Trump on Unemployment, as high as 42%!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs
>>72185269
He always says the REAL unemployment rate, which means he is talking about people not in the labor force. Everyone with a brain knows that.
All those private sector jobs are shit jobs that are going to immigrants. Everyone knows that too
>>72185476
>which means he is talking about people not in the labor force.
So Trump thinks my 80 year old grandma is unemployed?
She's out of the labor force for a reason, retard. She's RETIRED.
Wow he is mentally unfit for office.
>>72185269
>http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
>I actually saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. Forty-two percent.
>We asked the Trump campaign for a source of the 42 percent figure, but they didn’t respond. The Fact Checker, however, traced it back to a column by David Stockman, who served as President Ronald Reagan’s budget director.
>"the real unemployment rate was 42.9 percent," Stockman wrote.
>We rate his claim Pants on Fire.
>politifact
So Trump said he saw somewhere that the number was as high as 42%. Politifact found the article that had that number. Then they called Trump a liar. Fuck off leaf
>>72185645
The unemployment numbers are designed to make the economy appear to be doing better than it actually is. Many people who should be counted are not counted. If you look at the percentage of people who are out of work now compared to before Obama took office it is greater now.
>>72185645
Well is she employed?
If she is not contributing to society in any way then she IS unemployed and from now on you'll see old people being refered to as unenployed much more since the first world countries are crippling over entitlements for the aging population.
Fact is: She is not working therefore she is unemployed.
This does not mean anything bad, it simply means what it means. She doesnt work and must not be treated with the same numbers as someone who does.
>>72185269
>OBAMA DINDU NUFFIN
He's still blaming his shit on Bush, only fair Trump does the same.
>>72185269
This was planned over a hundred years ago, everything was already planned lad. Stop living in a dream.
>>72185269
Damn again? How many times do you have to post this to buy a quarter of bud?
kek this pathetic virgin spams this shit every day
he does it FOR FREE
pic related is him, don't reply
>>72185957
See that's the problem why Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office. If someone just tells him something, he believes it without even checking into. He's obviously severely mentally handicapped.
>In the column, Stockman himself acknowledges that this figure is imperfect, even though his tone is flip when he does so.
"Yes, we have to allow for non-working wives, students, the disabled, early retirees and coupon clippers," he wrote.
Like I said, if you think my retired 80 year old grandma or my 16 year old nephew is unemployed, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution.
David Stockman, quit as Reagan's budget director cause Republicans are clueless when it comes to finances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zglXrBni5dE
>>72186193
>If you look at the percentage of people who are out of work now compared to before Obama took office it is greater now.
COMPLETELY FALSE.
You just pulled that out of your ass.
The U4 rate is way down.
Before you jump to your talking point. Read the top of the chart. What is the U4 rate?
>>72186647
>Like I said, if you think my retired 80 year old grandma or my 16 year old nephew is unemployed, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution.
It makes sense to look at the total percentage out of work now compared to the total percentage out of work 8 years ago. As long as you comparing the same thing, it is valid.
>>72186798
>unemployment
I already explained to you that statistic is not a good metric
>>72186261
No she's not unemployed. She's out of the labor force. Unemployed means you are actively looking for work. My 80 year old grandma is not looking for work. Neither are disabled people, stay at home moms, sick people, kids in high school, etc etc.
Why are right wingers this retarded?
How stupid do you have to be to think the unemployment rate is 42%? That's like Trump level retard.
>>72186289
Nice charts for ants bro.
Unemployment rate down to 5%. You fuckers just can't admit it because you hate America and want to see it fail.
>>72186968
Use the correct definition of unemployed. Not employed.
Is she employed or not employed?
The looking for job is related to the "government definition of employment"
>>72186832
Right. That's the unemployment rate. It's been cut in half under Obama.
>>72186904
Go on. Please explain why the U4 unemployment rate is not a good metric. I'll wait.
>>72186968
The point is, they do not work.
Get it, nigger? You can say whatever the fuck you want but a person who does not work is unemployed because the person does not work. It is no longer productive.
So those statistics are not wrong, you are simply choosing to interpret them wrong.
>>72187193
You realize that Obama didn't change the definition of the unemployment rate right? It's been calculated the same way for decades.
In fact, the BLS has been reporting labor data since the 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Labor_Statistics
The number didn't become fake until a black man became president and right wingers went full retard.
>>72187485
great? is grandma employed or not?
>>72187468
Except nobody other than right wing retards consider 80 year old grandmas unemployed. They're out of the labor force and not looking for work. You idiots don't even know what unemployed means.
>>72187248
>>72187302
Not in labor force feb 2016 93,482,000
US population 323,705,939
Percentage not in labor force: 28.8%
Not in labor force Jan 2009 80,529,000
US pop: 307,231,961
Percentage not in labor force: 26.2%
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/
>>72186968
If you are only 30 years old but not "actively looking for work" you also don't count as unemployed.
>>72187632
Is your grandma employed or not?
>>72187602
Holy shit. You right wing retards couldn't even pass ECON101.
This is incredible. You think 80 year olds are UNEMPLOYED.
Holy shit.
Trump's plan is to put 80 year old grandmas back to work.
WTF!!!
>Who is not in the labor force?
As mentioned previously, the labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as not in the labor force.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#nilf
>>72187728
AAHAHAH you fell right in my trap!! The BLS lists the exact reasons why people aren't in the labor force. Pic related.
AHAHAHA you just got BTFO.
You thought 93 million Americans were unemployed?! AHAHAHA
You never even heard of baby boomers? AHAHAHAH
“Each day,10,000 baby boomers retire and begin receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/
Holy shit right wingers are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet!!!
>>72187821
only a monkey would figure out this late he was getting played.
>>72187753
Implying I said she was unemployed, I'm asking you if you would consider her employed or unemployed. Pick one of the two please.
>>72187248
How did he influence this trend?
>>72187746
What is the U4 rate. Holy shit you people are morons.
READ THE FUCKING CHART DUMBASS.
I said U4 rate, not U3.
>>72186798
Are you people really this stupid?
>>72187821
>those who have no job and are not looking for one
>this only includes old people
lel, so if half the country is neet it counts as good employment?
>>72186575
Actually I'm pretty fit. You're posting an obvious American.
I can't believe Americans are such morons that they think the unemployment rate is 42%. You motherfuckers must really hate your own country if you're willing to lie about it that much.
This is the 5th time this week you've made this thread. how much are you getting paid to post this? I just got fired from my job, can I send my resume to your boss?
>>72188179
If NEETS are stay at home moms like Melania Trump, children like Barron Trump, students like whats her name ugly daughter Trump, + retirees, the disabled (Trumptards), etc etc then yeah.
>>72187961
The1chartrightwingershate
>>72188065
By the chart at the top.
>>72188208
What % of people in america are employed? Rather than bitch about how high we think the non employment rate is.
>>72188310
>I just got fired from my job
MUH LABOR FORCE!!!
>>72186647
>republican houses are superior
lol you walked right into my trap famalam
>>72188310
>it's now Obama's fault some random african in Negrotina lost their job.
>>72187821
He is talking about "The real unemployement number"
When you talk about the "real number" it is assumed that you take into consideration everything including people who are eligible and not to work because they are part of the real whole society that make up the reality of that number.
