Non-degenerate Drugs
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What are the drugs that are not considered degenerate? (including stuff like caffeine and alcohol)
Also expecting justifications as to why something is or isn't degenerate. Not just:
>muh communist hippies
>MPA
>shrooms
>LSD
>1P-LSD
>high quality cocaine
>>69256533
caffeine and disco shit
there are no degenrate drugs, just degenrate people, if you're a retard, you're going to be a retard when high on anything, no retard has ever become respected human being while high
>being this insecure about what you want to use
News at 11: ur a fagot
>>69256533
Its all degenerate.
>>69256721
exactly. i've enjoyed everything from weed to heroin from the comfort and safety of my own home. everything i buy is of the highest quality and taken in moderation with good harm-reduction procedures.
>>69256721
This guy has it right.
Degeneracy is code for "shit I don't like"
>>69256533
Crystal meth is the only non-degenerate drug I can think of.
>>69256754
I'm not bothered either way. I'm just interested what /pol/ thinks.
Ethylphenidate and mephedrone were degenerate for sure
>>69256533
sorry faggot if you don't do drugs you've probably had a really lame, basic life filled with run-in-the mill experiences.
Modernity is so bleak and boring. At some point alcohol becomes a really generic intoxicant. Do acid or shrooms or something. Smoke marijuana from time to time. You don't need to be a dread-headed impotent liberal faggot to partake in drug culture.
Girls use drugs as a smokescreen to act like a complete whore and then use the drugs as plausibly deniability. If you roll with chicks they turn into complete slutbags.
Don't act like you don't want to take advantage of a bunch of whores on drugs.
Stop being a faggot. You know you want to do drugs and fuck degenerate whores desperate for validation.
I'm thinking of trying LSA. Degenerate or not?
>>69257431
I never said I didn't do any. I've smoked weed a number of times and I would do it more often if I could find a dealer. I'm also up for trying other things. I was just curious what /pol/ thought.
>>69256533
Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine are non-degenerate in moderation.
I'd argue marijuana can be non-degenerate in moderation as well and a useful tool for introspection, but the culture that has grown around it and its general association with liberal decadence has made it degenerate by association.
Shrooms and weed
If it's manmade it's degenerate
Stimulants are the only non degenerate drug
If the drug isn't increasing your mental abilities, it is a waste of time
Better yet, what are the best nootropics
>>69257826
What about psychedelics?
>>69257902
What did I just say?
Psychedelics are a weak mans meditation, purely degenerate
>>69256825
desu you need to be hanged
pure untermensch behavior
>>69257721
M'lady
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>>69257963
But what if psychedelics cure you of degenerate habits?
I'm no longer an atheist because of mushrooms.
>>69257963
They increase mental ability though.
>>69257634
Going through dealers is sketchy as hell.
In the rare occasion (e.g., once every five years) that actually I buy, I pay trusted friends to buy from their own dealers and let them have part of it. Not about to form relationships just for the purpose of obtaining drugs, when I'm more than content just taking a hit at parties once or twice a year.
>>69258327
I've also heard of people who have completely quit smoking after trying LSA.
Nicotine, Valium, Vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy, and alcohol. C-c-c-c-c-cocaiiinnneee.
Alcohol and Weed are both degenerate, even if they are legal
>>69258392
That's basically what I was referring to. When I say a dealer, what I mean is a m8 who has a dealer. Last year I went to college with a guy who had loads of contacts and we'd do it together nearly every week but nobody I know at college this year does it (doing a different course at a different college now) and I can't get it any more.
>>69256721
Yea man totally
Heroin and PCP are cool it's just all those idiots using it that ruin it for the rest of us
God you people are stupid
>>69258782
What's wrong with heroin that is not wrong with morphine, then?
>>69256533
Piracetam is a multifunctional nootropic that helps bridge axons and shit. It improves cognition and enhances your short-term memory. It is most definitely not degenerate because it is completely legal to buy anywhere and has no intoxication effects (you can't get high off that shit)
>>69258327
I hope you're joking but deep down I know you aren't
I bet you and Joe rogan would get along
>>69256533
Datura
>>69256533
All drugs are degenerate.
