>Show called Vikings
>Not enough real Scandinavians left so they had to make 90% of the cast Anglo
LOL
*anglos and finns
>Ireland
>anglo
One of the villagers in Kattegat is arab. Shes always in the background
>>57507718
Jasper is the only finn in the cast tho
>show called vikings
>it's not in reconstructed old norse and anglo-saxon
>>57507798
There's Peter Franzén too tho
Are there even any Americans in the show?
>>57507720
They are for all intensive purposes
>>57507700
>Show abour Vikings
>No Mexican guy playing an Arab who becomes one of the chosen band of warriors who slay mangey Neanderthals
Why should I even bother
>>57507949
I just looked and I think only Piss Queen is American
very racist show desu. needs more diversity
>>57507700
Kathryn Winnick is ethnically Ukrainian, her actual name is Katerena Vinitska (or Katarzyna Winnicka)
>>57508316
Needs more traps
>>57507700
Everything about this show is wrong and I hate it.
>>57507700
The Last Kingdom is better anyway.
>>57508485
Why
Only major thing wrong is the overall timeline for different characters
>>57508533
>Attempting to pass off people as Nordic because they have light hair and eyes despite not looking Nordic at all.
>Fjords in Denmark
>Inventing all sorts of shit that was never in the Sagas
>>57508529
except the part when Uthred turns out to be a fucking action hero
>>57508683
Take a wild guess.
They are trying to entertain, or would you rather want them to slay women and little children all the time?
>>57508758
The source material is perfectly entertaining and dramatic as it is.
The additions literally make no sense.
Aethelwulf is pretty based
>>57508812
would you prefer to watch a bunch of poverty-stricken peasants with no eyebrows attack equally poverty-stricken peasants in Northumbria only to come back to their poverty-stricken Scandinavia to lead little less shitty lives?
>>57508843
it worked for Braveheart
>>57508843
The sagas are dramatizations of real stories written by professional poets.
They've already been stuffed with fake shit to make it more entertaining is his point.
>>57507700
As long as they're Northeast English they might as well be Scandis.
>>57508719
I do not disagree with this.
>>57508159
he's spaniard, tho
>>57507700
at least they did not sneak in black Heimdall or some random asian
I like it because it shows that Christianity is the best religion
Also
1. Lagertha
2. Queen Kwen
3. Þórunn
Those are best girls
>>57507700
I know right? They didn't ask for more, they just thought hey, we can use a few and it will be alright...
>>57508485
>>57508683
Don't forget unnecessary and highly inaccurate leftist pandering. There weren't fucking droves of female warriors, only alleged beliefs of very few - and some mythologized at that.
Arab slave dealer in Kattegat? Yeah right. Viking slave dealer in Kattegat? Of course - Vikings dominated the European oceans with their slaves, an Arab would never have made it up there to sell a meagre bunch. They completely gave that role wrong just for the sake of "ethnic diversity." Show isn't about ethnic diversity, I don't care what year it is. The show is literally about white people, hence the fucking name "Vikings."
Michael Hurst can't write history for his life. All he can do is set a bunch of semi-interesting sexual fiends in a historic era, and they can't go one episode without having unnecessary plot-irrelevant sex. Then you have fucking dominatrix shit like Count Odo. Seriously, what the fuck?
This show started before S1 saying "We want to make a highly accurate show about these interesting peoples. filling in the gaps wherever we need to fictitiously."
Now it's "HUR DUR ETHNIC DURVERSITY AND SEX."
>>57509080
>I like it because it shows that Christianity is the best religion
How? Sure, the heathens are barbaric, but this show quite tears a strip off of Christianity.
>>57509080
the other vikings show has better waifus
>>57508991
Isn't there an Asian now?
>>57507700
>Scandinavian
>Nordic
As if you can tell the difference.
the last kingdom > vikings
>>57509175
i don't watch the show, i though it was at least 100% blondes
>why no 100% scandinavian cast
>speaking as historically accurate as possible
>show needs subtitles and annotations to introduce the audience to the difference between culture and society back then and how it is (generally) right now in western countries
>>57507700
> Show called Vikings
> 1/3 of the cast is Australian
THE FIRE RISES
Well tbf they chose the more Nordic type of Anglos
>>57509253
He's ethnically German I think.
>>57509253
ye, bastardkids
Why are ethnic scandinavians so ugly?
>>57509288
>Fimmel was born near Echuca, Victoria. He was raised on a 5,500-acre dairy farm in Lockington. The youngest of three brothers, he is the son of Jennie, a recreation officer for the disabled, and Chris, a cattle farmer,[3] and is of English and German descent.[citation needed] Aspiring to be a professional Australian rules footballer, Fimmel moved to Melbourne in his late teens to play for the St Kilda Football Club in the AFL, but a broken leg sidelined him before the season began.[4][5] He was accepted into RMIT to study commercial architecture and engineering but later deferred to travel abroad.[6][7]
aussie init
>>57509267
>>57509198
>>57509173
They all have brown eyes.
>>57509311
brown eyed anglo qts are the master race lad
>>57509306
Literally every second person you meet at pubs lived this exact life of his, except didn't because a famous actor.
>>57509295
Those tits are fucking monsters though, holy fuck
>>57507700
absolutely disgusting anglo dogs fucking die
>>57509295
>Siri
>ugly
Come now
>>57509390
t. Didgeridoo Baboonuckle
>>57509374
he was headhunted tbf
probably never tried to be an actor
>>57507700
>average american doesn't even know how a scandi looks like
>muh non scandi cast.
>>57509614
they can feel it in their heritage
>>57509704
Hallo Poland.
Allow me to ask this question:
How many Americans can find Scandinavia on a map?
>>57509735
how should I know
I'm not American
>>57509295
You can't comprehend the beauty of our immortal and magical people, human.
We transcend such flawed human conceptions of beauty. We are the masterrace.
>>57508396
whats this?
>>57510032
A hidden nordic armpit vagina.
Of course a turk can't understand this things.
>>57509819
She is ugly.
>>57509819
>tfw a nord dies from sun banter near me
>>57509819
post Bjork or GTFO
>>57510032
You never pit-fucked a ballarmpittian before?
