Is playing games in Moon a good way to learn Japanese? Are some games better than others for learning Japanese?
Move to Japan. Go to some https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+language+school
>>337426169
>be me
>get to japanese 2 in college
>plays FFXI at night to practice japanese with the jp players
>meet a jp/en player in party
>uses verb-suru (verb-can do verb) to explain something
>jp/en player teaches me the correct verb conjugation
>asks if jp/en player has taken japanese or lives in japan
>jp/en player responds "oh i haven't taken any classes, i just watch anime."
>gives up on japanese and anime, thus averting the weeaboo lifestyle
![Atsu-giri Jason English sub (720p).mp4_snapshot_00.00_[2016.05.13_01.33.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v4nXHf4.jpg "Atsu-giri Jason English sub (720p).mp4_snapshot_00.00_[2016.05.13_01.33.00].jpg")
>>337428227
Did you know that..... you can learn Japanese and not be a "weeaboo" ?
>>337428614
yes but i was learning japanese at the time because i was terribly obsessed with anime and japanese culture at the time.
>gives up on japanese
was kind of a lie. i took it up to japanese 5 along with japanese conversation 1/2/3 and japanese literature. i wretch at the standards of anime nowadays but maybe i just grew out of it. don't really watch anime anymore or play jrpgs but i still listen to japanese music every now and then.
>>337428649
Thanks anon. I just assumed /a/ was a bunch of cuckolds. But woudn't that thread be better suited on /jp/ or something? /a/ seems very specific to just anime.
>>337428971
me
>>337426169
on topic the most effective way to learn is to actually take classes. i ended up flaking because i couldn't keep up with kanji (an average jp high school student should know at least 1800 kanji by graduation)
memorizing vocab is tantamount but for reading, a good way to practice is to karaoke. if you memorize the lyrics beforehand you can associate the words and recognize the kana/kanji better. we would do this every weekend back in college and it was pretty effective.
i dont think games are a good way to learn japanese until you're pretty advanced. you'll run into kanji that you probably wouldn't normally encounter in everyday conversation.
hiragana is mandatory. don't skimp on katakana just because you already memorized one phonetic alphabet. i made that mistake and now i can barely read katakana.
>>337426169
Got you covered F a M, thank me later
>>337430023
Anon are you trying to swindle me
>>337430023
>otokonoko
um
>learning Japanese
>not learning a more useful language
>>337430768
Like CPP or something?
We have this thread everyday with the same shit in it every single time
>>337430768
Besides English and maybe Spanish, not much else is "useful".
>>337431105
Mandolin!
>>337431146
>>337430768
yeah, no thanks
>>337430768
>Japanese
>Not useful
Despite all the fear mongering about demographic crises, the rise of china, lost decades, etc, Japan is still going to be a major player in the global economy, and critical player in the Asia-Pacific region.
The idea that learning any language that more than one hundred million native speakers is absurd. Besides, the act of learning another language, any language, is a useful practice in itself.
If anon wants to learn Japanese, then he should do so. You won't get far in learning a language if you're doing it for no other reason than to fluff your C.V.
>>337431682
Man toy story was the shit when I was 10
>>337431440
>businessmen are representative of an entire race.
I guess all black guys suck because of the ones in gangs.
>>337431440
>foreigner surprised he's treated like a second class minority in a country where he's not of the primary race
And you people wonder why nigs turn to lives of crime. This has nothing to do with China. This is the life of a minority in most places.
>>337431440
So... I should learn Cantonese instead?
>>337431105
Arabic and Russian are good. Mandarin too.
>>337431682
>a tongue spoken by a small chain of islands
>useful
Hell not even all of Japan speaks Crapanese. Some speak Ainu, Okinawan, etc.
>>337433846
>a tongue spoken by a small chain of islands that constitute the third largest economy in the world and America's most powerful ally in Asia
>useful
Yes, and?
>>337433846
They may be small, but their economy is huge. Third highest GDP in the world. You'd learn Arabic and get your head cut of by durka durkas just because more of them speak it? You'd go to shit filled India just because more people speak Hindi? You'd learn French just because a bunch of niggers speak it? (seriously, I think more black people know French now that whites)
>>337434189
So you'd rather learn Japanese and get whacked by the Yakuza instead?
>>337434292
Pretty sure you're less likely to get killed by the Yakuza in Japan than you are to get shot in America. Take that as you will.
>>337434168
>>337434189
If we're going by GDP then learn Mandarin Chinese instead.
>>337434419
But that comes with the problem of having to go to mainland China. Japan worships white men, but China hates them, as seen here>>337431440
>>337430023
>katakana (ひらがな) and hiragana (カタカナ)
Slays me every time.
>>337434510
I was only pretending! Get it? Hahahajaja
>>337434475
Actually if you learn their language and aren't a stereotypical murrican tourist you'll be fine in China.
And the whole "Japan worships white men" thing is BS. I know, I've been to Japan.
>>337434510
>Katakana
That means Japanese sword.
