>need level 125 to unlock Permanent Terrain
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Honeslty, that seems pretty low compared to the other rewards.
>If you somehow won every possible token gamble, completed every quest, did every daily and weekly, but didn't pay a dime the highest you could get(Assuming you didn't pay for the jew bundle) is roughly level 80 before the pass ends.
>Costs roughly $1050 to max out the compendium if you're unlucky and jew-boxes don't give you a ton of levels.
>Nearly 30 bucks for a jew bundle with like 5 dollars worth of content in it on the community market.
I didn't think they could get any more jewish than the last few passes/compendiums. This one's cost-to-content ratio is an absolute joke, though.
But it's all cosmetic isn't it? I just tried my first actual game of dota today, I'd been playing league for a bit with a few friends and just couldn't deal with the community at all. Total trash
i remember getting to 110 just by casually playing during the previous TI
its not hard to level if you keep playing with other people with their battle pass
>>337897343
>coming from league and thinking another game's playerbase is trash
to be fair, dota's community has gone down the shitter, but come on man
>>337897343
Yeah, it's all cosmetic. Some people argue that some skins change the look of a hero too much and it slightly increases the amount of time it takes you to identify them, but if you're new that shouldn't be too much of an issue.
>>337897520
He was talking about the league community.
>>337897520
>>337897343
Sorry I wasn't very clear, The league community is garbage... The two games I've played of dota were really friendly, I really like the voice chat over having to ping and type everything
>>337897624
damn
i need to go to sleep
>>337897657
nah it's my bad, you worded it fine i just jumped to conclusions
that said after 4.3k+ hours on dota, fuck that game. the quality of the average player in terms of adaptability and capacity for cooperation has plummeted
>>337897343
>But it's all cosmetic isn't it?
It is but stuff like terrain skins are very welcome when you're staring at the exact same map for 3000 fucking hours.
There's literally no reason for the terrain to be temporary, especially when you're spending $10 on what's basically an advertisement for TI6. They're just using it to milk more money out of players.
>>337897343
Yeah but that's not the point. These compendiums(And valve-made content in general, as rare as it is nowadays) gets more and more scammy every year. It used to be you'd buy a compendium, and you'd get all the content, end of story. Now you pay 10 bucks for the privlige to grind for maybe 10-20% of the content unless you want to drop a few hundred dollars to get any of the not-shitty items.
Blame Valve's jewishness and Russian e-commerce faggots for taking the joy out of cosmetics and making it a contest to see who can outjew everyone else the most by charging hundreds of dollars for some tiny character model or texture. Nevermind the fact that they'd probably make a lot more money just selling all the cosmetics at a price reasonable enough that people other than autistic pixel-collectors or russian dota-lounge scammers will buy them.
And to make it worse they have a bundle they are selling for 27 bucks that has content that's actually worth 5-7 dollars.
>>337897657
play with /v/ and /vg/
this sounds like bait x 100. but reddit fucks are elitists even if they're in 2k MMR, the standard unwashed masses don't know shit from their own face
at least /v/g/ know how to play and have fun, and most are decent tier
>>337897835
> the quality of the average player in terms of adaptability and capacity for cooperation has plummeted
Fucking this what the fuck I thought it was just me being paranoid but it feels like the quality of teammates has absolutely nosedived. Battle pass times are the fucking worst too because everyone's trying to do these shitty quests and it fucks everyone over.
>>337897896
I would say I'm pretty awful and they'd shit on me, one of the things I do find a bit awkward is attacking, whether auto attacks or using an ability seems much slower or responsive than league
>>337898126
It's the turn rate. In DotA units actually take time to orientate to a target, and spells have cast times(As well as auto attacks having varying times to their attack animations). You get used to it after awhile and position yourself accordingly to account for it.
>>337898126
Yeah, one of the biggest things you have to get used to is the fact that every hero in Dota has a different cast point, or the time it takes their attack to actually hit. Every hero has a different cast point, as well as a turn rate (this is usually why League players think Dota is so sluggish) and taking those into account can heavily impact your decisions.
>>337898426
>>337898276
Are there any heros you guys would recommend as a good starting point? I had fun playing as deaths prophet, in league I jungled as my main role but ice heard that isn't really a thing in this game
>>337898561
Wraith King and Britsleback are pretty hard to fuck up if you click on the book icon at the top left and choose a user guide. 'Junglers' in DotA are considerably more difficult in DotA than League because their job is a lot more 'complex' than farming jungle creeps, and it usually requires you to exploit stuff about the character to quickly get into an aggressive stance and effect the game outside the jungle early on. Jungling is a lot slower than getting lane gold, so you have to find impact through other means.
>>337898561
Start out with simple heroes like Sven or Wraith King. They have very few abilities you actually have to use but can have huge impact in fights, so you can focus on learning fundamentals like movement, positioning, denying, etc.
