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Will we ever see another Metroid after this disaster?
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Will we ever see another Metroid after this disaster?
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>>337291990

Are you posting in unicode son? Theres nothing in your post.
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You know, I could've forgiven this game if it was just bad. I could've forgiven it even if the story was hogwash and turned Samus into a whiny crybaby. I don't play games for story, right?

No, the reason I still haven't forgiven them for it is because, during development, someone came up and said "let's make every cutscene unskippable, then dedicate an entire gamemode to letting the game play itself in a string of non-interactive cutscenes". And then the higher ups, including Sakamoto, approved of that idea.

Just gotta wonder who was on drugs that day when they decided that NINTENDO would allow a game to play itself in a cinematic experience.
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>>337291990
FPBP
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>>337292314
Don't forget looking for something on screen without knowing what you're looking for.
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>>337292314
Sony infiltration
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>>337291738
We didn't saw any other F-Zero after the success of GX, so stop bitching and shut up, Metroid babies.
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>>337293230
But that's different. GX was a great game
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>>337292314
Don't forget having to stand still to fire missiles.
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>>337291738
Not for a while.
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>>337291738
1. you got one coming in the Summer
2. wait until Sakamoto is finished with his non conventional projects
3. shut up and wait
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>>337295567
>wanting Sakamoto after he was the guy who ruined with Other M
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>>337295567
Fuck Sakamoto. He needs to stay away from Metroid.
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Inti-creates should make one.

I like how they do platforming stuff.
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>>337295642
>>337295713
So you two fags want a FPS wanna be from Tanabe after he fucked up Prime with Hunters, Corruption and now Federation Force? Prime 4 won't even be good because it will be an extension of the shit he gave us in these three games.
Also too fucking bad if you don't want Sakamoto because I got some bad for you he's still in charge and he plans to come back to games like Metroid when he is finish doing with all other devs do, build a new audience with new types of games.
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>>337296426
>Corruption
>bad
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>>337296426
>>337296630

I'm personally waiting on the Metroid 2 remake. As much as I enjoyed Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, it kind of had a little too much story for me. I wouldn't dare call it a cinematic experience like Other M, but it taught me that Samus doesn't need to talk, and it was excessive when they had her do it. We need to really buckle down and get back to subtle story-through-gameplay design.
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>>337296630
It was bad, going from planet to freaking planet is NOT Metroid. In Prime 1 & 2 you explored different environments on ONE planet. Prime 3 is the most linear Prime next to Hunters. Let's not forget Hyper Mode with heavy pushed towards combat instead of classic Metroid exploration, fuck Prime 3.
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Samus has nice legs.
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>>337297067
what about them cheekbones
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>>337291738
Dark souls 3 is the best metroid game I've played in years.
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At this point I think Nintendo needs to get someone from outside Nintendo to make the game. They clearly don't know what to do with it.
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>>337291738
>believing tumblrina memes
Daily reminder that the "Other M was bad" memes were pushed by feminists who were butthurt that a woman in a video game acted more realistically than MUH STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN mary sue bullshit. Japan had no problem with the "awful" story, and it was meant for that audience anyway.
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>>337299820
nice try tumblrfag, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>337299820
>Daily reminder that the "Other M was bad" memes were pushed by feminists who were butthurt that a woman in a video game acted more realistically than MUH STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN mary sue bullshit.
what are you even spouting about?
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>>337299820
Feminists don't even know Other M exists.
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>>337299820
Dobson and Moviebob, two known feminists, liked Other M tho
and tumblrinas wouldn't even care about Other M or Metroid outside making shipping fanart of Little Mac and ZSS.

also
>japan
>liking Other M
http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-metroid-other-m/
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>>337299820
anon, listen

they wouldn't give a single damn about anything in Metroid or Other M as long pic related exists in their minds. that's want they want in Metroid.

you've seem to missed the Samus is trans mini-controversy
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>>337299820
Other M was off of every feminist radar until Smash 4 came in triggering every tumblr blogger fuck due to the non-canon concept art heels.

years later they coped with it and started made shit like Zero Suit Fox
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What has sakamoto been doing since Other M?
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>>337299820
>a woman in a video game acted more realistically than MUH STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN mary sue bullshit
so you're saying Super Metroid and Metroid Prime is bad and feminist because Samus wasn't around gay power rangers shooting up Mother Brain, Kraid, Metroid Prime, or Ridley?