God damn it. Why do you people instantly think of Japanese as "the anime language/weirdo/nerd/degenerate language"? It's such a great place full of amazing sites, yet you assholes can only talk about the retarded subcultures? I'm sure you'll all call me a "legit weeaboo" for saying this, but if you do such a thing, I hope you'll learn the meaning of irony at some point.
>>337431440
it's more to do with being a pleb or ordinary citizen in china; i don't think native chinese are in a much better shape in day to day business. moral of the story: be rich or get rekt. same as anywhere, really.
>>337431146
me
>>337431440
nah man i get where you're coming from it was a family guy joke.
srsly i work for a chinese e-commerce company and everything you say completely aligns with the work conditions i have to deal with.
im in global marketing so luckily a lot of the shit isn't on me, but on technical teams to implement but unfortunately they're the same chinks that you described so well in that industry example.
it's completely true; i get refuted for reasons that are, not only in my specific field but in marketing in general are the most completely wrong excuses i have ever heard.
my partner nearly put in his 2 weeks, i could see him burning red and fuming in abject fury. im a more stable person, so i could only laugh manically in my head at how completely retarded this guy sounded. BUT, he's the CTO with close ties to the CEO so i knew it wasn't a fight we could win.
i might not be in my industry as long as the person in that example is/was, but it's the absolute truth; chinese are just the worst to deal with in any industry.
>>337434605
So why was the guy in that story in such bad situations?
>>337434880
What episode of Family Guy made this joke? All I can think of is the white guy finding his brother in China due to him being taller and whiter than everyone else.
>>337434896
pretty much what this anon said>>337434848
The rich are at the top and the poor are at the bottom. Same as in the US or anywhere really.
>>337434880
me
>>337434605
wrong. im asian (not chinese) but westernized enough to count among those alleged "white man worshippers" you speak of. it doesn't count for shit. they think they're right, and you're wrong no matter how much you're right and if they're in a higher position of power they will get their way no matter how much it hurts them in the end. and then they'll deflect and put all the blame on you no matter how much you warn them of the consequences.
>>337426169
Visit the Japanese learning general in /jp/. Among their links is a list of manga that features furigana, i.e., kanji letters with little hiragana/katakana next to it to show how it's read. I think that would be best for learning how to speak. Not so sure about learning how to write & read kanji.
>>337434971
where brian meets jillian's perfect fiance and she brags he speaks "orange". he corrects her by saying "mandarin" and she responds "mandolin!"
>>337435183
Jisho
>>337435183
i noticed that older japanese karaoke songs do not feature furigana above the kanji. i either mumble my way through it or ask one of my friends who know more to tell me how to pronounce it real quick before the line starts lol
Sauce on OP's pic is Wonder Project J2
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8na1p1d998lutn3/Wonder_Project_Series_%2B_Extras.zip
This includes two games both are translated, doujin, fanart, and a lot of other stuff
Emulators are included too
>>337435215
I'm confused, are you suggesting I use jisho to look up meanings of kanji that have no furigana? If so then how would I enter the kanji in the first place?
>>337435351
This is something that sort of confuses me. Do Japanese people instantly recognize the kanji and the correct reading on the spot when singing, seeing as how there are usually at least 2?
>>337435518
You can draw the kanji on jisho. The identification system is a bit iffy, though.
You can't learn Japanese.
>>337430768
>implying there is a more useful language for me
Never having to worry about translations for the massive amount of manga, anime, and vidya I go through would be real fuckin' nice. Also Japanese is a nice sounding language.
Only other language I have any interest in is Russian and that seems real useless.
>>337435780
Oh sweet, missed that. thanks.
>>337435780
Google Translate has better kanji recognition.
Say what you want about Google, but that's one thing they did right.
>>337435568
my guessing is that either the kanji is basic enough that it doesn't require a furigana or that the furigana is removed for censorship purposes to prevent kids from understanding what it really means, like in doujins.
>>337435916
Google OCR is also god-tier.
I don't know why they limited it to mobile application only.
How many languages do people on /v/ speak?
I only speak my native tongue (Norwegian) and English, but I feel a good third may be Japanese.
I've heard its hard as balls though, so might have to go looking for a good online course or something.
>>337436005
i speak the only language anyone on earth needs to know, american
>>337436005
You should start learning arabic.
It's going to be very useful in the future.
>>337436098
Hah, yeah probably. I see Norway being a very hot spot for Arabic in a few years. If not already.
>>337436005
Just English here. Planning on learning Japanese at some point but fear of failure is holding me back.
FUCK Spanish. I hate that goddamn language and I hated having to take it every year of high school. It sounds ugly and it's annoying to learn.
>>337435780
>>337435916
Just tried the two out with a single kanji (魔) & google got it where jisho wasn't even close. I daresay jisho takes into account the order of your drawing the strokes, which doesn't help an amateur much.
>>337436098
there's only 1 phrase you need to learn that pertain to that language though
>>337436169
Every girl I've ever met wants to learn Spanish or Italian. I don't know why they're so hellbent on those two above all others.
I can kinda' sorta' see Spanish because it's so widespread, but not Italian. Who the hell wants to learn a language because it's "romantic"?