>>57508396
I would probably maybe somewhat stick my dick into that armpit
>>57510032
a ballsack
>>57507700
>The french princess speaks with a current days french accent
what the fuuuuuuuuuck
>>57510032
Looks like she had a scrotum backpack under the armpit waiting for a cock
>>57507700
it's an anglo production
anyway you probably have some autistic expectation that every single person in scandinavia is blonde and has blue eyes
>>57514081
>every single person in scandinavia is blonde and has blue eyes
No, Norwegians were lighter back then but Germans in the Middle Age flooded into Scandinavia and now you're darker and half your words are German.
>>57510427
Is that female version of Bill Kaulitz?
lol Who cares about some uncivilized snowniggers.
>Thor is played by an Aussie
LOL
>>57509295
Siri use to be so based before starving herself
>>57514208
>Norwegians were lighter back then
there was still people with darker hair, in the sagas they describe some people with dark hair
>>57514552
Why are you fixated on dark hair? It sounds like you want the show to hire an Arab/Italian greaser to bang nordic girls. Fuck off cuck.
>>57514662
you are out of your mind, probably mad with grief because your pre conceived notion scandis can only be blond turned out to be wrong
and anyway, OP is retarded too, if he wanted a scandi cast it would have to be a scandi production
this is not a movie about vikings, but close enough and what do you know, a scandi cast
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4738360/
>>57507700
It's a shitty show that the Norwegian Film Institute had no interest in funding.
>>57507875
…playing a Norwegian. wtf?
>>57514863
>oh my god, it's unthinkable
>>57510032
Backup nuts.
>>57514782
You are a cuck. Because modern Scandinavians are darker and the men replaced housewives to become "housedads" while women work you think vikings were also dark and became housedads while their women went on viking raids.
>>57512798
Tbh recreating historic accents exactly that far back is essentially guessing. Other than being rhotic speakers they don't have a clear idea of what Brits/colonials sounded like during our revolution.
>>57514552
Isn't there part if Norse mythology that describes the classes of people based in coloring and brown hair/brown eyes were the bottom of society?
>>57507700
>Europeans play European characters
>OY VEY HOW LE TERRIBLE XDDD
anglos are literally the biggest vikingboos, probably partly because scandis actually think of them as being part of the wider social history of their countries, whereas for the countries they raided they were a preternatural threat to our existence.
That and a lot of us are part-viking enough to muh heritage about it.
t. family from Caithness
>>57508925
I don't think there is much left over from the danelaw at this point in English dna
>>57508683
>thinking people from the baltic countries, eastern european and scandinavian countries look nothing alike
Are you retarded?
They literally raped and fucked for centuries.
>>57515588
Apparently yes:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADgs%C3%BEula
>>57515455
He didn't live in medieval scandinavia so he doesn't know any better than you or any foreigner.
That guy is a moron and a cuck.
>>57509819
>You can't comprehend the beauty of our immortal and magical people, human.
>We transcend such flawed human conceptions of beauty. We are the masterrace.
she'd look better with eyebrows IMO
>>57509374
The football thing just seems so cliche.
>>57507700
well they were raped enough.
>>57507720
A recent study found some people with N1c Y-DNA in Paris. You can guess where it comes from. Or maybe a Russian bojar that had to move after the revolution, although usually they screen for people that can prove their ancestors lived 2 centuries in the country.
>>57507834
>it's not in reconstructed old norse and anglo-saxon
Sometimes it is.
>>57507795
Kattegat, the name implies it was a settlement by Chatti, so not even real nordics there.
>>57510427
How about millenial Bjork
>>57508812
What do you mean the source material? It's not like they're following a 10th century manuscript, the surviving tales are incredibly fragmatic and wont make sense in any continuity.
>>57509170
I didn't even try to watch it for exactly that reason. I don't watch anything recent anymore really, my stomach can't handle the diversimania.
I much rather watch Dacii, it may be Romanian nationalist propaganda, but at least it is historically more likely than Arabs in Kattegat.
>>57515870
Americans are so unpalatable though.
I like the show and find it enjoyable however as everyone else has said the endless sex and "diversity" isn't really that immersive or entertaining. I don't understand why you are all memeing so hard about the lack of complete platinum blondes though.
>>57507700
>thread about Nordics
>Finns shit up the thread
KEK
>b-but we're blonde and blue eyed
KEK
>>57515879
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tale_of_Ragnar_Lodbrok
>>57516213
and how is this not fragmented? Imagine this as a movie, it would be all over the place.
>Tfw the sagas of my ancestors are shit on by Jews and Anglos to sell mass-marketed garbage to Americans
>>57515691
people from foreign countrie were brouht back as slaves, yes, but that doesn't mean a non blonde was bottom of society
keep in mind I'm not saying scandis had brown skin
I'm saying some of them were also ginger, or had brown hair
im not saying they had brown skin
>>57516361
don't ruin his epik varg image.
everyone from Scandinavia was blue eyed and blond haired.
>>57516361
I imagine the people who were out in the sun all day were pretty brown.
>>57516294
>Tfw an Australian is the best Viking they could find.
>>57516294
>implying your ancestors wouldn't have fucking loved television shows in the middle of Winter when there was fuck all else to do but freeze to death
>>57516294
please, the yanks have been doing this shit to everyone including us
>>57516269
well you said there wasn't a manuscript, but there is literally manuscripts to go on for a lot of these characters, not just ragnar
and they could have tried harder to refrain from all these creative liberties, and they could have stayed more true to sources
>>57516413
>Implying they didn't tell each other sagas and fuck their cousins all winter
>>57516445
They could have tried, but it would have been a failure. I don't think people (read: the general public) would have enjoyed it.
>>57516461
>You told us that saga already Björn, now we only have another 18 hours of night until the sun rises again.
>>57516361
>I'm saying some of them were also ginger, or had brown hair
Dude why are you emotionally invested in insisting Middle Age Scandinavians were dark? You weren't there you fucking cuck.
>>57507700
At least they have this qt.
Shame that he's a SJW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZM_e0qAeLU
>>57516525
>Let's go to cousin Björk's house, I'm sure she's okay with a threeway
>>57516445
Yeah as far as I understand Ragnar is the only one who's semi-legendary, but we know a great deal about his sons, which in turns makes Ragnar having existed more likely. Anyway, I don't get why autists always bitch about historical inaccuracy in a fucking historical fiction series, there are plenty of viking documentaries to watch if it's not real enough
>>57516598
Don't blame him for a mass psychosis.
