The facts:
>Trevon Johnson was found dead in the home of Liberty City, FL resident retiree Gwendolyn Jenrette.
>Gwendolyn Jenrette found Trevon in her home after being alerted by security cameras on her property.
>Gwendolyn Jenrette contacted the police as she made her way to her home, she informed the dispatcher that she was going to enter her home and find out what was going on, the police dispatcher told her not to do that. (Mrs. Jenrette installed the cameras on her property because she had been a victim of burglary at her home in the past.)
>Gwendolyn Jenrette entered her home with her pistol in hand, she encountered Trevon Johnson in her home, 1 shot was fired and police believe that Trevon was attempting to escape Gwendolyn Jenrette, he died from this shot.
It keeps happening.
>>68223905
why are the dindus and liberals really gonna defend a burglar?
>>68223905
> Washington Post (1/?)
Gwendolyn Jenrette can be forgiven for putting security cameras around her modest Miami home. She lives in Liberty City, a high-crime neighborhood in a high-crime town. Her low-slung duplex backs onto the railroad tracks and has been targeted in the past.
She can also be forgiven for racing home when, on Thursday afternoon, her security system alerted her to another break-in at the property.
But can she be forgiven for, according to police, fatally shooting a teenager as he fled her house, even as officers were on their way to help?
That is the question now facing the state’s attorney’s office.
Seventeen-year-old Trevon Johnson died Thursday night after Jenrette shot him once as he allegedly fled the scene of the home invasion, according to Miami-Dade police. There have been no indications that Johnson was armed.
The slaying of the teenage burglary suspect was reported triumphantly by local television station WSVN, which said Jenrette had “turned the tables” on Johnson.
>>68223905
>>68224014
>Washington Post (1/?)
“Police say this would-be robber chose the wrong home because this homeowner did more than just call the cops,” reported WSVN’s Brandon Beyer. “She had a gun.”
But Johnson’s family said the young man didn’t deserve to die over mere property, which they said he hadn’t even taken.
“I don’t care if she have her gun license, her rights or any of that. That is way beyond the law,” Johnson’s cousin Nautika Harris told CBS Miami. “Way beyond.”
The law on home invasions and use of force, however, varies widely from one state to the next. Similar cases across the United States have produced starkly different outcomes, with some homeowners who shot intruders charged with manslaughter or even murder.
The Miami shooting comes at a crucial moment in the debate over gun control in this country. In January, President Obama announced new executive orders to combat gun violence, angering gun rights advocates. And amid an incessant string of mass shootings, states continue to expand their open-carry regulations.
As violent crime edged up last year for the first time in decades, America appears divided over whether increased gun ownership is part of the problem or the solution.
>>68224007
I'm not racist so I'm going to ignore your post.
>>68223905
>>68224014
>Washington Post (1/?)
Over the past two years, a handful of U.S. homeowners have been charged for fatally shooting intruders.
In 2013, James George Stiffler fatally shot a man he found allegedly ransacking his Helena, Mont., home. The homeowner, then 66, said he feared his wife was in the house and that the intruder, 37-year-old Henry Thomas Johnson, was dangerous.
At first, authorities sided with Stiffler. But then the medical examiner determined that Johnson had been shot in the back.
“I believed Stiffler was not at fault,” Lewis and Clark County Sheriff Leo Dutton told the Billings Gazette. “But forensic evidence indicates a different event.”
Prosecutors charged Stiffler with murder in 2015. His attorneys slammed the charges.
“Mr. Stiffler has mourned the loss of life, even as he was left with no choice but to fire his weapon,” Stiffler’s attorneys said in a statement. “But it is a travesty of justice that Johnson’s conduct also now threatens to ruin Mr. Stiffler’s life as well.”
>>68223905
>Washington Post (1/?)
Johnson’s family made an impassioned claim that the teenager deserved justice, despite the circumstances of his death.
“He was not supposed to die like this,” Harris, his cousin, told CBS. “He had a future ahead of him. Trevon had goals. He was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning.”
Johnson was a student at D.A. Dorsey Technical College, barely a block away from where he died. He also lived in the same neighborhood, and his cousin said Liberty City shared some blame in his death.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” Harris said. “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
She and other family members said that Jenrette did not need to shoot Johnson, especially since police were on their way.
>>68223905
>Washington Post (1/?)
“If she called the police already, why would she shoot him?” Harris told CBS.
There is little clarity in the reports of what happened that afternoon after Jenrette rushed home. It’s unclear whether Jenrette called the police or whether they were automatically called to the house by the alarm system. A police statement said she “arrived prior to the officers and began to inspect the exterior of the home, when a confrontation occurred with the burglar. The homeowner produced a firearm and shot the subject.”
Other news reports quoting police said she “went room to room” searching the house before finding Johnson, according to WSVN.
“She observed a subject exiting the home through the rear,” Miami-Dade police spokesman Daniel Ferrin told the television station. “At that point there was some type of a quick confrontation.”
“The police told her don’t go in the house,” Vaughan Johnson, Trevon’s brother, told WPLG. “She’s still going in the house searching for something. Then she says this lady came out and shot one time and shot him in the chest.”
“What’s wrong with her?” Johnson’s sister, Nisha Johnson, told CBS. “She did not have to shoot him.”
Police arrived moments after the shooting and tried to revive Trevon, but it was too late. He was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Johnson had been arrested earlier this year, although the charge was not disclosed because he was a juvenile, WSVN reported.
>Trevon
>>68224249
>incessant string of mass shootings
known in Chicago as "Tuesday"
>>68224014
>>68224249
>>68224337
>>68224585
>>68224663
>he dindu nuffin. he was a good kid, and just getting his life back on track
>>68223905
>Washington Post (1/?)
The state’s attorney’s office will decide whether charges will be filed against Jenrette. But Florida statutes provide some of the staunchest protections in the country for homeowners who confront intruders.
“A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony,” according to state law. “A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.”
>>68223905
>Washington Post (1/?)
But Florida law goes far beyond this “Stand Your Ground” law, which became the focal point in the 2012 shooting of another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in Sanford, Fla.
Instead, in Florida, anybody who “unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.”
That means that homeowners are presumed to have “reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another” whenever someone “unlawfully and forcefully” enters their house, essentially giving homeowners broad license to shoot at intruders.
Florida law also provides homeowners who shoot intruders with sweeping protections against civil lawsuits, meaning Johnson’s family is unlikely to receive a wrongful death settlement.
Police said Jenrette is cooperating with the investigation and accompanied officers to the station for questioning.
“She’s a person that is a little distraught because this is her home that someone obviously was in,” Ferrin told CBS.
He also asked citizens to let officers do their jobs, however.
“If there’s any type of situation that happens or they believe there’s a burglary at the home or any type of confrontation, dial 911. Have the police make that confrontation,” he said. “That’s what we’re here for.
>>68223905
>1 shot was fired
There we go, not guilty. I want to see the judge that would seriously charge her for killing him when you could so easily just say that was a warning shot that accidentally hit his head.
>>68224759
if there are cameras on premises, this should be open-and-shut
of course, if the small tiny babby child dindu nuffins, then the footage doesn't matter
From a legal standpoint she fucked up.
But she's an elderly woman in Florida so she might get off with a slap on the wrist.
Anarchotyranny: where the law prevents you from defending yourself against chaos and crime.
thankfully she's black so she'll get off alright. Never thought I'd type that sentence
Castle doctrine is the most ethical solution to home burglary and should be protected sternly. Individuals taking control of their own security is more effective and efficient than the state, and without threat of harm or death would-be-robbers aren't adequately deterred from their thievery
>"How he gon' get his money"
FUCKING NIGGERS
https://youtu.be/2ZGSQXmJPaQ?t=104
>>68224965
see
>>68224901
american law not eu law
>>68223905
>fled her home
>found dead inside home
you really cant trust headlines.
We need another Katrina
> a group of white residents, convinced that crime would arrive with the human exodus, sought to seal off the area, blocking the roads in and out of the neighborhood by dragging lumber and downed trees into the streets. They stockpiled handguns, assault rifles, shotguns and at least one Uzi and began patrolling the streets in pickup trucks and SUVs. The newly formed militia, a loose band of about fifteen to thirty residents, most of them men, all of them white, was looking for thieves, outlaws or, as one member put it, anyone who simply "didn’t belong."
>evidence indicates, at least eleven people were shot. In each case the targets were African-American men, while the shooters, it appears, were all white.
What's the point of owning guns if you can't shooting motherfuckers in the face when you're getting robbed.
>His name is Trevon
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
>>68224901
So is there a reason you didn't just put all of this in a pastebin or something?
>>68223905
she won't be and if she is she will get off...Florida the best state to uphold personal rights of defending yourself
>>68225070
Castle Doctrine retard. It's Florida she'll get off no problem.
>>68224014
Why would she need to be forgiven for putting up security cameras and racing home when her security system alerted her?
>>68225070
She was black too? Disappointing
>>68223905
>Trevon Johnson was found dead in the home of Liberty City, FL resident retiree Gwendolyn Jenrette.
