what does /pol/ think about spain? both historically and in modern times.
personally, they're my favorite european country i like their history, especially the colonial empire and the reconquista. hopefully they'll launch a second one.
>>77790390
Yup this country used to be great. Now it's the most pro-faggot country on Earth, thanks to Zapatero
>>77791052
you sure the most pro faggot country isn't scandinavian, or the uk?
>>77791219
Scandinavians are not even counting anymore. They are beyond scale.
Historically I find them very engaging. I don't know why they don't get talked about much, nowadays.
>>77791426
oh, i thought you meant sjw in general. im pretty left leaning compared to the rest of this board, i dont really see homosexuality as a bad thing. i dont think they make good parents though, but if a guy wants dick in his butt i dont really have a problem with it
>>77791565
fascist dark age? idk
>>77791565
their prime days were relatively earlier than other countries as well, so maybe that's a reason
>>77791588
> i dont really see homosexuality as a bad thing. >i dont think they make good parents though,
slippery slope is real though
>>77790390
Your map is lacking a rectangle mate.
>>77791761
yeah but lots of gays dont want kids. i dont think they're good parents, as a kid needs a mom and a dad, but i dont think they're bad people and i dont see anything wrong with being attracted to someone the same sex/gender as you
>>77790390
I love that country, always did. the history is fantastic and the red pilled people are based as fuck.
Historically, we had so much potencial ruined by our leaders and our internal conflicts.
Nowadays, pretty same. :V
>>77792488
what area of spain are you from?
>>77792551
Madrid
Its going to complete shit with a total brain drain to the rest of europe and south america.
At this point it doesnt matter who wins their elections, job creation and retention should be their only priority
Heard Spain isn't doing too well these days
Something about lots of pickpocketers in popular tourist areas, some areas of the country wanting their own independence.
Can a Spainbro bring me up to date on the status of the country?
>>77792594
hows that unemployment rate
>>77792709
You need to understand that Zapatero completely ruined everything. Think Turbo Obama.
Employment rate is decreasing but it is still all time high and will remain so for a while.
Spain is swamped with foreigners, especially the cities like madrid and granada and more.
We have some of the most left leaning retards per square meter there, it's sickening. There's a problem with virtue signaling lefties in the US but over there, it's people competing over how fucking socialist/communist you can be in comparison to others.
Pollls are projecting a political victory for the socialists which plan to let in huge amounts of refugees.
My country is dead, luckily I'm a burger citizen too. I hope trump sees fit to give Spain the Japan treatment and hopefully we can become nationalistic again.
>>77790390
>Be Castille and Aragon
>Reconquista time
>Fighting against muslim women and children, scary amigo, very scary.
>Call it glorious
>Merge and form Spain
>Dick around with Portugal
>Get BTFO'd
>Portugal is going conquistador mode
>Oh shit we need to do the same
>Sail west
>Get lucky and find mountain of silver
>Oh shit we rich now
>Be even more lazy beaner ass
>Cannot into inflation
>Export silver to china, import cheap chinese products, crash domestic production market
>Get dicked around with royal pussy, everyone has royal ties and claims on you.
>Get some lands through weird ass claims and such. Be emperor of both Spain and the HRE. Lose all titles on the HRE.
>Oy we rule the Low Countries now
>Get BTFO'd for 80 years.
>Seajews steal your weapons, send it to their colonies in South America, who sell it to your colonies in South America, who then export it to Spain, to use against the Low Countries. Rinse and repeat.
>Fight the eternal anglo several times and get BTFO'd, muh armada. Also lose clay against them. muh gibraltar!
>Be laughing stock in Europe.
>Napoleon came and fucked you up.
>Continue to dick around in South and Middle America, because those are the only ones you can handle.
>Lose them
>Lose the war against the US.
>Dodge bullet with WW1
>Civil war time. We can be great. Better fascist than red
>Franco wins. Sees the state of his country and tries to do best with one small step at a time.
>During war, commies send the gold reserves to Soviet Russia. effectively making Spain financially hollow
>Franco is blamed for the economic shit the commies caused.
>Spain remains poor throughout the first part of the century
>Spain becomes a democracy again
>Spain is now a refugee camp for Brits, Africans and Gypsies
>Gets modernized with German/EU money
>Spain has become a tourist country
>>77792740
It is not real , most people unemployed works but only untaxed
>>77792709
independence is an excuse to hide lis economic problems of that area
>>77793267
I dont know about catalonia but isn't the basque country one of the most industrialized parts of spain with the highest gdp and lowest unemployment?
>>77793424
Basque secessionist movement is pretty much dying nowadays, according to statistics from the basque government only 19% of basques are pro independence.
>>77793424
Yes it was. Now it is one of the area with less unemployment because it has some tax benefits that others do not have.
>>77790390
my thoughts
Spain is the reason 19 countries in the americas speak Spanish. They unified the region under a single language, overall that's a good thing. Much better than everyone speaking something gay like french.
Also they gave us Puerto rico and guam, should have given us Cuba too but what a shame.
>>77791992
Your apathy is why degeneracy is winning. People like you. Who have accepted your pathetic way of thinking.
You have to care, because they will teach this shit to our children and to our society and act like it's normal. And it will change our way of life for the worse. All because of 4% of the population that was born with a medical disorder, that we treat as a special class.
>>77793142
>Madrid mayor places "refugees welcome" signs everywhere
>>77791052
not every fag wants to end civilisation, some of us simply want to be left alone. It's the, muh pride jew led group that ruins it for everyone.
>>77790390
>personally, they're my favorite european country
I agree, interesting history.
>>77793926
the retarded left is the only one treating them as a special class. the only reason they're treated as a "class" is because they've fought for fights and been discriminated against due to religion. the whole gay rights thing is about equality, so you can't treat them "specially" either and anyone who does so is wrong. you'll notice the people teaching "this shit" to our children usually aren't the gay ones but the supportive leftists. it doesn't matter though, because who you're attracted to doesn't matter and no one can really change it because they can't change the way your mind works. they can't change your physical preference.
>>77794023
whew
>>77794239
I dunno man I got nothing else to add... most of what I know comes from playing Crusader Kings 2..
>>77793142
You talk as if Britain didn't lose their colonies in the Americas too. Or the French.
And you talk as if teaching the world how to rule the seas and increase trade, and colonize new lands, you brush it off as if nothing.
By the way, Spain, in ancient roman times, was known as Hispania, and it is the birthplace of the GLADIUS, the sword that Rome used to create their empire. Romans would go to Spain to improve military tactics and train their soldiers, and they would recruit Spanish men into the Roman Legions because Spaniards were known to be fierce fighters.
