes because migrants would actively support a system that brings in MORE migrants to compete with them for jobs and housing.
It's like the legal mexican immigrants "mysteriously" supporting Trump, no shit they support him, he said he would take away their competition.
If these liberals were as compassionate for the "vulnerable" as they pretend, they would be aware that every new wave of people you import here ends up fucking up the plans of the ones who came in before.
The happiest immigrant will be the one that sees the door shut behind him.
>>79567750
I wonder how difficult it would be to allow special dispensation for those serving. I'm too tired to think about it. I suppose you'd have to also introduce voter ID requirements.
>>79556702
LOL Brits vote like fascist knunt and then whinge at kuntish fascist consequences . Beautiful
>>79569698
Hows that EU treating you Francois?
Country not strong enough to survive without it?
>>79569281
I never said anyone was stupid, m8. Also, blaming what on IQ? Your post is borderline non sequitur.
>>79567298
her tits would be magnificent if she got off the pies.
New?
The people responsible for introducing devolution in the UK should be taken to court for treason against our once proud nation. Devolution was introduced to appease to minority extremist groups, and most people didn't want it, with the exception of the Northern Ireland Assembly. Now that we've been forced to have devolution it has proven to be a complete disaster. Not only are the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament totally incompetent, the worst thing to come from devolution has been the widening of the divide between our nations. That divide was at first a mere crack, but has now split into gorge that leads directly to hell. As seen with the rise of the SNP this is completely irreversible, and as such the partition of our most sacred land inevitable.
Sorry lads, Britain is over. The dream has died and the roaring fire extinguished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foG-m-3TVBg
Is my video accurate?
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>>79570067
You're not wrong. It set a precedent that's likely to end the UK as we know it. Wales might well remain but Scotland are more than likely gone and I've no idea where N.I. stand and never have.
>>79569002
>>they grew up in an actual democracy
>Ha.
Relative to us, they really did. This referendum and Cameron sticking to his word is about the first truly democratic act I've experienced in this country, and I've been of voting age for over a decade and have been watching shit fall apart. I noticed it in the intervening months following 9/11, which I think is where I would pinpoint the first onset of Western decline.
I'm not romanticising our elders, but they did grow up in a more democratic climate. Just look at the state of our political system right now. The Tories and Labour are almost indistinguishable with each other. For the most part the political parties barely represent their constituents. We've only just now voted to leave a political system to which we had to defer more and more power. That's not democracy.
>>79570334
9gag
>>79570021
>tfw brexit hype has ran out
NEW THREAD
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>>79570497
I don't think you can pin it all on 9/11; even though things probably ramped up around that time it actually began some time in the 90s, at least.
>>79570497
Oh, without a doubt they had more democratic choice in political parties, but we still had FPTP with the consequences therein. (Which rendered the current situation all but inevitable.)
There have been many moments of decline. Even without Iraq, Blair was never going to end well. Post-9/11 just threw authoritarian surveillance legislation on top of an already horrible situation.
Which is something we should be more and more worried about, as it happens. With GCHQ/NSA monitoring capabilities, democracy is in severe peril, with or without the EU.
It should also be noted that for what it's worth, the EU technically wasn't "that bad" yet in terms of power grabs. (I can say that now that we've had the referendum.) Hence how we could leave of our own accord, without having to ask permission for a referendum. The direction of travel was/is certainly worrying though.
