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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://bitlasers.com/djt

Previous Thread:
>>139052943
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Read the Bible. Work hard and honestly. And don't complain.
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How many pages of Yotsuba will you read today?
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Reposting from last thread.

Finished going through the CoR's links.

Damage report on the mass deletion that occurred last night:
- 漫画: 336 of the 897 manga were deleted (561 remaining)
- 小説: A few text format LNs and one of the collections at the top. I may of missed a few when going through and marking, but most of the dead text format LNs can be found in the collections at the top though since that's where they came from, so it's not as bad as it looks. If anyone happened to download the missing collection pack at the top, then feel free to upload that because that basically means we lost nothing in the 小説 tab.
- 映画: Most of the movies were deleted
- 教本: All in One Learning Pack and the DoJG deck mega link (also includes individual entry note scan images and an index PDF)

The manga was really the only big hit (I doubt the movie tab was used much compared to the other tabs), but it's not too bad compared to the previous times he's done this. I'm sure someone has backups of the DoJG stuff and the learner pack.

Again, if anyone has a backup of the missing LN pack (named "AWZ3/EPUB/MOBI Collection" in the CoR and the one next to it, but pretty sure that one was just the other collections merged into one), then if you re-upload that, that essentially means we lost pretty much nothing in the 小説 tab.

tl;dr - It's not too bad. If you have missing stuff, upload it and send it to feedback.
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>DJT
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It's fine to take a break every now and again.
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Might as well ask here but what does it say, my jap isn't good enough yet. I only know that I have to start it up again but after what?
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Reminder we will all surely become fluent
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>>139083993
After you learn the pleasure of being cummed inside
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Reposting this a last time before I'll get around to finishing everything up and implementing it on sunday.

Please leave a comment in the guide if there's anything regarding a specific part of it (e.g. wording in some phrase, a dead link etc). If you have anything you want to ask or discuss or just say I'll be glad to talk about it here, or you can send me an email.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H8lw5gnep7B_uZAbHLfZPWxJlzpykP5H901y6xEYVsk/edit?usp=sharing

Happy learning.
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>>139084136
You got a couple comments in the feedback form. You should have edit access to respond to them (use the Newfag tab to respond, the ReverseSort tab just echos that and sorts it / changes the date format)
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>>139084268
Ah yes, I remember seeing your email this morning.

Thanks, I'll get back to you soon.
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>>139083747
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Kleds1QBNA
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>>139084329
No big deal, was just making sure you saw it.
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>>139083993
The time setting on your device is different than the actual time. If the time is incorrect, sometimes some options like the ranking are not reflected correctly. Please set the correct time, and restart the application.
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>>139084370
>I can't be frozen I'm scared

that's not right, is it?
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>>139084370

no understando japanizu please english
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I still don't understand what 夢中 is supposed to mean in a non-erotic sentence.
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>>139084782
When you so passionate/enthusiastic about something, that you are almost 'forget about yourself'.
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>>139084782
Just look up the English definitions of daze, trance, ecstasy, delirium and/or engrossment.

If you don't know how these words work in English in a non-sexual context then you need to brush up on your English.
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what happened to the cornucopia? did the owner freak out again?
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>>139084370
>出来ないなんて言ってたら、嫌いになっちゃうよ

Did I get that right?
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>>139085242
Yeah, it's the same guy who was trying to get DJT banned earlier.
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>>139085350
yes
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>>139085242
I don't see anything wrong with it?
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>>139085350
Yes.
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>>139085423
why does this keep happening? i thought we specifically spread the links out through a bunch of accounts held by different people for this specific purpose
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>>139085242
Not the guy who maintains the CoR, just a guy who uploaded a lot of the stuff that was in it.

From last thread:
>The guy who flipped out over the Sakura image, the guy who was spamming fake DJT threads and spamming the previous thread thread before it with fake questions/posts, the guy who "maintained" the DoJG and argued over the formatting and stuff constantly, and old CoRくん who deleted all of the CoR's contents on two different occasions when DJT made him mad before? They're all the same person.
>And the /qa/ thread. He also made the /qa/ thread.

Notice written at the top of the CoR:
>Note: A large chunk of the links have been removed by the individual who uploaded them. If you have backups, feel free to upload and submit them. Dead links marked in red at the bottom of the sheet.
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>>139085478
Which is why all of the stuff he didn't upload is still fine. It's not nearly as bad as it was the last two times.
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>>139085484
Well, it's better than getting fucked with copyright strikes. Fuck him, though. I helped set the thing back up last time he pulled this, and I've uploaded some of my own stuff to it as well.
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>>139085547
The stuff you uploaded should still be there at least. A bit of a shame how much is gone if no one has backups, though.
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>>139083819
Is it any of these?
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>>139085484
Which DoJG guy were you referring about? The guy that made a recent revision to the DoJG deck format, or the guy who endlessly complained about DoJG format?
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>>139085751
I'm guessing the latter. This guy seems to have some weird power trip complex about DJT.
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>>139085484
That can't be right

The CoR maintainer is super cool
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For example, I have low retention on the word 輪郭 because it's the only word in my whole deck with 郭, I barely see 郭 while reading (if ever really), etc. So that's where I think problems arise in pure mining decks. There's got to be care taken for the scattered kanji that appear in just one word in your deck.
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Do you guys bother memorizing stroke order when learning kanji? I know the general rules, more or less, but I figure I'm probably never going to handwrite Japanese. I barely handwrite anything in English.
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>>139085793
Nah it wasn't him. There have been multiple maintainers over time, the current one isn't the one who did this.
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>>139085793
>The CoR maintainer is super cool
Uh no? He argued all the time and was very unpleasant to other people. Dude did a good thing but unfortunately we all fall prey to out individual failings and his failing is being argumentative, and subsequently nasty if it goes on too long.
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>>139085736
What's the 15GB manga and LN rips?
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>>139085736
where did you get the azw3 novels? Mind sharing?
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>>139085894
At least he can't hurt us as badly as he could before. We will persevere.
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>>139085854
I only learn a kanji stroke order if I intend on writing that kanji, which is extremely rare for me.

However the kanji I've memorized the stroke order for have become completely engraved into my subconscious as a result. So I think it's a good tool for memorizing kanji if you're willing to put in the effort.
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>>139085894
Are you mixing me up with someone else / one of the old CoR maintainers? Someone last thread was mixing me up too.

>>139085736
I think the first 2 are the collections at the top that are still there. Not sure about 小説.zip or the 16gb zip though.
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To the anon in the last thread who was all "wha kanji have more than 1 reading?"

Read through these pages, it helps put things into perspective a bit.
http://www.zompist.com/yingzi/yingzi.htm
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/kanji
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>>139085484
>>139085785
Cool. Some people also said in #1475 that the guy that is actively against imouto is also the same guy. Is that true or was that a wrong guess?
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>>139083819
I have 205 GB of cor stuff backed up, mostly manga. It's all I got before my ISP blocked me from downloading from mega. I can't figure out how to show a list of all titles though since there's so many
>>139086030
I was referring to the original CoR guy which is who I thought he was referring to.
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>>139085922
Looking inside it, seems to be the AWZ3/EPUB/MOBI Collection, or at least contains it, there's some raw manga and light novels in epub(renamed to .rar).
>>139085944
Sure, will probably take a while thanks to my 3rd world internet.
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>It's all I got before my ISP blocked me from downloading from mega.
That can happen?
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>>139086093
Nobody really knows, but following the general "overly negative and bitter anon who wastes their time posting as such" style...
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>>139086107
I will be eternally grateful for you uploading this, didn't know there was kindle format shit on the CoR!
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>>139086125
I downloaded all 205 gb in a couple afternoons, and for a month after that they limited my speeds to extremely low. Maybe I hit one of those invisible caps. Anyway, I didn't move on to download the rest because a month of dogshit speeds was annoying and they may be watching me now.
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>>139086176
Oh, that's just something that Mega does. I don't blame you for being paranoid though.
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>>139086107
That looks to be the folder that got deleted. If that gets re-uploaded to a mega folder (just like that should be fine since that's how it was before), then everything from the LN tab should be back (most if not all of the dead links in the LN tab are also in that collections, so if you want to re-do the links to those too you can, but it's not really a big deal).
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>>139086126
Looking back, I should've do more Anki or reading than reading some of those arguments in real time. Well, live and learn I guess.
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>>139086202
No, I mean, my speed for other websites went to shit too.
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>>139086176
>>139086202
Or wait, you meant your entire internet speed. Damn, that's shit. Who's your ISP?
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>>139085827
I just look up every new kanji on jisho and add the most common words to internalize it better
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>>139086290
TWC
I was just extrapolating though, at the time there was news in my state of invisible data caps hitting people.
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Anyone need me to upload a torrent of the azw3 shit somewhere?
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>>139086415
Oh nevermind looks like somebody is uploading already
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>>139086415
Do you mean the 15GB folder in >>139086107 ? That would be great. There's a ~500MB collection of azw3 files still in the CoR:

https://mega.nz/#F!iJESRCJD!WM2kQRMwlgc8Asc3UiwBVA
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What I've got looks like this. As you can see I started putting them into folders but holy fuck it's so tedious and it'll probably take multiple hours. Any idea on how to coordinate identifying which missing manga I have?
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>>139086637
I have this
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Why is it 朝ご飯 instead of 朝御飯?
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>>139086735
It's both
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>>139086666
The missing manga are all at the bottom of the manga sheet, but beyond making some script that compares the filenames to a list, I'm not sure.
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>>139086048
So, radicals do indeed represent letters? DJT has been lying to me all along.
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>>139086790
Well, bad news. It seems every single one of those manga were added after I did my download spree (or something) because I have literally none of them.
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>>139086806
Radicals /can/ indicate on reading, but it's not consistent. There's several layers of distortion between the components and the on reading:

1) Only one, if any, of the atomic components in a kanji might indicate its on reading, and the rest are noise
2) Atomic components usually build bigger components which slightly deviate, recursively, and then the character itself deviates from the biggest one
3) Time changes all.
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how long do the kataganas take?
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>>139086715
We would need that if >>139086107 isn't uploading his 15GB file. Are you, >>139086107-kun?
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>>139087104
This much ( )
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>>139086094
on windows do dir "path to manga" on linux/mac ls -l "path to manga"
to get it in txt form
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>>139087168
I am >>139086107 >>139087168
Currently uploading the 15 GB file but alas, this is probably gonna take at least half a day to upload.
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>>139087245
How do you save that to output?
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>>139087053
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>>139087168
>>139087312
I meant, I am >>139086107 >>139086107
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>>139087168
No, I think he's uploading it already.
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>>139087347
right click and copy paste or add " > c:\path\list.txt " to redirect to file (without quotes)
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>>139087415
btw > will create/overwrite to file
while >> will create/append to file
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>>139087415
Thanks.