>>57516391
You think vikings looked like block headed tatars like you
Go scrub some urinals polack
>>57509170
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan
>>57516690
>You think vikings looked like block headed tatars like you
>Go scrub some urinals polack
You're dumb as brick.
Your hatred towards Poles and Poland and your lack of knowledge clouds your judgment.
Go bark somewhere else, cockroach.
>>57516690
Why are amriblobs so obsessed with shit like this?
Can someone post the spurdo image featuring an ameriblob saying how he's a pure Aryan pagan but that he also gets yelled at by his mom to come to church.
I mean, if there's one country that is cucked beyond comprehension then it's the USA, race mixing capital of the world. All whites there are basically mudbloods, but like my grandma said (who FYI isn't racist more close to a Bernie voter) half the US is Jewish and it's ruled by jews
>>57516826
I have something like that.
>>57516770
>we share more genetics with finngols than with slavs
I don't know if this is good or bad
>>57516868
This is what makes Russians such barbarians compared to the Western Slavs.
>>57516895
b-but finngols are much whiter and civilized
Seems the only roles scandinavians get is whenever Hollywood needs a big scary Russian yet don't realize that slavs are not exactly physical specimen
>>57516657
Sure, he's been brainwashed ever since he was born into a family of media cucks on Södermalm. But he's still accountable for his views and should keep that shit to himself.
>>57516945
It was Russians that BTFO Swedish Empire and ended you for good.
It was Western Slavs that BTFO viking raiders and settlers. So Vikings chose to trade and swap women with them instead.
>>57517003
All our weaklings died back then, only Dolph Lundgren genes remained.
>>57517003
deluge
>>57517035
I knew you're gonna bring that up.
I guess you forgot to mention Civil war in Poland and Russians attacking from other side.
>>57517033
Doubt that. Seems like all the good men died and you were left with sissies.
>>57516718
I think people tend to underestimate just how interconnected the world was back in pre-Columbian days.
I saw a news article last week about how Abos from the north-west of Australia have something like 10-15% South Asian ancestry.
Then there's Austronesians, who explored basically the entire Southern Hemisphere with nothing more than rafts and the sky.
>>57517068
I was gonna let you do that, time is precious.
>>57516770
>picture some kid made playing with MS paint
Listen tartar, you and the cuck Norwegian think the vikings looked the same as modern Scandinavians without taking into account the massive immigration of Germans that took place during and after the Hanseatic League. The cuck says blondes overrepresenting old Scandinavia is a foreigner's misconception. He doesn't know. The German immigration changed how Scandinavians look today.
He's the one full of shit so do your job as a polack and flush him down the toilet.
>There were vikings here once
Spoopy
>>57517103
Also, the only reason Deluge was so distasterful for Poland is because you had a lot of Finnish soldiers which looted and destroyed everything they could lay their hands on.
Battles weren't as damaging. But still good display of the Swedish might. )
>>57517119
Doesn't your ass get jealous of all the shit that is coming from your mouth, shitskin?
>>57516826
>>57516862
Why am I not surprised it's cucks and Slav slaves who insist vikings were dark.
>>57517214
You're not very bright, are you?
No one is saying they were dark. But not all Scandinavians were blond haired and blue eyed.
>>57516598
Why doesn't he have long hair?
All warriors had to have long hair. It was considered very shameful when it was cut, that meant you had to pursue your life as a commoner or choose death.
You learn much more by reading say Gregory of Tours about Germanic tribes and their habits, than watching tripe like that anyway.
>>57517170
>Finnish soldiers which looted and destroyed everything they could lay their hands on
It's like the mongol invasion all over again
>>57517233
Most were. Blue that is, blonde has never really been a typical scandinavian trait.
>>57517307
You're thinking of east asians, vikings commonly groomed themselves.
>>57517135
>WE WUZ VIKANGS N SHEEEIIITT
>>57516826
>Why are amriblobs so obsessed with shit like this?
Pretty normal when you have been unrooted. They romantisize their alleged ancestry. Whether it's vikings, Irishmen or Romans doesn't really matter.
Most of them are mutts anyway.
>>57517335
delet this
>>57517346
>italy
;_;
>show puts huge emphasis on le viking shield maidens
>there's like two historical accounts of this
>they aren't even definitive examples, it's shit like finding a female in a burial mound buried with a shield so they assumed she was a warrior too
First season was good but then it got really fucking cucky.
>>57517233
Listen Mongoloid
the cuck said
>every single person in scandinavia is blonde and has blue eyes
He's implying blondes with blue eyes overrepresented vikings but he's basing that on how modern scandinavians look when it may be the case that there were much more blondes with blue eyes in old Scandinavia.
>>57507700
You better tell me what these absolute madmen will do next?
>it's an "American mongrel has the gall to call others cucks" episode
>>57517432
>Listen Mongoloid
>mongloid
You're a fucking retarded piece of shit. That's who you are.
Don't even respond to me anymore, lower form of life. I don't want anything to do with subhumans.
>>57517402
It's part of the mythology so I guess it's fine. Surprised Thor hasn't come down to boost ratings yet.
>>57517402
Don't forget the english princess who fucks her husbands father and then preaches to her dad about how free and empowered she is
>>57509175
>>57508991
yes there is some china girl now
>>57508396
slavs always providing the qts :^)
>>57517472
No rebuttal? Good you can fuck off now churka. Those urinals aren't going to clean themselves
>>57516598
What's he saying?
>>57517346
>blonde has never really been a typical scandinavian trait.
t. Mohammad brown-hair
>>57517521
Rebuttal is that you're a fucking low IQ mongrel muttfuck retard.
I bet you have african admixture as well.
>>57517433
Hol up, hol up. So you be sayin we wuz vikingz n shiet?
>>57517587
I HATE CHRISTIANS :DDDD
>>57517433
What the fuck kind of haircut is that even, and wouldn't it be a lot more practical to actually be able to see with both eyes when going into combat?
Still like that dude because he looks like Varg
>>57516567
>dude why are you emotionally invested in insisting middle age scandinavians were all blonde and blue eyed? you weren't there you fucking cuck.