If you cannot wrap your head about how everyone who is not employed is unemployed in this scenario then you are completely retarded.
There are two things a person can be in this:
EMPLOYED or UNEMPLOYED. Which one of those two does your grandma fit in?
Now he is not saying that the 42 real number should not exist. He's not talking about putting grannies to work. But he is talking about how much it will burder the next generation to pay for all of those who cannot contribute to society due to any reason. He is talking about that instead of 42 it maybe should come closer to 30.
>>72185269
>Implying he isn't right about the unemployment rate.
Every country in the world is fudging these figures to protect globalism from the worst evil it has inflicted upon us.
>>72188460
The U3 rate has been the official unemployment rate for decades.
The BLS has been putting out labor data since the 1800s.
None of this became fake until a black Democrat became president and right wingers went full autist.
I want to know one thing. Honestly. I want to know this from you tards.
If the unemployment rate right now is 42%. Then what was it when Obama entered office? By your right wing retard math, it must have been like what? 84%?
>>72188489
I don't mind getting paid to shill on some internet forum if the pay is more or less decent
do you get paid for every reply you get? how do they measure your performance?
>>72187821
>WTF!!! D:<<<<<<
sure showed us leaf
tfw people won't stop responding to this dumbfuck shill
>implying the DOW isn't being inflated super hard right now, so Obama leaves on a great note, and Trump comes in for it to finally burst
Yeah, it's totally conservashit to think it'll be Obama's fault.........
>>72188521
So you admit Trump is mentally unfit for office and that his followers are full on retards.
>>72188446
What policies did he personally authorize that resulted in this chart?
>>72188604
You would fail ECON 101.
Who is not in the labor force?
As mentioned previously, the labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as not in the labor force. Many who are not in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force.
>>72188638
I was asking you to tell me the number, you seem to be a "smart guy" what % of america currently has a job?/ is employed. I'm going to define %(percent) of america as employed workers vs total population or works/population.
>>72188749
>republicans are superior
>"so democrats are superior?"
How did you get past the captcha? lel
>>72188677
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it comes up in the general that Trump is so stupid that he thinks that the unemployment rate is 42% and his followers want 80 year old grandmas and 16 year old high school kids toiling in the mines.
>>72188843
The turnaround from the Bush disaster couldn't be more obvious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
You guys weren't born yet but I lived through that time and I remember how Obama turned the economy around.
>>72188872
>You would fail ECON 101.
Your problem is that someone who has only taken Econ 101 is not more qualified than someone who hasn't, it's simply too basic.
>Much of the growth under Democratic presidents has been the result of private-sector investment and increased consumption. They have been blessed with lower oil prices, larger increases in productivity and better global economic conditions. The timing of Democratic presidents appears impeccable compared with Republicans—Mr Clinton took office just as the technology sector began to boom, whereas George W. Bush could not get out before the financial crisis.
correlation=/= causation, my little cancuckold
>>72185269
>Counting part time bullshit as "jobs"
>>72188907
Are we talking about the U3 unemployment rate which has been the official rate for decades and wasn't considered fake until a black man became president and right wingers went full retard?
Because, until you take ECON101, you won't understand that 80 year old grandmas are not unemployed.
>>72189000
Why do you keep talking about what the claimed unemployment rate is, but don't tell us what the real employment rate is? This is a real easy way to deal with the troll.
If it's wrong let us know what % of america is working.
>>72187103
how many jobs were lost total
"created since x" is misleading because if you never get back all the ones that were lost, you're still in the negative
>>72188872
In case you can still not understand what he is talking about then look at Germany.
It has a low 4% unemployement rate. However it is starting to cripple with entitlement services and safety services. The actual percentage of unemployement is 40% (people who do not contribute to society in any way and only drain resources).
So what the Germans felt the need to do to hold this gap is import immigrants.
They need 9.5 million util 2025 to keep their real unemployement (the people getting retired and etc) from affecting their economy.
So we consider EVERYONE in this "Real unemployement" Even people who cannot work. Because we are talking about the society as a whole and about how the people who work must pay for those who do not regardless of the reason to why they dont.
>>72189073
>Obama turned the economy around.
By following common sense Keynesian policy and then sitting on his ass? An aging recession is an excellent thing to inherit, just look at Reagan and Carter
>>72189141
BAHAHAHA
EVEN A 1ST GRADER COULD IDENTIFY THIS PATTERN.
>Democrats are just lucky
>We should vote Republican just to be safe.
Fucking Trumptards man. Biggest retards on the planet.
>>72189237
No were not, were talking about real employment rates.
Why would I care about u3 rates?
>>72189240
The real unemployment rate is the official rate which as been the real rate for decades.
If you want to include discouraged workers, that would be the U4 rate which I've posted here a few times already. Pic related again.
>>72189360
>>>72189141 (You)
>BAHAHAHA
>EVEN A 1ST GRADER COULD IDENTIFY THIS PATTERN.
>Alan Blinder and Mark Watson, economists at Princeton University, studied the last 16 presidential terms
Oops, lol
Write a letter to these Princeton analysts and tell them you're right bb, I'm sure they won't laugh at the your hot pocket stained analysis
>>72187961
you fell into my trap. you outed yourself as a real deal shill
anyone can go on 4plebs and confirm
>>72189480
why do you keep talking about unemployment? I'm talking about employment.
>>72189340
>So we consider EVERYONE in this "Real unemployement"
Who's the we? You and a bunch of retards who just made this shit up?
Nobody with any credibility agrees with this.
If you want to talk about the drain on public resources that retirement of the baby boomers places, that's a legitimate argument to have, but that doesn't mean you start pulling shit out of your ass about what the unemployment rate is.
>>72189684
>Nobody with any credibility agrees with this.
Who has credibility in your eyes? You've just called an elite team of Princeton economists "kindergarteners"
>>72189349
Are you under some sort of right wing retard misconception that Reagan inherited a Bush-like crash from Carter?
We don't want Mexicans in the country. We're going to put tariffs on imports. And if you want that pipeline, we're taking a 25% cut.
That's the deal, faggots.
>>72189684
Nobody has to agree to call people who not work one thing and the people who do another.
People who are not working in this scenario are clearly the "Unemployed" and the people who are are the "Employed".
>>72189818
The elite team at Princeton who said that the economy does better under Democrats yet you still vote Republican because you obviously want the economy to fail.
>>72189833
He did inherit a recession. Are you retarded? lol
>job average
irrelevant when experts agree that the economy was stronger under Reagan
>>72189878
They aren't for statistical purposes, someone who isn't working isn't employed or unemployed. Thus you have to ask for the % of population that is employed. Note I'm being ignored while you get trolled, hard.
>>72185269
I wonder who cracked the whip on the shills tonight.
They seem to be out in full force, more than usual.
>>72189595
The chart at the top is job creation. Why do right wingers not want to admit that Obama has one of the best job creation record in modern American history?
Over 14.4 MILLION jobs.
73 straight months of job creation, the longest streak in American history.
ALL TIME HIGH job openings by the way.
The only thing that unites right wingers is their mutual hate for their country and constant willingness to bash the US economy.
