>DUDE SEX LMAO
Why do we as a society place such high value onto sex? Yes we need it to reproduce, but the extent that it's being pushed is excessive. Combined with widespread pornography, sex obsession drives us further into hedonism.
>>63713000
>who do self-replicating creatures prioritize self-replication?
0/10, try using your brain next time.
Human beings are programmed to be obsessed with sex
problem is less sex itself but premarital sex
I'd argue that the very existence of public high school and the media myth of the "teenager" is the root of everything wrong with society.
16-18 year olds used to be mature and responsible enough to work and marry and be fully-grown adults. Public schooling infantilizes them and divorces sex from the marital bond.
>>63713393
>>63713460
It's arbitrary though.
Why do you use a condom then?
>>63713393
>but the extent that it's being pushed is excessive.
Learn to read faggot.
>>63713735
Are you really this dumb? Sex has appeal independent of creating children. Creating children is actually a negative aspect of it at this point if you're affluent. Evolution isn't sentient, it doesn't account for the invention of condoms and birth control.
Everyone obsessed with sleazy hookups is always a failure
One of my friends is such a person, works retail, does nothing but drink and smoke and try to fuck girls. Total loser, he hasn't left town in 5 years and I doubt he will ever again
And to add, arranged marriage would fix society in a big way.
Marriage needs to be an expectation as important as getting a job and going to school, not something you need to have perfect true love for, but a duty that you just have to do for the greater good. And an appropriate outlet for sexual release.
This is impossible though without parents and community taking an active role in planning marriages that work. Marriages between 2 families instead of 2 individuals. This is what Indians, Muslims, Orthodox Jews and more traditional Chinese do.
The "Dating game" is degenerate within itself. You're not supposed to have to compete in a darwinistic animalistic manner for a mate. There used to be civilized methods of courtship that put similar people together.
I refuse to have sex until marriage.
>>63714005
this is the end result of post-industrial society. You can blame capitalism, or blame socialism but in the end it's one big corporate+government consumerist machine that dehumanizes and places the shekel above all else.
The destruction of the family benefits both the government and the corporations. The very infrastructure of society is now anti-family.
>>63713941
So are you also confused about why food is "pushed" constantly? Are you confused as to why there's a massive industry built on what is essentially just making food taste certain ways, even if it's at the expense of nutritional value? The explanation is the same.
>>63714009
and the worst part is when people like this come into threads and claim they're real alpha men, and put down "betas."
the whole fucking alpha/beta thing is the result of dragging us down to an animal level. Yes, some people are stronger, smarter or better looking than others. In the past they could marry people of similar levels and reproduce just fine.
>>63713000
If you had some good sex maybe you'd understand.
>>63714221
There are plenty of families out there doing just fine I'd have you know.
>>63714420
When did I mention alpha and beta? Going by pure animal instinct, my friend is more 'alpha' than me. But thankfully we aren't animals and are civilised, so he is a loser while I get to enjoy the fruits of the world while dating women that are more likely to be a good wife and mother
I'm not for dragging us down to animal level, animal level is loser land, is the death of humanity. Darkies vastly out-animal whites, which is why it's a horrible idea just for that reason alone.
>>63714703
I'm not saying there aren't, but there's no denying that it isn't as common as before and it will get worse as this generation grows up with porn and/or tinder hookups being accepted.
And the families that do form and stay together tend to not be as strong because women especially wait too long and miss the proper age when it could work out.
>>63714732
Sorry I wasn't attacking you, I meant people like your friend. You're completely right. I'm just disappointed when people like the friend you describe make fun of people for being virgins or being opposed to premarital sex, and call them degenerates or losers.
>>63714989
Everyone on the low hates their betters
Someone smarter than you? Call him a virgin and a loser. Someone more motivated than you? Call him boring. Someone cooler than you? Call him an asshole
Same shit, different year
it doesn't or at least shouldn't. This was implanted artificially, before the world war there was hardly any empathis on promoting depravity on such a scale like we see now.
>>63715220
It goes both ways.
So-called '' chads'' making fun of people who aren't going to clubs and lifting 24/7 and the r9k crowd of neets who do nothing but consume media are both symptoms of the same problem.
It's the foundation of society. Sex leads to families, families lead to communities. It is also the corrosion of society. Abuse leads to prostitutes, prostitutes lead to oppression.
Porn, sexual imagery, and Christian decline combined with a need for far less exercise, have made your average person far more sex hungry in modern times. Sex isn't that great. If you're a virgin, just wank, because you aren't missing anything. Women are not worth the effort for 10 minutes or less of enjoyment.
>>63713000
To distract you from having rebellious thoughts.
Sex is a legal drug they use on us.
>>63713000
t. virgin
>>63715780
You still don't get it. They're worth effort but for the long term fulfillment of raising a family not just for sex.
I can't answer that because I've never had sex before.
>>63715780
Also horrible advice because once spoiled and conditioned by porn you'll never enjoy the real thing the way it's meant to.
>>63713732
Hormones mayne
Horny teenagers are real
Also because for consensual sex to take place you have to give your body to someone.
This shit has been bothering me nonstop for a while now.
In my mid 20s and definitely missed out on hook ups and all that. Really messing with my mind. I was just pretty beta as a younger guy.
Anyone else feel the same way? How to get over missing out on young love? I regret it a lot now and it's seriously making me really depressed.... Anyone else on pol in the same situation?
>>63714865
So what's going to happen a generation of two down the line? Severe population collapse, people incapable of love or even simple friendships and people willing to fuck each other over the smallest amount of money?
Because sex is good..........
>>63716337
They're supposed to have marriage as the outlet for it.
>>63716508
Pretty much. A generation of robots chads and niggers. They're all equally degenerate.
>>63716122
Yeah but I'm not having kids because I don't want to subject them to this place.
>>63713000
Society always has, the difference now is how many different outlets people have to explore it.
High quality porn, hook up culture, various brothels etc.
Really you can thank birth control. Before that people had to be careful, but now they can throw caution to the wind.
Sexual revolution meant people can be absolutely open about it and get pats on the back.
>>63715718
Both those types are losers though, I don't see how it's different
Actual intelligent or motivated people make something of themselves, losers shit all over everyone and other losers too
>Sexual revolution meant people can be absolutely open about it and get pats on the back.
The sexual revolution meant taking another look, not throwing out 10,000 years of culture and millions of years of biology.
>>63713000
Jew brainwashing, but I mean, come on. If you're in love with someone, do you have to have a baby every time you fuck?
>>63716422
Not as big a problem as you think unless you're already in your 30s or are fat or a NEET. Just be thankful you didn't partake, and work on removing porn from your life and being successful. At least that's what I've realized at 22 after one very close but failed relationship.
>>63717094
No but it should be only within marriage and it's degenerate to be childless by choice
>>63713000
Because it's a "brave new world", OP.
>>63714108
>refuse
Sure you do
>>63717269
But then people will just get married so they can fuck sooner. And there are more degenerates with kids than without.
DUDE WEED LMAO literally equals DUDE SEX LMAO.
Prove me wrong, normieposters. You know your addiction to social media and Tinder isn't the way people are supposed to live. Addiction is addiction.
>>63717594
Except a people aren't a weed.
>>63717575
Admit it, you're addicted to 4chan and anonymous communication which destroys the normality of face to face contact.
