Sexual intimacy with and among children = morally wrong.
The above is entirely a social construct.
PTSD is dependent upon forced societal norms.
Prove me wrong, /pol/
Gave this thread a go on /sci/, but they're mostly just a bunch of liberal faggots.
>>79358074
Tongue kissing isn't the same as pedophilia.
No one can prove you wrong because that's entirely correct. It's already been proven that "trauma" from childhood sex is most often due to brainwashing and convincing the participator that they are a victim.
>>79358188
>entirely correct
Source?
I'm with you, but this thought-tangent is new to me, and I'm ready to hear others' logical arguments.
"Prego my eggo at 11 years old babe? ;))))"
>>79358143
Would you say it's wrong to tongue-kiss a child, as an adult?
Most of the people I know would indeed label it as such.
>>79358311
Have some links that should be related but I'm too lazy to open them.
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume10/j10_1.htm
http://www.mhamic.org/rind/
https://www.ipce.info/library/journal-article/trauma-myth
I do wish being able to send my mind back in time to my 10 years old body.
Sometimes 14 years old grils just aren't young enough.
>>79358143
I second the motion that kissing and heavy petting is kosher as long we we don't go farther than that.
>>79358649
Lmao cuck
>ITT: r-selected mating rejects rationalize their predatory habits and beg normal people not to summarily kill them as should be done
>>79358736
Hello nigger
>>79358736
Careful with that edge, son. Its on loan from Antifa
>>79358821
Hello future lamppost decoration
>>79358074
Sex with little girls is good but only if it's in a proper relationship(if it's within marriage or in the family) all other sex is rape.
>>79358143
Where are you that tongue-kissing is a non-sexual type of kissing?
>>79358540
I want to be a little girl, it would be so great.
>>79358420
My cousin is 9 and he did it to me as a "joke."
And he stuck his whole tongue in my mouth.
Is he a reverse pedophile
>>79358907
Kek sure buddy
>it's an anti is a violent nigger savage episode
>>79358931
Are you a boy? If so your cousin is a raging homo in the making. I remember being 9 no way thats a "joke"
If you are a gril pls respond and keep me updated on how things develop.
>>79358893
>Careful with that edge, son.
Says the faggot who just got done fantasizing about molesting children.
Your time is coming. Someday r-selection won't be around to protect you anymore. Then the next time someone catches you staring at their kids you'll be scattered in pieces across three counties.
>>79359048
Yeah, I'm a guy. He's not gay or straight right now, he has no noticeable sexuality. Little kids do a lot of stupid shit and sometimes when you hang out with them a lot/baby sit them a lot they start jumping/wrestling, etc. and doing inappropriate weird shit. He was licking my wrist because I got mad and he likes it when I get mad and he just did that.
I'm 99% sure he's seen it in movies.
>>79358074
Weebs are degenerate.
Go back to your man child boards
>>79358931
Are you a guy? How is your cousin already such a fag he's sticking his tongue is guys' mouth?
>>79358911
>Sex with little girls is good but only if it's in a proper relationship(if it's within marriage or in the family) all other sex is rape.
t.weaboo
>>79358911
>all other sex is rape
Ncan detected
>>79358074
Rape = morally wrong.
The above is entirely a social construct.
PTSD is dependent upon forced societal norms.
Prove me wrong, /pol/
Gave this thread a go on /sci/, but they're mostly just a bunch of liberal faggots.
>>79359094
I don't even like 3D you raging autist. Go live out your honor killing fantasies across three countries that appreciate that kind of behavior.
Start With Qatar and work your way south.
>>79359321
Not an argument
>>79359327
holy fuck kill yourself
Jesus, what makes pedo weeb's think /pol/ would accept them?
>>79359212
Me liking naps hit doesn't change the fact that I'm right.
>>79359237
I'm glad you still remember me from just what I post.
One day you'll change your mind and see that I'm right.
>>79359327
>not liking 3D
What's wrong with you?
>>79359504
It's 4chan.
>>79359327
>I don't even like 3D you raging autist.
Implying this makes you any less of a pedophile
>Go live out your honor killing fantasies across three countries that appreciate that kind of behavior.
This isn't honor killing. To be clear, you aren't getting anywhere near my kids. It's removing undesirables from society.
>>79359549
see
>>79359180
your new is showing
>>79359177
Nah man he's gay unless hes got some mental shit like autism. I remember being 9 and if I did shit like that with someone it would totally be because I had a crush even if I didn't consciously accept it.
He may not be sexual yet but you don't have be into sex to want gay physical intimacy like the queer he is.
>>79359545
weebs don't even know they're mentally ill.
You manchildren are just as bad as SJW's
>>79359504
God I wish you fucking newfags would fucking go
>>79359177
>he has no noticeable sexuality.
Puberty already started for him , especially with US's food and pill filled water.
This isn't our generation anymore.
Just make sure he doesn't shehorn himself in one of these regressive sexual identity, it's a tool to breed and deepen your connection to your selected womb, nothing else.
>>79359713
see
>>79359625
and
>>79359180
welcome to 4chan.
Go to weeb boards if you want a safespace for your degenerate pedophilia.
You faggots can't satisfy a real woman so you resort to fucking children.
>>79359558
>you aren't getting anywhere near my kids
You can't stop people ogling, mate.
Of course a man should be the one who decides who his daughter is allowed to marry and when. The problem is, as things stand, the State has stolen that power and says "we bureaucrats know what's best for your family".
>>79359629
He just gets insanely silly and retarded, so does his brother. All the kids in my family I'm forced to babysit because I'm a loser who has no GF act like retards when they have enough sugar/get tired. And they do really dumb shit like bite you and grab your crotch or kick you in the balls.
>>79359743
He's not like that. Literally two seconds after he spit in my mouth he was laughing and going back to Xbox One.
>>79358649
>English text
>panels ordered right to left
How do can't-read-moonfags handle this?
>>79359860
>muh degeneracy
This has nothing to do with being a weeb anyway fag, you're also on 4chan dipshit, not that you remember what this sites main intended purpose was.
>get a REAL woman
Tumblr hagfucker hello
>>79359558
There is the high possibility he fap about the kinkiness of the author sharing his fantasy in graphic form, rather than being attracted to children form.
Or like me he fap to anything as long it isn't some smelly real shit that drag you back screaming to the shit reality. Escapism. by watching people do thing you would never ever do.
>>79358540
Wtf is wrong with you Colombians? You and some guy from my job say the same shit. He's 25 and thought it was ok to bring up his 15 yr old girlfriend in normal conversation with me. Literally wtf?
>>79358074
IS TAHT SOME FUCKING /SS/?
>>79360014
Is that you on the right?
>>79359905
>frenching guys
>playing Xbone
Your cousin is definitely a fag and you are too.
>>79359625
>>79359504
>>79359701
>>79359860
>accuses 2D pervs of being new on a Zulu Spear-Chucking forum
>>79359545
I like 3D just not 3D loli/shota. Its not at all the same thing.
>>79360014
Yes it does, weebs are brainwashed to want to fuck children, why do you think japan has a reproduction problem?
Anyone that watches anime is a fucking degenerate.
Plus all weebs are NEETs
>>79359995
What the fuck?
Why would I go to /b/ or /lgbt/ because little kids do random sexual shit that makes no sense and don't actually think about it?
Have you been close to kids? Like ones that hug you and call you uncle and actually like you? I guess not.
>>79360039
Probably because any man who isn't a brainwashed feminist fag is aroused by 15 year olds.
>>79358074
>sex with children is wrong
>only because it's a social construct
For good reason you fucking pervert, go to /b/ if you want a hug for being a sub human.
>>79358074
We've proven that kids from countries where it's socially acceptable have reported that it fucking destroyed their lives
>>79360179
That looks like a little kid and that makes it unattractive. Specifically in the legs/head. Heads too big for the body.
>>79360150
loli != real children
Children irl are disgusting.
>>79359890
>You can't stop people ogling, mate.
Sure I can!
It's not about what I can't stop people from doing, it's about what other people stop me and others from doing.
And right now this perverted society stops me and others from dealing with deviants such as yourself with the proper and necessary force to discontinue it.
Of course this society is long overdue for a collapse.
>>79360120
Nah I'm much more attractive
Me on the right
I think we need to just downright ban the loli crap and kill these paedophiles on site. I can't wait for 2020 Japan olympics. They'll quickly pass the law to ban this filth because the whole world will be watching those dirty gooks.
>>79360176
>Have you been close to kids? Like ones that hug you and call you uncle and actually like you?
Yeah, and my nieces never tongue-kiss me. I Wish they would.
->>79360150
>why do you think japan has a reproduction problem?
Same as France, the old are gouging the youth with rent price.
Same shit, apart from socialist paying for nigger breeding program.
>>79360239
>That looks like a little kid and that makes it unattractive.
lmao
Sooo...
Is Mohammed/Islam /pol/ approved now?
>>79360436
Little boys are a lot more rambunctious.
>/pol/ turns violent the second their beliefs are challenged
It's like every time this thread gets posted, tumblr is alerted and they all start posting in it.
>hurr you just can't get a REAL wymyn!
Yep it must be tumblr.
>>79360291
Google translate "loli" from japanese to english.
Fucking retard
>>79360039
16 is legal in parts of the US. What, exactly, do you expect to transpire during that year that makes her able to make long-term choices?
Will it be at the same time she decides what she wants to do for the rest of her life? That's a pretty big choice we expect kids as young as 14 to begin committing to.
>>79360436
>muh censorship
New generation of west doesn't like freedom of speech. No wonder the SJWs and alt-right movement are so popular and they want to silence each other.
>>79358893
Sauce?
>>79360467
>some people aren't autistically obsessed with a single interest 100% of the time
>this is bad
Seriously go. I will concede almost everything sacred to /pol/ or any other board before I let you edgelord hijackers take chinky cartoon safespace.
