http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/brock-turners-full-statement-is-released/news-story/6e8980061b4082b843404967fc4e2764
>she gave consent for fingering her vag
How the hell is this a case of rape? They were on their way to his dorm room, what did she think was about to happen?
>>76599999
nice
>>76599999
Here come dem quintuplets.
Oh shit waddup
>>76599999
He writes like a retard. Nice quints btw
>>76599999
do you even NINE ?
>>76599999
that's a lie
nice try faggot
JUST
>>76600466
>>76600322
Damn, checked.
if he was so drunk how could he retell his story in detail?
>>76599999
IF THE QUINTS STICK
YOU MUST AQUIT
>>76599999
DUBSDUBSDUBS
Your Honor, how do you find these quints?
>>76599999
>They were on their way to his dorm room
1. they were behind a dumpster.
2. people go to dorm rooms for more than just sex.
3. wanting to go home with a guy is not permission for him to assault your passed out body while in the streets.
>>76603829
>people go to dorm rooms for more than just sex
Like what? I never even slept in my room during college
>>76603829
1. Some chicks like it outside.
2. That other thing is drugs and alcohol and it's usually followed by sex.
3. Permission is permission and he says she gave it. She says she was in the middle of a blackout and "doesn't remember".
>>76603917
well since your dorm room is basically your house, people can come over for basically any reason.
>>76604019
>1. Some chicks like it outside.
whats that have to do with them supposedly being in his dorm room?
>2. That other thing is drugs and alcohol and it's usually followed by sex.
there are many reasons for going to a dorm room, just because you're to simple to understand them doesnt mean they exist.
>3. Permission is permission and he says she gave it. She says she was in the middle of a blackout and "doesn't remember".
i'll bet she didnt give him permission to assault her unconscious body. most girls tend to be odd about that.
Can't make this shit up
/pol/ siding with a fucking rapist.
I feel like I'm of a pretty open mindset but this greasy cunt is a rapist. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail.
inb4 you are too edgy and think raping someone blacked out is somehow ok...
>>76604055
the premise of cool parties is getting laid. they sell this idea to men and women from age 7. the premise of drinking at cool parties is to get laid. this is how hte media SELLS it.
so now, a 20 something boy and girl, go to a party, and get drunk, and she gives him permission to fist her fucking cunt, and she consents to go home, and it doesn't mean sex?
FREE LOVE SEX IS GREAT. WAIT BUT NO, SEX IS AWFUL OH NO WHAT DO I DO
>>76599999
She was too intoxicated to give informed consent. She was unconscious when he dry humped her.
It isn't a case of rape, which is why he wasn't charged or convicted of rape.
It's just another case of our Marxist, amateur blogging style media riling up click b8.
>>76604510
>she consents to go home, and it doesn't mean sex?
nope. home doesnt = sex. and it definitely doesnt equal being raped behind a dumpster while passed out.
>>76604264
Hello.
1. You're the one that mentioned "found behind dumpster." Some chicks like to screw outside.
2. People of the opposite sex who do not already know one another generally do not follow strangers back to their home late at night. Unless it's for dope or to fuck. Then they'll follow a stranger into a torture dungeon.
3. He says she gave him permission to touch. She says she was blacked out and does not remember. Plenty of drinkers can tell you about blackouts. I have said plenty of things I should not have said during an alcohol induced blackout. It happens.
>>76599999
you know it'd be great if somebody counter-sued the alleged "rape-victim" to set a precedent
because it is clearly fucking needed to remind someone that the law applies to everyone
>>76599999
way to derail your own thread, op
>>76599999
because women literally cant be trusted to make adult decisions or expected to deal with their consequences. the real problem is that theyre allowed the same rights as men.
>>76604347
I think a dude dry humping a blacked out chick who wanted to fuck him anyway going to prison for 6 months and spending a lifetime on a public register as a sex offender is fair enough punishment and that this getting multiple headline updates every day and causing massive outrage while the same media sources completely ignore or dismiss much worse behavior by illegal migrants is retarded.
>>76604347
nice try, rooposter
>>76604510
it's to make you afraid of sex. overpopulation is the #1 threat to the continued survival of the species
>>76604590
>culture agrees sex is cool, and cool people have sex
>fights for right to have sex
>parties are cool because people have sex
>go to party for the excitemen of seeking sex
>cooler parties have MORE sex, go to cooler party
>purposefully inebriate yourself to increase chances of sex
>has sex
oh no, clearly it's rape.
this is what happens to liberals when they win victories for 100 years in a row
>>76604264
>i'll bet she didnt give him permission to assault her unconscious body.
at what point did she become unconcious
>>76604660
This guy gets it. I've said some stupid shit while blackout drunk as a teenager and can't remember. If I wasn't such an autist back then I could have easily had sex and not remembered.
>>76604328
SWEDEN YES
>>76604730
THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS.
http://www.tosavealife.com/rape-victim-reads-emotional-letter-attacker-court/
Just reading her talk about her rape you can tell she's been waiting her entire life to have an excuse to become a victim so she can be the alpha tumblirite.
>>76604660
>1. You're the one that mentioned "found behind dumpster." Some chicks like to screw outside.
yes, i mentioned it as a response to someone saying they were going to his room to fuck. if she agreed to go to his room, why was her body found behind a dumpster?
>2. People of the opposite sex who do not already know one another generally do not follow strangers back to their home late at night. Unless it's for dope or to fuck.
i've had girls come to my room late at night, not to fuck. it does happen. hell, even if they were going there to fuck, that doesnt give him the right to rape her unconscious body outside.
>3. He says she gave him permission to touch. She says she was blacked out and does not remember. Plenty of drinkers can tell you about blackouts. I have said plenty of things I should not have said during an alcohol induced blackout. It happens.
it does happen. still not ok to fuck with an unconscious person.
>>76604328
holy kek
>le tanned swede
>>76604328
so he didn't even really rape her?
>>76599999
well ill say, checkem
>>76604861
idiots are conflating blacking out with unconsciousness
blacking out just means you don't remember anything. they use that word on purpose to make it sound like he was fisting her limp body
she consented and was probably moaning in pleasure, she just doesn't remember
>>76604969
Again, he's saying she wasn't unconscious when he fingered her
>>76603829
Women who get blackout drunk (dumb thing #1) and leave their groups of friends/trusted people (dumb thing #2) are probably going to get raped... probably by some dude who is also blackout drunk. While not ALL rapes can be avoided, many of them can if women would just use some goddamn common sense. Don't get blackout drunk. Don't be around guys who are irrationally drunk (if they're slurring, don't be around them). Don't wander away from your group of friends. Don't leave your drink unattended.
Look at that, you followed my simple advice and lowered your chances of being raped by 80%! Congratulations, you're on your way to being a responsible adult!
>>76605037
No. The witnesses and po po said she was unconscious.
>fingered
>raped
chose 1
>>76599999
> come to the chins
> try and make it serious post
> everybody too busy talking about your repetitive numbers to discuss the actual issue
> who gives a fuck rolled Quints mother fucker
> best day of op's life
>>76604893
I've had sex while blacked out and been extremely disappointed in my choice of mate in the morning. I didn't press charges against the fat girl because I MADE A BAD DECISION, either.
thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFt-qtbU1g0
>>76605004
no, but they've been fishing for this story for a decade, nearly. first there was duke lacross, then there was mattress bitch, and so on and so forth.
they've had SO much trouble getting a conviction ecause 90% of these cases are made up that most outlets are running this story as "the white privilege of rapists." to try and make it as if duke lacross et al weren't simply hoaxes, to try and whitewash the fact that every single one has been fake up until now
this is why peter thield among others is beginning to finance lawsuits against major media outlets. I expect trump to help him out with this
>>76604660
Anyone with a bit of awareness knows that for the last few years, drunk women cannot consent to a sexual act.
Whether we like it or not, that's the new legal climate.
1) Male students need to be very careful, ideally keep sexual liasons to women not at college
2) Females will increasingly be starved of male attention, which makes them angsty and refeeds this negative "SJW" loop
>>76604328
And when they get back to Swedenistan, they won't lift a finger to save a Swede from a mudslime forced gang-bang.
>>76605048
>Again, he's saying she wasn't unconscious when he fingered her
he was on top of her unconscious body and thrusting when he was found by other people. turns out that's actually illegal.
>>76604969
>i've had girls come to my room late at night, not to fuck.