>>Gwendolyn Jenrette entered her home with her pistol in hand, she encountered Trevon Johnson in her home, 1 shot was fired and police believe that Trevon was attempting to escape Gwendolyn Jenrette, he died from this shot.
FALSE.
She rushed home when alerted of a burglary. She called police and told them she was going to find the thief and kill them. Saw the black kid climbing out the window trying to escape WHEN SHE WAS OUTSIDE HER HOUSE. Went toward the fleeing theif and shot him as he was trying to run away.
The stupid baby boomer bitch should get jail time. You don't kill someone over theft, no matter what backwards low education state your from.
>>68224585
>“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” Harris said. “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
So the only way he got into school was from stealing it all to support his funds? The fuck?
>>68225368
Because her actions caused the death of an unarmed kid.
First some dindu robbed her home. Now some jew lawyer is going to rob her for everything she owns in legal fees. When will the white man rise up and cleanse this country of the jew and nigger plagues?
>>68225436
shut up ugly awkward lanky lonely loser fuckup faggot
>>68225436
>thieves shouldn't be killed
wew
>>68224722
this is irresponsible meme magic. You are reinforcing a meme that's too strong already and shouldn't exist!
>>68223905
There's A LOT more to this story that is simply being left out to incite violence, riots and anti-white rhetoric. His family insists on saying her was a good boy getting his life on track, but at the age of 17 had never obtained employment.
Instead of working for money, he committed felonies to support his Nike and swag habits. He believed he was entitled to prey upon soft targets and steal from them. Both his mother and sister believe he was entitled to do what he was doing without consequence.
This is what happens when you raise idiots with a tarnished spoon in their mouths since birth. Not wealthy by any means but most certainly raised in an environment where welfare, handouts, free roam and no Father are regular occurrences. Entitlement in these communities is ingrained and instilled from birth. It's just normal to them.
The day I turned 14 (legal working age here) I went out and got a job. Worked the same job (delicatessen worker) until I went away to college. I had chores as a child, a curfew, rules and restrictions. Trayvon didn't. He was allowed to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted. This is the price of lazy parenting and ignorance. Plain and simple. Niggers gonna nig.
Guaranteed he grew up watching his mother sit on a sofa yelling at the TV as if it could understand her, watched her have children with multiple men and just lay there watching the freebies flood in.
Fuck niggers. He deserves what happened to him. If that woman gets arrested I'll personally contribute towards her bail or legal fees.
She shot him while he was escaping OUTSIDE her house.
Shes a bloodthirsty cunt who deserves jail time.
>>68224585
>Johnson was a student at D.A. Dorsey Technical College, barely a block away from where he died. He also lived in the same neighborhood, and his cousin said Liberty City shared some blame in his death.
Once again, it's everyone else's fault except for the criminal.
>>68225436
fuck off pussy liberal
all thieves should die
>>68225436
t. cuckold
>>68225436
Why shouldn't you kill a thief? The property they are stealing is worth more than their life
the liberals can kick and scream all they want but no way is that old lady getting charged with anything.
I want to hug grandma "pull the trigger on every nigger" Jenrette
https://youtu.be/5g-nniO1WN4?t=9m32s
>AS HE FLED HER HOME
As much as I enjoy a dead criminal, I have to admit that once the criminal shits his pants and runs for it, the use of lethal force is no longer necessary.
Still though, if the criminal didn't want to get wasted, he shouldn't be breaking into people's homes.
>black crimes matter
>>68224249
I fucking love that they're trying to associate more open carry and "incessent string of mass shootings".
>>68225550
Not an unarmed kid. A criminal, there's a difference.
is there anything leftists wont defens?
>>68225650
Still her property you cuck.
Plus, killing niggers shouldn't be an offence regardless of where it happens.
>>68223905
>Trevon
I read that as Trayvon first.
>>68225965
Our rights
>>68225785
One shot was fired.
She didn't dump the magazine
She didn't use her AR-666 baby hunting rifle with nigger seeking steel incendiary rounds.
She used one shot, she is justified.
>>68225650
No man, if you don't kill the rat, it'll keep coming back.
Everyone knows this. It's why the age old policy is to have robbers killed on sight. That woman probably saved hundreds of people from having their valuables stolen. Perhaps even prevented murders that this punk would probably commit in the future
>>68225785
Sorry nigger. If you break into someone elses property and are caught stealing you reap what you sew. Don't want to get shot? Don't break into someone elses private property with the intent to steal.
>>68224585
Life is short in the world of GTA
>>68225169
HOW HE GON GIT HIS MONEY...MUP DO BIN BUP MUHFUGGEN BIX NOOD
>>68225480
Nigs gotta get dem monies for dem programs *smacks lips* u bee raycis n shiet you syrup-cracka
>>68225785
you do know that niggers like to circle around and come back right? and that niggers love raping and killing old white women
Guns are the only redeeming factor USA has going for it. Yet, they still have some of the highest crime rates in the western world despite all the guns, why is that?
>>68225785
>no longer necessary
Yes it is. Recovering your stolen goods by force is necessary. He didn't have respect when breaking ans entering, tearing her house apart, destroying memories, her sense of safety and emotional well being.
Fuck that nigger and fuck you for having a soft touch. The ONLY thing these people understand is violence as a means of control/law/rules.
It's like having a sweet family dog. You and your wife have a baby, bring it home, dog mauls the baby despite never having bitten anyone before. You remove the animal and put it down. Nothing more, nothin less. Trusting a reactionary animal to act as you desire is just fucking retarded. He didn't learn from any of his punishments before, the dog didn't either. I'm glad she put him down Old Yeller style.
>>68224585
>She and other family members
Dam where they gonna git money fo cable tv now.
>>68225436
But if you don't kill thieves they will continue stealing
>>68224014
Why the fuck shouldn't she? He could have who knows what in his pockets and that shit will never be returned to her if he gets away
>>68226138
Black people, my nuclear friend
>>68224722
i bet he was an aspiring rap artist and was just about to sign with a small label in between his classes for HVAC at his university
>>68226270
Don't forget about Cholos.
>>68224249
>“I don’t care if she have her gun license, her rights or any of that. That is way beyond
>I don't care if she has the right
Niggers in a nutshell
>>68226270
Yeah but normal Americans should be able to defend themselves from criminals because of guns right?
>>68225550
His actions put her in that situation. He chose to break into someone else's house, he chose to risk injury, death or incarceration if caught. Don't act like he was some victim too stupid to realize that people are going to defend their shit. He knew exactly what would happen if he was caught and he chose to do it anyway. He chose to risk his life and his freedom in order to steal.
But you will keep on believing that they are always the victims of their own poor choices. You'll keep acting like they aren't smart enough to understand consequences and are simply too poor to realize that stealing is wrong. You'll make any excuse so that this kid is not a bad guy. Because of the color of his skin.
And you think that you aren't racist.
>>68226138
You already have the truth in your heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7YsrcuJPxY
>>68223905
Of course it's everyone's fault but the person who thought it would be a good idea to rob and burgle.
I love how liberals think that you need to men not to rape, but you have take responsibility if your house gets burgled.
>>68225436
Why do you want to see this woman of color sent to prison?
>>68225580
>>68225618
>>68225717
>>68225726
>>68225727
>>68225888
You people are so out of touch with reality and normal reasoning it's hilarious. This is the thought process of sheep. Congratulations on being the useful idiots of current times.
>>68226157
Agree with this 100%
>>68223905
She should be awarded a medal.
>Gwendolyn Jenrette
Is she also black?
>>68224014
>She lives in Liberty City
I thought it was Vice City that was in miami :^)
As far as I'm concerned, if you break into someone else's home, and they catch you, then you forfeit your life. Nobody deserves to feel unsafe in their own home, and everybody has the right to defend themselves in their own home even with deadly force.
>Florida
>Castle doctrine/stand your ground
no, she should not be charged
Why is this an issue?
>>68226392
Areas with large amounts of blacks tend to also have heavy gun control laws (Jew York City, Detroit, Chicago) or effeminate fucking men who couldn't hurt anybody but themselves. So as a result, people don't carry guns.
But if they try this shit in places like Maine, New Hampshire, Texas, or Arizona (to name a few), They get their shit pushed in by the defending parties bullet of choice
>>68226561
>As far as I'm concerned, if you break into someone else's home, and they catch you, then you forfeit your life
As far as I'm concerned you are a complete idiot then
>>68226548
They never said she was white, and the house was two blacks from where the dindu lived.
So yes.
>>68224249
>That is way beyond the law,
Doesn't Florida has castle doctrine ? Break in get shot
>>68224585
>how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?
>how he gonna afford the newest $300 pair of nikes every two months while maintaining an opiate addiction
>>68223905
that could have been oburma's son ;_;
>>68226641
oy vey
>>68226638
Any fucking worthless nigger breaking into anyone's house has no future and deserves to die
>>68226638
>condoning felonious behavior
Get a job.