>>63717575
I was the pink ID above. I agree that public school and consumer society delayed the expectes marriage age in favor of endless indoctrination and careerism and this is a root of a lot of the degeneracy.
>>63716422
Hook ups are awful. I had a bunch in early 20s and it just made me feel like shit. The sex really isn't that great and I just feel lonely when they leave and don't ever want to see me again
Meanwhile, even if the breakups are a huge negative, every girl I've dated properly was a fantastic experience until the end. The sex feels better all round and you've got a companion to share your life with
Oh yeah, and I only started dating in my mid 20s so don't sweat it. There really isn't any difference except for the responsibilities of being an adult, you'll get immature and mature girls all over. If you want young love you can still get it. I dated a 20 year old briefly who was like a teenager in all the best and worst ways
>>63714053
You can thank repressed Victorians for re-inventing the wheel and pushing romantic love as an ideal for marriage. You still had arranged marriages for a while, but the seeds had been planted in trashy novelettes and penny dreadfuls and by the end of the Great War and a severely reduced European population and viola you have modern courtship and dating.
The fact that we call people we are ritually fucking "boyfriend" or "girlfriend" should tell you how recent the phenomena is.
>>63713000
>we as a society
GENE REPLICATION IS THE END GOAL OF EVERY ORGANISM. THOSE WITH MORE DESIRE TO WATCH ANIME THAN TO BREED WILL, I REPEAT, WILL BE WEEDED OUT.
>>63717846
Well, I wouldn't say I'm addicted, I just enjoy the content on this particular board. You're communicating anonymously, too. Should I check you in to internet rehab?
Jew media and the school system created the demographic of '' teenagers'' for marketing and breakup of values. The word didn't exist until after WWII. Imagine if you could meet a sweet woman through family connections or church instead of having to party and date and fornicate at school. Abstinence is Much harder today because the whole system is against marriage at the proper time and has incentivizes divorce
>>63718076
I 100% agree. I'm not an autist who thinks love isn't real but REAL love is deeper than fleeting feelings. It's a mutual agreement and it builds over decades of working through good and bad times.
>>63718017
It's almost like trying to remove feeling from a natural, intimate activity that releases bonding hormones in the participants is a bad idea :3
>>63718141
gene replication is the end goal of cells, not organisms. As complex organisms we don't consciously share the objectives of our individual components, but we sometimes do inadvertently as it pertains to how our bodies make us feel.
>>63718141
The people actually breeding are stable families with traditional values. Hipsters think it's bad for the environment and even when they attempt marriage it suits them so unnaturally they don't want kids. And then if they have kids what is their foundation going to be? The lyrics to Radiohead?
>>63717701
No but casual sex has people treating other people like drugs instead of people.
>>63713000
I'm 25 and I just lost my virginity a couple days ago to a 8/10 hooker. I liked it but I'd rather do it next time with someone I actually like. In all honesty ever since I did this I've become a lot less awkward and I don't stutter when talking to people and I even criticize my friends autism. I can't explain it but people who don't know I lost my virginity are now paying attention to me when I speak.
I swear I think losing my virginity made me into a normal functioning human being.
>>63718427
Most modern men or women lack what it takes to whether the storm of marriage (myself included). We just aren't living in a time or environment that rewards a classical or traditional concept of marriage so all the struggle and effort just seems so pointless.
>>63718788
This is so true it hurts. How the fuck can any relationship develop deeper when you can't stand to look at one another when the endorphin's wear off. Its the same exact shit that has men enabling degenerate cunty women because they are blinded by pussy and women for going to some alpha forceful Takbir that is just planing to convert her and her children.
>>63716422
I wouldn't know about hook-ups but from my experience of young love, hook-ups do not contain any of the ingredients that make young love unique.
Honestly, I think it's depressing that losing your v card to a one night stand in uni is becoming more common.
>>63713000
Because it's validation for underachievers.
>>63719070
Testosterone, chum.
>>63719400
Ironically I only realized all this by going through a relationship with a Bangladeshi Muslim girl. She wasn't extremely religious but maintained the traditional values regarding sex and marriage. Ultimately the prospect of having to meet her father made it impossible and mixing the cultures was a horrible idea (I was completely bluepilled at the time) but I learned the value of innocence. She actually didn't know how sex worked and believed she was having an orgasm from having her nipples licked.
>>63718451
If only the scientism cultists actually understood science
But nah, science is hard lets just regurgitate global warming studies we didn't even read on Facebook ;)
SCIENCE!
>>63713000
Teenagers are too dumb to have sex. Teenage boys have no empathy, and teenage girls mostly have sex with them because of peer pressure, and then they regret it later and spend the rest of their lives as spoiled traumatized broken goods with no self-esteem.
I want a sexless marriage someday. Sex is not worth it, if you're not worrying about STDs and pregancy, even in monogamous relationships sex causes men to get UTIs and even yeast infections. Or one partner whines and cries because they only get sex 4 times a week instead of everyday. Or there's the constant need to "spice things up" with more and more extreme degenerate forms of sex.
Sex is for making babies. Notice how sex is the only pointless hedonistic activity that people are expected to be addicted to. Now our water supply is poisoned with estrogen because most women are taking pills everyday to enable there whoring behavior. So now men are growing manboobs and girlyhips, but we have no one to blame but ourselves.
>>63716966
true brethren
>Why do we as a society place such high value onto sex?
>Why do we as a society
>Social Construct.
Fuck off. We're horny smart monkeys.
We like to fuck because it feels great.
>extent that it's being pushed is excessive
>it's being pushed
>Social Construct.
Demand, leads to someone willing to supply. Supply does not lead to people consuming it. We didn't consume radioactive material until there was a fucking demand for the shit.
You are as backwards on this as SJW's are.
>>63723061
>lol i fucked a slag once after a club night
>this new loose society is fuckin tops mate innit
>im ok with all the girls going with apelike men because i got me dick wet without bein married eh lad
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>>63722160
I wouldn't take it that far. There's nothing wrong with married sex and if done properly and not used as a substitute for working out problems together it can strengthen the bond. Premarital sex does what you describe. You sound like you prefer celibacy and there's nothing wrong with that. But being married and celibate isn't any more natural than premarital sex.
>>63713732
>problem is less sex itself but premarital sex
Hey thanks for your opinion, Puritan guy from Plymouth. Now kindly fuck off to your icy grave, its not Halloween yet
People who obsess about sex tend to annoy others with their vulgarity and low-impulse control. You end up with creepy degenerate cucks like Gavin, who feels the need to get involved in other people's sex lives, or pic related. Terrible people to have a conversation with.
>>63720468
That's much better than having hypersexualized women boasting openly about their experiences as cum disposal bins. I'd say this thread is more about carrying oneself with self-respect rather than behaving like someone from low caste upbringings.
>>63713000
Because most people don't have anything else that they enjoy. Sex like most things is great in moderation, having it as the focal point of existence is just silly.
>>63723966
Have you even seen what modern day New England is like today? Full of niggers Jews and feminist '' intellectuals''.
If you lived there you'd be begging to have the pilgrims back
>>63723364
>club night
That's the most offensive part of your entire post, you pleb. Night Clubs are fucking vile and unappealing.
>i got me dick wet without being married
Guilty. Though I've only had sex with 1 woman, and its been going on for a while. Marriage is dead anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2vFc1AIOA
>this new loose society is fuckin tops mate innit
There is a difference - clearly lost on you - between something being a reality, and you approving of said reality.