>>76605084
yeah she was dumb and it was obvious he was going to do this, but that doesnt really make it her fault. stupidity should not be punishable by rape.
>>76604969
>i've had girls come to my room late at night, not to fuck.
>spending time with a female that youre not related to or fucking
but why?
>>76605248
If I was a college student now I simply wouldn't get drunk in the presence of women, and I certainly wouldn't have casual sex with a college girl. I'd be wary about dating them even.
>>76604969
You seem to have a SUPREME command of the facts of that evening. Were you there? How do you know what this drunken woman whispered in this kid's ear? I've been around blackout drunks before that were the life of the party one minute and unconscious the very next.
Oh, I'd also like to address your new point #2.
>Grills come to my room l8, not 2 fuck.
And you knew them before they got there. These two were complete strangers to one another. She went chasing that swimmer's body because she was loaded and her boyfriend wouldn't find out, was about to convert, but her margaritas got in the way, now she has to press charges so she doesn't look like the old woman trying to play cougar with the college kid while her boyfriend was out of town.
>>76605324
>he's never made friends with people in real life.
>>76599999
She is lucky she went unconscious. She would have had her reputation destroyed if she was caught in the act of cheating on her boyfriend with a Chad consciously. She clearly went unconscious midway either that or he dragged her unconcious body to a dumpster through a busy party which is unlikely.
>>76605140
This what the fuck
Everyone on the Internet is calling this rape which is fucking stupid
>>76605398
She didn't get raped.
>>76605482
>And you knew them before they got there.
mmm nope.
>>76605488
Very poor attempt at shaming tactics, cuck.
6 months seems ok to me. She has no long term effects, she apparently cant even remember what happened. She shouldn't have got drunk. He shouldn't have tried to have sex while drunk. Fuck it 6 months is fair imo for this situation.
>>76604328
>mfw svedshit is spreading
>mfw consented interaction is now rape
>mfw the inevitable endpoint of this garbage is the sjw conviction that all hetero sexual interaction is rape
>tfw the rage I feel at this new reality makes me want to lash out but that would only strengthen their platform
What the fuck can I even do anymore /pol/? I want to fuck off to the woods like Ted kaczynski but there is nowhere (with good wilderness) where you can live that isn't encroached upon by this shitty society.
I get it now. I finally fucking understand the urge to blow up a building. Next time there is an sjw gathering I will release anthrax, mark my words.
>>76605515
>hurr its not rape its sexual assault durp.
fuck off faggot.
>>76605514
He didn't even finger her when she was unconscious (according to him, and "maybe" to her). He was caught with his pants down, underwear on, grinding his crotch into her while she was either passed out or borderline passed out.
They're fucking desperately reaching to make CIS White Male College Rapist Privilege a thing.
>>76605488
>spending time with girls without intending to fuck them
>>76605248
Your statement is very true.
>>76605599
Well, it's not rape.
If I get punched in the face, it's not murder.
If a dude rubs his clothed body on you, it's sexual assault, not rape.
Don't be such a hysterical faggot.
>>76605515
>She didn't get raped
that's the biggest thing, they went for the homerun.
he molested her, not rape.
>>76604328
>“It should be noted that several times throughout giving his statement, Jonsson became very upset, to the point where he began crying while recounting the incident,” the report read.
Jesus Christ Sweden what have you done?
>>76601101
full blown memory loss from being drunk is a lie dumb bitches tell themselves to justify them being a slut the night before
>>76599999
Because for starters she was unconscious. You literally can't get a more solid definition of rape.
>>76605515
in america penetrating someone is rape
>>76605594
Better than britbongs, desu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-36481127
>has to tell police 24 hours before he has sex with anyone
>was cleared of rape/crime after 14 months remand
>>76605535
So, you just have streams of strange women coming to your room at all hours of the night . . . because . . .
Dude, your cocaine empire is sure to flourish.
>>76605789
He wasn't caught penetrating her. He was caught humping her.
He wasn't charged with, or convicted of, rape.
Why do women act like mild sexual fondling that they can't remember is some traumatic thing? Is it because society tells them it is? Is it because they're just looking for attention?
I had a male friend who once woke up to a girl he knew sucking him off, he thought it was kind of odd but he didn't really care much.
>>76605514
In your country it is - in our country I think its only sexual assault.
Either way - its destroyed this girls life - the stories of her inspection and photographing of her genitals afterwards are truly harrowing.
>>76605776
Then why wasn't he convicted of rape?
>>76605825
>So, you just have streams of strange women coming to your room at all hours of the night . . . because . . .
because i go to parties and meet people and we need places to go when the parties die out.
>Dude, your cocaine empire is sure to flourish.
nope. stopped that years ago.
>>76605776
how about "sex is involved?"
>>76604969
>i've had girls come to my room late at night, not to fuck.
literally just kill yourself bitch boy.
>>76605906
Because she got less money than he does. Come on now, that's Anglo 101 for beginners.
>>76605890
>believing the vaginal jew
>>76605868
>He wasn't charged with, or convicted of, rape.
he was however charged with and convicted of assault with intent to rape.
Why is rape even a crime? Women have one purpose, and that's to be used as cum dumpsters behind dumpsters. If you don't want to be used as such, submit yourself as property to one man, and he will probably dump his cum in you in a nicer place than behind a dumpster if you cook and clean well enough and don't mouth off.
>>76605890
>Getting your junk inspected and photographed is harrowing
Jesus christ, modern society is turning into a cry baby puddle.
>>76605890
>>76605776
Nice trolls
>>76605934
>i should kill myself for getting to know people
ok, NEET. some of us actually get out of our mom's husband's basement.
>>76605931
And who do you invite back to your house? Grills you would like to fuck? Or just the ugly and fat ones?
>>76599999
JUST
(nice digits btw)
>>76605963
He has more money than the government?
Are you retarded?
>>76605994
Precisely.
Maybe he was going to rape her. Maybe not (well, I guess we can say legally he was).
It hadn't gone that far yet before he was apprehended by the Swedes.
>>76606044
Nice troll.
The guys who pulled him off her were Swedes. That should tell you everything you need to know.
>>76605890
I guess I should claim for getting the doc to inspect my asshole because I was getting haemorrhoids. I feel violated and embarrassed.
>>76605398
I dated a girl for a while who had been raped at a party. She was drunk, but it was still forcible - the guy dragged her into a bathroom by her hair and fucked her even though she said no.
Sick bitch used to like to rape roleplay with me, and came harder than anything when I was telling her "it was your fault, you were asking for it, you liked it, you're easy, you're a whore."
Good girl, real sweet otherwise, you'd never know.
>>76606080
>Inviting girls back to your dorm
Wouldn't do it even sober in this climate, unless with other people present.
>>76606080
>And who do you invite back to your house?
anyone that seems interesting and im having a good time with?
> Grills you would like to fuck?
nope, im married.
>>76606095
>government
What are you talking about you retard?
Lay down those drugs.
>>76605890
I've had my junk fondled by General practitioners every time I get a basic check up. But apparently them photographing it destroys their life? None of this shit was traumatic for her, she just wants attention and sympathy.
>>76605885
Are you stupid? Use your brain.
The consequences of sex to a man are meaningless, to a woman it is critical not to be saddled with a baby from an absent or useless father.
Basic evolution, not the mass media or Marx or w/e pol is blaming this week.
>>76605037
This.
I have had hourlong discussions with friends while both of us are heavily drunk and they had no problem talking with me, arguing, walking around, pouring themselves new drinks etc.
Then the next day they couldn't remember anything because apparently they were blackout drunk.
Being blackout drunk doesn't mean you are lying around in some corner, maybe occasionally puking on yourself.
Most of the time it still means you can hold a conversation and act completely normal albeit very drunk. It also means you can still make decisions on your own and give consent to something even if you don't remember afterwards.
>tell the cops you can't remember anything
>they charge you with rape because you were out of control drunk
>tell the cops what you remember
>they say you were concious enough to stop
Can't win.
>>76606122
>tfw went to local GP because of haemorrhoids
>tfw had to get in the fetal position and female doc lubed up and stuck her fingers up my ass
I felt worse for her tbqh.
>>76606141
If you don't film every minute of your interactions with a woman, you're a fool. If you do you're a creep. Humanity will soon die off because there won't be anymore babies.
>>76606141
turns out its not much of a problem when you dont intend to rape them.
