Okay americunts its time to accept it. You have two options for your future one : vote for trump and watch as the u.s exiles itself from the rest of the 1st world and watch as your country declines as resources dry out fighting wars on 3 fronts, or vote for Bernie and watch the 1% et al who stole from you by not paying taxes and buying your elections, again for further profit at your expense, pay for your health care and college as you finally start to actually make it to a 21st century governing system simultaneously. Imagine trump with his double digits i.q and narrow sightedness negotiating with Putin? Whats that? You cant imagine it? Me neither
Most of you on here just promote him only as a way to excercise your 'edge' to your fellow cuckheld compatriots but you all know trump is retarded cant use words over 2 syllables without his aids and frankly was an unsuccessful business man because of it :) i frantically await your replies
Oh wait whats that? Trump would lose against Bernie in a general election? Hurr durr *i reject your reality and substitute my own*
>>69106139
I'll take my advice from a nation whose economy isn't dependent on potatoes thanks
>>69106241
/thread
>>69106139
>Bernie
>General Election
Ha. Hahahahaha
Super delegates. OP was a faggot today.
>>69106139
I ain't readin' all that shit potatonigger
Fuck off Mexico the wall is going up whether you like it or not
>>69106241
Thats a great argument that also tells me about as much detail about trumps "plan" as trump has told you about his "plan" :o
>>69106402
See now this guy sounds like trump, would you like me to write the thread in gold sharpie so can finally read it?
>>69106139
Ireland is for Bernie! #FeelTheBird #FeelTheBern
Lol you fucking stupid paddy
He is Jewish, Americans have never voted for a fucking non-Christian and they certainly won't vote for a communist.
>>69108218
> Sanders
> Communist
You call the Irishman stupid?
>>69108468
He is a communist though...
>>69108511
Except he's not at all a communist.
You realise that 'communist' isn't just a synonym of 'left-wing', right?
>mfw even Ireland, a conservative Catholic nation is more progressive than America
>>69108511
I don't think that word means what you think it does
>>69106139
>the u.s exiles itself from the rest of the 1st world and watch as your country declines as resources dry out fighting wars on 3 fronts,
There won't be a first world if there is another world war. Still, I think HIllary is far more dangerous than Trump:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/35958-a-world-war-has-begun-break-the-silence
>>69108468
USSR was called itself a socialist republic, not a communist one. Bernie claims himself a socialist, not a communist. I wonder if theres any resemblance.
>>69106467
>mexico
>>69108643
>He's just a socialist guys like omg dont you even know the difference like how can you hold that opinion! Besides its 2016 there is nothing wrong witg comm...I mean socialism plus real communism has never been tried!
>>69108755
Ireland is not a nation. Outside of Dublin, there is literally no civilisation. Maybe the odd father ted type setting.
>>69108910
they can call it whatever they want, it was run by the Communist party and openly supported Communist ideals.
Bernie isn't walking around quoting Marx and Lenin, your comparison is tenuous at best
Bernie Sanders is Americas last hope
>>69108643
Actually yes it is. Left wing rhetorics mixed with socialism lead to communism in the end. You've just been taught differently since you're part of the European social experience.
Trust a guy from Canada to tell you about socialism and the idiots who pander to your emotions to get your vote. See:Obama
>>69108910
Dang, that's a waterproof argument right there
Wait no it's that other thing: some highly tenuous bullshit
>>69109126
We aren't going to take advice from a fucking Somalian, go back to your cuck shed abdul Sven.
>>69109174
Nice passive aggressive format, truly, being smug shows who is in the right here.
>>69106320
This guy gets it.
>>69109126
Fuck off, Sven.
the econ plans of both trump and sanders work, they are pretty similar (one has a bit more nativism) and work for the same basic reasons
= anyone but shillary.
also you must stand against berniebots being turned into people who'd rather vote shillary than trump. the donald must be their 2nd preference!
>>69109077
Are the Cincinnati reds dirty commies as well? MacArthur was right.
>>69108218
Thats why he's destroying hillary in non south states right? ;)
>>69108511 define communist without googling it you ignorant fuck, stop getting your news from fox news. kek.
>>69108846 hillary is much more intelligent than trump but any educated person who has looked into the history of both know Bernie is by far the best choice over both
>>69108910 you do realise that social security numbers are a socialist governing tool? You do realise Bernie is a democratic socialist? You do realise that you wouldn't have to pay for health care and get 15 min wage under Bernie? You do realise the disposable income the middle class would have would result in huge tax profits for the government because currency circulation would be much better? You do realise this would mean better infrastructure and less debt for your country? Whats that you didn't think about all this becuase you were too busy trying to "make america great again" well look here Bernie will make america great again
>>69106139
>that cover
there's not a single thing on there that doesn't say cuck
>>69106139
Get fucked faggot
>>69109126
He really is
>>69109174
How is it bull shit? USSR means Union of Soviet socialist republic. Remember Socialism is baby steps to communism.
>>69106320
Bernie not only has the money, but the popularity to do well as an independent. Which he invariably will do once Shilary gets handed the DNC nomination.
Same story with Trump and the republicans.
>>69106139
Bad b8
>>69106139
>stole from you by not paying taxes
Resisting theft is now theft itself? :^)
>>69109099
Dont forget galway, cork, belfast and few other notables, Ireland is a small country but its not redundant
>>69109605
Except Bernie doesn't have the strength of personality to pull off a third party candidacy. I doubt even The Donald could make that work.
>>69109403
I can't say for sure whether he was in the right because "some communists pretended to be socialist, therefore all socialists are communists" is faulty logic.
>>69109159
> Actually yes it is. Left wing rhetorics mixed with socialism lead to communism in the end
Being the same thing and one leading to the other are two patently different things. That would be like me claiming that right wing rhetoric mixed with conservatism always leads to fascism, and that would be false also.
What makes you an authority on Obama, buddy?