>>77794332
nah I thought you were gonna shitpost me 28th the greentext
>>77794198
Except homosexuality is a mental illness, and without the retarded lefties trying to normalize degenerate and damaging behaviours we can do actual scientific research into it and find ways to help and prevent homosexuality.
>>77794198
Who you're attracted to DOES fucking matter. Are you autist? The human body is supposed to develop an attraction to the OPPOSITE sex for the purposes of reproduction. This is evolution according to science. This is how Human DNA is supposed to develop a human.
Homosexuals have a medical disorder in which their reproductive system is that of the opposite sex. Males with the desires of Females. It's a medical condition and it should be researched and treated medically...... the same way that we treat any other disorder that prevents a Human from developing normally.
96% of us are normal and don't need our gender roles destroyed. Honestly, any straight male is GROSSED THE F OUT by homosexual behavior. IT IS NOT NORMAL. STOP BEING APATHETIC you fucking autist. This matters.
>>77790390
Historically the second most relevant country in Europe after the UK, especially in colonial times.
Now not really relevant anymore, which is sad because I founf it beautiful when I visited
>>77790390
Got picked on by british rejects. Too bad for them.
>>77793267
Unemployement is real. For each person working "under the table" you have a person that doesn't count as unemployed because he's receiving the extended aid which puts you out of the unemployement statistics even if you're still unemployed. Also people that work a single day are out of the statistics for that entire month.
>>77793424
Basque country has a huge industry for two reasons: due to their independence movement a lot of money was destinated to finance their industry to appease them. Also they have the best working ethics in all the country plus really brilliant engineers. Some of the best worlwide industries (like PVC) are located there.
>>77794597
>reproductive system
nope, biology is the same it's in the brain. with 7 billion people in the world are you worried about reproduction?
>>77794626
Are you a cuck?
Your country, Italy, is the most relevant country. Your lands produced the Roman Empire, which affected the entire world and our way of life even today.
In order of relevance and importance to Europe:
1. Italy
2. Spain
3. UK
>>77794597
burger thinks that he understands science, claims that gay people think like women. Try harder my fat friend.
>>77794787
I was thinking about more recent times. The Roman empire was more than 2000 years ago. We have been irrelevant longer than Spain has if you don't count fascist times
>>77794755
Now you're playing semantics. Sexual desires is part of sexual reproductive system. We are programmed to be attracted to the opposite sex, and yes this is hormones and in the brain, but it's part of the reproductive system. It's not just the genitals.
>>77794787
honestly Italians =\= romans
>>77794835
A lot of Gay men are inherently interested in beauty hygiene, fashion, and such. Things that women are naturally into. Because women attract Men to mate through beauty.
It's staring you right in the face.
>>77794956
Why? The original Romans and the city of Rome and it's people were within the boundaries of modern Italy.
>>77794835
I'm sure theres an abnormality but it honestly doesn't matter. anyone who says it's "degeneracy" is a cuck whos too worried about other people's preferences
or has a really shit definition of degeneracy
>>77794692
Thoughts on Canary Islands?
>>77795041
Yea, but genetically we are not the same. We were invaded by germanic tribes and we have been occupated by France and Austria till not that long ago
>>77790390
>it is the Brittan of Latin America
>>77795041
culturally. Italy was a nationalist movement in the 19th century. Italian language is Tuscan. Italians just occupy the Roman home territory and have Roman influence like other romance language countries.
>>77795088
Our last colony, and you can´t take that one away, anglo scum.
>>77790390
I love our history. Reading about Conquistadors' biography has always been one of my favourites hobbies. It's just amazing how brave, adventurous and smart my countrymen were.
>>77795125
do you guys grandmother's drool over the spanish royal family like ours do with the brits?
>>77795082
It is degeneracy.
A Man, NATURALLY, is aggressive and strong.
How can you respect a man who gets on his knees and sucks another mans cock and enjoys being someones bitch?
IT IS DEGENERACY. This is NOT what represents Males.
>>77794787
>amerrican education
>>77795161
Lol. Do you think the ancient Romans just packed up and left? They are still there, they lived there through the centuries.
>>77795088
Never been there nor had any business relations with them so I can't really say.
>>77795266
lots of gays are ultra manly. it really doesn't matter. does being aggressive and strong correlate with an attraction to women or is it just the sex that males reproduce with? lots of homos are aggressive and strong. and you only looked at one side because there's a dominant male there too
>>77795339
Sorry French bro. Charlemagne was great. But your contributions don't surpass those of Italy, Spain, and UK
>>77795378
of course not. but still romans do not equal italians. Roman culture is LATIN. Italian culture is Italian. they speak Tuscan. romans weren't just in Italy. romans don't equal Spaniards. they don't equal frenchman.
>>77795391
No. The "dominant male" gets on his knees and sucks cock too.
No, they are not "ultra manly". I've had people tell me that shit before, and then I tell them to point out who they're talking about, and I can fucking tell the homosexual from 100 miles away. The way they move, talk, anything. Their feminine brain disorder shows through. It's not the same as a heterosexual.
A society needs STRONG defined Family and Gender roles, and Nature already passed these Gender roles unto us. We don't need to pollute it because we refuse to tell homosexuals that they need medical treatment.
Not going well, really. I'd say it's an problem on European level. Some countries (like Germany) have been sucking a good deal of the production from others. The financial and construction bubble did the final touch.
Even with the best tourism years ever, along with budget cuts, our the debt has grown a metric shitton. Thanks to all muslim countries going ape btw, that helped us a lot when tourists couldn't go anymore to those places. We also invested in a few ports to better receive passenger cruisers, which go on almost the whole year.
Prospects? I'd say European Council has been waiting after the national elections (in a week) to proclaim even further budget cuts. The commies are very close to win and EU don't want to stir up shit. So, when we get a government (doesn't matter who) and Europe commands to cut retirements a 10 or 20% along with similar cuts along the board, we'll start seeing some shit. The budget cuts have been very big during the last few years, but the government didn't touch the retirement amounts. When they do you can imagine we're going full Venezuela yolo because the popular party will lose even more support.
On the Brexit: after Britain gets out of of EU, Gibraltar will be isolated from Spain at the first excuse they give.
>>77793142
I wonder why all of our rapebabies and colonies hate us, i guess you need muslim dickfix.
>>77795602
how are we going to treat them? i thought you said it was a biological disorder and that I was playing semantics. so what's your plan on changing what someone finds attractive? do you jack off to lesbian porn?
>>77793142
>Toothpaste still bootyblasted over the 80 years war
>>77795625
TAKE IT BACK
VIVA LA GIBRALTAR
>>77795689
It's natural for Spain's ex-colonies to hate Spain.
Most colonies hate their founders. America hated England for a long time too.
>>77795791
I've typed enough to you. Go back to reddick. What the fuck are you doing on /pol/ you kike autist.