The fact is we seek and desire sex, rather than being taught to seek and desire sex as the OP claims. The only notable change between us now, and the past 7000 years of organised human settlement is that demonizing open fraternization between the unmarried is/has dissapearing/ed.
I don't think marriage should be a requirement for sex(partly due to the fact marriage gives benefits to only the woman). However I equally frown upon those who sleep around, and think sex should be at the least for long term stable relationships.
>>63725345
There's one thing you forget
We ain't animals any more. Animals don't make all this shit we got, they have no higher function to do so
;_)
The person considered most pathetic in my friend group is actually the meathead that gives his entirety to social media. This goes without saying, /fit/, but it doesn't matter what you look like. If you give your all to social media, you are a despicable, feminized cunt.
>>63713000
I have recognized this too. I have since given up masturbation and pornography. I will be following the Catholic Church's teachings on sex. I can't force anyone but myself to change so I must model myself as an image of how to act.
>>63725866
>Forgot
Was going to use evolution as an example of an unwelcome truth. Single Males would be the primary reproducers even a few thousand years ago in the civilized era due to conquest, war rape, polygamy and slavery as a reward for the victors in wars. This doesn't mean we should just accept that, but at the same time if push comes to shove and we lose our comfy living conditions... we're still capable of massacring our neighbor for the sake of taking some of their shit.
We are animals, smart enough to be able to understand the process of evolution and begin addressing some aspects of our behavior.
Are you saying that you believe the urge to have sex is something that our society actively created? Created something that wasn't present say... 100 years ago?
I'd say the lack of demonetization is the main element which leads to people being open about sex, rather than tactfully and covertly seeking and advertising their own interest, as can be seen throughout most of history being the case, with a lot of notable people in history both having a wife, and a mistress.
That's not society encouraging sex, rather those who want to have sex, making it easier for themselves to do so.
>>63713000
To get you to go into debt and keep you poor.
>>63713000
You're 100% correct OP. It's always funny how, whenever anyone on here points out the obvious truth that obsession with sex is an archaic, obsolete vice that causes nothing but destruction, the horny 15 year olds and victims of Pavlovian advertising campaigns on here start their vociferous whining.
It's not a religious issue. It has nothing to do with religion. There are countless testimonies of couples deciding not to have sex and realize how much better, deeper and more fulfilling their relationships are.
Conversely, the sheer ubiquity of problems caused by sex is fucking horrific. Every single facebook feed. Every single single mother. Every single young person's social drama. Every single sitcom or drama shown on television. Observe any tiny scrap of first world society and you see the undeniable proof. Sex is the #1 cause of drama, hurt feelings, depression, wasted time, wasted money, poorly raised children, destruction of families, bullying, child abuse, hatred between humans, any problem you could think of that doesn't involve literally starving to death in a gutter.
This isn't "le religious puritanism xddDDD".
This is a scientific fact.
The jury is in.
There is no debate.
The evidence is literally everywhere.
Sexual obsession is bad.
It hold back society.
It holds back individuals.
Like shitting on the floor or pissing on your territory it is an obsolete biological artifact that has no place in civilization.
Despite how much /pol/ loves to shit on gays, trannies and SJW's, you are actually the same hypocritical blue pilled plebian sexual revolutionaries if you defend this shit.
>>63713000
I used to have a pretty high sex drive but it's definitely gone down quite a bit over the past two years. Now I crave a relationship much more than sex. I've read and acknowledged the risks and dangers of a long term relationship but it's just the main thing that's on my mind. I don't think it's healthy to have been alone your whole life.
>>63728469
Sex has its purpose within the marriage. And there's nothing wrong with marrying young provided you're mature enough to handle it. And this was the case for most people until public education happened. Especially for women.
outside of that though you're right.
>why do people place their literal biological imperative highly on their priorities list?
>>63728469
>Sexual obsession is bad.
And what's your proposal to solve this?
My own position on the matter is that sex outside of long term relationships should be avoided... any idea's on how to persuade the plebs into thinking this way? I'm at a loss as to persuade people other than the soft, long term relationships work out the best argument, which hasn't worked for the past few thousand years and likely won't work any time soon.
What would you actually propose to do?
>>63729651
Read the statistics he posted. Premarital sex is bad.
I don't agree that marriage should be sexless though. That's taking it too far, if you believe that you'd hold that it's better to castrate everyone and use artificial wombs.
>>63729742
Fucking retard, no proposal.
"ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS ACCEPT MY FACTS."
I kinda do.
Marriage is something we came up with early on to try and hold a couple together, as well as designate territory. For all intents and purposes a long term relationship can be exactly the same as a marriage in these regards.
Even if I was to accept it all... it doesn't change shit does it? There isn't any method of changing how people think about this...
>>63713000
to have sex is the only achievement in life for like 90% of people
look how they always brag about finally not being virgins
>>63728469
It's not the premarital sex is ruining marriages, it's that people who have a ton of it are inherently shitty.
>>63713000
The pill has turned "sex" into a skinnerbox for the modern male.
In le old times the reward for sex was to continue your genetic line, basically a genetical extra life.
Now since all white women are infertile hags with cul-de-sac barren wombs all males are chasing the dragon until they hook one up.
Before that a man could knock up a woman and then spend his time on meaningful things like inventing the combustion engine or a space rocket.
Now all the men constantly have SEX on their minds, women flaunt it endlessly because they realized they now have an awful lot of power over men. Even the most medicore looking chick has a bunch of suitors who want to nut into their cunt (not stay with her though) and this inflates their egos and in return turns most beta men into neurotics.
The problem with this is that our society was built by betas for betas. Alphas always could access anything they wanted by power and force. Pussy, goods, food, slaves, land and a harem of women and an army of heirs at their disposal.
Only betas had to invent shit because nobody would work for them because they were not imposing enough to get slaves to fetch them meat, water and child brides.
So according to my predictions if things continue to go at the same rate western civilization will collapse into itself in 30 years.
>>63713732
>16-18 year olds used to be mature and responsible enough to work and marry and be fully-grown adults.
wrong. nice try though. go back to the 16th century.
>>63729651
>What would you actually propose to do?
What do you do any time you want to convince society of something? That's a really hard thing to do. You need to lead by example and not back down from the inevitable backlash. Don't be strident or pugnacious, but stand your ground on the issue. People will automatically assume it's a religious bias so be sure to always say it has nothing to do with religion.
Making infographics and circulating them around would probably help convince normies.
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>>63713000
It's the only possible achievement for double-digit IQ losers.
>>63716631
i welcome this future, because eventually horrors that the few have realized will reach the many. There will be fewer and fewer healthy children in the most civilized countries. By the time the plebians realize that everything is crumbling around them it'll be too late.
>>63713000
Because we have a degenerate culture that puts sex above other persuites.
Sex is only an activity, but our shallow hedonistic society has made sex a goal in and of itself.
Like people enjoy eating good meals, but imagine if our society revolved around it, everyone all day just strived to eat a steak by 2 am.
>>63723061
Cocaine feels good, by your logic we should snort cocaine on the daily. Maybe we should fuck fertile 12 year old girls, must feel good so lets do it!
>>63713000
>DUDE DEGENERACY LMAO
Then don't have sex, I guess. No one cares. Most people like it, though.
>>63713000
It because we are pleasure seeking stupid apes, and listen to women too much.
>>63713000
>Why do we as a society place such high value onto sex?
It's fun.