>>79360306
>being this edgy
Funny you think you'd last a second in a societal collapse. Hahaha
I'd have your daughters by the first week bud
Gl faggot lmao
>>79358074
Get this degenerate back to /b/
hey guys remember on Nathan For You when he got that kid to go inside a sound-proof little box in the middle of a porn star orgy??? hahahaha that little kid then inhaled the STD mist in the air right after hahahaha so fahnny, remember that??
>>79360641
12 is the age of consent in mexico, if weebs ever had a job they could move there and fuck the chicks they want.
Or is 12 to old for you pedophiles?
>>79360622
The loli depicted in doujin is nothing like real children. If you don't know the difference you can stop talking about it.
>>79360675
>you edgelord
You're the one defending molesting children retard
A good rule of thumb is to not let people fuck people who aren't even sexually developed yet.
>>79360746
depends on when puberty hits. That's there for a reason.
>>79360801
not all sex is rape tumblr
>>79360291
>Children irl are disgusting
Maybe Malay girls are.
And lolicon is a shortening of Lolita complex. Guess what that phrase means.
>>79360399
>OH NO PEOPLE LIKE THINGS I DONT LIKE
>MAKE IT STOP
>>79360467
4chan is a weeb website
/pol/ is a weeb board for discussing politics
/v/ is a weeb board for discussing video games
/g/ is a weeb board for discussing technology
You can leave whenever you like.
>>79360811
U SOCIAL CONSTRUCT PRUDE! SEX IS JUST SEX WHO CARES MAN ITS LIKE NOTHING, IT HAS NO PSYCHOLOGICAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR ANYONE, U SCARED LIL BITCH
>>79360882
>this fucking game.
>>79360882
Kill yourself already Lena Dunham.
>>79360746
>mexican intellectual children
nty
>>79360710
>he thinks this is is /b/ material
I swear summer + Trump has brought in so much New this fucking board needs scented candles to mask the odor.
I am all for uncucking society BUT STAY AWAY MY 2D REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79360801
>consensual kissing
>"""""""""""""""""molesting""""""""""""""""""
>>79360930
fucking thank you.
>>79358188
Fuck off faggot fighter
>>79360882
Fucking a kid is rape
>>79360641
>decides what she wants to do for the rest of her life?
There's nothing to decide. Any girl of worth aspires to nothing but to be a good wife and mother.
>>79360746
Nah but then youd be in mexico
>>79360975
I've masturbated countless times to it
>>79360930
>/pol/ is a weeb board for discussing politics
fuck weebs are fucking stupid, see pic related, >>79360467
and>>79360132
>>79360593
>hurr you just can't get a REAL wymyn!
You can't, that's why you turn to children who aren't mature enough to recognize your abject unsuitability as a mate.
Ever wonder why every lolita fantasy involves a child who is implausibly mature for their age? Because you faggots like to think that someone can love you for who you are, you just haven't found any adult women yet.
This is, of course, denying the much simpler explanation, that the vast majority of women your age want absolutely nothing to do with you, thus the need to manipulate children instead.
>>79360689
I can promise you I'm more prepared for it than anyone who makes a hobby of Japanese cartoons for children.
>>79360306
>it's about what other people stop me from doing
>his perverted society stops me
So are you a bad motherfucker who takes the law into his own hands or not? What happened to three counties and muh undesirables? You internet badasses are all the same.
>inb4 "Just come and try it, faggot, and see what happens."
>>79361062
Nope. Only using your feminist definitions. it's not actually rape.
>>79360746
> is 12 to old for you pedophiles?
That's the upper limit. Girls are best about 6-10
>>79361124
I have so many problems with the game's women looking like crack addicts from the get go.
>>79361100
Should have nuked your shithole a lot more.
you faggot numales are turning good white americans into pedophiles that never leave their parents home.
This thread is proof of that.
These delusional motherfuckers think it's literally okay to fuck infants because of your shitty immature uncultured """""art"""""
>>79361124
Fuck off faggot fighter. Put a trip on if you really want to be an attention whore you dumbass
>>79361199
Keep thinking that bud lmao
Your daughters would love me I know it. Trust me, some fat old shit loser fuck like you wouldn't be able to do shit in a collapse.
>>79361199
>Ever wonder why every lolita fantasy involves a child who is implausibly mature for their age?
Exactly. They are not real children. Those who read the material understand that. Fantasy is fantasy and real life is real life.
>>79361199
>being this fucking stupid
>looking up porn on phone
>popup comes up and opens new tab
>its all cp
How do they get away with this shit? Am i going to nigger university for looking at it guys?
>>79361037
>>79361279
triggered redditnewfag
>>79360975
sauce?
>>79361062
Not if it's in a proper relationship.
How is it rape when a man eats out his little toddler daughter? He doesn't hurt her and she likes it and he's just her daddy. So, how is it wrong?
>>79361525
How the fuck is a 25 year old going to have a relationship with a 6 year old?
How fucking mentally ill are you?
>>79361511
Unteralterbach
>>79361525
Somehow people think a massage or rubbing someone's feet or something is fine but suddenly if the hands are on a different part of skin it's prison for you
>>79360622
"lolita" describe the nymphet bodytype from the Nabokov's book.
A fertile sex oriented body with all her fertility to come.
The last point is fucking important. The kick is the ida that ALL HER FERTILITY ARE BELONG TO YOU!
Now tell me you still don't understand how this trait thrived. That's ephebophilia by the way scientifically, not pedophilia which is baby and toddler erotization.
>>79361506
lol no
There would be too many people they would incarcerate through that Jewish trick. However, I would be extra careful since you post on here and are probably red flagged like the rest of this. Never underestimate how low the Jew will stoop...
>>79361655
If I see a 40 year old man rubbing someone else's kid's feet I'd fuck him up.
MAGA
>>79361701
>extreme cases not the norm
>>79361700
lmao sure you would fatass. You're probably a nigger too aren't you?
>>79361141
1.The community decide.
2. We booed him off the stage, that silly sjw cuck.
>>79361701
>Exception of the rule
>Cherry picking
Cultural relativists can die in hell fire.
>>79361700
Sure you would. Like most internet tough guys the things they say they would they never actually done before. But maybe you're different. Have you ever in your life beat up a pedophile or a supposed pedophile?
>>79361655
Look, you can't just go around giving a foot massage to another man's wife.
>>79361525
Such degeneracy will never be forgiven. Your day is coming.
>>79361425
Worse, they are in fact the athor/reader turned back into children with their adult persona.
It's not as passive as TV, your pour yourself into what you read.
>>79361800
>>79361936
>Sure you would
Pedo even think alike!!!
i'd fuck both of you so bad your mom's that drove you to the pool would have to plead me to stop
>>79358074
totally agree but saved pic anyways
>>79361623
A better age gap would be closer to ten years than twenty. When a girl is born her father would arrange with a man who has a son of a suitable age to put the two of them together. She'd grow up around him and when he's able to take care of her they'll be married.
>>79361701
>ywn have such a perfect marriage
Why do people hate other people being happy?
>>79362109
>agree
>but saved pic anyways
>anyways
What?
>>79361507
>if you don't conform to my degenerate pedophilia you must be from Reddit
Fuck off you retard
>>79362076
I'm not a pedophile. I'm a normie by 4chan standards.
Answer the question.
>i'd fuck both of you so bad your mom's that drove you to the pool would have to plead me to stop
Edgy, brah.
>>79362119
So you expect some father to see you at random in public (pic related) and say to you "wanna fuck my son"?
No, he would fucking kill you.
>>79362222
You keep saying i'm edgy but you're the one that wants to molest children
>>79361947
>DUHDJINNERASEA
Why do you hate the truest kind of love?
>>79361525
Incest aside, she's not even sexually developed yet. That's why normal people don't find kids attractive. You have a mental illness like the rest of the LGBTBHFAM spectrum of the imaginarium of doctor parnassus pantomime we're indulging in current year.
>>79362354
>normal
This words keep coming up.
Society defines "normal" and thus have the ability to change that.
>>79362028
Mentally healthy people can differentiate between reality and fantasy. You people like to take away people's freedom of expression when you don't agree with their expression .
>>79362354
>she's not even sexually developed yet
So? She doesn't have to be fully developed to enjoy her daddy's love.
>>79362293
And here we enter the "You're calling me out for the internet tough guy that I am, you must be a pedophile. There is no other explanation. I'm right. I just know; it's a gut feeling. Other people's gut feelings are wrong but mine is different. I'm different from the other average and below average masses. I don't have the burden of proo because I say so. It's you who has to prove a negative. REEEEEEEE." phase.
Like I said before, you internet tough guys are all the same.
>>79362296
That's not love you sick deranged fuck. That's rape. Sexual abuse. Child molestation. And a complex betrayal of a child's trust. You and your kind need to be culled.
>>79361215
Just come and try it, faggot, and see what happens.
I don't think you defectives fully comprehend how many people there are out there who wouldn't blink an eye at wiping you off the face of the earth. We aren't talking about Internet tough guys, or dads, or any specific group, we're talking about basically every normal person with normal functioning brains who innately understand in their brains and hearts why fucking with children is the worst of the worst.
Really, the only thing you have protecting you right now is the dopamine of free resources and no threats. You take those away, you turn people back to their survival instincts, they aren't going to look the other way the next time they catch you leering at their offspring.
Now me, I'd just put a bullet in your head and be done with it. But there are plenty of people, small towns and such, who need examples for future deterrence. And nothing says "We don't like pedophiles" more than having castrated pedo corpses lined up at the entrance to town, feeding your dogs Kibbles and Dicks so they acquire the taste of sub-humans, etc.
You'd do well to get a grip on how universally loathed you are among the normal people, it might save your life one day, or prolong it at least.
>>79361525
Time for bed Schlomo
>>79362565
Why do you have to fucking say it like that, god damn. it sounds worse than it is when you say it like this.
I get you're from the south where incest is a thing, but goddamn.