>>77796052
Just say what you think, which is imprison/cut balls/bromide shots. While the muslim negro neighbor drills your passive aggressive ass.
>>77796052
i just dont have a problem with gays. I don't see anything wrong with it. it doesn't hurt anyone. they're not hurting anyone. let them live their lives in peace. if a man or woman can find inner happiness and joy with another man or woman, thats perfectly ok. I don't care. people are gonna be attracted to who they're attracted to. they can be productive people and good friends. I don't think fucking a guy in the ass is a nice thing, but thats just me. degeneracy has nothing to do with sexuality. you can't really be born a degenerate. its something that happens to you with poor life choices. do you watch lesbian porn?
>>77796144
No, what I think is that the retard liberals like you should allow Medical science to research homosexuality and create a modern treatment or cure.
>>77796461
You keep thinking it's an illness because it goes against the will of God, yooo.
>>77796381
Pedophiles are born with a desire to fuck 3 year olds.
Are they not born "degenerates"?
Just because homo's are "two adults" doesn't change the fact that homosexuals are born with a medical disorder and should be offered modern humane medical treatment so they can be normal like the other 96% of us and stop fucking with our society.
>>77796461
you
can't
"cure"
sexual
preference
at least not now. we are very very far off from changing brain chemistry
>>77790390
Mexico of Europe basically.
>>77796500
It is an illness you fucking autist.
4% of the population is born with this medical disorder, in which a Human is born with the wrong sexual preference.
96% of us developed correctly.
>>77790390
Pretty cool country and people, historically and now, but politically they are totally irrelevant and withdrawn so people don't talk much about them.
Victim of Anglo propaganda to be honest.
Spanish is a beautiful language.
>>77796534
degeneracy is often from not being able to contain yourself. they're degenerate if they act on it because of what it causes (they deserve to die) but I mean they can't really decide they don't wanna fuck a 3 year old. I can't decide I don't wanna fuck asa akira
>>77796547
Once upon a time we couldn't treat schizophrenia or many other illnesses.
With enough research, homosexuality can be treated.
>>77796595
Mexico of Europe is Turkey and Albania/Kosovo.
>>77796663
prove it
>>77796651
I can tell you're young. You've been infected with PC bullshit. Your feels are telling you not to be mean and say the truth.
>>77796693
Actually, it's probably entire Balkans now that I think of it.
>>77791565
They never really recovered from being raped by napoleon.
>>77796750
On the contrary, we went down because Napoleon didn't rape us hard enough. Napoleon was bringing with him rationalism and illustration.
>>77796742
what's the truth? what is objectively wrong with my statements?
>>77794396
Because we didn't, we gave them back as they were no longer economically tenable. Same with France, we both stil have islands in the Caribbean and Britain has military bases in Canada, oh and muh Falklands
Colonies aren't about owning arbitrary clay, but having a cash cow that obeys.
>>77796604
who cares man, a lot more shit fucked up in the world that needs fixing.
Besides if they found a chemical that could make people straight that means the could also make one that turns you gay.
They have mixed too much with moors
>>77796958
gay chemtrails
>>77796899
Is that what they teach you Brits in school now? You "gave away" the American colonies because it didn't make enough money anymore?
>>77797033
nah they're tan but they're white. I don't see any effect with it anyways. plus moors are Caucasian anyways
>>77793142
Oddly accurate summary.
Spanish people are some of the most buttblasted people in the world when it comes to relatively inconsequential historical events. The amount of times I've heard muh pirates muh gibraltar is fucking unbelievable.
>>77790390
Sunny and beautiful.
>>77792488
Completely agree.
Spain is great, spanish leaders are trash.
>>77796958
See, this is another example of apathy.
The kikes have CONDITIONED you to say "who cares man" at the sight of 2 homosexuals.
It matters. Family Unit, Gender roles, etc. Just look at the shit going on now with "gender fluidity". It's all degeneracy and apathy allows it to continue.
The only way to stop all of it is to draw a line in the sand and say THIS IS WHAT MEN SHOULD BE LIKE FOR A STRONG AND PROSPEROUS NATION. And then denounce the faggots, trannies, kikes, and the rest of them for trying to pollute it.
>>77797033
Well you are going to find out about that the hard way won't you hans?
>>77797033
Ironic coming from you Hans. At least Spain had a reconquista to expel the moors, not invite them in.
>>77797033
They really didn't. Moors in Spain were Iberian converts and genetic research has proven that.
There was probably more Germanic settlement than Arab/Berber.
But Moorish period did influence culture.
>>77797176
bring back franco
>>77794787
I'd put France above all of them, with the U.K. a close second
>>77792594
What do you think of the people in the south, sort of Malaga region?
>>77797209
I prefer the Roman societal structure.
>>77797033
What was that, Merkel?
>>77797348
The Roman societal structure was basically a patriarchy.
>>77795244
>ate a spanish sausage
>tell my grandmother it taste like a normal sausage you can eat in USA just not red.
>grandma get offended and does talk to me for the rest of the day
>>77797064
Burger please do you know how much money you are losing on your glorious colonies like American Samoa and Purrto Rico? Those are welfare states literally living off of federal tax dollars from the mainland.
>>77796842
Oh I agree, I was just trying to say that since then you guys have been a disaster (no offence)
>>77793142
What is Europa Universalis
>>77797408
abuela ):
my tacoposter friend tells me southern Mexicans are the worst. is that true?
>>77794787
Spain shouldn't be on the list at all. Greece, Italy, Britain, France and Germany are all contenders and configure somewhere in the top 5. I think maybe you're confusing the Spanish with the Portuguese during the Age of Exploration?
>>77792488
Que buen vasallo sería si tuviera un buen señor
>>77797570
You're being very generous including Germany and Greece
>>77793934
>While having received only 18 rapefugees
We are bad at everything, even at being cucked
>>77797570
Settle down Britfag. Your hatred of Spain doesn't change history.
>>77797936
He's a yellow teethed Britcuck. He will include South Africa and anyone else as European in order to try and hate on Spain.
>>77797939
>not even inmigrants want to come anymore
God bless this mess of a country
>>77795202
Give recommendations of good ones, por favor.
>>77798119
Olle hermano, deberian irse a Sur America, a Peru. Cuando llegas y te preguntan porque estas en Peru, le dices "Este territorio era mio, estoy en mi casa"
>>77790390
in an airplane over the sea romanticises that country a lot italy has the better fencers imo
>>77794889
This is the most blatant naturalistic fallacy I've ever seen.
The average person is attracted to the opposite sex, but this fact alone doesn't imply that it's ethically -wrong-.
"We are programmed"? That doesn't mean anything, morally. Holy shit, get out and read a little. Hume is 300 years old now; it's mindblowing to see this autistic lack of abstract thought in this day and age.