>>69109605
1 donation = 1 prayer. Keep donating that money cuck.
>>69109781
>>69109781
You might have a point about Bernie, but both candidates have a feverish base of support which in my opinion would make up for any "lack of personality" they may or may not have on the campaign trail.
Regardless, each run in as an independent would pull major votes from the established parties and ensure an exciting race.
>>69109588
Most of Europe is socialist, and has been for decades. Where's all the communism?
>>69109752
hahaha fuck off you commie potato
>>69109605
Only difference is, Trump could still get the nom. Berndog, if he runs will be a Ross Perot on the Democrats. Trump wins
>>69106139
Lol, Ireland, lay off the Guinness. Bernie won't even make it to the general election. Right now Trump is playing conservative to win the nomination, he'll be more moderate in the general. The republican voting base is huge compared to democrats this year. Primary turn-outs have republicans coming 5-to-1 against democrats, but nobody cares because technically they aren't competing against each other yet. Is this your first American election cycle? Or your first ever, considering you're probably some latent IRA loser who browses /pol/ on a library computer?
what's the deal with hypothetical 3rd party runs? is there some kind of a deadline by which they must decide (ballot access and whatnot) ?
>>69109174
Last three stages of history (per Karl Marx):
4. Capitalism
5. Socialism
6. Communism
Your argument is: Bernie just want to get us from 4 to 5, what's so bad about that??
>>69109537
Are you a potato? Nice comeback. "This other team has red I the title! Lets focus on that and not on the ideology of a politician who openly supported communist figures"
>>69109978
Aye, but Trump is better than Hillary IMO.
I'd rather see Bernie than anyone else though.
>>69109917
> implying
>>69109917
At least post the good one
>>69109588
No, no anon. You mustn't talk about my dear Bernie like that. He isn't a socialist, remember he's a democratic socialist, big difference there.
>mfw
>Trump would lose against Bernie in a general election?
With the Dem's low turnout, and the Republicans setting records, you have failed to see the light.
Trump is absolutely clueless! Madman!
>>69110195
You realise america has been a democratic socialist state since social security?........
6 MILLION
>>69110144
I refer you to >>69109921
>>69110196
Implying they wouldnt show up to stop a racist sexist dumb cuntish white male from taking their liberal presidents throne in a general election.......
>>69110435
OH GOD
This must mean that America is already communist, because that's how it works right?
>>69110452
>>69109921
>Most of Europe is socialist, and has been for decades.
What parts of Europe are we talking about here, Nigel?
I'm ashamed to be a paddy cause of cucks like you
>>69110435
America has been moving towards National socialism since WW2 when we realized Hitler was onto something and stole all his scientists and population control plans.
>>69106139
>not American
>still drooling over our race
How is it that 90% of the bernie cucks that come over from /l/eddit don't grasp the concept of a flag?
>>69109921
Look at how Europe and the EU falling apart, everyday I read about how Greece and other countries have no money for their socialist programs, i read wonderful cultural immigration from your socialist leaders, which will be your downfall.
>>69106139
Lol. Fuck off.
>>69110579
The majority of it.
I'll give you an easier task: name all the European countries which *don't* practice socialism.
>>69106467
>american education
>>69106320
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/20/bolton-fbi-will-explode-if-hillary-not-indicted-over-email-scandal-due-to-politics/
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clinton-email-probe-20160327-story.html
>tfw in the military
>tfw if I did the exact same thing Hilary did I would be in jail
>>69106139
He will win if this nation has anyone with intelligence left in it.. so prolly not.
>>69110602
When America literally supports the economy and wellbeing of the world, it only makes sense that those who depend on us are concerned about the outcome of a major election.
Donald Trump is the most dangerous threat America and the world has faced yet. The guy is fucking insane racist. Only Bernie has what it takes to make him crawl back under what ever rock he came from.
>>69109126
Amen.
I've read that people said that people heard that ISIS is bad :^)
>>69110721
Thirded
>>69110435
Fuck off Pizzafag, that's not how it works at all.
>>69106139
"All socialism leads to communism"
-Vladamir Lenin
>>69106139
If anyone has a chance to win the general its trump. Do you really think anyone else in the reps would win. Plus why would I vote for someone I don't like just to get another kike in office.
>>69110667
Uh-huh. So you don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about. Okay then.
>>69110602
Implying the president of America only affects the american population? >>69110667
I think the guy is mistaking your use socialism as a totality europe uses democratic socialism not 100% socialism
>>69106139
>tfw all of the Bernie cucks come out to shitpost but all of the Trump supporters are at work because we aren't pieces of shit
>mfw I have no face
>>69110705
You got the reason wrong.
See this America? This is why you are considered ignorant and stupid.
Now that we're 55 minutes in, I want to know who's around me! Sure I'll answer later!
>>69110709
I hope this is b8,
But bou do realise your on /pol/ right
>>69109809
But it does always lead to fascism you dumb fuck.
>>69106570
>let me tell you about your country
The thread
>>69110709
>racist
>dangerous threat
>>69106139
The cuck Sanders better concentrate on beating Shillary.
>Bernie gets elected.
How long until Nobel peace prize?
It's funny to see people from various, random papers read their local rag (censored for hate speech) and suddenly they are experts on US politics.
Should charge other nations syndication rights for election coverage and use it to pay off national debnts.
>>69108643
Except he is a communist
See >>69109077 that you all conveniently ignore. Ironically you said labels don't matter but you give Bernie the benefit of the doubt because he calls himself a democratic socialist kek
>>69110608
"Greece and other countries"
What other countries? Greece is the extreme example (and arguably set up to fall with the imposition of arbitrary austerity measures) but again, most Euro countries seem to be doing about as okay as they have for a long time. The internet provides an increased visibility of the problems every country has but human culture no more or less of a shitshow than it ever was.
If any country is heading for a big fall, it's the USA.