>>76605004
In California fingering without consent is rape. While I usually agree that if it's a he said she said we can't make a judgement it seems pretty clear that this dude fucked up. The two cyclist found him on top of her passed out and he tried to run so they had to restrain him. Dude was pretty much caught red handed and knew what he was doing was wrong. Even though he was rightfully convicted though kinda I think 6 years (which was what the DA suggested) is too much.
>>76606165
Dude, your cocaine empire is sure to flourish.
>>76606122
You should if he did to your ass hole what happened to this girls vagina.
>Jesus christ, modern society is turning into a cry baby puddle.
Please don't breed. You sound like a pretty horrible person.
In Franco's Spain, the relationships were slow as fuck. People used to last months to give the first kiss, the girl was always accompanied by a friend or family, the boy had to ask permission to her father, and that kind of stuff.
Everyone make fun of these things nowadays, but I am jelly as fuck. It really makes sense.
>>76606167
You realize in modern western civilization the government undertakes the prosecution? This wasn't a civil case. She's not paying for anything. The government is the one charging and prosecuting him. It's their money.
>>76606265
any now you're just repeating yourself as you're out of what little wit you had. thank you for admitting defeat.
She gave consent.
Her statement was crafted to sound sarcastic but still tell the truth so if this college rape hoax gets debunked like all the ones before it, she can't be charged with perjury.
Libtards who have no understanding of the bureaucratic nature of the US judicial system will legitimately think this is sarcasm, when in fact, it is not.
>>76606226
Well, that's not actually true.
Hence the frequent false rape accusations thrown around.
>>76606180
>every time I get a basic check up
Is this actually true?
Also - like - I never said the photographs were traumatic. I'm implying the messed up vag is traumatic.
>>76599999
excellent digits my friend.
Yes means yes you goddamn cunt. Remember that in your fucking women's studies class?
>black/muslim suspect
>/pol/: SEND HIM TO JAIL I HOPE HE FUCKING ROTS 100 YEARS IN PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING SHIT SKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>white suspect
>/pol/: whoa hey that wasn't rape, it was [insert bullshit here], let's not jump to conclusions okay
>>76606273
>What happened to this girls vagina
Nothing?
>Please don't breed. You sound like a pretty horrible person.
Please don't breed, you sound like you're too fragile to handle the responsibility of raising children.
>>76606392
what does passed out mean?
>>76606337
Wait, I'm confused. I thought he was already convicted? Or is it some preliminary shit?
Because that statement is a dead give-away for consent. Shit, it's what woman wanted! They wanted step-by-step consent and she fucking got it, and that's not enough?
FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK HIT ME NOW THOR I WANT OFF THIS PLANE AND FIGHT IN VALHALLA
>>76606337
There's no debunking. The dude was found guilty by a jury of his peers. This is one of the first cases the media had in all this hoopla that turns out to be legit. They're just mad that the judge handed out a light sentence cause they wanted half a decade or more of this kids life for some dry humping and finger banging.
>>76606337
Site references?
>>76606331
Hardly. Keep taking up for drunken whoring accompanied by post action revocation of clearly granted consent. Can't wait until one of your snow bunnies gets a bump smaller than the last and decides your so-called consensual blowjob from 3 months ago was FORCIBLE SHITLORD RAPE!
>>76599999
>that explaining himself like he did something so wrong
Good God thank You I that I live in country where people understand how interactions and flirting works and don't yell RAPE! at fingering some slut that wanted to have with him anyway.
But to be honest I don't blame the girl because I lived in the UK and I know how fucked up the younger ones are. From one side they are attacked by sexualization of everything resultng in 13 year old slags looking like hookers. From other side they're attacked by cultural marxism that tells the womans that men are they enemy and rape is everywhere. This creates this ludacris situations where a boy get's 6 months in fucking jail for fingering a girl that wanted to have sex with him and he's stigmatized for life as rapist, while the shitskin rapist are left to do their thing because it's their """"""""culture""""""""
>>76606455
>Passed out.
>Said yes.
>Admitting to saying yes.
>People TESTIFIED she gave consent.
k
>>76606419
It wasn't rape.
Also;
>Muslim suspect
Feminists would be lined up around the block protesting his arrest.
"I was not ready to tell my boyfriend or parents that actually, I may have been raped"
That does make for a much better story then getting drunk, grinding on some dude, then letting him fingerbang you outdoors like a total sloot, before he runs off to throw up and gets tackled by Swedes.
How would you ever explain that to your boyfriend? Must have been rape.
>>76606521
>clearly granted consent.
there were multiple witnesses to her being unconscious.
>>76603917
>I never slept on my dorm room
Wat
>>76606491
The quote he used is out of context.
What's she is saying is that these are HIS claims of the event, while she has no recollection of the night.
Im all confused m8s need solid facts of case can we establish certain things like:
•Where did this "rape" happen? I hear outside near a dumpster, a bathroom, and a dorm
•What was the prior relationship between these two?
•Did he have consent at all before the chick was inebriated?
•Did the guy penetrate any part of her with his dick or a foriegn object?
•At which point in their hanging out and getting drunk did she "blackout" and end up begind a dumpster or wherever
Normally I would shitpost and go be a good goy elsewhere but I can't necessarily support rapisists due to me hating mudslimes adamantly and their getting away with it but I cannot fully be sympathetic towards lying and irresponsible cunts
>>76606419
might be because whites are magnitudes less likely to rape somebody and magnitudes more likely to talk actually be able and willing to talk her into consensual sexual conduct.
>>76606508
They're calling it rape.
They're mad that a "rapist" isn't getting a lengthy sentence because he's white.
They're ignoring the fact there was no rape, because it fucks with the narrative.
>>76606544
>found guilty of sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object
you were saying?
>>76606629
jewish disinformation campaign strikes again
>>76606419
Came here to post this. All of you losers defending this dumbass would be calling for his head if he was black/muslim/hispanic/anything but white.
White privilege.
White privilege.
White privilege.
>>76606552
The two Swedes would have gladly taken his dick to defend the lady, as well.
>>76606611
Gee, if only she was a reliable witness not trying to sway opinion with pure sarcasm and emotional appeals, huh?
This isn't a case of rape. At best it's a case for public indecency.
>>76606677
>found guilty
So what? How often do these kinds of cases get overturned again?
>>76599999
This rape case is being heavily promoted because 'muh vagina' first presidential contender.
The way to win is to not even argue.
sage.
>>76606669
Because in California it fits the legal definition of rape. Yes rape is a charged term and the media could be seen as being irresponsible for it's use but it isn't inaccurate.
>>76606663
No, it's because whites more likely to be caught in flagrante delicto and then not charged with rape.
>>76606702
>implying we didn't defend Cosby
>implying we didn't defend Dorner, who ACTUALLY did it
>implying we didn't defend Zimmerman
Strawman harder.
>>76606291
It's not about if victim pays, it's about extracting money from rapist family to satisfy everybody in court. The loser pays at end. The court isn't so much interested in justice than they are in making the case big. Who knows, maybe a famous lawyer will be born, so he can get promoted in his career.
woman are not responsible for their actions when drunk
men are responsible for their actions when drunk
women are victims
men are violators.
women are equal to men except when they are better.
>>76606591
>multiple witnesses
Did they witness them dancing together earlier in the evening? NOPE.
Were they a party to the conversation these two had that evening? NOPE.
They walk in on the final scene of the play and assume to know its beginning. They do not. You do not. Two people do. And only one of them claims any memory of the events.
>>76605488
>guys who have "female friends"
top kek
>>76599999
Literally this entire situation has Americas alcohol age limit to blame.
Did this guy rape her?
Probably, but I don't know that.
If we lowered the drinking age for beer to 14 we would not have these problems.
These kids go off away from any adult super vision and have 0 idea how to handle themselves, that's both sexes.
People have to get used to alcohol and its effects much earlier in life to be able to deal with other things later.
If both of these people had been drinking for years I highly doubt either of them would have been in this situation.
>>76599999
I think this was sexual assault desu.
But it's so clear the msm have been waiting for something like this for so long. To justify their rape culture, white male privelidge agenda.
The worst is people might looking at the fucking mattress whore story and think it was legit.
The quints and the story telling almost make me believe he's innocent.
>>76599999
the boy should be set free. he barely did anything at all more than poor judgment to recognize a girl that would cry victim afterwards. Oh excuse me, that's 90% of females now - and we're supposed to know that over the biological sex drive that's chemically driven otherwise we wouldn't be here in the first place. I think the girl should be slut shamed. The judge is a victim of the same limited cultural thinking about it that infects the population at large. MGOW gets a boost.