>>337436272
Idealistic bitches that won't commit. I do think Italian sounds nice though.
>>337436161
Why didn't you stop it?
>>337436272
girls are retarded.
Also they dont need to ever work. Just to get married. So they can learn all the irrelevant languages they want or study art and other useless crap
>>337436418
What could be done though?
What is the purpose of speaking many languages?
The only reason I can kinda' get is for animufags who desperately want to watch anime without subtitles or play Jap-only games. Then you're doing it for a hobby, and I can totally see that.
But what about other languages? Like, take French, or Greek. What exactly is the point of learning those languages?
Most civilized countries speak English as first or second tongue anyway, so why bother with anything else?
>>337435916
Google has kanji recognition? Via what program? I recall GIS a kanji a few months ago with no results.
>>337436005
I first learned English, since I was attending a church-based kindergarten in Tokyo. I went on to learn Japanese as a second language in Japan International School up to 2nd grade elementary school.
Then I went (was dragged) to Iraq where I learned Arabic. Also learned French but didn't really speak it much so I'm no good at it.
Since I left Japan 23 years ago I've hardly had any opportunity to speak it, neither online nor here in Australia where there's some Japanese population. It's truly a language mostly reserved for the single country it comes from.
Still, I actually managed to improve as a youth by reading a fair bit of manga, magazines & watching tons of anime that my siblings had brought & recorded on VHS./blog
>>337436221
Allah Ackbar!
>>337436747
Business opportunities
Also cool if you want to live in that country
>>337436787
go to google translate, and at the bottom left of the text entry box you can switch from typing to drawing
>>337435938
That's not really censorship. Adults just don't need furigana. Also, does it really matter if the kids can see the nudity anyway?
>>337436797
>'Straya
I swear I'm not going to turn this into shitposting (immediately), but is it true that Australian schools teach their kids Japanese as a second language?
>>337436089
So Spanish? Or do you mean ebonics?
>>337436747
You can get a job somewhere if you speak english plus one more like german or russian.
french is useless completely and greek too. and trust me im greek so i know. in grade school we were taught english AND french for some reason. needless to say i TRIED to forget everything french as i hate that language.
>>337436876
i read something like that somewhere. could be totally wrong about it.
>>337436835
>Business opportunities
Really though? I mean, it sounds a lot like a meme to me.
How often do you really come across people who say "no, I won't be doing business with you because you don't speak my language!"?
I mean I'm sure being fluent with someone is a slight edge, but it's never a deciding factor, is it?
>>337436787
>>337436797
I don't think so. It might be an option available at some schools though.
Reminds me of a funny rumor I was commonly asked to confirm/debunk in Iraq: "Is it true that the Japanese are so good at designing that their streets don't need traffic lights? Because traffic flows without interrupting each other?"
My response:"If we didn't have diplomatic immunity over there we wouldn't have used the emergency-vehicle lane to circumvent the common 6-hour traffic jam on the highway. No, they have traffic lights, they even have traffic lights for crossing the street (not a thing in Iraq)."
>>337436835
You think that only Japan has untranslated films, books, and games? Also, what if I want to use a foreign imageboard?
>>337436005
Russian (native), English. Currently I'm trying to learn Polish and Japanese.
>>337437271 was meant for >>337436939
>>337436005
Native English speaker. Know some Spanish due to being invaded by Mexicans and Japanese because I'm interested in their culture and media. (more tokusatsu and kaiju films than anime, though)
>>337437034
I never said it's mandatory, it's just that you're automatically better in the eyes of a company if you speak multiple languages, if only slightly
>>337437325
I'm not particularly defending Japanese on this one, my earlier post applies to all languages.
>>337436005
Finnish, Swedish, English and German
Thinking of picking up a fifth one desu, a non-european one at that
>>337437334
Is there any good reason to learn russian or serbian besides for the shake of it ? i wouldnt mind moving from greece to one of those countries at some point given the chance
>>337437442
Sorry, >>337437325 was meant for >>337436747
>anglos ITT think that there is no merit to learning other languages
>knowing anything but your native tongue
fucking cuckolds. Why even learn English if it's not your native language, in fact? Just stay in your country.
>>337436835
The other responses you got are right, so I'll add another point of view: It really opens your mind to how different societies work & how different people think. It also sheds some light on their customs, origins, culture, history... basically, it opens doors in your mind.
>>337426169
come to us on >>>/int/
we'll help
.
maybe
>>337437589
you should learn english even if its not your native language to browse the fucking internet for example.
you wouldnt want to have the biased opinions and limited information 1 nation provides right ?
>>337437680
/int/ is a shit board.
>>337431440
We should have let the Japs finish them.
>>337437692
Why would I care what Korean people care about #blacklivesmatter?
>Is playing games in Moon a good way to learn Japanese?
Not really. You still need to know the basics (kana, grammar, essential kanji).
After that, sure. Consuming content you enjoy is the best way to learn any languange.