>>79362418
When it comes to biology this is a constant. You wouldn't try to justify a brain tumour against your moral relativism, you'd want that shit corrected. There's no point in sexual activity with children outside of delinquent hedonism. You're an anomaly in need of a cure.
>>79362565
She does to enjoy sex. Be a proud pedo, I don't really care. But lets not pretend you're not just exploiting and manipulating children for your own hedonism.
>>79362671
This ID's last pose was 18 minutes. He took the time to write all of that out!
Very intimidating.
So scared.
Shaking in my booties.
Like I said to the other internet tough guy, I'm not who you think I am. I am not a pedophile.
>>79362635
You've clearly never enjoyed cuddling with a little girl and wishing her nothing but happiness. So I forgive you your backwards and jewish opinion.
>>79362671
Were it up to me I'd have them nailed to crosses, guts slit open, skin flayed, and left as crow food. These fucking creatures make me sick.
>>79362671
I'll ask you the same question I asked the other internet tough guy. Have you ever in your life beat up a pedophile or a supposed pedophile?
>>79362903
>This ID's last pose was 18 minutes. He took the time to write all of that out!
Don't flatter yourself.
>I'm not who you think I am. I am not a pedophile.
No, of course not, you're a pedophile in denial. Or, if I'm very generous, a pedophile apologist. Now the question is, is that enough to keep you out of the out-group? Willing to bet your painful demise on it?
>>79362671
Lel, okay nigger. We've got control over the fifth estate and we're working on the Jews. In ten years it's goinf to be illegal for you to keep us from fucking your kids and you'll taste our drones if you disagree.
>>79363010
I raised a younger sister and a few cousins. That's how I know you're so sick in the fucking head. For you to mistake childlike simplicity for lust is insanity that needs to be punished.
>>79358893
I would like a sauce please.
Killing people as morally wrong is also a social construct.
Social construct doesn't mean it's fucking bad inherently. It upholds the standards of civilization and evolutionary psychology.
>>79363219
>Lel, okay nigger. We've got control over the fifth estate and we're working on the Jews. In ten years it's goinf to be illegal for you to keep us from fucking your kids and you'll taste our drones if you disagree.
Resources aren't free. The higher you fly the harder you fall.
>>79363167
>Have you ever in your life beat up a pedophile or a supposed pedophile?
How many times do you think that opportunity has presented itself?
How about you? How many times have you acted on your perversion with the knowledge of anyone close enough to react against it? Why do you hide in the shadows if you don't think you're doing anything wrong?
>>79363287
I mistake nothing, friend. Little girls are adorable and precious no matter what mood they are in and should be loved and appreciate whether they reciprocate those feelings or not. I'm not talking about physical or sexual love either, just plain good feelings. Haven't you ever gotten a smile from a little one and just feel all fluttery? It feels a million times better than when a woman does it.
all these ass blasted normies and newfags itt. top kek
>>79358074
OP: the Comic
>>79363515
Out of curiosity, if you could have your little girl, would you lose interest in them once they grew up?
>>79363515
I've never wanted to kill someone this badly.
>>79363515
>haven't you ever had rapey feelings for little girls?
>>79363715
Anon I now want to kill you just because I'd be angry if you killed him before I kill
him because that's how badly I actually want to kill him myself
>>79362635
Again, how is it rape? He didn't hurt her and she enjoyed it and he's not just some guy, he's her daddy.
>>79362671
Any internet tough guy in the area want to try some shit I'm in the Charleston area for a few days. We can meet somewhere and settle this. I'm suicidal anyway so I don't give a shit. >>79362714
I'm sorry, I don't know how else to phrase it.
>>79363676
Only sexually. I think, at least. It's never happened before. I'm good at making and maintaining friendships with adults, at least.
>>79363049
In the spirit of 4chan. DO IT FAGGOT.
>>79363209
>you're a pedophile in denial
Every. Single. Time. See >>79362618
>pedophile apologist
I'm not that either. I'm a "calling-out-internet-tough-guys" troll. Your autistic rage feeds me. MOAR.
>>79363418
>How many times do you think that opportunity has presented itself?
Not much, if ever. You kind of over protective dads act like there is a pedo in the bushes just waiting to steal your children. As if, first of all, pedos are as common as homosexuals and, second, anybody would think your children are worth molesting and/or raping.
>>79363715
>>79363908
Be nice, please.
>>79363882
Not rapey at all. You're a normie, right? When you were younger, didn't it delight you to get a smile from a girl you liked?
>>79363676
Well, that depends, is the girl in question my child-bride wife or my daughter? They're two totally different dynamics.
Marriage is forever, daughters are just for until she grows up and you hand her off to her husband. Of course your wife will get old, that's why you have daughters so you can play with them.
Reminder that 2d loli does not stand with 3dpd pedophiles
>>79364329
Back on 4chan Mikee? Did you get banned from all the other pedo boards?
>>79363919
A CHILD ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING SEXUALIZED BY HER OWN FATHER. AND DEFINITELY NOT BEFORE HER BODY IS EVEN READY FOR IT. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF WHAT THE FEELINGS THEY GET ENTAIL.
>>79364449
You aren't going to win any favor from the normies. They are going to cram you in the same oven as me.
>>79360179
No ohe's mouth waters in anticipation of eating old spoiled food
>>79364567
What is up with your filenames?
>>79364753
Windowsphone
>>79364329
Your own children are only for your sexual satisfaction in place of your wife/spouse...? Jesus fuck I might just kill every male teacher in my neighborhoods schools just to make sure none of them are like you.
>>79364459
I don't know who you're talking about. I don't post on other pedo boards, except /hebe/ and it's dead now.
>>79364567
Mm, I love girls who can shoot.
>A CHILD ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING SEXUALIZED BY HER OWN FATHER.
Why not?
>AND DEFINITELY NOT BEFORE HER BODY IS EVEN READY FOR IT
Her body is always ready for it.
>>79364567
When does a person understand? What is the exact process?
Why is the divorce rate so high if adults are able to make better choices about subjects with long-term consequences. Does the mortgage crisis prove that adults cannot consent?
Humans aren't some doll made by a god, they're animals raising themselves out of the muck.
>>79364449
It's still little children being drawn you filthy abnormie. REEEEEEE
>>79364661
You must not know of the dying people in Kenya
>>79365168
>her body is always ready
Welp, I can't argue with that, after she's legal.
>>79365025
>Your own children are only for your sexual satisfaction in place of your wife/spouse...?
Not "only", being able to have sex with them is just one of the good things about having daughters.
>education should be completely dominated by women because MUH PEDO HYSTERIA
You are completely brainwashed. And girls shouldn't even be in schools anyway.
>>79364605
Having sex with kids is going to leave them a permanent mark in their mind
A situation in which they'd welcome sexual interaction is very rare, one in which they'd specifically ask for it almost impossible
Nothing wrong with desiring it though
>>79365475
Mudslime detected. Lolis deserve to be given a good shot at life and educated, just like all children. They are not yours to mold just because they feel nice to touch.
memeddit fags and hypocrite "muh christian morals" /pol/tards get out, loli doesn't mean pedophilia anymore than liking 2d THICC means liking 3d >thicc,
of course trying to ram your dick into something that's not designed/ready for it is a bad idea, but otherwise there shouldn't be a problem with close relatives having an intimate relationship
>hurr durr ur beta fag that cant into REAL WYMYN so you go after ur little sister
And if a sister intensively coddles her little brother that's not creepy/pedo?
It's the Jews pushing degeneracy into the media, they built the social construct wherein UNDERAGE teenage girls whore themselves out to black bulls and chads (inb4 >>>/r9k/) yet you can't accept that "being intimate with kids hurts them" is also a social construct?
hiro bring back /l/ please
>>79365582
Also their inevitable telling to someone is going to ruin the kid's (and maybe your) life
>>79365582
It is highly probably that the current social conditioning would leave them hurt, but there is no reason why that it is intrinsically harmful. Children like physical contact and do it to show affection until they are taught not to. That said though, it is irresponsible and wrong to lewd them these days, since it is so risky to them.
>Nothing wrong with desiring it though
Most people can't separate the attraction from the act.
Honestly, I don't care if they hate me and want to torture me to death, but I really hate that they refuse to acknowledge that there is a love component too, not just a sexual one.
>>79365698
>given a good shot at life and educated
For a woman those things are opposite. Best for a woman does not include formal schooling. What is she going to need to know she can't learn from her mother?
>>79366149
Their hate stems from the mental image of you potentially fucking their kids
They don't hate that the kid itself might feel bad, they hate that you'd be damaging their (very valuable in terms of time invested on) property
>>79358540
Me on the left
>>79358540
me second from left
>>79358893
I get a bit mad when I see this and realize I will never have an innocent, curious intimate relation with someone. The curiosity is gone; quick instruction of lustful acts are found all over the media we watch.
We have let them poison usss. We have stood by, idle as they poison the minds of our young and turn them against their culture, their heritage. Soon, we will deal with them.
>>79366549
Yes, of course it's bad for someone to sex a girl who belongs to someone else, that's rape. No one would say that's okay.
>>79366549
I think it's more of a personal kind of hatred that that. The people in this thread may hate blacks, for example, but I doubt they sit around think how to inflict the maximum amount of pain on them. That level of hate is usually reserved for individuals that have directly wronged the hater. We even get that when it's clear that we follow the law. How am I simultaneously the antisocial weirdo hiding behind bushes blurting out perverted crap with a shaky voice and the suave, charasmatic manipulator telling sweet lies?
>>79358074
People get PTSD from war.
Is not wanting to see my best friend desperately try to stuff his intestines back into his body while he drowns in his own blood a social construct?
>>79358074
>sexual intimacy with and among children = morally wrong.
...Maybe because they're underdeveloped and need time to mature?
Let kids be kids you cuck. Go share your logic with the local law enforcement.
>>79367319
I don't think you know what cuck means.
>>79358074
PTSD is a condition when someone experienced something so horrific that it scars them for life.
Go back to tumblr, they'll shelter you there.