Well, here's the data http://pastebin.com/t5X95vNJ

I checked 40~ some of the missing manga and had none so I assumed I had none in general. But if anyone wants to double check be my guest
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>>139083938
Would the meaning stay the same if you removed 一日? Since she opens with 今日も
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>>139087506
I found one, AKIRA. None of the others I checked randomly though.
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>>139087682
I've got to go now so I dont have time to upload it but I'll check back and see if I have anything else.
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>>139087648

>Today, too, is one (more) day I'll do my darndest!
>Today, too, I'll do my darndest!

Basically.
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Guys I really need some help with something

The context is that there's this wife (さおり) and she's cheating on her husband with his brother (健二),
the brother's currently fingering her asshole (and pretending that he's just examining her hence the 調べる)

これ以上調べられたら私のアナル・・・
・・・ばれちゃう・・・・
主人にも健二さんにも!
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へへへ~
何がばれるって?
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違うの!
決して違うの!!さおりのアナルは!

The first part that confuses me is the "主人にも健二さんにも!"
I'm guessing the ばれる is being used because it can mean to leak secrets or to like leak shit everywhere? But why would anything be getting leaked to 健二 since he's right there

And then after he says "何がばれるって?" obviously meaning "what will leak out?", but then she replies with "さおりのアナルは" which makes no sense to me

Also later on she says that her asshole is 普通. Sorry for the massive post but I just can't figure it out
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>>139088219

Is the "・・・ばれちゃう・・・・" internal monologue or is all of this spoken? And the first bit is by the wife, yes?
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>>139088478
I assume it's spoken, and yeah the first bit is the wife, middle is the brother, last bit is the wife again
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>>139088219
>>139088478
Yeah I can't even tell who's saying what
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Any good books / exercises / Anki decks to get my particles and transitive / intransitive pairs straight? Listening and reading isn't a big problem, but speaking is kind of hard.
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>>139088529
Yeah sorry about that, here's the pic if it helps more, had to censor it a little bit
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>>139088647
do people fap to this
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>>139088219
>>139088526

>I'm guessing the ばれる is being used because it can mean to leak secrets or to like leak shit everywhere?

I don't think ばれる is used in that sense of "leak".

I think it means this, more or less. This is just a guess, mind you, I am no expert.

>I'll be found out...
>With my husband, and with 健二 too! (That I'm fucking them both)

>Ehehehe, what'll be found out, exactly? (Playing dumb)

>>139088647

What the fuck nigger.
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>>139088647
That guy looks like an Initial D character
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>>139088647
>that bend
Did he break her bones?
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>>139088647
Why on earth would you read that?
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>>139088647
To each their own.
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>>139088647
That's fucking grotesque.
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>>139088647

Holy fuck /a/non, i haven't burst out laughing from a spoiler in a while
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>>139088871
>>139088846
>>139088820
>>139088666
It's not for me, I'm translating it for someone, I thought it was pretty fucked up at first too.
I've fapped to it like 5 times though just because of the plot

>>139088711
Yeah I guess that's a possibility, how would that relate to her going on to talk about her asshole though, and saying that it's 普通? I'm really lost, this is the last part I need to do too
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>>139088977
I'm still laughing tb.h.
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>>139088919
>>139088959
>>139088977
>>139089000
C'mon guys can't you use your combined Japanese powers to help me out, someone must know what it means
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>>139088994
>>139089121
Just make something up if you're translating for someone else, how are they going to tell the difference
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>>139089163
Yeah I thought that but it's surprisingly hard to just pull some random shit out my ass, guess I don't have a choice
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>>139089121

I can't even make out the kanji for the tears in the my eyes.
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>>139088647
There are many good reasons to learn Japanese
This is not one of them
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>>139089192

>Surprisingly hard to just pull some random shit out my ass

He seems to be having the same problem with her
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>>139088994
>>139089121

Sometimes the language in bad porn is not the most sensical.
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>>139089192
just fucking go with what >>139088711 said

>I'll be found out...
>With my husband, and with 健二 too! (That I'm fucking them both)
>Ehehehe, what'll be found out, exactly? (Playing dumb)

and then she goes

>"the fact that my ass is actually a train that stops at every station"
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>>139089321

>"the fact that my ass is actually a train that stops at every station"

Here i am trying to learn Japanese when i should've been putting my English to good use instead.
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>>139089321
>With my husband, and with 健二 too! (That I'm fucking them both)
this is obviously wrong though
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>>139089823
It's all good I just made up some shit, still sounds retarded but that was only a little part of the whole thing anyway
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>>139088647
I assume that she is a naive housewife and thinks that 健二 is actually a proficient ass doctor. Thus she fears that the condition of her asshole will be exposed.
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I would like a list all of the cards from core 2k6k, like in a pastebin or something, that is easy to read and look at (so not through anki). Is there something like this available anywhere? Or perhaps I could make it myself?

The reason I'm asking is because I'd like to take a break from doing new cards sometimes soon (I'm around 50% in) because I feel like I need one (just a few days though) but first I'd like to analyze the full list and where it'd be best to stop (since words are ordered in a specific way depending on Kanji etc - if you follow me?). Thanks.
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>>139090056
Export the deck notes as txt
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>>139090046
Holy shit in a way this actually makes the most sense
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>>139089321
>the fact that my ass is actually a train that stops at every station

Added this to my Core2k/6k deck. I wonder where I'll be when I next read it.
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>>139090105
Thanks. It looks like shit though.
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>>139090056
That'll fuck up the srs system, but you can do so with an add-on called export to text or something like that.
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>>139090703
I'd rather not then, I'll just do with the .txt.

If no one does it though I'd make a clean pastebin with a vocab list of core 2k6k for DJT once I'm done. Could be handy.
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>>139090557
>>139090935
Fields are separated by tabs, so you can just copy paste it into most spreadsheet editors.
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>>139090935
He said it would fuck up the srs system as in the psychology of it. He'sd also wrong.
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>>139090935
>>139090056
I've been wanting the same thing, so I made this:

http://core6000.neocities.org/
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>>139091702
Can you change it to not be a giant table? Giant tables make firefox lock up for several seconds.
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>>139091824
Here's a bare wordlist, if that's what you want. http://pastebin.com/4LJampAv
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>>139085854

If you're just starting out, then yes do it. After like 200 kanji, you'd know the stroke order by heart.
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>>139085854
Not for every kanji, but whenever a fucked up one comes up I do.
It makes counting strokes much easier.
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>>139090703
>That'll fuck up the srs system

He's still doing reps, just not new cards. It would work fine (assuming he still does reps)
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Who's this Jamal guy?
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Is the spammer dead yet?
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Out of curiosity how long did it take most of you to be able to watch anime without subs? Say I put aside 2 hours a day for 3 months for learning, would I be semi-competent?
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家内の息子を嫌うぞ
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>>139087506
>>139086094

You can separate the new CoR links from the old ones by the link in the rightmost corner. The new ones (which you would not have) have ja wikipedia links, while the old ones have googl links. I checked all of the googl ones and found you have the following deleted manga:

名探偵コナン
ゆるゆり
AKIRA
乙嫁語り

The vast majority of deleted manga is stuff that was just added a few months ago.
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>>139093000
>Out of curiosity how long did it take most of you to be able to watch anime without subs?
At least 100 animes
>Say I put aside 2 hours a day for 3 months for learning, would I be semi-competent?
no
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>>139093000
Do you mean no more than 2 hours of Japanese each day for 3 months from the very beginning?