>>337431440
China is the biggest shithole on earth
And there are elementary school teaching it because its the future
That shit is sad
>>337436005
French, English, Japanese (in progress)
I liked German but had to drop it after high school because the french educational system after high school cranks that shit up to eleven and you barely have time to learn any language or have hobbies.
Picked Japanese recently (1 year 1/2 ago) and going to Japan in 2 weeks.
>>337437680
>/int/
No thanks.
>>337426169
>>337437680
just go to the djt over at /a/ everyday, make use of the fuckton of resources that are there and you'll do just fine.
>>337431440
this
why do people meme on the jews when the chinese are 10 time worse and blatant about it?
literally the most awful and corrupt country on the planet
>>337436005
Spanish, English, some French and some Japanese.
>>337426169
Learn Hiragana/Katakana, get some grammar in you, and play old NES RPGs. Look up every word you don't know and add it to an Anki flash card set.
While doing this learn at least 1 Kanji every day. Write them out 50 times each to aid memory.
>>337437767
you miss the point.
for example when speaking about politics if you are american and only get your info from american sources chances are you believe in bullshit.
also people from all over the world right stuff in english to make it available to bigger parts of the world population. What if you were chinese and some finnish guy wrote stuff that interested you in his native language and in english ?
ofc thats a rhetorical question. So.. yeah
>>337437642
Yeah well it did that to me for Japanese, but part of it was also thanks to my Japanese teacher who talked a lot about etiquette, tradition, history etc. Etymology is also fun to dig into in that language.
>>337437496
Well, you'll be able to play obscure STALKER mods if you learn Russian. But if you are planning to move here it will help, since not many Russians can speak any other language. Also you'll be able to learn other slav languages much more easily, if you learn one of them. Ukrainian for example.
>learning Japanese instead of the superior asian language.
kekekekekekekeke
>>337438006
Etymology is fun to dig into in any language, especially when you know multiple languages that have a history together.
And yeah, I didn't mean knowing the language automatically meant you'd be exposed to the culture & customs, but it'll give you the opportunity to learn about them directly.
>>337437849
>go to /djt/ everyday
you're doing it wrong
>>337426169
>Is playing games in Moon a good way to learn Japanese
Depends om what you're playing... No fantasy games they'll add unnecessary vocabulary to your brain and nothing too long, something like Katawa Shoujo or some other VN would be good for practice
>Are some games better than others for learning Japanese
I'd reccommend not using vidya as a staple of leaqrning Japanese, however everyone is different in how they learn and what is effective for them, for example I'm using TV shows like dramas and period pieces listening to what words they are saying and practicing my pronunciation... if I don't understand a word they use i pause and look up what was said.
A good way to learn any language is to find the best way that keeps you interested and motivated in doing so... you have specified that vidya is your desired choice so go for it
tl;dr wouldn't recommend vidya as practice but maybe that's how you'll learn best, everyone is different
>>337438149
Wow it's really like I'm on /int/.
>>337438149
Korea is the poor man's Japan.
>>337438229
>add unnecessary vocabulary to your brain
Like I'm really going to think that モーグリ is a real word or think of using it in a regular conversation.
>>337438229
This anon has a point. If you want to practice Japanese, keep in mind that manga, anime and vidya are entertainment first and foremost. It's not created in any way that would make a learner improve. However, like he stated, some people learn better that way : I have myself made some major progress with JP vidya but the progression curve happens to be quite logarithmic.
In addition, never make the mistake of playing a game you already played before for a second time in Japanese. If you already know what the story is, what the UI says etc., your experience will be very biased and you'll just end up glazing over all the text automatically when you're not up to read, instead of challenging yourself.
>>337431440
>tfw I'm studying mandarin right now
>>337429531
katana a shit to remember, the more complicated hirigana characters are worlds easier to associate memories with since they usually take a decent amount of effort to get the curves right.
>>337435568
It's not like the kanji exist on their own and you have to figure it out just by looking at the kanji alone. Most words are comprised of either multiple kanji or of kanji with hiragana, making it quite simple to recognise individual words. Japanese people aren't reading kanji, they're reading words that contain kanji.
If all else fails, context will make it pretty obvious which meaning is intended.
>>337435916
Their katakana transliteration is god-tier as well.
>>337436939
Don't know about Australia but in NZ you can learn Japanese as a second language in school. It's optional, you get French and German at first, and then in later years you can start learning Greek, Latin, Mandarin, or Japanese.
>>337436005
French (native)
English
Fuck learning Japanese.
>>337430642
Nothing wrong with that. It's like complaining about onna no ko, joshi, shoujo etc.
>>337436005
English
American English
>>337440208
otokonoko is pretty much slang for crossdresser now
>>337440304
Wait, since when? It's just another way to say boy?
>>337436005
Spanish (native)
English
>>337436005
native english speaker
I'm conversational in dutch, and that kinda extends to a bit of german
I know a bit of afrikaans too
>all this terrible fucking advice
Makes me laugh every time.
Don't take a course, it's a waste of money and time. Study kanji if you want, it's up to you, but if you do it, do it at the start for maximum benefit.