>>72190008
>The elite team at Princeton who said that the economy does better under Democrats
They said that it's simply luck, especially since 4-5 presidencies are hardly a statistic
kek you're sounding kind of desperate senpai, maybe you should put the hot pocket down
>>72190008
>obviously want the economy to fail
Sure. Why not? That's a pretty surefire way to destroy Zionism is one clean shot.
>>72185645
Professional shill.
Can you spot them yet?
>>72190156
>ALL TIME HIGH job openings by the way.
ALL TIME HIGH population btw
>>72190156
Come on m8 change your copy pasta a bit to be related.
>>72190076
If you idiots had a clue, you would understand that unemployment is a function of the labor force.
There are reasons why people are not in the labor force. Your so called MUH 93 MILLION.
>>72187961
You completely fail this part of the test because you've been programmed to believe that 80 year old grandmas and 16 year old high school kids and stay at home moms and the disabled are unemployed when they are in fact out of the labor force for good reason.
All of you fail to realize that Trump will be elected president.
>>72190360
I have a clue, as you said there are not 42% unemployed, if that is the case, what is the % employed?
>>72190108
samefagging to point something out
>>72186921
>>72190239
Wait a minute. Are you so retarded that you think this chart tracks population growth?
So over 14 million jobs created under Obama. One of the best records.
5% unemployment.
All time high job openings.
Lowest jobless claims since 1973.
Yet you retards think the unemployment rate is 42%.
WOW!
>>72190271
I will soon. The May jobs report comes out next week. Probably another +200,000 jobs created. Right wingers are going to be so pissed at this success!
>>72190360
or a better question, what % of population of america are currently paying into social security while not collecting it.
>>72190164
AHAHAHA so let me get this straight. The team at Princeton said the US economy does better under Democrats but you're voting Republican? AHAHAHA so you're admitting you want to the US economy to do worse.
>>72185269
>>72185269
Ok leaf, it's gone too far.
We talked in your first post of this meme this morning.
>muh 42%
>muh 14 million jobs
>muh should my grandma work
You know...like 12 hours ago.
Nigga do you sleep?
I am worried for you.
Seriously.
He's not all bad guise. He seems like a nice enough dude but he really hates conservatives
Unemployment figures have been gamed by the administration to make itself look better since at least Reagan
>Obama claims unemployment at 5%
>also, chocolate rations are up this month!
Trump's % is probably a tad on the high side, but it's easily 20-30%. And then factor in Obamacare is responsible for turning a lot of jobs into McJobs where the Corporate Overlord only uses part-timers to avoid paying their jew tax to CEO Schlomo Goldberg down at Insurance Company INC
>>72190168
At least you're an honest right winger. Most right wing retards actually have the stupidity to claim that failed conservative economic policies are actually good for the economy.
>>72190610
>One of the best records
By percentage, it certainly isn't
>Are you so retarded that you think this chart tracks population growth?
Never said anything about that chart or 42%, put the hot pocket down fatty
>WOW!
lol I can smell your cheeto breath from here
>>72190671
200,000 jobs isn't even close to getting us out of this ponzi scheme of social security.
>>72190463
% of the labor force employed? Is that what you're asking? It's 95%.
>>72185269
>When Trump crashes the US economy
Thankfully Drumpf will never be in the white house to crash the economy to begin with.
>>72190749
US economy is potentially fucked regardless of right or left election victory
>>72190589
I have never once used a proxy. These people know who I am. Don't ever claim I am a Jose. Does my flag look like stars and stripes to you?
>>72185645
>>72186647
>>72188749
>mentally unfit for office
>mentally handicapped
>retards
Wow. That's pretty discriminatory, leaf.
I'm going to have to report you to the authorities for hatespeech. It's 2016, after all.
>>72190749
>33post by this ID
[somewhere a tear rolls down a Canadian father's face]
>>72190907
no, population, labor force is a different metric.
>>72190749
>The team at Princeton said the US economy does better under Democrats but you're voting Republican?
You seem to struggle with reading, so I'll help you my little canccuk downy
The team said that there simply haven't been enough presidencies for statistical significance.
Jesus, you're a sad little man
>>72190836
The "economy" isn't a good thing in and of itself so if there is something that harms it or the people who perpetuate it, that isn't a negative. Neo-liberal scum, like you, don't understand this.
Attacking what ought be attacked is a virtue, not a vice.
>>72190836
>>72185269
>Canada
>Gold reserves
>>72190882
Get those 90 year olds toiling in the mines!
- Trumptards
>>72185645
Leaflet
>>72191140
Unrelated?
>>72191140
Get this faggot out of my basement
-your cancuck mother
>All these Trumpcucks literally BTFO
Holy shit good job OP
>>72191019
Are you so dumb you can't figure out I'm calling you a paid shill?
As in this script you are using is getting passed around and now you've been outed?
>>72186289
Citation needed.
>>72191043
Exactly. I answered your question. The % of the labor force that is employed is 95%.
Here are the reasons for why people are not in the labor force.
So now you tell me. Why do right wing retards think the unemployment rate is 42%? Do you agree that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office.
>>72185269
>presidents control the economy outside of taxes and tarrifs
give it up leaf, you've been btfo so many times it's like you enjoy the salty seed slurping down your throat.
>>72191301
He hasn't successfully answered a single one of my objections. He's taking aim at the dumbasss, but ignoring my posts out of desperation. Shill harder bb
>>72191079
But of the ones they studied, they said the economy does better under Democrats. Yet you vote Republican. So why do you want the economy to fail?
>>72189360
Well wait a minute this is an inersting coloration but in the early 90's we had a conservative Congress, and I might be mistaken we had a liberal Congress during the bush years. Currently the Republicans control Congress. So you may actually be wrong one this.
Guys he does this every fucking week with the same bait threads and Fabricated Charts.
Stop feeding him
This same thread gets made by the same person every single day. Dumping the same images and ignoring every response given. Screencap and report it everytime.
>>72191301
Thanks man. It's too easy. CNSnews, zerohedge and others take advantage of these Trumptards' stupidity and fill with them incorrect information that I easily debunk in 2 seconds.
>>72191342
because he's taking into account how much money will need to be put aside for people who will need government assistance
>>72191394
I've B you TFO every time.
>>72191342
Why are you talking about the labor force and then asking me a question?
I asked you a question, what % of the american population is employed?
I mean if were answering questions with questions, how small is your dick and why do people with dicks over 3 inches rape 6 year olds?
>>72191405
>they said the economy does better under Democrats.
They said this was purely luck and, therefore, should not effect voting. So why do you want people to vote based on superstition?
>>72191462
>Slurs and hurls insults like a 12 year old at everyone
>Gets butt hurt when people do it to him
the economy has nothing to do with the president. Furthermore the president does nothing for the economy except create an image of hope and exaggeration. Everything that is happening has happened because it is intended to and planned by the people who put the system in place in 1913. The average person is getting ignorant and more materialistic which is exactly what "these" people want. Obama is no saint because hes a part of the problem too.
>>72191499
Where can I get a job like this?
>>72191421
>and I might be mistaken we had a liberal Congress during the bush years.
Bush had a GOP Congress from 2001-2007.
Wew lad.
When Clinton left office, left George Bush, a GOP House and a GOP Senate a $315 BILLION budget surplus and a 10 year plan to completely pay off the national debt?
What did the GOP do to it?