>>79367319
If kids and kids do it, there is minimal age gap, and they learn about sex naturally. What's wrong with that?
>>79358074
>morally wrong
>social construct
>morals
>social
No fucking way, OP, it's like you're a genius or something.
>>79367319
>...Maybe because they're underdeveloped and need time to mature?
They're mature enough at 12, physically. If you're talking about emotionally, then
A. It's a subjective quantity that cannot really be identified or determined exactly.
B. Nobody does it at the same rate, it varies from person to person based on their personal experiences.
Personal experiences, like romantic involvement. Does it really matter with whom as long it is what they want for themselves? Should we have them fill out a consent form?
>>79367319
>>79367540
One post is plenty to reply to a single post.
Anyway, no one is saying they should be roughed up, just that they can get affectionate without being harmed.
>>79367123
Blacks might steal them what they earned in half a month of work, having their kid fucked would damage what they worked on for 7, 8 years, with the goal of getting them safely to a prosperous future. It's also biological, I imagine the apes that went into a fit of rage when their kid was in danger passed on their genes more easily
And liking kids is also genetic, if we didn't find young things cute we wouldn't try to help them
>>79367319
>Maybe because they're underdeveloped
That's why they're so great.
>need time to mature?
No, they don't. Girls can engage in and enjoy sexual activity from very young.
>>79367600
It's bad for girls to be sluts. A girl should never have sex with anyone but her husband(and father if he wants to play with her when she's little).
>>79367866
>A girl should never have sex with anyone but her husband(and father if he wants to play with her when she's little).
What the fuck? What is that backward culture of yours, American?
>>79368035
Sorry I'm not a progressive like you thinking it's okay for girls to be sluts.
>>79358188
>It's already been proven that "trauma" from childhood sex is most often due to brainwashing and convincing the participator that they are a victim.
I agree, and that's what disturbs me the most about modern society's attitude towards pedophelia. It really is horrible for the children the most, though people act like they're the ones acting for their protection, but there's no way of speaking about this without being ostracized yourself.
>>79358074
OP is a gigantic faggot
Enjoy the partyvan
>>79367828
Well, maybe, but I bet that if someone spoke about wanting to kill children then they would get anywhere near the vitrole as if they wanted to touch them.
>And liking kids is also genetic, if we didn't find young things cute we wouldn't try to help them
I don't know. As far as I can tell, I'm the only pedo in my family. I'm pretty sure I would find out if anyone was suspected, since I know they have rumors about me and I haven't even been alone with little one in almost a decade.
>>79368671
>I bet that if someone spoke about wanting to kill children then they would get anywhere near the vitrole as if they wanted to touch them.
I highly doubt that, if you mean here, they probably just think he's pretending
>I'm pretty sure I would find out if anyone was suspected
I think normies just drown out the thought by doing normie stuff and having a normal sexual relationship
>>79361525
>How is it rape when a man eats out his little toddler daughter?
Toppest of keks m8, but I love how no one who replied to you could actually say anything against you and wanna know why? Because it just comes down to
>muh feels
being forced by being brainwashing society. We could be living in a society, where every girls first sexual contact would either be with her father or brother. They would have been responsible to to give her a pleasurable first sexual experience and teach her the importance of not just throwing her pussy at anything. It's more of a thought experiment but, such an society could have been entirely possible if it wasn't for the Jews and feminism. It is absolutely plausible that giving a child a positive sexual experience, couldn't in any shape or form harm it but, rather actually having a positive affect on the child future sexual life.
Again, we aren't talking about rape her, but gentle sexual contact.
>>79369147
>I highly doubt that, if you mean here, they probably just think he's pretending
They'd be called sick and would be hated if they were believed, but no one would make serious suggestions that they weren't human.
>I think normies just drown out the thought by doing normie stuff and having a normal sexual relationship
Well that makes sense. I suppose I was just unlucky to be exclusive then?
>>79360668
>>79363313
Grisaia no Meikyuu - Caprice no Mayu
>>79369552
>but no one would make serious suggestions that they weren't human
It's such a psychopathic thought that no one would be angry at it, I guess since yours has actual reasoning behind it they take it differently
I doubt they wouldn't do worse things to someone trying to kill children
>>79369502
Humans aren't supposed to have any sexual contact or knowledge until puberty. You're literally retarded.
>>79370589
That's so stupid that I'm worried that I'll look autistic by making a serious reply if you're joking.
>>79367754
I would not want my little sister, cousin, niece, or daughter getting fucked.
Also, young girls are really naive and not mentally mature yet. They aren't even allowed to fucking vote, and don't have the self-agency required o have sex. The fact that you would want to take advantage of someone most likely stems from some sort of short-man complex/low self-esteem. If I met you in real life I would castrate you on livecam for all the other predators to see.
>>79369502
>We could be living in a society, where every girls first sexual contact would either be with her father or brother
Exactly, that's how it should be. Too often now a girl's first sexual experience is being raped by some Chad.
>>79370589
> Humans aren't supposed to have any sexual contact or knowledge until puberty.
Why? Because you've been taught it's icky?
>>79370779
You sound like a muslim.
>>79370779
>They aren't even allowed to fucking vote,
Females should never be allowed to vote. Universal suffrage is the death knell of civilization.
>I would not want my little sister, cousin, niece, or daughter getting fucked.
You're acting like all sex is the same. Yes, it's bad for girls to be sluts but it's good for girls to be married young.
>>79370779
>The fact that you would want to take advantage of someone
But you're not angry at people who go for old/handicapped/black/poor women taking advantage of their status
>>79372387
because they have the indefinable magic power of "consent"
i remeber making out with my little sister, when i was 9 she was about 5, tounge and everything, a few times.
im sure she remebers it too, but we have never brought it up ever. in 24 now
>>79372473
Last time I checked saying "yes, you can put a finger up my ass" meant consenting to having a finger put up your ass
>>79372495
Pretty hot. I don't have an imouto so I couldn't do something like that.
Why'd you stop/not go farther?
>>79372606
Yeah you'd think. but since children are still considered property, only certain individuals can dictate their actions.
>>79372688
she was enjoying it too much, i remeber the look on her face how she would look at me after we stopeed, i was old enough to realize i shouldnt be doing it. i never thought about penetration, it just happened was pretty innocent now that i think about it,
Come on guys, start posting /ss/ lewds already, we all know it will happen anyway.
>>79372890
Oh man, that is a really hot story even though it's just kissing. You should bring it up, talk to her about it.
>>79373028
No, that's bad. Adult woman with a little boy is bad.
>>79372387
Old, handicapped, and black people are fully capable of making their own decisions. Taking advantage of poor women is not right if tou trick them out(promise them money in return for sexual favors) if she has children to take care of etc. Its still not nearly as bad as preying on the young though.
>>79371023
Mohammed is the pedophile with a child bride. You sound more like the muslim.
>>79371036
I agree that women who try to have children really old are stupid but there is a difference between 20-25 and 12-17.
>>79373654
>but there is a difference between 20-25 and 12-17.
Yes, there is, that's right. Girl married younger will have a stronger marriage.
>>79359905
>Xbox One
I've got bad news friend...
>>79373654
If not being rational enough means you can't consent, then mentally handicapped and senile people can't either
>>79374203
Also it would mean that smarter girls would be able to consent earlier than normal ones
>>79374444
And that dumb girls would have to wait longer for their consent to be valid
>>79358911
>I want to be a little girl, it would be so great
No, you'd grow up to be a woman, a fate worse than death.
In previous societies girls were married off at 13 and no one batted an eye and the girl would think it was a dream come true.
Females are capable of having babies at, I believe, the age 12.
I don't see anything wrong with the age of consent being moved to age 12.
A 12 year old is intelligent enough to understand what they're doing and why they want to do it.
How is it morally wrong to have sex with someone under the age of 18 when they agreed or even initiated it?
18 is just an arbitrary number and doesn't correlate to physical or mental maturity.
Being attracted to a boy/girl under the age of 12 however is definitely a mental illness.
Having said that, I, myself, am not attracted to any females under the age of 16 and some 16 year olds look like 20 year old fertility goddesses.
>>79374638
Why did this give me an erection
>be kid
>want sex
>try to tell adult I want to have sex with I want to have sex with her
>"lol you don't know what you mean!"
>point to boner
>"lol you don't know what you mean!"
Fuck this gay Earth. I was born to get my dick wet and I was born in the wrong place and the wrong time.
>>79361141
>/pol/ is a weeb board for discussing politics
it basically is though.
this is where the weebus come to shitpost about politics
>>79361506
>Am i going to nigger university
>>79361506
>nigger university
>>79374763
>a 12 year old is intelligent enough to understand what they're doing
Nigger I don't know about you, but if I was allowed to make my own life decision at 12, I would've burnt down churches because I was going through my angry athiest phase.
12 year old do not understand what they're doing because they are still ignorant to grooming, marketing and propaganda.
If 12 year olds are intelligent enough to understand what they're doing, would you give them the right to vote?
>>79359743
The estrogen in the water delays puberty in men.
>>79358540
>that cheeky one with the bulge
>>79358074
>The above is entirely a social construct.
Infact, it's a meme.
And we all know memes are naturally selected right?
Well done anon.
You've proven why pedophilia is ALWAYS wrong.
>>79375134
>the pretense that this changes with age.
Come on.
>>79375134
I was talking about sex here.
And 12 year old you could have burned down a church if he wanted to.
All I meant is that 12 year olds are old enough to understand whether or not they want to have sex...
Admittedly if an adult is coercing them it's a little more iffy but if they try to initiate intercourse with someone over the age of 12 I don't see why that should be illegal.
To answer your question, no I don't think 12 year olds should be allowed to vote or enlist or things like that...
But sex is just a biological imperative, the body is biologically capable of reproducing at age 12
To me that says they're old enough to decide to act on the urges of their body.
>>79374638
>you'd grow up to be a woman, a fate worse than death.