Potato niggers best be trollin' if they think picking up a copy of the "blarney stone times" makes them some kind of expert on what's right for America.
>>69110709
The most dangerous threat for the world is degenerate cucked country you nigger coch sucking cunt.
>>69110709
>Sweden
I'm fucking your daughter
>>69110978
>mfw when Trump is going to nuke dune coons
>>69110968
>>69110968
Oh America isn't integral in the foreign affairs and trade economics of the majority of the planet?
> calling me ignorant when you so clearly are yourself.
I never said we were the "be all, end all", I mearly stated a well known fact. Same could be said about Europe or China. It makes sense to be concerned about world affairs as a world citizen you thickskulled fuck.
>>69106139
>yfw you're wrong
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-26/trump-will-become-president-statistical-model-says
>>69106139
Nah senpai. Gary Johnson.
>>69110965
Mfw bank holiday in Ireland.. top kek
>>69111011
Cant tell are you supporting me or him?
>>69110920
>Europe uses democratic socialism
What? you might be retarded.
>>69110965
Public holiday. Our workers actually gets time off to celebrate eastern. We don’t have to work 7 days a week all year just to make meet ends
>>69110858
See
>>69110920
Sorry for the confusion, I should've been more specific.
>>69111116
Except unlike trump he actually give us details about his policu the same policies he has been trying to push for the last 16 years in congress unlike trump who is just an unsuccessful business man who got his money through inheritance.
>>69111430 please point out the exact point were i was incorrect and support with evidence that deosnt arise from the bible you ignorant fuck
>>69111518
>mfw when you have state sanctioned holidays
Man am I jealous of your freedom. Does the government also wipe your ass when your poo?
>>69109126
Underrated post
>>69111651
That's nice. He's still a communist and his history proves it
>>69111374
Of course not, and you are trolling just spewing all the same shit the media wants you to think. I know it might be hard to understand over there being cuckolds to your own governments in Europe but plenty of Americans value being "self made" not having the right but the opportunity to make something great. Bernie embodies the opposite and you would be suprised to learn that Bernie would be less likely to get his socialist legislation passed then trump. Read about the man's life for a change don't just follow the guy who literally pops out of nowhere and goes "i'll get you the lifestyle you so desperately believe you want!"
Grow up
>>69111672
Get him elected in the Uk
>>69111651
I pointed out where you wrong already. I love that the only way you can accept other people's opinions is if you imagine they believe in sky monsters.
Ireland you have no idea what niggers and spics are like. you're lucky. You have no idea what its like in America right now. No clue, yet you think your opinion on the subject matters.
Trump is a secularist. You should fuck off already.
>>69106139
Just. Fuck. Off.
>>69108643
in the communist manifesto, (((karl marx))) states that socialism is a stepping stone on the way to full communism
>>69109537
presumably you mean McArthy, and yes, he was right
>>69109752
... Belfast isn't Ireland friend. Best check your atlas.
>>69111671
No, no ass wipes but our children can go to school without getting shot.
We can also go to college without having 40k in the bank
>>69111828
>self made
Try making yourself when your country deosnt have clean water because you had to pay for a new squad of fighter jets that have never been used in combat. Try making yourself when you cant afford third level education and when you get a loan you spend the next 20 years of your life paying it off while the 1% keep the profits, clearly i only watch CNN
>>69112125
Belfast is northern ireland what are you talking about
>>69112245
Different country. Don't lump us in with you fucks.
Can always tell when the high schools are off in other countries with all the wiggerisms here.
>>69106139
The retardation in this conjecture is palpable.
>>69109921
this relates to America, but most of it applies to the EU too
you do know that many of the top figures in the EU are "ex" communists? Like Barroso?
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
>>69112245
Just to make sure, you really are the OP, right anon?
Such a wonderful thread, I can understand why you'd feel the need to let everyone know.
>>69111643
>no no, man, i dont mean full blown socialism
>its just this totally reasonable combination of socialism and democracy
Dude, that just isn't the case.
>>69110452
oh I see, because step 5 has been reached, and step 6 hasn't been reached yet, there is no plan to implement step 6?
do you realize how retarded your logic is?
>>69111937
>no ideas what niggers are like
Implying that i'm white
>>69110543
I am implying that.Their turnout numbers are in the dirt. Do you comprehend?
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/16/470680309/republicans-are-far-outstripping-democrats-in-primary-turnout
>>69112245
>I need university to make myself
You know ghat statement is a non sequiter right? And part of the reason you will never be a self made man.
Also, the fuck you know about how Americans do or don't get their clean water and why do you think liberals are going to change that when Mr. Literal "hope and change" has been involved bombing Iraq and Syria and Libya and who knows who the fuck else, all while investing in the propaganda machine (aka the press) the fuck you know about liberal America?
>>69112245
>no clean water
>getting shot
>Taking the experience of niggers as being the experience of the average white American
You're letting us down OP
>>69111122
you don't deserve those digits, you must redistribute them to the immigrants who are needed to replace you and your family
have you never heard of the PIIGS? Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain?
all have had bailouts(which has only kicked the can down the road), or will need them soon
>>69106139
Ireland giving anyone advice on governance and economics.
>My. Fucking. Sides.
>>69109543
I am going to go out on a limb here and assume you are in your late teens or early 20s, have no family of your own, and have never held a professional job.
Child.
>>69112613
>>69112592
>Ireland giving anyone advice on governance and economics
Even though OP is a literal tard Ireland is pretty strong economically. We manage to sustain high growth with low net migration. Unlike Brit cucks.
>>69112613
DUUUDE FREEE STUUFFF MAAAAN
those evil rich should give us all their money or we will take it by force, but it's not theft. fucking greedy immoral bastards
>>69112806
You are literally cucked by Eurocracy.
We at least are trying to change that.