>>69257431
>sorry faggot if you don't do drugs you've probably had a really lame, basic life filled with run-in-the mill experiences.
Wrong, it's the other way around.
There is no surer way of shutting your eyes, ears and heart than to wander in the fog of your own brain, to find nothing and to succumb to more and more nihilism and dysfunction. And for what? In the end, you're there and you're mildly brain-damaged, of poor health, rail thin like a faggot with AIDS and all alone.
Fuck that.
>>69258327
>>69258423
You know how else you can quit bad habits? By not being a weak-willed degenerate and cultivating a disciplined and principled nature.
>>69256533
>Non-degenerate Drugs
Stimulants and hallucinogens. Perhaps DUDEWEED in moderation under proper circumstances (it's a good social drug, relieves stress)
The rest are literally degenerate in that they damage your mind and body. Both acutely and cumulatively. Fuck alcohol, fuck opiates, fuck barbiturates, etc etc
>>69257826
> today i learned canadians can be tweakers just like americans
>>69258782
So it's impossible to use heroin without committing even more crimes?
>>69258959
>not FDA approved
I'll just stick to caffeine, k thx
Modafinil makes you get shit done.
>inb4 tips fedora
>>69256533
If you use a drug for a useful purpose than its not degenerate
If you become reliant on the drug to do things you didn't used to need it for then its degenerate
Keep in mind the word has actual meaning, not "anything I don't like"
>>69256533
Heroin is a painkiller you can make at home.
Cocaine is fine in moderation.
LSD is worth trying in the right setting.
Shrooms are very difficult to abuse even if you wanted to.
Marijuana is relaxing.
Alcohol is delicious and your body evolved to consume it (unless you're American Indian)
Caffeine addiction is like the herpes of addiction (it's utterly inconsequential)
Steroids can be used to make you strong and gigantic, and with proper supervision the side effects are manageable or even avoidable.
Do drugs, drugs are great.
Nobility is not about being better than others or comparing yourself to others to make yourself feel better. Nobility is about becoming a better man and maturing. If particular drugs aid you in this endeavor than no honest man should decry those substances with such a petty label as "degenerate".
>>69256533
Hormones
>>69256533
Pretty much Caffeine. But I don't know ways to get it without coffee or energy drinks which I'm trying to avoid
>>69256533
Drug master here, most drugs are degenerate, especially when used day after day.
I think using shrooms maybe less than one time a year could be considered non- degenerate.
Also using MDMA on very rare occasion is not degenerate, not monthly, not using it 2 days in a row, using it for one event, like a show, or something, same like shrooms.
Nicotene is degenerate, it is so addictive, it changes your emotions, it is bad.
Same with alcohol its very addictive, when you are a drinker, for most people, you end up drinking just a little bit more, and a little more frequently, and if you can stop yourself early, thats great, but alot of people cant and end up drinking too much
Weed, is degenerate, its the drug of hippies and losers, the baseline of life for so many youths these days is being high on weed all the time, they are never sober. Imagine years of your life high, and even after it wears off, there is this fog, i know of people who quit all out, and after a year they said they finally felt normal. Weed also numbs you to feelings, making it so you dont have to deal with them, this leads to you having the mind of a child as you grow up. I think smoking on 4/20 is ok, but i'd rather sieg heil.
I see some people arguing that adderal or other stims are not degenerate, if so, then why are so many children given these drugs to 'treat' "ADHD" as kids. they are super degenerate, they cause daily use, and last almost all day, so again imagine living whole days on a drug, its a waste of life
Opiates, being so addictive, often lead to a degenerate life, I think they should not be used but by a professional on rare occasions.
>>69257431
Personally I don't give a shit if someone wants to do drugs, it's your health and livelihood to destroy if you really want to that badly. What seriously annoys me is this kind of evangelical drug user who not only uses drugs, but thinks that anyone who doesn't use drugs is a pathetic loser and is constantly trying to force drug use on people who aren't interested.
I went through a period where I smoked weed shortly after I graduated high school, and for a while I drank heavily to the point of becoming a borderline alcoholic. Neither path is something I'd recommend. I stopped drinking entirely, and my life's gotten significantly better since then.