Fucking off yourself before you have the chance to pass on your genes, please.
>>77797936
Greece exclusively for antiquity and laying the foundations of the Western world
>>77798014
>>77798080
t. Mexican "Hispanic"-American with no concept of history
I have nothing in particular against Spain but it was never one of the top European nations, deal with it
>>77797562
I have never gone past D.F. i'm what is referred to as norteno,
>>77798281
Pic sort of related
>>77798387
From what bullshit book is that?
>>77798619
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Accomplishment
>>77797397
Fundamentally different view on sex. The male head of household had to be manly but no one gave a shit about other faggots.
>>77798719
so why is denmark put as white when they have less achievements then sweden?
>>77798853
The actual book doesn't contain the white/not white notation, that was added by someone on this board
>>77798915
the european "core" is still really stupid, it does take into account that major cities bring in talented people from around the country.
any genius born in cornwall is going to end up doing research in london.
>>77799123
Yeah? But the accomplished people move and stay in those major cities, breeding future generations of intellectuals.
>>77799123
Read the text, it measures where people were raised, not where they conducted research
>>77790390
Historically, i'd like to thank them for bringing us a part of western culture. In modern times, they're mostly bro-tier to us.
>>77790390
Completely dysfunctional economy. Nativ population genetically speaking is 90% moorish, 9% gyppo and 1% celtiberian. So the natives are already arabs, but theyve continued to import more Arabs on massive scale. Culturally spaniards are nihilists, super left wing, have no family values. Other problems include: shit tier cities, poor preservation of cultural heritage, meh tier nature etc etc. Spain is third world and should be kicked out of the EU. Most of South America is doing better than the motherland economically. If you like Spanish culture and shit, move to Buenos Aires-- women are prettier and no mass importation of mudslimes
>>77790390
If it weren't for them, we'd be mudslimes right now.
>>77790390
la nación es una mierda, pero me gusta aprender la lengua, porqé las chicas son muy guapa.
>>77799527
Good b8
But I would agree that we are very left wing and nihilist
>>77799579
>>77799496
It makes me happy to know that we get the sympathy of the most powerful race in the world.
I think it's time to return the favour tho. We're dying. 1.1 native birthrate and the dark kin keep coming. I'd rather have a philippino or even chinesse invasion than another caliphate.
>>77793142
Gibraltar was lost due to an intern conflict (dinastic war) not in an all war with the british.
Inb4, Blas de Lezo BTFO the british so hard that their queen made a coin to celebrate a loss.
>>77799797
Olle hermano, deberian irse a Sur America, a Peru. Estan en su casa ahi
>>77798719
>>77798915
It was the white/not white I reacted on not the which country has given most to the world. That is probably accurate.
>>77793142
Spain was modernized with Franco, not we entered the CEE
>>77800180
I've thought about moving somewhere else many times but if I make a mistake I'm done. I don't have a home or a family to return to if I run out of money.
>>77800180
>Perú
Chile or Argentina are way better
Great place tbqh, I love Santiago even though it can be a leftist shithole every now and then since the university is such a huge factor of it.
>>77790390
Spain was the first modern nation and superpower and as such, it was a huge target of jews and masonic globalist powers of their time.
>Daily reminder that general Riego directed the trops gathered to pacify the American sublevations against the Crown and he's the highest symbol of the left.
>Daily reminder that the red and yellow flag is a liberal masonic flag and it's the highest symbol of the right
>Daily reminder that centralism is anti-Spanish
>Daily reminder that "democracy" and "parlamentarism" is anti-Spanish and if you vote PP, Vox or Ciudadanos you're part of the problem
>>77801031
Hispanic Nation in Iberia when??
jesus spain is shit and always been . i was there. full of 5'6'' brown manlets, smelly, ugly. terrible food, terrible architecture. basicalyl sand people.
>>77801031
Go to bed, Carlos Javier de Borbón-Parma
>>77801540
There are a lot of portubros in /pol/ that are against it
>>77801031
>Daily reminder that centralism is anti-Spanish
Agree, but almost all spanish nationalist are centralist, and usually anti-Catalonia
>>77801685
Sand people manage to have a much better economy then your slav shit hole.
>>77799797
>most powerful race
Wat XD
Is that an excessive compliment, because i don't really see ourselves as one. We're fine with "those chill guys" or whatever else you positively call us :P
And also, you wouldn't like a Chinese invasion, they'll assimilate the Catholic in us.
>>77801908
no they didnt. look at pre war stats. poland and us higher then germany and on level of austria. commies fucked us over, also thanks to you. and now we manage to surrpass them already in meaning of purchase power even we were under communism for 50 years. they are shit, get over it,
>>77790390
Great country, awesome people, chill, relaxed and outgoing, nice sense of humor. What's not to like?
>>77801540
I don't know. People has been too brainwashed at this point. I think we'd need a movement similar to the alt-Right in the US, to creat a space that can challenge the general mental conditioning. The Hispanic problem is cosmologic, not just politic.
>>77801782
I'm not a Carlist. I'm in between falangism and reactionarism.
>>77801825
>Agree, but almost all spanish nationalist are centralist, and usually anti-Catalonia
Becasue nationalism is degenerate, no matter if its Spanish or "Catalanish".
http://www.hispaniainfo.es/web/2012/03/30/patria-la-gaita-y-la-lira/
![What+does+fj+think+of+the+most+powerful+race+in_9b315b_5312154[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/m1gZl0C.png "What+does+fj+think+of+the+most+powerful+race+in 9b315b 5312154[1]")
>>77801936
Its true.
>>77801999
>muh pre-war ussr is mean boohoo
you haven't surpassed them they make on average 10k more then you a year.
>>77794787
Nah i think its more something like this:
UK because of the Industrial Age and the fact we're all speaking English
France because of the French Revolution
Spain because of the exploration age
Greece because of spreading white genes in Persia and Egypt and the founding of Democracy and beautiful art
Germany because of all its advances in music, culture and writting aswell as warfare
And finally Italy, the roman empire copied greece and we ought to keep in mind this was 2000 years ago, sure they were the largest empire in the Mediterranian but they didn't really make any outstanding inventions that we still use today, and none of us speak Latin so go figuere.
>>77801825
40% dos portugueses querem se unir à Espanha
http://blogs.estadao.com.br/marcos-guterman/40-dos-portugueses-querem-se-unir-a-espa/
Espanhóis querem anexar Portugal
http://www.jn.pt/arquivo/2006/interior/espanhois-querem-anexar-portugal-574606.html
>>77802140
Whoah. What the hell is this? This is cringey. Eugh.