A standard pace is 20 things a day, any lower and you're really not learning anything. Start slow, and work your way up to find the level you're comfortable with. 20 to start, then after a week add another 5. Keep doing this until your reviews feel like too much hassle, then drop down by 5 to hit a sweet spot.
The single most important thing is not to spend all day with your head in Anki. You should never be hitting 2 hours, and going beyond an hour is pretty shitty. The rest of your time should be spent doing whatever you want, but try to stick to Japanese shit. Read some fucking Yotsuba, watch TV, read some porn because the dialogue is generally 3rd grader level, the more time you spend consuming Japanese shit, the faster you'll get where you want to go.
>>337430281
>>337436939
Yeah, a school will either do Italian, French or Japanese, but language classes are fucking horrible here
It's mandatory that everyone does a language class in primary school, but the teaching quality is horrible. After seven years of italian, I only learnt how to count to 39 and ask someone how they feel
>>337440412
>>337440304
男の娘 =/= 男の子
>>337440412
do a google image search for 'otokonoko'
mind/boner blown
>>337440469
another saffer?
>>337440638
Language classes are trash EVERYWHERE. Unless you live in a country with 2 native languages, are willing to basically teach yourself the language to play video games or shitpost online, or have bilingual parents, you'll never learn a second language as a kid.
>>337440753
Nope, Nambian expatwhy the fuck is Dale Steyn hanging out with Sandler?
>>337440731
How can I have missed this term? I even live in this shit hole called japan?
>>337440808
Nigga, I just want the easy credits.
>>337440808
>Unless you live in a country with 2 native languages
Sweden only has one native language and average swede can speak two secondary language other than Norwegian and danish.
>>337440913
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mzLXqJsryY
He's literally the best bowler in the world since McGrath retired and the greatest to ever play for South Africa, and this is how he spends his spare time
>>337441136
Speaking languages that are incredibly closely related to you and can be learned in a week isn't fucking impressive.
Speaking any euro language isn't impressive.
>>337440808
not really
I grew up in Hong Kong and three languages in school
>>337441406
I really hope one of them wasn't English, because you're not really selling it here.
>>337440547
Solid advice.
Listening to japanese radio while you do other shit is pretty useful in the long-run too.
>>337441524
Mandarin, Cantonese and English
>people who think their filthy native languages or ones they learned in school are some kind of badge of honor
If you know any shitty mainland euro languages, you were abused as a child. Either your parents didn't love you enough to just teach you English, or they were too stupid to do so.
If you learned a language that wasn't English by yourself with no real help, then that's fair enough. Dumb as hell, and almost certainly a waste of your time, but at least you made the conscious decision to do so.
>>337441317
I said other than Norwegian and Danish. I'd almost say everyone knows English, some learn finish, Spanish, German, French, Russian, Hebrew etc who aren't even immigrants. The only similar ones to Swedish are English, Danish and German. But English is a bit unfair to mention since it's easy to learn and easily accessible.
>>337436939
They tried to teach us Indonesian. Went through 3 or 4 teachers that couldn't handle banter, pretty sure one killed itself. Don't know a word of Indonesian after 3 years of it.
>>337441731
And what wonderful and useful language did you learn apart from english that isn't spanish, french and mandarin?
>>337441948
>They tried to teach us Indonesian
What the fuck?
Why? Indonesia is like shit hole of South East Asia aka. shithole of shithole.
>>337441731
>tfw I could have learned something useful like spanish of french
Why did I ever think it was a good idea to learn Latin? I don't even remember the grammar, just the vocab.
>>337441991
As a kid? Nothing, I was lucky enough to be born in a country where people already know the most important language on Earth, and I completely ignored the mandatory lessons.
>>337442107
>spanish and french
>useful
Yeah, the guy working the check-in counter at your hotel is going to be super impressed, dude. These languages have zero fucking applications if you already know English.
>>337442107
>Latin
It's more like a hobby thing. Sort of like a party trick, but for language.
>>337442219
>Yeah, the guy working the check-in counter at your hotel is going to be super impressed, dude. These languages have zero fucking applications if you already know English.
Spanish and Mandarin has more people speaking it as native language than english though.
>>337442420
Yeah, by people who don't matter.
>>337426169
English is my second language and laying video games in English, mostly RPGs, slightly improved my vocabulary.
It's an entertaining way to read more, so it might help you out. Kanji seems hard a fuck, though.
>>337442420
And none of those people are worth talking to or have anything interesting to say, genius.
You might as well learn Hindi to go talk about how great it is to poo in loo.
>>337442563
Neither is most english speaker. I don't see your point.
>>337442067
The excuse was that its the closest country to Australia.
>>337442219
Well my school was only offering those 3 languages, not like I have any use for Latin other than helping me grasp some derivative English words.
>>337442685
Feels like your school boards' just trying to siphon out the budget by hiring some immigrant for minimum wages and keeping the rest.
>>337442760
Being able to grasp a few derivatives is infinitely more useful than being able to talk to French people. They all know English anyway, they just don't use it because "muh culture".