>>76604328
Not sure if I should even laugh anymore
>>76606804
you dont need to see them dancing to figure out what he was trying to do to her unconscious body.
>>76606629
So, from what can be loosely pieced together.
>They meet at a party
>Both intoxicated
>They are flirty and touching each other
>He asks her back to his dorm
>She leaves with him
>They make out behind a dumpster and he fingers her
>She passes out at some point
>He proceeds to dry hump her
>Two cyclists see what's going on and run over and grab him
>He claims she gave consent up until the dry humping (and that he didn't realize she was unconscious)
>She claims she has no recollection of the events
>The two cyclists say she was clearly unconscious and he was (clothed) on top of her thrusting his hips aggressively
Now, if you go by the definition that an intoxicated woman cannot give consent, then basically going all the way back to the make out, he was sexually assaulting her.
If you go by any definition, when he was dry humping her as she was unconscious, he was sexually assaulting her.
>fingered
>left in an alley
confirmed for bowling ball
>>76606337
She is just trying to save face because this 23 year old adult was paroozing college parties for freshman cock behind her mans back.
Now he did take it too far when she passed out and he kept going.
That's why he got 6 months.
Rookie mistake.
>>76605084
I don't understand this talk of rape prevention when discussing the sentencing of a convicted rapist. The girl was raped, there were eye witnesses, he confessed, and yet there are still some bitter /r9k/ fags that keep repeating how she shouldn't have been that drunk anyway. Of course in hindsight neither person should've drunk anything but that's not helping anything since the reality is they both did and this creep decided to get his rocks off with an unconscious person behind a dumpster. Saying that it could've been avoided doesn't make his actions any less heinous.
>>76606884
Keked
>>76606202
Maybe don't try to have sex with unconscious people
>>76606663
It doesn't matter how likely it is based on the population, in this case he did it and we have eye witnesses. The probability of occurrence based on race has nothing to do with an assault we know occurred.
>>76607125
She didn't get raped though.
>>76599999
Impressive. Very nice.
>>76601101
I've literally never had memory loss from drinking. I've thrown up twice from drinking but I've never had memory loss
>>76607482
Sexually assaulted then, the point still stands.
>>76606780
>Defending Cosby was a good thing
>Dorner and Zim Zam raped people
Nice try m80 but your token heroes don't apply here
>>76606803
If the woman was assaulting an unconscious guy you bet your ass she'd be responsible for her actions
>>76608228
She didn't get sexually assaulted.
>>76608363
Stop conflating blackout with unconsciousness please.
He did something stupid, but she was there every step of the way. This should have never gone to court. They both should have just moved on.
>>76608396
>>76608432
She wasn't moving or conscious, that would make her unconscious. He tried to have sex/do shit with her while she was in that state, that's assault. Fuck off if you're going to deny basic facts of the case, Pajeet.
>he LOOKS like a rapist
>he LOOKS guilty
modern society, everyone
>>76608911
>She wasn't moving or conscious
I do not buy it.
>He tried to have sex/do shit with her while she was in that state, that's assault.
More like -- if true -- she fell into that state while he fingered her.
Don't care; not rape.
whatta fucking surprise
>>76608017
>im a pussy
Should have joined a fraternity. You drinking a 6er while playing halo 4 with your friends on a friday night isnt drinking
Go to college and become a rapist.
All im getting from this and other stories is that women have are not responsible when intoxicated but we should know better..did he do it ? maybe I dont know but its sad when this thing can happen and all it takes to convict you is her saying you did it
>>76606884
Not bad
>>76606884
underrated
>>76609052
You not believing something because it violates your worldview doesn't make it less true. If someone passes out in the middle of a sex act you have to stop.
The UK needs to send back your kind before designated raping streets crop up along the shitting streets.
>>76599999
Does anyone know what the 'foreign object' was?
>>76609761
>you have to stop
BS if you get consent and start fucking and she passes out you are free to go until you blast
>>76609783
Some dirt and pine needles that got on his hand ..but they way they word it readers think he was shoving bottles in her snatch or something
>>76609761
I dunno mate, falling asleep while fapping is pretty nice so I imagine falling asleep in the sensual embrace of a lover is nice too.
However, I don't believe that this hambeast was ever unconscious in the act. It sounds like she was drunk but conscious, and after being reported by some faggots as having been raped, felt in too deep to say "no actually I'm a slag, sorry for wasting your time judge and sorry to my family for being a useless whore". So the kid is thrown under the bus.
>>76605248
>man is drunk
>woman is drunk
>they have sex
>man is now a rapist
Explain
>>76610020
That's not what the law says, m8. But hey, maybe those extra pumps are worth going to jail over.
>>76610140
Falling asleep while masturbating isn't even close to someone aggressively trying to fuck you as you sleep. I know you have only experienced the former but let me tell you the latter is a fucking hassle and a half.
There's a lot of disinformation on whether or not she's conscious but the official court ruling states that she was unconscious whether you believe it or not.
>>76610138
I kind of imagine getting dirt and pine needles up your cunt wouldn't be very comfortable
>>76610388
>aggressively trying to fuck you
>>76607125
She wasn't raped.
He was sentenced more than appropriately for what he did.
He will do six months as a lily white sex offender in jail and then spend the rest of his life as a listed sex offender, essentially a life sentence. This was for rubbing his clothed crotch on a drunk woman.
I honestly don't know what the controversy is here.
>One more time, in public news, I learned that my ass and vagina were completely exposed outside, my breasts had been groped, fingers had been jabbed inside me along with pine needles and debris, my bare skin and head had been rubbing against the ground behind a dumpster, while an erect freshman was humping my half naked, unconscious body. But I don't remember, so how do I prove I didn't like it.
Anyone else feel their python stirring while reading this
She should write fanfic
>>76610388
law says you need consent..if you get it you can have sex ..her passing out during means shit
>>76608911
They were kissing, he asked if he could finger her, she said yes and started moaning while he did it - How the fuck is that rape?
>>76610426
It's alright when you're a drunk, sloppy slag.
>>76610603
Pretty sure it's against the law if they pass out.
Also she says she does not remember any of the events, which would indicate a level of intoxication that means she couldn't grant informed consent.
>>76599999
Witnessed
>>76610649
She became unconscious and he continued. Or perhaps he just continued with the dry humping.
Either way, when they were interrupted she was unconscious and he was still humping away.
It's not rape - and he wasn't convicted of rape. It's sexual assault. And I'm pretty sure that fits the definition.
>>76610705
>the "I'm not a slut I just don't remember"
Retrograde amnesia from alcohol is a meme.
>>76610525
Fine, don't believe the eye witnesses. You know your opinion is solid when it's based on the removal of evidence.
>>76610603
Aight m9, you consent to a bj and then pass out, then she decides to peg you while you're passed out. Totally fine with you, yeah?
>>76610649
According to him, and even if she was okay with it before passing out, after she's unconscious he has to stop.
>>76610705
Law says you cant fuck a woman who is passed out..because she cant consent ..if you get consent and have sex and she passes out during its not the same ..and if im held responsible for my actions while drunk so should a woman...regret is not rape
>>76610810
>he has to stop
if she gives a go ahead its not rape
>>76610810
There's quite a continuum between being awake and slipping out of consciousness.
>he has to stop.
If he thinks she's falling asleep then why not just wake her up and ask if anything is the matter while continuing to put his fingers in her tuna canoe as has been consented to?
>then she decides to peg you while you're passed out
Not comparable.
>>76605733
>>76608017
So really all you're telling us is that you're just an autistic pussy who never goes out
>>76610810
I was 17 when I lost my virginity to a 21 yearold. I was so drunk I passed out in the middle of it. She never told me what happened after and I never asked.
I feel so violated.
I am a survivor.
>>76610798
Either way, in this day and age if a woman is even slightly intoxicated it's not worth the risk. Basically if they're drunk, they can't consent.
>>76610951
Law says you have to stop if she passes out or says no.
The law being totally unbalanced in terms of intoxication rules towards females is unfair, but that's the way it is.
>>76604019
>Permission is permission and he says she gave it. She says she was in the middle of a blackout and "doesn't remember".
Legally you can't give consent while intoxicated so this argument is DOA
>>76608017
>>76605733
You pussies barely touched alcohol then. Blacking out on alcohol is very real. On more than one occasion I've had friends inform me - the morning after - that I'd start crushing sugar cubes and snorting them after drinking half a fifth of bourbon.