i think Federation Force would be your GotY, 4 fed troopers are actually doing their job for Samus this time. and Other M is heavily influenced in the Metroid Prime game.
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>>337301732
Tomodachi
now, Miitomo
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>>337295808
but Zero/ZX games were nothing but corridor hallway action shit?
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>>337301876
Holy shit, lol, is he being managed out?
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>>337301732
Working on "New Experiences".
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Other M is what happens when the story becomes so offensive it ruins decent gameplay pixel hunts aside.
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>>337296426
>Sakamoto because I got some bad for you he's still in charge
Tanabe said he's in charge
Miyamoto said Takahashi of SPD is in charge of what goes on Metroid and Metroid Prime
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>>337302331
>Takahashi: I like them both. They both have a different style of appeal
wow, he's more of a real Metroid fan than Metroid fans in /v/.
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>>337299820
>Daily reminder that the "Other M was bad" memes were pushed by feminists
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>>337300963
>you've seem to missed the Samus is trans mini-controversy

you mean the bullshit Wu made up?
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>>337291990
is that the Other M Galactic Federation emblem?
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>>337302713
the Wu shit came moments after the Samus trans stuff
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>>337302331
Are you mentally retarded or just stupid

Tanabe: "I'm the producer of the Metroid Prime series, and [Metroid series co-creator] Yoshio Sakamoto is the one in charge of Metroid itself. I'm not sure when he's planning on making such an announcement so I can't speak for him."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-next-proper-metroid-prime-would-likely-now-be-on-nx

Tanabe: "I said this at the beginning, but I’m not involved in the 2D Metroid games that Mr. Sakamoto works on."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/17/e3-2015-what-metroid-primes-producer-wants-in-the-next-sequel

Metroid fans really need to stop trying to rewrite history with their warp imaginations.
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>>337303028
>the Wu shit came moments after the Samus trans stuff

she is the one that started it by posting a half assed article on a site wikipedia uses and then tries to use that as an excuse to vandalize wikipedia
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>>337302874
>is that the Other M Galactic Federation emblem?
Yes
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>>337303028
Thank I'm tired of that faggot posting that shit up, I going to save your picture and use it every time that troll post up that image of the dev making the tran joke.
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>>337291738
>Will we ever see another Metroid

Yes, just not from Nintendo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujm3ZQWjdk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szmlHkugA-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_n8IyHE3og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGsrGmIWxV0
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>>337303028
Wu edited the Wiki with a reference to her own opinion piece as fact and then used the edited Wiki to try to back up her bullshit.

See circular reasoning
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>>337303039
this is from the orignal kotaku interview, link included.

who are your going to believe? Tanabe, who mistaken himself saying Prime took place between M2 and Super or Miyamoto, who use to be in control on the development of Metroid Prime?
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>>337303028
you know I've never seen any images of Samus buttfucking these characters. where are them?
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>>337303598
At least the wiki mods saw through her bullshit and didn't bitch out when she cried GG.

Mods were like "this is normal business for us. "
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>>337291738
>le other m is bad maymay

Can we all agree Haloidfaggots are the worst, most childish, whiniest fanbase on this board.
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>>337303758
there's an image of Zero Suit Samus scissoring Trace, snipeshoting Noxus during ejaculation process
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>>337303650
What are you talking about?
Takahashi is the head of EPD, he everything that is going on there. Sakamoto is in charge of 2D Metroid and the Metroid series. Tanabe is in charge of the Metroid Prime series. Miyamoto on had a hand in Metroid Prime 1 & 2 and wasn't involved with the rest of the series so he no longer has a say in Metroid Prime like back in 2002 - 2004. Please get your facts together before making another post man, seriously.
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>>337291990
DELETE THIS
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>>337303881
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/337193774/#q337199237
rehashing your shitposts again
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I'm glad priemfags are constantly disrespected by nintendo, Prime was a mistake and should have never existed.
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>>337303881
>>le other m is bad maymay

it's not a meme. It's the lowest rated Metroid on Metacritic

IT'S RATED LOWER THAN PINBALL FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>337303928
really? I need to find it.
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>>337304075
>I'm glad priemfags are constantly disrespected by nintendo
where?
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>>337304075
and then Other M came along and ruined the series
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>>337304173
>metacritic
>relevant

try again kid, any retard neckbeard from /v/ can bloat the ratings.
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>>337297042

>The NOT metroid argument
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Post tube comics you fucking faggots
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>>337304182
it's not that NSFW

here you go
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>>337304173
>IT'S RATED LOWER THAN PINBALL FOR FUCKS SAKE
Pinball is actually pretty damn good... and I don't even like pinball.
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>>337304294
I am talking critic ratings