Because if you do, then LMAO NO
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>>139093000
Listening comprehention for gaijin is near impossible unless you either live in Japan or truely cover yourself in Japanese (I mean listenint to Japanese 24/7, the same as you would your mother tongue)

That's why the vast majority here just read VNs and mango, it's far easier than having to listen to super fast nip speak.
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Why is the "g" sound pronounced similarly to "n" in some sentences in the core6k deck? For example:
>東の空が暗いです。
It's clearly "higashi" and not "hinashi", but it's not really a hard "g" sound. Has anyone else noticed this?
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What a good resource to get started with Kanji?
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>>139094162
WaniKani.
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>>139094116
It's ŋ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmonic_consonant_chart_with_audio
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>>139093219
>Listening comprehention for gaijin is near impossible
That's dogshit. I'm just half a year in and I can understand a reasonable amount.
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>>139094162
Not WaniKani.
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>>139094116
Because it isn't a hard G sound like we have in English.
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>>139094116

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonology#Weakening

>/ɡ/ may be weakened to nasal [ŋ] when it occurs within words — this includes not only between vowels but also between a vowel and a consonant. There is a fair amount of variation between speakers, however. Some, such as Vance (1987), have suggested that the variation follows social class; others, such as Akamatsu (1997), suggest that the variation follows age and geographic location.
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>>139094116
It's called 鼻濁音
http://ysjapanese.wp-x.jp/2015/10/bidakuon/
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>>139094274
>I'm half a year in and I know what "baka" means when they say it in my anime!

sure thing
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>>139094218
>>139094287
>>139094293
>>139094294
I see, thanks.
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>>139094207
>>139094280
You guys don't make this easy
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>>139094430
Use both. Wanikani and something that isn't Wanikani. That's the only way to be sure.
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>>139094390
The second quote is basically wrong though. Or at least not applicable here
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>>139094430
Read the new guide that's being wrapped up if the current guide isn't clear enough >>139084136
Basically boils down to RTK, KD, and a couple others depending on your needs and preferences.
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>>139094430
If you can't handle contradicting dualities existing at the same time you can't learn Nippongo.
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>>139094350
Idk, mate. Maybe your problem is that you're a dumb anglo whose head can't handle foreign sounds.
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>>139084002
What is she saying?

>素晴らしい!
>????
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>>139094545
It CAN be a hard "g" sound in some cases, correct?
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>>139094274
How many languages do you speak? Maybe it has something to do with that. I can speak 2 and can easily write down almost any word I hear in Nipponese.
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>>139094661
I don't know the exakt IPA representation, but yea.
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>>139094661
Did you look at the blog post? There are recordings that show the different pronunciations.
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>>139094718
Two, and I've studied a few others.
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俺わじゃぱn
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>>139085484
>They're all the same person.
Hard to buy this -- the spamming superautist is anti-general.
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>>139094956
He claimed to be CoR-kun 2 threads ago when he was spamming fake questions and imouto posts, and shortly after that is when stuff started getting deleted. It's the same person.
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>>139094956
The guy who through a fit when people complained about the sakura image is also anti-general judging by the /qa/ thread he made, and he claimed not to be the spammer (although who knows if that is the case)
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>>139086806
No, those are indices into the dictionary.
I actually owned that giant dictionary back in the old days. It's completely obsolete now with online radical lookup, handwriting recognition, denshi jisho's, etc.
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Is there any difference between 髪 and 髪の毛? Both mean hair, don't they? Is one of them more formal than the other?

What about 方 and 方向?
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>>139094956
He got mad and decided that DJT was anti-anime and no longer belonged on /a/ when people rejected his Sakura image.
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>>139095160
I don't think that's CoR-kun since CoR-kun was originally from koohii and therefore would not have so much of a problem with a place that is more about japanese learning than anime
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>>139095274
He also said stuff old CoR-kun would have disagreed with. Either CoR-kun has seen some serious shit, or it's "just the new DoJG guy" trying to bastardize our opinion of the old CoR guy. Which I think is even more likely, because the "new DoJG guy" used to shit on the CoR.
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>>139091702
>>139092193
Original anon asking here, thanks it's perfect!
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Is anyone else studying Japanese formally?

I started at one of the best Uni's for Japanese in the UK last year. Although it probably wasn't very competitive.

I knew a little before starting but the pace is so quick I was learning new things after the first couple of weeks. It was also tough learning to write by hand but I can write about 350 kanji by now and can recognise maybe 500.

The exams are mostly translation between both languages and an essay question in Japanese. Every week we have an assessed essay question and grammar homework. I'm also taking various elective modules in things like economics and history.

I've lost all interest in Chinese cartoons since I would rather spend time studying the language directly. And I made friends with a Japanese exchange student that always answers my grammar questions.

Hopefully I can land a cushy gaijin job and have a cute hafu daughter.

がんばる
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>>139095578
Is this pasta?
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>>139095619
First thing I thought upon seeing that but google doesn't give anything.
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>>139095578
That's cool, I spoke with my professor today about the best methods for learning, memorizing, and making sure you have the basic vocabulary structure for the language you are studying.
He told me that there was no one method fits all, but that there are general techniques; so I brought up a question of pace. Again - a matter of personal comfort and the ability to maintain the lifestyle as it fits.

He recommended me some journals to read, and when I mentioned WaniKani, his face lit up. He said he wanted to include it in our beginning year, but that the faculty couldn't purchase the right to distribute the service at a discounted price.

I told him that some people I was learning Japanese with on an internet forum thought WaniKani was far too slow. He scoffed at this, and the idea of anki as well. He told me that WaniKani is highly useful for a solid start, and the method used in it has been a great success worldwide.

I agree with him, but what do you reckon. I mean, he IS a language professor, and the idea that he'd skimp out on a dedicated language degree is absurd.
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>>139093000
Most SoL I can watch them just fine. Not 100% understanding, but I can watch them and understand them enough to get by. For action, fantasy series I give up. The tech terms are too much for me.
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>>139095997

I mean Wanikani isn't BAD, but it doesn't give you the freedom that Anki does.
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>>139095997
I have read this somewhere before.
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>>139095997
>He scoffed at this, and the idea of anki as well

Aren't wanikani and anki basically the same thing, just with more flexibility offered by the latter?
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>>139096177
It's almost like people fall for obvious bait
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>>139095997
I recognize this pasta. I've seen it here with RTK and a few other things, but it's posted rarely enough that only people who read pretty much every thread (or happened to read the ones it was posted in) and have been here for at least a few months are going to recognize it.
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>>139095997
Because he's a language professor doesn't mean he's necessarily "correct".

It's also retarded of him to be negative about anki considering it's a superior tool in everyday way to WK.

Seriously this is stupid.
>He told me that WaniKani is highly useful for a solid start, and the method used in it has been a great success worldwide.
Doesn't prove anything, people (to not say normies) in everyday life do the stupidest dumb shits and have done so for decades. It's not exactly a stat that should automatically be regarded as a positive one - or at the very least not the main one - when handing an argument about language learning.
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>>139096264
Fuck I pressed the enter the second I saw your post. >>139096308
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Hello everyone, I am looking for some games, preferably in the nes or snes that are written only in japanese (preferably hiragana and katakana only) for practice purposes.
Ideally a game where the text helps for progress, to help me having no choice but to understand what the game says.
Any suggestions ?
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>>139096462
>(preferably hiragana and katakana only)
Why would you do this to yourself? There is no point playing games like those, it's just a torture and won't teach you proper (read : adult) Japanese.

Anyway if you insist then Pokémon games are probably what you want.
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>>139096462
shadowgate on the famicom
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>>139096462
>preferably hiragana and katakana only
wew lad
try final fantasy 1-6
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>>139096652
I don't know all of the usual kanjis yet, it would seem like to be too much of an hassle. But I'm open to suggestions.
>>139096588
Thanks, I'll look it up
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>>139096822
You won't know them either if you avoid them like the plague.
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>>139096822
You'll still need to know vocab to play kana-only games, and the best way to learn kanji is by learning vocab. Do the math.
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>>139095997
>WaniKani was far too slow. He scoffed at this
>he IS a language professor

Considering most colleges take 2 years to finish Genki I+II, I don't trust their opinion on pace.
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>>139096924
>>139096984
The thing is I don't avoid them like the plague. I am currently studying them in parallel with Anki. But I don't want to have to look up every Kanji if I play a game. But for now I still want to be immersed in a japanese-only environment and have no choices but to try to understand what is said.
It's something I want to do to "have fun while studying at the same time" and it's not my main mean of studying. And if I can manage with a hiragana / katakana only game, nothing will stop me to go seek for more advanced game.
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>>139096984
>>139096924
can you just let this kid play video games and relax
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>>139096340
Now you look a fool!
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>>139097138
>play video games and relax
There's a board for that.
It's not /v/
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>>139095997
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/136583893/#136598650
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/132374182/#132388760
I think I recall it being posted another time with another method/resource, but I guess that's in the gap that was never recovered.
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>>139097315
Enlighten me.
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>>139097381
>>>/vr/
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You can tell the authors get paid per character.
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>>139097403
theres even a cool thread there >>>/vr/3088172 that can maybe help this dude >>139096462 though he probably should play shadowgate anyway

theres even actual good advice posts in it >>>/vr/3089632

for shame djt boys
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>>139097755
i appreciate that you counted the こくs for the filename
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What tools do you guys personally use?

KanjiTomo and TA with ITH for me
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>>139097927
>that "language instructor"
god damn i feel bad for the anons unaware of just how wrong he is
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>>139098310
Anki and Ankidroid
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>>139098310
ITH into browser window and rikai. Sometimes draw kanjis into google translate
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>>139098310
This http://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk and Anki. I don't really read manga because finding weekly raws is too annoying and I prefer mining words with the full sentence they were from. Will probably try manga for leisure when I don't have to look up words often.
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>>139098310
*俺のdilznickに指して*
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Anyone else here studied at the university and is now finally making progress thanks to this stupid general?
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>>139099017
>calling djt stupid

You don't deserve the blessed guide created by Zeus himself, go back to your shitty useful phrases you normie scum
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>>139099332
Yeah, how dare he call this pinnacle of sophisticated- >>139088647

Which university did you study at?
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>>139099468
>a single post == a general

anon ur a baka m8
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>>139098519
For manga, haruka-yumenoato and manga-zone among others. Have fun.
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>>139099545
>among others
I mean, if it's somewhere you get weekly manga / manga often that isn't available on the other two, feel free to share.