There was a woman called Brites de Almeida, the Padeira of Aljubarrota (the baker-woman of Aljubarrota), who by herself killed eight Castilian soldiers as they were hiding in her bakery in the town of Aljubarrota after the battle.
>>77801540
>>77802244
Traitorous idiots like you should leave for Spain. You'd be making both countries smarter.
De Espanha nem bom vento nem bom casamento.
>>77802244
If you can read English you can write it.
>Look at me i'll speak my native language because im so cool and cultured
>>77802169
>they make on average 10k
are you retarded? purchase power is what matters. ofc it sounds good when someone makes 2 times more then you, but if same flat and same food costs 3x more its not that great. rly sometimes i cant wrap my head around how can someone be this fucking retarded.
>>77802374
>purchase power is what matters
hhaha no, ppp is subjective bullshit. your flats are cheaper because they are in shitholes and your food is cheaper because it is basically garbage.
>>77802483
They have awesome meth tho :^)
>>77802234
>Spain because of the exploration age
>Spain
>Discovering things on purpose
Kek. You found America on Portuguese designed ships. And you called it India.
>>77802339
these are the news titles, you dumb fuck
>>77802244
The Portugal-Spain "issue" is not prioritary. I think we should just work toghether rebuilding a traditionalist movement first. The own idea of "Espanha" is too offuscated in the modern mind to try to push an "anexionist" (and the term "anexión" itself denotes a centralist misunderstanding on the question.) We need Portugal to not forget what Spain actually is, we can't have another denaturalized nation in Iberia.
>>77802661
>to push an "anexionist"
an anexionist agenda*
>>77797244
>Franco
>Good
Muh poor little rivera
>>77802661
Jesus, Portuguese independence was almost 900 years ago. Portugal has a history of being NOT Spain for longer than the US have been NOT England.
You can barely keep Catalunia and Galicia and you want to annex a country that you've never been able to conquer by force despite being 3 times as big, under a crown and monarchy that we would never recognize, who's been fighting your kingdom's invasions for the better part of a millenium. All that because we shared common ancestors? The ones we fought against for independence in the first place?
We don't mind a large state or European federation with more memebers where we stand side-by-side, but an Iberian union under control of Spain is an insult to generations and generations of wars and rivalry and bloodshed.
You should've learned to fight better, or develop your own ships.
Who else voting Podemos to destroy Spain and force a second Civil War??
>>77803242
We pretend we care for you and invading you and shit because we know you're irrelevant and we're about the only country that remembers (barely) you're a thing.
>>77802310
>Traitorous idiots
Why?
>>77803355
>Not vox
>>77803387
>VOX
>Destroying Spain
Pick one
>>77803378
See >>77803242, boy. Portugal's allies have been the Brits, not the Spaniards for centuries.
>>77803361
"We don't really want you, we just tried to conquer you 4 major times and failed miserably every single one"
Sure thing, jamone.
>>77803361
>>77803242
in Galicia we still love Portugal. Come to us plz, we miss our brothers :(
>>77803460
>Vox
>Not kickstarting the ultimate civil war
senpai...
>>77803526
>S-sure y-yo-you care!1
>P-pw-pwease w-we p-pootugal s-stron-stronk!1
Naw, we gave up on that and shitpost here so moortuguese like you can pretend to be relevant.
>>77803242
>Portuguese independence was almost 900 years ago.
portuguese restoration war was 348 years ago
I actually want a coalition between Canary/Maderira/Azores
>>77803552
Galicia isn't too bad, I don't think. Fight for independence first, then talk about alliances.
>>77803620
Portugal was founded in 1143. We were briefly annexed to Spain for 60 years in 1580 because of royal marriage, but we fought back for independence in 1640. Spain was never really recognised as sovereign by the people.
>>77803620
He is talking about this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1383%E2%80%9385_Crisis
>>77803587
we are still fighting that war and need to stop the 1939 end of war meme.
we just dont kill eachother, but we clearly want to
spain was great.
now not so much.
>>77803587
>portugal stronk
eat shit, Spanny
>>77803871
Why is Spain so shitty?
>>77803526
i'm sick and tired of that fuckin' line between Portugal and Spain!!
>>77803940
Good question actually
>>77803732
you legally became part of spain, and only by external forces that profited from a divided iberia did you split.
>>77804026
Seriously why did you lose that war?
>>77803871
>Lower GDP than fucking POORLAND
>B-b-buh w-we w-won a-al-aljub-aljubarrota!1 Ol-oliven-olivenza i-s ours! AND WE'RE PROUDLY KEKED BY THE BRITISH!111
>>77804058
Portuguese are basically proud cucks to the british.
>tfw one of the few 20 year olds with a job
>>77803242
Dude it's just a thought. I don't really care about Portugal, other than for wishing you, as brothers, uncuckery and prosperity. Nobody in Spain literally wants to "anex" Portugal, but some of us are claming to recover the old idea of Spain as union of peoples not the fake monolithic "nacionalismo español" imposed by jews-masons in the 19th century, and Portugal it's something we like to remember, not due to some will of "conquer" but to keep fresh the memory of "las Españas", the medieval idea of spiritual unity that ultimately led to the best empire the world has ever known.
>>77804446
>tfw same here
>what does /pol/ think about spain?
Fuck spain
>>77804446
>>77804492
What's your job?
>>77804546
Why are you still so butthurt?
Angry Moroccans can't give your muslim dick fix as hard as we did?
>>77804546
Shut up, toothpaste.
>>77804596
Android ios .net c# mobile and web dev.
We don't need to be together at all, no one wants to unite the nordic countries just because they share a similar past.
What we need is something like that spainbro is suggesting, a strong nationalistic movement but disguised in a way that just doesn't seem like flat out fascism.
It doesn't matter who won or lost which battle with X or Y soldiers, if we keep commieshits and Marxists developing in our countries we'll soon be neither Spain or Portugal.
Our founders would roll in their graves if they knew they knew a pooinloo and leftists we're ruling our countries.
>>77790390
>It's a Spain thread.
>Doomed to be ruined.
Don't ask /pol/ about Spain, all you'll hear is: "They are 101% moors" "Gibraltar" and "Aljubarrota". We are one of the most hated country in the world, try asking somewhere else.
>>77804546
You need nowadays a Duque de Alba in the Low Countries.
>>77804596
I work at a studio doing advertisements for TV.
I do 3d rendering and videography.
>>77804489
No but you people should REALLY annex venezuela.
You would get rid of one of the world's most hated dictatorship and take control of one of the biggest oil reserves on the plant.
>>77790390
We could still being a superpower if we weren't governed by corrupts and retards.
Also we are underrated as fuck.
>>77790390
Literally the most pro faggot country in Europe nowadays.
Nuke us please.
>>77804643
Also the eternally anally genocided hollandese.