>>68225785
He was shot in the chest you fucking idiot
>>68226471
>useless idiots
Yes, these worthless niggers getting shot for committing crimes are going to set a precedent that allows the government to take over and murder any dissenters
What in the fuck are you people on?
>>68223905
that's the stoner look if I've ever seen one
We probably wouldn't hear about this story if the lady was black.
In fact, how often do you think this shit happens in the hood? Shooting at a nigga breaking out of their house
>>68225650
Plz be b8.... if not, plz move to Sweden or England, anywhere besides my beloved country you revolting fucking puke....
So if i rape your wife and shoot my load all over her fat cheeto laden face, i'm good to go so long as I step outside of your home?
Die in a fire.
>>68226567
You are a fucking idiot. You still have to justify the murder you moron. Meaning why did she shoot a fleeing thief and was it justified.
>muh castle doctrine
This is why this country is so shit now. It's because idiots like you that have no clue what they are talking about say stupid shit without knowing even basic law. Congratulation you made yourself look like an idiot on /pol/ while trying to fit in with all the other sheep.
>>68224249
What is stand your ground law for 500.
>>68227033
>shot in chest
>fleeing
>"murder"
>>68224585
>You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?
this fucking kills me
>>68225436
if only it had been you who was shot, faggot.
>>68224937
Warning shots are illegal uez.
If you pull your weapon and fire a warning shot, it means you knew your life wasn't in sufficient danger to the point where you even needed to pull it.
They teach you this in concealed carry class. The obvious effect is protect yourself legally: if you pull it make sure you aim to kill.
Liberals don't understand second order of effects.
>>68224249
>“I don’t care if she have her gun license, her rights or any of that. That is way beyond the law,” Johnson’s cousin Nautika Harris told CBS Miami. “Way beyond.”
>I dont care about her rights
Obviously Trevon didn't either, as he was breaking the law
>>68227033
>You still have to justify the murder you moron.
NO, YOU DO NOT
look up the law. If there is an intruder in your house, you are protected and have the right to use deadly force. There's no documentation. There's no investigation. The police see that Trayvon Gibsmedat was in her house, they see the broken window, they listen to her story, and they close the case.
Go look up castle doctrine and then don't reply because you'll be too embarrassed. This is not even exclusive to Florida, you fucking idiot cuck. I live in a state with laws just like this. IT'S NOT MURDER. It's not even manslaughter. YOU CANNOT BE CHARGED.
Why is it they always make up stories like: 'He loved education, he had to clothe himself, look at it from the hoodperspective'.
If he loved education then he should be smart enough to learn that breaking and entering is a criminal offense. Which means he made the concious choice to burglarize her home. He chose to be a criminal and should've thought about the possible consequences.
The comment that bothers me most is the fact that his sister(?) said he didn't know any better, because he is from the hood.
I'm not someone who blatantly says negroids deserve to die, but what exempts hoodlums from the law? Even if you're from the hood you are supposed to have at least a little bit of a moral code and be a decent human being. Everytime a situation like this happens i see the other hoodlums defend criminal acts. What made the western world so weak to defend criminal acts just because they are afraid to be called racist.
You break the law, then be prepared to carry the consequences. If my brother decide to do this and got shot in the process i wouldn't defend him. Act like a rabbid animal, get treated like one.
yes. you can't just shoot somebody like that. if that kid was white she would not have shot him. she also disobeyed orders from the dispatcher.
>>68224965
Florida has that castle law dictating that if anyone is on your property and breaks in they are pretty much free game to absolutely fuck up.
It's a great law.
>>68225436
>Gwendolyn Jenrette
is she black too
>>68227166
DEY WUZ GUD BOYZ, TRYNA GED MUN-E FER SKOOL N SHEIT.
>>68225436
>You don't kill someone over theft
fuck yes, you do.
>>68224585
>“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” Harris said. “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
>It's okay to steal if you're trying to pay for education that you cannot afford
>>68225436
What do you think would have happened if she was home and not within reach of her pistol? Trevon would have caved her head in. Anyone home invader should be regarded as a potential murderer.
>>68227328
the elderly woman is black too.
BAN HIGH AGE ASSUALT LADIES
>>68227328
Dispatcher can't give orders.
>>68227328
>dispatcher
>authority
>>68224249
>Nautika
Dindu names are like magic.
>>68227328
>disobeyed orders from a dispatcher
>cops are all evil racists who kill innocent St. Mike Browns and Obama's sons.
Dispatchers just give advice to keep you safe, they can't order you to do shit.
>>68227285
>invite you to my house
>you get to my house
>instantly tell that you aren't allowed on my property anymore
>shoot you in the head
>police ask what happened
>muh castle doctrine
>oh ok
This is what you think you idiot.
>>68226392
The majority of gun violence deaths, excluding suicide, are blacks killing blacks.
White gun violence rates are comparable to any European country
>>68227411
Shh, don't remind these idiots that Arabs and Africans chop hands off for stolen bread in their countries.
>>68227328
lol, nice
Zimzam was acquitted though. This woman won't even be brought to trial because white people have too much sense to call it racism.
>>68225650
>treyvon escapes the house
>he's now running away
>he climbs through a window
>she draws her assault-style handgun and shoots him in the back, execution-style
How do you regressive racists actually defend this??
>>68225436
Wrong. You stamp out that degenerate behavior.
>>68224585
>You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view
How about he starts working for that ?
God dammit it's florida it must be 80°F all year round. Buy 10 shorts and 10 tee shirts for 50€ and you're set for a year you fucking nigger.
>>68227505
>going to someones home who you don't trust
>>68227505
>strawman
Not an argument you cuck.
>>68227309
>Why is it they always make up stories like: 'He loved education, he had to clothe himself, look at it from the hoodperspective'.
You would think they would not be able to say that with a straight face, but then again I think niggers simply don't understand the concept of "truth" or "justice". Whatever they want to be true, is, from their simian perspective.
>>68225195
>that guy with the revolver
no really im not an amerishot does the longer barrel actually do anything?
>>68227594
ohhhh. Please sir tell me how this doesn't apply? Hmmmm. I'll be waiting for your intellectual reply. This time without buzzwords that don't even apply
>>68227530
Actually they are higher but average white american violence rates are the same. This proves even more that guns are irrelevants
>>68227606
More accuracy at longer ranges
>>68227606
yes.
>Be black guy
>Break into someone's house
>Could be to steal, could be to murder, could be both
>Get shot by homeowner
>Liberals will defend me
FEELS GOOD TO BE BLACK
>>68227541
>assault-style handgun
kek
>>68227606
higher muzzle velocity and accuracy
>>68227606
If it's a very high caliber (like the S&W 500) you're going indeed to have a long barrel.
A long barrel is a trade off convenience and manoeuvrability for accuracy
>>68224585
>very big on education, loved learning.
The fuck was he learning? How to dindu 101?
>>68227734
That's what I thought. Get embarrassed for the 3rd time by me in this thread, and infront of all your sheep friends too. The useful idiots everyone.
>>68226138
Most percentage of niggers
>>68223905
>was attempting to escape the elderly woman
>while robbing her
>in her own home
The funny thing is that the conservative and liberal trolls paint this woman as a white person to fit their agenda, not knowing Liberty City is all black part of Miami, easily the blackest major neighborhood in Miami.
Conservatives want it to be a white woman so it can be viewed as a white killing a nigger and liberals want her to be white so they can push the good boi narrative
I would be utterly and completely shocked if this woman was white
>>68223905
>Trevon Johnson
>Trevon
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING.
>>68225436
>She rushed home when alerted of a burglary.
>She called police and told them she was going to find the thief and kill them.
>Saw the black kid climbing out the window trying to escape WHEN SHE WAS OUTSIDE HER HOUSE.
>Went toward the fleeing theif and shot him as he was trying to run away.
BASED GRANDMA
I think she deserves a medal.
Acted like an animal, got put down like one. God bless Florida.
>>68227033
What law did Gwendolyn break? She broke now laws. Why should she be punished? She did nothing wrong. If you disagree with the laws applicable here, write your representative, or run for office yourself and change it as you see fit.
>>68225480
>How else he gon git his monies? Don't be raysis, anon..
Its *current year* for Travon's sake...
>>68227505
But that's not what fucking happened. Did you even read the article? Her security system alerted her of a break-in. They don't need to ask her questions about this. Red states take property rights very seriously. If somebody breaks into your house you are a sick murderer for protecting it.
All of the details she gave the police will be documented anyway. They'll be able to see that she got a text from the security system, or however that works. They'll be able to see the damage from the kid breaking and entering. There will be a trail to follow. It's not the fucking middle ages where you need hundreds of witnesses standing around to know that something happened.
Why do you want to keep calling me an idiot for this? You act like you live in California and are underage and have no idea states like Florida exist.
http://fox2now.com/2015/10/06/missouri-man-twice-protected-by-castle-doctrine-in-killings/
The people defending the nigger ape are truly delusional cucks. I hope you get robbed and open your anus so the thief can fuck you in the ass as well you fucking faggots.