Thanks though.
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>>139099583
What magazine do you want to check out specifically?
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>>139099879
If it's too much of a pain / too many sites you don't have to, I was more just asking in general.
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>50 new words a day
>still can't understand children's shows without looking up words
やはり無理だ
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>>139100022
Okay in general, what magazine are you looking forward to check every week?
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>>139100037
How many words into core2k/6k are you? How many are mature?
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>>139100116
Right now not anything because I'm not reading manga and it's been a while since I've tried. That's why I was just asking in general what sites you check for various things / if you had a list to post.
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>>139100172
2625 mature, 3606 total for core2k/6k
I know I shouldn't expect to understand things properly before finishing 6k though, just whining.
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should I wait to learn vocab until after I learn radicals or is it ok to learn vocab alongside radicals?
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sorry to sound like a fucking moron, but I've been doing that all in one Japanese pack with Japanese The Manga Way, Tae Kim and the anki decks (kana, gramma, vocab, kanji) along with Kanjidamage's Kanji deck because I like their mnemonics

my question is: is there something out there that will teach me kanji combinations such as 出口 = entrance, 牛乳 = cow's milk, etc as I learn the kanji? this was one of the functions I liked about wanikani
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>>139083970
Speak for yourself. I took two weeks off and basically my entire vocabulary went down the drain. 2 years and nearly 20000 words wasted. Couldnt get a single thing right in anki. Had to go back to realkana and everything.
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>>139100305
Isn't that what vocab does? Not used WankiKani so not quite sure what you mean.

>>139100282
Do both, no reason not to.
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>>139100370
thanks senpai
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>>139100361
>just 2 weeks off
>had to go back to realkana

f-fuck anon you're scaring me. I couldn't imagine regressing that much in two weeks.
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>>139100361
Well, at least you've learned your lesson now.
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>>139100361
How is that even possible?
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>>139100361
I took a 5 month break(I just gave up learning Japanese, actually.) and still knew the kana after, are you okay anon?
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>>139100428
Not him, I don't lose it that fast thanks to constant Japanese interaction via anime, but I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks and I think I forgot almost every word in my reps once I was finally able to do them again. It took me a month or two to get back to where I was before, and I could only do one or two new words a day until then.
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>>139100214
At the bottom of haruka-yumenoato you can find a list of other websites.
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>>139100370

> Isn't that what vocab does?

The guide tells me to read through both JtMW and Tae Kim before even trying to open vocab, which means I should have at least two weeks worth of kanji learned. I'm doing both the kanji deck included in the pack and the Kanji Damage kani deck (I think this one's easier to learn).

Should I start the vocab deck anyways?
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>>139093219
Than whats the point? Anything worth reading is translated. 99% of us started because we want to watch anime without glancing down every 2 seconds, or want to watch episodes without waiting for subs or worrying if they are over-localizing.
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>>139100488
Hospital stay was 9 days by the way, a bit less long than him. I think a month and over and you lose most of what you learned if you have no interaction.
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>>139100361
Man I used to be a Trump supporter until I saw that post, now I'm a Cruz missile.
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>>139100518
He is talking out of his ass. Japanese phonology is one of the most easiest there is. If you get enough exposure (not 24/7) you will be fine.
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>>139100518
>Anything worth reading is translated
This is my least favorite EOP justification meme.

>99% of us started because we want to watch anime without glancing down every 2 seconds, or want to watch episodes without waiting for subs or worrying if they are over-localizing.
No. Learning Japanese purely for anime is stupid and I imagine that group is vastly in the minority even on /a/.
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>>139100510
>The guide tells me to read through both JtMW and Tae Kim
Either you misunderstood something or the guide is retarded
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>>139100530
I think it probably depends on how far along you are and how solidified things have gotten in your long-term memory. I took about 3 weeks off at one point and apart from having a mountain of reps when I returned my retention rate didn't change that much.
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>>139100608
>No. Learning Japanese purely for anime is stupid and I imagine that group is vastly in the minority even on /a/.
lol
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>>139100580
I knew all the cancer overflowing /a/ was coming from /pol/
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>>139100518
>Anything worth reading is translated.

Should have stopped reading there tbqbhwy.

There is nearly no reason to learn japanese for anime. Boohoo you have to wait a few hours for translations to be released, what a fucking shame.

I can't imagine anyone learning Japanese just to watch anime. Maybe as a nice bonus but more than that you're a fucking moron.
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>>139100518
He's a troll. It's not that hard to understand anime.
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>>139100518
>99% of us started because we want to watch anime without glancing down every 2 seconds
That's pointless when you're watching your anime on 2x speed anyway.
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>>139100624

Actually I'm a fucking retard, yeah. Turns out I started the vocab deck at the same time as the kanji deck but it's been teaching me stupid shit like 九つ and 一つ so I didn't realize.

Holy shit what a dumb fuck I am.
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>>139100361
>>139100488
>>139100530
thats right. if you dont use it, you lose it. whats the point of doing flash cards if you arent actively using whats on them
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What's the word for "art style" or "aesthetic"? As in, "This game's art style is really cute." I'm guessing it's not 型 or 流 or anything like that. Is it something like 様式?
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>>139100650
Almost every single anime that airs every season gets subbed. Most people start learning the language because the things they want to read don't have translations, whether it be manga, LNs, or VNs.
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I wonder if theres a way to block browsers from loading until reps are finished.

Its shit like this that got me kicked out of college
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>>139100777
スタイル
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What do you guys use to read manga? I've been using honeyview but it has started to bother me a bit.
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>>139100822
Ah, the good ol' hiding-in-plain-Engrish technique. Fucking ninja words.
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>>139100835
Bother you how? I tried honeyview, it's light but I like bloated Comicrack more so I use that.
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I finally got 大毘盧遮那成仏神変加持経 right at today's reps.
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>>139100835
Windows Photo Viewer. It literally contains all the features you need.
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>>139097927
That guy thinks that "neckbeards", and not literal normies, are the primary consumers of rosetta stone? And why is this guy so violently opposed to the concept of reading books?
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>>139100835
Simple Comic
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>>139083794
Good advice.
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>>139100816
its you who got you kicked out of college. why even try to learn anything? just hand fat people their burgs at the drive through till the day you die アホンダラ
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>>139099545
Be careful clicking the file hosts, I stupidly opened all of them and got redirected to some malicious shit.
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>>139100518
>99% of us started because we want to watch anime without glancing down every 2 seconds, or want to watch episodes without waiting for subs or worrying if they are over-localizing.
>being new enough not to read subs subconsciously
>we
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Does ケモノ stem from 獣, "beast", or from 毛物, "fur thing"?
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what's wrong with wanting to learn Japanese to watch anime, read manga and play non-localized videogames?
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>>139083970
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appspot.pistatium.tomorrow&hl=ja
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>>139100835
mangameeya
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>>139101013
Sorry, we can't have that. Listening comprehension is impossible for a Gai-Jin.
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>>139100984
On a related note, don't download the JP subtitle batch from http://kitsunekko.net/, it has a nasty virus in it.
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>>139100984
Never happened to me.
For the sake of discussion, I tried it just now for Noragami. Everything was fine.
http://haruka-yumenoato.net/manga/144208
Did you click フォルダーを開く or the http://haruka-yumenoato.net/folder/******?
Kaspersky always block http://haruka-yumenoato.net/folder/****** so I use フォルダーを開く if that helps.

Thanks for the warning though. Just saying it never happened to me.
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>>139101013
>read manga
Nothing
>play non-localized videogames
Nothing
>watch anime
Everything

Anime is translated within hours of release. It's so easily available there are often multiple translation groups working on an anime so you even have a choice there.

I'm not saying you wouldn't want to learn Japanese to make watching anime more enjoyable, but having it as your main reason is fucking stupid. You're putting hundreds upon hundreds of hours into learning a language so that you can watch anime 2-3 hours earlier and without the pain of reading. It's like hiking or days to extract a bottle of water from a mountain rather than buying it at Tesco. If you're passing by the mountain on your way to something better then why not enjoy the water, but don't make it your target.
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Trying to go back to doing reps
But my Anki account got deleted
My desktop anki still retains my deck info
Will it keep the deck info if I make a new account and sync on it?
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>>139101346
Wanikani wouldn't have deleted your account, you know.
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I've been using the anki desktop program but lately I haven't been able to be at home all that much.

I want to use the online Anki feature and access through my phone. How do I export my shit so it mirrors online? Can I login through the desktop application?
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>>139101006
Rikai tells me it's the former, but that etymology makes sense. Maybe it's an older word?
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>>139101446
Is wanikani the way to go these days?
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>>139101092
I just downloaded some subs from there the other day, luckily it wasn't the batch. Thanks for this info.
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>>139101583
If you believe it's the right option for you.
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>>139101583
I think the new guide lists the pros and cons of wanikani and while it's probably the best option for certain people the general consensus on here is that it's not the way to go.
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>>139101583

I'd love to keep using wanikani but I refuse to pay a subscription fee for a service which anki provides for free.
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>>139101071
Still mad you can't even understand one piece after 4 years of anki?
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>>139101000
A large % of people can barely read at all without concentrating hard. They only talk, and watch TV/movies. I know several people who refuse to watch anything subbed (for them, it's dubs, or nothing) because they can't keep up.