>>57517550
>Living in Iceland
>unironically
lol
>>57514863
>Harald Finehair
>Descended from Finnish kings according to Nordic sagas
now I get why they picked a Finn for the role
wew lads
>>57517616
I like that dude because he brings some insanity to this slow as fuck show.
Ragnar is a dead inside low energy cuck right now.
>>57517346
No I'm thinking about what I read last night in Gregory of Tours first hand account of the Germanic tribes ravashing Europe around the fall of Rome and Clovis taking power.
All warriors believe, live Samson, that power lies in hair. Even when they were Arian of Catholic. They were vain yes, and wore things like the Suevian knot and whatnot, but the hair had to be long, never cut.
One punishment for some of Clovis' children of nephews, they were 7 and 10, was that the mother could choose between the scissors and the sword. When their hair was cut they could never be a warrior again, thus make no claim to the throne. (She chose the sword btw).
It is frequently mentioned elsewhere too, and much earlier, as a general Germanic costum. Tacitus mentions it too.
>>57517673
Hello funland
>>57517346
CROATIAN KINGDOM
>bosniaks
>not croats
>>57517673
Niiiiice, you were whykings and sheet.
>>57517616
>he doesn't wear his hair in authentic Viking hairstyles
Thor is displeased with you, I can tell.
>>57517679
You seem inspired but the germanic tribes weren't vikings. Shared pantheon but that's it, when it comes to customs there's no comparison.
>>57517760
is this germanic/viking enough?
>>57517673
>FORNJÓTR hefir konungr heitit. Hann réð fyrir Gotlandi
>Guy is literally from Gotland
>Is obviously from Swedish descent
>"Guys we wus Norwegian kingz and shit"
>>57517801
He'd fit in with the galley slaves, not sure about raiding though, I just don't think he's up to it.
I saw an episode or two of this "Viking" show.
The clothes they wear, weapons and armor are kiddie tier.
My ancestors didn't wear hippie clothes and Final fantasy armor.
They were more like pic related and its incredible how shit like that show is even made.
>>57517760
>That boat haircut
nice
>>57517809
>Fornjót (Old Norse: Fornjótr) was an ancient giant in Norse mythology and a king of Finland, Kvenland and Gotland.
>>57517866
Would be so funny if you were polish or something.
>>57517866
>you will never raid foreign land with your trusted brothers in arms, raping their women and settling their lands
>>57517809
>>Guy is literally from Gotland
>>57517866
>My ancestors
Your ancestors were overwhelmingly shepherds and dirt farmers. Stop with these delusions of grandeur.
ITS A FUCKING SHOW STOP COMPLAINING AOBUT
>MUH HISTORICAL CORRECTNESS
>>57517760
actually this was the chosen hairstyle in the nordic/germanic and even a few celtic tribes for hundreds if not thousands of years.
>>57517866
>My ancestors
its like me saying they portray every colonial age movie is wrong because the Dutch aren't prevalent enough
>Speaks English
>Not from an Anglo country
Is this the NSA?
>>57518030
we wuz beautiful n shit
>>57517866
>no horned helmet
VERDICT: HISTORICALLY INACCURATE
>>57517960
We already had a thread like yesterday and it was the same autism. This show is the best I've seen about vikings and if people won't watch it because "hurr its not a documentary" it's their loss
>>57518030
is there any proof of this
>>57518061
t. Machmoud Al Fakir
>>57518049
we have always been
>>57518060
american """"""""education""""""""""
>>57517639
Exactly. I wasn't there. The Norwegian cuck wasn't there either. He's the one insisting overrepresentation of blue eyed blondes in the viking age is wrong.
>>57518082
What do you even mean by that?
>>57517893
>guy has Norse name
>rules over a Norse kingdom and its Finnish colonies
>"guys he was Fingolian"
How do guys get such high PISA scores without learning critical thinking
>>57517925
http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Fundinn_Noregr
>>57517944
>Who is Gunnar Hámundarson
>>57518101
I don't know.
>>57507700
>>57507718
*anglos and finns and ukranians
>>57518088
Finn """autism"""
>>57518111
>Gunnar Hámundarson
proofs that you are descendant
>>57518086
Would you smell her shoes if you were sitting next to her?
>>57518153
>shoes
Dude you have literally feet there.
>>57518143
fugg even ancestors were homos
>>57518122
Implying she's actually Ukrainian not Polish rapebaby, like majority of good-looking ukrainians. kek
>>57518093
>cuck
you tend to say that word a bit much
also
>flag
all is clear
>>57518164
>>57518153
I would tickle her and her laugh would be like music.
>>57518197
>you will never tickle your scandi waifu with semen
>>57518212
Tickle with semen? At least tickle her with your dick, damn.
>>57517533
He raps about being stuck in old habits and uses some immigrant slang. He curses and spits about almost every third Swede supporting Sverigedemokraterna.
>>57517944
nigga plz
I am Icelandic.
I can trace my geneology back to 800ish AD.
I know my ancestors and sure quite a lot of them between 1600-1900 were farmers and or seamen etc, but 1000-1300 quite a lot were variously violent chieftains and before that quite a lot did go on viking raids or were chieftains in Norway and such (one was called the king of Sogn).
>>57518231
dat comes later
>>57518149
Not descendant, but cousin.
I was talking about other Icelandanon's ancestors.
>>57518241
You're a darling.
>>57518193
Do you have anything relevant to say, Muslim?
>>57518241
>>57518264
here, my angry and scary Chieftain
>>57518241
>800ish
Ég næ aftur til 750, reyndu betur núbbi
>>57518241
>my family were farmers during the peace times
>my family fought during the war times
So basically, you're like most people from Europe/the world/universe.
>>57518282
already did,carry on
>>57516213
>>57516269
Probably a reason they chose him as the lead. The history is murky and borders in myth. Plus it seems every major viking leader during the heathen invasion of England claimed to be his son. Its probably like Siegfried or King Arthur where there is some truth in that they are a combination of a variety of historical figures with a fuck ton of pure myth added.
>>57518111
>>guy has Norse name
The names have been Norseified and the ones that haven't been are just Scandi words for different weather phenomena. The names being in Norse format only makes sense given that we're talking about Norse sagas, it doesn't mean they were the original ones.
>>57518111
>>rules over a Norse kingdom and its Finnish colonies
Do you have any proof it isn't the other way around? I mean, hell, even Al-Idrisi wrote of Finnish kings and their possessions in Norway.