But as a woman I'd be married and my husband would put babies in me. It would be great. And I could make more little girls for my husband to play with.
>>79375134
Basically my point is... if a person's body is capable of being aroused there shouldn't be laws preventing this perfectly natural action.
Ofc MY daughters aren't going to be allowed to even think about sex until they're 18 but that's just me.
>>79375519
This. Does consent mean that nothing a kid says has any merit? They don't know better to be entrusted with grading their schoolwork or listening to anything they say.
They're just farm tools owned by their father and they can only do what he says since they're his property.
>>79375543
Pretty sure you're wishing you were the husband in this story.
>>79358074
The legal aspect of pedophilia is that children are not legally considered capable of consent, so by that legal framework any sexual contact is defined as a form of assault.
Next is the problem with coercion, a child is both mentally and physically incapable of resistance, and conditioning a child to accept sexual contact is coercive in nature, and therefore a form of sexual assault.
PTSD a function of social conditionioning? Not really, children who have been abused often show adverse mental symptoms even before abuse is discovered. In many cases sexually abused children will exhibit violent tendencies towards thier peers, or attempt to reenact the abuse on other kids, this is because they are incapable of understanding what has happened to them and they are trying to understand it through mimicry. Kids have a remarkable ability to recover, if removed from an abusive situation and given a chance, but stating that children cannot be abused by magically declaring abuse and the adverse symptoms it causes to not exist is a very grave phallacy.
That being said, the defition of a child, and at what age consent becomes viable IS a function of society. In some countries 13 or 14 is plenty old enough to get married and start having kids, even in the US some states classify people as young as 16 as capable of sexual consent.
Having been to such places though, it is not a free for all where everyone can diddle kids if they like and have nothing come of it. In most cases there are very ridgid social constructs in place that determine when somebody is ready to marry, have children, and be an adult, usually with an intermediate phase in which the couple live under the parents roof and are supervised to ensure compatability and that nothing untoward is occurring.
And very very rareley will the male and female be more than a year or two apart in age. >>79358074
>>79375519
>All I meant is that 12 year olds are old enough to understand whether or not they want to have sex...
No they're not.
t. actual abuse victim
It's called "coercion"
Realistically, the age of consent should at least be 18.
Their minds are not experienced (not "developed") enough to understand consequences and avoid traps.
>>79361701
Their picture was taken and story done on them for how out of the ordinary their marriage was at that time. Even in the 1st century girls weren't typically married off in most cultures till around 12-13.
>>79375519
That's fucking stupid. It's also a biological urge to be lazy as fuck and get fat. But do we let kids decide what they eat?
>>79375728
Well in a perfect society all women would be considered property anyways.
Property of their father until they're married and property of their husband until he divorces her or she dies.
But in this extremely imperfect society, I'm just tossing around the ideas of whether or not 12 year olds should be legally prevented from having sex or not.
>>79375845
>PTSD a function of social conditionioning? Not really, children who have been abused often show adverse mental symptoms even before abuse is discovered. In many cases sexually abused children will exhibit violent tendencies towards thier peers, or attempt to reenact the abuse on other kids, this is because they are incapable of understanding what has happened to them and they are trying to understand it through mimicry. Kids have a remarkable ability to recover, if removed from an abusive situation and given a chance, but stating that children cannot be abused by magically declaring abuse and the adverse symptoms it causes to not exist is a very grave phallacy.
Exactly.
/thread.
Stop sliding jews.
>>79375890
So it was coercion when the job fair came to my high school when i was 14? I shouldn't be held accountable for any schoolwork i did before age 18, since i could not be held accountable for any action i did.
We tell kids about death
We tell kids about war
We tell kids about love
Why is reproduction forbidden? Because we're afraid they might act by themselves and that we would find it unpleasing?
That's fucking retarded.
>>79365973
>hiro bring back /l/ please
The moment he does, it will get flooded with cp. That's why moot killed it. People can't have nice things.
>>79375679
>if a persons body is capable
Therefore if a persons body is capable of voting, they should vote right?
If their body is capable of war, they should be on the draft right?
They're capable of smoking, they should be able to smoke?
No. Because mental and emotional maturity comes later in life when an ethical perspective can be reached and the long term implications of your actions understood.
You expect a 12 year old to fully understand the implications of sex, protection, pregnancy and parenthood in a long term perspective?
>>79375845
Is it abuse when a 30 year old dates a 20 year old? 40 with 30? 18 with 17?
What gives you the right to say when someone is "ready"?
>>79375890
>no they're not
Yes... yes they are. Their body is capable of feeling sexual attraction to members of the opposite gender and 12 year old females are capable of becoming pregnant.
Sex is not something that requires tons of planning or knowledge.
If it was than most 20 year olds shouldn't be allowed to have sex by your logic.
>>79374763
>>79375923
>the ideas of whether or not 12 year olds should be legally prevented from having sex or not.
Like you said, a girl belongs to her father until he gives her to her husband. It's not okay for anyone else to sex her.
Weebs need to go already. At the very least they could stop pretending to be white nationalists.
>>79375845
Quality post anon.
>>79376019
>school work shouldn't be graded because I can't have sex with children!
What the fuck are you even going on about? School work and the education systems have proven benefits to the individual and society. And the school system also caters to you depending on age and mental ability. I don't see 1st graders trying to understand the reasons for the Vietnam war. Nor do you just say "aye yo getting a dicking" to a child whmjust hit puberty.
>>79376084
>Therefore if a persons body is capable of voting, they should vote right?
They wouldn't vote either way, just like most people. Since fucking when do we depend on the populace to make informed decisions at the ballot box?
>If their body is capable of war, they should be on the draft right?
There's no draft, but yeah lots of kids lied to get into the military. Do they not have a right to make their own mistakes or should we shelter them until they become manchildren afraid of the world?
>They're capable of smoking, they should be able to smoke?
Maybe we should take guns away since a handful of people can't be responsible with them.
>No. Because mental and emotional maturity comes later in life when an ethical perspective can be reached and the long term implications of your actions understood.
If that was true half of all marriages wouldn't end in divorce.
>You expect a 12 year old to fully understand the implications of sex, protection, pregnancy and parenthood in a long term perspective?
NOBODY DOES. Who the fuck goes on tinder thinking all that? Who the fuck talks to a girl thinking all that? people take out fucking mortgages they know they can't pay for and you're asking if they make reasonable choices about who they bone?
Come the fuck on. Your whole world is upside down.
>>79376280
Are kids held back if they do poorly in school?
Why? They didn't know the consequences of their actions. They COULDN'T know. They're kids, according to your logic.
>>79375914
Are there laws preventing children from choosing what their meals are? No.
Parents do that.
I'm not suggesting that laws should prevent parenting.
I'm AGAINST laws that prevent sexually mature people from having sex.
A 12 year old would still be required to do whatever their parents say.
I'm not saying there should be a law negating parents ownership of a child.
But in the case of parents allowing their children to have sex or parents being negligent and a 12+ year old has sex with an 18 year old there shouldn't be laws putting the 18 year old in jail.
That's all I'm philosophically against.
Bear in mind I'm not PERSONALLY against the age of consent being 18 either.
>>79375543
Okay, that sounds alright.
>>79376084
None of those things you mentioned are biological imperatives.
The only biological imperatives human beings have are self-preservation, reproduction, and preservation of their family.
All those things you mentioned are irrelevant to the discussion.
>your son tells you he found an adult female he wants to /ss/ with
WAT DO?
>YOU are 10 years old. You found an adult female who wants to /ss/ with you
WAT DO?
>>79374763
Also, girls get wet and sometimes masturbate years before they're reproductive, so it's not like they're clueless as to the general idea of feeling good.
>>79376019
Teaching a 10 year old to divide 10 by 3.5 is education.
Teaching a 10 year old to suck your dick, then telling him if he ever tells anyone about the act they will get in trouble, and that everyone does it is abuse.
One is education and betters the individual, the other is telling the child that the formerly all powerful benevolent beings known as adults are in fact, all sinister monsters who will shame them for being coerced into doing something they had no say in. That they are alone and nobody can ever help them.
Also, you were never held accountable for actions prior to highschool.
Please explain to me the last time you had a potential employer go through your elementary school records? The very earlliest you will ever be held accountable is highschool transcripts, and atleast in the USA, your legal records are expunged upon your 18th birthday.
>>79376378
Let's not forget either that an immediate benefit of rewriting the consent laws would be that no more kids would become registered sex offenders for sending nude pictures of their underage selves to their underage girlfriends and vice versa.
Can we at least agree that's bullshit?
>>79376302
>There's no draft, but yeah lots of kids lied to get into the military.
16-17 year olds lied to get into the military. 10 year olds could fight but they shouldn't.
>They wouldn't vote either way,
Avoiding the question. Should we let a 5 year old vote if he can mail in is ballot?
>Maybe we should take guns away since a handful of people can't be responsible with them.
>changing the subject again
Answer the question. What does this have to do with guns?
>If that was true half of all marriages wouldn't end in divorce.
Thats a result of jews pushing feminism and unrealistic ideas of love.
>NOBODY DOES. Who the fuck goes on tinder thinking all that? Who the fuck talks to a girl thinking all that? people take out fucking mortgages they know they can't pay for and you're asking if they make reasonable choices about who they bone?
This is all the proof anybody need to see you are autistic.
>>79376302
>they wouldn't vote anyway
Logic fallacy
>do they not have the right to make their own mistakes
Yes they do. But going to fucking war and dying at 12 years old is not one them. Hence why fucking adults do it because we understand what war and death actual means.
>maybe we should take guns away
Logic fallacy. A constitutional right that exists for good reason is not an equivocal reason to fuck kids.
>If that was true
Logic fallacy.
>NOBODY DOES
You're fucking retarded if you genuinely believe people don't understand their actions as adults compared to a child.
Would you let a 12 year become preisdent? Why not? Because they don't fucking understand the implications of their actions on the long term outcomes.
You're entire argument is
>well this happens so I should be able to fuck kids
It's a complete Logic fallacy.