>>69112806
you didn't answer my point
>>69112613
Why then please grace us with your perspective crocodile dundee
>>69112698
Wrong on all accounts bar age.
>>69112964
I rest my case. You'll grow up one day, scamp.
>>69112926
Who would you vote for in the american election hugh jackman?
>>69112926
Which is what?
>>69112887
I know, and I applaud your attempts to leave the EU. But far from being Euro-niggers like Greece we actually took responsibility and underwent economic reform without rioting in our own streets.
>>69112964
So you're in your late teens/early 20's and have children?
Jesus Christ lad.
>>69112887
We also still benefit economically to a huge extent from the EU and aren't having the same problems with immigration... yet.
>>69113172
Please stop spreading that /adv/ meme of "you can always have your kids later". We both know that that's wrong.
>>69113076
who's that?
and how is this a response to my earlier post, you fucking retarted faggot grade c moran
>>69113263
Except in Ireland you generally don't become financially secure enough to have kids until you reach your late 20's at least. Everything is too expensive.
>>69113087
it's in the thread, scroll back
fuck socialists are fucking stupid
>>69113317
I actually laughed at your reply
>>69113370
Nope i dont have kids
>>69113373
There are two Ireland posters in this thread. I think you're responding to the wrong one. I'm far from a socialist.
Gif right back at you.
>>69113370
I'm not really worried about the financial aspect. It's more of a don't-produce-defective-offspring issue. Or do you really want your country to become the next Sweden?
>>69113076
Answer me faggot
>>69112513
>>69113497
We have a high birthrate. A baby boom in fact. I'm not worried.
>fellow Europeans hating on Trump and loving Bernie
I don't understand this.
>Trump get elected
>isolationist policy
>EU exports fucking explode taking over most of the US's worldwide market share
>no more TTIP as well
>it's fucking heaven
>Bernie get elected
>'Murikans get free health care and free university
>'Murikans still have higher salaries and cheaper taxes
>Europeans have nothing to feel elitist about anymore
Fuck Bernie, Fuck the US, Trump 2016
>>69113493
So whats your stance then if you could pick the next president who would be chosen?
>>69113582
>what's your stance so I can pick you apart
No u
>>69106139
>Trump wants to lower everyone's taxes
>Bernie wants to raise everyone's taxes (except for those who already contribute zero to society)
Yeah, Bernie definitely wouldn't get curb stomped in a general election.
>>69113582
Trump.
Probably not good from an Irish economic perspective, but at least one major Western country needs to uncuck itself. It's more of a cultural thing.
>>69113563
I do sincerely hope that it's not because of muzzie rapes.
>>69113489
You faggot you said he was wrong about you not having kids.
>inb4 family doesnt mean kids
Yes it does, retard, he said a "family of your own".
>>69109029
>smelly and uneducated like mexicans
I see what he did there.
>>69113635
>ya guys we are gonna lower your taxes and that should really benefit the deficit :^) believe me
>>69113635
This. Virtually no one ever votes to knowingly raise their own taxes.
And Bernie's tax increases will be permanent because the dependency monstrosity he creates will need to be maintained no matter what
>>69113489
still doesn't want to respond to the point in the earlier post
typical lefty idiot trick, might even have to downgrade to class D
>>69113493
you know we have IDs right?
>Even though OP is a literal tard Ireland is pretty strong economically. We manage to sustain high growth with low net migration
if your economy is so strong, why are you in the PIIGS group?
>>69113706
Muslims are like 1.3% of the population here. Irish people have always had a higher birth rate than the rest of Europe.
>>69113780
How does the "deficit" impact your life? Are your days better or worse when it goes up or down? How are you better/worse off because of "the deficit"?
>>69113853
That is good to hear.
>>69113836
>if your economy is so strong, why are you in the PIIGS group?
Outdated term.
Faulty premise.
>>69106139
I think you are out of touch with reality.
>>69113918
It affects the interest rate and inflation.
>>69111374
Why is this old commie pointing at others all the fucking time?
>>69113853
and what will happen once the common asylum policy is implemented?
or when the rapefugees from the mainland get EU passports and can compete for your potatoes at will?
you think islame has no designs on Ireland? "I have been commanded to wage war until religion is only for Allah" Quaran 8:39
>>69113790
no, they vote to get free stuff from increasing other peoples taxes, they just don't realize that taxes will be raised on them too
>>69113937
why is it outdated? when did it stop being relevant?
>>69114057
>and what will happen once the common asylum policy is implemented?
Nothing good.
Why are you so argumentative. We seem to be in agreement. What gave you the impression we weren't?
>>69112513
U.S infrastructure is fucking shit outside major cities.
>>69113635
>wants to lower taxes
And decrease minimum wage, and pay for massive wall and 'take care' of putin and also holds no policy away from no muslims
>>69113649
You would risk nuclear war for a cultural cleanse? Ha trump would be impeached in the first year of his term if not assassinated first not to even mension is apparent lack of an actual "plan" or the fact he loses in all national polls >>69114057
Implying theres no muslims here already
>>69106139
tl;dr
>>69114250
>You would risk nuclear war for a cultural cleanse?
You're a total fucking retard considering Trump is the least likely of all the candidates to get into a confrontation with a nuclear power.
How do lefty cucks interpret "I'm going to get on with Putin" as "I'm going to start a nuclear war"
>>69113967
Do you live off of a pension? If not you should be more worried about what you can earn and where you are putting it
>>69114250
And the UAE and Saudi Arabia have great infrastructure thanks to socialism?
>>69114375
>Do you live off of a pension?
No but I eventually will and have to pay interest on a mortgage.
>>69114374
Have you ever seen trump have an intelligent conversation with another official? He is the epitome of a fool, he is the most likely candidate to do something completely retarded if you dont see that. .well baka
>>69106139
I don't take advice from conquerd nations
>>69114214
you don't seem worried about mass immigration and islam enough
you claim Irelands economy is good, despite you recently having bailouts. I don't see how taking more loans cures a country's financial situation long-term
>>69114375
>Do you live off of a pension?