If you don't want to get killed, how about don't try to rob a house you fucking dumb apes. I hope some dindu nuffin tries to rob my house so I can shoot him straight in the fucking dome. Thank you Texas Castle law.
>>68227599
If they can't grasp the concept of justice they aren't any different from small children. You don't listen to children when making choices, because they don't know what's best for them. Still the western society insists on listening to these people and actually value their opinion more, because the colour of their skin.
It can't just be me, but isn't this ridiculous? I can't imagine thinking like these people do, what goes on in their mind to be so backwards. I know degeneracy is a 'meme-term' on /pol/, but i'm talking about it like Galton. It looks like the human race will degenerate/already is degenerating by just valueing these people's opinion above those of people who actually care about society.
>>68227852
She's black. Considering the regularity, I don't know why this even made the news actually.
>>68223905
nigger family should have paid for the bullet wasted on their son
case closed
>>68227852
I'm just glad a criminal got what was coming to him. The lady could be an Ethiopian bushnig for all I care.
>>68227825
Not an argument.
>>68224663
>"What's wrong with her?"
Absolutely nothing. Thugs who steal deserve to be shot. It's a good warning to all the other people out there that we're not just going to stand by while the PC police defend these dindus.
Sooo...dindu is shot by a (most likely black) woman in a state where she's completely within her rights to do so.
Working as intended.
>>68227944
The Right to Life. Maybe you should study up more on USA laws and Rights.
>>68223905
we got fresh nuffins
>>68227985
>>68223905
Castle Doctrine prevents legal action from the defendant. Why the fuck is this an issue? Florida has the most leeway out of any other state in terms of self defense and protection of one's property. If a nigger breaks into your house it's fair game.
>>68227855
Best tweet ever
So as long as you don't shoot someone in the back you're fine with self-defence? So let's say I see someone in my house stealing shit, I tell them to freeze, tell them to turn around, I can then ventilate them?
>>68226392
Its also fairly hard to get guns in some places. Guns cost a bit of money, with the cheapest decent ones being $500+ for a handgun. Ammo is expensive too, because of the government artificially raising prices. Plus licensing fees depending on the state, and additional fees to carry the weapon concealed. W/o concealed carry, it has to be like John Wayne on your hip.
But two people going to the range to practice for an hour or two can be like $150 in range fees and ammo. How many times does one need to practice before being ready to defending their home. Gotta make sure you kill the intruder so theirs only one side to the story, otherwise it gets really messy.
How do Iranians get on 4chan? I thought it was blocked nationwide in Iran?
>>68226567
They don't use this law everywhere?
I thought it went without saying if you have guns then you have the right to defend your property
Liberals have no regard for an elderly woman whose probably going to be traumatized
If it was a white male and a black woman they'd be calling for the rope if he wasn't already dead
>>68225436
because you witnessed the whole thing? right tyrone?
>>68228122
Is that what you do in between bull-prepping sessions?
>>68228122
>right to life
Which is negated when you infringe on other people's 'right to life'
>>68228122
The Right to Life is a Catholic pro-life political group you ignoramus.
>>68228067
he literally can't comprehend red state laws
>muh investigation
like nigger, George Zimmerman was never even arrested until the media made it into a controversy
>>68228122
I am. I am asking you what law she broke. According to Florida law, applicable there at that time, she was justified in shooting the intruder. The law doesn't forbid this, why do you? With what authority do you forbid it?
>>68228203
if u think u got the stones
>>68226548
Gwendolyn is a Welsh name so it's unlikely
C'mon fellow britbong you should know this
>>68225436
Someone post the "Trayvon: The movie" vocaroo
>>68228122
>right to life
Not even trying anymore. lol
>>68227606
>Being this fucking ignorant.
>>68223905
No. People who rob and loot other people's homes deserve the bullets that get fired into their bodies.
>>68228369
Bitch, black folks do cultural appropriation like no other.
>>68228203
>The Florida "Castle Doctrine" law basically does three things:
>One: It establishes, in law, the presumption that a criminal who forcibly enters or intrudes into your home or occupied vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, therefore a person may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against that person.
>Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. [This is an American right repeatedly recognized in Supreme Court gun cases.]
>Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force.
If somebody breaks into your home, you're protected. Obviously you can't torture them or anything like that, but if you shoot somebody in the back or front, you will not be punished for it.
>>68228305
He's trolling or just plain stupid. Don't waste your time.
>>68228122
Right to life means right to keep yourself alive.
>>68228217
>I thought it went without saying if you have guns then you have the right to defend your property
It doesn't work like this in Britain mate.
If you have a gun and you discharge it, you must have a valid reason for doing so - like your life was in immediate danger, protecting property is NOT a valid reason.
Also, shooting somebody in the back, as they are escaping is not good, you would face charges for that.
In this particular instance, the woman disregarded a request to stay away . . . .this is an 'iffy' case but my bet is, she would have to face a court to justify her actions.
>>68224901
>But Florida law goes far beyond this “Stand Your Ground” law, which became the focal point in the 2012 shooting of another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in Sanford, Fla.
>Instead, in Florida, anybody who “unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.”
>That means that homeowners are presumed to have “reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another” whenever someone “unlawfully and forcefully” enters their house, essentially giving homeowners broad license to shoot at intruders.
How is this in anyway bad? Do people really expect you to wait and see if a burglar is going to hurt you before you can shoot him?
Leftists are truly insane.
>>68223905
>Miami woman killed a burglar
Give her a medal
>>68228485
On the small chance he's plain stupid, I want to help him. Don't you care about your fellow man?
>>68228122
>Jump off the 10th floor
>Die on impact
>Your family sue the city because you had the right to life and the pavement killed you
What's the latin motto for that ? You don't have the entitlement for the product of your crimes or something like that. It's not your victim role to protect your
>>68225436
>You don't kill someone over theft
Sure you do
That's the one thing all those third world shitholes got right
>>68223905
>Liberty City
>>68228122
Yes, that's what SYG is all about. The defender has a right to defend their life.
>>68228207
https isn't blocked for some reason.
You'd think a country so big on guns would make it cheap to learn how to use and maintain one so that everyone could benefit from them.
>>68228545
exactly
If anything, laws like this shoulder further discourage burglaries.
>>68228542
>disregarded a request to stay away
Disregarding the call-takers at dispatch isn't an actionable offense.
State law already says she's protected, explicitly.
>>68228582
Caveat emptor.
>>68224937
Not even that, just claim "I feared for my life" he was in her home despite headlines. Reason why castle doctrine is a thing, some one could steal personal info and fuck your life up, the lady did good.
>>68227309
News agencies need to start taking responsibility for this, its a victim/persecuted complex that makes people feel entitled and in the right no matter their actions. Look at all these protest right now.
I used to work with Native Americans, statistically they are even more "persecuted" than black people but their numbers are low so no one cares.
>>68227033
>in Florida “anybody who ‘unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.’”
>>68228619
Okay.
>>68227505
>>68227033
>>68226638
>>68226471
>>68225550
>>68225436
>>68226471
>>68226638
>>68227505
>>68227674
>>68227825
NATO ID for the dindu defender.
>>68228542
>She would be acquitted of any wrong doing..
USA.
>>68227505
>Self-Defense laws as seen by liberals.
>>68228601
And it's just as crime-ridden as you imagine it'd be.
Funny how analogous it is, I can't be too certain about the slav situation though.
>>68225436
>You don't kill someone over theft
guess again
>>68228724
WEW
>>68228601
AYOO COUSIN LET'S GO EAT CHICKEN
>>68228542
m8 you can't even get a kitchen knife in England without 10 forms of identification and a letter of recommendation from your bull. Things work differently here.
>>68227505
NIDF GTFO
>>68227333
You have to be in the house when they break in, you can't rush to your house after its broken into and shoot anyone who is inside.
>>68228248
I love interracial 1v1 fights. Notice how Bubba didn't jump in to help his friend, the pit fighter? Notice how the sensible nigger didn't get involved when you could tell the dindu who STARTED the fight was already lights out. Notice how the paki cashier just made sure nobody died on the property?
The shit that infuriates me is all those 3+v1 fights where you see bands of gorillas bearing up on people.
>>68228845
Don't be stupid.
>>68225436
>baby boomer bitch
Leftist numale detected.
>>68223905
Why do I never hear about white teens getting shot for B&E's? Either the media doesn't give a fuck, or whites don't do it. Either way, I can't take this media double-speak bullshit anymore.
They can't have it both ways. Either they admit there is no racism and shit happens to whites just as often, or they stand by their assertion that it's always blacks getting shot by people, and they that is of course because blacks are almost always the ones doing to the burglarizing/theft/robberies
>>68228881
>you have to be in the house when they break in
What makes you think this?
>>68223905
Rush Limbaugh couldn't believe that story. He talked about it on Wednesday and Thursday.
>>68228808
>"COUSIN! IT'S ME, YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO ROB A HOUSE. I KNOW AN OLD LADY WHO IS HARMLESS! IT WILL BE EASY COUSIN! WHAT DO YOU SAY?"