>>77804758
What's wrong with being gay?
kinkon es una mierda comparado conmigo
>>77804835
You tell me famalam
>>77804600
>>77804602
>>77804665
Come try me, the only thing you faggots ever did right was give birth to Franco, you bunch of commie anarchists.
You people look like niggers, no way any of you spics are European.
>>77805000
>commie anarchists
That does not sound possible.
>>77805000
>a fucking video in YouTube about a nigga that felt discriminated in her visit to Spain for being black
You should try harder.
>>77790390
I admire the fact that Spain won't give Ceuta, Melilla or any of it's coastal territories to the Moroccans.
>"Morocco denies these claims and maintains that the Spanish presence on or near its coast is a remnant of the colonial past which should be ended".
>colonial past
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melilla#Dispute_with_Morocco
This coming from the people that invaded and occupied Spain for hundreds of years...
>>77804631
Pretty nice. Did you study an FP? I do webdev as a freelance but almost everything I've learned on the Internet, I didn't study anything bast bachillerato.
>>77804672
That's cool too man. Btw you know that pic is gay right?
>>77804686
Can't do when you are a colony already (a colony of the EU).
>>77805000
>Franco
>Good
Why'd expect a watery semite to be smart?
>>77805111
Yes studying a .net and c# course, prolly going to university next year for EE and industrial automation.
>>77805074
Second spanish republic tho...
>>77805000
Funny thing about that video, the place where she went, is my town. I laughed so much listening to her story.
And my grandfather was a big fascist, he fought the communists in the civil war, so please, shut up.
is this a huge embarrassment to your country spain? I feel like it would be if I was a spaniard
>>77805257
>Franco
>Not good
Nigga, what?
>>77805389
Well that's the reason the Brexit won't succeed, so I've got mixed feelings about it.
>>77805389
We gave it in a peace treaty, so, no, they can keep it.
BUT THEY NEED TO RESPECT THE NATIONAL WATERS!
>>77805462
>Franco
>Good
I want that drugs too
>>77805335
Communists literally genocided anarchists tho.
>>77805074
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
These spics did a field test with it because they're animals.
>>77805091
Shut up Alejandro, filthy beaner.
>>77805257
It's Swamp German Santiago, we got less kikes than you because the Germans cooked them all.
>>77805366
Good for your grandfather Mateo, did he also suck a lot of dick in Catalonia?
>>77805549
Drugs are for scummy leftist. Franco was objectivelly good and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>77805627
Anarcho-Comunism have never been present in Spain. You're mistaking it with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism
>>77804426
Kek, you did the same thing for fucking FRANCE. France kicked your ass as well, and their country went on to invent tanks that had 5 reverse gears so they could FLEE faster.
AND you're the ones that need a British Gibraltar plug in your ass to keep the moors out. We made allies with them and in exchange for reinforcements we gave them Tea, which now they are known for.
Listen Spannys, nobody's arguing that Portugal (or Spain, for that matter) still has the strength and power it once had, Ozymandias and whatnot, but there are two things we did that you will never be able to take from us:
a) We kicked Spaniard ass time and time again.
b) We sailed like motherfuckers.
When faced with the fact that our geographical conditions would forever tie us to Spain, we made the Caravel, a boat that could go against the wind, a literal fucking force of Nature, just to be able to trade with the Indians without needing to talk to you or the middle-east Jews.
And you copied us and you found the wrong fucking continent.
If you want an Iberian union, call it Portugal.
>>77797476
The same studie say that spanish are 20% jew, it's impossible
>>77805707
Ofcourse you would know, filthy commie spic, shouldn't you be killing some aztec jungleniggers?
>>77805389
we dont give a fuck about that fuckin rock.
Problem is a lot of people uses it to evade taxes and tobacco smugling.
Also, they fuck up our fishermen work by trhowing shit to the sea.
If brexit happens, gibraltar will beg for Spanish protection
>>77805627
Nope, he came back to Galicia as soon as the war ended, and lived a happy and long life.
Oh, and i found the video. Funny af.
https://youtu.be/xjEm-KQpdSE
>>77805760
Awesome flag m8
Did you design this?
>>77805628
he actually stopped the commies from getting into power, so yeah, even with the Civil War, he was the best worst for Spain
>>77805111
Yeah Gwyndolyn is a boy, and?
>>77804928
Pls don't spam your shit.
>>77805760
Nice delusion.
>>77805809
Shouldn't you be smoking marijuana and fucking tranny prostitutes in a brothel while your women import third worlders for that BBC they crave?
>>77805760
At least France was not a hertic nation. You literally sided with heretics jews. Eternal France was our friend, revolutionary "France" no, we kicked their gay asses. Cuck.
>>77805462
>Killing based rivera
>Demonizing spain 5 evah
>"Good"
>>77806143
I'm most falangist than you. But
1) He didn't kill Primo de Rivera.
2) He ruled the country best than anyone else in the last 200 years
>>77805111
>Can't do when you are a colony already
yes that is the problem with the current spain, it is completely unwilling to project force internationally.
EU has helped in some ways but it has also killed a sens of nationalism and global responsibility.
>>77806093
The dutchies have a natural need to hate spain, that's because they're rightful clay.
>>77790390
Cortes should have finished the job
>>77806093
how white were you guys again?
How bad is American politics doing for whites?
They're our best neighbor.
>>77805760
But seriously you should check that inferiority complex. Literally every thread about Spain will have at least one butthurt portuguese, no matter what board is it.
>>77798232
*Oye
Hablas bastante bien, friendo.
>>77805950
It was thrown around in a thread yesterday.
Some guy made a colour swap using red instead of white. And I found it looked really good.
>>77806290
come try second rate pastaniggers, we'll fuck you up again.
>>77799741
Me explicas el grafico? que grupo representa cada color?
>>77806143
>>Demonizing spain 5 evah
And btw, you're the one doing it right now, perpetuating the leftist globalist jewish conditioning. You will literally never win a discussion with a leftist if you are still in the defensive weak position doing shit like arguing that Franco wasn't somehow good.
>>77806277
The Eu has not helped at all. With Franco Spain was:
>Stronger militarily
>Strong industries
>Strong agriculture
>Better education
>Borders
>No NATO cucks
Now all that is gone. I fucking wish UK leaves and that creates a chain effect that eventually set us all free.
>>77806418
>we
France and England, and yet it took your people 150 years to get the independence with two major powers helping you and playing local.
Good work there.
>>77806316
>How bad is American politics doing for whites?
Not too bad, actually.
>>77806342
>One
Every spanish thread triggers:
Dutchies (need their spanish rape fix)
Assorted clay (same as dutchies)
Portuguese (They need relevance since only spaniards know they're a country (a shitty one, but we pretend they're not))
King Charles the inbred retard
>>77805760
you forgot
c) get cucked by your """ally""" england into losing all your colonies and becoming irrelevant.