Not yet
Interest rates affect mortgage repayments. Mortgage default leads to economic turmoil. Countries that don't manage their debt properly become basket cases. The US can sustain it because of its position economically and politically, but it can only sustain so much debt before things get out of hand and when they do it will happen suddenly. Look up "the wall of worry"
>>69114432
They dont have the biggest economy on the planet do they?
>>69114577
>Have you ever seen trump have an intelligent conversation with another official?
Yes. I watched his 1991 testimony to a house committee on the housing crisis at the time. He's very astute and if you can't see that you're the one who's not that bright.
>>69114375
Dude, the average American is up to their ears in debt. It's simply how the culture works. Student loans, credit cards, mortgages, leasing, those are just part of everyday life there.
>>69106139
go back to sanders4prez, no one is buying your shit
>>69106139
>even if trump wins the nom he still loses election.
The money is on Hillary Clinton to bury Donald Trump
CBS News - 4 hours ago
Prediction one: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton will win their parties' nominations. Prediction two: Clinton will take the White House handily.
>>69106139
So why isn't ambition working for women?
>>69114595
>you don't seem worried about mass immigration and islam enough
I am. Believe me I am
Our previous government had about 2 years of madness because after nearly 2 decades of prosperity people took their eye off the ball. We're running a surplus at the moment and depending on the make-up of the next government we'll probably focus on debt reduction as opposed to spending increases.
>>69106320
>Super delegates
>>69106241
FPBP
Praise kek.
>>69114859
Hillary isn't going to live long enough to see the end of the presidential race, especially if it turns out to be Trump against her. Considering her failing health, she's either gonna go via a heart attack due to Trump roasting her during debates, or she's gonna drink herself into a coma.
>>69114785
Theres a difference between a pre-dermined testimony that you had to go back to 25 years ago to find than actively efficently running the most powerful country.
> 1991
Hah
>>69114946
Because they don't have any.
>>69115051
When there was a housing crisis they called Donald J Trump not Bernie Sanders to give them advice.
>>69106139
POPE HONORS NUNS AS MARTYRS IN NEW ISIS KILLING
>>69115051
look at this faggot moving the goal posts
B
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F
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>>69115170
Housing crisis that resulted in the banks getting bailed out at the expense of the population , also because Bernie was too busy voting against that bullshit was maybe why they didnt call on him
>>69115324
>Housing crisis that resulted in the banks getting bailed out at the expense of the population
You don't even know what year it is.
>>69115503
Thats a solid counter argument, dont know how to react to this to be fair
>>69115655
any comment?>>69112509
>>69115800
>>69115800
> 5:1 ratio
Wut?
>>69116076
>>69116126
>turnout
>vote results
Same thing, really.
>>69116126
Okay OP, I'm pretty sure you're either baiting or retarded. Washington != Washington D.C.
They're on opposite sides of the country.
>>69116395
>>69115655
There was no bank bailout in 1991, you dummy
>>69116428
>>69108170
#gropethefowl
>>69116751
Thats not what i was refering to when i said bailout.
>>69106570
>about his "plan" :o
>:o
>>69116852
Yes it was
>>69116954
>:o
>>69116720
>>69116790
thanks for making my point chap
>>69116720
>>69116790
If you can't see why this disproves your entire turnout argument, you're legitimately retarded.
>>69110436
Well he's not wrong...
>>69117062
The point being that despite primary turnout hillary would still beat trump in a general election and would give challenge even in red states.
>>69106139
How many potatoes does it take to kill a million Irish?
NONE!
>>69117219
Where exactly is that proven in your postings?
Democrats lose when their turnout is low.
I took the trouble to add them for you:
1,275,601 Republicans voted in Georgia
757,340 Democrats voted in Georgia
Come election day, they won't have the youth turnout they have now, without Bernie.
>>69106139
Bernie is a Jew and wont go against other Jews. Clanthinking is what makes Jews Jews.
Bern is just the backupplan for Hillary. They installed a Jew in germany already.
>>69117676
who the fuck gives a shit about georgia? they will go red no matter what.
trump is going to get smoked and i am going to enjoy your underage tears in november
>>69117676
Come election day after bernie either wins the nomination or goes independent the revolution will be in full swing and places like california, n.y and washinton will be deciding factors for dems and why they will trump wont win
>>69117876
Read our convo if you're going to comment in it, moron. I am pro Trump.
>>69110697
That really has to sting for anyone in the service. It's beyond despicable.
>>69117973
I truly hope your prediction comes true. If Bernie runs 3rd party, Hilary is doomed before the voting starts. Because we both know Bernie isn't getting the nom.
>>69117973
doesnt make sense at all. If bernie runs interdependent the DNC will split in 2... While if Trump is the GOP nominee the GOP will unite with Trump... hahaha go ahead and let bernie run indi it will be a great choice... He still has too beat hillary with a 700 delegate lead. I dont see it happening she will make sure she wins. Im pretty sure bernie already said he wouldnt run independent anyway.
>>69118158
2000 delegates still available in hugely liberal states Bernie destroying clinton in all of them so far. Why cant you see it senpai
>>69110037
God I hope so, if it divides the vote up, it's be an easy win.
>>69118366
Because if he can't win the minority votes in those states, he's going to lose. Bernie wins in blue states that are white. Those are few.
>>69117030
>:D
>>69114677
That doesn't matter, the fact that you think socialism correspond with infrastructure shows that the media has hoodwinked you into being the loyal servant of the establishment for the rest of your life. As if pouring money into development makes a project good or not where trump has spent his life otherwise
>>69114437
>I will need to eventually pay interest on a mortgage
No That is what you want to do, that your consumer lifestyle choice, institution shouldn't be burdened with guaranteeing that for you. Did you learn nothing from the housing crisis?