>>57518241
WUZ
>>57517960
It pretends to be accurate.
But its cringeworthy shit
Just imagine a film about DeRuyters admiral guy wearing Waffen SS uniforms on board the Titanic fighting homo pleasure cruise ships.
Thats about the same as waching this Vikings show...
>>57518295
Is my toilet clean yet?
>>57518264
howd you manage to trace you lineage back so far?
>>57518111
>guy has Norse name
>rules over a Norse kingdom and its Finnish colonies
>"guys he was Fingolian"
Kinda like Rurik? Yeah, thats not a finnish name either.
>Genetic investigation
See also: List of haplogroups of historical and famous figures § N (Y-DNA)
According to the FamilyTreeDNA Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project, Rurik appears to have belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup N1c1, based on testing of his modern male line descendants.[6] N1c1 is not widely found in Scandinavian countries, but is overwhelmingly found among Baltic and Finnish ethnicities. The N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, also rarely found in Scandinavia.[citation needed] The closest relatives of the Rurikid haplotype are found in coastal Finland, among the Swedish-speaking Finns.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik
get rekt fag :DD
>>57518295
Good post mum
>>57516421
So have you guys. Pretty everyone with a film industry makes up shit. Hell Wagner which is opera had horned vikings.
>>57518329
You're not adding anything to the discussion. Go away you dumb Serb.
>>57518360
I'm sorry your people weren't literate back then.
But at least you have some body paint and such to cover your breasts with
>>57518387
KEK
Scandicucks on suicide watch
>>57518417
what discussion
>>57516047
what a nice cat
>>57518042
No, because this show is called vikings and is about vikings during the viking era. That they portray them directly wrong is not comparable to not mentioning them.
>>57518361
Where does it claim to be accurate? For fucks sake there is a fuckload of supernatural/prophetical crap in the show.
It is obviously a fictitious entertainment show loosely based on real events, and it never claims anything but. You just need to get off your cultural high horse.
>>57516398
Yeah but their hair even if it was light brown would have bleached which isn't swarthy.
>>57518361
not really the same thing
>>57518361
>It pretends to be accurate.
It's not described as a documentary, it doesn't pretend to be anything other than a fictional TV show. You're literally projecting things onto the show so you can justify hating it more.
>>57518387
>Swedish-speaking Finns
A.k.a. Swedes
>>57518356
>Do you have any proof it isn't the other way around?
Gotland was named first, with the others being mentioned later. Queen Elizabeth isn't called the queen of Canada, England and Scotland.
>>57518437
>my people
I ave literally nothing to do with abos Eyjafjallajökull.
I am Australian and before that English.
>>57518509
>Swedish-speaking_FINNS_
You're fucking dense aren't you? :D:D
>>57518371
You haven't even seen my final form
>>57518550
>Swedish-speakers in Finland
>Not Swedish
Good joke mate
>>57518509
Actually, Queen Elizabeth is called the Queen of Canada. She has different titles in each of the the relevant realms she is queen over. Here, she's the Queen of Australia.
Czech m9.
>>57518565
Feels bad man, Only thing i have is some book that traces my mothers side of my family back to the 1500s, thats all.
>>57518371
By being an inbred island retard it seems.
>>57518182
Kek. Read up on the actual appearances of Northmen. They were the metrosexuals of their day. Often shorter or styled hair and many were clean shaven, bathed weekly unlike filthy Christians, used ear spoons to clean out earwax, etc.
STOP
BULLY
FINLAND
>>57517673
we wuz vykangz!
>>57518472
No this Vikings show is EVEN WORSE I am afraid.
>>57518496
Sure but then you could make a fictional movie about your ancestors except they'd wear kimonos, eat whalemeat and talk klingon and sure it would look like it would make sense to you...
>>57518509
>A.k.a. Swedes
Jesus Christ you're dense
>According to the FamilyTreeDNA Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project, Rurik appears to have belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup N1c1, based on testing of his modern male line descendants.[6] N1c1 is not widely found in Scandinavian countries, but is overwhelmingly found among Baltic and Finnish ethnicities. The N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, also rarely found in Scandinavia.[citation needed] The closest relatives of the Rurikid haplotype are found in coastal Finland, among the Swedish-speaking Finns.[7]
>Baltic and Finnish ethnicities
>rarely found in Scandinavia.
Swedish-speaking Finns are mostly people that shifted their language tbqh, which is apparent from genetics. Also Swedish didn't even exist back in the 800s, I mean hell, Proto-Germanic isn't even 2000 years old.
>>57518530
>before that English.
and that's why you are butthurt about vikings
>>57518603
>Australian flag
I've been diddled again
>>57518619
He´s mad cause he can´t trace his family back more than 200 years
>>57518620
These descriptions differ greatly. They were known to seldom shower in texts from the middle east.
>>57518509
yeah because when you start speaking arabic you become arab
>>57517492
it's not fine because they took it way too far
and unfortunately a lot of foreigners who don't know any better will believe the shit they see on history channel and they will think that shield maidens were a common thing because yes, some people are really that stupid
>>57518646
>No this Vikings show is EVEN WORSE
no because de Ruyter with SS uniform is completely different era atleast vikings is about somewhat similar eras, people killing each other with axes. You would start rippping on the show if some axe is longer than it should be for that age, or if the cape is from some animal that didnt live there
>>57518030
Isn't that the Swabian knot? Different tribes did different things. The Franks didn't cut their hair. The Normans had short back & sides with long bangs (Bjorn's haircut isn't that far off).
>>57518670
I'm not butthurt about the Vikings at all lad, in fact I'm defending the show. I'm laughing at this >WeWuzVykyngz Icelandic here.
I'm probably descended from Vikings, but I won't claim is as a concrete fact.
>>57518660
>talking about Rurik
>when the discussion is about a Gotish king
ADD to the max
>>57518735
How much does it frustrate you that people believe something that is false? How much does it impact your daily life?
>>57518620
Scandicucks >>57518712 on suicide watch
>>57518619
Dont worry Finland you can be Vikings too.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd
>>57518646
abbos wearing kimonos and talking klingon =/= vikings with different kind of axes and wearing a wrong kind of cape
>>57518369
I could bash your fucking head in, little manlet fuck.
>>57518767
Revisionism is not a problem to you?