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2014/09/americans-stupid-subtitles.html
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>>139101522
Just look up syncing in the manual. It's very easy.
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>>139101718
This is called "functional illiteracy" and it literally only means that the person hasn't already read enough.
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>>139101718
You get used to subs, everybody does.
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>>139101711
I don't do that, I use paper flashcards with my own SRS system. It's like a checkered piece of paper with symbols on it. I invented it when I was in Hong Kong on a diplomatic mission with the Canadian government.
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>>139101718
the average IQ of a 4chan user is a standard deviation to the right, everyone should be able to read subs
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>>139101733

This man is it seriously going to try to upload the 1gb of garbage I have on my anki?

I don't think it will allow that.
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>>139101911
Ha, you can't stop it once it has started without corrupting your files.
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>>139101247
>It's like hiking or days to extract a bottle of water from a mountain rather than buying it at Tesco. If you're passing by the mountain on your way to something better then why not enjoy the water, but don't make it your target.

It's interesting that actually liking mountains and enjoying the hike isn't mentioned by anyone.
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>>139101911
It will, there are no hard limits.
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>>139102114
Because it's off topic. If you're learning Japanese for the sake of learning and not solely for the sake of raw anime then no one's addressing you.
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>>139101911
I had 2gb of shit in my anki online storage or wherever the fuck it is before

You can sync with dropbox or something instead but I imagine it's slightly more complex.

Just backup the pics/sounds and sync, then replace the pics/sounds in your pc and phone

>>139102114
I enjoy the feeling of acomplishment after finishing my reps, but I'd happily trade that joy for fluency.
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>>139101774
>This is called "functional illiteracy" and it literally only means that the person hasn't already read enough.
Correct. And yet there are people out there who think it's important for language-learners to read.

>>139101851
It's really not about IQ.
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>>139101092
Why don't you fuckers write it in the spreadsheet when there's a virus on something?
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>>139102360
The individual subs are fine since it's downloading single files, the virus is in the big batch because some fuck-knuckle uploaded a virus before the most recent batch was made.
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>>139102329
>Correct. And yet there are people out there who think it's important for language-learners to read.
Did you write that backwards?
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let's listen to some music, /a/djt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paxobd-fuck
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>>139078088
please respond
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>>139103195
"Radical" actually doesn't mean component, but "dictionary radical". A kanji only has one "radical". It's asking you to 次の漢字の部首を選べ based on ア~エの中から.
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>>139102874
Yes.
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>>139103311
It's ok anon, that just means you know english.
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>>139103195
Every kanji has a single 部首, which is it's main radical, and the one you would use to look it up in a kanji dictionary (that's why the 首 kanji is in the word - it's the MAIN radical of the kanji)

部首 as a term when not talking about a specific kanji can also refer to those collection of radicals which can be the 部首 of some kanji, so basically a radical in the more general sense.
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>>139101718
I can watch anime subbed, but I find that I can better appreciate the art and animation when I don't have to split my visual attention between reading and watching. That's why I default to dub more often than most. I'm not going to learn Japanese solely for this purpose, but it really would be nice if I could always just listen.
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>>139099332
The guide was written by a redditor, anon.
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>>139103264
>>139103459
>already learned to read 2400 kanji (write 1800)
>never heard about this before in my life
wonderful, glad to know that I'll never learn japanese
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>>139104069
Recognition is the first step.
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>>139103871
The old one maybe. If the new one is too, then who gives a fuck? It's pretty clear he primarily browses DJT in the context of learning Japanese, is an /a/non, is generally pretty friendly, and doesn't have the same mindset that /r/learnjapanese does.
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>>139104069
You don't know it because you don't need to know it
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>>139104340
Not that guy but having a little anxiety attack about this fact, i'm in a similar position. It's only used to look a kanji in a dictionary? or it has other uses?
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>>139100305

Yes.

These are the books my university uses.
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>>139104467
It's only used to look at kanji in physical dictionaries. There's also some stuff about etymology and sounds, but they don't reliably apply to japanese. The concept of component is used for everything else.
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>>139104467
>It's only used to look a kanji in a dictionary?
Yes
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痛くない自殺方法教えてください
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>>139104556
切腹しかないよね~
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>>139104835
did she died?
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>>139105118
Watch the show and find out
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>>139105118
Nah, she chickened out in the end.
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>>139105333
but that show in particular is extremely shit.
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>>139105434
出て行け
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Is there such a thing as an irregular readings deck?
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>>139105535
まどかのパクリくせに誰に出て行けって言ってんだ
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>>139104835
>learning japanese is the one thing that keeps me from killing myself
>every morning I sit and decide between my reps and my death
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>>139105748
Will you end yourself once you reach fluency?
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>>139105748
A long time ago I would probably have killed myself then.
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>>139105784
The hope is that I'll be drowning in so much moege puss that life will be worth living
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>>139105748
Whats that black thing above the eye patch?
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>>139105621
貴様のようなクズが分かるはずない。
ゆゆゆは最高だ。
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>>139106064
A horn? I don't fucking know
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>>139106064
It's a horn.
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>Decide to play through Pokemon in Japanese to see how I can hold up
>ゲームで つかう もじは ひらがな・かたかなに しますか?
>それでも 漢字に しますか?

Which should I do /djt/? I think my grip on grammar is fairly solid, and I'd like to roll in Kanji to expand my vocabulary a bit, but I don't want to spend half the fucking play time looking up words on jisho.org. I mean, I'll already be spending the other half looking up the names of 'mons and their attacks on bulbapedia.

I'm guessing people in /djt/ have made moves like this before. It's the first step I've taken in a while to do some serious learning instead of just reps every night. Even though it's not that serious, it's better than nothing anyway
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>>139106386
I tried to do that the other day.

I quit, because having to look up multiple words per sentence on Jisho was making it take 10-20x longer than it would have to play the game, and because I could always just skip/avoid dialog because it's so easy to advance the game without reading anything.

I'm gonna try a VN with a text hooker instead.
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>>139106386
>serious learning
You know the answer.
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>>139106495
Katakana?
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>>139106495
Well, I've got med school on the horizon. Even my limited studying of Japanese is tough to balance with everything else.

I'm basically looking at devoting my precious free time to even more Japanese learning. At least it will be fun, r-right?

Still, I don't know if the kanji option is "worth it" - if I'll gain enough from a scholarly standpoint, so, that's why I'm asking for advice here!
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tfw no imouto
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>>139106576
>reasons
出来ない (できない)
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>>139106585
その感じいつイモウトない
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>>139106576
Playing without kanji is worthless for learning to read anything above tiny childrens books
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>>139106720
Yeah that's what I figured. I already knew the answer when I made that post. I just needed a push ;_;

>>139106623
I'll show you!
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One of these days my Japanese will be good enough to understand the Style moves in Medaka, just you wait Nisio.
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>>139106585
>tfw had cute imouto
>never appretiate how lucky I am because I was a tiny child too
>she is now a chav

The real world is too harsh for imoutos anon, they will only know suffering and pain.

>>139106753
I know what you mean, I often post questions hoping for one answer with reasons to justify it but knowing it will always go the opposite (and correct) way
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You're now aware that learning Japanese won't fix the major problems that torment your real life.
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Am I blind or is there not a list of beginner VNs anywhere in the guide
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>>139106871
I don't care about my real life.
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Why do people like to shit on Genki?
I find it the easiest and most logical way of learning Japanese
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>kanxi that are a pain in the ass to write fast
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>>139106902
俺たちに翼はない is the best SoL VN out there
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>>139106902
You are correct, the guide sucks.
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>>139106833
Follow-up question: this game has no furigana and so I'd have to enter kanji I don't know by drawing them, and the drawing entry on Jisho.org really really sucks. Are there better alternatives?
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>>139106871

It will help me move to my magical world of escapism, though.
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>>139107072

Google translate. No joke. The handwriting recognition on that is miles better than jisho.
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>>139107036
>monobeno
>my target VN
>in easy tier

Maybe I'll be reading it sooner than I thought
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>>139107136
really? neat
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>>139105621
Just do Hanahira or Flyable Heart. Compelling content is important, but the first thing you're going to read you're most likely going to ruin and misunderstand enough that if it has anything resembling a plot you're not going to be able to follow it anyways. Plus Flyable Heart's is actually good when you get to the routes, so the common route is prefect as a throwaway to get used to reading. The chart the other anon has a lot of troll entries, by the way.
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>>139106973
this isnt me shitting on genki but let me know when you learn japanese
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>>139107072
Wouldn't KanjiTomo do exactly that?
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>>139107139
Must feel good.
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>>139107139
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>>139107239
Does this actually work?
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>>139107239
I don't know. Would it?

I don't know what that is, if my use of Jisho's handwriting recognition was any indication. You tell me, buddy.
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>start watching an anime for the first time in a while
>its shit so i have low motivation to continue watching
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Is this a typo?
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>>139107240
It still feels really far away. Still slogging through Tae Kim and technically only 250~ words into Core2k/6k. I had hit 2k just before I stopped for a week and instead of catching up with the reps I decided to just leave it because I'm a twat.

Even worse is that when getting back into it I reset the deck instead of just going through the reps from a year ago. The only good thing is that I remember more than I thought I did, so it's not as painful the second time around.