>>72185269
What a lot of people don't realize and don't want to face, is that our economy is in need of a crash, to iron out the inflated bubbles from propped up companies, from tax payer bailouts, our endless printing cooked numbers on unemployment/low workforce participation and ridiculously low, on the verge of negative interest rates.
When the truth stops stinging, it is officially then... you are under the influence of the red pill.
>>72191575
>I've B you TFO every time.
By cutting my statements in half and regurgitating logical fallacies? It's a shame you couldn't cut my intellect in half to match your own feeble one.
>>72191446
>Guys he does this every fucking week with the same bait threads and Fabricated Charts.
Facts are now bait and fabricated.
Holy shit to be a right wing retard...
>>72191678
>thinks posting Stefbot = butthurt
>>72191591
Because for one the economy is largely psychological.
>>72191691
we had a war to fight which was unavoidable so it was decided we go in before it got to FUBAR
>>72191800
nice voodoo
>>72191394
He's debunked all of them, you're just too ignorant to accept it and have been resorting to dead memes
Get BTFO shill
>>72185645
If your 80 year old grandma is retired then it is not added to the real unemployment number.
>>72185269
gtfo /pol/ you shill
>>72191499
Wtf? My replies are custom made to the right wing retard that I'm replying to.
How can you possibly claim they are the same images when the charts are updated monthly.
And how can you claim I ignore every response given when I have dozens upon dozens of replies.
Did you just blatantly make shit up, right wing retard?
Don't you think it's shameful that right wing retards are such liars?
Why does anyone post in these threads?
You'd learn more by eating lead paint.
> sage all leaf threads.
>>72191866
>He's debunked all of them,
Nope, he has only been misstating my arguments
get btfo, neckbeard
>>72185269
When do the government layoffs begin? If the economy "crashes" as a result of that, so be it-- it needs to happen.
>>72191703
mfw when I'm so drunk that It's bed time but I can tell this guy is using a contrived metric to claim that the us economy is fine.
op didn't even bother to try to claim it was incorrect, this has been a troll thread since go and people seem to be missing my posts.
I'm stammered and I can "force" the question in a way that the guy can't answer it. After he doesn't answer it he still entertains it. This is how you get played be bitches.
RREEEEEE
OBAMA HAS BEEN SHUTTING DOWN THE COAL MINES
MY BROTHER LOST HIS JOB AND I HAVE TO SUPPORT HIS FAT ASS UNTIL HE FINDS A NEW ONE
>b-but muh hillbillies are poor
OF COURSE THEY ARE FUCKING POOR, ALL REALISTIC JOBS ARE GETTING DESTROYED. ALUMINUM PLANTS ARE SHUTTING DOWN IN THIS AREA, LEAVING DOZENS IN MY TOWN(about 500) WITHOUT WORK. OBAMA MAY BE DOING OK IN THE REST OF THE NATION, BUT HE IS DESTROYING SE OHIO AND WV. CUNT.
>>72191827
>wars are unavoidable under Republicans
Got it.
Another great reason not to vote Republican.
>>72185269
Yeah, because dems would _never_ blame the previous administration for the current economic situation.
>>72191977
He's been quoting you word for word
You're the dumbass who doesn't know how to properly state his arguments so he doesn't have an opening
Get B T F O
>>72191976
CPI since 1975?
THANKS OBAMA!
Checkmate. I've been BTFO now.. You heard it here first folks.
>>72192024
we asian now.
>>72190008
>He's been quoting you word for word
>>72190749
>>72191405
These are word for word quotes? They aren't even meaningful responses.
>You're the dumbass who doesn't know how to properly state his arguments so he doesn't have an opening
I've already stated it, and he failed to respond
get BTFO, my desperate little shill
>>72191691
Yes OK but then how do you explain the housing bubble crisis then? If that was caused by Clinton during his wonderful years on office saving the economy shouldn't you own up that? You don't get to have it both ways, just like us.
>people still believe the unemployment numbers are made up
its been calculated that way for damn near 40 years but somehow people take issue with it now
>>72192093
Didn't blame Obama retard. Learn how to read.
>>72192027
>Works in a coal mine
IT'S 2016!
Coal can't compete with natural gas playa.
The free market killed coal.
>While the Environmental Protection Agency’s smokestack emissions standards certainly aren’t helpful for coal, the rules have been around in some form for decades, and the first federal regulation to permanently cap and reduce coal plants’ mercury emissions was issued in 2005, during the George W. Bush administration.
Five myths about coal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-coal/2015/08/07/9aac05f2-3bd0-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html
>>72192082
here are the "word for word" quotes bb
Why lie when the evidence is right here? seems kind of dumb lol
>>72191901
Your throwing around retard a lot suggests you're getting upset would you care to talk about something else it might help you calm
down.
>>72192035
no the situation in Iraq it would have collapsed pretty soon the US invasion probably made getting control of the situation easier if the reconstruction plan was given a bit more time it could have worked also didn't help Obama pulled out to early and let all those peoples hard work and sacrifice go to waste.
>>72192093
He never said that retard. Learn how to read.
>>72192204
people that had/have enoujgh money to buy up all the houses can "wait" until they can resell them if they can't resell them. It's not a bunch of people with no credit that own all the houses that they can't afford this time around. The banks and rich people got them.
>>72192082
Here's another trick these idiots do.
Every time I post one of these threads, I BTFO like 100 of these right wing retards. Then they'll go back and find 1 post that I missed, and they claim that I was BTFO.
That's how desperate they are.
>>72192204
>>72192329
Oh sorry I was talking about the current one. we bubble 2.0
>>72192351
>Then they'll go back and find 1 post that I missed, and they claim that I was BTFO.
>That's how desperate they are.
You mean every single one of my posts? You didn't miss the posts though, only the arguments
>>72192204
>Yes OK but then how do you explain the housing bubble crisis then?
Easy.
George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False
Can you believe this retard was a Republican president? That was a rough 8 years for America.
>>72185269
Shut the fuck up you syrup licker! Don't worry about real politics just keep North and dream of your cum gobbling faggot PM not giving your country to Islam.
>>72192267
I don't drink. I don't want to end up like Trump's dead brother.
>>72192422
isn't Clinton partially responsible for that
>>72192495
kek, did trump fuck your mom?
>>72192276
There is no other way to classify someone who thinks the US unemployment rate is 42%, and that there are 93 MILLION Americans unemployed.
Believe me, I was being kind when I said retard. Quite frankly these morons shouldn't be allowed to vote and Trump is clearly mentally unfit for office.
>>72185269
Pfffttt we can do better.
>>72192351
Everyone is out to get you.
It's all because of you, not your continuous spewing of lies.
The same lies, every 8 hours.
You get proven wrong over and over, yet pretend ignorance a few hours later when you make the same thread.
You're a living meme.
>>72192422
That was Clinton's policy! I know this for a fact because there is NO way may dad could have bought a house in PA back in 99'. You sir are a lier. Good day!
>>72192415
Yet you lied and claimed I was ignoring you when I clearly replied and made my case. You know for a fact that the US economy does better under Democrats yet you vote Republican. Does this classify you as a right wing retard? Or just a typical Trumptard America hater.
>>72192568
how many Americans are employed? Or is it just not 42% are unemployed? Is it less than 58% are employed?