>>57518646
You've got to stop with this ridiculous hyperbole. Nobody gives a fuck about your meaningless, autistic over-analysis of things that you probably don't even have an accurate knowledge of yourself.
>>57518439
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Looks exactly like Ukrainians
>>57518767
it's an annoyance that I mentioned right now as a matter of fact
of course I don't lose sleep over it but I can state the fact that the show is misleading
>>57518816
You know the truth, isn't that enough?
>>57518714
>Implying Finland won't be the first one to Speak Arab
Enjoy being jihaded by Swedistan
>>57518768
The meme is literally that we never shower, the american is just confused.
>>57518786
I thought Dutch people could read englisc?
please refer to my earlier posts before making such a half arsed reply.
>>57518796
>Pooland
>>57518834
It's not enough.
>>57518834
Not at all. You don't have a problem with revisionism?
>>57517866
>>57517944
This along with Merchants and Fisherman. Also if you think the average soldier in Europe (Christian or pagan) at that time was clad in mail and all that armor your delusional. That was how nobles, the wealthy and mercenaries dressed. The average person was lucky to have a leather cap and leather for their torso. Armor was expensive.
Claimed as my anglo/viking-fu
do not steal
she's in vikings right?
Oi lads, seeing as English is unofficially >the language of Germanics
How long before English is used widespread in Scandinavia?
>>57518895
>revisionism
A fictional TV show isn't revisionism.
>>57518861
FUCKING SHIT ANGLOS THEY RUIN MY HERITAGE THEY SAY MY ANCESTORS WHO WERE COLD BLOODED BAD ASS VIKANGZ HAD WOMEN FIGHTING BUT WOMEN AINT FIGHTING ONLY MEN WERE VIKANGZ
>>57518938
When the general consencus comes from tv shows, it is.
>>57518923
it already is
>>57518923
>How long before English is used widespread in Scandinavia?
T minus ten years.
>>57518923
everyone uses English in Scandinavia
it's already racist to use their traditional language around Scandinavian POC
I'm the king of Norway :DDDD
Just Imagine him saying "Benis :D" in the show
>>57518873
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
>>57518923
everyone speaks english in scandinavia
>>57518966
>consencus
*consensus
Also, still no.
>>57519009
im glad you understood it still
>>57518966
but the general consensus doesnt come from tv shows, thats why its called a SHOW. not a informative program, not the news, not a DOCUMENTARY, ITS CALLED A SHOW FOR ENTERTAINMENT
>>57518938
the show is a mix of fiction and history actually
so for someone who is not familiar with this will have a very hard time knowing what is history and what is fiction
>>57518990
in inside im a black man
t. peter franzén
>>57509170
/thread
>>57519106
people who are interested in this kind of SHOWS will not assume that most of it is true
>>57517678
When is Ragnar gonna say "please clap"? I bet he carries around little wooden turtles in his pouches.
>>57519106
Not the TV shows fault, it doesn't go masquerading itself as a documentary on Viking history.
>>57518241
Do you realize how many people are descended from someone in the 11th century? Hell omeif my friends is illegitimately descended from a more recent Danish King. Sounds impressive till you realize said King had over a 100 hundred illegitimate children in Copenhagen alone. Also, isn't everyone on Iceland distant cousins and the detailed records are to insure agaimst significant inbreeding?
>>57519086
it doesn't matter what it is called when they mix fictin and facts like this, people(not the geniuses that frequent /int/) will look upon it as pretty historically accurate. Nice capslock usage, I've seen this technique perfected on reddit.
>>57519086
yeah, a show about historical events with historical people put into the show
and then, you can of course argue that some events are fiction but what about the culture that is displayed in the show
the show is for example exaggerating the importance of women, how much power they had and what roles they had in viking society
it's "subtle" things like that which has women all over the world thinking women kicked ass in the norse society
>>57518509
>The island is the home of the Gutes (the tribal name of the Gotlandic people), and sites such as Ajvide show that it has been occupied since prehistory.[11] A DNA study conducted on the 5,000-year-old skeletal remains of three Middle Neolithic seal hunters from Gotland showed that they were related to modern-day Finns
inbred scandicucks on suicide watch :^)
>>57516047
lmao, Fingols
>Ching chong wing fong, we are whito, Americu-Sama!
>>57518264
>Not descendant, but cousin.
Any my ancestors were cousins of John Quincy Adam's children and John Smith's Father(though it's not publicly talked about) cousin means shit desu.
>>57519193
>hurr durr I don't agree with you
>I won't provide evidence that shows that people get influenced from ENTERTAINMENT SHOWS
>I can't do anything at this point so I will just spout reddit XD elemeo
>>57519145
that's optimistic, to say the least
>>57519170
it's a show on HISTORY CHANNEL based on real historic events with real historical people thrown into the mix
>>57519106
>the show is a mix of fiction and history actually
It is still a fictional show. Because it has a basis in history does not make it not a fictional show.
>>57519271
Just because it's on the history channel doesn't mean all their programs are documentaries. They produced Ancient Alies for fucks sake
Vikings is a fictitious program loosely based on real characters and events. That's how it advertises itself and that's how it is. It never claimed to be a detailed documentary on actual vikings.
>>57519319
Kaiser of Poland. He will unite Eastern Germanics with Western ones.
>>57519345
Ancient Aliens*
>>57518704
I actually can trace it back for 500 years, and yeah. It's fully finnish.
>>57507700
>that chin
So the only reason you guys hate an entertainment show is because it doesnt have the same historical accuracy of an documentary? What if you look to the show without
>muh historical correctness
what do you think about it then?
>>57519257
You really think because it's called entertainment it doesn't influence people?
This is not directly related to historical drama, but pretty fucking relevant. You're spamming the same word over and over in caps lock, I don't see what makes it any better.
http://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1243&context=srhonorsprog
>>57518361
It's solely dramatic entertainment. Go watch a documentary or make your own show. Also, historical records authenticity from that period are if questionable accuracy. Snorri (while important) was born in 1241 long after most of the things he wrote about.
>>57519292
>>57519345
yes it's fiction but people still learn about vikings from this show
they see their long boats. they used long boats irl
the see vikings plundering lindisfarne. vikings did that too
they see vikings using shield maidens on many occations. how can an average pleb with no knowledge know that vikings didnt use shield maidens irl?