>>79376366
being held back is not supposed to be a punishment. Its so the kid can learn what he was supposed to learn that year.
>>79376512
>your son tells you he found an adult female he wants to /ss/ with
Fuck bitches, get money.
>>79376589
>Teaching a 10 year old to suck your dick, then telling him if he ever tells anyone about the act they will get in trouble, and that everyone does it is abuse.
Fucking wow dude, nobody is supporting that. You're acting like nobody should have guns because people can abuse them.
>Also, you were never held accountable for actions prior to highschool.
You get held back a fucking grade if you do poorly, and that does effect the rest of your life. What if you get expelled? There's lots of shit kids are held accountable for when we deem them worthy of making choices we don't like. That's why we even have a system to try children as adults.
We can just flick their ability to make life-long choices like a switch whenever it suits us.
>oh you slept with a person? you were molested
>oh you stabbed someone? You're an adult and you're getting an adult sentence.
>>79376378
>Are there laws preventing children from choosing what their meals are?
They are not allowed to buy alcoholic foods or beverages.
>>79376505
>None of those things you mentioned are biological imperatives.
So?
How are they irrelevant?
>>79376100
You are using the staw man phallacy.
The difference between a 20 and a 30 year old sexual pair, and a 10 and 20 year old encounter is that the 20 year old is legally defined as capable of consent.
As far as "who am I to decide?"
Well im not, society is. Maybe somebody is mature enough at 15, or 14, but maybe a late bloomer isnt until 20 or 25.
But for legal purposes there must be a set in stone line, and our society has drawn it at 18 because by then the vast majority have developed atleast the minimum faculties to make legal decisions.
>>79376505
Because it's imperative that 12 year olds reproduce rather than getting an education and an income with the ability to raise their child?
We are more than animal slaves to our biological urges.
>>79376771
>You get held back a fucking grade
Thats not being held accountable. No more than having to redo the BAR exam when you fail.
>>79376100
>Is it abuse when a 30 year old dates a 20 year old? 40 with 30? 18 with 17?
He specifically pointed out that the problem is that children are considered unable to consent. If we consider 20 to be old enough to give consent, it doesn't matter if the partner is 20, 30 or 40.
>What gives you the right to say when someone is "ready"?
The right of passing legislation is given by the people (in a democratic system, at least). But I assume you are asking how one could ever find the "correct" age to assume ability of consent, seeing as different people develop at different ages and you don't become "ready" from one day to the next, but rather gradually.
This is an inherent difficulty that is present in any form of law - you have to make a compromise between accuracy and enforceability. In the end, it has been decided that defining an age of consent is the best way to do it. You can argue for a different law, but saying that just because this one doesn't have perfect accuracy and is therefore wrong gets us nowhere.
>>79376161
I don't really have any opinion on incest...
But I guess legally there wouldn't be a problem since women should be property anyways.
But in my perfect society pedophiles (those who actually have sex with anyone, daughter or not, below the age of 12) would be executed.
But people would also be educated that pedophilia is a mental disorder and that it's not really the pedophiles fault they think that way.
And as long as a pedophile doesn't actually act on their desires there would be rehabilitation programs for them.
Admitting that you're a pedophile would be seen as a good thing and seeking rehabilitation would be applauded.
>>79376019
>education = sex
You're fucking retarded. And the education system teaches them to commit sodomy as "there is nothing wrong with it"
There's another issue there too. The whole education system needs to change as well as consent laws.
>>79376947
>an income with the ability to raise their child?
Women shouldn't have jobs, that's why she has a husband to provide for her.
>>79376617
I didn't even know that was a thing but yes that's complete autism.
>>79376919
10-20 is puberty time. Your body and mind changes a lot during this time.
Age of consent should be 18 as thats the voting age.
>>79376618
>16-17 year olds lied to get into the military. 10 year olds could fight but they shouldn't.
Nobody is talking about 10 year olds. We're talking post-pubescent.
>Avoiding the question. Should we let a 5 year old vote if he can mail in is ballot?
It's hard to imagine he'd make worse choices.
>Answer the question. What does this have to do with guns?
Responsibility. Yes, of course people can hurt kids and abuse them and manipulate them. But it seems a tad cynical to assume, despite countless instances in history, that an older person with a younger person automatically implies manipulation and ill intent. It's like that one picture where both people are drunk but the guy is considered in the wrong.
>Thats a result of jews pushing feminism and unrealistic ideas of love.
And this isn't a jew plot?
>>79376713
>Logic fallacy
I'm just stating that voting isn't a big deal to anyone. What are the turnouts in most modern countries? less than 40%?
>Yes they do. But going to fucking war and dying at 12 years old is not one them. Hence why fucking adults do it because we understand what war and death actual means.
If we did we'd do it a lot fucking less. Or do adults know but just not care?
>Logic fallacy. A constitutional right that exists for good reason is not an equivocal reason to fuck kids.
The constitution is a piece of paper it only has subjective value.
>Logic fallacy.
Which one?
>You're fucking retarded if you genuinely believe people don't understand their actions as adults compared to a child.
You've never been to a trailer park.
>Would you let a 12 year become preisdent? Why not? Because they don't fucking understand the implications of their actions on the long term outcomes.
Now you're saying that getting laid is of the same grave importance as being the leader of a nation? Possibly getting pregnant is the same as being responsible for hundreds of millions? For fuck's sake, lay off the fosters.
>>79377075
So you're someone who's stuck in the 18th century?
>>79376789
Those aren't meals.
Nice try.
And I don't think those laws are a good thing.
Children should be allowed to drink alcohol with parental supervision.
>he wouldn't stick his 4-inch-just-got-puberty-last-week weiner into Mrs Robinson's juicy tats
>this is abuse somehow just because timmy across the street has never had a boner and thinks girls are gross
>>79376871
Because your body doesn't cause your blood to flow to your penis or make you feel uncomfortable in your gut area when you don't vote.
It's not that hard, guy.
>>79376117
>Their body is capable of feeling sexual attraction to members of the opposite gender and 12 year old females are capable of becoming pregnant.
That doesn't mean shit anon.
The experience and preparedness to the acts is the important part.
>Sex is not something that requires tons of planning or knowledge.
Well the rising std rate disagrees.
The rising childhood trauma from sex acts disagrees.
>If it was than most 20 year olds shouldn't be allowed to have sex by your logic.
No if they don't know better by that stage when they're an adult and actually are part of the job system, legal system, health system on their own part then they are not simply capable of any sense. This means they are either:
- poorly educated
- poor intellectually
And btw that argument is a logical fallacy (the only argument a pedo can use apparently)
>>79377075
Women should still be educated. They are not meat puppets. It is better to have a society with smart women than a society of women who got fucked by pedos and never learned to read. Are you a muslim by chance?
>>79377169
Holy shit you are retarded. You can't logically back up a single argument and just use strawmans and false equivalence or better just flat out ignore the argument.
>>79377004
>He specifically pointed out that the problem is that children are considered unable to consent. If we consider 20 to be old enough to give consent, it doesn't matter if the partner is 20, 30 or 40.
How is it empirically determined when someone becomes able to give consent?
>The right of passing legislation is given by the people (in a democratic system, at least). But I assume you are asking how one could ever find the "correct" age to assume ability of consent, seeing as different people develop at different ages and you don't become "ready" from one day to the next, but rather gradually.
This is an inherent difficulty that is present in any form of law - you have to make a compromise between accuracy and enforceability. In the end, it has been decided that defining an age of consent is the best way to do it. You can argue for a different law, but saying that just because this one doesn't have perfect accuracy and is therefore wrong gets us nowhere.
In other words, opinions. Not facts.
>>79358074
I can't convey in words how I feel about this thread.
I know nothing I say could possibly convince you what a monster you are. The only language people like you speak is violence.
English, French, Chinese, Russian, they're all useless trying to knock sense into someone as deranged as you. But you understand pain, and you understand that avoiding it is good for you.
>>79377025
>pedophiles (those who actually have sex with anyone, daughter or not, below the age of 12) would be executed.
Why? If you agree a girl belongs to her father how can you say he can't mess around with her?
>pedophilia is a mental disorder
Having good taste is not a disorder.
>>79376947
You're flipping my argument into...
Children should have sex all the time and no one should stop them.
When what I'm actually saying is... there should not be legal penalties preventing a 12 year old from initiating sex with an 18 year old.
>>79376366
Being held back in school is not a punishment, it is a buffer to give a child time to develop to the appropriate levels.
Allowing a child who is incapable of the course work or who has not developed the proper faculties to progress is like tossing somebody who has not swam before into the deep end.
When the child can swim they can cross into deeper water, until then they must be given the proper instruction and attention to ensure they are ready to cope with what could become a serious and possibly life threatening situation.
Which is the core of why sexual contact with children is taboo. Because they do not posess the faculties to protect themselves from an abusive partner, or even recognize one, nor even explain such a situation to an authority figure.
Im not saying non damaging sexual contact with a minor doesnt exist, im saying that a child is far too vulnerable to becoming victimized and so they are placed off limits.
>>79377296
All you have is parroting a list of terms you found on reddit. Any value for your methods lies solely in your own head and in the heads of other dumb redditors who think bleating logical fallacy makes them smart.
Use your own words.
>>79359177
He's a little homo, sorry bro
>>79377275
>if they don't know better they're an adult
Please tell me what qualifies as an adult then.
Before you told me that people below the age of 18 aren't adults and can't consent because they're not mentally mature enough...
And then you turn right around and say that "adults" that aren't mentally mature enough should just deal with it.
>>79377275
>only argument a pedo can use...
Lol common sign of an idiot is when they assume that someone arguing for someone MUST have personal incentive to argue for that...
Like I mentioned before I don't even have a remote sexual attraction to anyone below the age of 16.
I like boobs... a lot.
No boobs, no attraction.