>>69118595
Spent his life proving otherwise*
>>69117999
>trump is going to get smoked
>I am pro Trump
>Read our convo if you're going to comment in
>>69118837
another idiot
>>69118595
No i say infrastructure because it has been directly references by Bernie as an objective not because i think socialism automatically means ideal infrastructure.
>>69118718
This
>>69106139
Earlier this year it was
>trump would win the general but will never win the nomination
>>69119038
Speak for yourself
>>69106139
Go home ireland, you're drunk.
>>69119204
But Ireland's home is also drunk.
But bernie won't even get out of primaries, stop being so delusional.
>>69119038
No, it was never that. Thanks for showing everyone you're an underage child whose participating in his first presidential election though.
This whole thread arguing with OP has basically reaffirmed and vindicated my choice to vote for Trump.
Jesus fucking christ liberals are a bunch of fucking crazy idiots...
>>69106139
>stole from you by not paying taxes
I can tell you got caught in their trap
taxes arent shit, in fact every time they are raised it just empowers the rich more, because now no one can ever reach their level of competition, and only they are left at the top, the only one capable of paying your measly taxes
great result
took a break from twitter a while ago
come back and its packed with anti trump tweets
>>69112462
>implying nonwhites like niggers
Bernie's voting record is solid economic nationalism. He's smart, and he has what it takes to turn this country around. He has been in national politics for a solid 40 years without being corrupted. He knows the system.
He's the only one who will most likely end the brewing race war.
Donald Trump claims to be an outsider to politics, but he spent decades bank rolling the Clintons and other SJW politicians. He's friends with bankers.(like the people you mean when you bitch about jews). Expect this man to take a large swing back to the "left" and go full SJW in the general election.
He also changes his stance every other day, and cries like a little girl when people troll him.
Sanders has a Jewish background but is not religeous and doesn't take shit from Jewish bankers, and has stood up to Israel when Clinton pressed him for more support on Israel. No one will ever call him anti-semetic for telling israel to go screw. He's the only one who can do that.
Anyone who really buys into trump's bullshit is dumb enough not to do even the most basic research.
Also, Bernie has already won the primaries. All the states that are going to vote for hillary already done so(i.e. the deep south)
His upset in michigan is a bellwether of things to come.
>>69119990
You realise what a bernie administration running on billionaire tax money thats focused on relieving oligarchy would mean for the whole population?>>69120153
Maybe not 'niggers' but black people? Sure.
>>69120288
Thank you, im so glad to see this amidst all these edgy KKK wannabes
>>69113564
>isolationist policy means you dont trade with other countries
where the fuck did this meme even come from?
>>69121010
I would rather see the planet getting a better quality of life than just europe getting richer
>>69121224
Honestly, fuck the rest of the planet. They had enough time to improve their quality of life and they clearly didn't want to work for it.
>>69106139
>Hi, I'm a millennial who gets all my news and information from mainstream media and reddit. Want to hear my uninformed bluepilled opinions and a bunch of memes about Trump that I've never bothered fact checking or critically analyzing?
No. No I don't.
>>69106139
Hey faggot, worry more about the upcoming Brexit and what it means for your little island. Bernie isn't going to win against Shillary since she hasn't been imprisoned yet.
>>69121390
No they couldn't "work for it" because they had being and are still being oppressed and taken advantage of by the first world for resources, labour and profit. Not to mension political agendas
>>69121526
No im more worried about dying from radiation fallout if trump becomes president to be honest.
>>69106139
Even if by some miracle that stupid Jew becomes president he will be a bigger do nothing than Obama
At least Trump creates lulz
>>69121619
>oppressed
lol
Also, funny how Zimbabwe became even more of a shithole after they kicked Whitey out and started running their own show.
anybody know about Arizona Election Fraud Hearing?
>>69121749
Not if he splits the republican party apart and democratic congress give him the power to change things properly
>>69121817
Maybe because whitey already exported all the profitable resources and slavery wasnt legal anymore so couldnt sell the fucking people at least
>>69121957
Eastern listing to 1 pm.
http://azleg.granicus.com/Mediaplayer.php?publish_id=8
>>69122135
>Maybe because whitey already exported all the profitable resources and slavery wasnt legal anymore so couldnt sell the fucking people at least
No, because the niggers were too stupid to know how to raise crops and ran all their farms to the ground, inducing famine in the country.
>>69106139
potato
>>69122135
>If
And there it is. No matter how badly the Republicans are tearing into each other now God as my witness they will unite against that crazed old fucker and stop him from putting the final nail into our economic coffin.
Even other Democrats hate him as the image I posted outlines and a Dem congress will have to come after two years of doing fucking nothing which is highly unlikely as people will be pissed they haven't gotten their free shit
Bernie is a scam to rile up the youth vote and nothing more
Stay in your hole you damn dirt farmer.
You do know that Gutsman worked on a Kibbutz in Israel praising Stalin, right?
>>69122585
A scam that has had the same policy and objectives for 16+ years
>>69122381
So because CNN said it wont work, even though there is evidence that suggests other his vision is hollow?
>>69108643
He's hiding his communism from the American people. He travelled to the USSR for his honeymoon for fucks sake.
After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”
"His radical activities didn’t stop at the water’s edge.
Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.
In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas."
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Lets get serious here, Bernie is a bernout. He cannot win. Let's review the facts:
If we ignore the superdelegates as Berniebots say we should, then Hillary has 1,267 delegates and Bernie has 975. A gap of 292. IF Bernie can get a majority of pledged delegates, it's reasonable that they would switch.
There are no winner take all states on the dem side. 2,218 pledged delegates are pledged to either Hillary or Sanders. 2,049 remain. Subtract 2049 by 263 (number of remaining superdelegates) and you have 1,786 pledged delegates remaining. Pretty cool! It's easy to imagine Sanders catching up when there's nearly nine times the number of delegates in play as Sanders' current gap, right?