Especially with a partner you genuinely like and can play around with.
>Yes we need it to reproduce
Have you ever had a good orgasm?
> sex obsession drives us further into hedonism
Why would having a lot of sex drive you to hedonism? Are you just going to not date anyone? Presumably you'd fuck your wife, right? Or is it a close your eyes and think of Jesus deal?
>>63713000
A lot of women are stupid. vapid and shallow. The best thing is to hope that you're good looking when your young and try to find one that's not brainwashed. If you don't find a girl that's not brainwashed whatever you do DON"T HAVE CHILDREN. Women will lie and say that you hit them and call the police to make your life a living hell. Go to /r/theredill there's a guy who just posted a very tragic story.
>>63732702
>It's fun.
Killing is even more fun than sex and going on random killing sprees because it gives you a really awesome rush is not advisable for a stable civilization.
The amount of excess edorphine and adrenaline shooting into your brain when you kill someone is far greater than nutting one off.
And yet most men have the self-control to refrain from trying to make themselves feel good by letting go and following instinct.
By the same logic shooting up heroin is also really fucking awesome because it's fun and gives you a really good feeling.
>>63733040
Oh and sometimes if you piss off a girl "hell hath no fury like a women scorned" she''ll get jealous because you can attract other girls.
>>63730418
this is something that a lot of people who brag about being "alpha" don't get. And something that was solved with arranged marriages in the past and in other cultures.
>>63733096
>Killing is even more fun than sex
You're having bad sex. Or just not any, which is more likely.
> amount of excess edorphine and adrenaline shooting into your brain when you kill someone is far greater than nutting one off
Requires a pre-existing mental disorder. Your basic assumptions are just wrong. Only a subset of humanity experiences killing positively, they fall into the psychopath and sociopath categories.
> yet most men have the self-control to refrain from trying to make themselves feel good
Make your argument even more reaching at straws buddy. Mix in aliens somehow.
>By the same logic shooting up heroin is also really fucking awesome
What is the LD50 of sex?
>>63730418
>Before that a man could knock up a woman and then spend his time on meaningful things like inventing the combustion engine or a space rocket.
Don't forget other meaningful things like going to whorehouses. Or don't, since it doesn't fit in with you theory.
Average modern women disgust most rational males.
>>63730418
Or having mistresses.
>MUH BIBLE
When is pre-marital sex degenerate?
>>63733656
>repeating your previous post
we get it, you disagree. just fuck off. you've clearly never been on a rampage.
>>63731018
>Making infographics and circulating them
:|
Unsure if being trolled.
>People will automatically assume it's a religious bias so be sure to always say it has nothing to do with religion.
Have no fucking fear, most people I know get a tad sick and tired of hearing me quote C.Hitchens about how religion is cancer.
Imo, no sex before marriage is a flawed position, as most people aren't willing to risk finding out they have completely separate sexual needs than the other and cause a strain on their relationship.
It would be much easier to argue that people should aim to be in a relationship for AT LEAST BARE MINIMUM and probably longer than a year before considering having sex. 2 to 3 years would be more natural as this starts entering into the area where its clear both people are interested in each other and sex is then the semi-final step in the relationship...(the final being having kids).
The main reason this would be vastly easier to argue for is that marriage nowadays is 0 risk for a woman whereas its a massive risk for a man. Also a year or two would this seem achievable and therefore worthwhile... unlike chastity, which there is plenty of evidence that its been unsuccessful for most of human history.
Equally, when it was used were in societies where marriage occurred much earlier in both men and women sexual cycle, whereas now... you want the average man and women to wait until marriage, which will be when one has the job security to provide for the other? Really?
Not going to happen. Its too much of a change from our nature as beginning to reproduce at 15-18.
>>63732013
There are medieval monks and priests who took confessions documenting peasants confessing to multiple and various sexual acts, both premarital sex and masturbatory acts, and disproportionately women in these accounts(because hey, which would you make a record of, men wanking or women using food as dildo's). If you think sex is something new, I just have to say your ignorant.
>>63714221
Why the fuck would that be the case, retard? The government wants successful businesses to take the most money from, and that means they want families to stick together, stay wealthy and send their kids to college so they can get a good education then go and make a lot of money for the government. What you're saying makes no sense. Poor people equals less money for the government
>>63733656
You get his point, all he is saying is that by your logic anything that is fun to someone should be permit able in excess. I do disagree that having a lot of sex with ones partner promotes hedoism, but hookup culture sure does. Sex often with various people is both physically and mentally dangerous. Na' mean?
I've probably had sex with more women than you ever interacted with in your entire life, you hopeless captain save a hoe.
Yes, good sex makes your brain shower you with endorphines.
But brutalizing someone in a fistfight or killing a man gives you a far greater rush of adrenaline that beats the best orgasm. You'd know this if you ever had any serious physical altercation.
We men are hardwired to enjoy killing and violence, it's in our genes and in our testosterone.
Gras-eating men like you are a relatively new thing that popped up in the last couple of centuries thanks to a think called "civilization" that replaced law of the jungle, where someone like you would get your head crushed with a rock because you are a faggot, with a set code of rules that allowed people to live in larger groups together and work towards a greater goal.
But here's the thing, in order for a society to work everyone has to be self-aware of their urges and instincts and only express them in a controled fashion.
That's why things like duels, boxing, hunting for sport and MONOGAMY were invented.
By promoting polygamy a beta like you who gets laid a maximum of two times per year by some chick who will regret it later and not call you back, causing you to endlessly whine and bitch to someone like me, hoping for advice for your distraught emotional life, you are sawing off the branch you are sitting on in the greater scheme of things.
>literally just raw dog analed qt3.14 black girlfriend 10 min ago
Feels good.
>>63713000
What the fuck is wrong with you? Sex is fine. Stop being a low test bitch. Go get laid.
>>63735644
Considering that every black person I've ever encountered had awful wreched body odor when doing physically exhausting work or activity and sweating I don't really wanna know how anal with a nigger smells like.
>>63714005
Given time it might.
Sex used to be free. It was the dogmatic doctrines of monotheism, that came up with the stupid idea that sex is taboo.
They enforced laws on sexual explicit themes to the point the world was sexually repressed. People feel guilty about sex. They believe sex is private. They believe they need to go through a ritual before they can enjoy their god given body.
Sexual repression and guilt creates the most degenerate fetish because it becomes extremely exciting as a taboo, to be sexually free in their own private space.
>>63713393
>prioritize self-replication
With the amount of birth control this heathen nation goes through? Yeah right lol.
>>63713000
Its fine in moderation, but when you're doing it 7 or 8 hours a day, then you're falling into depravity
>>63734983
>we get it, you disagree. just fuck off. you've clearly never been on a rampage.
Neither have you. But the difference is that you're factually wrong.
Don't act like it's a mystery or up to debate. Psychopathology is well studied. There's a ton of material on spree killers, serial killers and a lot on ordinary men in war. They don't overlap, but for a few individuals.
People who get off on killing are mentally ill, they're defective.
>>63735344
>You get his point
He doesn't have a point. That is the point.
> by your logic anything that is fun to someone should be permit able in excess
No, that's not my logic. You people have yet to demonstrate any validity in your comparisons, or show evidence of the downside of sex, especially since a lot of sex isn't related to lots of partners.
You can't both be for marriage and stable relationships and against sex. You have to take up some weirdo cultist abstinence position to be consistent and we all know that's ludicrous.