>>337442852
Huh, never thought of it that way. I guess that's one way of looking at it.
>>337441016
You're not reading enough trap manga
>>337426169
The whole Zelda series is a pretty good start since they list the hiragana above the kanji in the text.
Really though you should be using various sources and to be completely immersed is the best way to learn a language
Way better than just sticking with one learning method.
>>337443052
Well, I've read some, but most usually involved a boy or boyish looking character. So I just always assumed they used it as, well, boy.
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俺は鍛えてるスジ筋!黒髪ショート。運動は陸上とか。
雄汁、精子まみれでオス同士楽しみてえ!
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都内、新宿近辺。
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ペニスペニスペニス
チンポチンポチンポ
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ホモ最高だぜ!!
>>337444367
That's pretty gay, anon.
>>337433313
kek
>>337430768
What's useful? I know Russian and kinda know English. I need to play my chinese cartoon vidya, nothing else. I could learn any other language and use it for nothing ever. So useful.
>>337436272
ItaliNo razza maestra.
>>337439134
Move to Japan
t. live in tokyo
>>337442635
Neither are most English speakers*
>>337426169
vidya aside the internet is useful as fuck. wonder why people still hardly use it to learn a language. there are no fucking borders. on top of that its fucking free. you can ever meet with fucking japanese.
its not the 20th century anymore. you just live in the fucking future where in the cyberspace you can go wherever you want and meet whoever all over the world. all you need is some courage to do it.
Has anyone actually lived in Japan?
Is it as horrible as I imagine? I mean, you have to live in a small apartment, save money on everything, noone will be a genuine friend to you, nobody wants to speak Japanese with you (because they hate when gaijins use their sacred lenjuage).
Is it true? Or is it a nice country to live in?
>>337446429
It's a decent country with some really dumb niggles, like paying for everything in cash.
>been grindan' that anki
>thought I was ready for the big leagues
>DL japanese cia of FE:Fates
>literally no clue what's going on
I've never felt so retarded in my life. What did I even gain from those two years?
>>337430768
I already know English, Spanish and Catalan
Now I need japanese for muh eroges
>>337446573
>grinding anki for 2 years
>expecting to know anything
You're an idiot, dude.
>>337446429
>save money on everything
In my experience most things are cheaper there than in the US or Europe.
>noone will be a genuine friend to you
?
>nobody wants to speak Japanese with you (because they hate when gaijins use their sacred lenjuage).
???
If it is a nice country or not entirely depends on your personality and if meshes well with their general culture.
It has a lot of pros for sure, though.
>>337446573
>He fell for the Anki meme
Anki should be a side, secondary tool. The real deal are grammar books, lessons, videos... those will teach you how to read.
A program throwing words at you won't teach you shit, just fill your head with contextless info.
>>337446548
>>337446671
Problem is - I can only work there in capacity of a teacher. Don't think that will rake me enough dosh.
>>337446429
>Is it as horrible as I imagine? I mean, you have to live in a small apartment, save money on everything, noone will be a genuine friend to you, nobody wants to speak Japanese with you (because they hate when gaijins use their sacred lenjuage).
I live in pretty comfy rural Japan.
Small apartment. Not the best pay. I have made one genuine friend. I'm not the type to have friends, though.
Most things are pretty cheap here, it seems. At least compared to America.
Everyone speaks to me in Japanese. That may be to being in a ruralish place.
Today was the first time I randomly got English. Some old clerk at a konbini said 'thank you very much' instead of their regular shit. Was kinda nice hearing something different, actually.
Most of these things really depend on where you live and what your job is, though.
>>337446429
I live in tokyo with my gf. Apartment is smaller than what I was used to in ausfailia but perfectly sufficient for us.
Everything is at least half of the cost of Sydney, if not a quarter.
I get invited to baseball by co-workers, occasionally go drinking with a random old lady who lives near me, hang out with dudes from my martial arts club and have random uni students asking to add me on facebook and line at izakayas.
They want to use English because it's free English lessons. I generally end up speaking half-half because my moon isn't good enough.
We originally planned to stay for a year but recontracted because we love it here.
I can't speak for corporate culture but, in my experience, that's colossal faggotry regardless of country. My mates who work in big companies at home are pulling 14+ hours days too.
>>337446962
Filthy ALT here. I'm >>337447215.
I get paid around USD 2100/mo. We split the rent and it comes to around 360 each/mo plus gas and electricity. I've got a modelling gig this year which is great money (like 1500USD for a two day shoot) but most castings are during the week so the ones I can attend are few and far between.
Damn, are there good grammar teachers with a charisma of Namasensei?
>>337447215
>>337447360
What do you do for you job, anon? I only have a degree in Linguistics.
>>337447360
How did you get into modelling?
>>337436005
Primarily English, learnt Spanish in school it's OK for a gringo. Might decide to learn Jap for Dies Irae or Muramasa.
>>337447567
Like I said, filthy ALT (assistant language teacher). My company sends us out to public schools and we assist the native teacher with English lessons. In elementary that means, generally, you run the show but it depends on the teacher. In junior high it's either half-half or you pretend to be a tape recorder (again pending teacher).