>>68228572
>Don't you care about your fellow man?
Once upon a time, yes I did.
>>68228542
>protecting property is NOT a valid reason.
It is in Florida.
>>68226471
>>68226638
How can you defend someone who got intent to harm ! For fuck sake, I know that you're pretty secure with mommy and daddy backing you up but for certain person what they have is what they have, and they certainly don't deserve to lose it because some asshole cannot control his antisocial behavior.
I'm a working poor, being poor do NOT warrant crime, fuck off you sheltered faggot. Any person willing to take the risk of breaking the law accept the risk he'll get fucked up.
>>68228947
>Why do I never hear about white teens getting shot for B&E's?
there was actually a case where a guy shot two white teenagers who broke into his house, but it was determined that he planned the whole thing so he was sentenced to prison
>>68228975
kek, perfect
>>68228881
Why?
Also why are you making up laws and shit about laws that you know nothing about?
>>68225186
He was pronounced at the hospital, not at the home.
>>68225436
I disagree, she has all the rights in the US to shoot him if she found him inside her home, on top of that, stealing.
Guarantee you he made a choice in his head and said "Fuck that old woman, Im gonna rob her, she won't do anything."
He was on his way from church, lookin' for a job, and accidentally went into the wrong house -- thinking it was his home.
After checking the mail to see if his acceptance into Harvard had come in, this MANIAC wielding a gun decided he was too dark for her liking.
Another chocolate soul taken from this world. She should be ashamed of her actions and put away for life.
>>68226638
>It's alright to prey a frail old women.
>>68228572
There's no cure for his level of stupid, it's a lost cause
>>68227328
i can tell you've led a sheltered life so just to clue you in police dispatchers do not issue orders with legally binding force they simply offer recommendations
>>68224901
>Florida law also provides homeowners who shoot intruders with sweeping protections
Guys I think I found a solution....
Stop breaking into other people's houses
>Trevon
Can we legally ban this name from being used? Name one "Tray-von" that has done anything for the good of society.
>>68227606
gives the bullet more time to speed up, leading to more accuracy and power
Though personally I'd go with lighter weight over accuracy
>>68227217
This reads like an episode from the boondocks where lemilten beats up his grandma for not buying him fried chicken and she says "you have to understand, he really likes fried chicken"
As always, straight up retards defending B&E. Someone is in your house stealing your shit, you have the right to protect your property by shooting them. 100%
The idea that it's somehow okay for some shit heel to walk in your home, steal your property for the asinine logic that, "the obviously need it more than you do" is a fault in your community and logic.
You do not have a right to someone else's property because you want it. If anything, I hope there is such a thing as the "thief gene", so we can eventually correct such childish, ape like behavior.
Fucking sub humans.
This is going to be Zimmerman 2.0 at this rate.
>Only this time it really WILL be about SYG.
Either way, she still walks.
>>68223905
>A Miami woman killed a teen burglar as he fled her home.
>Should she be charged
Getting your pronouns confused there, but no, I don't think it's reasonable to charge a dead person, even a burglar.
>>68229022
>being poor do NOT warrant crime
American leftists just can't understand this
>muh poor disenfranchised youth, muh generational poverty, muh how else is he supposed to survive?
>respond by saying whites have more in poverty than the entire black race in America so why doesn't white crime dominate all the statistics?
>*crickets*
It truly is a willingness to not accept reality as it really is. Leftism is a mental illness.
>>68223905
>1 shot
based grandma
>>68227328
Would you listen to medical advice from an emergency dispatcher?
>>68228369
I'm not British desu
>>68224965
From the legal standpoint in Florida, which is what matters here, she was perfectly justified.
>>68228776
Damn. Trump even takes time out of his busy schedule to help faggots find their way to the gloryhole. What a boss.
>>68229097
You have to ask too what would have happened if she had had kids who were left inside the house while she was away.
Really I'm kind of raging with this liberal ITT. Trevon found a rough fate, but he made a rough, garbage decision.
I'm so sure that his parents will somehow blame white people and Florida state law instead of fighting for the conditions that would prevent shit like this from happening in the first place. Like securing Trevon some skills and self-discipline so that he doesn't steal or commit crimes to get the things he wants.
>>68228542
florida is a state that even has alligator laws.
ie. if you feel something is threatening, you can whip out you gun and open carry, just in case.
>>68224965
>Brighter Teeth™ is trying to tell my how the laws in my country works.
>>68226471
lol? stop projecting urself there m8
Reading the whining Britshit and a couple of libcucks, I am glad I live in a State with uncucked defense and use of force laws.
>>68229187
not that guy, but I feel like I'm the only person ITT who could tell it was sarcasm
he was alluding to the Trayvon-George Zimmerman fiasco
>>68228587
hell there are literal wars over this. large scale but theft is theft.
>>68223905
Florida has castle laws. Next case
Does anyone know for a fact that she is white? I haven't seen any pictures of her, and if she were white the media all over the world would be shouting about it.
>>68227505
That's not the same thing at all.
The police would then have records of your invitation. They would be able to tell that the entry to your property wasn't forced. They would be able to tell based on ballistics and range that you executed this person.
You're making out like the authorities can't distinguish between a break in and a cold blooded pre-meditated murder. They can.
But again, the liberal mentality about guns in a nutshell: 'Your laws are wrong because if I had weapons I could just kill whoever I wanted and get away with it'... Projecting your own psychopathic desires onto normal people.
>>68229325
that's unknown at this point
>>68229246
Don't be silly, even if it was with a gun, it was still a woman. They're not going to cry the house down about a female shooting anybody.
he jus a yung boi
all he life ahead uh heem
>>68228652
That's how it used to be.
The "suburban-izing" of American culture meant that more people moved k to cloistered cities. That meant you couldn't take grandpa's rifle down and practice shooting at a hay bale or the barn. Then schools dropped civics courses and cities began to ban gun ownership, or hike the price of ammunition up, or incentivize turning in your guns for cash. People began to look at guns as symbols of hate or murder instead of what they are, tools to be utilized by trained individuals for very specific tasks. Now if you're some kid growing up in a big city you're taught whatever propaganda about guns the school system decides and you've probably never even see a gun besides movies, seems simple to just get rid of them all and demonize gun owners, right?
>>68228652
you'd think
Instead we're too busy letting you go nuclear to evaporate the rest of the middle east for us.
Thanks for that, btw
>>68229359
I was actually replying to the Brit.
But just out of interest, she did knowingly walk into a potentially threatening situation?
It could be argued that this situation was of her own design.
>>68223905
>the police dispatcher told her not to do that
The dispatcher always tells you to do nothing, and has no authority over anything anyway
>>68229258
no, they respond with "systemic racism™ forced him to."
>>68223905
DINDU NUFFIN
YALL CRACKS DUNNO HOW IT BE HEAR ON DA STREETS NIGGA DIS NIGGA WAS JUST OUT DER TRYNA EARN DAT PAPER NIGGA WHITE CRACKAS BE KEEPIN DIS NIGGA DOWN ALL HIS LYFE NOW YALL GONE AND KILT HIM #BLM
>>68229486
>Black > Women
You didn't account for the liberal scale of victimhood.
Similar thing happened in Texas, 2 idiots from my class went into a rich neighborhood and tried to rob a house, what they didn't know is an ex marine lived there. He shot them twice, injuring one and completely turning the other one into some sort of double face freak, his whole left side of his face paralyzed. And guess what happened? Nothing.
The kids parents didn't try to sue the marine or the state because they knew their kid fucked up and could have easily lost his life.
Pro tip: Don't rob someone elses house if you are not prepared to pay with your life for it.
>>68225169
>How he gon gat dat money to Dem education programz and school books
Education programs=Jordans
School books=weed
you have to ask yourself if she wasn't armed would the nigger have attacked her. you bet your ass he would have,
>Call cops for help
>Refuse to do as they say and go in armed
>Shoot someone who's fucking running away from you
I am an objective person and I cannot defend this dumb shit.
>>68223905
another dindu is made good
>>68224663
>Vaughan
>Nisha
>Trevon
>Nautika
those are some low-lvl dindu names.
I've expected more, like Le-a (dash don't be silent).
>>68223905
HOW HE POSSED TO FORD CLOTHES N SHIET?!
HE GHETTO. GOIN COLLEGE N SHIET. TURNIN HEEZ LYF ROUND
>>68223905
if the burglar was shot in the front then no she shouldent be charged
if he was shot in the back then yes
>>68229581
Haven't you seen the tumblr flowchart of privilege, where straight white women are more oppressed than gay black men?
>>68229617
fuck off nigger lover. it hasn't been confirmed that he was running away
>>68225436
>You don't kill someone over theft
Shooting robbers in your home is a good deterrent to other potential thieves.
>>68229542
No duty to retreat in Florida.
>>68228881
>arrive home
>dindu waiting for you in the living room
>dont shoot him cause "no castle law valid arriving home" so he takes his own gun and shoots you down
Stop being an idiot, in Florida if there is someone in your property you have every legal ground to shoot them down.