You know, it's remarkable that western civilization has survived so long without all this legal minutiae of what you can and can't do with a consenting partner. It's almost as if this is really a non-issue used by SJWs and a sympathetic media to witch-hunt white males out of further education.
>>76611140
Not an argument. I can remember everything even after taking benzos and drinking like a fish, which is a sure recipe for amnesia. Recollection is hazy but it's all there.
>>76610951
She can't give the go ahead to continued sex acts if she's unconscious. I know this may be hard for you to understand if you've never had sex or touched a girl, but both participants have the right to stop everything at anytime, no matter how butthurt/blue-balled the other person is. If you are passed out you can't invoke this right so you can't be sure the consent is continued.
>>76610987
If he could've woken her up we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
>>76611223
>I'm not bothered by being raped so it shouldn't be illegal
k
>>76610138
>>76610426
I don't think there were any pine needles in her vag. There was a bunch of dirt and stuff on her back because she's been lying down in an alley, but the penetration with a foreign object refers solely to the fingering.
Which, incidentally, the cops only knew about because the guy opened his stupid mouth and told them. If he had just shut up and waited for a lawyer then they couldn't have charged him with rape, only with sexual assault.
You know what really grates on my nerves about this case? All the established facts agree that the 'victim', despite the fact that she had a boyfriend, decided to go to a frat party at a university she didn't even attend, and spent the evening getting completely wasted while grinding up against other men. Since it's highly unlikely that the 'attacker' dragged her outside then she almost certainly did go out there willingly to have some sort of sexual encounter (despite the fact that she had a boyfriend).
And for all this, she gets sympathy.
>>76606825
This. I was afraid to point it out because huurrr muh alcohol degeneracy, but the problem is American teens, especially girls, aren't taught responsibility.
>>76611322
I can't imagine much joy in fingering a sleeping slag anyway.
>>76610180
>White man is drunk
>Woman is drunk
>Woman consents
>They didn't even have sex
>HE'S RAPIST, ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS
>REFUGEES mass assault white women without their consent
>It's censored to avoid "islamophobia"
>G-guys, not all of the muslims are rapists
Fuck this world
>>76611322
might as well make it law you deed to stop ever 5 mins to make sure its ok to keep going
>>76611392
Right? What a stupid reason to fuck up your life
>>76599999
Goddamn we need to start placing more importance on writing for children.
>>76611392
...it's pretty fun. A lot of it is trying not to w
ake them up while you're doing it
>>76611351
Firs ttime I've heard that she had a boyfriend. Hope he took the red pill
>>76611481
Nah it just makes me think even more that she was never asleep.
>>76611291
The point I was trying to illustrate is that the argument:
>"I've never blacked out so it must be all a lie that's never happened to anyone"
is completely retarded
>>76611457
If the person is conscious then you don't need to keep asking because they can communicate their thoughts/desires. An unconscious person cannot.
>>76611537
Believe what you want, you're heavily in the wrong.
>>76611512
>Firs ttime I've heard that she had a boyfriend.
it's actually in her victim statement
>>76611546
His post reeks of denial. The whole deal with blacking out is that you don't remember blacking out. The little Cuckistanian was probably on-and-off all night and was too fucked to realise it.
>>76611351
They didn't charge him with rape. They charged him with sexual assault.
>>76603558
STOP THE HATE SPEECH LAWS!
>>76611266
That's funny, I seem to remember the laws saying men can consent very well when intoxicated. I also remember being intoxicated is not an excuse for crashing a vehicle so why is it an excuse only for sexual activity AND ONLY for women?
Are women inferior animals that cannot control theyr sexual behaviour when drunk while men can? Or are women just overgrown children and a protected class because...reasons.
>>76605733
I believe this also. I've gotten drunk to the point of passing out plenty of times and alcohol poisoning twice and I remember every bit of it.
Unless some people just have poor memories when they drink, but in my experience that is not the case.
>>76611663
I've never blacked out, and I've been drunk to the point of paralytic and unable to move or make sense of my surroundings.
Some people react differently.
I've got a few female friends who claim to have no recollection of previous events or chunk of the night, and they were heavily drunk, but not at the point of collapse like I've been many times. Not that they don't remember the whole night, like amnesia, but basically large chunks of it.
And I doubt it's "regret" because they weren't doing anything to be embarrassed about.
They're just like;
>What do you mean we went to such and such bar? We went straight from A to B? I don't remember that at all
>>76611908
You seem to remember incorrectly. Men and women are treated equally under the law in this regard. You cannot legally give consent while intoxicated.
>>76610649
Problem is that she passed out during. People can moan and react while unconcious, so he may not have even realized she was out.
The guy's statement makes him sound like an absolute virgin that had no idea what he was doing.
>>76611859
he was convicted of attempted rape and rape by penetration with a foreign object
>>76612117
And yet in this scenario, he completely consented somehow while being drunk himself.
>>76612117
Reaaaaaly? So why then have there been numerous cases of young men punished legally or extralegally for "rape" when both partners were intoxicated but the woman of them regretted the act afterwards?
>>76611908
All the little rich pussy had to do was pretend he blacked out as well, because remembering the details is a pretty clear indication that he was conscious of what he was doing, and thus sober enough to consent.
Meanwhile, there's absolutely every indication that the girl indeed was blacked out and passed out mid-molestation.
> I also remember being intoxicated is not an excuse for crashing a vehicle
False equivalence, you're reaching pretty hard, Gypsy.
>>76612418
This. Any smart man should be responding with counter charges and claim that they were the one that was raped because they were drunk.
>>76612082
>I've never blacked out, and I've been drunk to the point of paralytic and unable to move or make sense of my surroundings.
Then you don't remember blacking out, like how everyone blacks out, you shitposting kangaroo.
>>76612324
I'm having a hard time reconciling myself with the concept of a person "consenting" to penetrate an unconscious person.
>>76612336
Because once an accusation is made, a perpetrator and a victim must be identified.
>>76599999
quints apparently says it's not
>both parties agree that she gave consent
>somehow still rape
i really love this any drunk sex is rape meme
>>76612281
Nope. Three counts of sexual assault.
>>76612117
Actually men can give consent while intoxicated and are the party responsible if both parties are intoxicated.
>>76612555
checked
>>76612755
That's some sexist shit.
>>76612663
A man can literally be unconscious and a woman can use him for sex, and he can have no recollection of the event, and he will still be culpable.
All of which is irrelevant to this case of course.
>>76612755
>Actually men can give consent while intoxicated and are the party responsible if both parties are intoxicated.
Then you deny having sex, and if evidence show you did, you claim you blacked out and didn't remember, then the case is fucking dropped because you did not consent either. When you go around yelling "Yeah man, I fucked that bitch last night", you throw your claims of over-intoxication out the fucking window, dolt.
This is not hard, you fucking imbeciles.
>>76612789
>>76612863
>>76612755
It would be sexist if true. I don't know what the laws are in Australia but in the US that is not how it works at all.
>>76611272
You're so hardcore
>>76604824
>purposefully inebriate yourself yo increase chances of sex
What are you talking about retard? Women can have sex at any time using tinder or something. Some women drink to have fun, I drink to have fun because I have a gf and sober sex is better anyway.
>>76605625
>cucked by a skinnyfat who looks less manly
What?
>>76607233
So say I am given consent, does them losing consciousness revoke their consent?
Why am I the one who must prove my innocence, rather than they prove I'm guilty?
>girl gets groped by an Arab
DEPORT ALL MUDSLIMES, FUCK THESE DISGUSTING SAND NIGGER PIGS
>white chad penetrates an unconscious girl in a dirty alley behind a frat house dumpster
S-she was asking for it
>>76613120
I'm not hardcore, you're just a cunt.
>>76613323
Okay sure whatever I'm a cunt, enjoy your sugar scarface.
>>76604750
I guarantee you wouldn't be saying that if the accused was a black guy.
You'd be crying about how we should lynch dirty nigs who rape our white woman. It's funny different the average /pol/tard's oppinion would be if the skin color was the hue of poo
>>76613541
>implying I can enjoy what I can't remember
No wonder the Irish are the niggers of europe. Dumb cunts, the lot of you.
>>76613316
Consensually.
>>76613574
I would.
I can also guarantee we wouldn't be having this conversation because if this was a black guy no one would give a shit and it wouldn't be getting 24/7 front page coverage.
I've a made a new rule for interacting with women.
1: Never pick up girls in a bar. That's begging for a rape accusation.