> I do disagree that having a lot of sex with ones partner promotes hedoism, but hookup culture sure does.
You even state the problem outright, so why act like you didn't get it the first time.
> Sex often with various people
So it's not sex that's the issue then. Glad we cleared that up.
>>63735914
The problem with this logic is that only low-test betas like you CRAVE sex as something good, for "alphas" it's as normal as taking a shit or eating a bread.
But by normalizing polygamy you are making sure you'll get less of the resource pussy, because it will all flock to fewer individuals.
By monogamy everyone will have their mate, occasionally cheat or go to a whorehouse, but mostly stay with one person and thus sparing me the trouble of having to deal with a dysfunctional society where fat girls are acting upity because thirsty desperate betas are willing to bend over so far to please them to get a whiff of their pussy stank that it'll completely rip and tear western civilization apart.
>>63713000
EVERY LIVING THING ON THIS PLANET EXISTS TO MINDLESSLY PASS ON THEIR DNA. WE'RE DESIGNED THAT WAY. AND THAT IS WHY THERE IS WAR.
>>63736622
>People who get off on killing are mentally ill, they're defective.
That's simply not true.
You realize the sensation of your twig-like noodle arms shaking from being a cheeky cunt online and disagreeing with other people.
That's a little taste of the adrenaline that you get from conflict.
Only that when you break someones nose during a fistfight you'll get about thousandfold the dose of adrenaline.
It's a completely natural thing.
The way you talk about killing or violence is an awful lot how people in the middle ages talked about fornication by the way.
>>63713000
>hedonism
>bad
>>63736821
yet as you said, betas are the ones who build civilization and invent stuff
unless you believe technology is evil and should be eradicated and we should go back to hunter-gatherer society
>>63735362
>I've probably had sex with more women than you ever interacted with in your entire life, you hopeless captain save a hoe.
Borrowing from Patrice isn't very original. Neither is the "more sex with more women" bit. Especially since, if you have, you're just adding to my case.
> brutalizing someone in a fistfight or killing a man gives you a far greater rush of adrenaline that beats the best orgasm
> You'd know this if you ever had any serious physical altercation.
If you weren't a retard you'd know adrenaline isn't serotonin or dopamine. These are all different things that you get in various amounts depending on the stimuli.
If you're getting orgasms from being in fistfights you have a mental defect.
>We men are hardwired to enjoy killing and violence, it's in our genes
Which gene? I'm keen to see your research here.
>Gras-eating men like you
It's "grass", and humans don't have a digestive system for it. I don't even think most primates can process grass.
> relatively new thing that popped up in the last couple of centuries thanks to a think called "civilization"
You don't really understand how evolution works do you? Or at what timescales.
> controled fashion
> MONOGAMY were invented
Society has been more stable than now without monogamy. In fact monogamy is a historical anomaly. The early 1900s saw more death than at any other point in history, and that's when monogamy was strong.
Since then, violence has declined. Over the entire world. So has monogamy.
So what we're learning, according to your own idea, is that monogamy is not conducive to a stable, safe society. Nor did it produce the technological advantage this era of declining monogamy is.
>By promoting polygamy a beta like you who gets laid a maximum of two times per year
I'm in a stable monogamous relationship. Because I'm that much of a rebel. I just hate pop culture.
> causing you to endlessly whine and bitch to someone like me
No, I'm just showing why you're full of shit.
>>63737434
>yet as you said, betas are the ones who build civilization and invent stuff
Yes, exactly.
This is why I'm saying that we as a species have to take one for the team and only enjoy certain pleasures (fighting, fucking) in moderation.
Fighting in a boxing and sport enviroment, killing as law enforcement officer or hunter and sex as a marital excercise in bonding with your partner.
Because this is what enables us to build civilization in the first place.
Hedonism in sexual form is the first primal instinct to go rear it's head in recent times, made worse by barren women (thanks to the pill) turning mating into an endless self-triggering loop.
But the other urges (murder, rape, cannibalism) are going to rear their heads sooner or later the further our society slides back into law of the jungle.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Either accept civilization with rules or accept full on debauchery, but don't wish for debauchery and then complain if someone decides to murders you and then rapes your fuckbuddy open relationship partner, just because it feels fucking good and feeling good and fun is the prime goal of life now.
>>63723061
Hey while we are at it we should allow people to have sex with 10 years old ammirite? because sex feels SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOD, according to muhammad logic isn't it?
>>63737153
>That's simply not true.
I'm in the medical field, so's 3 of my relatives. You are categorically wrong, the fact that you didn't even address the scientific differences between states of arousal from various neurotransmitters is because you have no fucking idea what these words mean.
> Only that when you break someones nose during a fistfight you'll get about thousandfold the dose of adrenaline.
You keep talking about adrenaline as if that's the primary component of an orgasm you fucking retard.
Adrenaline isn't what makes you feel good. I can give you a direct injection of adrenaline until you get a heart attack and all you'll feel is increasing anxiety from the vasoconstriction.
>The way you talk about killing or violence is an awful lot how people in the middle ages talked about fornication by the way.
Clearly that's the time period you stepped out of, so I can only assume you're muslim. Allahu akbar my turkish friend, you keep fucking that goat and cut off some more infidel heads, I know it gets your dick all hard.
>>63738055
VR technology will make this whole argument interesting in the future, and honestly kind of scares me and makes me feel guilty for being a computer engineer.
though of course that's not realistic at all, since there will still be hordes of niggers, sandniggers and other people who will continue to kill and rape and pillage in real life
>>63738467
did you even read his posts? He has fornicated plenty in his life. He now realizes it's wrong.
>>63737930
>If you weren't a retard you'd know adrenaline isn't serotonin or dopamine. These are all different things that you get in various amounts depending on the stimuli.
Like I care about the technicality behind WHY it makes me feel good you fucking beta.
Unlike you I've put people in the hospital and had some of the craziest sex imaginable.
And I can say by a far margin the powertrip you get by crushing someone's face beats sex.
It gives you a fucking crazy rush, heightens your senses and gives you a really great high, that will give you the shakies when you come down and you aren't used to it.
Again, the only reason why you autistically dissect my posts to answer to individual paragraphs and generally being a dipshit is because that smug little feeling of intellectual superiority you feel is a tiny taste of conflict, which your life is probably largely lacking, at least in the physical realm. Now imagine the rush from being a keyboard warrior and blow it up on cosmic size. That'd be a small fistfight outside a club.
That's all I gotta say.
I know more about life than you, I did more things than you did and I don't need to get lectured by some beta cuck who argues AGAINST his best interests.
Because someone like me is going to fuck your monogamic partner against the wall and you will come crying and bitching to 4chan, going to /adv/ and ask how to make her fall back in love with you again.
I've seen people like you who want to score brownie points with girls and saw off their own branch. You are neither unique nor special.
>>63735362
Just going to go out on a limb here and say that you've got the warrior gene, which isn't something all men have mate.
>>63713393
They're simultaneously pushing the message that having any children at all is bad though (if you're white).
Hardly anyone (white) wants lots of children these days, if any, and young people talk about them like they are the worst thing that could ever happen to you.
>>63739065
That's why I think it would be in the best interest of everyone if we share things in a fair way.
I'd love to see space colonized, but if we have future rocket engineers killing themselves or numbing their brains with antidepressants because their tinder fling didn't call back after their sloppy drunk one night stand we won't get to colonize mars anytime soon.