Prime 1 - 97
Prime 2 - 92
Fusion - 92
Prime Trilogy - 91
Prime 3 - 90
Zero Mission - 89
Prime Hunters - 85
Pinball - 79
Other M - 79

okay, I stand corrected. It's as bad as Pinball
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>>337293401
Miyamoto said he wasn't happy with the "results" of either F-Zero GX or Starfox Assault
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>>337304294
>>metacritic
>>relevant
buttmad SF Zerofag detected
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>>337304619
oh, alright then.
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>>337304618
tubememe posters are worse than primeshitters vs supershitters.

tubes is not even videogames.
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>>337304294
>SFZ is good guys! who cares about the MC ratings!
the damage control is real
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>>337304503
Prime Hunters, Corruption and Federation Force are a clear departure from Metroid's isolation and exploration on ONE alien planet so they in turn like Other M are NOT Metroid.

Prime 1 & 2 had it perfect. Samus goes to an alien world going to different environments alone without all these other characters getting involved along with travelling to different planets. They also heavily dealt with exploration and isolation. Prime Hunters, 3 , and FF decided that story and combat was more important and put those in the forefront.
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>>337304779
>not liking tubes
>a /v/-made Metroid culture is not vidya
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>>337303881
But anon, Other M is feces. I played it, I 100%'d it.

It had moments where Other M looked like it could be an okay game, but then the game dumped a huge steaming pile all over those moments. The gameplay is mindlessly boring, the missile issue is garbage, the writing is some of the worst in video games, there's 0 exploration, the power-up system is the worst EVER in a Metroid title, the voice acting is abysmal, the music is meh-tier, and the Stoic Perfect Samurai Malkovich stole the promising kick-ass final area full of maybe-freeze-proof Metroids from the player.

Hell, the game couldn't even keep Samus' height consistent in cut scenes - the game says she's 5'1", but cut-scenes has her taller than characters that the game says are several inches taller than she is. The suit does NOT add that much height.

Don't make me drag out that 20+ page diatribe as to why Other M sucks, m8-E
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i just really REALLY love the no true scotsman meme that infest in Metroid threads
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>It's another Metroid fans get easily baited episode
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>>337305234
culture shit is not vidya and never was.
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>>337304967

>Metroid has a rule for exploring 1 planet
>It's a horrible transgression that they attempted to try something new and let you explore 4 planets with different stories.
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>>337305335
>the game says she's 5'1"

Where?
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>>337304294
>autistic Star Fox purefag spreading his autism in Metroid thread
>thinking Zero is any good
the user score and sales are even showing it's true color
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>>337305553
>stories
This is the problem with the entire right now. Metroid and Metroid Prime needs to go back to their roots and focus on exploration and isolation on ONE planet.
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>>337305696
not even 64 fans enjoy Zero's gameplay
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>>337305696
>this started with SFZ

Primefags confirmed for less than subhuman intelligence.
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>>337305782

>Stories
>There's your problem right there
>Clearly talking about scan log stories that were such an aspiring feature in the prime series.
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>>337303482
I'm still fucking waiting for Ghost Song. Fucking when?
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>>337305998
Oh I didn't Prime 1 & 2 and multiple cutscenes with characters having constant dialog with one another and Samus constantly hopping from planet to planet in her gunship. I wasn't talking about lore, that's not every Prime after 2's problem it's what I said above that is every Prime after 2's problem.
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>>337305839
but anon, i enjoy every Metroid but Other M and FF.

same for Star Fox aside Command and Zero.

you keep pushing your primefag meme, but it's not going to convince anyone that Metacritic is horseshit.
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>>337305839
alright show me where people in /v/ said MC doesn't matter before SFZ

here, you can lurk in this archive to dig up the proof
https://foolz.fireden.net/v/
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>>337305839
>WAAAAH ZERO IS GOOD GUYS STOP BELIEVE THE USER AND MC REVIEWS
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>>337306324

Corruption didn't have constant dialog, it had segments where the AI wouldn't shut up but this was no different than the flaws in Fusion with it's AI.

It was annoying, but not enough to hate a game.
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>>337305542
it's not a rule

checkm8 athiests
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>>337306324
>multiple cutscenes with characters having constant dialog with one another

Not remotely true for Prime 3. The intro had some setup cutscenes and then everyone buggered off to let Samus do her thing. Thereafter the only cutscenes were boss introductions and a small bit on the Pirate Homeworld.

>Samus constantly hopping from planet to planet in her gunship

This isn't a problem.
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infographs and caps from interviews are the only things that could save Metroid discussion from going shit by the retarded "muh haloid!" shitposter.
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>>337307182
Didn't Retro say they were working on something like a year and a half ago?
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>>337304663

Don't listen to this list, Metroid II is awesome.
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>>337306683
>no different than the flaws in Fusion with it's AI
Was Samus isolated the entire game along with stayed on the station?