As to pot, I lived in Colorado for a couple of months after they legalized it there, so just for fun I bought a bag and smoked it. All it did was remind me why I quit doing that shit when I was 19. It gave me really bad anxiety for like the first 30 minutes, followed by about 3 hours of mind numbing depression. I'll pass on doing it again. As to addictive drugs like cocaine and opiates, I don't even see the appeal. And if I died today without ever having experienced whatever magical bullshit you're supposed to experience when you do shrooms or acid or peyote or whatever, I can't say I'd have any particular regrets about it.
That whole image of drugs being some kind of gateway to a crazy world of sex and partying is a meme too; 90% of drug use is just a couple of pathetic faggots alone in a shitty apartment with the blinds drawn, shooting or smoking or whatever they're doing, eating junk food and watching TV. I've been acquainted with enough drug users to know.
Whatever you want to do for recreation is your own business, but don't act like it makes you superior to people who have better uses for their time and money.
>>69260098
I'm looking at trying some legal ones. Namely LSA and salvia. Opinion on those?
>>69261163
Tea
>>69257431
>You know you want to do drugs and fuck degenerate whores desperate for validation.
You are no better than those degenerate sluts if you do this.
>>69257826
Do you really feel that stimulants increase your mental ability? Not baiting, genuinely curious. Never had a good experience with caffeine or nicotine, but there are some pretty accomplished mathematicians (both in history and some I personally know) who swear by amphetamines (which I haven't tried).
>>69258327
If they really cure you of degenerate habits, then they are good not in and of themselves but solely for their utility in accomplishing that which you could not accomplish by your own will and mind.
Kind of like what this person is saying: >>69260240
>>69260953
This is an interesting one. I'm inclined to agree, since test seems to be in short supply in men now days (due to food/environment factors). But don't roids mess with your mind to some degree? I've heard of people having lots of emotional instability after a cycle (maybe due to improper PCT, but still, it's a risk).
>>69261594
Salvia isn't worth it. Dangerous and a let down.
>>69257431
Why not face modernity with some dignity instead?
>>69261933
Dangerous how? I've heard people have done crazy stuff on large doses but is there anything inherently dangerous about it on small doses?
>>69261594
Make sure you prepare the LSA properly so you're not shitting a bunch, i love lsa haven't done it in a while, its pretty mild but that makes it better, its not overwhelming
Salvia is also cool, put on some good music and smoke it with weed and a friend, get a few different strengths, 60x to trip out, 20x to chill kinda freaky
>>69257874
caffeine, l-tyrosine and creatine have all worked wonders for me, but then again I don't even know if they really count as "real" nootropics
>>69261581
>That whole image of drugs being some kind of gateway to a crazy world of sex and partying is a meme too; 90% of drug use is just a couple of pathetic faggots alone in a shitty apartment with the blinds drawn
I'm very pro-drug and this is the sad truth. People need to go outside and do drugs in nature.
>>69261594
>LSA and salvia
Never done either. Everything I've heard about salvia is to stay away, actually. In moderation it's probably fine, though.
Can't you go mushroom hunting in the UK?
>>69261507
Is it impressive to anyone else that you can tell what drugs a person uses based on their opinions on different kinds of drugs?
>>69261594
>Namely LSA and salvia. Opinion on those?
What is your motivation for doing said drugs? They are relatively low risk, and if used with respect and introverted goals (i.e., not to see cool shit or party), I think they may help focus your introspection. A vastly superior alternative is to start changing your life habits and becoming more disciplined, coupled with a routine of self-study in any subject (ideally ancient philosophy).
>>69261507
>>69261581
Your experiences with pot need to be shared more widely, thank you for typing them out. It's about time the mystique and mythic status of this shitty drug are exposed. I understand the pendulum swinging to the excess side after DARE propaganda and stuff, but the degree to which it's hailed/shilled as a totally harmless wonder drug now days is really unacceptable.
>>69262168
I've ordered X10. I can't get any weed (one of the reasons I'm looking at legal stuff), mainly because I don't have any friends who are interested in this sort of stuff anymore so that's out the window too.
If you use any form of recreational drug that's not alcohol or caffeine then you're a degenerate. Weed included.
>>69262357
>I don't have any friends who are interested in this sort of stuff anymore
Quit while you're ahead. That's actually a blessing, not a curse, as you seem to be interpreting it.