>>337898837
>>337898756
I'll try them out tomorrow, are there any decent youtubers you guys would recommend maybing focusing on jungling just because I prefer that style of gameplay. Mobas kinda turn me off because of the laning and slow pace so I like jungling because I can be more active.
>>337898989
Purge does a lot of shit for new people on youtube, but I can't personally attest to the validity of it. He's been a fairly big face in the game's community for a long while so I'd have to assume he's at least decent.
>>337898989
> I can be more active
Play some ganking support like Lion or Bounty Hunter
>>337897343
Don't bother getting into Dota 2 anymore. The game has become absolute fucking trash and Valve just uses it as an e-Sport cashwhore now.
Please don't. Just don't waste your time like I did.
> IMMORTAL GARDENS TERRAIN - requires level 125 compendium.
Which is at least $57
LOOK AT THIS BULLSHIT.
http://oddshot.tv/shot/siractionslacks-2016051703859255
This map is LITERALLY pay to win as it shows you clear forest routes without any guess work memorization, and everyone else who didnt buy compendium is stuck with a forest in which you can't see routes clearly.
>>337899183
It's all I can play since I can't seem to queue in csgo anymore ;)
>>337899259
I don't understand what this is.
>>337899259
I love Dota 2, but that is some fucking horseshit right there. Hopefully players will demand it get changed.
>>337898561
noob friendly heros are:
wraith king
viper
ursa
drow ranger
sniper
>>337899259
What's this guy even saying.
What forest is there.
There's like a hedge maze
daily reminder cucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
>>337899537
>Valve
>Ever doing a single thing
>>337899509
In Dota 2, the sides of the lanes are filled with trees. A common strategy is when a player is under attack and can't win the fight, they retreat into the trees and try to teleport out. The trees contain alternative paths to hide from the enemy. However, the trees are purposely tricky to read so it's harder for you to know where the "juke" paths are.
The custom visual effect has it so that players can easily see which juke paths are there due to the hedge maze appearance and that visual effect is only available in the Battle Pass (which you have to pay for and level up to get to)
>>337897657
Lol you will encounter awful people, its only a matter of time. Stop now
>>337899642
That's the point. All non compednium level 125 maps there have a forest with unclear paths of trees that you need to memorize. here it's clear as day and the only way to have it is to buy the compendium and to level it to 125
>>337899847
>>337899797
oh damn that is super jew-y
mobas are shit and all but seriously
>>337899642
There are normally trees on the outside of the map with withs you can use to hide. No one really knows them all by heart. That cosmetic change (for the low low price of ~58 USD) takes the mystery out of it and makes it pretty easy to systematically check all the holes you might overlook.
So how would you even use a tango with those trees
Don't forget the new battle pass allows you to play with a "seasonal" ranked rating. At the end of the battle pass period you get to choose which rating (seasonal or the f2p one) get applied to your profile.
>>337899649
Eh, I think they listen to feedback if it can affect the gameplay or people bitch enough.
I have a feeling they will change this later on once enough people find out about this shit and especially if pro-players bitch at them (they probably won't).
That said, it's still pretty fucking inexcusable.
I'm glad to be leaving valve games for good and going to play overwatch. Valve is now worse than EA, they are the mega hyper jews.
It's just the same shit as TF2 now. Just cram it full of particle effects and shit that doesn't improve the game at all. Reminder, we STILL don't have all the heroes ported yet. STILL.
>>337900049
There are probably blocks within the hedges you can remove when selecting them individually.
>>337899259
>pay to win
For 1k shitters maybe. If you are any good at the game you should have all the juke paths memorized by now.
>>337900218
>making up excuses for literal pay 2 win bullshit
2 rupees have been deposited into your account pajeet.
>>337896595
lvl 125,
that's hundreds of dollars.
for one terrain.
while that terrain will be sold on market soon after the sell limitation ended, being at most few dollars each.
Evidence :
look up World Chasm Artifact from enigma.
>>337900216
I'm gonna have to demo it and see how that works because it seems weird, there would have to be trees too as it can't just be singleasier hedge lines where lone trees are now.
>pay some heinous amount of money to get the chance to buy a limited charge bottle that turns the river red
Fucking incredible. Literally bottomless greed from valve
>>337897080
this is my only problem with it. TI3 and TI4 compendiums were the best ones. They let you grind it out and reach great rewards without the need to pay for more shit but still has the option to do so.
Reminder that they still haven't awoken those god damn crystals or gems from TI4.
>Able to reset your MMR if you buy the jew book
Holy fuck.
I'm glad I stopped playing dota a while ago.
The terrain is fucking pay2win as fuck.
Look at the easiest juke of your life on the left side of the map.