Also, the lady who shot the nigger was black. She'll be acquitted of every charge.
>>68229258
I am a leftist and I do think being poor results in more of an inclination to criminality. However unlike the guy the Frenchman is responding to, or his strawman or whatever, I don't think that's any reason to excuse it.
Occupational hazards and consequence are something people always accept. Even in a black market or in doing crime. Dindus understand the possible consequences for the crimes they're committing but they do them anyway, because personally the benefit of stealing or selling drugs outweighs the consequence (prison time or death). It's surely not a simple thing to explain. It might be that the quality of life is poor, but it might also be a social conditioning exclusive to the black community.
Anyway regardless of what I'm saying, Florida has this traditional castle doctrine law, the residents more than likely all know and understand, and Trevon Martin knew that he was signing up for this. It's tragic but there are a lot of variables that could have changed to keep it from happening. I mean, the fucking kid is 17 and gets to wander around the streets unsupervised. I didn't have shitty parents like that, and I never ended up in jail or getting jumped or having guns pointed at me.
>>68229450
She lives in a 94% black area in a duplex that backs up to railroad tracks.
If she's white, she's doing it wrong.
>>68228947
It happens, especially in poor white communities here in the South and Midwest that have been hit with meth.
However, the families of the burglar are usually so ashamed, they never even talk about it with anyone, let alone go on the news and just spew bullshit.
>>68224585
> “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?
>>68227811
jesus christ it is literally the same bullshit coverup story each time
>he a good boy
>he getting his life together
>he was learning n shit
>applied for college
>was on his way to church
>stumbled and fell through a window
>got shot by home owner
>dindu nuffin
>>68224249
>“I don’t care if she have her gun license, her rights or any of that."
>but he have da rite to be robbin shit yo
>>68223905
>homeowner got there faster than the police
Perhaps if cops spent more time ensuring a good patrol coverage and tracking down criminals and less time fining motorists for going slightly over the speed limit this would not have happened.
>>68229681
A thief has zero value as a human being and any virtuous human would put them down on sight. It sounds like you're not very tolerant of the Islamic culture you fucking bigot.
>>68228427
We're not all redneck CoDbabbies, America.
>>68225436
>You don't kill someone over theft
Yes, yes you do. I have ZERO problems with a someone blowing the brains out of a thief while the thief is committing a crime OR FLEEING from it.
>Trevon
Hue
>>68229729
I'm not a nigger lover you emotional retard. Its clear he was running away otherwise there would have been a struggle mentioned. Its either fight or flight and he clearly didn't do anything to the woman.
I don't need a news site to confirm something logical to me.
>>68225650
Cheers for her for killing the nigger
>>68229617
Where did you get the information that he was shot (presumably in the back) as he ran away? I know you wouldn't just make it up, right?
>>68227855
Why did his account get shut down?
>>68229965
>implying two seconds of physics education wouldn't lead anyone to the right conclusion
British education, everyone.
>>68229585
Where at? Were they black?
>>68229762
agreed all around
here is the problem with the media. every black person is a respectable member of society and can do no wrong
in reality, the woman is probably a normal respectable person
the dead nigger is just that. a nigger. a piece of scummy thug trash. white, black, asian, hispanic, doesnt matter. still nigger scum
>>68227505
Don't worry about it queer bait you don't have nice Things, friends, or go outside you'll be fine
>>68230087
How many guns do you own?
>>68229856
good point. that plus the lack of press interest == not white.
>>68230136
>inb4 you're trying to make a hillbilly joke
Exactly zero. I served in the military like a patriot. Maybe you should do your patriotic duty and bow to Mecca again.
>>68227033
>You still have to justify the murder
not a murder
>>68229617
You do not seem very objective.
What if she shot because he wouldn't stop ? Do you think the cops would have got him ?
It's one bullet, one, fucking, shot, if there was a clear intent to kill she would have magdumped.
Unless she's some ex-cia.
"Oh no someone died ! my feelings are hurt by this losse of human life yet i'm objective"
>>68230087
>Not asking for the answer
>deciding you know better even when you know nothing
American education everyone
>>68229617
the people who answer 911 calls are not cops
They tell you to stand back and hide because they're trained to. The idea is that if you confront somebody, you will be hurt.
Maybe you think the whole situation is unethical and crazy because they don't have guns in your Islamo-cucked country, but you have to defend the integrity of law. This woman is defended by the law, and the age and race of this kid do not change that.
>>68229992
clearly you are. you are defending a nigger without out all the evidence.
she shot a criminal in her home is all we know an in Florida that is not a crime.
>>68229886
You obviously have never seen how Floridians drive.
>>68229992
How is "someone is in my house stealing my things" not s logical reason to shoot them over? Do you not work and pay for your things?
Even so, it makes you foolish. When can I come over? I'm hungry and have no cellphone. Let me come over and use your stuff,
No I don't have a job don't you trigger me, now go to work me and your wife have a date tonight
>>68225436
>he was climbing out while she was outside
so, he was coming TOWARD her? that makes it even more clearly self defense
>>68223905
sounds like that nigger deserved it
>>68224663
>“What’s wrong with her?” Johnson’s sister, Nisha Johnson, told CBS. “She did not have to shoot him.”
This Negress has a good point. What Gwendolyn should have done is open with some quick combos while wearing him down with legs kicks. Then she should put Trevon in a Thai clench and follow up with a flying knee. When he goes down, she should have gotten a full mount and done some ground and pound. Once she passes Trevon's guard, she should take side control and throw some knees. When Trevon tries to get up, Gwendolyn should take his back and rear-naked choke him, putting the hooks in so he can't escape.
TLDR, there is no reason why Gwendolyn needs a gun to defend herself.
>>68230087
>>implying two seconds of physics education wouldn't lead anyone to the right conclusion
>implying most people even know that bullets are not propelled by an explosion but by the process of the hot gasses released by the burning gunpowder pushing the bullet from the barrel
If you know that's how it works, it seems obvious that more barrel means more room for the powder to burn, and thus more velocity. But most people don't actually know (or care for that matter) how bullets are propelled.
>>68230269
>glossing over the obvious to sound like Jon Oliver
gipsy teenagers bashed the head of an elderly woman in, with a hammer, recently, in her home
at least american laws are working
maybe this kid didn't deserve to die, but shit happens, like your dog get shot if it attacks a police officer
>>68229836
> I mean, the fucking kid is 17 and gets to wander around the streets unsupervised. I didn't have shitty parents like that
What the hell, how old were you exactly before being allowed to be outside without your mummy to hold your hand?
>>68223905
You forefit your right to life when you threaten someone else's.
Don't want to get shot, don't be an agressor.
>>68230377
>He doesn't know how open bolt AKs work...
No, SOME rifles work off gas pressure. Some work from recoil.
Come the fuck on... is everyone outside of the US a fucking retard today or what?
>>68229617
>>Call cops for help
>>Refuse to do as they say and go in armed
911 operators are not cops, and have no authority over your actions.. Especially not if that action is ENTERING YOUR OWN FUCKING HOUSE.
>>Shoot someone who's fucking running away from you
Has not been confirmed.
>I am an objective person and I cannot defend this dumb shit.
You're just British.
>>68230358
SHE SHOULDA CAPTURED HIM IN A BIG NET!
>>68225436
spelled you are from or you're from dumb nigger. and we been killing people for theft a long time
>>68229617
Right because the bitch making 12 an hour in an office building 2 hours away knows what's best for you during a life or death event through a phone call
Jesus you're such a mouth breathing delusional fuck
This sickens me. It's the current year and niggers still don't have the right to burglarize people without the fear of being shot.
I hope Bernie Sanders gets elected so that these racists will have to attend weekly BLM meetings and have their property culturally enriched at least once a month.
new thread!
new thread!
new thread1
jk.
>>68230437
>No, SOME rifles work off gas pressure. Some work from recoil.
You're talking about the cycling of a semi-automatic firearm. I was talking about the bullets being propelled in any given firearm, but specifically the long-barreled revolver that that one anon asked about.
>Come the fuck on... is everyone outside of the US a fucking retard today or what?
No, just you...
>>68230230
well if the intent was to kill it was a murder
if not its manslaugther wich is pretty damn close to murder
>>68230414
How are you gonna try to make fun of me because I didn't wander the streets like a stray? I was working a job and studying for the SAT. I would tell her before I went somewhere because she was worried about her kid. That's what white parenting is like in this country. If I lied to her and something bad happened to me, it would be my fault.
>>68230393
do gypsies ever get hurt by normal people?
>>68230358
>Teleport behind Trevon
>pull out out my Katana
>slice both his achilles tendons
nothing personel kid, but you won't be playing basketball ever again
>>68225436
To be fair, not even muslims kill thieves. Don't they just chop off a hand or something?
>>68230582
it's not manslaughter either if she's protected by stand your ground
>>68230306
Of course not. From what I understand the entire peninsula is about to dissolve and fall into the ocean, why would I go anywhere near the place.