>>79377378
>Being held back in school is not a punishment
It is to the kid. He loses his whole life and is branded a retard by his peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l784fJ5fciI
If all of what you're saying is absolutely required, how did we make it this far as a species before anyone asserted that this is how it must be from now on?
>>79377169
>Nobody is talking about 10 year olds. We're talking post-pubescent.
Thats not what we were talking about.
>It's hard to imagine he'd make worse choices.
its hard to imagine that a 5 year old would make worse choices to a adult. You must be retarded. At least liberals have an idea of what they are voting for.
>an older person with a younger person automatically implies manipulation and ill intent.
Intent doesn't matter. It is manipulation. It doesn't matter what your intent is if you go out with a mentally retarded person you are manipulating them. Children are basically just mentally challenged people.
>And this isn't a jew plot?
Jews love fucking little children. They do it in hollywood all the time. its one of their favorite pass times. Muslims also love fucking children.
>>79377180
>Children should be allowed to drink alcohol with parental supervision.
They are.
>>79377293
>never learned to read.
Of course girls shouldn't be illiterate(though it's never polite to acknowledge that a girl can read) but she doesn't need school for that. Basic literacy and necessary maths she can learn from her mother.
>>79375845
>a child is mentally incapable of resistance
I don't think if you throw a shit at him he'll remain unhinged
>physically
Let's stop fucking anything that isn't as strong as us
PTSD part only applies if the experience is traumatic for the kid
>In some countries 13 or 14 is plenty old enough to get married and start having kids
That's just in case that some teen couple fucks up and gets a son
>>79377353
Except a 12 year old is not mentally or emotionally prepared for what sex is.
Sex, as you'd know as a perma wizard, bonds people together, especially women to men. Now tell me that a 12 year old will not be massively negatively effected for an exceptional periodmofmtime after an 18 year old coerces them into sex with false promises that 12 year olds are likely to fall far, only to be a pump and dump?
Inb4 adults do that too.
The emotional and mental impact on adults is minimal compared to possible permanent emotional and mental damage that would inflict majority of mentally and emotionally immature children.
Child sex laws are there to protect children from themselves. Like not letting a child own a gun, drink alcohol or smoke. They can't understand why it's bad, but we as adults know that letting them have these things can permanently hurt them in the long term which they don't fully comprehend.
I was such a horny kid from the age of 6 onward. I would've loved to be gently molested by any older woman or girl that wasn't obese or hideously disfigured.
I actually tried to make awkward advances towards my teenaged babysitter once, walked in on the hot mom of one of my friends changing and so on and so forth.
>>79377293
Women do not need to be educated past learning how to cook clean, make house, take care of children and etiquette.
Women should not be in the position to make any decisions that require knowledge of history, politics, economy, etc.
>>79377308
You're just a troll now, aren't you? I just told you, we define an age of consent (16, for example) and consider everyone above that age to be able to give consent.
If you think this is wrong, offer a better idea. You can't win an election without a candidate, mate.
>>79377433
>Please tell me what qualifies as an adult then.
maturity anon.
Hence they lack the "experience"
But at the same time:
>independent from others or making headway into becoming independent
>educated to an acceptable degree
>enough life experience to make unimpaired judgements
A child cannot give testimony in court without specific institutions involved likewise. They lack the capacity to understand the situation.
Sex is no different.
And don't say "but they allow childhood testimony"
Only with a pinch of salt because it's childhood testimony, they have a tendency to not rationalize the gravity of situations correctly and lie in court.
>>79377258
>appeal to nature
So what your saying is its perfectly natural and therefore fine. Would it also be fine to murder someone on the street. Thats what tribals do. Would it be acceptable to shit in the street like an indian as well? Is it also acceptable to rape people since its a biological imperative.
>>79377622
>Thats not what we were talking about.
Well i will say unequivocally that before puberty is just wrong because the kid isn't biologically set up to appreciate the experience.
>you must be retarded. At least liberals have an idea of what they are voting for.
They vote for whoever promises them the most treats. Kids can figure that shit out in a day. You love your mother, but you respect your father, etc etc.
>Intent doesn't matter. It is manipulation.
What's the word for someone who always knows what's better for someone? A tyrant?
>Children are basically just mentally challenged people.
Surely you've driven on the freeway and been dispelled of the notion that there is not a significant change in behavior. It's just more restrained by the law.
>>79377540
>Lol common sign of an idiot
When you are literally abused as a child you see through bullshit pedo acceptance arguments.
It's wrong and I KNOW it's wrong from actual experience.
Plus again that's ad hominem.
>>79377615
>branded as a retard by his peers
Therefore we should just let him continue suffer in silence as he takes on work that he cannot complete or understand.
There are more important things than being called a retard by some twats in school, like fucking education.
In your ideal society, we wouldn't hold kids back, therefore they would graduate without knowing anything, unable to continue to college, unable to get a career level job since they haven't developed the ability to think logically and problem solve.
I think getting called retard and being successful later in life is a small price to pay
Also hint:
My brother got held back a grade twice because he couldn't fucking read for shit.
What's worse?
Being panned for being held back a grade, or not having an incredibly vital skill to live in society?
>>79377353
The legal system could easily use this loophole to subvert this to blame the 18 year old anyway. The only realistic thing that can come from sexy times like this is 2-D. Once anything goes wrong when 12 year olds and 18 year olds start having relationships en masse, this reverts to the cultural revulsion that exists towards this volatile bonding pair. It's really easy for this standard to be abused and have no way of fixing or preventing abuse once that it is allowed at all to have sexual contact with minors. There are some rules that are there protect everyone even though a few could live without them just fine. When making rules you have to think about everyone else because they share a legal system together. However what can be done is toning down this kneejerk reaction of inflammatory rage towards genuinely natural sexual impulses. Our culture goes too far and thinks any signs of sexual interest from minors is abuse and tries to make the young out to be as asexual diapered idiots until the day they turn 18 (and then add a few if attending a school with a safe space).
>>79377634
>Of course girls shouldn't be illiterate(though it's never polite to acknowledge that a girl can read)
Fuck off muslim.
>>79377615
>It is to the kid. He loses his whole life and is branded a retard by his peers.
That's called a consequence.
They're good for you.
And let's be honest, you'd have to be pretty damned stupid to not be able to pass elementary school.
I don't think intelligence is even a factor, just effort. At least until high school.
>>79361939
just wanted to let you know that I got your reference and kek'd
>>79377335
There would be a (few) laws that prevent females from being abused.
I don't think men should be allowed to kill or injure their wives for example even if they're allowed to choose how they dress and if they're allowed to leave the house.
Pedophilia, just like homosexuality, has been well established among psychologists as a mental disorder.
Only reason why homosexuality is no longer considered a mental disorder is because society decided that their opinion on the matter was more important than empirical evidence and majority of psychologists folded.
I'm not really certain on the severity of how pedophilic acts should be punished, but execution would send a strong warning.
I could be convinced that jail time and forced rehabilitation would be a better solution but idk... I like draconian laws.
>>79377686
>we define an age of consent
Based on shit that's not scientific.
>If you think this is wrong, offer a better idea. You can't win an election without a candidate, mate.
Devise some sort of turing test of "can make a proper choice" and administer it to everyone.
If it sounds difficult or impossible to define "making the proper choices" then i will state that i did not propose that the concept had merit, you and others did.
>A child cannot give testimony in court without specific institutions involved likewise. They lack the capacity to understand the situation.
Are you aware that in my country a child under the age of 18 can be tried as an adult with adult punishments if they commit a grievous enough act?
>Sex is no different.
I think everyone is blowing the importance and ramifications of sex way out the window. There's a lot more to a relationship than that.
>>79377679
doesn't mean they shouldn't be educated and intelligent. Do you really want a soceity of a bunch of retarded women running around looking for a dick to gobble up?
>>79377953
>Therefore we should just let him continue suffer in silence as he takes on work that he cannot complete or understand.
I'm not arguing that there should not be consequences for their actions, i'm saying there are situations where we treat them as more "mature" than we do in other situations, and it seems largely arbitrary and based on convenience.
>>79377897
I would beat the shit out of you if I knew who you were.
>>79378103
>majority of psychologist folded
No they didn't fold to shit. It was because it was deemed there was no real negative outcomes from living a homosexual lifestyle.
Living as a pedophile makes you a danger to children who are ignorant to their own decisions
>>79378145
>Based on shit that's not scientific.
Are memes not scientific?
cunt.
Lets forget about sex with a minor. The highly emotional opinions cloud peoples judgement. How about we look at it like this, why are children not allowed to:
Apply for a loan
Open a line of credit
Oversee their own legal and medical affairs
Buy a house
Buy a car
Sign a contract to join the military
Operate an automobile or heavy machinery
Drink
Smoke
Apply for college
Vote
Join the military
The answer to all of these questions is going to be the same as the answer to why they are not allowed to concent to sex.
Because they are not mentally capable of making informed decisions on such complex issues, and because they are vulnerable to being exploited.
In short, it is the parents job to look out for a childs financial, physical, and mental well being, and to a lesser degree, society's job as well.
18 is the age by which you are determined to atleast posess the minimum faculties to begin this task on your own, until then your welfare is monitored by somebody capable of ensuring you do not, say, apply for a predatory loan with 80 percent compounding interest, or end up pregnant at age 13.
>>79377657
You're arguing with a lot of ifs and buts and opinions.
All of the things you said differ from person to person.
The fact that the body is physically capable of producing children tells me enough.
If there are 12 year olds that understand what sex is and know that they want it, then why should laws punish people for that?
What benefit is there to society in preventing an 18 year old from having safe sex with a 12 year old?
I can't think of a single one.
>>79378234
No it isn't. Since education has a tangible benefit compared to letting a child fuck an adult.
Please demonstrate how a child would benefit long term from a sexual relationship with an adult?
>>79378295
>It was because it was deemed there was no real negative outcomes from living a homosexual lifestyle.
I don't even.
What is HIV?
Homosexuality has very negative outcomes.