>>337306865
Whether you like it or not the character dialog, no isolation, planet hopping, berserk mode makes Prime 3 the worst Prime game in the Prime Trilogy by a long long shot.
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>>337307182
>it's one person because I got mad

proof or GTFO conspiracy faggot.
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It was decent, cmon guys
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>>337307312
they are working on a new project

it's not Metroid or DK though

NO, i did not get this from Emily Rogers, they've said this 2 years ago after TF.
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>>337307342
Metroid and Metroid II are awesome. I love both.
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>>337307437
see >>337304050
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>>337304663
This list has so many errors it's not funny

>optional
>metroid II

I hate you xbox generation shitposters so much.
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>>337307452

Shooting was fun.

Movement was kinda slow.

Dodging was way too simplistic and should be revamped completely if that style of play is ever tried again and it should
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>>337307437
>asking proof to indicate himself
oh hey it's ACfag sockpuppeting as another shitposter again
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>>337304663
Metroid and Metroid II shouldn't be optional at all. Zero Mission should be optional because it's a remake. Prime 3 should be optional because it's the weakest Prime game in the trilogy.
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>>337307452
reminder that this is Miyamoto's concept of his next 3D Metroid project
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>>337307923

Could be fun to return to more acrobatic syle Metroid, but man I'll miss the scanning.
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>>337307452
This is how I'd imagine Kid Icarus working on a home console
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>>337307923
I don't even know if this is still relevant anymore after E3 2014.
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>>337308026
>tfw FF is the first Prime game with no scanning
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Scanning for fanfic lore was one of the worst things about Prime, it's actually more annoying and worse written than even Other M's bad writing.
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>>337308264
can't be fanfiction if it's official

unless you want actual fanfiction, you should check out REMODELING: The h-doujinshi.
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>>337307367
Why is isolation so important? Super and Fusion created a horror element in homage to the film series that inspired it. This is an arguably enjoyable concept in such a series, but to say that it HAS to occur to be enjoyable is completely retarded.

Why does Samus always have to be "100% isolated" for every single game?. Why does the gunship have to break down every single game?

Retro asked these questions and gave us a game where her ship didn't break down and the mission (an actual mission, not replying to a distress signal) spanded an entire solar system rather than simply one planet.

Is it the idea that "she could get help" at any moment? She couldn't the federation has their hands completely tied. is it because "She could now run!", why would she abandon her comrades? With the leviathans there was no running.

None of your arguements make corruption the worst in the series. The only flaws it had, were again the AI bickering and being slightly more linear than prior games.

But it didn't lack the atrocious key hunt in echoes nor did it feel nearly as incomplete as echoes did.
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>>337308657

>Didn't lack

Didn't have*
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>>337303028
>even the sjws laughed at Wu
Good times.
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>>337303225
>Other M's Adam will reappear in Metroid Prime somebody
honestly wished Metroid Prime was it's own canon than bottom-feeding what Sakamoto shits out.

what's so important in the mainline anyways? the Metroids are dead, fugi-Samus and Evil Feds don't sound anything cool.
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>>337308657
Isolation is important because it gives you that feeling that you're alone. You are the only one on this planet fighting these aliens, and you are the only one who can stop it. Having other characters tag along with Samus hurts this balance.
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>>337309224
>samus and metaknight got remodeled once in their lifetime
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>>337309258
>somebody
*someday
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>>337309224
X-PARASITES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>337309258
We still don't know anything about "peak" Chozo so that is a great story to tell. What if the next planet Samus visit is a ancient Chozo planet that has the Chozo's most advanced weapons beyond the ones Samus received in Metroids 1 - 4 mixed in with Samus finding out about a godlike species who were beyond the Chozo and all other species in the universe.
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>>337309329

Except Samus for the most part is alone in her mission. After the assault of Norion. All the other Mercs hired with her are corrupt and she is sent in to investigate.

The brain spouts locations but isn't qualified to just send her soldier aid except for the assault on the pirate home world, which is what her mission prerogative was on that planet anyway.
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>>337308264
The great thing about scanning was that it was optional. Don't like it? Then don't do it.
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>>337310413
or just play FF

game has zero to none scanning involved
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>>337309258
Prime is it's own canon the retconned one
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>>337309329
>>337308657
>>337307367
>>337306865
>>337306324
>>337305998
>>337305782
>>337305553
>>337304967
>>337306683
>>337309775
you know, Metroid gotta expand on than relying on old shit all the time.

not that if it will get stale like SFZ, but to the point it can't be done over and over again in it's current state.