>>72185269
Two times in a day with this thread? Go do something more productive pal!
>>72192568
I've noticed your technique is to post the same thing over and over, regardless of who you're replying to. Then, when they reject your straw man, you say "Well you admit I'm right then!"
pretty sad senpai
>Quite frankly these morons shouldn't be allowed to vote
I administer SAT tests, which often correlate with iq. Your verbal iq seems to be below 95
>>72192541
I admit that was a bit below the belt. Not very Canadian of me.
>>72192568
>calling for discrimination against the disabled
you are a poor excuse for a Canadian I have called for progressive boxing master Trudeu to punish you for your intolerance.
>>72185645
>political fact isn't biased!
>>72192713
>Yet you lied and claimed I was ignoring you when I clearly replied and made my case.
No, you only distorted mine out of desperation.
You ignored half of my case.
>You know for a fact that the US economy does better under Democrats
I also know for a fact, thanks to this study, that it's mainly coincidence. In other words, your "argument" has a sample size of...10? lol
>. Does this classify you as a right wing retard
Ask the princeton economists who back me up, neckbeard
By the way, the fact that you think Carter was a good president is hilarious. Really shows you don't know your stuff
>>72192643
You know the funny part though? You guys are actually Carl the Cuck. You make up bullshit like that the US economy is worse now than when Obama took office, you deny that Obama inherited the worst Republican mess since the Republican Great Depression, you claim the unemployment rate is 42%, you claim there are 93 million Americans are unemployed, you claim the US economy is so so bad, yet you have no facts to back it up. Just failed right wing memes.
When I ask you retards for actual facts, basically your answer is pic related.
I don't even think you idiots know that the baby boomers are a demographic bulge.
>>72185269
economic crash is already happening, the current bubble is bursting at the seams.
>>72192994
>I don't even think you idiots know
Well, why else would you come here? It's the only place someone like you can find other on his low level lol
>>72192994
your right its not worse its still in just as bad a position as before and people not working are technically unemployed your getting worked up over a technicality
>>72192257
I know about the natural gas, i rent land to the pipeline company, a chill 60,000 a year+ potential 2 million from royalties in future pumping. Its how i live comfortably. Also most people in my town are not at all affected by the Natural Gas boom, because my family and I bought the Mineral Rights to their land, and then bought their land, dumb cunts. Obama had no hand in the Natural gas boom, I already had filings with gas companies in 2007, but the crash halted that for 3 years. Also what you find is that half of the Mineral Rights is held by dead people or people who don't know they own the mineral rights, making it too much of a hassle for many of the landowners to settle in court, therefore making it useful. About 8 people and my family are the few gainers from the boom. Also, most of the workers for the companies i have seen are mexicans, not native West Virginians or Ohioans. .
>>72192753
>I administer SAT tests, which often correlate with iq.
Can you please administer an IQ test to /pol/. I would love to see the results of these right wing retards.
Not to brag but my IQ is over 140. I never took an SAT because I'm a LEAF.
>>72192994
> this is the response you give me when I prove you wrong.
Thought I'd give it back to you.
You're still wrong.
>>72192814
Ok but try not stare at his package.
>this many replies to a shill
Why waste your time
>>72192329
It doesn't matter that house of cards is about the fall big time. Hedge fund owners are tapped out, and China is also about to get a lesson in owning too much real estate.
>>72193188
>Can you please administer an IQ test to /pol/. I would love to see the results of these right wing retards.
I sort of have, privately. You're actually slightly below the average here lol, at least in terms of verbal iq
>>72193101
I come here to make fun of right wing morons. Is that so wrong?
When Glenn Beck used to do this thing called a Blazecast, I used to go on there and make fun of them. Wherever right wing retards congregate, I make fun of them.
>>72193232
he doesn't let it show that would be misogynistic
>>72193305
How's my anal IQ?
>>72193310
>I come here to make fun of right wing morons.
But you spend most of the time attacking straw men, which suggest that these "morons" are more intelligent :(
>>72193319
He did afterwards.
>>72193269
And those that own the house of cards can afford armed gaurds and gold. I'm kinda interested if the plan is placate the poor/middle class with gibmedats and then at some point randomly cut if off when they have guards.
>>72193265
They can't resist the urge to try to B me TFO. Yet they fail every time. Right wingers do seem to bathe in failure.
our economy is still historically shitty
>taking credit for the business cycle
he spent record amounts of money after a recession. Of course the unemployment rate went down. It's still a garbage recovery.
>>72193376
ask trump, he seems to have caused you a lot of damage down there
>>72193400
I don't attack strawmen. These idiots legitimately believe that the unemployment rate is 42%. Hell, Trump believes that!
I posted a chart of Obama's job creation success and they can't handle it.
>>72193428
he would never do that you intolerant liar
>63 posts of a canadian defending obama and thinking that presidents create jobs
>>72193530
Not with that little thing.
>>72191901
>>72134889
Here's the same shitty dump from 8 hours ago.
>>7183175
From 3 days ago.
>>71570183
>>71546752
>>71599242
From three different threads 6 days ago.
A list of the last 21 times you've dumped these exact same images.
April 01 >>69609391
April 03 >>69766901
April 04 >>69958203
April 05 >>70024260
April 05 >>69966457
April 06 >>70147287
April 06 >>70170374
April 06 >>70134353
April 08 >>70370738
April 08 >>70376703
April 09 >>70473531
April 09 >>70471532
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April 09 >>70404756
April 10 >>70547268
April 12 >>70785298
April 13 >>70844548
April 13 >>70856361
April 14 >>70948154
April 15 >>71001563
April 15 >>71058795
>>72193507
>Chart ends in 2013.
Don't you know how to derive up to date data on the internet?
Here's U3 through U6 under President Obama.
You'll see they've all plummeted under his watch.
>>72193634
you're right, your asshole is probably stretched out by now :(
>>72185269
nothing says entrepreneurial spirit like 90% taxes on your small business!
as a businessman, Trump's tax plan is exactly what we need to stimulate local economies. it gives alot more leverage for small businesses to compete against multinationals. i doesn't even the playing field, but it was never even to begin with. It's the best out of any candidates in the race.
>>72185269
Faggot shill.
>>72193591
>I don't attack strawmen
You have several times itt, pretty pathetic lol
>>72193676
Yeah and all those threads are me BTFO right wing retards.
What's the problem?
I post plenty of different charts as well.
Would you prefer I mix things up?
I often see the same images posted here over and over, especially of my beloved Prime Minister.
Yet nothing seems to get you losers riled up like this chart of Obama job creation.
>>72193730
Nah it's pretty tight tbqh senpai. Stop dreaming about my asshole. I'm not as handsome as Trudeau ok.
>>72193719
>chart starts in 2009
I don't get why there are so many canadian obama nuthuggers. Both Bush and Obama were shit.
>>72193899
this theyre both globalist cock suckers
>>72193899
>chart starts in 2009
Sorry when did you think Obama became president?
>>72192257
Also, Coal jobs were filled with West Virginians and Ohioans. These construction jobs and Natural gas jobs are filled mainly by Hispanics / Mexicans. It does not benefit the people who have been living here due to reasons as i stated here >>72193167
>>72193827
You get refutted thousand of times and ignore every single one. Then go on to spam the same thread multiple times daily. There is no right wing BTFO going on. Just shilling.