I guess I'll try jumping into reading once I hit 1k again, by then I'll have finished Tae Kim and need to drill some of that in anyway.
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>>139107236
I'm still a beginner, only halfway through genki I and i feel like I couldn't possibly ask for more from a book.
It's the easiest, most fun way, and I've looked through other books
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>>139107399
やはり出来ないことであるんだよ
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>>139100361
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>>139107338
Google Chrome is godlike for handwriting.
Only thing to come close to it is the Chinese handwriting for old iPhones.
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>>139107451
maybe maybe not
who cares since it's obviously がむしゃら
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>>139107458
Are you the guy that said he wants to read it without dictionary assistance and all?
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>>139107533
Thanks, I couldn't find what it was.
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>>139107539
That sounds like something I'd say, so probably

I'm eager to give it a go to see how the grammar sticks though, so I'll probably just read it with a text hooker like a normal person.
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>>139107631
Report back.
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>>139107303
>>139107338
I guess?
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>>139107720
Yes, well, I'm playing this on my 3DS. You show me that working with 3DS and we'll talk. I'll check out google in the meantime
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Can anyone here read this?
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>>139107720
蠹廳

If it does this I'm installing.
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>>139107791
ye
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>>139107791
What, you can't?

>>139107781
As a follow-up, yeah, I'm pretty impressed with Google right now. I mean, I'm trying to draw these kanji with a mouse so I'm horribly mangling them, and it's still working pretty well
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>>139084464
"If I say I can't do it, you'll end up disliking me"

Anybody autistic enough to help me out with translating this song? I gave it a try but it's a hot mess, especially the second verse. Japanese lyrics and my attempt are in the pastebin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkHRW8bbaTM
http://pastebin.com/qYPHgim4
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What's all this about phonetic components?
I'm just now realizing shit like 花 and 化 having the same 音読み and shit.
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>>139107913
http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Kukui:Starry_Waltz

My bad, furi won't show up in the pastebin and they're damn important here.
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>>139107913
It can be both but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the opposite, "If you say you can't do it I'll be upset, you know."
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>audio dramas

I'm glad for these. I think that paying attention to an anime episode without English subtitles would be tiring as fuck with my current listening skills.

With audio dramas, I can play minesweeper or something equally lacking in required attention while listening, which gives me something to fiddle with while I listen.

Of course, I guess you could put anime episodes on in the background, but then you'd be missing a large portion of the content. Audio dramas are meant to express the full situation without visual aid.
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>>139100361
>Had to go back to realkana and everything.
H-how?
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>>139107484
>>139107484
Read more, anki less, they said.
Mine words, don't use core, they said.
But the time when I improved the most was when I was bruteforcing core6k, as much as it sucked.

Doesn't matter how well you can pick the sounds out of a conversation if you don't know the words they say.
Doesn't matter how quickly you can read if half the paragraph is just unknown kanji and vocab.
Doesn't matter how comfortable you are with grammar if you can't figure out the context of a single sentence because it contains a key word that you don't know.
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>>139104556
カート・コバーンの方法よ
その方法は本当に痛くない
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>>139108679
It sounds like it's not so much that you didn't know the language as you didn't know the kind of words they test on. Which are typically "newspaper" words like you find in Core.
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>>139108679
what is that picture from :3c
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>>139108844
Results from j-cat.com, which has a free test you can take
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>>139109001
Neat. What does a score of 100 represent? Or is it all just relative to show you where you should improve?
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How do I delete stats of 1 particular deck? I mean full deletion of even the lifetime stats.
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>>139109056
According to j-cat 100 in everything would be like post-native, yamato tamashii incarnate level of Japanese. 350+ is native level iirc
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>mfw only know about 2500 words
>mfw hate anki
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>>139109329
only sickos dont
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>>139109001
>j-cat.com
This is some late 90s cat website. Do you have another link?
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>>139108420
>Audio dramas are meant to express the full situation without visual aid.

thank you for that statement, I'd have thought I had gone blind exclusively to audio dramas otherwise

>>139109083
Don't. Seriously you will regret it. There is a plugin for Anki that does this. https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1432861881 Seriously though don't.
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>>139109359
woops
http://www.j-cat.org/en/

It says it takes up to 3 days to process your registration, but it's taken me like less than an hour each of the two times I've done it.
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>>139109407

>thank you for that statement, I'd have thought I had gone blind exclusively to audio dramas otherwise

It was a comparative statement for the purpose of commentary on why I would prefer to not to just listen to anime episodes like I do with audio dramas, you dumb autist.
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>>139109516
i-i was just joking anon. It just looks funny to me. Sorry I'll get some rest now, night night :)
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>>139083747
Daily reminder you fags should be speaking and writing it. Especially speaking. Writing is easy for every language, but speech, is the hardest.
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>>139109685
Also, SRS, labels, apps, etc., are all bullshit. They can be helpful supplements or revision tools but they're not necessary and on their own they won't do much good for learning. Stick with the traditional method.
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>>139109685
You can't make me fall for the production meme, anon
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>>139109407
Why will I regret it? I'm starting core again after doings 20 words to try it about a week ago.
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>>139109725
no way dude the way to go is flash cards for 3 years and then go to japan
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Do I really have to learn the kunyomi and onyomi? Or can I just learn how the kanji looks and then remember what it means in english?
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>>139109725
yup, nothing more harmful than knowing the vocabulary of the language you're trying to learn.
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>>139108679
Sounds like you didn't read enough
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>>139109779
Sort of.

The best way to learn them is in context, not simple rote memorization. Find something that motivates you to learn Japanese that has kanji in it, look them all up, make an anki deck or flash cards (my preference), and then gloss the text. You'll barely get anything at first. Then re-work the cards. Gloss again, just go over the text reading what you can. You'll get more. It'll be neat. You're reading Japanese! Work the cards again. Gloss. 25%. Cards. Gloss. 50%. Cards. Gloss. 75%. Cards. Gloss. 90%. Cards. Gloss. 100%. Woah, did I just finish reading something in Japanese?

Start small, like a news article on something you already know (an anime, computers, culture, whatever). Every little one of these projects you complete, the next one gets easier. You already know this one from the last project! You know one of the kanji in this word already, does it have a new reading? Etc. :)
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>>139109779
There are a bunch of different methods for learning Kanji, and everyone has their own method.

The Heisig method tells you to just learn the character and English translation. This gets you through learning them lightning fast, but by the end, you have spent almost a year, and can't read anything at all. Then you go back and learn readings.

The old-school method is to memorize the character, translation, and the on' and kun' readings. This is good for actually learning to read, but takes ages.

I prefer the WaniKani method, where you learn the character, translation, and the most common reading. They teach the most useful reading, and then teach the others through vocabulary after you learn the character.

It's all up to you, and what you will find most motivating to keep going. I like the WaniKani method, because it is more balanced than the others, and gives you a good speed to practical application ratio.
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>>139109824
What does "gloss" mean here?
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>>139109895
Glossary (somehow)
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日本に住もうと思ってるんだけど,日本人は日本に住みたい外国人が好きじゃないそうです.真ですか?
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>>139109959
人によって異なると思う。ただ、ほとんどの日本人は、ルールを守って礼儀正しい外国人なら、彼らが日本に来るのを歓迎すると思うよ。
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>>139109936
>and then gloss the text.
Can someone translate this phrase into English for me?
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>>139110015
Notes.
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「経験が不足しているうえにいつも寝不足なので、あなたは首です」って狡いでしょう?
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>>139110004
応答してくれてありがとう。私は君の文化が尊敬だけあります.
私は白人だのに、市に住んでいる人々は私にすてきだと思いますか?
田舎に住んでいる人々は私に見下したら

>>139110015
Look up text glossing. It is an extremely common term used in particular on Japanese language learning circles.
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>>139110079
正直、それに関しては分からないけど
一部の人々は英語が得意じゃないので、
その人たちは外国人を避ける傾向があると思う。
少なくとも自分はそう思う。
その他に、農村部に住む人は好奇心から君をじろじろ見ると思う
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>>139110079
It must be incredibly complicated, if it's this hard to explain.
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おはよう! 今日、僕は日本語を勉強しなかった。今は本当に悲しよ ;ー;
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>>139110152
It literally just means adding notes about what things mean.
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I need some good Japanese material to listen to for background noise/listening improvement. Any good podcasts/radio stations/what-have-you?
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>>139110235
When I had an icrap phone I downloaded JPod101 podcasts as a sort of white noise. Now on android I use "Japanese Listening Practice" off the google play store.
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>>139110283
Never thought of that. Japanese Listening Practice just streams those NHK things I was always too lazy to download all of. Neat.
Are there any decent Soundcloud channels or for this sort of thing out there?
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>>139110079
>It is an extremely common term used in particular on Japanese language learning circles.
Why do I get the impression you're from reddit?
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>>139109862
Does Wanikani by itself work? Or do I have to use other resources(besides books obviously) to learn? I tried using Wanikani with Anki, but it was too much.
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>>139110205
Oh.