Nintendo probably wanna add multiplayer or let a rogue fed have a chance to shine in the next 2D Metroid

also, it's almost 9th gen, Shantae, Mario, FE, Wario Land, topdown Zelda, Megaman X already moved on beyond traditional sprites.

the dread project may as well be done into 2.5D
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>>337310638
>retconned
where?
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>>337309258
I agree, I don't really care about a Metroid 5. Or the continuing story or anything. Evil feds is stupid, I didn't care about Fusion's story at all, and they keep having to come up with contrived reasons for there to still be Metroids around after Samus killed them all. It got silly.

Also for the love of god, I never want to see a ridiculous vague science vessel setting every again. It's a stupid and lazy way to have different biomes next to each other and the artificiality is just an excuse for laziness in the most important of Metroid, which is the world you explore.
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>>337310638
i wished it was tho
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>>337310727

My theory for this autism over specific themeing an aversion to new mechanics is just a result of starvation.

There hasn't been a metroid game in such a long time that people just want super or prime with only slightly different upgrades, a different map and a slightly different story that maintains the same exact theme.

They aren't ready to explore new ideas like being able to move from planet to planet, bounty hunting and a completely different style of upgrades from the normal (Like the ice missiles in corruption).
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>>337310638
The retconned canon is the one where the Metroid Manga doesn't exist.
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>>337311116
is the Metroid manga even canon?
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>>337311079
>Like the ice missiles in corruption
What's wrong with Ice Missiles, that's been a thing since Metroid: Fusion.
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>>337291738
It's not that we won't ever see another Metroid game but it's very unlikely that we will ever get a game on the level of Super Metroid or Prime ever again.
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>>337311268
Why Sakamoto supervised it, since he barely had anything to do with it and every mainline and Prime game contradict it I say no. Only the first two chapters are canon really, but even those chapters have their issues when you look up the story of Metroid and Samus's story from the games.
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>>337311482
>Why
I meant While.
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>>337311408
i really need to know who was the level designer(s) of Super Metroid and Metroid 1/2

fuck nakada
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>>337311408
Not the OP, but I accepted that; I'm fine with a Metroid game that is a step above Fusion.
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>>337311275

Because they didn't like mitigation of the ice beam mechanic to the missiles, due to hating how they reverted back to a more classic metroid model of the beams stacking in effects rather than being 4 swappable weapons like in prior prime games.
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>>337311580
>fuck nakada

Wario Land 4 has some of the best level design in videogame history
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>>337291738
Is it possible to get over how shitty Other M was? Every now and then something will remind me how much I hate this game. The other day I thought of the Deleter subplot and I was upset for quite a while that Other M exists. It's been years.
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Sadly, no
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>>337313325
WHY DOES IT EXIST? IT GOES NOWHERE! THERE'S NO RESOLUTION AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE OVERALL PLOT IN ANY WAY
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>>337313325
It will end when Nintendo finally decides to Make Metriod: Dread. If a proper sequel to Fusion is not made I'm afraid the hate will continue.
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>>337313542
Right? Every minute aspect of the story (or hell, the entire game) is this unbelievable awfulness and I do not understand how so many people could come together and create something so terrible. Like you read those Iwata Asks with the Team Ninja developers and how they're questioning Sakamoto at every retarded decision, but against their better judgement they keep going along with him. Why? Why did they let this happen?

>>337313710
I don't really want to see a sequel to Fusion because it will have the same elements as Other M. I think it'd take a concentrated effort to actively ignore every minor detail of Other M in the series going forward.
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If Other M had normal controls and not pointy pointy waggly shit, it would be okay.
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>>337314238
Because he's in charge of the Metroid series and could cancel the game at anytime, plus this was Team Ninja's first Metroid game, Sakamoto had to make sure they didn't screw it up. The issue though was that he decided to micromanage the team and fucked the game up himself.
Sakamoto stated himself that him and his team was only good at making 2D Metroid game where he is far more restricted and can't pour all of his vision down our throats so if anything he needs to stick with 2D and leave the 3D to Tanabe.
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>>337314531
Team Ninja suggested Nunchuck controls but Sakamoto kept saying no

only reason Other M is remote-only because muh nostalgia.
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>>337314531
It wouldn't though, it'd still be relentlessly linear with retarded locking doors through boring environments, there'd be no exploration, music would be bland and totally forgettable, game would still be ugly, combat would still be brokenly easy, and you'd still be sitting through a god-awful story.
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>>337292935
Oh fuck, I've been triggered. Fucking seriously, I spent a good 15 minutes once just looking for some small bullshit in this damn game
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I wonder what Sakamoto and his team at EPD are doing now that they released Miitomo. Seeing as how the next mobile game is not made by him and his team since it's Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem. Since I do remember Nintendo stated that all EPD teams from Mario to Zelda to Metroid and the rest would make games for both the NX and mobile.
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>>337300963
Any fan of the series would know this was either a joke or a take on Samus being half-Chozo. Leave it to uniformed agenda pushing trannies to think its all about them.
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>>337313325
If you think about the "Adam shoots Samus in the back" scene you'll be set for life.