>>337447374
Check out TheJapaneseManYuta. He has a channel for vox pop shit like "would you date a foreign guy" and "what do you think of weebs". He has another channel for Japanese language lessons. No idea what the lessons are like but he's a pretty chill dude.
>>337447591
A guy I work with put me in touch with a couple agencies he gets gigs though.
>>337436005
English
French
Never bothered to learn a third
>>337447851
Nice. Is it easy to get an ALT position? Do I need to come there first or I can find it at home on the Internet?
Do they bother with certificates like CELTA or some shit?How hard it will be for me since I'm an Eastern European scum?
>>337447851
>you pretend to be a tape recorder
You mean, like just being there to pronounce things in the correct way and not the engurishu way of theirs?
By the way, how about non-native English teachers teaching English? Have you tried giving classes on your own for extra cash, and was it hard to find clients?
>>337437496
Another cheeki here. Don't. Just don't. There isn't anything good here. Learn a different language.And Stalker is shit.
>>337447851
>Check out TheJapaneseManYuta. He has a channel for vox pop shit like "would you date a foreign guy" and "what do you think of weebs". He has another channel for Japanese language lessons. No idea what the lessons are like but he's a pretty chill dude
Alright, thank you!
>>337436005
Only fluent in three, English, Irish and German. Wish I could understand an Asian language.
>>337448063
Nope. Previous teaching experience of some description is well regarded but not essential (I taught martial arts). I have CELTA but my gf and I were the only ones in our intake with an actual ESL qualification.
The company I'm with is called Borderlink. They hired me from Ausfailia. Interac does the same and pay more + transport but they can be pretty shitty to work for from what I've heard. Steer clear from big eikaiwa. They treat you like shit and hold you hostage with your visa.
>>337448075
Pretty much. They just use you in place of the textbook CD. I got offered one job doing that but I don't have much free time between work, training and doing a teaching degree by long distance. I have a few mates doing it though. Most companies will be cool with it as long as it's a) not the kids you teach or b) in the same city as your schools.
>>337448330
Thanks for your answers.
Hey, about the modelling gigs, have you ever noticed shady dudes hanging around the photo shoots or something, I mean, I tend to imagine that in an industry like that the 極道 presence would be more apparent.
>>337448609
Nope. My stuff is mostly commercial. Like I got an offer for a stroller online and print commercial just today. Maybe in the fashion side?
>>337448723
So, once again, how hard is it to get a teaching gig for a non-native English speaker?
Say, I'm Russian or Estonian or any other type of Eastern European guy, what are the chances for me?
And is that ALT position salary enough to sustain myself?
>>337448980
You'd probably need some English language certification to demonstrate your proficiency. There's three or four filos at my company, a couple chinks and possibly a Russian. There was also a Glaswegian. God knows how he got a job. Fucking native speakers can't understand Glaswegians.
Assuming you don't have any debts to pay while you're here you should be good. There's an american guy who's been paying off a car the whole time and he's been struggling but managed to get through.
One thing to bear in mind if you don't get paid for two months due to how pay cycles work here so you'll be living off saving for getting your shit set up.
>>337426169
You will not LEARN by playing games
playing jap games can AID learning by reinforcing concepts, but the actual foundation of learning has to be an actual learning framework
>>337449203
if = is*
あなたはわかりません。
>>337448980
Not him, but I'm in the same position as you and I've looked into that kind of case.
It's hard as fuck, but kinda possible. J-vloggers tards always get questions like that and they don't discourage you or anything. Only thing, be sure to bring lots of money just in case, have a back up plan, have contacs beforehand (like tie in positions from Asian Studies or something), real experience of teaching, N2... And it's better if you are on the white skinned side.
>>337449203
I just want to bolt my country. I've been working as an interpreter for 4 years now and I'm in dire need to swtich the scenery around me.
How old are you, my man?
>>337449383
Fair enough. If your English is good enough to work as an interpreter I doubt you'd have much trouble.
I'm 30.
>>337449253
This, but it's a great aid.
I mean, at least games are real raw stuff that you will have to deal with sooner or later. Struggling the first year with a game or a VN or manga is miles better than avoiding any kind of real contact like some college kids, Anki autists or JLPT grinders do.
genki has the deepest lore
>>337449570
Not just an interpreter.Simultaneous interpreter.
Do I need to know any Japanese beforehand? I've got my N3 certificate but it's old as balls.
>>337441016
Well it does mean "male daughter"
>>337435843
You can visit us sometime, besides we have some great books and movies.
>>337449953
I had shitty high school moon. Even now I'd say I'm survival level at best. Probably N4 but I'd be fucked on kanji. One of m mates had literally nothing aside from konnichiwa and sushi.
>actual chill thread about Japanese that doesn't entirely devolve into "weeb this" "anime that" shitposting
Why can't we do this when it's daytime in America?
>>337451204
The shitposters are asleep. Careful though, you might wake them up.
>>337451204
But where da games at tho.