I'm too dumb to build a rocket, I fully realize this. But I'd love to put a flag on mars.
But unless we find a way to go back to a moderate distribution of steady, meaningful relationships for emotionally dependent betas we will be pissing away progress.
>>63714658
yeah sex is tight dude
>>63713000
>Why do we as a society place such high value onto sex?
There's multiple levels of processing here.
Your body likes sex because it feels good. This is likely tied to reproduction being an important function.
Your mind likes sex because it is a source of validation from others.
But knowing that you like sex, there are outsiders who will use that against you.
Advertisers like sex because they know if they can produce a linkage between the way you feel about sex and their product then you will buy their product and they will have more money. So they create advertisements which extol the virtues of their product and sex, which in turn reinforces to anyone watching just how important sex is, along with whatever product they're selling.
Not just advertisers learn this.
Women are often initially apprehensive about sex. But then they learn that they can sex to extract resources and behavioral concessions from men. But a lot of this ability has to do with the fact that they're dealing with men who've had decades of conditioning telll them that sex is extremely important.
>>63738955
>Like I care about the technicality behind WHY it makes me feel good you fucking beta.
>Unlike you I've put people in the hospital and had some of the craziest sex imaginable.
This is you admitting you have no fucking idea what you're talking about so kindly stop disagreeing, or read until you have an actual objection.
> Unlike you I've put people in the hospital and had some of the craziest sex imaginable.
Watch it man, I was trained in gorilla warfare.
>And I can say by a far margin the powertrip you get by crushing someone's face beats sex.
You have a mental defect. You're like a tranny that way, there's just something wrong with the wiring in your brain. You get off on pain and causing pain. It's not meant to be that way, since you were giving all those (worthless and ill informed) biological reasons earlier you should understand why.
> that smug little feeling of intellectual superiority you feel is a tiny taste of conflict
Winning by walk over isn't conflict. You're full of yourself if you think people get agitated over shitposts on 4chan. Jesus dude how new are you?
>I know more about life than you, I did more things than you did
Does "overcompensating" mean anything to you?
> someone like me is going to fuck your monogamic partner
There's some irony in your posts being anti-degeneracy topic and your incessant need to get off on your monkey prowess and how much you fucked maan and how many fights you've been in maaaan and you don't even know maaan I've lived real life and you don't even know, you haven't been there MAAAAN.
>You are neither unique nor special.
Says the walking stereotype.
A high value on meaningless sex with people you barely know.
>>63738955
Look at the Internet ego on this cucked kraut.
>>63713000
>wake up
>want sex
>every fucking time
>see cute girl in skirt
>go talk to her
>try to get in her pants
>every fucking time
and that is why op
>>63739906
I know that smashing in someone's face and winning a fight feels better than ejaculating in the tightest vagina you can imagine that leglocks your torso.
I don't care what substances my body decides to shoot up into my brain to make it feel good, I just know it does.
I think it's adrenaline and endorphine because it feels like a mix of bungee jumping and having an orgasm, only at the same time and more intense.
A great rush, you don't feel pain, even if your knuckles split open.
As for the rest of your passive agressive dissection of my post, I don't give a shit frankly.
Either you'll learn or you won't. I don't give a fuck and I certainly don't wish you ill.
>>63740445
I'm hungarian. :^)
cuz it feels good. that's about it.
(and it's easy, any idiot can do it)
>>63739519
>but if we have future rocket engineers killing themselves or numbing their brains with antidepressants because their tinder fling didn't call back after their sloppy drunk one night stand we won't get to colonize mars anytime soon.
Reductio ad absurdum
You'd need to have a multitude of other mental factors in order for that even to be THE thing to tip you over the edge and kill yourself. And if its something of that scale then you could argue that anything that may cause emotional distress should be limited on those grounds(ie, safe spaces (I am so sorry for the pun))
>>63741225
meh stimulants will give you a 100x bigger adrenaline rush than your body could ever naturally muster.
>>63741425
Well then continue to be mystified at the unkowing forces and desires that control your life and make you drive by sight.
>>63741425
Don't be surprised.
>And if its something of that scale then you could argue that anything that may cause emotional distress should be limited on those grounds(ie, safe spaces (I am so sorry for the pun))
Just because one thing may really affect someone doesn't mean they are affected by many things. That's not how it works.
>>63741618
Well as mentioned above, shooting up heroine also feels really good and is a lot of fun.
It just tends to have a bad effect on society if everyone decided to shoot up all of a sudden.
>>63716422
Do something that your passionate about to forget about it.
>>63716422
fucking fix it
nobody else will
if you dont want to go back / to uni for the ez lays you are going to have to go full on cringe mode pua to catch up, no shame in that. fuck others opinions. mb change city for a while if you dont want your failure to follow you.
>>63741789
I meant to say they maybe will. ie, it would be a case for infinite number of hypotheticals to lead to this hypothetical on the edge space engineers suicide and therefore that is an argument against all things, ie Reductio ad Absurdum
Stretching the argument so that it would cover anything.
>>63714005
>Sex has appeal independent of creating children.
This, naturally is not compatible with>>63713393
>>who do self-replicating creatures prioritize self-replication?
this.
Not from a rational standpoint.
>>63713000
Dunno OP. Dude at work is a skinny ass manlet. Mexican/Puerto Rican. Gets mad pussy somehow, probably mostly just from a good attitude. He is always saying how he is lonely as hell, yet always talks about pussy and fucking random girls. He was especially down after his girlfriend dumped him for cheating on her. I'll never understand people who are slaves to their dick desu.
>>63723966
>Hey thanks for your opinion, Puritan guy from Plymouth. Now kindly fuck off to your icy grave, its not Halloween yet
>discerning the root of the undercut we see about the act of reproduction which we ostensibly lived for and used to hold sacred the more intellectually advanced we became but then became less sacred the more degenerate we became and the more regression is somehow bad?
Thanks for your opinion, degenerate. Now if you don't mind shoo shoo back to your hole while the Men are discussing what must be done about such a rampant and unfavorable circumstance.
>inb4 teen pregnancy is good because I say so
>>63716508
>>63716631
>>63731879
>>>63716631
Dude. C.S. Lewis called this very thing in "Abolition of Man".
Basically he said what if progress ultimately succeeds what will the world look like?
It wont be good or bad, it will be beyond such things, but it will not be human.
To be good or bad is to be human.
Man's conquest of the natural world is really the conquest of himself as Man himself is of the natural world.
So to fully realize progress means to necessarily make an age of in-human "humans".
>>63714732
>my friend is more 'alpha' than me.
What's it mean to be alpha?
To be an animal "on a leash" in a society of "civil" beasts is no great achievement, but to be civilized in a jungle of savagery, that is what makes greatness.
>>63735100
Heres why your wrong.
Money is a means to power over others.
If giving others power undercuts them in the long run sure.
But the run is over, they no longer need money to exert power,the world is becoming increasingly authoritarian look at the buzzwords the "thoughts that are wrong" in this day and age many would say there are certain thoughts you may not have, certain conclusions you may not reach.
They have cut out the middle man, they no longer need your money, money is worthless and serves only as another tool to keep others down because they still think like you, that money = power, no longer is this the case that money = power.
thus it is in their best interest to create a society of dependence, more than likely on money itself, the illusion of "ill make it one day, I must try harder".