>>337900359
Wait... what?
Are you fucking serious?
How fucking far has this game fallen? I haven't played in a couple years and that sounds goddamn Riot-tier, maybe even worse.
>>337900218
Not even professional players have all spots memorized, much less have the mental serenity needed to discern them in the split second decisions during a gank. Having them mapped out for you is a clear advantage, and the sole reason why valve disabled mods, because of the pumpkin shit.
Fucking Valve, supposedly the holy grail of supporting modding games, disabled mods that people worked hard on over that shit, and you're telling me they're now selling an even better version of that mod? Fucking incredible.
>>337900514
It will never be Riot tier cause heroes will never be locked behind paywalls.
>They delayed the Battle Pass until around the release of Battleborn and Overwatch
B R A V O V O L V O
>>337900568
This is why I couldn't get into SMNC.
It felt annoying to have heroes locked off to you.
I don't understand what's so bad about the maze, it's only on the radiant side of top lane. WOW
>>337900612
That is the point of delaying shit to help boost your game when other games come into the frame.
>>337900692
If you don't understand what is so horrible about the maze, you are 2k as fuck.
>>337900612
Dota 2 was totally unaffected by overwatch's free weekend, unlike almost every other online game
The majority of the playerbase consists of autists and third worlders
Anyone have the new weather effects? Does anyone get any FPS drops when using them?
>>337900402
Damn I still wonder why the fuck that thing is in my inventory
>>337900783
it's only at one spot, I'd understand if whole map looked like maze, but cmon. It'll get changed anyway cus everyone whines about it.
>>337900760
sent ;)
>>337900898
Left side radiant area also happens to be the hardest juke spots to remember. Of course it needs to be changed.
>>337900898
It's still actively part of the map. Tinker alone gets a massive benefit from it
Also the map looks like total shit, the tree textures are gamecube tier
>have a good time in 2013 when the game first came out of beta
>they actually listened to the community and removed sets/items that didn't fit characters
>come back and everyone looks absolutely retarded
>sets dont match themes or even hero colors anymore
>first thing I see is an axe running around and took me a moment to realize exactly what hero it was because he's wearing some retarded helmet massive lava cape and some big ass scythe
Like shit dude, some sets are fantastic but holy mother of fuck there's so many bad ones being added ingame like the death prophet hentai shit.
>>337900987
well if you say so.yes I am shit at the game.
>>337901028
>Necro fucking Legion
>>337901041
at the very least the sets aren't at the meme level of LoL (dunkmaster)
>>337901041
You should see some of the more recent sets
This is one of the compendium rewards
i wish valve didn't go full jew with cosmetics
i'm surprised they didn't implement the item-wear system from csgo into dota as well, it's kinda disgusting that not only do you have to gamble for a skin you want, you can (and likely will) literally recieve damaged pixels
does make me sad to see a game i used to love go down the shitter both balance and economy wise, but i guess that's just how it is.
>>337901179
I for real thought that was a new hero for a second.
Who the fuck thought this was okay? If I remember right, the design philosophy for sets was to make it match the character, and not obscure their silhouette, right?
>>337901179
They've gone too far
>>337901179
M U M M I E S
A L I V E
>>337901168
This guy knows whats up. LoL has the more out of place skins ever, not to mention all the slut skins for all the female heroes.
>>337900987
What are you guys taking about? Can someone post a screenshot of this area?
>>337901221
They need to constantly make cash with the cosmetics and since the dota2 crowd are suckers for hats, the fastest way to make easy cash is to churn out shit sets.
>>337901221
>damaged pixels
what
is this some kind of newfangled predatory pricing thing i haven't heard about
>>337901179
These ain't even the worst but they're fucking awful.
They're so thirsty for more money that they just up and add what the fuck ever now. It's tf2 all over again where the art style goes to absolute shit.
great game
>>337900803
Me too. My client even crashed once because of it.
>>337901398
>Tentacle gown for Death Prophet
shut it down
>>337901398
>more shields for sven
PLEASE STOP
>void gets two immortals
>Jakiro, Slardar and Viper's models still look like ass
Fucking really
>>337901378
in csgo the item skins you can unbox can (and will, usually) be covered in scratches/damage as the non-damage skin type is the rarest
this applies to every possible unboxed item (guns/knives etc)
>>337901354
i spent... probably too much on dota, total, because i enjoyed the game and i really didn't mind it before cosmetics went over the top and compendiums required multiple hundreds of dollars of investment just for shitty uninspired cosmetics that don't even suit the hero
>>337901430
There is more like pay2lose since you can't fucking see your target
>>337901398
>Sven raid Gear
>>337901398
Those are pretty nice tho, apart from tentacle DP.