What are your current group of friends interested in? Start hanging out with the ones with the least degenerate hobbies (i.e., those who don't drink/party) and your mind will slowly stop subscribing to the meme that drugs are fun/non-degenerate.
>>69262258
Wouldn't know what to look for or what to do with it. One of my mates also told me there's an identical looking mushroom which is deadly so probably best not to mess around.
>>69262324
Mainly because I can't get pot but also cause I'm interested in experimenting with psychedelics and those are easy to get online.
>>69256533
Objectively speaking, a drug can't be degenerate. Drugs simply have an affect on an organism, whether psychoactive or not. In terms of pharmacology and medicine though you have what's called a 'risk-benefit analysis'. The same approach should be used whether using a substance medicinally or recreationally.
In terms of toxicity, the dose always makes the poison when it comes to anything. For acute toxicity and general risk when taking any substance, you would be looking at the active threshold dose relative to the LD50.
Obviously long-term effects are different and there are many variables, however generally speaking the majority of psychedelics and marijuana are among some of the safest drugs that people use recreationally.
>>69262559
I have all sorts of friends that change every year depending on what I'm doing. Last year I had a good mate that I used to smoke pot with and we were gonna do a bunch of other stuff too but never got round to it. I haven't seen him since I started a new college though and now I don't know anyone who's interested in it.
>>69262283
Do you think you can tell what drugs I use?
I have used pretty much all drugs in my life, I have since quit doing all of them besides nicotene in a blu-ecig vape
quitting that now, along with porn and jerking off, getting /fit/ trying to become non-degenerate
>>69262357
x10 will work, get a bong type device to smoke it, use a low dose at first, you will feel weird, but it will say to you "there is something magical and weird going on here"
Dont be scared, you will be, but dont worry about it, its always weird to try a new drug
make sure no one is home, and you have a nice couch to sit on, its short acting, and i would reccomend skipping days between uses, maybe grab a few beers for afterwards so that you dont feel like now its over and the rest of the day is boring.
put ice in the bong
>>69261507
>nicotine
>addictive
Bitch please I used to chronically vape 24 mg nicotine juice (average cigarette has 15 mg) for 5 months then decided to stop and did the next day, didn't feel a thing.
>>69262600
I live in the place on earth with the fewest naturally occurring psychedelics, so I'm not really an expert. There's probably a field test, though. You can learn about it online, there are a lot of resources.
>>69262941
I can relate to this. Making friends as an adult is weird, I get more nervous asking for dudes numbers than girls, kek. Don't do drugs alone, m8. It's just not worth it.
>>69263279
tobaco is more addictive than vaped nicotine, thats what i meant, but it still is addictive, especially when its all you have as a drug, so quitting means going sober
Love how people are quick to label weed degenerate but there reason for not liking it is always there feeble mind not being able to handle it.
>>69263210
I don't own a bong but I have a small wooden pipe. Would that work too? I've only got one mesh left though and it's a bit old and stained from weed uses.
I was planning to do it in the evening on my bed after my parents were asleep. I don't really get much time at home alone.
>>69261594
1P-LSD is legal.
Avoid Salvia -- no one ever enjoys the experience.
>>69263357
It's not that I can't make friends easily. It's just none of the guys I know on my current course are interested in doing drugs. I can't even get any pot from them.
Do you mean to say 'don't do new drugs alone'? I've done weed on my own loads of times before and I enjoyed the experience way more than when I did it socially.
No drugs are degenerate but the majority are equipped to control their drug use and end up controlled by it.
I used to be addicted to cocain and smoke weed every day. When I realised I was putting coke before my family I stopped imediately, 3 days of hell then the slow realisation I can beat it done like 2 lines of it in the last 10 years. Weed became habitual too, when I realised my mind was becoming messy I stopped entirely for a year, then some traumatic events left me grasping for escapism and I went back into it full on. I was in an on off relationship with this drug.
Now I have ground rules.
I am not allowed to smoke it until I've done my domestic chores and I only smoke it on weekend evenings.
I've turned weed from a barrier to productivity into a reward for productivity.
At the end of a weeks work I go home, do a bit of housework then get stoned knowing there's nothing I should be worried about.
