>tfw want to invest 100s of days in an MMO but they're all ass
why can't they just be good bros? how do we fix this shit genre?
Vanilla servers
>>337546689
Better gameplay
>>337546689
>Remove normies
>Remove penalties to PK
>Remove the huge bloat of quests, focus on creating interesting and epic ones that are few and far between
>Remove instanced content
>Tougher mobs everywhere
>Remove fast travel
>Make acquiring personal boats/wagons/other means of travel than just mounts mandatory
>Make all items in the game permanently breakable. Your mount is at the end of its lifetime? Pay a horse taming player to tame you a new one. Your sword is 10 durability? Pay a blacksmith player to create you a new one
>proper skilltrees
>>337548502
>proper skilltrees
give me an example of proper skilltrees
>>337548726
While unrelated to MMOs I personally like the skilltrees from Path of Exile but also the one from D2
>>337546689
soon my friend, soon
>>337547830
Why do all mmos have boring as shit combat? Why are devs so scared of putting effort into their games?
The only way to properly fix MMOs is to kill them.
They have always been chat rooms wrapped around shitty gameplay.
I want an MMO with a good crafting system.
>>337549102
I think WoWs combat was bretty good.
>>337549102
Can you think of a decent combat system that's easy to synchronize inputs from like 30,000 users all at once?
>>337546689
Nigger if you want to work just get a job, because that's what MMORPG's are. Working your ass off for questionable rewards that you probably lhave lost fun in actually trying to get half-way through.
Just quit the genre.
>>337549718
>Nigger if you want to work just get a job
>>337549831
>Play MMORPG's that are as tedious as actual work
>Actual work gives you money
>MMORPG's gives you a shitty item that loses all meaning the moment you quit the game
>If you quit your job you still have the money and can use it somewhere else
>>337549718
How bad are things, really?
>>337549934
They didn't used to feel like a job anon, not back in the good old days. They used to be fun.
>>337549102
>all mmos
Black Desert Online
>>337549953
Unsalvageable bad. You thought MMORPG's have reached their worst? You thought wrong, on the dawn of mobile shit games MMORPG's will just become shittier and closer to mobile games.
Just check half the gook shit games in Korea, especially the newest hype games like Black Desert Online.
>>337550149
>pay to play
>then pay to win
nah no thx bro
>>337550151
>especially the newest hype games like Black Desert Online
Black Desert Online looked like it had shit combat from some of the earliest trailers. The game world and character creator looked great.That's all.
Play the old ones. Classic and vanilla freeshards.
Real games, as opposed to stuff made by accountants and marketers.
>>337550534
>Why do all mmos have boring as shit combat?
I pointed out one which has good combat because that's what you asked for. I don't give a shit what you think of the game as a whole, the combat is very good.
>>337550572
The world is pretty great, probably the best MMORPG world in a long time (if you enjoy semi-realistic Medieval worlds).
But the worst thing sadly is an all it's mechanics riddled with RNG that can and will set you back for several months if RNG if you are unlucky enough. The game is closer to a a Casino than an actual game and those that win often on the Casino will completely shit on those that don't.
>>337548502
>Make all items in the game permanently breakable.
This.
The lack of all endgame content could be fixed with this. Works especially well for higher tier loot because you could build around a cycle of having to obtain special building materials from professions, traders and dungeon runs.
>>337546689
Return of reckoning is pretty cool, T4 just got released.
>this low ass volume thread
>Specifically about MMOs
>/v/ board full of Civ. Overwatch and BF/COD shilling
MMO's have died, rest in peace the last chance of socializing online
>>337551592
thanks for this, played the game back then for a while but my pc was too bad so i stopped
seemd good tho, will try out
It's dead, Jim.
Nowadays it's either f2p shit with nothing but grinding, or an RPG that should've been SP instead of MMO and MMO formula ruins it.
>>337548502
You just described Asheron's Call 2 almost to a T. That MMO was genuinely ahead of its time
>>337546689
I know that feel.
I went on a bender with ESO but it was just all really bad, especially endgame. The only good part I liked when the environments which looked awesome.
Right now Project Gorgon looks like ass, plays like ass, runs like ass, encourages death, has nonsense skills like pathology, has empty maps, no clearly defined classes, and no tone whatsoever.
It's basically a bunch of shit thrown in an Asheron's Call-shaped bin and that's why you should try it out.
>>337546689
Come play Tree of Savior. The game's a technical mess but that'll be fixed eventually.
There's guild wars that enable PK on all maps, with no penalties.
Ignore the Steam reviews, if you go over them it's mostly just BRs and poorfags who downloaded the game a month ago and didn't know it was early access.
>>337549267
What mmo has 30k users on one server?
>>337553380
(or rather one server blade, realm, place, whatever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJSC_mteIg
>>337553253
I heard ToS was shit. Shill it to me some more. What's the gameplay like?
>>337549102
It's gotta be simple enough that it doesn't entirely matter if you're lagging out.
So mash clicks and hotkeys.
>>337553253
Give me a call when it's fixed. I don't mind grinding but I would like to attack when I hit the attack button.
>>3375539
When will you man children quit wanting to play mmos?
Unfortunely you grew up and even as autistic as you may be everyone gets tired of doing repetitive fetch quests and grinding levels eventually, if what you are seeking is social interaction similar to your shitty old guild in WoW you can also find that in tons of other games
>>337556850
>repetitive fetch quests and grinding levels
this doesn't have to be what MMOs are though
>>337556850
List to me the sanctioned tasks im allowed to do now apart from my career, my socializing, and my gym time, excluding house and car maintenance and family/friend upkeep time
>MMO's are repetitive fetch quests!
Bitch, LIFE is a repetitive fetch quest
>>337553253
have they fixed the 90% of classes that are useless yet?
have they fixed bosses bugging the fuck out?
have they fixed being able to cheese shit by abusing the horrible engine?
have they fixed the boring as sin combat?
>>337549162
This.
It's simple but i still prefer it to those "Action" MMO's
>>337559091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJSC_mteIg
>>337546689
Path of exile is good if you are willing to learn about the game
>>337546689
>>tfw want to invest 100s of days in an MMO but they're all ass
>invest
>invest
>>337560696
what's the issue here
>>337551592
started playing this and its fun
>>337546689
I think the problem with mmorpgs these day is because they all feel artificial. Every event is scripted there is no real open world PvP. You go out grind those quests, get that exp and those reward items. The monsters are basically EXP pinjanas, that request no skill whatsoever. Back in the day, you had no quests, you made the story yourself, you made your party then you joined or created your clan, you fought off greavers, you went to defeat the strongest bosses. None this arteficial fetch quest bullshit.
>>337546689
By removing the ability to solo to level cap.
>>337546689
Well it can't be too good because a large fan base will ultimately make the game cancer anyway due to the stupidity of the masses. A huge reason why League of Legends is so cancerous to me is that no one tries anything new in that game. They parrot top players and that's it.
It rattles me bones that people like victory so much that they cast aside that fun exploration of a game.
>>337566930
>they cast aside that fun exploration of a game*
sorry i have autism
>tfw bouncing from mmo to mmo because none of them since BC WoW can hold my attention for more than 2 months.
I played ffxi for 2 years, WoW for 3 ish years, but have tried so many MMO since I quit WoW it makes my head spin. Closest I got was FFXIV for 6 months before taking a break, then quitting all together shortly after 3.1 released.
Going to try swtor now since I'm moderately in the mood for star wars. Not that my expectations are high.
>>337565370
>i have issues with socializing so i'm gonna play this game that socializing is key in
stop being a little bitch or quit playing the game.