Well, let's look at this a different way. Bernie needs to get a majority of pledged delegates. That means he has to get at least half the pledged delegates, plus 292. So (1786 / 2) + 292 = 1185.
Now let's make that a percentage. 1185/1786 = Bernie needs 66% of remaining pledged delegates to catch up to Hillary. This means he needs to do 66% or better on average to catch up with Hillary! And it gets worse, as a lot of the states have Bernie doing the opposite (33% or less!) for key states with more Delegates (New York for example). Other states with more delegates still put Bernie squarely behind (California, for instance).
Bernie will not catch up with a majority of pledged delegates before the convention. The superdelegates will fail to switch unless he does this.
The only chance - and I mean ONLY chance Bernie has - is that Clinton is tried for the email shit, making him the only choice of the party.
>>69117973
I think I'm a bit late to this, but Washington DC has a much higher turnout rate for Democrats than Republicans because DC is extremely Democrat. Always has been. It's also a shit-hole. Go figure.
Darkies will vote for Hillary, the youth will vote for Bernie. There are more Darkies than youth. If you want a Democrat to win, better hope for Hillary.
I know of a lot of Democrats that are voting for Trump in the general, which is kind of surprising.
Let's play >BAIT OR SHITPOST?!
The thread.
>>69109605
Wouldn't him running as an independant just split the vote with Hillary, giving Trump the votes to win by a wide majority?
>>69106241
FPBP
>>69106139
>GAIS GAIS THE MOST MODERATE CONSERVATIVE CANIDATE CAN WIN THE PRIMARY
>BUT HE'LL LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION AGAINST THE MODERATE LIBERAL
>please vote cruz plz so i can get paid
>please consider hernie so i can get paid a little less
Good morning shills.
>>69124094
Likely. People say the same about Trump running independent if the GOP screws him at a brokered convention.
The biggest shitshow would be if Bernie and Trump were both denied the nomination and both decided to run indepdently. I can't even imagine what the five months leading up to election day would even look like.
If you sandroids focused on Hillary as much as you do on Trump you might actually be winning.
>>69109605
>bernie running as an independant will somehow give him voters he didn't have before.
>>69123524
Exactly and I do not trust 16 years old with informed decisions regarding policy, especially economics
>>69124563
That would be amazing because Bernie would win
>>69122195
this
Trump supporter here. I'm actually starting to get worried about Bernie. You still have progressive shitholes like NY and California coming up, where Bernie can win big. Superdelegates can easily switch to Bernie once he gets a lead.
In the general, Bernie will take a lot of right-leaning Democrat and Independent votes away from Trump.
I'd much rather have Trump go against Hillary in the general.
>>69124639
He'd probably pull in some #nevertrump fags.
>>69124676
Not so sure on that one. The left has been so against trump they've mainly focused their efforts there. As has the right to deny them the nomination. Trump's largest battle, which he has focused on, is to get towards a majority of delegates, attacking other republicans (for the most part) in the process. If he gets the nomination he can focus on attacking the democratic candidate. Thus far, Sanders and Hillary have largely been spared by Trump's and his campaign.
Both Trump and Sanders have strong appeal for different reasons to different people. Cruz and Hillary represent more of status quo traditional politics. If you deny those scorned by the party the nomination, you then lose a lot of votes from people who just vote along party lines.
One key difference between this election and the 2008 election is that democrat and republican participation in the primaries is essentially flipped. You have about 8 people voting in the republican primaries for every 5 democrats. This is not the type of numbers that supports Sanders well in an independent run. Sanders supporters also gravitate towards people that tend to vote in lower numbers, and while their energy may support some successes in primaries, they are unlikely to have a substantial impact in the general elections.
>>69125115
Hillary is the chosen one. Superdelegates aren't going anywhere. People owe her too many favors to not hand it over to her.
>>69125115
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/
Hillary polls anywhere from 21 percent to nearly 50% higher than sanders (71% vs. 23% on that poll, 48% different) in New York. For New York to even give half its delegates to sanders is exceedingly unlikely.
Even then, see >>69123911
Sanders needs 66% wins per state to beat Hillary on pledged delegates, and certain states that have more (New York, California) Hillary has a clear advantage.
>>69106139
Can reddot get off their european proxies it's making us look bad.
>>69125135
If you assume that Bernie runs independent because he lost the nom to Hillary, Hillary is a #nevertrump choice that is far closer to traditional politics. If Trump is denied the nom and runs independent as well, Cruz (most likely, sliver of a chance for Kashich) is a #nevertrump choice as well.
Bernie has funded his campaign with broke kids' money.
They are through the roof in debt and think if they throw enough money at Bernie, he will magically wipe all their debts away and they will get a free ride for life.
What a great plan. Jesus Christ.
>>69125149
No attack on bernie can make him a worse choice to the non-racist educated america but hillary can be destroyed with ad hominem attacks not to mension actual legal proceedings against her that trump could encourage and fund.
Bernie would be the perfect candidate to call out trump because he has a history of authenticity minority support and a solid plan for the future
>>69125576
>Bernie
>Calling anyone out
You never seen a debate that featured Bernie, have you?
>>69106139
Im not voting in the primaries ravioli, but if trump gets the nom I'll vote him over bern or hillary any day. Im sure there are many more like me
>>69125516
Nit picking biased tweets yeah solid evidence. Why dont i wait here for trumps policy and the blueprints for his "plan" instead, maybe il have some trump steak and trump wine while i wait? Oh wait he doesn't even own them HAHAHAHAH
>>69125769
"Pathological liar"
"Prejudice"
"Islamaphobe"
These are all ways bernie has decided trump.
I got banned from /r/SandersForPresident :(
Good thing it won't be around much longer, Kek.