You think being stoned all the time is fun?
Try being stoned when you know everything else about you is right.
>>69263436
How is it more addictive?
>>69257721
That's extremely bad misinformation to spread. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking natural = good. Snake venom is natural. So uranium. You get the point. The dose makes the poison.
>>69257874
General and clinical research on a lot of nootropics is still extremely lacking. A lot of supplement companies seem to be trying to cash in on these by making false, unproven claims about them. I'm not saying they will or won't work, but it's something to keep in mind. Keep in mind also, there's generally no free lunch when it comes to these 'cognitive enhancers'. A lot of them are just wake-promoting agents so you actually end up feeling overly stimulated and disrupting your sleeping pattern when we know sleep is one of the most important things for cognitive function.
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-pied-piper-of-nootropics/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhx_zAauays
^ There's some talk about nootropics in this, amongst a nice amount of other info about a range of drugs. I recommend listening to the whole thing to be honest.
>>69262357
Be vary careful with Salvia. Experiment if you wish of course, however don't underestimate it. It's very powerful in terms of subjective experience, comparable to DMT. I would recommend having a sober sitter with you for the first time and wouldn't go higher than a x10 extract.
>>69256533
Alcohol is degenerate.
>>69263661
Where can you get that from and what are the risks?
>>69258619
First 2 letters of your current postcode?
I'd fucking love to get stoned with a polack.
>>69263514
Try scraping some resin out of the wooden pipe, the weed makes the afterglow better, I would maybe wait until they were gone, but how old are you, you sound like a younger me, doing drugs at night in my bedroom while my parents were alseep, buying legal drugs online
>>69263945
RC vendors like buckledbonzi, chemicalwire, SSD, and so on.
Risks are identical to LSD.
>>69259253
Yes it literally is
Heroin is not something to fuck with
>>69263707
I've never had problems with weed (aside from trying to get it). I've always been aware that I can't be productive when I use it so I make sure not to use it when i know I have coursework to do in the next few days.
>>69263514
and yea it will work, but dont cough, hold the smoke in for as long as you can, and then longer, a bong is better, you can make a ghetto bong with a 2 liter waterbottle and some materials, using ur wooden pipe as the bowl
>>69258782
I hope that you don't get any painkillers or sedatives whatsoever if you ever end up in a hospital.
>>69264235
No one commits a bunch of crimes when they're given it for two weeks in hospital.
>>69263702
Doing new psychedelics alone is just not a good idea. If you're a pro I guess it may not be bad, but it will probably scare the shit out of you. The drugs you're talking about aren't anything to scoff at. Weed is probably the only drug I do alone, other than having a beer with dinner or coffee.
>>69263945
As far as I'm aware it's still legal in the UK currently so you can literally Google for research chemical websites and you can purchase it (Not for human consumption). It's a structual analogue of LSD. Anecdotally, it's supposedly extremely similar to LSD. In terms of harm, it's very hard to say. It seems to be similar to LSD however keep in mind there is literally no research done on this so you are a guinea pig. The biggest harm aside from acute toxicity when it comes to RC's is any potentially unknown long-term effects.
>>69263782
No can do on the sitter unfortunately. I'll just have to be careful and start with a small dose. I've seen some recommendations for half a bowl but is that too much?
>>69264404
Doing salvia alone is fine, doing shrooms alone is how you get found by someone naked in the snow wearing only one boot :)
>>69264032
N8 for my father's house who I stay with when I'm at college. SG for my mother's house who I stay with on breaks.
>>69264605
Moderation seems to be a lost art, then.
All drugs are degenerate. Period.
Reason: all of them are toxins and only serve the purpose of easing or lifting the pain of existence for a temporary moment. Which means you were not hard enough to stand life and looked for escapism. (posted on 4chan)
And the "extend your consciousness with drugs" is just that: a meme. In practice it is vomiting over the toilet seat and feeling like you are going to die. And anything positive can be achieved by meditation.