>>63746806
>born with slightly more testosterone than pers
>testosterone makes you big, lean and gives you muscle
>lack of fat and abundance of muscle raises testosterone
>testosterone changes your attitude and attracts women
>sex raises your testosterone even more
>realize you actually dont have to take orders from people weaker than you
>exploit that
>realize you could be in a position of power
>aim for it
alpha in a nutshell
>>63735100
>>63747366
This doesn't mean don't try, it means try for something that's worth trying for.
>>63713000
See: Late imperial Rome
>>63713000
Your autism is showing.
>>63746555
>>tfw I'm an electrical engineer
>>I've always dreamed of saving the world with technology
>>now I'm just terminally depressed because I've realized that's an oxymoron yet it's what I love and what I'm good at
>>63713732
This guy is right.
Get married and have sex like 2-3 times a week with the wife.
Sex is taking up way to much of people's time and energy. Its a source of degeneracy and should be saved for marriage so that you dont' waste your fucking life trying to get it.
>>63747384
Lies all of it, you're defining alpha to mean what your told it means.
The last three.
impossible, tried, failed every time, people said I was insane to think I could go my own way.
>muscular
little bit
>women
18 years and there's only been 3 girls come after me that I know of. Like actively pursue even when I don't reciprocate.
I fit your definition, but then I realized, the last three, and realized it is insufficient for the rest of the definition.
To be "alpha" you need to destroy what you think it means to be alpha.
Everyone is against you when you do this, because your definition "fits" it conforms to the mold you were placed in. Now who ever did anything by playing out their "destiny" predetermined for them by men "smarter, stronger, more powerful" than they?
To whom does greatness come when they conform?
There is hope though.
To break the mold (cliche, liberal junk it sounds like, but the cliche-ness is just that even the "breakers of the mold have been accounted for) so what I've done is learned, learned all I can, filled all my time with studying. mostly.
Now when I have a conversation it pisses people off, because I am right and they know it.
>anon just because you think you're right doesn't make you right
>syllogisms aren't always valid arguments
That is what they are reduced to saying.
usually they appeal to "the powers that be"
>you'll never do anything thinking that way
You fight your war and I'll fight mine.-mao was a bitch desu.
but for real, if you actually break the mold it becomes you vs literally everyone in every sense of the phrase.
>>63718141
Swedish cancer. You see what the Jews and atheism have done to you?
No better than an animal. Religion allows you to move past simple desires and begin to create art, discover, etc.
The society we enjoy was built by christian people who didn't spend every weekend partying and trying to get laid. They were disciplined and able to look paste basic animalistic urges.
Too bad no nordic people read their greatest philosopher. Sweden is so fucking cucked its not funny.
>>63725345
dude. Marry her. Seriously. I was in the same position. Best choice i ever made. Just go do it. The modernists might even try to make you feel bad for doing it.
>>63748462
not so alpha if you failed the last three tho
>>63748130
I don't even know what to say aside from props for being philosophically inclined in a world that disdains what it needs most, thinkers.
>perhaps you could fight progress with progress
>>63737930
Swede. you are retarded. LIterally arguing against yourself. That Reich bro wreked you. Just a typical arrogant swede with no real intelligence. Just special snowflakism and a youtube education.
>>63713732
>The tv wasn't reporting teen sex happening. Therefore it didn't exist.
Degenerates were running around just the same back then.
>>63749148
fuck ausfailia.
I only failed when I adhered to what it meant above the final three.
if living up to being what we see as "alpha" leads to failure then perhaps we need to rethink what it really means to be alpha.
If alpha means what it ought then why is it that who appears alpha is always at the bottom of the rung in proper society?
In the way civilization has progressed to become civilized?
>what is civ, alpha, proper civ,
Look, if alpha fails now, then we can know that at least something is wrong.
>alpha didn't fail you did
Keep telling yourself that and when your too old to change, realize that I was right all along.
pursue what you want, but you're only chasing tomorrow.
>>63749609
but you did fail, an alpha wouldnt
you pass the bar to alpha and then it enters into the realm of who has enough conviction and the superior genetics
>>63713000
the fact you can't get laid is no one else's problem but your own
>>63731879
Japan is already painting that picture for us.
And you know what? Its showing that people don't give a fuck because the almighty dollar is more important than providing incentives to start a family and raise kids. God forbid the government provide a little incentives or relief without being called giving out gimme dat checks.
>>63723966
It's 2016, I mean COME ON!
>>63749201
I'm also autistic and half Jewish.
I'll never be able to get that evil blood out of me, I've considered never marrying for that reason. But I really just want to find an autist wife to help me build things. On the other hand that's the epitome of dysgenics.
>>63749952
>an alpha
IS A SELF REDUNDANT SELF DEFEATING ENTITY.
Your definition of alpha is just the manipulation of what you mean.
Like "can an allpowerful being make a rock so big he can not life it" You need to define what allpowerful means, your definition of alpha is illogical, unreasonable, I was there, I did that, I failed, it didn't work.
Guess what does work, doing the last three, but not trying to rationalize it with what comes before.
>conviction and genetics
Truly, truly I tell you, you are a beast.
It's like talking to a bovine.
>you gotta have the right bull skills to woo the milkmakers
Look bud, you wan't know why you're "wrong" in this way of thought, whose behind the fence?
you or the beasts?
Whose at the top of the food chain?
You or the beasts?
>man is just another beast
Then do your duty and serve your master.
wander aimlessly your field and chew your grass five times a day.
You'll see whose in the slaughterhouse, theres a reason beasts are beasts and Men are Men.
Why the civilized and organized prosper.
Like I said, be the beast of the field, surely you will receive a better future if only you work harder.
When your old, I want you to remember me.
>>63716422
You're not missing much.Random sex is fun but the true enjoyment comes from knowing the other person is there in your arms when you wake up and that you both share a bond.
If you really want to aim for the hook up life you can try to get a FWB.
And honestly, depending on the quality of your porn and how often you ejaculate, beating off will feel a lot better compared to random condom sex.
>>63750812
humans are merely stupid animals
i can accept and work within that framework without an ego. why cant you?
>>63750445
It doesn't have to be this way.
You are a human bean.
Get married, have kids, teach them how to grow, to prosper, to "ride the tiger" and in the end slay the beast.
Go forth, powerfully, and succeed.
Lament not the breaking of yourself or others.
Who can say they have existed and not suffered?
Our pain will be the fuel for out journey.
Go now my son, go and make all men realize the truth.
>>63751422
I literally can't feel empathy normally because of my broken brain. My ex told me this flat out and it made sense. I can't feel what normal people feel, I can feel "love" but not the real kind.
>>63751146
>humans are merely stupid animals
>humans are merely stupid animals
>humans are merely stupid animals
>coming from a self proclaimed stupid animal
>ego
I tried the moronic egoist.
I always went home feeling like a retard. A retard that everyone thought it was awesome to be around and be friends with.
But a retard nonetheless.
>why can't you
"why do you refuse your fate as a stupid animal?"
"Why can't you just be dumb like me?"
All in do time friend, if you realize yourself, Dasein.
Then you will see your error.
Perhaps you might think you fill your head with illusions of grandeur without promise, you are the only one presenting grand illusions, ones that ultimately lead to dissatisfaction.
Perhaps if you would let yourself think instead of reinforcing your mind with "those are just wrong thoughts" you will get somewhere.
Are we really just stupid animals?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MWVMKKY3A
Animals do not think as we might.