>>69125795
>biased tweets
not
>his policy and beliefs
Sure
>>69125277
>>69125355
I hope so.
>>69125576
>No attack on bernie can make him a worse choice to the non-racist educated america
Not really. His tax plans resonate with a lot of people, as do his approach on other topics. Even if you assume most educated people wouldn't vote for trump, younger, more educated people are also traditionally less likely to vote.
>hillary can be destroyed with ad hominem attacks not to mension actual legal proceedings against her that trump could encourage and fund.
And Bernie can't? The man didn't get a job with a steady paycheck until he was forty, had his honeymoon in the USSR, and was a self described socialist. If it ever got past the point where Trump was past the GOP nom and was against Hillary and Sanders he would have plenty of shit to fling at him, and a good portion of it would stick.
>Bernie would be the perfect candidate to call out trump because he has a history of authenticity minority support
That's not how minorities are voting or perceive it. A lot of minorities thank Clinton for the gun bills, among other things, that Bill did in the nineties, and that they transitively give Hillary credit for.
>A solid plan for the future
A lot of people would disagree with this. Bernie's health plan is totally unsustainable, as are his other proposals. Taxes would need to be far higher than what he calls for to support the programs in the capacities he describes. And a lot of people are against illegal immigrants, whether or not they think a wall is the right solution. Amnesty policies from Sanders and Clinton deter a lot of people as well.
>>69125891
IN A DEBATE I SAID A DEBATE
Anyone can call out against someone who isn't there to defend themselves, it's cowardly.
If Bernie was to face of against Trump he wouldn't stand a chance since he never went on the attack not even once during his debates against Hillary and if he can't even argue against a walking weakspot how can he even dream of competing against a silver tongued business dealer?
>>69125795
A man running for President makes that Tweet while running for President, he shouldn't be running for President.
If you eat your own boogers or pop pills on TV, you shouldn't be President.
If you're under investigation for playing fast and loose with national security while Secretary of State because you wanted all emails to 'just go to your phone and fuck all that other shit.', and set up your own server to do so, you shouldn't be running for President.
If you get stronger as the race goes on, gather more and more support, because you're so awesome, and you're a billionaire literal meme of winning since the 80s, that has proven him successful time and time again, then you should definitely be running for President, and you should win it in a landslide.
It really is that simple. Great thread, and I'm sorry about Conor and the potato joke earlier.
In America, no one even knows what a gazelle really is, motherfucker, get it right. -Nate Diaz, gazelle trainer.
>>69111651
>imblyingk a successful bidness empire without some risk
>muh 'if he had invested his money he'd be richer'
>except the $4 billion he has now is in fluid assets, and a shitload more in property and licensing assets
>all Trump policies are outlined on his website, perfectly readable for someone who is remotely literate
>mfw a potato thinks he has a viable opinion on any of this
Go back to the pub, Patty.
>>69115324
>Housing crisis that resulted in the banks getting bailed out at the expense of the population
Thank you government, for forcing them to engage in the behavior that caused them needing the bailout in the first place.
Thank you government, for promising that they'd get the bailout all along should something like the 2008 recession happen
>also because Bernie was too busy voting against that bullshit was maybe why they didnt call on him
He most definitely supported the Affordable Housing Act, which caused the issue. He almost most definitely loves voting in favor of government subsidization of major corporations, especially defense contractors.
Stick to being damp and pissed off at Britain, we'll handle our shit on our side of the meridian. Without socialists and nosy, entitled Europeans.
>>69126262
What people would take him as a commi because he went to russia? Yeah good one bernie is clean and trump and hillary have many weaknesses that can and will be utilised
Do you know in the comedy central roast of trump the only subject he chose to be out of bounds was wether or not he actually has billions or not? The guy isnt even that rich why would a multi billionaire spend his time firing people on t.v?
>>69126809
>What people would take him as a commi because he idolized soviet russia?
FTFY. Yes.
>bernie is clean
He's in bed with corporations like Unilever, and is the poster child for the wealthy Hollywood elite. Establishment as fuck.
>The guy isnt even that rich
Let me know when you have several sky-line altering buildings in major US cities with your name on it, then you can judge.
>>69126809
>why would a multi billionaire spend his time firing people on t.v?
Why would a businessman get publicity? No idea.
>>69127027
Running and winning a presidential election and being a good president hold no correlation with being a publically hated business man with a history of huge failures deosnt correlate with people seeing you as a prime candidate deos it?
>>69127016
To label bernie has an establishment pawn is a more false position than calling hillary honest
>>69126809
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
>>69127419
>To label bernie has an establishment pawn is a more false position
He's an establishment pawn. He is the establishment's "Anti-Establishment" candidate, from his constant voting in favor of military funding and action, and to his statements that he wouldn't end the drone war.
"more false" is retard English and not a counter point. Stay in school.
>>69108643
>>69108823
The nigger was openly a communist when he was younger.
>>69126809
>Bernie is clean
Did you not get the part where he wrote porn about women when he didn't find himself a job?
Did you miss the part where he couldn't get a job when until he 40 years old?
Did you forget the time he said "White people do not know what it's like to be poor."?
Did you miss the part where he was pro Russia during the time of the Cold War?
Did you miss the part in the year 1963 where he went Israel to be a part of the Labor Zionist Movement?
Did you miss the the part where he literally says that he is a democratic socialist?
Seriously man. He is not clean.
>>69127419
>publically hated business man
>history of huge failures
Have you ever considered that maybe most people don't actually have the same opinion as you?
>>69127419
When you're claiming that anyone has a history of huge failures the first thought in your head should honestly be Bernie "I couldn't get a job until I was 40 years old" Sanders.
>>69127709
Read this >>69127462
And tell me how established he with the status quo
Also he wants to use drone so infantry wont be killed on the ground also to retain huge military preference over Clinton,
Bernie wants to rob the billionaires and you think he is part of the establishment? Really?