I mean, Adam shoots and incapacitates Samus because he's convinced that the Metroid in front of her is immune to ice, then TRIES TO KILL IT WITH ICE.
Think about it. He shoots her in the back because he wants to stop her from trying to go to Sector Zero, because he's completely convinced (without a single piece of evidence, and this is something he flat out admits) that those Metroids are immune to ice and therefore unkillable - AND THEN TRIES TO KILL ONE WITH ICE.

People get upset by the SEXISM, but even if you set that aside this is still one of the stupidest, most nonsensical pieces of fiction ever written. This is just writing a scene after another, and not thinking how it all contradicts itself.
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>>337315421
I don't really want to go to sleep angry, but you're right. Although I think it's worse than that, because it's not even like it's different scenes contradicting one another. It's one scene and nothing about it makes any sense at all and it contradicts itself in the scene several times. It's such an unbelievable pile of shit. I can't believe they got people to say the lines in a recording booth. Although they all sound bored to death so maybe they just stopped caring at that point.
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>>337307890
ZM has the entire original Metroid on the cartridge. They're basically saying "why play just Metroid when you can play the remake and original bundled together?"
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>>337313542

>Why does it exist

Sakamoto has no subtly. While metroid has always been inspired by Alien, Sakamoto couldn't help but shove as many blatant alien references in Other M as possible, including plenty of references to Alien 4 like in fusion.

This means inserting a character that's a plant for Weyland-Yuta- I mean the Gfed to cover up the corruption as it's discovered.
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>>337315693
When I said "scene" I meant the individual parts of that cutscene.
Like

>Samus follows the Deleter in a room
>there's a Baby Metroid in the room!
>the Deleter shoots Samus in the back!
>the Baby Metroid is about to attack her, but... the Deleter kills the Metroid saving her?!?
>The Deleter is ADAM?!?!?!
>He wasn't actually the Deleter, he shot her in the back to save her!
And so on.
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>>337315693

>Although they all sound bored to death
Didn't Sakamoto direct Samus' English voice actor?

Despite not knowing English?
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>>337300087
Some of those images look pretty good actually. I might just search for and save some of them.
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>years of listening to /v/ harp on this game for being shit
>find a copy for five dollars
>play it
>okay this starts off kind of slow
>pixel hunts are annoying
>get through rest of the game
>it's actually fairly decent
>/v/ is wrong yet again about something

I'm really convinced it's a small vocal minority here that samefags the hell out of these threads.

The Queen fight was great and so was Phantoon. Nightmare was a cool fight as well.
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>>337317197
hi Moviebob
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>>337317197
>small vocal minority
kek
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>>337317197

Nobody hates it for the sub-par gameplay, they just don't consider the few mildly entertaining fights to be redeeming in the least.

Also the queen fight was horrible, the only good fight was with the Rhedogian
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>>337317197
LMAOOOOOOOOO

They fucking RUINED Nightmare. How could you think that fight was good at all?

And the Queen? That was trash too. They give you like ten seconds to figure out you have to use an ability that has been "unauthorized" the whole game, and only mentioned ONCE during the tutorial
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>>337317197
>it's the just /v/ meme again
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>>337317197
/v/ was also wrong about RE5, RE6, FFX, FFXII, FFXIII, FFXIII-2, LRFFXIII, 3rd Birthday, Mario Galaxy 2, and Zelda Twilight Princess among many other games.

/v/ really has the most ass backwards shortbus opinions on everything.
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>>337317197
>>337318005
>so BTFO he's samefagging
time to check here m8 >>337317775
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>>337317197

I mean, I guess some of the fights were fun the first time. If you could skip cutscenes, it might have been worthwhile as a $5 action game.
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>>337318295
even DMC2's decent compared to Other M
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>>337318295
>it might have been worthwhile as a $5 action game.
hell no

pic related, the worse 3D DBZ fighter, is actually worth $5 buck to mess around with your buds

i'd make a site destroying Other M copies like the Shaq-Fu one than selling it for 25 cents
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>>337318656
that reminds me, I've destroyed about 43 shitty Haloid copies, I should start up again.
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>>337319029
post pics
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>>337319087
he obviously doesn't have any
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>>337319029
>Haloid copies
>copies

Did I miss something or are you not referring to the Monty Oum animation?
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>>337320020
are you seriously taking the bait and not stopping his tracks?

chirst, gonna go to sleep.
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>>337320156
I have no idea what's going on and am asking for more information.