I was confused because that guy said
>You'll barely get anything at first. Then re-work the cards. Gloss again, just go over the text reading what you can.
which sounded quite the opposite from what you're saying.
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>>139110362
Both of these were good when I used them:
http://tunein.com/radio/T-Wave-Rakiraki-Beach-Radio-s98414/
http://www.simulradio.jp/

The top link has a lot of different stations but you'll have to make sure to keep Japanese hours in mind as it is a live streaming service.
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>>139110015
ESLs/illiterate Australians please 出て行け
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知るがよい、お前の好みがどれだけ糞に満ちているを
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>>139083747
How much of this torrent is in the Cornucopia of Resources and is it worth downloading?
Torrent: https://kat.cr/japanese-language-learning-pack-t5829730.html
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>>139110391
Because /djt/ and reddit intersect when it comes to userbase?
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>>139110449
Please, show me the dictionary definition that covers this usage and meaning of "gloss."
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>>139110627
You've seriously never heard therm "gloss over" before? ie: "My eyes glossed over the data".
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>>139110391
The Guide in the op was written by a redditor and the thread has been linked to on different reddit boards for years. Add 2+2, more or less.

>>139110627
Dictionaries do not really cover rapidly changing connotative uses of words very well.
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>>139110079
>>139110119
人はそれぞれ違う
俺は外国人を気にしない
でも白人なら死ねばいいと思うって
出来ない人と言えるんだね 笑
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What are some popular, simple, Japanese dishes that I can make at home? I can pretty much cook most things as long as there are basic enough instructions out there.
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>>139110817
Curry and rice
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>>139110714
>The Guide in the op was written by a redditor
stop spreading this meme, they copied our guide, not the other way round
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>>139110704
FYI, you're the first one to say "gloss over."

>>139110714
So anyone who doesn't knows the words your little "scene" uses is an ESL or illiterate. Right.
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>>139110817
生姜焼き
Ingredients are usually cheap as shit.

>>139110852
Newfag, the guide was originally written by a redditor. Email and ask him yourself, it should still be linked in the current edit of the Guide. This is common knowledge.
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>>139110817
ramen noodle
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>>139110362
24/7 Live Japanese TV:

wilsonjj.me/jptv/#

Check the schedule for what shows are on at what time, etc. Right now I'm watching a old Jap tranny visiting department stores. Excellent way to understand their culture, imho.
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>>139110858
Native seeing a new usage of a word: work out meaning from context and other similar usages like "gloss over", move on.
ESLs/Australians seeing a new usage of a word: ask for the meaning and demand dictionary definitions.
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>>139110817
Rice crackers/煎餅. So simple all you have to do is open a bag, and they are more-ish.
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>>139110079
>だのに
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>>139110858
"gloss", "gloss over", same shit. Not knowing that is like not knowing "shimmy" or "jacked".
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https://www.google.com/search?q=gloss+over&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
So hard!
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>>139111040
美味しいよね、PCの前で何かするときは結構お菓子として食べてる。

>>139111072
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q131212303
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>"ha"


>"wa"

WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE?
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>>139111180
yahooから日本語を知った
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>>139083747
I'd like to move in Japan and live there, with an interesting in studying in a department of culture studies and oriental languages. Are things like MEXT suitable for this pursuit?
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>>139110969

THESE SQUIRRELS MAN
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>>139111302
>を
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Hello again familia. I wanted to ask you about the core 2k/6k anki deck. How do you guys go about doing it? Do you consider it good once you know what the word is, or do you make sure that you have meaning and pronunciation down before calling it good? Also how long does it take you daily? I'm not sure if I'm just really shit or not, its taking me about 2 hours a day to get through my cards and its very frustrating.
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Aside from Erin's Challenge, are there any other series out there that teaches Japanese IN Japanese?
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>>139111342
>I'd like to move in Japan
>study languages
Please reconsider.
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>>139111356
I know. They probably make kick ass pets.
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>>139111180
Did you understand that answer correctly? You can use だのに at the start of a sentence, but not actually connected to anything, like in your sentence.
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>>139111452
It might be above your skill level if you're just starting, but I used this DS rom called 200万人の漢検 Its a Japanese-made kanji trainer for all ages. You start at 10級 which is kindergarten level kanji and work your way up to 1級 which is high school level kanji.

The most valuable mode in the game is kanji identification, where you have to write the kanji from memory using the stylus. This forces you to learn the stroke order and learn how to write kanji straight from memory, which helps imprint it into your mind.

>>139111472
>your
I think you might be confusing anons here. Look at the conversation tree.
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>>139111452
Nihongomori on youtube? They just explain grammar, though. There's no story going on like in Erin's Challange.
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>>139111342
Hope you like being poor. Don't do English teaching either, unless you like being poor AND being someone's bitch.
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>>139111452
>>139111551
I was about to recommend the same. For those unaware: 日本語の森. They have lessons for N5 to N1. N3 and up playlists are in Japanese, but there is also a basic playlist with english subtitles. Steve's lessons aren't in Japanese but I still recommend watching them over Kawama's basic series for N4/5 material.

https://www.youtube.com/user/freejapaneselessons3/playlists
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>>139111606
>Hope you like being poor.
You get used it if you're never really had money.
>unless you like being poor AND being someone's bitch
No real difference to now at least would be in country of preference because here life is shit.
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>>139111472
book em だのに
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>>139111745
4chan is an 18+ website
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>>139083747
こんいちは!
I recently started learning Japanese and while I'm terrible at it now, I look forward to being to chat in Japanese with you guys properly one day!
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I've been watching subbed anime for 15 years and I never learned any Japanese from it because I don't pay enough attention to the audio. Since I started getting more serious about Japanese about 1 year ago, my mind has started to pay more attention to the audio. The problem is that now I have to keep rewinding because I'm not paying enough attention to the subtitles. My brain is bad at multitasking.
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>>139111673
Why not study something that's actually beneficial no matter what country you're in? Like IT? Japan's always hiring IT people from around the globe.
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>>139111796
Don't ever talk to me again.
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>>139111796
Is this bait?
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>>139111860
I don't have interest in IT? Would you go into career you have no interest? Years of study effort for something that feels without reward?
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>>139111796
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>>139111924
maybe i got him to start spamming again. google those suspicious posts
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>>139111967
You're right, do what you want. Good luck.
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こんにちは、名無しさん!
日本語学習が上手くいって、他の人と日本語で意思疎通できるようになるといいね。
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>>139108560
なんで削除された?
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>>139083747
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/07/japanese-village-dolls-ageing-population-nagoro
Anyone else willing to help repopulate Japan?
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>>139112136
Hell no.
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Why do Japs have such fucked up teeth?
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anyone know of any japanese radio stations to listen too?
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>>139112136
It's still pretty amazing that the last chapter of Japanese history will be extinction by ageing.
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>>139112241
Anime was the death of Japan.
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>>139112234
Try these two posted above >>139110446
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>>139112207
神様 gave them small mouth but big teeth
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>>139112309
So you're saying that we should get someone to make anime great again?
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>あの人は何なの
This is nannano, right?
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>>139112313
Oh thank you friend
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>>139112393
na
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Guys, how do i avoid making the same grammatical mistakes when reading?

Some mistakes i just cannot stop making over and over again. Its getting annoying. I might be able to fix my mistake for a few weeks, but then another few weeks or even days go by without seeing the it and i forget.

Example: read までに as まで
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>>139112234
see>>139110969
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>>139111448
p-plz respond
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>>139112464
get hooked on phonics japanese 版
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>>139111448
>or do you make sure that you have meaning and pronunciation down
Of course. Pronunciation is typically so straightforward that you can't really know a word without knowing it.
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>>139112507

just do it
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>>139083747
Does anyone know of any decent Japanese forums for philosophy and general debating? Aside from watching anime and reading manga, things like debating religion and theism to pass time is a hobby. Do Japanese outside of 2ch argue over religion much online?
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>>139112732
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>>139112309
Women working is what kills birth rates.
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>>139112783
While I appreciate your knowledge of memes I was wondering if anyone had knowledge pertaining to my question.
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>>139083747
幾つの貴方達はファーリーを居る?
僕は日本語習う欲しい. でも, 俺が呪いを有る. 俺はファーリーズだけを習われる. してそこファーりいずを居らない. 助けを下さい. 又笑う. それは良い, も.

ありがとう.
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>>139111472
More like you shouldn't use it at all. Just because something is in a dictionary doesn't mean it is natural in conversation.
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>>139112827
im not gonna help you spread your gaijin filth. keep it here where it belongs
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For the guys who did, at what point in RTK did you drop it and decide to go a different route? What did you choose to do?
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>>139112732
That sounds like some nerd shit, to be honest. Why not just debate your waifu's cup size like a normal person?
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>>139112941
Japan is less religious than America, Australia, the UK, etc. so your retort doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. It was the gaijin who introduced western religion into Japan to begin with.

>>139112986
>Why not just debate your waifu's cup size like a normal person?
That sounds incredibly boring.
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>あの人はちょっと韓国人っぽいよね。
I love it how insecure Tae Kim is about his nationality.
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>>139113012
yeah but it wasnt you. youre going to stay here
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>>139112942
After the first 2200.

>>139113074
Wasn't he born in Russia?
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>>139113091
>youre going to stay here
Where?
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>>139112645
t-thank you
>>139112609
Thank you that helps. I guess I'll just have to grit my teeth and put in the time everyday.
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>>139113012
This just gets better and better
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How would you define "アレ" in "例のアレ" ?

I just think of it as saying "that" in a suggestive tone, or literally "[i]that[/i]," but I that may be false thinking on my part.
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>>139083747
http://youtu.be/0aYIazhat2s?t=1m21s
What is being said from at the timestamp of this clip?
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>>139113099
>Wasn't he born in Russia?
He's some Russian-Korean-American mess who's living in Japan where they don't like Koreans.
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>>139113074

He seems pretty comfortable with it, actually. Insecure people don't have much of a sense of humor. See: SJWs

He also probably wouldn't have any memories with Japanese friends to recount, since he would have defeated himself under assumptions that they were racist and were going to hate him due to his nationality.
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>>139113163
Are you religious or something?