>>68230437
>>68230579
Oh, and by the way... AKs do not fire from an open bolt as far as I know. Most select-fire service rifles don't, as they're mostly meant to fire semi-auto. You mostly find open-bolt mechanisms in >designated automatic weapon platforms like machine pistols and actual machine guns.
>>68230358
should of shot the air near his feet causing a trip
>>68230744
Jesus fuck take that shit to /k/ you fucking mongoloids
>>68230719
Oh right it was in florida
when does stand your ground apply? isent it only if you are actually threatened? wich she wouldent be if the burglar was running away
>>68230300
>>68230063
>>68230247
>>68230273
>>68230300
No, here's what you're unable to comprehend, I don't even give a shit about the kid I am thinking solely on the woman's actions. He's a fucking burglar how can I defend that? You're just so blinded by obsessive hatred of niggers, more than usual amounts, that you can't even process facts. You cannot tell me that the kid couldn't overpower the woman. Only one round was let off, my guess is that he was struggling with an exit and she landed a well placed shot. I don't give a fuck, my concern is not making gun owners look like trigger happy retards. Its shit like this which is used as fuel to implement evermore restrictive firearms laws in your country, which happens to be the last country to really have any proper gun freedom. The problem is the vast majority of your population are irresponsible, your government keeps using examples of dumb shit like this to make retarded asinine laws.
It only took one fucking case to get handguns banned across the UK in the 90's.
>>68224585
There are places that give you clothing and food for fucking free. These are not things you need money for.
>>68230451
Then she could pull off his mask to discover Trevon was really A FUCKING WHITE MALE.
SCOOBY DOOBY DOO!
>>68229965
Which is why we're not a colony of yours anymore.
>>68230832
Just pointing out the errors your fellow American made to avoid confusion and misinformation m80
>>68230582
That's now how our law works, Swedebro. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. Defending yourself isn't unlawful, therefore no murder.
Similarly, you can't be charged with manslaughter if you were defending yourself (in Florida).
>>68225204
Underrated >>68225195
There will be a race war. Consisting of a couple of hundred dead nigs and another 30-40% of them being round up. FEMA camps full? Disease?! Oh no, SJW agree for a week or two. Then we all make money again.
Don't worry about it.
>>68230660
No, gipsies go great lengths to stand up for each other. You can not get away with it, and thwy keep locals in absolute terror in some villages.
I also believe the law is still: you cannot defend yourself with more power than you are attacked with, which is fucking insane.
Someone breaks into your home, that should give you the full right to defend yourself, much like the woman did in op.
>>68230094
Rio Grande Valley, they were hispanic
>>68228542
>>68228845
UK has a little known self defence loophole that lets you do whatever the fuck you want: the level of force seemed reasonable is deemed on FEAR of harm, not what could be objectively judged to be done to you.
All you have to do is say you thought he had a gun, and anything you do, outside of torturing him, is legal under self defence.
You don't even need a shred of proof that he had a gun, just say that you were afraid that he had one on his person. Provided you stick to the story, you're legally untouchable.
The part where people fuck up is where they say they knew he was unarmed. Granted, it's fucking ridiculous that you need to lie about it, but the loophole exists and more people need to know about it.
>>68230582
>well if the intent was to kill it was a murder
Wut...
>>68230927
>That's now how our law works, Swedebro. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. Defending yourself isn't unlawful, therefore no murder.
Pretty sure that's not how Swedish law works either. In most of Europe killing someone in self defense is manslaughter, when it isn't justified. But it usually is. Unless you're in Britain, in which case you'll have to just roll over and take whatever the criminal has in mind with your asshole, your family and your goods...
>>68223905
>Gwendolyn Jenrette can be forgiven for putting security cameras around her modest Miami home.
Oh, thank the lord that a woman can be forgiven for being robbed so many times that she spends what little money she has on security cameras. I wasn't sure the heavens could forgive her for these crimes.
Is this just the shittiest writing ever, or some deep-seated spineless cuck beliefs escaping that people literally don't even have the right to defend their own life against wild animals?
>>68226638
Fuck off nigger.
I don't care what kind of person it makes me, you invade what is mine, you forfeit your life. Period. My home, my family, my car, doesn't matter. You violate anything of mine and I will put you down. I don't really give a shit if you run or beg or offer to suck my dick. I don't care what the law says. I'll get a lawyer, you'll get a casket.
There is entirely too much forgiveness for criminals. He could just as easily have had a gun or come back and raped her. You don't know. What you do know is he didn't value her right to feel safe. So fuck him. She should have emptied the gun right in his face, make his family keep the box closed at the funeral.
>>68230893
If you think an old woman shooting someone who broke into her house is going to get guns banned here, you don't know Americans.
>my weed dealer has a guy in their neighborhood that walks around stealing from everyone
>currently luring him into his garage through the motion sensors so he can run in and shoot him with a 1911
>no one is going to know or care about this because he's white
How many of the people in this media actually wake up every day so misled by their confirmation bias that they still think they're doing good when lying every day? They're emotional conmen.
>>68229695
Leftists don't consider elderly whites to be of value, though.
>>68230893
And you're ok with that?
Imagine if after one drunk driving incident they did the same with alcohol
One case of cancer, cigarettes
Obesity, fast food
You don't like guns, you don't own guns, you don't live in a state where guns are part of tradition
And yet you know the answer to an over seas country's gun laws
>>68231037
>UK has a little known self defence loophole that lets you do whatever the fuck you want: the level of force seemed reasonable is deemed on FEAR of harm, not what could be objectively judged to be done to you.
Thats basically the same as everywhere in Europe, and even the US. Reasonable fear of being harmed is enough to defend yourself..
>The part where people fuck up is where they say they knew he was unarmed. Granted, it's fucking ridiculous that you need to lie about it, but the loophole exists and more people need to know about it.
If you don´t reasonably fear being harmed, you really shouldn´t be killing people or horribly maiming them m8...
>>68231045
Yes anon if you intend to kill someone its murder
if you physically plan it (write it down, text about it, make a map etc.) its a first degree murder
>>68230893
>Only one round was let off, my guess is that he was struggling with an exit and she landed a well placed shot.
The problem is that this is 100% your assumption and how it plays out in your mind without adequate evidence. And that's not a good reason to say that it's irresponsible.
I mean, you can already see the majority of Americans here defending her without knowing her race or anything. It's not a race issue. We're simply passionate about defending the laws that serve us.
I live in a red state too and when a law passes that the state is unhappy with, it causes massive protests and gets struck down. That happened recently with a bill legally allowing the discrimination of gays.
So, it is not a race issue. I'm not even a racist. I support Bernie Sanders even though /int/ thinks he's a cuck who wants to give the USA to the blacks or something. We're simply able to see that anything suggesting this was unlawful is not there. You're the one who's making all of that up. That's your problem.
>>68230481
>See that an intruder is in your home
>Don't know how many or if they're armed
>Be an old woman and just fucking go in despite the operators who YOU CALLED telling you not to
You're a fucking cretin and the woman is a fucking cretin. Why would you go into an unsafe area? Type what you want but you would not go into your house if you were outside if there were unknown intruders. You would monitor and call the police.
WHEN YOU ARE INSIDE YOUR HOUSE ALREADY IT IS DIFFERENT, MAGDUMP.
DO NOT WILLFULLY ENTER A DANGEROUS SITUATION WHEN YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY SAFE.
Do you understand? Muh possessions don't mean fucking shit they can always be recovered if the cops get him right when he slips out. If I'm out the house then fuck it.
Imagine if there were 4 armed Daquans, you'd really fucking regret walking into the house with your Hi-Point.
>>68230927
Yes but then you actually have to prove you where defending your self
its pretty hard to defend your self from someone running away
>>68231256
Thing is, here, if you shoot someone to wound, then the charge of torture or something cruel and unusual gets placed on the shooter end the criminal not only gets all his medical bills paid for, he capitalized on the person he perpetrated
>>68230893
>my guess
There is your problem, you are making assumptions without evidence.
>>68225195
>In each case the targets were African-American men
because they were coming to loot and rape and shit.
Jesus how do leftists write this with a straight face
>>68231376
>Defending your home is wrong.
And I thought /pol/ was exaggerating about you guys being cucks.
>>68231419
>if you shoot someone to wound,
oh bullshit. that would only happen if some fool in public said "i'm going to shoot your spine but let you live" or some nonsense like that. shooting with a handgun and no laser is not like playing a video game.
>>68231256
people usually shoot to stop.
You don't shoot to kill, or would but to stop.
>>68231037
That is essentially what I said already.
>>68231751
nu-thread for nu-males
>>68231376
>Why would you go into an unsafe area?
Because it's her home. She didn't go strutting around in a dangerous neighborhood waiting to be attacked. She came home to her house, which is supposed to be sacred.
The same culture might not exist in England, but we take it really seriously. I don't blame her for wanting to protect her home. Nobody has the right to take that sort of safety away from you. We don't even allow the quartering of soldiers here, constitutionally.
>>68231045
>Unless you're in Britain, in which case you'll have to just roll over
Bullshit.