2: If a woman is even slightly intoxicated I will never, EVER be in a room alone with them. You can play fucking jenga together and she can cry rape and your life is ruined.
3: If partying with people, hang out with the sober chicks. Drunk chicks are 100% off limits. In fact, any drunk woman at a party should be shunned, a cab called, and her sent home. If she is too drunk to consent to sex, she can't consent to partying with responsible adults.
>>76613302
>Why am I the one who must prove my innocence, rather than they prove I'm guilty?
Seriously? This should not be difficult.
Realistically if you are having sex with someone and they become unconscious for any reason, you should stop having sex with because:
1) They might be having a medical emergency
2) You are no longer having sex with them in a mutually agreed upon fashion.
Imagine you are gay and some dude is fucking you in the ass and then you pass out for some reason. Would you want him to continue fucking you in the ass?
>>76613316
>Arabs forcibly finger bang and grope innocent girls minding their own business
Deport them!
>Girls gets drunk and parties with Chad. Chad rubs his crotch on her after she passes out in the middle of a hook up session
I think 6 months in jail and a lifetime on the Pedo Register sounds fine.
I'm really not sure what the problem is here?
>>76613912
Basically the best and safest option is;
If you're out partying and you're getting a long with a girl, get her facebook or number. Contact her when you're sober. If you meet up or hook up, also do it while she's sober.
If it's a college girl - Make sure you save all text/communications.
>>76613043
Huh? Did you miss the whole mattress girl incident? A woman can consent, even while conscious, and still claim rape. The court only threw it out when there was hard evidence (a recording).
Europe and Commonwealth countries aren't as bad as in the US. In the US, a woman can claim rape, her word against the man's, and still win the case.
How can you not be aware of this? The entire US justice system is skewered in favour of females. If a female calls you out, you better have a ROCK solid alibi, multiple witness or video evidence to back your shit up.
why would he run away if he wasnt guilty?
>>76614212
The whole mattress girl incident in which the alleged rapist was never brought to court or convicted of anything despite thousands of people playing the peanut gallery and trying to get him to face retribution?
I'm not sure what I'm missing here.
>>76614040
>Girls gets drunk and parties with Chad. Chad rubs his crotch on her after she passes out in the middle of a hook up session
>I think 6 months in jail and a lifetime on the Pedo Register sounds fine.
>>76613925
>If some girl is riding me and I fall asleep, and she continues while I'm flat out nappin' on the job.
Yes I gave consent. I do not, can not, should not, be able to claim she raped me.
When my only proof is the fact I was unconscious, and people seen her riding my dick.
>>76613302
Are you that desperate for pussy that you're trying to excuse fucking a chick who's passed out?
Dude. Get a fucking grip.
>>76606508
The jail time isn't the issue. He could have gotten off with no jail time, or five years, and shrugged it off with a bit of difficulty afterwards.
The real problem is that he has to be on the sex offenders registry for the rest of his life.
>>76614884
I'm not desperate for pussy, I have a girlfriend, I have sex when ever I want.
Although, I will state, even though I would have confronted the dude in the manor those two did, I do not understand how there was enough evidence to convict him of rape in court.
>>76614676
If you are unconscious then you are physically unable to partake in whatever sexual activity you're involved in, hence you are unable to consent to anything that is done to you. That's all there is to it. You shouldn't fuck an unconscious person unless they specifically ask you to. Please come back to reality.
>>76614884
Thank you.
>>76615157
you're ridiculous. By your logic, I should not be arrested for a D.U.I when I crash my car because I passed out at the wheel and couldn't possibly consent to driving since I was unconscious when I crashed.
Literally retarded.
>>76604777
The lawd is with this board.
>>76599999
that did not just happen
>hundreds of Muslims sexually assault women in Cologne on NYE
>"MORE MUSLIMS!!!!"
>one white kid clumsily has one of his first drunken sexual experiences
>"CRUCIFY THE SCUM!!!!"
Brown privilege.
>>76599999
So in the end, he was convicted because he was so bad at fingering a girl that she fell asleep midway?
Wew, gotta get a PhD in sexual activity nowadays.
>>76604328
tfw, 2swedes
he was probably running because he hates swedes.
>>76615277
checked
>>76604328
I am proud of them. And would do the same thing. The woman was passed out behind a dumpster, her vagina was full of debris because of his gentle fingering to which she "consented".
SWEDEN FUCKING YES.
>>76615452
>By your logic, I should not be arrested for a D.U.I when I crash my car because I passed out at the wheel and couldn't possibly consent to driving since I was unconscious when I crashed.
I cannot possibly comprehend what mental hurdles you had to jump over to arrive at that conclusion.
Driving is a matter of choice not consent. Seriously it does not take a genius to distinguish between the two.
>>76614659
So if some cunt says you raped her and makes your name and face forever associated with rape, ensures you're fired and unlikely to ever work a high-paying job again that's ok?
I'm not saying you'll get jail, oh no, only the above.
>>76611272
Not everyone blacks out from drinking alcohol like a woman m8
>>76606236
His story says he got up to go puke, and that she was communicative and responsive the whole time.
It's very possible she pretended like she was out of it when the two Swedes turned up.
>>76615954
I choose to drive and I choose to have sex alcohol doesn't change that.
>>76614672
What's the b8 here?
You honestly think he should have gotten a more severe punishment? I'd say his life is pretty much fucked from this point on.
>>76599999
Thread ruined by quints.
Nice OP
>>76605890
I know this is a troll post but you're right. A rape kit isn't taking a picture
>>76608017
You havent drank enough
Usually i puke and pass out and don't remember a couple of things from the night before
Usually dont remember when and how i got to bed lmao
>>76606337
Holy fuck, this is actually in her statement.
So his story checks out 100%.
Case fucking closed.
>>76615954
If you're asking for explicit permission to sex somebody up, you're doing it fucking wrong. What we have here is 2 swedes and a woman who can't remember shit.
>>76615954
Actually, I've never quite gotten this.
>Drunk
>You CHOSE to get in a car and drive it
>Drunk
>You CHOSE to go home and have sex with that man
I'm really not sure what's what here. Sort of like I don't get how we can have adverts that say;
>If you're planning to drink, don't take your car out
But we can't have ads saying;
>If you're planning to drink, use the buddy system and don't go home with guys
>>76606508
>he asks to finger her
>she says yes
>that means it's rape
Idiot.
>>76600322
>>76605733
>>76612013
Not true. I've been blackout drunk - I remember discussing how one of our classmates became a porn star, and then I remember vomiting some 3 hours later and going to bed.
>>76615967
I'm confused. I was attempting to dispel the notion that men and women are treated unequally under the law in the case of giving consent while intoxicated. Making public accusations and slandering a person is a different matter entirely on which I have not stated an opinion.
To your point, I agree that the alleged rapist in the mattress girl incident was treated unfairly by the public and he should press charges for slander against her in light of the fact that there is literally not a single bit of evidence to corroborate her accusations.
>>76606337
Wow, nice out of context screenshot. Here's the preceding paragraph.
>So one year later, as predicted, a new dialogue emerged. Brock had a strange new story, almost sounded like a poorly written young adult novel with kissing and dancing and hand holding and lovingly tumbling onto the ground, and most importantly in this new story, there was suddenly consent. One year after the incident, he remembered, oh yeah, by the way she actually said yes, to everything, so.
>stanford university
>should of
>>76599999
yeah no, this ain't some "oh i consented to sex at the time but i had a pint so now it's rape" he was sticking shit into her unconscious body behind a bin, just because i consent to sex does not mean i want a women to start shoving shit up my arse in public whilst i'm passed out
>>76616001
That's bullshit and you know it
>>76616486
Lol. She confirmed it you tard.
>>76616106
A car doesn't ] choose to let you drive it.
>>76615954
but it does apparently because you can't, you haven't, and you won't.
So either argue your point or accept you're literally retarded like I said and concede to my point.
>>76613302
He said that if he had noticed she was unconcsious he would have stoped. Apperantley two guys in the dark bikinig noticed that she was from several meters but he didn't when he was on her. The police, the guys and the hospital confirmend that she was unconscious and only woke up at 4, thrre hours after the arrest.
Now the guy was probably drunk out of his mind walking with the chick, maybe even touching her. Somwhere along the line she lost concsioussnes and he just continuend. Seeing as there was numerous lacerations and punctuations on her arms and legs where the asphalt dug into her skin I doubt that she was awake when it all started.