>>72193827
>Yet nothing seems to get you losers riled up like this chart of Obama job creation.
And nothing riles you up like a Democrat who shits on your nonsense anyway.Not that it matters, you always end up running away. Your punishment is that you will spend much of your life spamming shit on 4chan and eating hotpockets lel
>>72193719
>they've all plummeted under his watch.
btw this is called the business cycle. Giving credit to one person for it is retarded.
>>72193993
because you totally ignored my point. The economy is shit and wages have been stagnant for a long time. That's why Trump is winning. No one could give a shit that the economy is a bit better than the worst recession in 100 years.
and btw unemployment went that low while spending record amounts and keeping record low interest rates for an unprecedented length of time. Not exactly amazing.
>>72193827
>all those threads are me getting my shit pushed in, by people all over the world.
Thought I'd fix your tiny spelling mistake.
Is Obama (born 1961) more of a Gen X or Babyboomer?
>>72194058
I have sometimes over 100 replies in each of those threads and I BTFO right wing retards every time.
If I was getting BTFO, wouldn't I stop replying? Wouldn't I stop posting the same chart?
I post the chart because I know it triggers you retards.
Funny how you keep making these false claims, yet you have no examples.
All you can do is find 1 post out of hundreds that I maybe missed and claim that I was BTFO. I can't possibly reply to every single one of hundreds of posts from right wing retards.
>>72193445
Their not that smart! And they never have a plan. The bailouts are a perfect example of that. It's just organized chaos. Which is fine, that's why people who always plan for the weather are NEVER DRESSED RIGHT, and anyone who doesn't plan always needs a sweater. It's all chance
>>72187103
Most people are working low skilled part-time jobs and those who are not seeking actively jobs do not count as unemployed. Go and watch how Jamal fucks your wife instead, leaf.
>2015. feb.
> http://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/official-unemployment-is-a-big-lie-043/
>So who is not counted in the Department of Labor’s headline unemployment number? At least 30 million Americans fall into the following categories:
>People who are paid at least $20 a week for odd jobs.
>The severely underemployed, like highly trained professionals working only 10 hours a week.
>Anyone who hasn’t looked for a job in the past four weeks.
>That’s 30 million people unaccounted for in the government’s unemployment rate. With a population of about 320.25 million, that’s a nearly 10% underemployment rate on top of the official 5.6%.
>>72194300
>>72194053
oi m8 stop missing mine
>>72194300
>If I was getting BTFO, wouldn't I stop replying?
You're new here, aren't you?
>>72185269
You post here constantly using the same picture and same argument and only reply to people with bad arguments and never reply to actual arguments. You do this for fucking hours a day and the only reason I can think of why you would do this is because you're a gigantic faggot.
>>72194186
>btw this is called the business cycle. Giving credit to one person for it is retarded.
I always love this argument.
If it's your beloved business cycle then aren't we overdue for another Bush-style crash this year? It's Obama's last year. Where's the millions and millions of job losses?
>because you totally ignored my point.
No I didn't. You posted some old ass chart of U3 to U6 from 2013 that most right wing retards would fall for.
I showed what those metrics have done under Obama and they've plummeted.
By the way, U6 is the broadest measure. It's UNDER-employment. It's 9.8%. So how the hell does mentally unfit for office Donald Trump get to 42% unemployment?
>>72185269
The economy is already crashing irregardles of who is president.
American is already in a recession, just like they were even before Lehman brothers went down
>>72194367
He doesn't like facts, and will ignore you unless you post Facebook memes.
>>72194300
if you beat them the fuck out you would only need 1 thread but there so many so you must be coming back to try and prove your right so your wrong or taking your anger out on us because of what >>72194367 said here
>>72194493
its probably going to get worse if the Saudi go to shit or china does something
>>72194427
>because you're a gigantic faggot
You mean paid shill. America is heading for a greater than the great recession. My guess is they're gonna blame Trump but it's unavoidable at this point it's caused by 8 years of bad monetary policy
>>72194588
more like 2 decades
>>72194192
NOT 1 EXAMPLE.
What a fail.
>>72194588
It is going to be an insane bloodbath. Millions and millions will suddenly lose their employment, their welfare, their livelihood, riots, lootings, mass violence, god. Move away from black neighborhoods now, burgers.
There are no productive jobs. The private sector construction jobs during the housing bubble were not productive. The economy has become one big bubble. Quantitative easing inevitably leads to that.
Bush could have prevented the housing crisis by funneling more money into the housing industry to keep the artificial demand there. He could have even increased the number of private sector jobs by doing that, but the bigger the bubble the worse the bust.
I'm pretty sure this is the same maple that spammed threads about niggers being kangs n shiet.
Can we please just ban all Canadians?
>>72185645
>he is mentally unfit for office.
You're several months too late for that observation
>>72194397
anecdotal MUH coal? Ask your boss why he prefers hiring Mexicans over Americans.
Your boss isn't Donald Trump by any chance?
Trump's Mar-a-Lago hires hundreds of foreign workers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html
>>72192257
I already explained to you that natural gas killed coal.
>>72194588
>America is heading for a greater than the great recession.
Do you know when?
Or is this another one of those end of the world prophecies right wingers keep telling me about?
>>72194880
>Clinton News Network
>>72194706
Every thread is an example, just like this one.
Do you want me to re post this post, just to make you happy?>>72193676
You've been proven wrong in every one of them, just like tonight.
Plus you lie like a crack head in every one of them.
>I haven't made this thread in several days
Is your favorite lie.
Facts prove you wrong, on multiple angles.
>>72194588
Well yea Obama created tons of jobs but poverty is still about the same rate and he had to do it by dumping billions of dollars into bailing out businesses. We are in a global expansion right now and poverty is only slightly lower, the debt doubled and then some under Obama, the housing market is destroyed, income inequality is higher than ever, and real gdp growth has been lower on average than under W. How can anyone think that Obama was a good president?
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>>72192257
what is worse
being paid for pic related?
or doing it for free?
>>72194577
Wait what the heck? I just told you that U6 is 9.8% and you think that idiot is onto something because through his various calculations he arrived at
>that’s a nearly 10% underemployment rate on top of the official 5.6%
Official is down to 5% btw. He's using old data again.
But yeah I just told you that U6 is down to 9.8%. That's the under-employment rate.
So why would you think I was ignoring him when I clearly missed that post and just read it now. Why did you think he stumbled onto something when I just said U6 is 9.8% and I gave you the chart.
>>72185269
in the Age of the Internet vox populi = perception = reality
>the U.S. in a nutshell
>>72195155
Being this autistic is close to being as bad
>>72194961
>a source that I don't like reported on something therefore it must not be true.
This is actually how right wing retards think.
Exclusive: Trump’s Use Of Foreign Workers In Florida Questioned
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/09/22/exclusive-trumps-use-of-foreign-workers-in-florida-questioned/
>>72194941
>Do you know when?
It's already in a recession.
Almost all economic numbers are terrible as they've ever been, only comparable to other recessions.
Only number the media and Obama is focusing is job creation, which is easily explained by the growing number of part time job and loss of full time jobs.