>>69264110
21. Hoping to go to uni next year. I spent years of my life from when I was 16 to 19 not knowing what to do with my life so it took me a while to get my focus on track.
drug power rankings:
>1. Psychedelics (LSD/LSA/Peyote/Psilocybin/MPA)
>2. Cannabis/MDMA
>3. Opiates (weak-willed addicts need not apply)
>4. Dissociatives (K, DXM)
>5. Stimulants (Caffiene, Cocaine etc)
Weed in moderation and at low doses is based. The really strong stuff is for degenerates.
>>69264199
Not done LSD before so not familiar with the risks. One of my mates said you can't OD but I'm guessing there's other stuff.
>>69264404
I'm planning to try LSA first. Alone is literally the only option for me atm.
>>69264605
Lol. Like I said, I've never done salvia, so I could be overly careful.
>>69264389
This. Heroin is a painkiller. If you use it and aren't in pain, you're playing a dangerous game. Also, if the earth had no painkillers nobody would call that an improvement.
>>69264443
I might stick with LSA for now until it's been tested by a few more people.
>>69264861
How is doing shrooms any different from going to see a movie? neither ease any pain. Its just an interesting experience. For fun. Thats all there is to life, experiences. Then blackness forever.
>>69264974
I know at least 2 people that killed themselves after doing lsd(within 3 days but not while actually high on it) and another 2 that were sectioned. And another 2 dozen that are fine.
KT postcode here. I'd get stoned with you anon. No queer shit or experimental drugs at mine, just some weed.
>pol
>A bunch of delusional junkies
pretty much what i expect t b h (to be honest)
>>69265183
>playing a dangerous game
Yes, if you lack self-discipline. But the person who lacks self discipline and develops a heroin addiction is possibly better off than the person who develops and alcohol addiction, whose withdrawal effects (and side effects with extended use) are life-threatening. And if it weren't one drug, it'd be the other by nature of the person.
>>69265273
As far as I've heard, LSA is shite that causes stomach upset and, a bit of a delirious feeling, and not much else.
>>69264879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-QaNzd-0Y
i spent years of my life on drugs, and im still pretty lost in life, i am a shaman of sorts, i have introduced many people to many drugs, making alot of people feel things they have never before, I truely hope you get something from your use, salvia is pretty good, it tickles the strange area.
it says something like "this is not an accident," or "something is going on" it has religious flavors to it, i would reccomend praying before partaking in it, you can't really go wrong with a prayer to god, through my whole life of being an asshole, becoming a satanist, and sinning while grinning, he has never left me. What you think of as drugs are much more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUI5uLysKaE
>>69264445
Definitely go easy on it then. Salvia is a dissociative and you will basically enter a completely different state of consciousness if you breakthrough meaning you have any sense of self or normal perception of external objective reality. The biggest issue really is potentially falling over or setting something on fire after smoking it, or even walking/running around whilst actually tripping. I'd be in a position where you can fall back comfortably without doing any harm, but honestly would recommend a sober sitter if possible just in case. Read up online for dosages, always use scales to measure.
>>69264974
Standard psychedelic risks really. Mind set and setting. Read up on trip reports, know what you're getting yourself into. It lasts quite a long time, make sure nobody has any expectations of you for the time you will be tripping. Completely free up your schedule. Make sure you have everything sorted beforehand. Any food, drinks, a music playlist. Generally I wouldn't recommend tripping with many people, only a few trusted close friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxe9B1HEkus
This guy summarises it all quite nicely.
>>69265531
I'd be cool with that. Need a new source for weed.
>>69265640
Terrible punctuation there. Should have read before posting.
>>69265662
>i am a shaman of sorts
Yeah whatever lad.
>>69265531
Psychopaths and sociopaths have a very difficult time with LSD so that may be what youre looking at with the suicides and hospitalized people
>>69265273
>>69265640
This is why i said you must prepare the LSA properly, make sure there is no fertilizer in it, i would reccomend extracting it with alchohol, and letting it soak in the alcohol for a few days/ weeks, in a dark part of your room
Dont do what i did and bring an alcohol extraction of salvia to school, not fun.
>>69265662
I'm personally an atheist because I've never seen any evidence of God. I guess that could change if I had a profound experience though.
>>69256533
Drugs are degenerate
/thread
>>69259159
This nigga right here has it figured out desu.