>>77806418
>Pasta
We're bullniggers since we've cucked nearly every country in the world.
Like yours.
>>77790390
Every Spanish tourist here walks really slow, I mean really slow.
>>77806342
Just ignore him, as an azorean. (Who's family came from based gailcia some 500 years ago) I understand that we share a...long history, in the modern day the two countries have no real reason to fight and bicker like this.
Im a luso who supports a united Portugal and gailcia.
Or and this second one is only if both countries and fix the refugee /Roma and overly leftist problems.
An iberian union.
>>77806678
>Tourists
>Ireland
Anon, those are undead spaniards that walked from the armada wreck to your island.
>>77806001
>Pls don't spam your shit.
That's rich coming from the neotenous faggot who can't make a single post without his weeb crap.
If you were smart you and your pedoboyfriend would be fighting against all the public homosexual degeneracy so you could go back to roleplaying as little anime girls in the closet without anybody giving a shit. But instead you will defend any and all homo behavior everywhere no matter how aberrant it looks to the general public because in the end you are a dumb fag like the vast majority of fags, guaranteeing that the eventual blowback will be a lot worse than it needs to be (just crack open a history book, these phases of mass homo acceptance never last very long).
>>77806784
Kek, I wish that was the case, ghosts are ethereal and therefore you can walk through them.
>>77806685
Galicia doesn't belong to Portugal, stop with the meme.
>>77790390
Thanks to decades of post franco educational system 90% of young adults and teenagers are hardcore turbo commies who hate their country with furry.
If we had more money like France and Germany we would receive millions and millions rapefugees and dindus without a second thought.
This country is doomed.
>tfw balearic
We might as well be a different country
>>77798387
>Austria-Hungary
>Slovakia as a separate country
Kek
>>77806811
Anon what are you even talking about?
>>77806995
Gailcia has more in common with portugal than it does with Spain.
Im sorry boss. Also serious question...what do the moroccan territories even do in modern spain.
I mean I know portugal took cetau trying to tap the Silk market.
>>77790390
great country. has rough times now. But the sun will rise once again.
>>77807331
>Gailcia has more in common with portugal than it does with Spain.
????
r u fucking stupid guiri?
Same like all of the big Southern European countries such as Italy, Greece etc.
>GOAT history, culture, landscape and food
>Not really economically blessed, tend to left-wing politics
>destroyed their huge potential because of shit management
>>77807331
You're retarded.
>>77807331
>Gailcia has more in common with portugal than it does with Spain.
Galicia has more in common with Asturias than it does with Portugal.
>>77806529
You're just mad you couldn't control a country like mine Francesco.
>>77806548
Trump is tanking hard, Hillary's victory is almost inevitable now.
Enjoy putting your white interests dead last for the next 4 years, maybe you get something else after Hillary, if the right can ever restore their position in America KEK.
>>77806650
You're pasta slurping niggers who suck at soccer.
>>77804835
Every time there is a Spain thread on /pol/, a gay Spaniard always appears, including that one trap will kept posting his feet.
>>77807291
>Ask what's wrong with gays
>Post real evidence of what's wrong with gays
>waaa waaa stop spamming things that make gays look bad
Dumb fag
>>77807291
He's right but maybe you're too dumb to understand. I think you might be genetically unable to articulate complex thought.Your kind should not allowed to express their opinions publicly for your own good.
What if you guys set up some sort of Iberian confederation with Spain, Portugal, Galicia, Catalonia, and Basque country?
>>77807381
More connected history, culture and language.
(I mean they speak portuguese with a spanish accent for fuck sake)
Even from a biological standpoint they are more related to portuguese stock.
AND yes...portugal did come from gailcia.
So instead of just going
>Are you st00pid >:^(
Provide some counter arguments
Also tell me why you even hold on to cetua still you damn dirty ape.
>>77807498
That is true.
I'll admit I didn't think of that one.
>>77807531
>>>>77806650
You're pasta slurping niggers who suck at soccer.
https://youtu.be/QwADqit3dBE
https://youtu.be/nmVstWkIpY0
>>77807707
That's literally what "Spain" means. Spain it's not an iberian region is the union of all of them (except Portugal because reasons). Spain = Iberia. Jew masons in the 19th century pushed centralism and parlamentarism and destroyed the milenary constitutions of our kingdoms and put in place a liberal constitution for all the "Nation". Since then we've suffered 4 civil wars. It's not something people wanna mess with atm
>>77807733
They don't speak portuguese, they both descend from the same proto-language.
Genetically they're closer to Asturias, followed by Northern Castilla and Northern Portugal.
>>77807944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqNE7zoKjgM
>5-1
YOU PASTANIGS CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT
![Map_of_the_Habsburg_Netherlands_by_Alexis-Marie_Gochet[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JOvVL4M.png "Map of the Habsburg Netherlands by Alexis-Marie Gochet[1]")
>>77793142
Just rightful spanish clay. Snowniggermerchant still mad that we fucked them up for some time. Don't worry, we dead now.
>>77807604
Yeah that's me.
Hello!
>>77807965
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
>>77808063
Ayyyyyyyy, still better than you, toothpaste.
btw, how many WC have you won?
>>77807986
I know they literally don't speak portuguese, I just mean ive spoken with gailcians , they aren't that hard to understand, rather easy really, in fact I find speaking to a Mexican easier than speaking with someone from central or southern spain.
What is Grandfather Asturias up too these days? I don't ever hear anything about it, not even on /pol/, which is a shock seeing as how catalonia posters make it seem like spain is about to pop.
>>77808301
You don't hear about loyal regions: Asturias (a bit commie, but Spanish), Castile, Andalusia, Extremadura, Valencia, Baleares, Navarra, Alaba.
You'd only hear about Catalania and literally two Basque provinces. What would be the cause of that, I wonder?
Could a Spaniard bro explain to me the articulation, the differences and relations between falangism, carlism, francoism, reactionism in Spain, both in theory and in practice?
>pic related is of glorious leaning tower of Zaragoza destroyed in the wake of ecclesiastical confiscations pushed by crypto-juice masonic prime minister Mendizabal
>>77808301
Asturian here, People of Asturias turned to the left because muh coal, and muh miners, at least we are still proud of the reconquista and Asturias legacy as a whole without secession bullshit, there is an old "slogan" that says
"Asturias is Spain and the rest just conquered lands"
but it used to be like this:
"Asturias is Spain and the rest just moors and jews"
>>77808126
>tfw you fucked my city up so hard it lost its nr. 1 spot as economic power and all trade immigrated to Amsterdam
g-g-gracias Señor
>>77808453
Hmm. I guess the media just over plays it.