You're gonna hear it "officially" admitted in MSM a month or two after the presidential election
>>72193591
Well figure this, about 1/4 of all Americans are children under 18. They don't count as unemployed, people retired also don't count- unless they changed that, so let say another 1/4 of all Americans. That leaves 1/2, so it is very unlikely 42% or 1/4 of ALL Americans are with out jobs. But consider this we have to still factor seasonal unemployment, cyclical unemployment, and everyone else. I guess my point is this it would be very unlikely to have 42% unemployment WHEN HAlF THE PEOPLE IN THE FUCKING WORK FORCE ALREADY WORK FOR TO GOVERNMENT! No more and no less than 25% OR AN 1/8 of all Americans, so probably 10-15% is reasonable, but the problem is the command and chief counts part time jobs as full time! So everyone is wrong! Fuck it, let's all give up!
>>72195174
so obama cant keep the underemployed rate down
I knew he was a failure
btfo = you
>>72195155
Holy shit! Nice! How long did it take you to compile all that? Be honest!
Is there a trick to replying to all my posts or do you actually have to click 1 by 1?
>>72195249
What's even sadder is that even after all those posts, right wing retards still think the unemployment rate is 42%.
>>72195249
>2 "save files as png"
>click "reply to all of this id"
the fact that you thought I did all that work
is autistic
>>72194314
>NEVER DRESSED RIGHT
For what? the current weather? They win if you randomly get fucked by rain when it was hot in the morning.
>>72194880
Not my boss, a contract between a gas company and a mineral rights owner for a lease.
It is because it is cheaper to import legal Mexicans.
I don't care if it is muh coal, coal is still used, and removing a major job provider then counteracting my arguments by attacking what the actual job is about is not an argument. His policies removed coal jobs and he expected everything to be okay. It isnt.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000001000000001?data_tool=XGtable
Manufacturing has failed to recover aswell.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000003000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the information industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000005000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the trade industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000004000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the construction industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000002000000001?data_tool=XGtable
The labor force has been forced to move out, and still there are plenty of people without jobs.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST540000000000006?data_tool=XGtable
These were all vital to the West Virginian economy.
>>72195380
btfo=you
>>72195324
So which quarters is the US going to be in recession? It's already you say. So you're saying the recession starts in Q2 2016? Interesting. We've only had April so far and we're not even done with April. I'm impressed you already have enough economic data (zero) to corroborate a recession.
>>72195295
What about this?
>>72186289
>money printing
>federal debt
oh, I see what you're trying to say there.
You're just a cuck, the perfect stereotype of the perfect 90%shit 10%Burgers American.
>>72195499
Not even that guy, what plugin has reply to all of this id?
>>72185269
>74 posts
How's being a pedantic attention whore going?
>>72195618
How about this?
>>72195374
He cut it by nearly half. It was 17.5%. Do you even know how to read charts?
>>72195696
And this?
>>72195602
Are you trying to deflect from how long it took you to compile all those threads of mine?
anyone who sees my post
/pol/ has actual power. don't ask how but it does
people are really upset they do not have this power
people pay people to relentlessly campaign here to someday have some of the power
our only defense is homegrown organic memes. thats probably where all the power comes from
So glad Obama kept all those full time jobs as part time jobs. Since they stay part time instead of returning to full time; shills can keep saying Obama doesn't create part time jobs.
>>72195715
wow can't even get it below 5%
losersville usa
>>72195618
>prices not adjusted for inflation.
Again, why do Trumptards want so badly for the US economy to fail?
Do you really hate Obama that much?
>>72195669
Lol these faggots cry if I don't reply to one of their posts. I'm not kidding. They legit cry.
>>72195696
Welfare spending going up since the 1950's? THANKS OBAMA!
>>72195964
adjusted for inflation nobody has had a pay raise since 1970
Obama is just as shit as everyone before him.
>>72196002
Why are you so mad tho leaf? You don't live here. He's a bad president. Get over it.
>>72195809
Republican 9/11 hero George W.Bush crashes the US economy in the worst crisis since the Republican Great Depression.
THANKS OBAMA!
>>72195935
U6 is actually way down under Obama. Where did you get this rigged chart from?
>>72195155
Jesus H Christ you fucking leaf/ves
Go back to fucking ________ (India/China/Kenya)
>>72196185
>He thinks our greatest ally didn't do it
>>72195959
When was the last time U6 was under 5%?
Protip: NEVER
See what retards you morons are.
>>72195155
Doin' the lords work son. I thought he was bad having seen about 25 of those but there's another 25 I missed.
>>72185269
Trump would actually cause the greatest increase in economic performance out of any of the candidates the issue is that he will bankrupt the country doing it almost all government services would need to be shut down even the military
>>72196176
Since 1980 actually. I wonder why...
>>72196002
mate its because we want a response, otherwise it looks like you avoid actual arguments against you. Your argument against the shutting down of coal mines is that Coal is bad. So? The question at hand is about Jobs, and shutting down coal mines does a toll on employment.
>>72196305
Bush kept us safe. You obviously weren't even born yet but that's exactly what conservatives were saying during the 8 years of the mos recent disastrous Republican presidency.
>>72196315
How long do you think it took him to compile all those threads together?
>>72195964
What about the credit score dropping and more Americans being in debt now than ever?
>>72196107
That spike is gigantic. WTF are you serious?
>>72196185
I'm not a fan of W either but how long can you blame him for all of Obama's failures? It's pretty bad if the whole planet is in an expansion and our wages are dropping.
>>72196185
lol at the amount of shitposting in this thread by pierre
>>72196459
>Bush did 9/11 meme
We all know who really did 9/11 at this point
>>72195598
>completely ignores my argument with sources and legitimate reasons.
>>72196411
Obama isn't shutting down coal mines. The free market is. The corporations are declaring bankruptcy. That's how it goes.
I'm all in favor of you faggots get government funded retraining to start putting up wind turbines or solar panels. But it's your fellow conservatives that tell you to fuck off and pick yourself up by your bootstraps. Oh and when you come down with lung cancer, the Republican healthcare plan is to die quickly.
>>72185269
Gotta love me some McDonalds jobs. Thanks Obama!
>>72196599
Bush kept us safe. What part aren't you getting? Bush kept us safe. He was an American hero on 9/11 and saved the lives of thousands of Americans.
Republicans can be trusted with national security. Pic related.
>>72196599
Bush helped
>>72185269
He never said the rate was that high, he was talking about overall unemployment, not just the rate of employed people who are losing their jobs which hides a lot of the numbers of long term unemployed and NEETS.
>>72196641
>I have 91 posts in this thread
Do you actually expect me to be able to reply to every single one?
I know you guys consider me a genius and a savant, I get that you come to me for information and enlightenment.
But have you ever considered that if you throw new information at me that I haven't seen before, like
Manufacturing has failed to recover aswell.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000003000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the information industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000005000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the trade industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000004000000001?data_tool=XGtable
So has the construction industry:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS54000002000000001?data_tool=XGtable
Then perhaps it will take time for me to evaluate this information.
Have you considered that?
I already told you that Obama's policies didn't kill coal.
Why don't you get that?
I gave you the information
Coal can't compete with natural gas playa.
The free market killed coal.