Apperantly that and more evidence was enough to convince the jury that he was guilty. The thing isen't so much that he is guilty but the weakass sentance that he was given for shit reasons.
>>76599999
>caught humping an unconscious person behind a dumpster
So if you were getting assfucked unconscious you wouldn't consider it rape? I mean you were going to his dorm, what did you think was going to happen right?
>>76616530
See
>>76616528
If you actually need it to be spelled out for you that badly.
>>76616528
Both the girl and the guy are the drivers in this case.
They both CHOOSE to their have drunken sex or not.
Just like a driver CHOOSES to drunkenly get behind the wheel or not.
>>76600322
> 660022
>>76616613
She admits she gave consent to the fingering. She was obviously awake.
>>76599999
Checked and kekd'
>>76616551
>Given a life sentence for dry humping a passed out girl
I don't think it's weak.
(I'm assuming he's on the sex offenders registry though - I may be wrong)
>>76599999
>During this time, we walk down a slope in the direction toward the path we were heading. The next thing I realise is that we were both on the ground laying next to each other because it seemed as though she lost her footing heading down the slope and I went down with her.
Is this supposed to be believable?
I hope you people realize that Ted Bundy had an even grander essay of how he was an innocent human being. Doesn't lessen the crime in any way.
>>76616613
If I got drunk and decided to go home with a fag for sexy times, but woke up next to a dumpster with him dry humping on my ass, I'd probably just be embarrassed and annoyed. Not traumatized for life.
I've had fags come up and grab my (clothed) junk in toilets, and drunk chicks. I didn't really give a shit.
But I'm Australian and we're all convict pigs here, so maybe it's different.
>>76616885
>Is this supposed to be believable?
Why not?
>>76616652
Okay now what happens when we try to extend this analogy to it's originally intended purpose?
When the driver falls asleep, the car doesn't make him/her continue driving it.
This example is literally so stupid it hurts.
>>76616762
>She admits she gave consent to the fingering
no she doesn't.
she can't remember anything, she was so drunk she couldn't speak or stand upright. she even fell asleep
you're a moron
>>76616885
I'm not saying he ISN'T lying...but what's remotely unbelievable about that?
I've come to at the bottom of stairs I'd obviously just drunkenly fallen down.
>>76616918
because it's bullshit and criminals make such pleas of innocence all the time
>>76599999
You idiots,
this wasn't a classic case of "girl gets drunk and has sex she regrets, then cries rape"
She was literally unconscious behind a dumpster getting plowed by Brock "Big Cock" Turner.
Then two guys came up and saw what was happening and called Brock out.
Brock got up and started running away, knowing what he was doing was wrong.
The guy was a scum bag.
>>76616946
When the driver falls asleep and crashes into someone, he's still liable.
So the analogy I guess would be if she falls asleep in the middle of a sex act, she's still liable.
>>76616314
Love that gif
>>76616946
If the driver drunkenly falls asleep at the wheel, that's because he got behind the wheel in the first place.
>>76616985
>she can't remember anything, she was so drunk she couldn't speak or stand upright. she even fell asleep
So she says.
>>76617025
Why is it bullshit?
>>76616551
Thanks swede, your input has been appreciated. Well I'm off to suck the days dick, it's been fun.
>>76612755
>Drunk men can give consent, drunk women can't and if they're both drunk, it's the man's fault.
What law have you extrapolated this from?
>>76617007
>we were just walking and talking
>suddenly we both lie next to trashbins, how did that happen lol
>must've "lost her footing" lol
>>76616918
And the he dry humped her unconcsious body whilst shoving pineneedles in her because thats the best way to help someone up.
>>76615954
spoken like a true virgin
>>76617180
>unconcsious
What makes you say she was unconscious?
>>76617097
>>she can't remember anything, she was so drunk she couldn't speak or stand upright. she even fell asleep
>So she says.
She was found passed out by the two cyclists.
You're a moron, keep at it, I don't care.
>>76617059
>Brock "Big Cock" Turner
He didn't even get his dick out.
It's Brock "Dry Humpin' On 'Er" Turner
(sorry, best I can do)
>>76617165
>drunks can't fall down
So, we've finally figured out how to teach infants to walk without them falling over left and right.
>>76617271
>She was found passed out by the two cyclists.
I can "pass out" right now you moron. All I have to do is close my eyes and not respond.
>>76617235
the cyclists who were eye witnesses you fucking retard?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stanford-rape-case-hero-swedish-students-who-stopped-brock-turners-attack-describe-what-they-saw-a7070226.html
>>76617333
see >>76617349 you imbecile
>>76617059
These dumb cunts don't even realize they give sjw scum both ammunition and legitimacy by spouting this bullshit.
>>76606828
You're right that the media has been salivating for a story of campus rape.
This wouldn't have been much of a thing if the judge didn't decide to drastically reduce the suggested sentence. Which was 6 years but went down to 6 months. I think over half a decade of prison time for some fingering and dry humping seems fucking ridiculous too and the way the media has been saying "rapists charged reduced to 6 months cause he was white" while not going into the details is flat out disgusting
>>76617349
>>76617385
>she didn't move
>that means she's unconscious.
Guess I'm unconscious right... now.
>>76616300
I think the difference is that drunk driving endangers lives and the person driving is considered dangerous to society.
Drunk sex shouldn't be rape unless one person is clearly feeding someone drinks in order to make it so they can't resist.
>>76617323
>falling down
>conveniently behind trash-bins
keep on shitposting. almost 1 million people signed to remove the judge from office
>>76617130
That's just how the law is applied (and advertised).
>>76617165
No, seriously, that doesn't sound unbelievable at all. I've had shit like that happen more times than I can remember. One minute you're pissed and stumbling down Oxford Street, next minute you're in a vomit pile in an alleyway next to a Dominoes dumpster.
>>76604328
2 swedes
one tanned blonde faggot and a sand nigger
top kek
it's 1 swede and an arab
for fuck sakess
>>76617235
She had lacerations all over her body where the asphalt dug in to her. Now even drunk I would have guessed that people move to a better location instead of just lying there with someones weight on top of them.
Plus the guys, the police on sight and the hospital all confirmend that she was unconcsious until three hours after the swedebros tackled him.
>>76617086
>>76617097
Yes, but the reason the driver is liable and the girl isn't is because the driver has potential to harm other people because of his/her actions, while the girl, whom somebody else is presumably still having sex with, is in a position of vulnerability.
>>76617474
Yeah, but they're drunk, so they can't make informed decisions. So it's not their fault they're driving.
>>76606884
Kek'd
>>76617509
Are trash bins some magical item that prevents people from falling down?
I've walked by a few trash bins in my life, and I don't recall any special properties about them other than they seem to be a magnet for condom wrappers.
>>76617509
Seriously, I've fallen down in worse places.
I don't really get this one.
>>76617385
>>76617349
Even the prosecutors say she was awake, but that she merely "could not form a sentence".
>>76617569
>She had lacerations all over her body where the asphalt dug in to her.
... because she was getting fingerbanged on the asphalt.
>>76617595
Lol, good one.
>>76614991
>the jail time isn't the issue
What? It's literally the reason why this case has gotten any media attention.
>>76617565
>Peter Jonsson
>arab
not all swedes are blond or blue eyed
>>76617531
>One minute you're pissed and stumbling down Oxford Street, next minute you're in a vomit pile in an alleyway next to a Dominoes dumpster.
>but i've never blacked out
which is it, roo-fucker?
>>76604969
>i've had girls come to my room late at night, not to fuck
Wtf is wrong with you?
>>76616314
Literally caught red handed by two witnesses in the act on top of her unconscious body and tried to run away.
Belgium you're fucking retarded
>>76617651
>Even the prosecutors say she was awake, but that she merely "could not form a sentence".
She was LITERALLY unconscious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqXmofxd80
>>76617603
The driver should have had preventative measures. They should have handed their keys off to someone else, they should have taken a taxi there and back, or they should have just not drank if it was going to become a problem. In those regards, the driver is at fault for not preventing themselves from being able to drive.
>>76617569
I take it you've never gotten rug burn from drunk sex before. I've completely blistered my wife's back from having sex on rough places even with a bed or couch nearby.
>>76617595
That doesn't really make sense.
So if you drive drunk and it's an empty road, you should get off scott free?
If you can't make an informed decision to have sex when drunk, you can't make an informed decision to drive. If alcohol removes your capability for rational thought, why are you culpable for one set of actions but not the other?