>>57519413
>the only reason you guys hate an entertainment show is because it doesnt have the same historical accuracy of an documentary?
but that's a pretty good reason to dislike it
you can't really trivialize it
>>57519413
No i say the word entertainment over and over again because thats the only reason the show has historical inaccuracies, and thats the reason that you cant blame the show
>>57518784
Some of us actually were, if you really think we had no contact with them you're more than ignorant. aka, fucking stupid.
>>57517866
Sadly, the closest representation you'll get to that noadays is the Ironborn on Game of Cucks
>Ironborn are based as fuck
>>57519467
Then if people interpret facts from a fictional program the onus and fault is entirely on them.
I suppose you have an issue with Transformers 3 because it said that the USA landed on the moon because of the Transformers. Truths with some fiction added on
>inb4 conspiracy
I guess the Da Vinci Code as well is extremely poor and should be frowned upon?
>>57518371
They have recorded a lot of info to avoid inbreeding. Tracing it in Iceland is easy for this fact (plus rampaging foreign armies weren't burning their town hall and homes down like in Europe).
>>57519467
>how can an average pleb with no knowledge know that vikings didnt use shield maidens irl?
The show has zero responsibility for that. If you want to know the history, you can read about it in books.
Literally all shows portray things inaccurately. What, you want to just ban television altogether?
>>57519526
You also argued it doesn't influence people because it is entertainment, which is a fucking outrageous claim.
>>57519540
Lakkaa vihaamasta itseäsi äläkä leiki viikinkiä
>>57519590
>The show has zero responsibility for that.
this desu, rip on the people who think its real, not the show making something thats meant for entertainment
>>57519610
>viikinkiä
>vikings confirmed for being kinki
>>57519555
I don't have the same issue with transformers because transformers doesn't base itself on real events.
I mean, how would you react if a show about the romans had female gladiators? Or Female samurai warriors and so on..
>>57519637
I agree, but this is you backpedalling from
>>57519257
>>57518439
Looks like a steppe riding Mongol desu.
>>57518241
Your ancestors were the siblings of my ancestors, except yours were raped.
>>57519599
I said general consensus doesnt come from entertainment shows, thats why there are informative shows, news boradcasts and documentaries, thats where people get their knoweledge, you say people just copy things blatantly because the vikings show says it
>>57519590
>The show has zero responsibility for that.
It doesn't have legal responsibility.
But imo it has moral responsibility.
>>57518030
True, the Suevian knot it's called
nice pic
>>57519668
see
>>57519692
im not backpaddeling from the fact that you said that general people think that this kind of shows portray historical accuracy, which is not true
>>57519732
>general people think that this kind of shows portray historical accuracy, which is not true
none of you can say which is true, truth is you can't possibly know what viewers out there are thinking
but we know from past experiences that SOME PEOPLE learn their history from movies and tv shows instead of history books
>>57519666
>I mean, how would you react if a show about the romans had female gladiators? Or Female samurai warriors and so on..
Nobody would give two shits, except historical autists.
Also,
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20151120-did-female-gladiators-exist
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/04/120419-female-gladiator-statue-topless-science-ancient-rome/
http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_murray_0703.htm
>>57519712
>But imo it has moral responsibility.
Yeah, and opinions are like arseholes.
Also, moral responsibility is a code word for white genocide.
>>57519666
>666
confirmed for Varg
>>57518751
I suddenly got a vision of Balkan germanics with square heads and huge mullets.
Must have been the Balkan music on my tracker that inspired it.
>>57519803
>Nobody would give two shits, except historical autists.
haha yeah it's so autistic to care about what really happened lmao just turn your brain off
>>57519798
>none of you can say which is true
so you can't either
>but we know from past experiences that SOME PEOPLE learn their history from movies and tv shows instead of history books
Then its save to say that enough people do no think that these shows portray historical accuracy and DO learn from real sources
>>57519610
http://yle.fi/uutiset/suomalaisetko_viikinkeja_tuore_tutkimus_kertoo_viikinkiajasta_suomessa/7971315
http://yle.fi/uutiset/metallinpaljastimet_nostivat_viime_vuonna_esiin_tuhatvuotiaan_kotkakorun_viikinkihopeaa_ja_roomalaisajan_asekatkon/8564263
En larppaa, mutta otappa aivot käteen.
Jos Rurik oli ns, viikinki ja suomen sukuinen. Niin eikö se meinaa että jotku meistä todellakin oli viikinkejä?>>57518387
Luuletko että täältä ei viety orjia tai sotureita mihinkään? Tai ettei käyty kauppaa muutakun poron-nussijoiden kanssa? Osa venäjän perustajista oli myös suomensukuisia, ja vittu venäjän perusti viikingit.
Että ime sykkivää. Täälläkin oli varmasti rannikolla matkaajaa vaikka mihin vitun suuntaan.
>>57519899
no, it's not safe to say that
you have no empirical evidence
>>57519860
its only important when you are making something that is meant to be accurate about what really happened like a documentary, but ineed, it is not important when you are making something that is meant for entertainment
>>57519860
>haha yeah it's so autistic to care about what really happened lmao
In works of fiction? It absolutely is.
Do you do the same anally retentive critique with Inglorious Basterds because you're worried people might think Hitler got killed in some French cinema?
>>57518670
British or Irish ancestory would arguably mean he probably had at least one Viking ancestor
>>57519937
the evidence are people with common sense like you, me and that strayan cunt
>>57518712
Well yes because Muslims are supposed to wash regularly and the Norse washed once a week. So they would have seen that as filthy. It still however is better than never washing.
>>57519947
it's impossible to make a show about a group of people that doesn't show how they lived their lives, what they were up to and how they behaved etc.
>>57519214
Funny. When I claimed Tacitus' Fenni, where he calls them extremely primitive and more animal then man, were ancestors of current Finns, half Finland was all over me claiming that that was impossible because current Finn ancestors lived in the Baltics and NW Russia.
And now suddenly they were Goths and have been living there all along?
(I still say Tacitus' Fenni = Finns great*30-granddaddies)
>>57518846
It seems you are the confused one, I said they did bathe once a week. Also, it seems they bleached their hair too adding to the metrosexual image.
http://www.danishnet.com/vikings/cleanliness-did-vikings-take-baths/
>>57520241
they looked so handsome and were so masculine that british women preferred them over british men
that's what being an alpha male is all about
at least they weren't covered in mud like the brits
>>57519916
Ei ne ole mitään suomensukuisia. Haploryhmät ei sitä määrää.
