So Ii'm looking for a small server (ECC RAM is a must) for the bussiness I'm working for (5 ppl + boss). We need to host our local files on the network and two databases (MySQl and Firebird).
Do you have any suggestions in this field?
All i could find with good price to quality ratio was HP Gen8. Maybe you know some good 1U/2U server could buy used?
>inb4 use SOHO PC
What is it about the rackable form factor you need? Do you have a rack already?
>>77585
Nope, don't have rack, and i would like to aviod one. But if there are out there used good/quality servers, they are usuably on rack mounts. So if price/benefit would suggest it we could invest some bucks in small rack cabinet.
For what you seem to want, a microserver is ideal.
While I love rackables myself, they're not a good fit for what you seem to want. They're loud, power hungry, and annoying as hell to move around if they aren't on rapid rails.
If I were you, but had the experience of me, I'd take the microserver. Pic related, note the HP on the top.
Also I'm >>>/g/53453839 and >>>/g/53453680 . I'm glad the mods moved your thread holy shit.
>>77591
>For what you seem to want, a microserver is ideal.
At first glance YES, but the specs seem not so good. At the moment MySQL and Firebird DBs run on separates PCs, we just selected workstations which aren't used too much and during peak hours MySQL one gets 30% CPU usage and FB one 50%, they are both Windows Server 2000, i7-2600, 8GiB RAM.
Lower specs for Microserver woudl mean higher load and longer lock times, which would translates in worse application responsiveness. It wouldn't hurt much but still.
That's why i was looking at used rack mountable ones. They seem to eb pretty cheap.
>>77591
>I'm glad the mods moved your thread holy shit.
They haven't.
They banned me from /g/ and then i created new thread here as advised on /g/.
>>77597
MySQL and Firebird, on a Gen8, with quickly tuned databases should be pretty good, trust me or not. If you really want a cheapo server, look at the Dell CS-24. I have one at a nearby university running an experimental hadoop cluster.
They're an aborted Facebook custom order, so Dell/Facebook sold them dirt cheap with no support and they crop up all over the place.
>They banned me from /g/
Glad they're stepping up and raising the bar against shitposters.
>>77597
Gen8 is $300 (diskless)
Just found used CS-24 for $230, 32 GiB RAM, 2x Quad core Opteron 2373EE
It seems weird, isn't sole RAM more valuable than this whole set-up?
>>77607
Probably won't be ECC at that price, even if the mobo supports it. Unless it's really used and the guy desperately wants rid of it.
>>77618
Well it is sold by a company that specialiss in decomisioning datacenter stuff, they give 12 months d2d warranty.
But still looks sketchy.
I just went to HP's site
It doesn't say anywhere that the new Gen8 has ECC RAM.
Did they remove it?
I've just found this:
http://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/dell-poweredge-cs24-nv7-configure-to-order/
How is that possible? It's live giving it away for free.
Are those refurbs gonna crap themselves within 1 month or what???
>>77622
I've just got an answer form HP reseller.
They said that Gen8 doesn't have ECC memory! That's a huge bummer. To think that N54L was such a nice machine and now they produced a turd...
I think i will order CS24-NV7, i have 14 days to test it with money back guarantee.
Let me know how it works out.
>>77650
>http://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/dell-poweredge-cs24-nv7-configure-to-order/
It's an AMD from ~2005. It's practically an antique.
That said, although it's low on compute by modern standards, the built-in RAID and the 64GB means it will certainly be capable of your workload, and ECC RAM means you're safe from those nefarious cosmic rays.
>>77692
That's a bummer.
We bought a crapton of Gen7s to host static data for our porn and gambling sites.
>>77599
Anything i should look out for when testing these babies, other than memtest, perpherials test, visual and smell test? I've never had rack mountable unit under my wings, only microservers and server-wannabe PCs.
>>78029
Wouldn't just some old Skylake machine be better than this thing? only thing that appeals to me in this SEVEN year old server is the amount of RAM but only if it is ECC, but given the price i bet it's slow as hell.
>>77599
CS24 seems a bit old. There are DELLs R610 out there for around $400, IMO they seems much sensible choice than those weird CS24. Or at least DL160 for $300.
>>78421
>Wouldn't just some old Skylake machine be better than this thing?
A Skylake Xeon server, sure.
A random Skylake machine you can buy for $300? Not a hope in hell.
Yes, the processors are old, but it has eight of them. Yes, the RAM is old, but it has 64GB of it.
Plus the hardware RAID will smoke any $200 consumer machine pressed into service as a server.
>>78427
On the other hand, it's an eight-core Core2 Xeon that's nearly impossible to pay more than $250-plus-storage for. Nehalem never really set the world on fire, and the difference between a $200 eight-core Penryn and a $300 eight-core Nehalem is not exactly going to knock your socks off.
Sandy Bridge /was/ a dramatic improvement over Westmere; If you're going to pay up for a more modern platform, it really has to be Sandy-Bridge or later.
>>78493
>Yes, the processors are old, but it has eight of them. Yes, the RAM is old, but it has 64GB of it.
>Plus the hardware RAID will smoke any $200 consumer machine pressed into service as a server.
That's what i'm hoping for.
>Sandy-Bridge
I don't see myself anywhere near being able to get my boss throw this much money.
One thing brightened my mind a bit. I run from time to time old Pentium D 2.66Ghz with 2GB RAM at home for my fiddles with MariaDB. It handles 17GiB InnoDB metadata database with 100 INSERTS and 20 UPDATES per second, with 30% load. So any of those servers should be OK in our company.
I think i'll get DL160, i feel uneasy about those old Opterons.