Because every few weeks I'll see somthing like "Will spain be able to see 2020 ? " and shit like that.
>>77808607
Kek. Well so long as iberia isn't turning into sweden I guess im happy.
>>77808630
I guess bois will be bois.
>>77808063
Things spain can do better than netherlands
>Win world cups
So much hate in this thread. I love it.
>>77808265
>>77808976
rekt that toothpaste
>>77808704
As an Asturian it fells like shit seeing your beloved and go to shit because some leftist faggots, i still consider Asturias one of the most based places in Spain, but it still hurts inside
>>77808063
I remember being in Spain when they won the WC, it was awesome. They played a lot cleaner than the Hollanders too.
>>77808559
>falangism: nationalist, sindicalist, anticapitalist and revolutionary, usually republican
>carlism: traditionalist, monarchist, reactionary
>francoism: pretty much your average conservative military dictatorship, protectionist but not as anticapitalist as falangism
Falangists and carlist fought together, but didn't like each other so much. Franco ordered to unite both movements and killed a lot of falangists who disagreed.
>>77808630
>>77809141
Traitor scum.
>>77809038
I cant wait to bully Americans when Trump loses.
where the latina qts at
>>77808177
Do you feel the need to defend your nation's honour with your feet?
>>77809175
I agree, and I think that francoism was just the practical lever between those two. There are a lot of people both from the falange and carlistas that considered franco a traitor but there wasn't any other way to merge those two movements up. It was a deal that made them both uncomfortable.
>>77809064
I can only imagine, well in my booKS northern spain is best spain. You're all brother's as far as I care. Just so long as no one goes full Allah akbar.
>>77809381
What do you mean?
>>77808559
>falangism
Falange Española's actual set of ideas are known as national-syndicalism, "falangism" doesn't actually exist in Spanish. National-syndicalism is our own version of Fascism. Means of production belong to the syndicate that are a hierarchical structure, organic democracy through direct representation of those syndicates, and townships, etc. It's a revolutionary and republican movement. Totalitarism but not collectivism, since the center of the political apparatus is the person (personalism as opposed to individualism). Organic democracy over parlamentarism. But essentially, Spanish Fascism.
>Carlism
When Fernando VII died the throne passed to his brother Carlos, but the liberals crowned her child-daughter and destroyed our milenary constitutions and laws and replaced them with a single liberal masonic constitution for all the Spanish kingdoms, imposed centralism and political liberalism. So Carlism is a Traditionalist movement against liberalism.
>Francoism
In its first stage it was a sincretism of "falangism" and carlism. In its second stage was a nationalistic technocracy. Ideologically known as National-Catholicism.
>Reactionairm
I don't know. I consider myself one because I sympathise with the 3 mentioned above. For me its an anti-liberalism reaction mainly, anti-democracy, anti-centralism, anti-globalisim, etc.
>>77809249
dont be salty m8, im sure your country is good at something other than
>DUDE WEED LMAO
>>77809536
Galicians, Asturians and Basques are bros, Cantabria is a shithole without any identity nor pride, fuck them
>>77809712
Ahí falaches ho!
>>77809695
We're great in millions of way, you're the one who loves niggers here.
>>77809884
You're the greatest at NOT winning world cups, that's for sure.
>>77809675
¿Eres falangista? ¿Me explicas lo de la democracia orgánica? No lego a entender que quiere decir.
>>77809884
oh yeah we love niggers free labor
>>77809955
FUCKING BEANER SPICS, COME TRY US.
>>77809712
I heard there are some BNG faggots that want a piece of asturias.
>>77809884
chill bro, or you´ll break your teeth, and your national flag will be even more useless than it is now.
>>77810001
No soy falangista (milité hace unos años pero ahora mismo no pertenezco a nada).
La democracia orgánica significa participativa a través de los medios de vida naturales del hombre (el trabajo, la familia, el municipio) en lugar de medios inorgánicos (partidos políticos, parlamento).
>>77809675
>>77809175
How reactionary was the Falange? Was it anticlerical? What critiques did they oppose to carlists?
Which do you think is/was the most efficient in its opposition to globalization/the juice?
>>77790390
American flag.
Let me guess.
you thnk your "spanish"
HGAHAHAHAHA Mexicans man. they are hilarious.
>>77796629
this montenigger knows his shit
>>77810268
Falange wasn't reactionary lad. And no it wasn't antierical, it wasn't anti-anything actually.
>>77793952
They ARE the end of civilisation, the complete lack of morality and principles in favor of hedonism, you apologist retard
>>77810268
Falange was vanguardist and revolutionary.
As for the second questoin:
"Our movement incorporates the Catholic sense -of glorious tradition and predominant in Spain- to the national reconstruction. Church and State will coordinate their respective faculties without intromision that undermine the dignity of the State of the national integrity."
>>77810259
¿Y como funciona exactamente un sindicato vertical? Es otro concepto que se me hace raro.
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>>77810231
Por pedir que no falte, también se comen El Bierzo y otros cachos de aqui y de allá... Como todos los partidos nacionalistas en España que se tienen que crear un nuevo pais.
Por lo menos el BNG nunco tuvo aqui mucha fuerza ni apoyo, incluso en estos tiempos donde inclina hacia la izquierda con la aparición de En marea, Anova y todas estas mierdas les comieron el cupo de votantes.
La cuestión del fracaso del BNG esta en su propia afiliación ideologica, si fueran un partido nacionalista de centro-derecha como fue en su momento el PNV podríamos estar hablando de otro cantar. Aquí siempre se ha votado y se votará conservador (excepto si sigue el lavado de cerebros en las nuevas generaciones).
>>77810861
>Capitalismo
Los medios de producción pertenecen a Fulano Fulánez e Hijos, S.A.
>Comunismo
Los medios de producción pertenecen a Hugo Chávez
>Sindicato vertical
Los medios de producción pertenecen al sindicato, que es conjunto de los productores (ya sean empresarios o trabajadores) que trabajan en una determinada rama de producción.
Sindicato vertical es más o menos como una cooperativa, pero más grande.
>>77811046
Pero como pueden los medios de producción pertenecer a la vez a empresario y trabajador, "empresario" implica que los medios le pertenecen a él.
>>77810732
>>77810819
I don't understand this dislike for the word "reactionary".
To me, "reaction" is the most appropriate word for contestation of liberalism and the continuous downfall of humanity.
Aren't the Falange reactionary in their contestation of liberalism?
And what brang them to abandon monarchism which is what made Spain great in the first place?
What I'm trying to understand here is which movement was the most legitimate answer for Spain.
What brings an antiliberal Spaniard to choose one side or the other? I think you are both pro-Falange, maybe you could explain what brang you that way rather than carlism.
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