>>57520216
ancient finns were everywhere
>>57520216
>>57520438
>"In wonderful savageness live the nation of the Fenni, and in beastly poverty, destitute of arms, of horses, and of homes; their food, the common herbs; their apparel, skins; their bed, the earth; their only hope in their arrows, which for want of iron they point with bones. Their common support they have from the chase, women as well as men; for with these the former wander up and down, and crave a portion of the prey. Nor other shelter have they even for their babes, against the violence of tempests and ravening beasts, than to cover them with the branches of trees twisted together; this a reception for the old men, and hither resort the young. Such a condition they judge more happy than the painful occupation of cultivating the ground, than the labour of rearing houses, than the agitations of hope and fear attending the defense of their own property or the seizing that of others. Secure against the designs of men, secure against the malignity of the Gods, they have accomplished a thing of infinite difficulty; that to them nothing remains even to be wished."
>>57520372
>N1c1 is not widely found in Scandinavian countries, but is overwhelmingly found among Baltic and Finnish ethnicities.
Ei sitten, asuttiin mongoolimökeissä, juotiin poronkusta alasti ja syötiin paskaa kunnes ruotsin herrat tuli sivistään meidät kristinuskolla.
>Lakkaa vihaamasta itseäsi
top kek :D
>>57520438
I wonder what the fuck the original meaning of Finnar even was. The creation of modern Finns is a pretty recent event linguistically. Genetically not that much.
http://terheninenmaa.blogspot.fi/2016/03/two-fold-ancestry-of-finnish-people.html
>>57520438
>>57520498
>>57520663
>>57520687
http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/finland.html
>mfw Finns are actually Khazar kikes
>>57520601
Mitä sä oikein höpötät? Puhut nyt jotain ihan omia. Mä vaan kommentoin että haplot, ellei ne ole vasta periytynyt joltain, ei kuulu kenellekään.
N1c1 Euroopan puussa löytyy kaks isoa haaraa: yhdessä muodostu itäsuomalaiset myöhemmin ja sitten taas skandi/baltti/varsinaissuomalaiset varhaisemmin.
>>57520844
>The N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, also rarely found in Scandinavia.[citation needed] The closest relatives of the Rurikid haplotype are found in coastal Finland, among the Swedish-speaking Finns.[7]
Mitä et ymmärrä? Oha tossa kuvassaski jo vittu vieri viereen rurikids ja suomalaiset.
Siitä vaan höpötän että jengi vieläkin uskoo jotain ruottalaisten paskaa propagandaa vuodelta nakki eikä oo perillä mm. vaikka viimevuonna löydetyistä setteistä Suomessa.
SUOMESSA, ei vittu ruotsissa.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/metallinpaljastimet_nostivat_viime_vuonna_esiin_tuhatvuotiaan_kotkakorun_viikinkihopeaa_ja_roomalaisajan_asekatkon/8564263
Toivottavasti se ajatusmalli tulee muuttumaan, että olisimme olleet metsäläisiä ja että ruotsalaiset tulivat pelastamaan meidät.
– Jussi Nieminen
Eikait siinä. Luotan mielummin ihan legitteihin historijoitsijoihin mielummin ku suhun.
>>57519365
Truly a great man. The socks with sandals is ankce touch. Before that picture I though only Krauts dressed like that.
>>57521330
it's akshually a big meme in Poland.
it indicates average Polish Janusz
>>57519467
>know that vikings didnt use shield maidens irl?
IIRC it's hard to accurately write about Norse women from the Viking age since no one cared to mention anything of value regarding them. Most knowledge of them is based on archeology.
>>57519666
>transformers doesn't base itself on real events.
Lies!!!
>>57521125
Ei meilä ole mitään todisteita heidän kielellisestä taustasta. On myös hyvin mahdollista että tuo VL29-haara kuvassa ei kantanut minkäänlaista siperialaista perimää. Lue kommenttiosio:
http://terheninenmaa.blogspot.fi/2016/03/two-fold-ancestry-of-finnish-people.html
>>57519803
>female gladiator
Hot.
>>57520343
Saxons must have smelled so bad then.
>>57521548
Mitä sillä kielellä nyt on väliä?
Kysymys oli siitä että onko suomalasten esi-isiä ollut viikinkeinä, onko se nyt niin mahdoton idea että osallistuttiin ja oltiin niitten kans tekemisissä? mm, suurella osalla suomalaisista on jopa ruotsalaista verta suonet täynnä, vittu eikö se vähän niinku tee niistä "viikinkejä". En ymmärrä mitä vittua nyt ajat takaa. Oot varmaan näitä jäbiä jotka on soldiers of odineittenki sukujuurista ja taustoista ja perinteistä selvillä :DD "miksei soldiers of ukko perkele?????"
Eiköhän niihin jotku liittyny ryöstöretkille ja raiskattavaksi täältäkin. Niinkuin jo aijemmin kerroin ja osoitin että ei oltu niitä "poron kusen imailijoita" niinkuin ruotsalaiset on iät ja ajat väittäny.
>>57521883
No siis, tuossa alussahan te väititte N1c1 skandihaaran olevan suomalaissukuisia, mille ei löydy mitään todisteita. Ei mulla muuta.
>>57521925
>The N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, also rarely found in Scandinavia
Mitä et ymmärrä?
>Rurikid haplotype are found in coastal Finland, among the Swedish-speaking Finns.[7]
Mitä et ymmärrä? Swedish-speaking Finns = Ruotsia puhuvat suomalaiset.
Puhuttiin siitä onko suomalaisia ollu viikinkeinä, kyllä tuo meikän mielestä aika vitusti todistelee sitä että on, jos nää vitun rurikikeiden lähimmät sukulaiset löytyy nykyään Suomesta.
Mikä tossa jutussa nyt on niin mahdotonta?
>>57521925
Varmaan joku 20% kavereistakin omistaa ruotsalaisia sukujuuria yms, silti ne on ihan yhtä suomalaisia ku minäki. Ja niitten esi-isät on nyt sitten hyväksytysti viikinkejä? Ku ruotsista kerran olivat?