>increased promiscuity
>leads to looser moral basis
>leads to not only stds but potential self harming actions or behavior
>>79377733
>maturity
There is no way to quantify or measure maturity.
Why is 18 better than the age of 12?
There are 12 year olds more mature than some 18 year olds.
The point is that making a law based on maturity is moronic.
Making a law on physically apparent factors, like the body's ability to reproduce is much more intelligent.
>>79377657
>Like not letting a child own a gun, drink alcohol or smoke
Smoking and alcohol are just because they're particularly damaging at an early age. Kids can shoot guns under adult supervision, they can't own them because they can't own pretty much anything
>>79378359
>If there are 12 year olds that understand what sex is and know that they want it, then why should laws punish people for that?
Just because they a biologically ready for sex doesn't mean they are ready for sex. Kids don't know that they want. Just admit you are a pedophile.
>What benefit is there to society in preventing an 18 year old from having safe sex with a 12 year old?
The same benefit that prevents an 18 year old from kidnapping a 12 year old.
>>79377932
>ad hominem
you have any idea where you are faggot?
throwing out your stupid buzzwords won't give you points here I'm afraid.
There are no rules to a real argument.
I can insult you all day and still have better arguments.
But I understand if your feelings are too hurt to continue.
>>79378403
>HIV
Because only gays can get HIV and are completely mentally incapable of using protection during sex, correct?
>increased promiscuity
>moral
Oh okay, so now we're arguing subjective morals? The same subjective morals that you have called arbitrary when it comes to fucking children?
>stds, harmful behavior
Because straight couples can't also get stds and engage in harmful behavior?
And so you have stated a bunch of shit that is not mutually exclusive to gays, but apparently you think gays are incapable of handling their own life as adults, but think heterosexual children can?
You think gays are more mentally handicapped then children?
>>79378534
>they can't own pretty much anything
Kids can own everything? Kids can own houses, cars, estates, companies.
>>79378403
>>79378489
>There are 12 year olds more mature than some 18 year olds.
Thats just no factually correct. You've been watching too much anime. The brain goes through a lot of development from 12-18 Much more than people 30-50. Thats just the way humans work.
>>79378145
Why do you insist on scientific merit? Law isn't a science. Look, I'll break it down for you because I'm afraid you're so fucking autistic you're going to start diddling children and then sperging out at the parents and judges.
The argument for the status quo is as follows:
>The benefits of preventing sexual abuse of children through the age of consent law outweighs the harm done by outlawing sexual acts involving mature enough children who are below the age of consent.
You can argue against this if you want to, but so far all you have been saying is
>There is no possible age that could be determined with all humans able to consent are younger, and all humans unable to consent are older
This is a non-sequitur, because this was never implied. Argue that the harm outweighs the benefits or gtfo. Now for your alternative, let me paraphrase
>Developing a test for ability of giving consent and testing children (in regular intervals? after sexual acts have occurred?) is a way of determining ability of consent that is better at outlawing sexual abuse of children while still permitting consensual sex between young people.
Now if you're serious about this, develop such a test or find people that will, and propose ways of implementing this state-wide without racking up too many costs. You will then be technically correct, which will not stop people to assume you are going through this much trouble mainly to talk some innocent 12 year old into fondling your peepee.
>>79378359
A child is physically capable of firing a weapon, so why are 12 year olds not allowed to enlist?
I mean PTSD, mental, and physical damage are just social constructs right?
The kid wouldnt have any adverse effects from fighting a war until the social workers and mental health professionals convinced them they did after all....
Hell, let em apply for loans and drive cars too. After all, they are biologically capable of such.
>>79378489
> there is no quantifiable way
There's no quantifiable way to measure happiness, grief, sorrow, excitement, content or anger.
There is no quantifiable way to measure someone's capacity to raise children
So should we just throw out the entire sociological rule book?
Daily reminder that this is what anime does to people
>>79378153
You're only thinking about formal education.
Everything a woman would need to know to not be a degenerate whore would come from her parents.
We already have a pretty well defined education system and women are more sluttier than ever!
Learning history or astrophysics won't make a woman any less dick hungry.
And like I mentioned in another post, in a more perfect society women would be considered property until they were married.
And a woman having a sexual affair would be punishable by law.
But they wouldn't be allowed outside in the first place because their father/husband would know better.
>>79377733
Some young girls are more mature than older ones, if it's ethically right to let an immature 15 years old fuck, why is it ethically wrong to let a mature 12 years old do so too?
>But at the same time:
>>independent from others or making headway into becoming independent
neets can't fuck?
>>educated to an acceptable degree
people who stopped going to school can't fuck?
>>enough life experience to make unimpaired judgements
This makes sense but life experience can be radically different from person to person, how do you differentiate between them?
>>79378722
Can a kid go to a house seller and buy one?
>>79378295
>no negatives from homosexuality
tfw when you're this cucked by liberal media
>>79379166
Im not you dirty nigger.
I'm against gay rights and think it's a mental disorder. But this faggot was spreading misinformation as to why it was redefined.
>>79378870
I give up...
People are just going around in circles, trying to pinpoint one thing or another.
there are so many things wrong with the arguments you're trying to give i don't even know where to begin.
>>79379282
>I can't argue my point other than 'muh superior science fallacies' so I win.
You're a fucking idiot.
>>79378905
This law is SPECIFICALLY designed to pinpoint some sort of maturity threshold.
18 is an arbitrary number.
You cannot scientifically prove that an 17 year old who is turning 18 in 2 hours is mentally less mature than someone who turned 18 5 seconds ago.
There is no quantifiable or intelligent way to say "this should be the age of consent"
All I am doing is suggesting that 12 is a better age of consent than 18 due to biological evidence.
There is NO MEASURABLE REASON why 18 is the magic number.
Idk why you can't understand such a simple thought.
>>79379272
It was redefined by societal pressure.
Nothing more.
If you look at the timeline of when it was considered a mental illness and not considered one you'll see a direct correlation to the popularity of gay rights.
Going to bed
>>79379422
I didn't say I win.
The point is you're too stupid for me to waste my time trying to convince you so why bother?
The arguments you give me are more than enough to tell me that I'm not going to convince you with science or logic or reason.
Why would I waste time trying to convince someone of something that they're not going to even budge a little bit on?
You're too closed minded and I can't argue with that.
Plain and simple, you can get buttmad if you want I won't stop you.
>>79379282
You are using doublethink
"Children should not be allowed to drive a car, or take out a mortgage because they are incapable of understanding complex issues like that, and cannot protect themselves from the consequences because of this"
True statement yes?
Sex is a complex issue with many potential consequences, and children are not ready to make a decision like that.
A kids biggest choice should be "chocalate milk or orange juice"
Not
"Should I fuck this guy? is he clean? What if I dont want to fuck him anymore? What if he doesnt take no for an answer? What if I get pregnant? Keep it or abort?" Etc etc etc.
Youre damned right to give up, because I am right, and you are wrong, you can pretend things you dont agree with dont exist, are social constructs, or "miss the point" as you have bitched the entire thread, but it all boils down to this.
There are many, many good valid reasons for children to be protected from people like you, and it doesnt matter how you feel about it or how hard you pretend the things you dont like dont count or dont exist, thats the way it is, and there aint shit you can do about it.
>>79379857
>sex is a complex issue
This is where your argument falls apart.
>tfw none of my babysitters ever took advantage of me
;_;
>>79379857
>children protected from people like you
so if I argue that pot should be legal I must be a pothead right?
I'm not a pedophile you dipstick.
>>79379857
there's also the argument to be made that... laws or not 12 year olds are thinking about sex.
12 year olds and even younger masturbate or watch porn.
You are clinging to notions that are derived simply from emotions and fear of the unknown.
>>79378665
>subjective morals?
again.
Naturally selected memes.
Because in the past the same shit occurred and fags ended up dying.
Morals were an archaic reflection of reality. They didn't fully understand the cause, but understood the conclusion.
>>79379156
>Some young girls are more mature than older ones
MENTAL MATURITY
Fuck sake.
Having an adult body =/= an adult
>>79379940
>This is where your argument falls apart.
He's right though.
The psychological issues of sex are not understood all that well.
Or are infact subverted.
>>79380362
It doesn't matter.
Billions of stupid people have sex everyday with unintended psychological or physical consequences.
Making 12 year olds not have a choice doesn't change that.
>>79378348
>Apply for a loan
>Open a line of credit
>Oversee their own legal and medical affairs
>Buy a house
>Buy a car
They can't get a job yet because do-gooders thought child labor was always wrong.
>Sign a contract to join the military
Kids are useless in a fight.
>Operate an automobile or heavy machinery
Because not enough of them are raised right to be responsible with it. My dad let my start using the riding mower when i was 5, and i drove his truck by myself for about a mile when i was 7. Kids learn shit quick, it turns out. And no, he was not abusing me by letting me have responsibilities.
>Drink
>Smoke
More severe brain damage, i believe. Again, a lot of kids are irresponsible due to poor parenting.
>Apply for college
Quite a few kids have entered and graduated early.
>Vote
Wouldn't really matter.
>Join the military
Didn't you say that already?
>>79365025
>Jesus fuck I might just kill every male teacher in my neighborhoods schools just to make sure none of them are like you.
So if you had your way, every boy in the country will experience institutionalized and exclusively female authority for 13 years minimum. As if the world isn't betafied enough by women henpecking boys into being polite, little sissies who know how to sit still and follow herd mentality like women, adjudicate personal responsibility, and rely on some other authority to solve all their petty little problems so that they don't ever get hurt- like women.
Schools and their teaching staffs should be sex segregated.
>>79380503
>Billions of stupid people have sex everyday with unintended psychological or physical consequences.
>Making 12 year olds not have a choice doesn't change that.
It does.
The consequences are increased dramatically.
I was abused, but luckily only very little.
The resulting trauma has still crippled my sex life and the way I interact.
I will say it made me skeptical of bullshit though - which was a good consequence I guess, but not worth the other issues.