>>337426169
Old Japanese games are all in Hirigana and Katana with spaces between words partially because they were meant for children and partially because they didn't have enough room to put in a bunch of Kanji shit. And the spaces were so it could be readable.
So for picking up some basic grammar and vocab they could be okay. Though you should teach yourself hirigana/katakana first.
Like you wont be an expert but it's decent practice especially considering you don't need to learn a shitton of kanji first.
>>337436005
jeg snakker dansk og engelsk
>>337451118
Any chance you could write about monthly expenses in Tokyo? (I'm assumming you're there)
Any other helpful tips?
Is it worth going there? I mean, you're from Australia - why would you ever consider leaving that wonderful country?
>>337446429
none of that matters and can be offset by gitting gud and having a big penis.
>tfw going to live and study in a japanese university for a year and cant speak a word
send help
>>337454314
You'll learn it there, anon
>>337450630
Otoko no ko 男の子 means boy, or rather child of man/male if you want to be literal.
But I saw another term mentioned in the thread otoko no musume 男の娘 which pretty much means what you are saying, daughter of male/male's daughter.
>>337454314
Fins a japanese friend or you're fucked when it comes to japanese. Try not to be a fucking giant also, because most people will avoid you like the pest outside places like Roppongi.
>>337454984
How do I say "my wife's son" in Japanese?
>>337455047
im above average height, so probably tall in japan hopefully. Is that ok?
>>337455146
僕息子の妻 (Boku musuko no tsuma)
>>337455760
Why answer if you're literally braindead?
>>337456036was I supposed to write 妻の息子 instead of 息子の妻?
>>337455760
I think that's "my son's wife" rather than "my wife's son."
>>337455201
As long as you're not 195 cm like I am, you're fine.
>>337456245
It's more like I, son's wife. Literal fucking gibberish.
>>337455760
Correction: 僕の妻の息子
>>337456315
僕 can't also be used as my rather than I?
>>337456445
Not when you don't attach any particles, fucko.
>>337456445
My is just possessive for "I", but since anon didn't add "の", it takes the form of "I" instead.
>>337456531
Okay. Thank you.
>>337456445
私 watashi 僕 boku 俺 ore
all these means I/me but differently polite. Watashi is standard. But when you speak casually with friends, you sound like a dumbass if you use this.
Boku is for male or sometimes tomboys. Used in casual speak more often.
Ore is a more informal if not rude to say. Also used casual, but only with friends or if you want to be rude to someone.
If you want to make any of them as an I that owns something, you add the particle の no.
>>337433749
Russian is useful only for /lit/ anons.
>>337430768
English is all you need. But for Americans it'd be only logical to learn Spanish to a some degree.
>>337456757
>English is all you need.
I sincerely wish this was true here in Japan. If that was the case I didn't have to learn this piece of shit language.
>>337456813
Japanese is easy as shit, faggot. Maybe don't live in a country you don't like next time?
>>337436005
Russian, English, I am learning hiragana and katakana right now to see if I'll want to take on Japanese seriously.
>>337456368
妻の息子
You can drop the 僕の as subject is often implied in Nip.
>>337456813
Well, fucking duh you should learn language of the country you currently inhabit, fucking baka.
>>337426169
Zelda for beginners, random JRPGs for intermediate learners, sound novels for advanced learners.You won't learn Japanese anyway, the vast majority of "learners" crash and burn early on.
>>337431440
Does this mean I can go to China, ignore any basic human rights and decent business practices and become a millionaire?
>>337456742
What do females use in a casual situation since they can't use boku?
>>337457039
私 but saying it as Atashi instead, dropping the Wa and add A instead.
>>337436005
Spanish, English and Portuguese.
>>337456932
As long as it has been implied before hand what they are talking about.
Here's a question for youse, anons.
What's harder: Chinese or Japanese?
What's better?
What gives you more career opportunities?
What won't be a waste of time in the end?
>>337436005
Swedish, English, German, French, Japanese.
I can understand a bit Finnish and most of Danish and Norwegian. The perk of being from the nordic countries.
>>337432874
That's not how it works.
>>337426169
Seriously, get a damn textbook. A video game is not going to teach you the language. It might be good practice, but if you want actual lessons, you should get a book.
>>337457392
Chinese for all of those questions if you look at how the chinks practically are buying the world. Which one of the chinese I don't know, but I'd guess Mandarin.
>>337426169
>Wanting to learn Japanese in 2016
For what reason? Pretty much everything of worth out of Japan gets translated
>>337457392
>What's harder: Chinese or Japanese?
Japanese.
>What's better?
Japanese.
>What gives you more career opportunities?
Chinese.
>What won't be a waste of time in the end?
That's entirely up to you. Are you planning on moving to China? Do you want to do business with Chinese companies? Or do you want to play games and watch TV from the other side of the world?
The value of a language is entirely up to you.
>>337430768
God forbid you learn for the sake of learning
>>337456315
>I (male), my son's wife
>An H-manga about a trap who lives alone with his shota son (anime magic) that forces "her" to perform wifely duties for him