>>139113224
>He's some Russian-Korean-American mess who's living in Japan where they don't like Koreans.
That's certainly an interesting choice. Sounds a bit like a Columbian raised in Mexico who moved and found success in America. Good on him.
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>>139113191
You're correct.
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昨日、大福を食べてみた。ゼリーのような味がするでも、肌触りがおかしい。都市ではアジアマーケットがあります。次は団子を食べてみたい。
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>>139113434
日本の食べ物で好きなものは何かある?
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>>139113262
>Insecure people don't have much of a sense of humor.
Not necessarily. They sometimes choose the clown route instead and constantly make fun of themselves.
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なんかもう勉強したくねぇ  
どんなに頑張っても上達しない希ガス
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>>139083747
I always hear about foreigners going to Japan to become English teachers.
I'm curious, is there a need for teachers for other languages as well, let's say German or French?
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>>139113191
Where do you think the "that" meme came from?
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>>139113648
日本語の勉強?
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"Racism" is rarely as simple and without reason as the regressives (who would do everything in their power to end any unbiased conversation about underlying causes) would like you to believe.

The Japanese don't hate Koreans. They hate illegal immigrants who hurt the job market and bolster crime, most of which are Korean in Japan. They also might have a problem with the Korean government, who poses a possible threat to their well being. Neither of these equate to automatically hating anybody who is of Korean ancestry and/or was raised in South Korea.

Of course, there are simple minded Japanese people who do simply just hate Koreans, but the problem didn't start with them, nor does the solution lie with them. Those types of people go with the flow.
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>>139113434
最近、俺は餅を食べてみた。あんまり好きじゃなかったけど、あのブランドはとても安いからもし別の餅を食べたら、好きかもしれない。
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>>139113752
そうっす
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>>139113823
文章を読む限り
君の日本語はすごく上手いよ。
日本語を学ぶとき
最も難しく感じる部分は何?
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>>139113434
大福とお団子とかは自分で簡単に作れるよ
餅粉は$2くらいかかるし小豆も結構安いしね

残りのあんこはぜんざいを作ればいい
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>>139113919
やっぱ語彙だね 
理解語彙と表現語彙、どちらにも自信が持てないんだ 

「親方日の丸」
「恋女房」
「姉さん女房」
「天職」
「デパ地下」
「既婚」
「衣食住」
「住宅展示場」
「多目的ホール」
「都市計画」
「新築」
「建て替え」
「昨今」
「シロアリ」
「つたない」
「転勤族」
「持ち家」
「単身赴任」
など今日だけでも何十個の単語や表現が初耳だったわけだ (´・ω・`);
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Posting extremely short and uninteresting sentences in japanese, especially when they contain errors that will lead people astray, isn't really contributing to the thread. Please take it back to your chatroom.
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>>139114583
You're just mad that you can't even read them
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>>139114583
>especially when they contain errors
Such as?
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>>139114583
怒ったのかい?
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>>139112393
correct
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>>139114702
Anon, it doesn't take much japanese knowledge to read "俺は餅を食べてみた".

Blogposting is still blogposting even if you're doing it in japanese; and writing three-word sentences is not educational or interesting for anyone except extreme beginners.
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>>139114583
Isn't it just to be expected that the majority of Japanese in a Japanese learning thread would be basic and uninteresting and have errors?
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>>139114838
>for anyone except extreme beginners
So... the people this thread is for?
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>>139114583
You must be fun at parties.
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>>139114838
We've wasted more posts now talking about it than the posts you were complaining about in the first place.
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>>139114908
>Wanting to interact with normalfags
Why?
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>>139115006
計画通り
all according to keikaku
>TN: keikaku means plan
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>>139115006
No one forced you to respond to me.
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>>139115063

>計画通り

I started busting out laughing the first time I ran across that in my reading.
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>>139113712
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>139115154
Meme magic.
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>>139114908
>You must be fun at parties.
LITERALLY a reddit meme. Why are we being invaded like this?
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>>139114838
悔しいか こんなことを
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>>139115344
あちこちに
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>>139115374
はい。
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>>139115242
While it is easy to do, could you please just accept your ban?
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>>139115242
Not him, but I never understood how comments like this expect us to believe they acquire this knowledge without visiting that site themselves.

I guess you've never been there and you just downloaded a pdf of the latest reddit memes so could stay vigilant against people using them on 4chan, is that it?
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>>139114005
その言い回し、日本語っぽい
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>>139115242
Is it? I never go there so I wouldn't know.
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>>139115426
>>139115476
>>139115500
When will people learn to report and ignore? You're only feeding people with the response they desire.
>>
Difference between どんな and どちら? For example, which is correct between 「どちらの/ どんなカレーが一番辛いですか?」
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>>139115500
>>139115476
Because you're new, otherwise you would surely have seen one of those auto generated meme images with Willy wonka by now.
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>>139115685
You mean this?
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>>139115657
>どんな
what sort of/type
>どちら
which (out of a selection)

って感じがする
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>>139115624
ill personally talk to whoever about whatever whenever i want granted all 3 of those posts you quoted are ass as fuck and i agree with you for those
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>>139115476
You must be fun at parties.
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>>139115728
Perfect, thank you.
>>
>>139115685
Sorry, I guess not being aware of the reddit connection makes me a newfag.

Please enlighten me on the rich reddit history behind these things, I'm sure you know all about it Mr. oldfag.
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>>139115476
These sort of short exchanges in japanese with extremely short sentences and questionable grammar makes up the bulk of the conversation in reddit's chat groups.

It's no conspiracy; when the thread starts to get like this it's because their group linked to us and they start posting here the same way they do in their group. It's also why they seem to not be knowledgable about things that are frequently discussed and recommended on DJT.
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>>139115745
My bad. >>139115242 and
>>139115426
>>139115476
>>139115500
were all my posts.
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>>139115817
>I'm a redditor
>waaa why are we being invaded by redditors
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>>139114005
その単語表ありがとう 
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>>139115868
All me.
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>>139115817
>We're being raided by *communists*
>This kind of thing happens every time the *communists* talk about us.

Christ, you're paranoid.
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>>139115930
no me
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>>139113191
>例のアレ
>specialized gay video
niconicoよーご

>>139113434
大福に使われてる粉は
「上新粉」ってのを使うんだよ
すぐにつくれるんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
がんばって
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>>139115817
hey guys its the reddit expert
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>>139115817
>>
Can you guys at least try to have a single thread that isn't an off topic shitfest?
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>>139116109
The sad thing is we really do try.
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>>139116133
It would be a lot better for everyone on the board and in the thread is these were limited to a single day a week like the ゆゆ式 threads.
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>>139116133
usually i just throw one zinger at the guy and it sends him over the edge and he proceeds to nuke that thread and like the next 3 threads
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>>139116109
There are people who legitimately get paid to incite and wrap us up in pointless arguments to distract us from our studies.
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>>139116203
>the guy
Please stop trying to scapegoat group shitposting.
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>>139116109
All it takes is one post about reddit to derail this shit, it's frustrating.
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>>139116203
oh and nuke the guide from what i heard i guess lmao
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>>139116216
>to incite and wrap us up in pointless arguments to distract us from our studies.
No one is forcing you to spend hours every day in a thread on single thread on a board on 4chan.
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>>139116216
NHK please.
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>>139116193
That actually sounds like a really nice idea.

Would be something to look forward to all week. Like "DJT Fridays" or something.
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>>139116263
Do you report it? I reported two such posts and they were deleted within minutes.
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>>139116302
I don't.

I also keep 8/pol/ open.
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>>139116357
Mein nigger
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>>139115817
>These sort of short exchanges in japanese with extremely short sentences and questionable grammar makes up the bulk of the conversation in reddit's chat groups.
Yeah, sure. It definitely isn't due to the fact that beginners have trouble generating long sentences, no. It has to be Reddit.
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>>139116314
It would certainly give some time for the group of regulars to do something that they can talk about. The ゆゆ式 thread is still a circlejerk and frequently off topic but at least they manage to somehow remain fresh in their discussions despite the animation being long over and manga chapter releases slow.
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>>139115179
>I'm a retarded crossboarder from /v/
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>>139116109
It's SOP to shitpost after reaching bump limit
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>>139116636
>after reaching bump limit
Most of the thread is been shitposting.
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>>139116456
よーし! Let's do it!
I trust everyone to refrain from making a new thread until next Friday.

I'm going to learn all kinds of things that I can share with everyone. See you all in 1 week.
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>>139116671
Oh shut the fuck up and stop ban evading already.
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>>139116699
I have no idea what you are posting about.
Stop blaming others for the present state of threads.
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>>139115242
It's a phrase in the English language that's been used for a while, but I guess since Reddit has found it we have to keep ceding more and more parts of the English language to them.
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>>139115817
i got a surprise for you next thread
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>>139116844
I'll look forward to it.
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>>139116825
>ceding more and more parts of the English language to them
This is why we are learning Japanese. 4chan will go Japanese only soon.
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>>139116216
i doubt they get paid.
but i have seen a strange general increase in a style of shitposting where someone says something stupid or something close to being stupid and then, when they get a reply, they try to maintain an entirely pointless argument as long as they can, and will utilize any fallacy to do so, and often even turn someone's agreement into a an opposition to be argued with. it's really weird to me.
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