>While the Environmental Protection Agency’s smokestack emissions standards certainly aren’t helpful for coal, the rules have been around in some form for decades, and the first federal regulation to permanently cap and reduce coal plants’ mercury emissions was issued in 2005, during the George W. Bush administration.
Five myths about coal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-coal/2015/08/07/9aac05f2-3bd0-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html
>>72192257
>>72196778
We don't even like Bush here. He doubled the size of the government and let in tons of Mexicans. If you're only argument is well he was better than Bush I gotta wonder if you even know where you are.
>>72196670
> praises the free market in the first point
> attacks the free market in the next point
If wind turbines are productive, they will go up without government funding.
If they need government funding to go up, they are unproductive but you will come back saying "look at the jobs that Obama created in the wind turbine industry!" "A job creator!"
>>72196681
Don't talk about jobs you're not qualified for, Trumptard.
>>72186289
>Print more money
>OMG the federal debt has risen in numbers!
Can't imagine why that would be...
>>72197088
What's false about his statement? If median incomes are down, poverty is high, and debt has increased wouldn't that mean that most of these jobs created were low paying?
>>72197033
You all loved him at the time though. Well then again you probably weren't born yet.
It's funny how in hindsight Republican presidents are always a disaster.
Hence the title of this thread
When Trump crashes the US economy (which conservatives want), it'll be Obama's fault right?
>>72196261
Still worse than the pre-recession levels. But posting a longer timeline would make you look bad so you won't.
>>72197185
I don't think so. I think most of us have always hated globalists.
>>72197070
Thank god we didn't listen to conservatives, otherwise we never would have had the internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology
Sometimes it takes government funding to get new industries off the ground.
That's the thing you retards have been programmed not to understand.
Coal is not one of those industries btw.
>>72197185
>You all loved him at the time though
Source?
>>72185476
did you actually read the politifact article? the REAL unemployment rate according to the fed gov is around 10.5%. It doesn't take into account some specific things, but even if you add all of those people in the number barely breaks 15%.
So either way hes not even close.
>>72196670
no, EPA regulations have shut down coal plants, making coal mines unsustainable. Your claim is that Obama has been improving the US across the boards. He hasn't in West Virginia, mainly just across the state line where i live. The unemployment rate is still recovering around 10%. I personally view the shutting down of the mines as a good thing, as in the long run it will bring another economic base, HOWEVER the Government should have expected this increase and should have introduced looser EPA regulations then slowly tighten them, allowing communities to slowly integrate newer economic bases.
Use this, http://data.bls.gov/map/MapToolServlet
Use counties, then West Virginia, then unemployment of 2016.
>>72197274
> Sometimes it takes government funding to get new industries off the ground.
No, it just priorities things over others, and when government invests in a particular industry, it naturally lowers private investment in that industry.
Enjoy your bubbles and your "jobs".
>>72197209
My timeline is during Obama's presidency. I agree with you that Republicans crash the economy and Democrats fix it, I'm not sure how that's a credible attack on Obama. All you did was make a point for NOT voting Republican. That's my argument.
>>72195155
haha what an autistic retard
>>72197280
I'm talking about conservatives. You do know Bush was a Republican president right?
>>72197436
>no, EPA regulations have shut down coal plants, making coal mines unsustainable.
Jesus christ.
You didn't even read the article. Holy shit. This is why I can't take Trumptards seriously.
>
READ
While the Environmental Protection Agency’s smokestack emissions standards certainly aren’t helpful for coal, the rules have been around in some form for decades, and the first federal regulation to permanently cap and reduce coal plants’ mercury emissions was issued in 2005, during the George W. Bush administration.
Five myths about coal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-coal/2015/08/07/9aac05f2-3bd0-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html
>>72197493
You're talking about the guy who took the time to make that chart of all my posts?
>>72197531
The anon was clearly referring to /pol/>>72197033 he uses the word "here" unless you believe /pol/ is all conservatives in America
You do know you're retarded, right?
>>72197694
The fact of the matter is you brain dead zombies will support whoever the Republicans tell you to support.
This was you morons in 2012.
Your collective hatred for the United States and desperation for wanting the US economy to fail is what truly unites you all to vote Republican.
>>72197024
Yes, and all of those are economic bases of West Virginia and SE Ohio. He promised to revitalize manufacturing, yet has failed to do so in West Virginia, its one of the reasons i voted for him in 2008. You look at the data of the nation, yet ignore the local areas who have yet to recover.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/02/13/plan-revitalize-american-manufacturing
>>72197691
You say that but you took the time to make all those posts and answer this >>72197181
>>72197651
>implying i support trump
I supported Rand Paul, i only really come here for /sg/ and the bants.
>>72197827
>The fact of the matter is you brain dead zombies will support whoever the Republicans tell you to support.
Yes, clearly we're all backing Cruz and before we were backing Jeb. You remember all the Jeb Generals, right?
Also nice deflection after i made you look like the simpleton you are.
>>72197848
Oh I don't deny that certain places are hurting. I'm not claiming every single little part of America is doing fantastic. There have always been boom and bust towns. This isn't anything new. You thought this is something new to Obama? Sometimes you just have to move. Why stick around in an economic deadzone? Move to Colorado. It has 2.9% unemployment right now. Fantastic blue state. Get the hell out of WV. What a terrible red state to live in.
>>72197976
There was one very dedicated anon constantly making Jeb threads.
>>72197976
No deflection. Read those quotes. It will be even more glorious this time around.
>>72197898
See what I mean. You bitch that I respond to too many posts but then if I miss ONE, just ONE, you're on it like retards at a Tea Party rally.
>>72198069
Most people here were supporting Ron Paul. Some may have seen Romney as the lesser evil of two evils but he was no one's ideal candidate like you're making him out to be.
>>72198119
Because you don't have an answer to it.
>>72197181
First of all you idiots continue ignoring that Obama inherited the worst economic disaster since the Republican Great Depression from 8 years of Republican rule.
Let's not forget, Clinton left Bush one of the best economies in American history. 3.9% unemployment, a thriving economy, a $315 BILLION annual budget surplus, the national debt set to be paid off within 10 years, the highest labor participation rate in American history, and no wars.
Within 8 years, George Bush and the Republicans left America on its knees.
This is why Republicans can't be trusted with the economy. No matter how good a situation they inherit, they'll fuck it all up and blame Democrats.
Oh and by the way, 95% of Obama job creation has been full time.
>>72198185
I just did. Idiot.
I didn't say everything was perfectly perfect.
You guys hate America and desperately want the US economy to fail so you'll find something to nitpick about. Even when you have to make up stats to lie about your own country, like that the unemployment rate is 42% or that 93 million americans are unemployed.
>>72198224
I didn't argue that they weren't full time and if Obama was so great how come median income is lower now than before he started? How come there's more people in debt now than before he started? And what about the housing market? Do you think Clinton had nothing to do with that or the recession in general?
>>72198015
Many of us hold farmland and have animals we tend to after work. Most of us don't like the cities either. They are too cluttered and confusing, and are stressful compared to living here.
>>72198224
And you're right about Republicans sucking and I'm right about Democrats sucking. We need Trump.
>>72198015
also regarding moving out, yes people have moved out. Most of those 30,000 are from around where i live.(the decrease in labor pool)
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST540000000000006?data_tool=XGtable
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