Call me retarded or whatever, I just want to know what he's talking about.
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I'm still not sure how to get into Metroid II, when I played it as a kid I basically just got lost and just Spider Balled everywhere, and when I played it a year or two back the screen length drove me mad on top of being even more lost than I remembered being when I was younger. I know areas are locked off until you kill X amount of Metroids but being so used to actually being able to see more than a foot ahead of me, a small map, and there not being a secret around literally every wall so you have to spider ball into it just wasn't for me.

AM2R in comparison felt like it handled like an even faster Zero Mission and that also drove me nuts. Zero Mission was just the right speed but AM2R was just like everything I did had me moving at Speed Booster speed.
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>>337291738
They made a shitload of them after they killed the series with Prime.
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>>337321595

Fuck off purist.

2D and Prime are both great takes on Metroid.
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>>337321760
>linear piece of shit that basically plays itself minus the scanning that interrupts the shitty gameplay segments is the same as a game meant to be played as quickly as possible and in any way the player can think of with sequence breaking
Prime is a piece of shit and anybody who thinks otherwise hates the series.
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>>337321893

>linear
With the very first word you outed yourself as somebody who has no idea what they're talking about.
Prime 1 has a shitton of easy sequence breaks. Now Prime 2 makes it harder and Prime 3 has near to none, but we're both in agreement that Prime 3 isn't very good so it doesn't matter.
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>>337322060
>Prime 1 has a shitton of easy sequence breaks.
That were through glitches that were removed in the definitive wii version. A bunch of game breaking glitches makes for a shitty game, not a proper sequel.
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>>337322156

>That were through glitches that were removed in the definitive wii version.
Then it's not the definitive version is it, pleb? Point remains that classic Prime 1 is rife with opportunities to sequence break for players of all skill levels.
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>>337322156
And Super's sequence breaks aren't glitches and exploits?
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>>337321893
>Anyone who disagrees hates this series.
Sounds just like
>Anyone who likes ZSS loves Other M.

You've swapped directions, but your tactics remain the same, ACfag.
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>>337322241
>a bunch of unintended glitches makes for a good game
Only on /v/ can somebody be this fucking stupid. Not even getting into the awful gameplay, Prime is not a Metroid game. It is a pile of shit in the same vein as DmC. A good series shit out to a western developer and raped.
>>337322315
Some are, most are not. Is wall jumping up past the bugs to get super bomb before super missle a glitch?
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>>337322315

Clearly Torizo Skip, Early Super Missile, Early Ice Beam, Early Wrecked Ship with continuous long jump etc. don't count as sequence breaks because they are glitches.
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>>337321893
Hypocrites like you are the worst part of any fanbase. "Everything I say is right, and if you disagree you're not a real fan." You literally hate a big portion of Metroid yet say other people hate the series for liking it? Definition of cognitive dissonance.
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>>337322380

Yeah it can actually. If you're complaining about an updated version of the game having fewer glitches, then clearly having the glitches made the initial release of Metroid Prime better.
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>>337317775
>Other M scored higher than Star Fox Zero
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>337322060
>Prime 3 isn't very good so it doesn't matter
Thank you, someone that finally gets it. Prime 3 was the shittiest Prime in the trilogy. It and Hunters lead to Federation Force and Prime 4 will suck because Tanabe never understood Metroid.

>>337322156
No, Tanabe's shitty decisions to remove something that has been part of Metroid from the beginning does not make for a broken game. Every decision Tanabe made with the Prime series has been shit. It was only a matter before his cancer would effect the core gameplay of the Prime series with it.
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>>337322432
By your retarded logic, people who dislike Fallout 3 and Oblivion are now cancer. The same could be said for Sonic. A bunch of shitty games getting shitty sequels does not mean the originals are not the true essence of the series.
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>>337322380

>Some are, most are not. Is wall jumping up past the bugs to get super bomb before super missle a glitch?
But some of the coolest and most important breaks are.
>>337322423
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>>337322531
Are you seriously going to sit here and argue turning the series into an FPS didn't change the "core gameplay?"
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I feel like the people worrying about there never being anymore Metroid are worrying about the wrong things.