>>69256533
None
>>69265768
I know man, so many faggots these days say they are a shaman, but i truely am/was a master of drugs, I knew how to mix them for best effects, i babysat many people tripping, i know fucking tricks and things that have saved peoples minds, I no longer use drugs, but i try and give people good advice for when they use.
>>69265854
For the LSA, I've got HBWR seeds. Planning to start with about 5. Not sure whether to just eat them raw and deal with the nausea or whether to try CWE. The logistics of that would be awkward though and I've heard it removes some of the effect.
>>69265695
hmm, I am not a dealer though.
How do we take this convo off pol without either of us giving personal info out?
Cannabis and alcohol are great fot social conventions, and both have medicinal purposes in moderation.
I will throw in LSD too, but only if you're the creative kind looking for inspiration.
>>69266478
Do you have a Twitter account? I can link you to mine and you can send me a message there. There's nothing personal on it aside from like one picture of myself.
>>69265458
The point of life, if you want to define it, is crafted by your capabilities as a humand being and its condition. This alone means there is a vast, vast field of points to life.
But why go for experiences? How about overcoming yourself, passing on your knowledge, going beyond the borders of your current situation, the nation, then planet, then solar system, to form the world into a better image of your ideals. They are burried in everything and it is the duty of the human co-creator of life and matter, to bring everything to its best condition. Finally living up fully to your potential.
Creativity, dominance and expansion are only three capabilities of the human form that go beyond mere consumption of life, especially in a canned form as a movie is.
>>69266412
Those are good, grind them up, soak them in a shot of alcohol, let them sit a few days, maybe a week, then filter that through a coffee grinder, maybe use a few more seeds if you're worried that it will weaken it
>>69266763
Nietzsche here is traveling to Venus.
>>69266808
One way I heard was to let them soak for just a couple of hours in about 10 oz water. Apparently that's enough to extract the LSA without some of the other unwanted chemicals.
Basically my options are that or just eat raw.
I still do DXM on the reg tbqh
It's just such a great feeling
>>69266665
[email protected]
Errm, I don't have a twitter account I currently have access too.
The above e-mail is a throw away though, send me a message.
>>69267147
k. will send an email from one of my secondary accounts.
>>69266819
Mhm, Venus is okay. A bit hot, like a too big microwave. And the commies were there before me. The exoplanet around Gliese sound promising. Only ~20 lightyears away and a super earth with an average temperature of 30°C.
But why settle for a oneittis, if there are billions upon billions of possibilities.
>>69257874
Caffeine and l-theanine works wonders for me. Maybe small amounts of amphetamines and small amounts of alcohol too to help productivity.
>>69266987
If you ordered them from a good website without added chemicals like shamans garden, iamshaman, or bouncing bear, you dont need to clean them, so grind them up, put them in some juice and drink it, I had some pretty nuts diahreah, so drink alot of water, it helps with muscles being tense also, you could also take under 200 mg of Dextromethorphan, this would make it a little more trippy, maybe relax you also
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>>69267228
Can you faggots please not hint at illegal business dealings on /pol/? Don't give authorities more of a reason to look at this board with a lot of scrutiny.
>>69267286
I ordered them from herbaleye. I think it's just a UK store. Seemed pretty professional tho.
>>69267476
Not sure why you tagged my posts on HBWR. It's totally legal in the UK.
>>69267147
Sent an email titled 'dude weed lmao'. Did you get one called that from Seaman Staines?
Reminder that all drug-takers are willingly inflicting upon themselves a state of zombie-like conformity to post-modern nihilistic degeneracy. Drug users are weak, immoral losers and can not be trusted at all. Governments love to drug up their citizens because drug-takers are docile and easy to manipulate. Choosing to medicate oneself is the mark of a weak-willed individual, one who has no more self-control than a child guzzling chocolate. Bear this in mind when you choose to take drugs.
>>69268312
Nothing wrong with guzzling chocolate m8.
>>69260098
>make heroin at home
no you cant first you need a large amount of morphine, then you will a precursor that is immpossible for the average person to get.
If you have those then yeah all you need is foil and an oven but good luck getting those things especially the precursor.
>>69259253
Criminal degenerate scum here. Dudeweed got boring in dudeweed land so now we all do heroin and fentanyl. Succumbing to the opiate jew is by far the worst thing i've ever done