>>337901559
wow that's actually kinda genius
it'll trigger cosmetic collector autism even harder
>>337901559
I know how that feels. I spend close to 200 on dota2 but I have 4000 hours and am 6k MMR. So what do I know? I have also recently quit the game since getting a job
>>337901328
>>337901564
Opponents can't see their trapped allies through it either, if you're good it can be used to an advantage to make swapping and eth blading harder for them
But really, all volvo has to do is remove the glare at the top and it's fine
>>337901559
>250+ hours on TF2
>150+ hours on Dota 2
>probably spent over £200 combined on cosmetics
>still complete shit at Dota
>>337901398
>baneling Nyx
YES
ESY
SYE
>>337901745
>150 hours
No wonder you are shit at dota.
>>337901626
>TA is asian now for reasons
>sven has a shield
>4 eyes for nyx who constantly makes reference to being blind
>mirana has a futuretech spear thing
Ironically tentacles on DP is the least annoying since the hero never had a design to begin with
>>337901626
Fuck off cunt. Sven is bad too. Nyx and assassin are acceptable but Nyx has 0 color control going on; his sets are all over the spectrum much like the people who make cosmetics.
I just want shit that isn't too over the top and fits the characters; they shouldn't look like completely different heroes willy nilly.
>>337901835
That's probably becauseI haven't played 1 match in Ranked. All unranked
>>337899183
>>337897343
play heroes of the storm, quicker matches, there is no need to be a tryhard and it's fun
>>337897343
Dota is the OG of shitty communities
>>337901656
i think it's gross as fuck, but mostly because it does trigger my autism and all the "clean" skins are retard expensive because they're the rarest
>>337901716
i spent probably like 500-750+ in actual cash on stuff, enhanced steam says ~2k+ but it's mostly from just reselling things on the market and then rebuying more things over a few years
>>337901871
>Skrillex haircut
when will this meme end
>>337901871
Is this Windranger? When did her dominant colour become brown?
>>337901863
those aren't eyes, those are spores/lights
it's an homage to the SC Baneling unit
>>337901969
desu I like the idea of having different levels of wear, but I think that the well worn skins should be the rarest.
>>337900310
No it's not, fuckwit, do the math. It's about 63 or so dollars.
>>337902065
there's another level above that with no damage whatsoever, if you want to buy it via the community market or off traders there's probably a 500% price difference between the bottom/top tier wears or more on most skins
>>337900310
>look up World Chasm Artifact from enigma.
Just checked and it's at £2.49 lowest
>>337901398
>that wisp
jesus christ
>there are people who still get butt ravaged about cosmetics and have no effect on gameplay whatsoever
The only questionable thing is the terrain with the easy-to-see juke paths
>>337901896
Protip: dont even go ranked until like thousand hours in, because you will get calibrated at a shit mmr and rising from >3k is really fucking hard unless you are very good at soloing games or spamming an op hero
>>337902236that's not wisp it's compendium experienceI don't doubt wisp will get a shity skin like that though.
>>337902253
I'm just fucking mad that valve disabled mods because of that, and now they're offering it again behind a paywall without even acknowledging legal mods
>>337902253
Why does Dota 2 look so much better than League of Legends?
>>337902379
source 1.95 > adobe air
>>337902338
>legal mods
Isn't that what the 'Custom Games' are doing?
>Windranger is favorite hero
>oh boy the quest line has a set for her
>she has fucking dyke hair
come on
>>337902438
I mean editing things like models for use in legit matchmaking games. Some people used it for silly shit or custom announcers, but one person made a pumpkin mod so valve disabled them all.
They were supposed to leave in -enable_addons, which let you change a few things like sound files and spell icons, but they straight up never bothered during the transition from source 1 to source 2.
>>337902624
They deliberately didn't enable it so that more people used the store/market to get stuff.
>>337901971
When you stop spamming "skrillex haircut" meme
>>337897080
>care about le cosmetics
>not just supporting the scene
LOL cancer
Nope, not gonna fall for this jewery again.
I stopped playing this bullshit game a month ago. Not reinstalling. Nuh-huh
I just got the lv1 battle pass. Did I fuck up?
>>337903550
>i gave money to modern valve
yeah
>>337903340
>>337903912
>current year
>giving money to anything
fucking corporate shills need to leave my board
So...you're still buying valve hats? In 2016?
kek
I sure am glad that I never listened to the /v/ contrarians that told me to play Dota 2
>>337901932
neck yourself filthy casual
Dude, you're talking about the company that is selling something meant for a CUSTOM GAMETYPE
Go on the dota 2 store, it's on the frontpage, I'm not making this up, it's so fucked up
>>337901932
I tried really hard to like hots but it is honestly shit. I don't understand how someone could enjoy that game.
>>337900402
Oh shit I forgot all about those things.