We're going to get more Metroid, I have no doubts about that. The problem is that, with the way Nintendo is, I doubt it will ever be the Metroid we actually liked.

Also you fucks need to stop responding to the obvious "Prime is shit" bait, that stuff got stale years ago.
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>>337310821
BTFO
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>>337322610
Metroid Prime 1 & 2 had differences from the 2D games but they kept the exploration, isolation, and somewhat of the sequence breaks until Tanabe put his two senses in. The rest of the Prime games are shit though.
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>>337322610

When people talk about the core gameplay of a Metroidvania they're not talking about the moment to moment gameplay, they're talking about a structure.

The exploration, level design, powerup system etc. are all very true to the theme of charting and overcoming a hostile alien environment.
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>>337322785
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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>>337322785
>when people talk about the core gameplay, they don't actually mean anything about how the game plays
Then maybe they should use a proper term instead of being a retard. Prime plays nothing like a Metroid game and it's the biggest reason the game is garbage. The level design and horrible scanning segment bullshit don't help, but the core gameplay is fucking awful. For fuck's sake, modern FPSes have more complex controls and more intuitive controls.
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>>337320678
Sucks for you

AM2R controls like a dream to me
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>>337322610
The only Metroid game that can really be argued to be an FPS in a traditional sense of Prime Hunters, and quite possibly Federation Force.

Prime 1-3 sure as fuck weren't Halo, despite people seemingly connecting the two. Even Hunters was more of an arena shooter.
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>>337323001
>even game consisting of shooting in firstd person outside of minigame-style segements
>not an FPS
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>>337322423
Nah, those are exploits, but it's still something that wasn't intended by the developers in both cases. Whether it's a glitch or an exploit, in both Super and Prime you're taking advantage of developer oversights to do things out of order.

Really, though, I'm not sure why you'd call game a game nonlinear when all of the options to progress differently are completely accidental.
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>>337322940
>Prime plays nothing like a Metroid game

You explore an untamed world finding secrets and growing more powerful through abilities that eventually come to let you dominate that were previously difficult or impossible to overcome.

No, it's not a side-scrolling shooter anymore, but that's not what made Metroid interesting. It's not Mega Man.
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>>337323109
>in a traditional sense

Reading comprehensions?

Go play Metroid Prime and then go play Halo. Or Quake. Or Doom. Or anything that fits the FPS genre.

It's very much its own experience.
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>>337322940

It's a good thing the game doesn't focus on twitchy FPS gameplay then. Because you're right, if Metroid were designed like Halo and the point was simply to shoot aliens, the control would be inadequate.

At the same time, games like Super Metroid have poor controls if you're expecting a pure platformer. The gravity is much too floaty, combat isn't very interesting and the button mapping isn't as good as later 2D entries.

The game still works because it's about more than just linear platforming, it's about mastering the complexities to break the game's initially rigid design.

It isn't the point of the game and by focusing on the switch from platformer to FPS you're missing the bigger picture.
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>>337323126

It may not have been done by design, but it's still easy to do and improves the game significantly.
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>>337323295
Metroid Prime is designed to simply walk forward and shoot aliens. The game is incredibly linear with a shitty gimmick in each room that blocks you moving forward into the next room to do the same thing. And the worst part is the gun play is horrible. So what's the fucking point? To see a lifeless world with nothing in it? To find every shitty scan point that tells a story even Primefags hate?
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>>337323381
>skipping most of the game improves it significantly
At least we can agree on this.
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>>337323282
>>337323001
I really don't get why anyone would care so much about the integrity of a videogame that they would feel the need to push these semantic arguments about genres simply to try and distance it from other games in the genre. I love Prime but it's not like it's so special you have to pretend it transcends genres when it's pretty clear what it is.

It's an FPS. Just because it's different from other games in the genre doesn't mean it isn't one. Crash Bandicoot is nothing like Banjo Kazooie but they're both 3D platformers. A single genre can have variety in it.
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>>337323475
>Metroid Prime is designed to simply walk forward and shoot aliens.
That's Other M, famalam
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>>337323551
Other M is shit but that's not what we're discussing right now.
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>>337323526
>in a traditional sense

Please, stop ignoring that I wrote this.

Yes, Prime is a series where you shoot things in first person, no one's denying that, but if you go in expecting CoD, you're going to be disappointed.

It's its own little niche not many games in a very saturated market attempted to ape.
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>>337323475

>Metroid Prime is designed to simply walk forward and shoot aliens.
Look at a single level map from the game
and say that with a straight face.
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>>337323520

Have you ever played Deus Ex, anon?
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