>>68231419
Im fairly certain you wouldent get charged with shit if you shoot to wound a burglar in your house
>>68231701
probably, i doubt any sane person would want someones life on their hands, but bullets are notoriously good at killing
>>68223905
>racing home
She was not in imminent danger. She could and should have just let the cops deal with him.
The dispatcher told her not to do something and did it anyway; she's fucked.
>>68231376
So because you're too much of a fucking pussy to defend your home, I should be too? Because I don't want to wait on the police and the lengthy process to get the shit back that I need for my own reasons, I should just let criminals take it?
I have a fucking job, I pay bills, I do everything the right fucking way, so now you're telling me that I DONT have to work for shit, because beta Cuck lords like you will just let me take their stuff?
I have 15 fucking minutes before a cop is even on his way, give me your fucking address and you can call the cops and tuck your dick in while I rob you senseless
>>68230269
Seriously who's a dick to someone for wanting to learn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKjZ9hvNiK0
>>68231404
You don't have to prove you were defending yourself in a case like the woman in Florida. It's presumed by circumstance.
>>68231874
Lmao trust me dude, were America, were backwards as fuck. I promise if you look into it, you get in more trouble shooting to wound than shooting to kill
If she didn't kill that little nig nog, it would've been another Michael brown Ferguson Trayvon Martin incident
>>68231256
>Yes anon if you intend to kill someone its murder
Not in the Netherlands, and probably not in Sweden either in the context of defending yourself in your own home against a burglar. Swinging a bat at someone's head might very well kill them, so if you do that outside of a self-defense context it'd be manslaughter.
>if you physically plan it (write it down, text about it, make a map etc.) its a first degree murder
Murder in Germanic legal systems is always premeditated. If not, it's manslaughter ('doodslag'). 'Moord met voorbedachte rade' is actually saying the same thing twice, so you only read that in papers in this country, never in actual legal documents.
>>68227285
Your right, but also wrong bro. You CAN be charged when Obama and the libtards ally the whole stupid ass system and country against you to make an example of you. Ask George Zimmerman about that.
You will note that justice was actually served in that case, but if they can fill your jury with niggers, Jews, and liberals, you'll be fucked. Regardless of the facts or the justness of your actions. "Justice" and "right and wrong" have ever changing definitions, and the current trend is that niggers are always victims, can never do wrong, and should be allowed to do what they want unimpeeded by their victims or law enforcement. Why? Maybe the fact that we have had a goddamn dindu as president has something to do with that?
>>68224007
"When is it appropriate for a civilian to use lethal force?" is a legitimate question.
Hypothetical: Bob is a 42-year-old white male with a concealed carry permit. One day, he receives a text on his phone informing him that his home alarm system has been triggered. Knowing that Alice, his 18-year-old daughter is at home, he rushes there while calling the police on his cell. He enters the house, gun ready but lowered. Bob encounters a young white male that he doesn't know in his living room - we will call this man Clark. Clark sees a man he doesn't know holding a gun and runs for his fucking life. Bob sees a man he doesn't recognize in his home fleeing from him like he's done something wrong. Bob raises his gun and fires at Clark's back, killing him.
The truth: Clark is Alice's (also 18-year-old) boyfriend. She invited him over, unbeknownst to her parents. The alarm went off because Clark did something innocuous like step outside briefly without properly deactivating it/reactivating it or something. It's not even particularly clear that Clark knew he wasn't welcome in the home; we're assuming Clark hadn't met the parents and Alice could have told him anything she wanted. By any sane metric it's clear that Clark has done nothing worthy of death. And yet at the same time Bob's decision to fire is in many ways understandable. There's a stranger in your house who's scared to see you come home. Sketchy as fuck.
How could we have prevented this situation? Well, what escalated the situation to a fatal one? Bob's decision to fire on a fleeing (and seemingly nonviolent) home invader. What could have prevented that escalation? Making it clear that civilians don't have the right to respond to nonviolent felons with lethal force. As a general rule, it is preferable if people get their judge and jury. Due process isn't optional. We make exceptions for certain cases (like self-defense) because expecting people to sit there and let themself be murdered is stupid.
>>68232060
>trouble shooting to wound than shooting to kill
That's because a gun is considered a lethal weapon, and purposely using it in another means you knew you were not in a life or death situation.
>>68231376
>Do you understand? Muh possessions don't mean fucking shit they can always be recovered if the cops get him right when he slips out. If I'm out the house then fuck it.
What the fuck Britain. Doesn't your law permit you to defend your property/belongings as well as your physical safety? If it doesn't, it should... Fuck that shit.
By your logic the woman in this story should just have let her husband get beaten and robbed, instead of doing something about it?
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/03/two_alleged_robbers_shot_dead/
>>68224249
>open carry
Idaho just about to pass permitless CC. what now?
>>68231630
Is that what your retarded self managed to summarize? You're telling me if you got a notification on your phone from a house monitor that you had an intruder inside your house while you were far away that you'd actually go in?
I did the caps lock for the slow Americans but it seems that isn't quite enough, maybe I should make a YouTube video for you to understand.
>>68231799
>>68231886
I'm unsure how you still do not understand, you're talking as if she was already in her home. That, would be a completely different issue.
You do not, under any circumstance put your life in danger willfully over fucking possessions. That is what she did. She risked possible death, as an old fucking woman too, when she was safe and out of harms way already outside her house. She thought it would be a brilliant idea to enter a confined space and confront multiple possible armed men because she didn't want someone to steal her worthless trinkets.
This is what you're defending. Utter retardation. I need to repeat this, American posters are so fucking dense, if she was actually in her home already she should have magdumped.
If you think a judge and jury will agree with her actions you're beyond delusional.
>>68232205
Maybe Clark should have stayed outside and waited for the cops instead of running around someone's home with the alarm going off.
>>68223905
She should be commended.
>>68232205
You shouldn't have to wait around and scrutinize the whole situation to ensure your life is in danger and you won't be subject to legal action. That's very serious because it's life or death for the homeowner.
>>68232366
There are home alarms that silently notify the owner and the police.
>>68232205
>Making it clear that civilians don't have the right to respond to nonviolent felons with lethal force.
Except you can never really tell someone's intentions when they're in your house.. All justified defense takes is a reasonable suspicion of a threat. Not an actual one. If you want to change the law to reflect that, you run the risk of Clark shooting you or taking your daughter hostage because you gave him a chance to adapt to the new situation...
But I do agree that shooting non-violent burglars might not be the best go-to course of action.
>>68229617
This.
I'm glad the kid is dead because he was just another criminal nigger who would have done nothing for society but the lady has very little going for her in a murder trial and will probably be convicted.
>>68229353
>Parents
Lets be honest here you know there isn't a father in the picture.
>>68225436
It's a shame to our country as you post with that flag , if you want to say some dumb cuck shit like that use a proxy so we think you are not a United States of a America citizen .
She was defending her property someone commited serious crimes those consisting of , breaking and entering , trespassing , larceny , home invasion , and disturbing the peace . He is already a convicted felon at the age 17, I feel he would never learned and would be in and out of the prison system if you think otherwise you are a fucking liberal idiot who deserves to be killed if you want to be this way move to Belgium .
>>68232481
But surely the daughter would have know about that.
>>68232215
This.
I know it might sound crazy to some people, but here in America you are FUCKED if the person lives after you shoot him
Even if you're an Olympic marksman and shoot his knee somehow
They will hit you with legal bullshit
You pulling your gun should be the same as you screaming in panic, it should be a natural reaction to thinking you were going to die if you didn't
Tbh honest it would've looked better on OP's post if the woman just shut her eyes and dumped the whole mag, instead of one well placed shot, it makes her look more guilty
>>68232474
We didn't ask Bob to scrutinize the situation carefully. We asked him to not shoot fleeing people in the back. That's a really easy call to make.
"What am I aiming at? Oh, it's his back. Okay, I'm not going to pull the trigger."
>>68230893
You don't know shit so stop acting like you do. Your opinion doesn't matter only the facts. For all we know he hesitated before attacking her and she took the shot. Who doesn't hate niggers? Clearly this black women hates niggers more then most of us ever will since she shot one dead.
And no this fine black women is not a nigger just the scumbag stealing shit from her house.
If she did in fact shoot him while he was trying to escape and after she was told not to do anything, then ya, she should be charged with murder.
>>68232063
I dont think you fully understand the word intent
intent is basically what you wanted your actions to accomplish, if you wanted your actions to kill someone then you intended to kill them
>Swinging a bat at someone's head might very well kill them
yes but did you INTEND to kill them with that swing or was it an accident to kill them
>Murder in Germanic legal systems is always premeditated
a first degree murder is premeditated and im pretty sure it has to be physically planned also (or atleast it makes it alot easier to prove that it was premediated)
a second degree murder is when you did not plan to kill someone but you intended to kill them when the murder occurs
i.e someone robs you and you stab them in the throat, you did not plan on killing anyone that night but you did intend to kill them when you stabbed them in the throat
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