It really is a stupid double standard.
Although I'm not sure what the answer to that is. Other than prohibition or going full Durkastan and making it illegal for unwed couples to drink or exit premises together.
>>76617794
>Literally caught red handed by two witnesses
"Caught" having consensual relations?
>tried to run away
They were trying to manhandle him, how the fuck could he know what they wanted?
>>76617798
>women don't fake shit to get out of embarrassment
She got caught getting fingerbanged behind a dumpster, maybe she was engaging in damage control.
She heard two guys go "are you ok?" instead of "haha you dumb slut", and ran with it.
>>76617798
They were completely drunk at the time, she could just be moaning in her drunk state without knowing what the hell she was even doing.
>>76612253
>The guy's statement makes him sound like an absolute virgin that had no idea what he was doing.
This. I read both their statements.
>>76618018
Yea I guess you could call it consensual when you ignore the unconscious part.
Here's your (you)
>>76617798
Give me the time in that vid when he says she was unconscious.
>>76617651
>... because she was getting fingerbanged on the asphalt
No one is saying that she wasn't getting fingerbanged...
What is being said is that she was unconcsious when it happened or else she would have moved so as to not get her skin torned up by the ground.
Furthermore the guy says that he would have stoped if he had noticed that she wasnt responding. Well she wasnt as two guys in the dark from a few meter saw whils he didnt despite being on her...
>>76617719
That's not a black out
(is it?)
It's not like I didn't remember stumbling down Oxford St. and shit going sideways.
Also, the next day I can usually piece it together pretty soundly.
I've never had actual blank spots in my memory.
>>76618018
>She got caught getting fingerbanged behind a dumpster, maybe she was engaging in damage control.
She was unconscious BEFORE the Swedes approached them.
>>76618102
>>76618128
Prove she was unconscious.
Even the prosecutor said she was simply unable to produce sentences.
>>76618178
How do you know?
>>76605084
>responsible adult
>having two X chromosomes
Pick one.
It literally falls on men to prevent this sort of thing because women have no capacity for reason or accountability. You cannot convince a woman that it's dangerous to poison herself to the brink of unconsciousness in the company of strangers. They just think it's their right to do whatever they want and someone else is responsible for their safety.
>>76618060
>Dude is the idiot KING of virgins
I find this highly likely. I additionally find the "victimhood" a cover story for the fact that she was fucking around on her man.
>>76618119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqXmofxd80
2:20
>>76617427
Doesn't matter if they're drunk. Consent is consent if they got drunk on their own accord.
>>76618178
Waffle man is trolling
>>76618119
From what I've read you got two witnesses that said she was unresponsive, and the cops said she didn't respond to shaking or talking.
I've seen plenty of people get that hammered before.
>>76618240
>How do you know?
because >>76618307
>>76618323
watch >>76618307
>>76618245
It falls on us because our legal system refuses make women accountable for their choices.
>>76599999
How was the swim fag supposed to know she was drunk? Do guys need to carry around breathalyzer and clipboards?
>>76618307
All he says is "she wasn't moving".
Fucking wooptie-doo.
>>76618317
I agree.
>>76618332
>From what I've read you got two witnesses that said she was unresponsive,
All the guy said was "she wasn't moving".
>the cops said she didn't respond to shaking or talking.
Source?
>>76618359
So "not moving" = "unconscious"?
>>76618442
>So "not moving" = "unconscious"?
yes
>>76618307
Also, check
https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky
>>76618282
I love how it's completely open that she was grinding with people and kissing them well before she was blackout drunk. Yet, somehow she never came on to anyone. She even called her boyfriend multiple times that night talking about what she was doing and he kept telling her to find her sister and get the fuck home.
But no, she was innocent in everything and holds no blame.
>>76618440
Telepathy, I suppose. Yes. And cameras. And a couple of witnesses.
>>76618007
>So if you drive drunk and it's an empty road, you should get off scott free?
Not really, laws are in place to be as much deterrents as they are criteria for reasonable action. Plus you wouldn't know the road conditions prior to getting into your car so every time you drive drunk you are potentially endangering other people.
>If you can't make an informed decision to have sex when drunk, you can't make an informed decision to drive. If alcohol removes your capability for rational thought, why are you culpable for one set of actions but not the other?
I completely agree, which is why I also agree with the consent laws we have. The only reason this whole retarded car analogy came about was because this >>76615452 retard was trying to make an argument for why it's okay to fuck an unconscious person.
>>76618530
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dummkopf.
>>76618317
>Consent is consent if they got drunk on their own accord.
[citation needed]
>>76618596
If not, then why are people who drink & drive held accountable?
>>76617975
Nope. The only discomfort I have ever gotten from sex is holding someone up against the wall for the whole time(btw any tips from any helpfull anon how to best do that since I find it hot as hell but dont want to get the ache in the back again)
Now would you say that you would allow a woman to ride you on the asphalt with it digging into your back without moving over to the grass? Secondly we do have the witness and the hospital cinfirm that she was unconscious.
>>76618559
>a bunch of people that weren't there and haven't read more than a simple headline or social media photo click a link
>this clearly means that Brock is satan
Not getting the logic with you and this petition from unrelated individuals.
>>76618661
Sober? No, I would want to move.
Drunk? I'm not moving. Just ride me where we are. My back is probably half numb anyway.
>>76618563
This is exactly why the push for equality is a ruse and this case is a prime example. Women can run the world, but they can't even protect their own cunt because party and stuff. No personal agency. I hope the boyfriend drops this lush like a rock. He's a fool if he sticks around.
>>76618332
>the cops said she didn't respond to shaking or talking.
Waiting for that source bucko.
>>76618642
because having sex and driving a car are the same thing?
Fuck off with your 60-iq nigger logic.
>>76618240
>Prove she was unconscious.
The fucking witnesses and first on sight police say she was unconscious and no responsive and the hospital confirms this and says that she regaind consciousnes at 4 in the morning.
Im so glad i came on pol before i got too sexually active. This so easily could have been me at university
> drinking with new roommates at the frat house
> only place with housing since i came for spring semester
> enjoying being at a party for once in my life, confidence is growing
> see 7.5/10 qt, decide 'fuckit' and go over to talk to her
> mfw she is actually super cool, and down to earth, albeit a bit drunk
> make ballsy attempt to kiss her thanks to +5 CHA alcohol boost
> Start making out
> Remember alpha training from plebbit
> Stop kissing, break off, make up some excuse to leave and talk to someone else
> Milling around the party
> Find her later, ask her to come for a walk
> She agrees
> boner.exe
> Drunk me wants to find somewhere secluded before this girl realizes im a beta
> talking. Hold hands. Pull her closer. Slide hand under her shirt as kissing.
> Diversity training from high school kicks in, worriedly ask if she is okay.
> she happilly says yes, laughs
> touch her boob.
> Feelsgoodman.jpg
> Realize that she is drunk
> Realize she cannot give informed consent
> Panic when i realize i could get charged with sexual assault
> "What's wrong anon?"
> make up some bullshit, plaster on a smile
> Get her number, walk back to the party and return her to her friends
It ended up being fine for me, but i can eaaaaaaaaasily see how we could have progressed to finger banging in the bushes, meanwhile i am barely aware that she is not as conscious as she was before. Someone walking in on me in that situation? I dont know if i would run, but i wouldnt rule it out, panicking as you realize you inadvertently just became the boogeyman of the SJW movement.
>>76618661
>Nope. The only discomfort I have ever gotten from sex is holding someone up against the wall for the whole time(btw any tips from any helpfull anon how to best do that since I find it hot as hell but dont want to get the ache in the back again)
Either exercise or stop fucking fat chicks.
>>76605248
Yeah pretty much. Just fuck sober girls. I know, I know, getting them drunk is the only way they will fuck you cause you're an ugly loser.
Turns out women have fugured this out and they are tired of going home with ugly losers. So now, if you're an ugly loser they get to withdraw consent if they were drunk. Tough luck guys.
>>76618596
If you consent to be a drunk idiot and are responsible for all other drunk actions, why is this the only one that women rare not liable for?
>>76618878
>because having sex and driving a car are the same thing?
Not even close to an argument.
They're both decisions you make, and you're held accountable for one but not the other when drunk.
Which is obviously bunk.
>>76618896
>The fucking witnesses
Only said "she wasn't moving".
>>76618896
>police say she was unconscious and no responsive and the hospital confirms this
Please state source.
Really, I'm begging you.