You aren't thinking.
>>63752187
i have thought longer than you ever will.
at the end the conclusion all reach is that thinking is a worthless waste of time.
dont be abstract, look at human behaviour. no better than animals.
>>63750961
>true enjoyment comes from knowing the other person is there in your arms when you wake up and that you both share a bond.
This guy gets it.
>>63751906
So what?
Nothing that is too hindering.
If you cant' fight, you can recruit soldiers, if you can't shoot you can carry the ammo.
Do whatever to can to aid others, in their struggle but show them the truth, find the truth the right way.
There is one. Find it, and capitalize, even if no one knows the "real" you, who will you be?
A leader, a teacher, an influential being, what is wrong with that?
They say the best way to learn is to teach others.
You can amend yourself by mending others.
>>63713000
What a waste of trips. But really are you brain damaged or just pretending? Let me help set an example to allow you to see the truth.
>DUDE FOOD LMAO
>Why do we as a society place such high value onto food? Yes we need it to live, but the extent that it's being advertised is excessive. Combined with widespread restaurants, eating obsession drives us further into hedonism.
>>63743505
>>63719829
Can you guys tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm in college and I may as well not exist as far as girls are concerned. I'm fairly /fit/, pretty fun to be around, and pretty good looking but, where girls are throwing themselves at every other guy I know, I can't get past polite conversation.
It's like I'm sexually invisible.
>>63714005
Sex only feels good because of evolution. If our bodies really KNEW about birth control, they'd turn off our nerves when we have sex until the birth control is removed.
>>63749519
No, people actually waited until marriage
>>63752576
Whose to say all thought leads to the same place?
Whose to say you found the right place?
>all thinking is a waste of time
You're not thinking.
What grounds have you constructed your thought on?
I began with Plato, Republic and other works.
Then Aristotle his induction trying to achieve Plato's deduction.
Heideggers ontology.
Alethia
Time and Being.
Thomas Aquinas
Augustine (I am certain you are of the city of Man)
Bacon
Descartes
Kant (critique of pure reason)
Russel
Einstein (not a known philosopher but a scientific philosopher), on top of this, look at GTR, QM and what they mean for us.
Lewis
Tolkien
(Lewis was philosopher Tolkien never realized that he himself was one)
Schaeffer
Sarte
Nietzsche
Marx
Hegel
Schopenhauer
Ayn Rand (objectivity in economics is trash)
Hume
Berlinski (funny guy)
Who have you read?
What chain of thought have you followed?
Let me tell you, there is no chain, there is only unity.
It is like a pile of ropes and strings and the like, all of which alone do nothing but together.
>pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgcd6jvsCFs
Unity will always prevail over subjectivism.
>>63753343
how often do you approach?
if i see a girl i like the look of i will talk to her immediately. and yeh i fail like 9/10 times dont care. if you fail more than that and you are talking to girls daily you are probably talking too much, saying shit that is a turn off or not escalating like ( come do x with me, whats your number, suck my dick etc ). ask and ye shall receive ( sometimes if you keep trying ).
>>63752187
>>63752576
I bet this guys not even alpha m8, probs tall and slightly muscular like he claims but entirely autistic to have three girls come after him kek
>>63753961
all worthless
the only thing that matters is action and consequence
>>63713732
this guy is right
not to mention society is hypersexualized now (compare media today vs a few decades ago) and you get employees who need to jack off in the toilet 3 times a day. jewish media normalizing hedonism also a factor
>>63753980
>how often do you approach?
I don't, really. Girls just tend to throw themselves at guys they like in my experience. I figure if I have to approach, there's no way they'll be interested.
>>63754443
Maybe spark up a convo over facebook and tune them on there if your initial approach in real life is a bit too much, try to get to know them over facey then meet em, not be autistic, and fuck em, Although if you do talk to them over the web, It takes a bit to know how to keep the conversation flowing over text, either way idk keep at it m8 haha.
>>63754443
they might throw themselves at guys they like, the guy still needs to start the convo and get her into bed
>>63737153
killing enemy tribes and whatnot might be natural and good but its going to be hard to hold together a civilization if everyone is killing their own because;
>lol it feels good guys
if we did that we would be no better than niggers.
>>63754053
>the only thing that matters is action and consequence
Beasts never really could grasp things beyond themselves.
>>63754031
1 girl every six years.
And I'm not talking interested, I'm talking, legitimate coming after, actively pursuing.
More have probably liked me but it's never really mattered all that much.
I would love to get married and have a companion I could confide in, someone to lean on and be leaned on by.
But it holds no immediate persuasion.
>both australians
>both are rustled
Seems like I must be doing something right to impel such responses from two ostensibly "unrustle-ables"
>>63756236
He who makes a beast of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
>>63754031
>probs tall and slightly muscular like he claims
Tall, tall, never claimed to be tall.
Seems like your setting up an image of me to safeguard your little fantasy of what an alpha is.
6'0"
Not tall but not short.
Not even done growing "m8".
Doctor said there may be a bit more.
>Why do we as a society place such high value onto sex?
We had more noble goals but then feminism started and turned society female-oriented ie. sex
>>63756454
>He who makes a beast of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
And so loses his humanity.
>>63741225
>I don't care what substances my body decides to shoot up into my brain to make it feel good, I just know it does.
and being gay is natural to some people, doesnt mean everyone else is, and doesn't change the fact that you have a mental defect. Your brain is not the same as everyone elses, what feels good to you can feel terrible to others.
>>63741871
We would have problems if we all started fighting each other.
>>63756657
humanity is overrated
>>63715220
Really, everyone is boring. It has nothing to do with how motivated they are.
>>63713000
its your genes you dip
>>63753961
>look at what I've pretend to have read
>Unity will always prevail over subjectivism.
First modern philosopher on the list is Heidegger, the king of subjectivism and father of all will-centered, postmodern crap from Lacan over Foucault to Butler.
>>63718231
>Abstinence is Much harder today
I'm not experiencing any problems Tbh
>>63714658
DUDE
SEX
LMAO AM I RIGHT
>>63713000
Nice trips.
I read something about decrease in sexual taboos leading to a decrease in frustrations that manifest in "revolutionary spirit". Leading psycholigists agree that the more sexually satisfied a culture is, the less likely they are to revolt. So its the Jews' way of controlling you.
>>63713393
>prioritizing self-replication
>not doing so in a manner that actually accomplishes it and ensures a good environment for the replication
How is pre-marital sex, the bulk of which is anti-procreation, for self-replication? Especially when it does not ensure a stable environment for the child (marriage)?
>>63714658
>good
burning in hell forever is not good
>>63713000
You forgot to add STIS some of which cause cancer (HIV,HPV, herpes), unwanted pregnancies, mutations in babies (zila), unwanted sex by rapefugees who are encouraged by the degeneracy.
To sum up: sex should not be glorified.
All American media must be banned
Hollywood must be cleansed of the American capitalist degeneracy peddlers
>>because it's more difficult to abstain from sex....we are hard wired to be this way .....unless you have something better to do?
>>because it's more difficult to abstain from sex....we are hard wired to be this way .....unless you have something better to do?
>>if males could value other things obove sex...then the vagina would have no power....fucking simple.
>>63730418
Prostitution class used to be around 10% of the females throughout the middle ages.
>In le old times the reward for sex was to continue your genetic line
Not really, there was more prostitution then than there is now
